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A
Oh
call
to
order
the
April
17th
meeting
of
the
Tarpon
Springs
Planning
and
Zoning
Board,
and
our
first
item
of
business
is
if
Mr
Vesey
would
lead
us
in
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
and
an
invocation.
C
B
B
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
attending
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
planning
and
zoning
board
meeting
the
purpose
of
the
planning
and
zoning
boards
to
conduct
public
hearings
on
the
items
that
come
before
us.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
has
reviewed
the
evidence
in
the
agenda
packet
for
each
item
on
the
agenda
and
including
the
application
materials
and
the
staff
report.
The
board
will
consider
that
evidence
along
with
any
new
evidence
or
testimony
provided
at
the
hearing
tonight.
A
The
board
will
consider
all
the
information
provided
at
this
hearing
in
accordance
with
the
quasi-judicial
procedures,
by
which
the
board
is
bound.
I'll
ask
the
City
attorney
to
explain
these
quasi-judicial
procedures
at
the
appropriate
time.
This
board
uses
these
procedures
to
judge
whether
the
application
meets
the
intent
of
the
city's
adopted,
comprehensive
plan,
future
land
use,
map
and
weather.
The
application
conforms
to
the
city
currently
adopted
Land
Development
code
and
Zoning
Atlas.
A
The
general
hearing
procedure
for
each
item
called
by
the
chair
is
as
follows:
staff
presentation,
applicant
presentation,
affected
party
presentation,
public
input,
staff
and
applicant
rebuttal
and
finally
board
motion
discussion
and
vote
I
called
the
meeting
to
order
and
can
I
have
a
roll
call.
Please
Mr.
E
A
C
A
All
right
that
brings
us
to
changes
in
the
agenda.
We
do
have
one
change
tonight:
application
22-143,
ordinance,
202306
related
to
rezoning
of
property
on
North
Highland
Avenue,
approximately
1200
feet,
Northeast
of
the
intersection
of
North,
Island,
Avenue
and
Keystone
road
is
diver
deferred
to
a
date
that
will
be
re-advertised
with
that.
Can
we
have
the
quasi-judicial
announcement
and
the
swearing
of
speakers.
F
The
matters
that
are
quasi-judicial
before
these.
These
matters
are
quasi-judicial
before
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Planning
and
Zoning
Board,
and
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding.
The
board's
function
is
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
This
is
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
the
board.
F
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
arising
from
the
application
and
the
applicable
code
sections
any
and
all
persons
providing
testimony
at
this
hearing
are
required
to
do
so
under
oath.
All
persons
testifying
at
this
hearing
must
give
their
name
address
and
must
indicate
whether
or
not
they
have
been
sworn
for
the
record
prior
to
proceeding
with
their
testimony.
F
All
testimony
and
questioning
at
this
hearing
must
address
matters
that
are
relevant
and
material
to
the
issues
under
consideration,
based
on
the
criteria
established
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
If
any
board
member
has
disclosures
regarding
an
application,
please
make
your
disclosures
on
the
record
at
the
beginning
of
the
hearing.
This
would
include
ex
parte
Communications
and
voting
conflicts
of
interest
if
there
is
not
a
full
board
present.
F
F
The
following
is
the
established
procedure
which
will
be
followed
at
this
quasi-judicial
hearing.
First
city
staff
will
present
its
testimony
and
evidence
regarding
the
application,
and
then
the
applicant
will
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
cross-examine
the
staff
in
any
City
Witnesses.
The
applicant
will
then
have
the
opportunity
to
present
its
Witnesses
and
evidence,
and
the
city
will
have
the
opportunity
to
cross-examine
the
applicant
and
any
of
the
applicants.
Witnesses
then,
members
of
the
public,
opposing
or
in
support
of
the
application
will
be
given
the
chance
to
present
their
testimony
and
evidence.
F
The
applicant
and
the
city
may
present
any
rebuttal,
testimony
and
evidence
and
a
closing
statement.
For
summary,
then
the
board
will
close
the
public
hearing
for
discussion
and
consideration
of
the
application
at
this
time.
Anyone
who
desires
to
speak
on
any
of
these
matters,
if
you
would
please
stand
and
receive
the
oath.
F
G
A
G
This
is
a
request
for
approval
of
ordinance,
2023-04
for
rezoning
of
city
property
located
on
Dixie
Highway,
just
east
of
Alt
19.,
it's
a
little
over
an
acre
in
size,
and
it
is
a
built
property
with
public
services.
City
Public,
Services
utilities
facilities
on
it,
including
a
workshop
offices,
storage,
lift
station
injection.
Well,
this
is
in
the
future
land
use
residential
medium
category
and
in
and
the
proposed
future
land
use
as
Transportation
utility.
G
G
The
zoning
is
currently
residential
multi-family.
Our
digital
and
paper
zoning
map
show
it
as
residential
plan
development
staff.
Did
some
research
and
found
that
that
is
has
been
determined
to
be
a
mapping
error.
We
found
the
ordinances
that
Annex
the
property
into
the
city.
Those
are
in
your
packet,
85,
29
and
85
39
show
that
it
was
annexed
with
a
zoning
of
residential
multi-family.
G
G
We
did
check
the
Nature's
preserve
plant
and
approval,
and
it
did
not
include
this
property,
so
the
proposed
zoning
is
public,
semi-public
and
the
city
is
requesting
this
rezoning
and
the
future
land
use
map
amendment
that
you
already
heard
to
align
the
current
and
really
long-term
future
uses
of
this
property.
With
the
appropriate
categories.
G
This
just
gives
a
context
of
the
property,
the
surrounding
area.
There's
a
lot
of
wetlands
to
the
east,
Northeast
and
Southeast
across
the
street
is
the
Leslie
Hale
complex
Church
there
there's
some
residential
some
platted
and
some
meets
and
Bounds
older
Lots
in
that
area
to
the
Northwest
there's
some
vacant
land
and
Industrial
just
to
the
South
here
in
Alt
19,
there's
kind
of
a
mix
along
that
Corridor-
and
this
is
just
an
oblique
aerial
of
the
site
itself,
the
developed
site
and
the
wetlands
surrounding
it
and
then
across
the
intersection.
G
G
So
those
are
some
of
the
city
zonings,
which
are
shaded
and
then
the
county
zonings
are
on
the
aerial,
I'm,
sorry
future
land
use.
This
is
the
same
thing
with
the
zonings
showing
some
of
the
County
zoning
zonings
on
the
aerial
photography
and
then
the
city
zonings
in
the
Shaded
area.
So
the
subject
property
is
RN
and
then
you've
got
the
surrounding
area
with
several
zonings
on
it.
C
G
So
your
rezoning
criteria,
you've
got
four
criteria.
I
will
say
suggest
that
you
take
a
look
at
the
staff
report
for
a
little
bit
more
history
on
the
property
under
planning.
Considerations
gives
a
little
bit
more
information
on
the
property.
G
The
proposed
public
semi-public
zoning
category
is
consistent
with
the
transportation
utility
future
land
use
map
category
that's
been
recommended
for
this
property
and
you
did
a
full
analysis
of
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
With
that
review,
I
included
the
numbers
in
the
staff
report.
I
do
have
them
if,
if
you
have
any
questions
about
those,
but
that
review
was
done
in
January
and
we
feel
that
the
existing
uses
of
the
property
are
appropriate
for
this
property
and
compatible
with
the
area.
This
the
property
is
really
sized
for.
C
G
G
So
we
feel
criteria
two
is
met
and
that
criteria
3
is
met
providing
for
efficient
and
orderly
development.
To
continue
this
use,
let
Public
Services
maintain
and
adapt
this
site
as
needed,
replace
it
if
anything's
destroyed,
and
then
it
is
served
by
City
facilities
right
now,
so
we
do
have
all
the
city
facilities
serving
this
property.
Obviously,
some
of
the
facilities
listed
in
this
criteria.
There
won't
be
a
need
for
those
anymore
because
you
would
be
removing
the
residential
designation
from
the
property.
G
This
was
reviewed
by
the
TRC
on
December,
8th
and
the
Senate,
deemed
it
complete
and
ready
to
go
to
hearing.
So
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
ordinance
202304
to
rezone
the
property
pup
to
public
semi-public.
We
did
provide
public
notice
and
we
had
a
couple
of.
We
had
some
inquiries
and
we
had
two
main
comments.
Some
of
the
folks
over
at
Nature's
preserve,
wanted
to
know
about
the
potential
for
a
wastewater
treatment
plant
in
our
Public
Services
director
did
relay
that.
G
There
are
no
no
plans
for
that
and
it's
not
really
practical
for
that
use,
and
then
there
were
inquiries
about
the
existing
injection.
Well
on
the
property,
the
the
two
comments
are
in
your
packet
staff
did
address
the
injection
wall
question
that
injection
well,
is
in
and
there's
a
memo
in
your
packet
regarding
that
from
Mr
Tommy
hickiger
who's
here
this
evening,
if
you
have
any
questions,
he's
the
assistant
director
of
public
services,
so
he's
here
to
address
any
questions
you
may
have
foreign
and
then
just
to
kind
of
I.
G
Just
added
this
because
remember
now
you
are
separating
future
land
use
map
and
rezoning
hearings.
They
can't
appear
on
the
same
agenda,
so
it
gets
confusing
or
could
be
potentially
confusing
to
the
public
when
niece
or
her
the
future
land
news
map
Amendment,
you
heard
it
in
January.
It
will
go
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
on
May
9th
and
then
this
rezoning
will
go
to
them
on
May
23rd.
Those
are
first
readings.
This
has
to
go
through
a
county-wide
plan
Amendment.
So
then
it
will
go
back
to
them
for
a
second
reading.
A
D
Good
evening
Thomas
Kiger
assistant
director
for
public
services,
we
don't
have
any
just
you
know
really
concrete
plans
for
redeveloping
the
site.
It's
a
master,
lift
station
for
Wastewater
service
for
the
north
half
of
the
city
on
the
north
side
of
the
Anclote
River.
D
At
this
point,
we're
we're
working
on
redoing
our
20-year
Capital
Improvements
plan
there'll,
probably
be
some
minor
repair
and
Rehabilitation
of
that
lift
station
over
time.
But
nothing
really
dramatic
that
we're
planning
currently
for,
like
redeveloping
the
site.
It's
going
to
continue
to
be
a
lift
station
and
it's
also
the
sort
of
base
of
operations
for
our
utilities.
Maintenance
group
so
as
Things
become
older
and
age
out,
we'll
likely
to
continue
to
replace
them.
But
it's
going
to
continue
to
be
a
lift
station.
H
D
That's
not
planned
currently
depending
on
levels
of
growth
and
things
like
that
in
the
future.
On
the
north
side
of
the
river,
it
is
the
master
lift
station
so
potentially
in
the
future,
the
pumps
can
be
upsized
and
things
like
that.
It
has
a
lot
of
capacity
right
now,
but
any
increases
in
capacity
would
probably
not
significantly
impact
what
it
looks
like
or
the
surrounding
areas
or
anything
like
that.
F
Just
briefly,
you
are
entering
the
city's
file
on
this
matter
for
the
board's
consideration
as
evidence
correct.
Yes,
all
right.
Thank
you.
I
I
just
had
one
question,
and
this
is
actually
for
Regina.
Is
this
because
it's
a
city
application
an
instance
where
the
city
is
advised
that
they
can
seek
counsel
of
Their
Own.
F
Yes,
they
can,
when
they
are
presenting
in
this
manner,
because,
as
you
know,
I
represent
you
all
as
a
body
so
to
the
extent
staff
and
these
types
of
presentation
and
presentations
ever
feels
that
they
need
representation
to
bring
this
forward.
They
can
do
that,
but
they
have
not
asked
for
that
additional
representation.
Okay,
thanks.
A
This
is
kind
of
confusing
in
this
case
call
for
applicant
presentation,
but
you
kind
of
already
applicated
in
this
case.
So
so
that's
been
done,
I
guess
so
we
would
go
to
public
comments
at
this
point
or
there
any
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak
either
for
or
against
this
item.
Please
approach
the
microphone
and
state
your
name
and
address
and
and
then
make
your
comments.
J
J
The
address
is
2181
Indian,
Rocks,
Road,
Largo,
Florida,
33774
I
happen
to
be
a
licensed
architect,
also
and
I'm
here,
because
as
a
known
I'm
concerned,
what's
what's
there
and
I
know
how
important
certain
lands
are
to
to
the
city
of
Tarpon
I
actually
about
21
years
ago,
was
in
front
of
this
board
and
got
some
approvals,
but
the
land
happened
to
be
an
entrance
of
Sunset
Beach
Park,
a
couple
acres,
the
city
even
had
to
sign
on
and
I
ended
up
and
just
reading
what
this
is
and
said.
J
You
know:
I'd
be
nice
if
Mr
Spence
would
donate
the
land
inside
is
about
800
000
piece
of
land
down
there
and
2002.
So
that's
why
I'm
here
today,
because
I
feel
this
is
a
very.
This
is
bigger
than
everybody's
thinking.
First
of
all,
it's
so
wrong
how
this
happened.
This
is
called
reverse
engineering.
They
built
a
property,
a
project,
a
property
that
clearly
doesn't
have
the
Zone
in
our
land
use
didn't
have.
J
We
shouldn't
even
be
having
this
discussion
that
should
be
vacant
land
we
should
be
going
in
front
of
them
and
that
City
would
be
asking
for
a
reason
on
and
land
use.
So
they
would
then
be
allowed
to
build
this.
Now.
You
don't
just
build
something
and
then
go
change.
The
land
used
in
in
zoning
to
make
it
fit
what
you
built
when
you
weren't
supposed
to
build
it
in
the
first
place
and
I'm
a
little
disappointed
to
hear.
J
Well,
we
don't
need
any
more
room
on
that
facility
when
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
wanted
to
buy
some
of
ours
to
double
the
size
of
that
facility,
a
matter
of
fact
they
had
already
built
on
it
and
we're
using
it
brought
fill
in
and
it
actually
squared
their
piece
of
property
off,
because
the
piece
they
have
is
a
triangle.
And
if
you
flip
it,
it
made
a
perfect
square
and
that's
what
they
wanted
to
buy,
but
they
didn't
want
to
pay
the
market
price.
J
J
J
J
F
So
this
is
actually
time
for
public
comment
and
if
the
board
wants
her
to
answer,
questions
after.
J
I
I
apologize,
then
I
was
on
Town
Bible
airplanes
on
for
14
years,
it's
been
a
while
I'm
a
little
rusty,
but
I
can
tell
you
I,
don't
think
they're
injecting
oxygen
and
clean
water
from
there
I
think
they're,
injecting
something
that
nobody
would
be
happy
being
ejected,
and
you
know
the
Anclote
and
they
may
have
a
dep
permit,
but
dep
doesn't
check
zoning
and
land
use.
This
should
never
be
built
there
on
their
building.
Permit.
J
It
says
the
land
use
residential.
What
they
want
to
build
commercial
I
mean
that's,
just
nobody
could
go,
get
a
permit
to
build
something
that
doesn't
have
the
proper
land
use
and
zonium
I.
Think
you
know
there's
enough
problems
going
on
in
and
the
public
didn't
have
the
ability
to
be
aware
of
this
building
being
built.
It's
there.
You
can't
simply
change
zoning
and
land
use
because
something's
there
that
shouldn't
be
in
the
city,
it's
large
enough
not
to
increase.
J
That's
just
not
nobody's,
got
a
crystal
ball,
but
they
wouldn't
want
to
double
the
size
if
they
didn't
need
to.
They
wouldn't
have
built
a
new
building
last
year
if
they
didn't
need
to
and
and
I
just
am
I'm
a
little
bit
upset
about
it
and
I
I
think
it's
just
a
really
the
wrong
place
if
anything's
being
injected
there,
and
it
really
should
be
residential.
That's
what
the
acreages
I
have
it's.
It's
butts
up
to
part
of
our
Wetlands
that
we,
our
Uplands,
that
we
can
build
on.
A
J
C
A
All
right,
seeing
none
will
close
the
public
comment.
Would
the
staff
have
any
rebuttal
or
closing
comments.
G
I
can
address
the
the
zoning,
as
you
can
see,
from
your
staff
report,
that
the
current
zoning
does
allow
public
and
semi-public
uses
with
some
acreage
restriction
which
this
is
actually
under
and
having
to
utilize
those
District
standards,
but
it's
really
not
appropriate
for
that.
What
is
meant
to
be
a
restricted
use
in
the
multi-family.
It
needs
to
have
a
public,
semi-public,
designation,
I,
don't
know
exactly
when
this
was
built.
G
I,
don't
know
if
Mr
Geiger
has
that
information,
but
it
is
a
permitted
use
in
that
zoning,
so
you
know
it
wouldn't
it
would
not
have
necessarily
have
to
have
been
rezoned
in
order
to
install
this
facility.
As
for
the
the
other
question,
I
think
that
we
can
answer.
There
were
several
points,
the
injection.
Well,
he
can
probably
help
me
with
that
yeah.
D
Thank
you
again,
Thomas
Kiger
assistant
director
for
public
services
regarding
the
original
dates
of
when
this
property
was
developed
as
a
lift
station.
Our
records
indicate
that
it
dates
to
the
mid-1980s
around
1985
or
so
so
it's
it's
been
a
lift
station
to
our
knowledge.
You
know
for
over
30
years
regarding
the
injection.
Well,
it's
a
fully
permitted
injection.
Well,
the
Florida
Department
of
Environmental
Protection
I
went
through
multiple
rounds
of
public
hearing
and
public
workshops.
D
We
actually
had
a
public
Workshop
here
in
this
building
in
2013
2014
and
again,
we
issued
multiple
notice
of
intents
to
inform
the
public
or
of
the
inform
the
public
of
the
permitting
activities
for
the
injection.
Well,
all
the
way
from
2014
through
2017
as
part
of
building
the
reverse
osmosis
water
treatment
facility.
So
the
purpose
of
the
injection
well,
is
when
you
it
serves
our
reverse
osmosis
water
plant,
which
supplies
water
to
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
and
our
residents.
D
The
way
reverse
osmosis
works
is
you
take
salty
water
and
you
take
you
put
it
through
some
membranes
to
treat
it
and
you
get.
Eighty
percent
of
the
water
comes
out
fresh
and
the
other
20
of
the
water
has
all
the
salt
that
you
started
with.
So
you
end
up
with
a
sort
of
just
salty
saltwater
Brine,
and
you
have
to
do
something
with
that.
So
eighty
percent
of
the
water,
that's
fresh,
goes
to
the
city
to
provide
safe.
You
know
affordable
drinking
water
and
the
other
20
we
have
to
dispose
of
it.
D
So
it's
disposed
of
via
deep,
well
injection
into
a
salty
zone
of
the
upper
Florida
and
aquifer
system,
the
Avon
Park
formation
and
that's
very
standard
practice
for
reverse
osmosis
facilities
up
and
down
the
West
Coast
of
Florida.
K
and
obviously,
since
it's
the
ftep,
they
think
it's
all
right.
Considering
the
spring.
That's
on
the
adjacent
property
and
the
end
quote:
that's
all!
That's
all
proven
to
be
safe.
D
Yes,
all
injection
wells
in
the
State
of
Florida
meet
both
Federal
Regulations
from
the
EPA
and
also
State
of
Florida
additional
regulations.
That's
regulated
through
dep's,
underground
injection
control
program,
which
is
quite
strenuous,
there's
multiple
rounds
of
Permitting
that
you
have
to
go
through,
so
you
have
to
go
through
an
operational
test
period,
and
you
also
have
to
continuously
demonstrate
that
anything
that
you're,
injecting
depending
on
the
type
of
well
that
you're
constructing
and
what
you're
injecting
in
this
case
is.
You
know
you
know
salty
brine.
D
I
Yeah
I
actually
remember
the
injection
from
the
Citizens
Academy,
the
reverse
osmosis
plant,
but
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
timing
of
the
rezoning.
Why
is
this?
After
all
these
years?
Why
now.
G
There's
no
special
reason:
Public
Services
just
wanted
to
to
basically
clean
up
the
zoning
on
the
property
they
went
through.
Yeah
I
think
they
had
a
couple
years
ago.
You
know
permitted
a
building
on
site,
and
really
this
is
to
to
clean
up
your
your
map.
I
think.
D
L
Them
all
into
public
semi-public.
We
just
we've
recently
done
that
in
the
last
couple
years,
with
this
property
as
well,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
these
public
uses
that
are
that
were
stuck
into
residential
zoning
categories,
and
so
you
know
we
just
feel
like
it's
better
to
have
a
separate
zoning
category
that
address
CC's
public
government
type
uses
so
we're
systematically
cleaning
them
up.
As
you
know,
this
is
one
of
them
and.
A
I
guess
at
this
point
we'll
bring
it
back
to
the
board
for
consideration.
I
I
need
a
motion
and
a
second.
The
motion
must
be
in
the
affirmative
and
then
we
can
discuss
the
matter
further.
M
A
N
Ali
Keane
senior
planner
with
planning
zoning
department,
as
you
may
all
recall,
you
originally
heard
this
request
back
in
February
of
this
year.
At
that
meeting,
the
board
did
have
a
vote
of
three
to
two
to
deny
or
have
a
unfavorable
recommendation
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
Following
that
hearing
staff
did
identify
that
some
misinformation
was
provided
in
the
staff
report
and
presentation.
Last
month
the
applicants
came
back
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board,
requesting
a
re-hearing
of
the
application
to
have
the
correct
information
provided
to
the
board
for
consideration.
N
As
a
reminder,
this
property
is
located
at
44098,
U.S
Highway
19
North.
The
current
land
use
designation
is
RoR
residential
office
retail.
The
applicants
are
here
today
for
requesting
an
amendment
to
the
CG
commercial,
General
and
P
preservation,
land
use
categories.
The
zoning
of
the
property
is
currently
HB,
which
is
Highway
business.
The
property
is
a
total
of
6.71
acres
in
size.
There
is
a
0.2
acre
area
in
the
southwest
corner
of
the
site
that
is
wetlands,
and
that
is
the
area
that
corresponds
to
the
PE
preservation.
Land
use,
designation.
They
are
requesting.
N
The
property
itself
is
currently
vacant.
It
was
formally
operating
as
a
commercial
golf
driving
range,
which
has
ceased
operation
and
the
applicants
are
requesting
the
future
land
use
amendment
to
be
more
consistent
with
the
current
HB
Highway
business.
Zoning
designation
of
the
property,
as
well
as
to
remove
the
requirement
to
develop
this
property
as
mixed
use.
N
This
is
a
location
map
the
properties
outlined
here
in
yellow
it's
off
of
U.S
Highway,
19
North.
The
area
along
19
in
this
vicinity
is
primarily
a
mix
of
commercial
and
light
industrial
uses.
There
is
an
existing
townhome
development
to
the
south
of
the
property,
which
is
Brittany
Park
Townhomes
immediately
to
the
west
of
the
property,
are
some
wetlands
area
and
then
looking
North
across
Pasco
County
Line.
There
is
a
mixture
of
commercial
office
and
Warehouse
uses
and
then
across
US
19
Frontage
there's
a
mixture
of
different
industrial
and
Retail
uses.
N
This
is
a
survey
of
the
subject
property
again.
The
area
shaded
in
green
corresponds
to
the
wetlands
on
the
property,
and
this
is
the
area
proposed
to
go
into
the
PE
preservation
category.
The
most
significant
feature
on
the
site
is
an
existing
100
foot,
wide
Duke
power
line
easement.
The
presence
of
this
easement
is
one
of
the
primary
reasons
for
the
requested
Amendment.
There
are
some
compatibility
issues
with
residential
development
on
this
property
because
of
that
easement.
N
This
is
a
look
at
the
existing
future
land
use
map.
Again
the
property
here
borders,
the
Pasco
County
Line
on
us
19.,
all
the
property
along
US
19,
with
the
exception
of
Caliber
Collision,
which
is
this
property
right
here.
North
of
the
Anclote
river,
is
in
the
RoR
or
Rog
mixed-use
land
use
categories.
The
Caliber
Collision
property
went
through
a
land
use
Amendment
back
at
the
time
it
was
developed
in
order
for
it
to
develop
as
an
industrial
use.
N
N
N
This
table
here
is
comparing
the
current
future
land
use
category
of
residential
office
retail
with
the
proposed
CG
land
use
category.
One
of
the
primary
differences
is
the
RoR
category.
Is
a
mixed-use
land
use
category.
The
comprehensive
plan
requires
mixed-use
land
use
categories
to
have
properties,
develop
mixed
use,
meaning
that
this
property
future
development
would
be
required
to
have
a
residential
component
on
that
property.
As
I
stated
earlier,
the
presence
of
the
Duke
Energy
easement
that
bisects
the
site
limits
some
of
the
compatibility
and
abilities
develop
the
property
for
residential.
N
Some
of
the
other
primary
differences
between
the
two
categories
and
I
apologize-
this
is
a
little
small
on
the
screen
are
the
allowed
uses.
The
uses
that
I
have
highlighted
here
in
Orange
are
the
ones
that
would
be
additional
to
what
they
could
currently
do
today.
Those
include
wholesale
distribution,
storage
and
Warehouse
commercial,
commercial
recreation
uses,
light
manufacturing
and
assembly
residential,
equivalent
and
transportation
utility
uses.
N
N
As
I
mentioned
previously,
this
property
has
a
current
zoning
designation
of
HB
Highway
business.
This
is
the
most
intensive
commercial
District
within
the
city.
It
allows
a
range
of
commercial
office
and
light
industrial
uses.
The
only
type
of
residential
development
permitted
in
this
zoning
are
potentially
permitted
in
this
zoning
category
is
multi-family
and
that
does
require
conditional
use
approval
which,
as
you
know,
requires
public
hearings.
N
If
the
amendment
is
approved,
I
did
go
through
all
of
the
highway
business.
Land
uses
that
potentially
be
allowed,
either
by
right
or
through
the
conditional
use
process.
I've
pulled
out
what
you
see
here
on
the
screen
or
all
of
the
uses
that
potentially
would
now
be
an
option
for
this
property.
If
the
land
use
amendment
is
permitted
or
is
approved,
and
really
those
range
mostly
for
allowing
for
some
more
commercial
recreation
uses
some
light.
N
N
When
looking
at
the
future
land
use
map
Amendment
review
criteria
as
far
as
consistency
with
the
Florida
Statutes,
this
application
does
qualify
for
a
small
scale
Amendment
and
meets
that
criteria
due
to
the
size
of
the
property,
and
it
does
not
require
any
text
changes.
It
is
also
not
located
in
an
area
of
critical
concern.
N
Staff
did
do
a
full
review
of
all
12
elements
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
All
of
the
applicable
goals,
objectives
and
policies
are
listed
here
on
the
screen,
as
well
as
in
your
staff
report.
Overall
staff
does
believe
that
the
allowable
uses,
densities
and
intensities
of
the
requested
CG
land
use
category
are
consistent
with
those
that
are
permitted
in
the
highway
business
zoning
district
and
are
appropriate
for
the
surrounding
uses
along
the
U.S
19
Corridor.
N
Further,
the
proposed
CG
category
does
eliminate
that
requirement
to
have
a
residential
component
as
a
part
of
the
future
development,
which
is
more
consistent
with
the
development
pattern
on
us,
19
north
of
the
Anclote
River,
as
well
as
responsive
to
the
Duke
Energy
easement
on
the
site
and,
lastly,
consistency
with
the
countywide
plan.
As
I
mentioned.
A
Yes,
I've
got
a
couple
first
off
on
I
I'm,
a
little
unfamiliar
with
the
townhouses
immediately
to
the
South
are
those
condos
that
are
owned
by
the
residents
or
or
those
rental
units
I.
N
A
N
Us
I
can
verify
our
list.
It
depends
on
how
it
is
on
the
property,
appraiser
site.
A
And
then
obviously
I'm
I'm
concerned
with
the
south
portion
of
the
property,
because
it
is
so
close
to
the
the
town
homes
I
mean
they're
sitting
practically
right
on
the
property
line.
If
we
should
feel
so
inclined,
are
we
able
to
make
recommendations
about
larger
than
normal
buffers
and
and
larger
screening,
vegetation
or
or
things
like
that
or
or
is
that
something
that
doesn't
come
until
the
site
plan
process?
How.
F
Condition
has
to
be
reasonably
related
to
whatever
it
is
they're
trying
to
cure.
This
is
not
a
site
plan
approval,
though
so
a
lot
of
times
when
you
do
have
those
types
of
condition
well,
technically,
because
this
is
you're
changing
the
you're,
changing
the
land
use
on
it,
you're
not
approving
the
site
plan
site
plans
have
that,
but
when
you're
doing
the
zoning
it
doesn't
usually
have
those
types
of
conditions
attached
to
it.
N
A
What
about
the
floor
area
ratio
can
can?
Could
we
recommend
a
lower
floor
area
ratio
because
that's
a
very
significant
change?
That's
probably
the
most
significant
change
in
the
the
amount
that
you
can
build
on
the
property
to
go
from
20
to
40.
On
that.
I
I
have
a
question
I'm,
trying
to
compare
the
previous
application
to
today's
application
and
I'm
having
a
hard
time
finding
the
mistake
that
was
made,
because
I
was
under
the
impression
that
that
we're
rehearing
this,
which
we
voted
on,
because
the
current
use
was
incorrect.
But
the
only
difference
I
can
see
in
the
application
is
on
the
land
use
category
comparison
page
where
and
again
they're
the
original
use
offers
more
possibilities
than
is
am
I
missing.
Something
where,
where
was
the
mistake
so.
N
N
N
This
table
the
category
that
was
listed
in
previously
under
RoR.
It
was
citing
the
wrong
primary
uses,
secondary
uses
and
floor
area
ratio.
We
looked
at
the
Rog
category
by
mistake,
and
that
was
what
was
in
the
original
staff
report.
So
what
we
did
in
this
staff
report
was
we
updated
it
to
show
everything
in
red
is
what
is
actually
allowed.
Currently
today,
everything
struck
out
was
the
incorrect
information.
I
L
H
K
G
Ahead,
the
definition
of
heavy
utility
service
reads:
establishments
engaged
in
the
generation,
transmission
and
or
distribution
of
utilities,
including
electricity,
gas
or
steam,
potable
water
and
sanitary
sewer
systems
and
the
collection
or
disposal
of
solid
waste,
including
sanitary
landfills.
The
term
heavy
utility
service
shall
include
related
service
and
supply
yards
in
excess
of
one
acre
in
size.
N
Then
for
clarification,
if
that
were
proposed,
use
on
this
site,
if
the
amendment
is
approved,
it
would
require
conditional
use
approval.
So
it'd
come
back
before
both
you
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners
for
review
and
the
site
plan
associated
with
whatever
that
utility
use
would
be
would
be
paired
with
that
conditional
use
request.
M
I
have
a
question
chairman
and
whether
or
not
it's
for
Council
and
staff,
or
a
combination
thereof
at
at
this
point
in
time,
is
there
any
mechanism
in
place
that
would
allow
the
applicant
to
segregate
parcel
a
and
parcel
B
for
use
or
zoning
designation
due
to
the
fact
that
the
differences
are
substantial
for
the
South
parcel
parcel
parcel
B
because
of
the
abutment
to
the
residential
town
homes
and
making
it
you
know
match
with
the
North
Parcel
I
think
is,
is
really
unfair
to
you
know
the
existing
residents
there
so
I
don't
know
if
the
applicant
had
any
consideration
for
that
or
if,
in
fact,
it's
something
that
could
be
enabled
by
the
staff
recommendation
or
the
applicant
acceptance
or
if
that's
something
that
we
can
impose
at
this
stage
of
the
game,
because
by
the
time
you
get
to
a
site
plan,
the
zoning's
already
changed.
N
So
so
right
now
the
application
is
for
the
full
site,
the
full
6.7
Acres
I,
do
believe
the
staff
or
I'm
sorry.
The
applicant
has
been
in
conversations
with
Brittany
Park
I'll
defer
to
them
to
discuss
that.
But
right
now
the
application
is
for
the
entire
site.
As
a
reminder,
the
code
does
have
when
they
come
through
site
plan
approval
process.
N
There
are
buffering
requirements
between
commercial
and
residentially
zoned
properties,
which
would
be
this
case
and
at
that
time,
there's
potential
to
request
them
to
have
different
buffering
standards
depending
on
the
intensity
of
the
development.
But
there
are
standards
in
place
right
now
for
that
separation,
but
the
site
plan
is
really
when
that
would
be
addressed.
A
C
B
B
L
B
B
L
L
The
city
had
its
own
zoning
and
land
use
categories
prior
to
the
county-wide
planning
process.
So
whenever,
when
all
the
municipalities-
and
this
is
back,
then,
were
creating
their
comprehensive
plans
required
under
the
Florida
growth
management
Act,
the
county-wide
planning
Authority
set
out
the
the
land
use
categories
that
all
the
municipalities
had
to
be
consistent
with,
and
basically
we
had
to
use
the
same
categories.
L
So
the
RoR
that
in
Rog
those
are
all
holdovers
from
the
you
know
the
old
county-wide
plan
rules
we've
kept
them
in
place,
so
it
was
a
cop,
I'll,
say:
It's,
a
combination
of
things.
Okay,.
L
B
B
N
G
B
L
Stepping
back
to
your
previous
question
under
the
county-wide
plan
I
do
want
to
make.
You
know,
make
sure
that
everybody
is
aware
that
the
category
now
is
retail
and
services
and
everything
that's
being
asked
for
would
be
permitted
and
entirely
consistent
with
the
retail
and
services
county-wide
plan.
So
that
has
that
let
plan
has
evolved
over
time.
We
stayed
at
the
RoR.
We
have
not
changed
our
categories
to
match
the
county-wide
plan
or
reflect
the
county-wide
plan.
We're
you
know
a
little
more
restrictive
in
that
manner.
B
This
is
going
to
segue
off
the
other
gentleman's
question
and
you're
not
going
to
believe
this.
My
number
four
was
what
is
heavy
utility,
but
number
three
is,
if
approved,
even
conditional,
what
is
the
most
intensive
use
available
by
whether
whether
by
right
or
condition,
what
and
then
we
see
the
list
there,
but
it's
kind
of
vague
and
what
I
didn't
see
in
there
is
this
often
gets
brought
up
by
someone
who's
not
here
is
is,
is
adult
entertainment,
one
of
those
categories
that.
N
B
Although
the
property
now
is
bifurcated,
I
love
that
word
by
that
power
line
in
that
easement,
it
is
possible
that
it
could
be
developed
under
the
RoR
as
it
is
now
might
not
be
easy,
but
would
it
be
reasonable
that
it
could
be
developed
in
some
way
in
the
intent
of
the
RoR,
which
is
a
little
retail,
a
little
residential
and
a
little
business?
There's.
N
And
Duke
Energy
you
can
ask
for
special
requests
to
allow
certain
types
of
uses.
Usually
it's
surface
like
parking
areas
allowed,
but
you
can't
really
necessarily
build
buildings
in
that
location.
So
there
are
limitations,
but
they'd
have
to
work
with
Duke
Energy
and
look
at
their
allowances.
Super.
B
A
L
A
O
Huber
74,
745,
Virginia,
Street,
Dunedin,
Florida
and
I
am
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
staff,
has
done
an
exceptional
job,
walking
you
through
the
application,
as
well
as
as
the
request
I'd
like
to
go
a
little
bit
further,
because
there
seems
to
be
a
little
bit
of
confusion
or
misunderstanding
as
to
where
we
are
and
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
and
what
we're
asking
for.
O
So
one
of
one
of
the
members
of
the
board
raised
the
issue
of
the
underlying
comp
plan
and
comprehensive
plans
and
future
land
use
maps
are
are
very
interesting
things,
especially
when
they
get
carried
over
from
a
county
like
what
happened
here
and
so
what
happened
here
is
there
was
underlying
designation.
O
We
became
Incorporated
that
carried
over
the
county
map,
which
we
still
have
to
also
be
consistent
and
compatible
with,
has
changed
and
morphed,
and
over
the
last
30
years,
these
Parcels
have
not
been
developed
with
residential,
with
the
exception
of
one.
So
in
reality,
the
the
the
compatibility
is
with
that
individual
residential,
not
all
of
the
rest
of
the
properties,
because
they
all
have
been
developed
consistent
with
the
county-wide
plan,
which
is
retail
office
and
other
types
of
Industrial
and
Commercial
uses
more.
O
Interestingly,
one
of
the
other
reasons
why
we're
here
is
residential
is
not
a
permitted
use
under
our
existing
zoning
category.
It's
a
conditional
use.
So,
although
we're
required
and
obligated
to
have
residential,
we
actually
can't
have
residential
as
of
right.
So
there
is
an
inconsistency
and
an
incompatibility
between
your
own
comp
plan
and
your
underlying
zoning,
which
is
what
actually
brings
us
to
today
to
further
complicate
things
for
us.
O
Although
we
understand
we
recognize
we're
unbelievably
empathetic
and
we
have
been
working
with
our
neighbor
and
you're
going
to
hear
that
from
them
themselves
related
to
compatibility
or
potential
incompatibility
with
our
neighbor.
We
also,
as
the
owner
and
developer
of
the
property,
have
to
look
at
the
own
compatibility
issues
of
whatever
we're
going
to
develop
and
through
our
extensive
conversations
with
Duke
Energy.
It
is
not
possible
for
us
to
develop
residential
because
of
the
intensity
of
the
use
of
that
particular
Duke,
Energy
easement.
O
So
when
you're
talking
about
high
voltage
overhead
lines
and
the
restrictions
related
to
that
and
what
can
go
under
around
and
through
that,
it
is
almost
impossible
for
us
to
have
residential
in
a
manner
that
would
be
compatible
safe
or
an
otherwise
to
have
a
residential
use
there.
So
that
is
why
we
are
here
before
you
is
because
we
are
stuck
in
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place.
We
have
a
comp
plan
designation
that
requires
residential.
We
have
a
zoning
that
doesn't
allow
residential,
except
by
conditional
use
and
then
we've
to
further
complicate
it.
O
We
will
be
back
before
you
because
we're
required
by
your
code
for
any
type
of
site
plan,
there's
a
concern
related
to
some
of
the
particular
more
intense
uses.
Those
uses
exist
today
because
they're
in
the
zoning
they're
already
there,
it
was
already
determined
by
your
staff
through
the
Planning
and
Zoning
processes
that
those
uses
should
and
could
be
allowed
and
approved
in
this
area.
O
That's
why
it's
Highway
business,
but
because
some
of
those
uses
can
be
more
intense
and
aren't
always
the
right
fit
in
the
right
location,
they're
required
to
go
through
the
conditional
use
which
brings
us
back
to
you
and
the
board
of
County
Commissioners.
So
if
we
were
to
try
to
ask
for
one
of
those
uses
that
you
all
believe
isn't
compatible
or
inconsistent,
you
would
at
that
point
in
time
say
no
and
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
would
say
no,
so
that's
the
way
that
the
planning
process
has
gone
and
has
continued
to
gone.
O
So
we're
we're
not
here
asking
for
some
huge
change
that
changes
the
whole
philosophical
background
and
belief
for
this
area.
What
we're
saying
is
this
property,
and
these
properties
along
US
19,
have
been
developed
over
the
last
30
30
years
and
no
one,
except
for
in
one
individual
location,
believed
that
residential
use
was
consistent
or
compatible
with
the
high
intensity
of
US
19,
especially
in
this
area.
The
county
recognized
that
and
upgraded
and
modified
its
plan
to
remove
the
residential
component,
which
why
it's
been
developed.
O
The
way
that
it
has
and
all
we're
saying,
is
consistent
with
that
and
the
fact
that
we
sit
on
Pasco
County,
which,
just
to
the
other
side
of
us,
is
industrial,
so
any
residential
use
that
we
would
pers
intend.
We've
got
Duke
high
intensity
level.
Above
us,
we
have
industrial
to
the
other
side
of
us.
O
The
other
part
of
this
application
is
we're
not
just
asking
for
the
change
from
RoR
to
commercial
General.
We
also
have
Wetlands,
so
another
portion
of
this
application
and
I
think
it
kind
of
got
overlooked
because
we
were,
we
were
digging
into
this
other
part
is
we
also
are
changing
the
RoR
to
preservation
for
the
person
the
portion
of
this
property?
O
That's
that's
Wetlands,
so
we
have
a
lot
going
on
between
the
wetlands,
the
Duke,
the
neighbors,
the
industrial,
and
so
what
we're
simply
asking
is
for
all
of
you
to
be
reasonable
and
to
understand
that
that
this
is
a
request
that
is
brought
out
of
necessity.
It's
one
that
we
have
had
extensive
conversations
with
your
staff.
It's
why
the
report
is
thorough
and
it's
why
your
staff
is
recommending
approval
and,
and
they
recommended
approval
before
they
themselves
realized.
There
was
a
mistake
that
they
had
made.
O
They
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
correct
and
their
recommending
approval
before
you
again
tonight.
We
do
understand
that
there
are
concerns
related
to
our
neighbors.
They
have
been
properly
noticed.
They've
all
received
the
notices
we've
been
speaking
with
their
counsel,
their
lawyers.
Here
you
will
hear
from
him.
Their
president
is
also
here.
O
We
we
have
been
working.
We
will
continue
to
work
with
them.
We
are
very
close,
close
to
a
resolution
that
addresses
any
concerns.
The
primary
that
you
all
have
kind
of
spoken
about
tonight,
related
to
compatibility
as
well
as
buffering
your
code
is
pretty
extensive
in
terms
of
what
that
looks.
Like
we
intend
to
not
only
comply
with
what's
in
your
code
but
to
exceed
that
which
would
address
any
any
issues
that
they
have,
the
other
thing
that's
important
to
notice
is
along
that
property
line.
O
O
We
get
directions.
The
South
West
corner
of
that
parcel
can't
be
developed
anyway,
so
there's
already
an
additional
buffer.
So
so
we're
talking
about
the
majority
of
the
development
actually
occurring
on
the
other
side
of
the
Duke
Energy
easement.
O
Oh
sorry,
let
me
see.
I
was
trying
to
kind
of
focus
on
a
few
of
the
things
that
I
noticed
you
all
had
concerns
about,
rather
than
repeating
what
staff
had
said.
I
am
going
to
turn
it
over
briefly.
Our
expert
planners
here
he's
going
to
go
through
his
piece
quickly,
which
will
further
emphasize
that
this
is
the
appropriate
and
compatible
use
for
this
property.
It's
more
than
consistent
with
your
comprehensive
plan
and
it
actually.
P
Hi
and
my
name
is
Robert
pergolizzi
I'm,
a
professional
planner,
aicp
certified
and
I've
been
sworn
I'll,
be
real,
quick
because
Ali
did
a
really
nice
job.
We're
seeking
this
comprehensive
plan
Amendment
from
RoR
to
CG,
because
we're
trying
to
be
consistent
between
the
zoning
and
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
site's
highly
commercialized.
As
you
know,
it's
on
a
major
quarter.
The
six-lane
divided
highway,
US
19
through
the
city.
P
The
site
is
bifurcated
by
a
100
foot,
wide
Duke
Energy
power
line,
easement
that
runs
through
the
center
of
the
property
for
the
entire
650
foot
length.
The
rlr
land
use
has
been
stated
many
times
before
it
requires
residential
on
the
property,
and
this
creates
a
compatibility
problem
for
us.
It
creates
an
internal
inconsistency
between
the
zoning
and
the
land
use,
and
the
proposed
amendment
to
CG
would
resolve
the
inconsistencies
and
that's
what
prompted
this
request.
P
That's
to
the
West.
It's
a
large
Wetland.
The
justification
in
in
my
mind,
for
this
planned
amendment
is
that
the
Ottawa
land
use
designation
requires
residential
use
as
part
of
the
property.
The
Duke
Energy
easement
that
splits
the
property,
makes
it
residential
development
extremely
difficult
and
nearly
impossible
to
Market.
Given
the
president's
presence
of
the
transmission
power
line,
US
19
is
a
highly
commercialized
Corridor
dominated
by
retail,
commercial
and
office
uses
and
the
large
Wetland
to
the
West
provides
a
natural
buffer.
So,
in
my
opinion,
a
land
use
Amendment
to
the
subject.
P
Property
will
allow
for
consistent
and
compatible
zoning
and
land
use
on
the
subject
property.
The
depth
of
the
CG
land
use
would
be
limited
by
the
adjacent
Wetland
to
the
West,
which
serves
as
a
buffer,
and
the
CG
area
would
match
the
HB
zoning
area
perfectly
and
as
far
as
the
county-wide
there's
no
change
to
the
county-wide
plan.
P
So
as
as
a
summary
just
stating
that
we
have
limitations
due
to
the
Duke
Energy
easement
we're
going
to
have
parking
and
circulation
requirements
as
we
get
to
site
plan
and
the
HB
zoning
limits
future
development
to
a
point
for
Florida
area
ratio.
Maximum
height
is
35
feet
and
I
know
that
Amy
has
been
working
with
the
Neighbors
at
Brittany
Park
to
discuss
additional
buffers
and
things
like
that,
and
maybe
they
will
speak
to
that
and
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
Amy.
P
A
Yeah
I
have
a
couple:
the
there's
there's
a
significant
change
in
the
floor
area
ratio
is,
is
a
result
of
this.
That's
a
that's
a
pretty
major
benefit
to
the
developer
that
floor
area
ratio
in
the
area
down
close
to
the
residences
concerns
me
a
little
bit
and
I
know
it.
At
this
point
we
can't
really
change
anything
to
do
that,
but
is,
is
the
applicant
at
all
considered
agreeing
to
A
reduced
floor
area
ratio
or
something
on
the
on
the
southern
parcel
of
that
property?.
P
O
Or
where
it
gets
deployed,
I
think
is
what
you're
asking
me.
C
O
Not
good
at
this
of
this
one,
there
you
go
so
if
you
can
see
this
area
here
can't
be
developed
so
just
as,
and
then
we
can't
develop
anything
here.
O
O
And
that
is
the
area
that
we
have
had
extensive
conversations
and
discussions
related
to
not
only
buffering
screening
but
also
a
use,
the
uses
that
we
would
restrict
or
limit
in
that
area,
as
well
as
a
reduction
to
the
size
and
the
height
of
the
structure.
That
would
go
there,
and
so
all
of
those
things
will
come
back
to
you
at
site
plan.
O
It
will
be
more
fully
developed.
The
purpose
of
this
is
is
to
release
the
burden
of
residential
and,
as
as
Robert
spoke
to
about
it's
extremely
difficult,
to
ask
people
to
purchase
a
residential
property
where
you
have
that
intensity
of
overhead
power
lines.
It's
just
in
Florida.
It's
not
it's
not
going
to
happen,
especially
when
you
have
hurricanes
and
the
other
things
it's
just
not
a
place
where,
where
people
feel
safe
or
comfortable,
and
so
that
that
is
something
that
is
extremely
unique
and
different
to
this
parcel.
It's
what
makes
it
different.
I
O
We
don't
have,
in
terms
of
specific
uses,
an
exact
of
what's
going
to
go
there.
No
in
terms
of
building
pads,
the
building
pads
are
dictated
by
the
easement,
the
Wetland
and
the
storm
water.
So
so,
naturally,
you're
going
to
have
a
building
pad
here
and
the
majority
of
the
rest
of
it
has
to
go
there.
O
Asking
is
to
take
away
the
the
residential
use
that
that
is,
that
is
the
nature
of
this
and
and
like
I
said.
The
irony
is
your
underlying
zoning
doesn't
even
permit
residential
as
a
right,
so
there's
an
inconsistency.
It's
been
there
for
a
long
time,
which
is
why
the
majority
of
US
19
is
all
developed
as
commercial
and
Industrial.
It's
not
developed
as
residential
and
their
actual
underlying
zoning
is
different
than
the
the
remainder
of
this
area
on
19.
I.
A
M
No
just
a
quick
comment:
if
I
could
Mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
continuing
to
evolve
with
the
information
with
this
I'm
very
happy
to
hear
that
there's
been
a
dialogue
established
and,
and
possibly
some
bridging
of
ideas
with
the
neighbors
to
the
Noah.
That's
the
most
important
thing
here,
as
the
chairman
said,
the
floor
area
ratio
that
that's
one
thing.
That's
the
pancaking
of
you
know
what
you
build
there,
but
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
lot
coverage
and
I
know.
M
You
talked
about
the
the
green
area
and
the
gray
area,
and
that
maybe
this
dialogue
with
the
neighbors
has
been
more
focused
to
the
area
closer
to
US
19.
For
that
that
also
abuts,
you
know
a
large
amount
of
their
development,
so
I'll
I'll
Reserve
any
any
opinion
at
this
time
after
hearing
from
the
The
Neighbors
about
the
HOA
president
and
their
attorney
but
I.
Thank
you
very
much
because
this
was
much
more
informative
than
the
first
time
we
sat
here
and
heard.
Thank
you.
A
Q
Good
evening
my
name
is
Scott.
Gross
I
am
with
the
firm
of
Greenberg
nikoloff
we're
located
at
1964
Bayshore
Boulevard
in
Dunedin
I
am
here
representing
the
Brittany
Park
Townhomes
I
think
the
the
the
board
is
has
laid
out
generally
the
concerns
that
we
have
as
well
and
I.
Think
Ms
Hoover
did
a
good
job
sort
of
describing
what's
going
on
what
the
situation
is.
She's
correct
that
we've
been
discussing
generally
how
to
resolve
some
of
these
issues
we
are
close,
I
would
say
to
to
sort
of
getting
there.
We've
we've
got.
You
know.
Q
The
big
concern,
obviously,
for
us
is,
is
noise
and
creating
some
kind
of
buffer
there.
That
would
help
eliminate
the
noise,
the
lighting
as
well
as
sort
of
a
big
one,
I
know,
there's
there's
code
and
and
everything
relating
to
lighting
and
the
buffering
so
we're
we're
trying
to
to
work
through
some
of
these
issues
with
the
developer
and
their
Council,
trying
to
to
bring
that
all
to
a
head.
Q
I
will
say
there
there's
at
least
some
concern
because
of
these
are
Town
Homes.
Not
it's
not
a
condo
association.
The
board,
can't
just
the
board
of
the
association,
cannot
just
decide
how
these
individual
lots
and
what
their
owners
do.
They
can't
dictate
to
them.
You
know,
for
example,
remove
a
tree
or
something
like
that.
Q
So
there's
there's
some
concern
about
sort
of
the
the
feasibility
I
think
from
from
our
side
of
of
how
some
of
this
gets
implemented
at
the
end
of
the
day,
but
we
have
spoken
about
building
a
wall
along
the
perimeter
there
at
least
where
our
buildings
exist
and
then
doing
some
other
screening
with
trees
and
other
sort
of
landscaping
to
to
try
to
eliminate
some
of
the
the
concerns
I
do
want
to
let
my
board
president
speak
to
you
guys
and
sort
of
discuss
his
concerns.
H
R
I
do
thank
you.
My
name
is
Vincent
Manor.
If
you
need
my
address,
it's
925
Ozzie
Court
I'm,
the
president
of
Brittany,
Park,
Townhomes,
there's
59
units
59
residents
and
the
reason
why
you
don't
have
59
registers
because
the
board
communicates
to
them
so
that
the
board
was
going
to
handle
the
whole
situation.
So
we
have
something
calm
and
peaceful
to
deal
with
and
discuss.
That's
why
they're
not
here,
but
if
I
send
out
the
email
I
could
you
know
the
situation
is
and
can
I
have
the
point.
C
R
Right
on
here's,
the
wetlands
now
right
here,
that's
a
four
unit
building,
then
another
four
unit
Bill-
and
this
is
a
dead
end,
but
there's
an
additional
home
right
here,
running
sideways.
So
what
involves
on
our
property
line
is
nine
residents?
Okay,
it's
what's
sitting
right
here,
all
right
that
affects
nine
individual
right
up
front
they're
right
on
the
The
War
Zone,
in
other
words
the
other
51
units
they're
after
it.
So
whatever
happens
on
this
strip
here
immediately
affects
my
home
and
eight
other
residents.
R
So
if
there's
any
Equity
loss
or
all
of
that,
but
we
we
felt
to
do
it.
We
would
try
to
come
to
an
equitable
decision.
But
the
problem
is
yes,
we're
going
back
and
forth,
but
it's
not
as
easy
as
you
think,
you're
mentioned
about
height.
Well,
we
didn't
want
any
two-story
building
up
against
our
property
and
we're
right
now
same.
It's
25
feet,
which
you
don't
know,
okay,
so
we're
concerned
about
that.
Then
we're
dealing
with
I
can't
make
those
residents
take
a
tree
out.
R
I
don't
have
that
paddle,
because
these
are
attached
homes
and
it's
lot.
They
control
everything
they
got
to
conform,
but
there's
certain
things:
I
can't
do
with
them,
which
is
a
problem.
The
wetlands
that's
true,
but
it
says
Wetlands
but
I'll
be
honest
with
you
10
11
months
out
of
the
year,
I
can
walk
right
around
here
and
the
fences
there
and
I
can
walk
right
onto
that
property.
So
it's
not
a
Wetlands.
That's
a
buffer
zone
in
water.
R
As
far
as
duke
of
what
we've
found
out,
it's
a
power
line
going
straight
down
the
center
of
that
in
that
blue
area
and
they're
medium
gray,
not
the
high
high
tension
ones,
but
they
have
to
be
280
feet
away
from
our
building.
So
what
they're
saying
is
true,
but
then
I
don't
know
when
you
put
a
commercial
what
it
does
all
right,
but
they
they
had
started
because
right
across
the
street
down
the
center
of
that
blue.
R
If
you
cross
19,
there's
a
pole
there
naked,
because
they're
behind
but
they're
coming
right
through
they're
going
through
that
buffer
area,
all
the
way
heading
to
alternate
19.,
which
I've
seen
we're
trying
to
come
to
a
solution.
I
mean
the
first
thing
when
I
dealt
with
my
residents,
they
said
well,
why
you
know
why
can't
they
leave
our
side
alone
develop
on
the
other
side?
That
was
one
of
their
concerns.
R
The
other
thing
is
the
height
the
noise,
the
light-
and
you
know,
I'm,
I,
hear
and
I
understand,
because
that's
why
we're
trying
to
come
to
a
decision?
Well,
19
is
commercial.
All
this
stuff,
that's
fine
and
dandy,
but
we're
a
town
home
that
was
put
right
there
on
19.,
and
we
have
to
have
some
kind
of
consideration
by
the
Commissioners
the
zoning
to
protect
us.
You
allowed
somebody
I
believe
it
was
in
2008
to
build
our
our
community
or
a
little
bit
sooner.
R
So
we
were
there
for
a
good
amount
of
time
too
now
the
property
when
we
purchased
it
because
I'm
one
of
The
Originals
when
we
purchased
on
that
whole
row,
there
we'd
come
out
into
our
little
backyard.
We
don't
have
big
backyards,
15
feet,
that's
it
and
then
we're
in
our
in
our
home
was
a
golf
driving
range.
So
we
looked
at
it.
It
was
beautiful,
open
grass.
Now
we're
being
asked
to
let
this
thing
be
developed
to
whatever
you
know.
We
you
know.
So
it's
just
we
need.
R
R
What's
going
on
our
side
to
me
that
we
should
know,
you
know
not
speculation
and
not
just
seeing
a
big
Square
building
going,
our
building
is
96
feet.
Long
then
about
a
20
foot
in
between
another
96
a
dead
end.
Another
row,
that's
about
probably
in
a
neighborhood
of
300
feet,
long,
that's
a
massive
box,
we're
looking
at
and
don't
have
a
clue
of.
R
What's
going
there
later
on,
we
will,
after
we
sign
some
kind
of
Equitable
decision,
so
we're
relying
on
you
to
help
us
a
little
bit
but
we're
willing
to
work
with
them
in
which
we
have.
But
you
know
we're
just
we're
we're
about
70
75
percent
there
and
we're
already
now
here
to
approve
it
and
the
last
time
you
know
it
was
not
approved
for
a
glitch,
and
then
we
turned
around.
R
We've
only
been
working
on
this
we're
trying
to
go
as
fast
as
we
can
we're
trying
to
be
as
reasonable
as
we
can,
but
like
they've,
got
to
be
concerned
about
the
owner
of
the
property.
I've
got
to
be
concerned
about
the
residents.
You
know
all
of
them,
but
I've
got
nine
along
there
that
it's
going
to
affect
their
lives
and
their
happiness.
The
way
they're
living
with
they're
willing
to
bend.
But
you
know
there's
only
so
much
you
can
do
you
have
any
questions.
I'm,
the
one
I've.
H
The
positive
that
I'm
hearing
is
that
the
two
sides
are
communicating
yes,
and
you
made
a
good
point
that
you're
about
75
percent
favorable.
So
that
sounds
like
there's
been
progress.
Let
me
ask
you
a
question
about
the
previous
con
use
of
that
facility.
It
was
a
golf
range
right.
Did
you
ever
get
hit
with
golf
balls
in
your
yard?
They
had
netsup
okay,
so
they
had
something
to
protect.
That.
R
Protected
whatever
happened,
it
went
under
whatever,
but
at
one
point
it
was
a
beautiful
place
to
sit
on
your
deck
and
look
out
and
you
saw
a
driving
range,
the
big
open
field,
you
know,
and
it
was
nice.
Then
it
went
under
and
now
it's
just
an
open
field,
but
an
open
field
way.
You
know,
isn't
bad
either,
but
you
know
times
change
when
we
understand
that.
H
Well,
my
last
question:
we're
not
a
question
again
I'm
going
to
compliment
both
sides.
You
seem
to
be
working
towards
a
resolution.
So
that's
a
positive.
How
many
years
have
you
reside
there?
I've.
R
Very
red
is
that
drainage
I
mean
it'll
get
but
like
I
said,
I
I
mean
I
would
say
if
I
had
to
be
a
man
which
I'm
not
I'd,
say
10
10
10
months
out
of
the
year,
you're
not
going
to
get
it.
Maybe
the
rainy
season
a
little
bit
but
I've
never
seen
that
area
flooded.
It's
a
good
place
to
have
it
because
I
know
the
flow
from
Swift
Mud.
It
does
go
to
that
area.
Thank.
K
You
have
no
way
of
knowing
whether
how
long
whether
the
the
the
applicants
have
the
property
before
the
easement
or
whether
this.
R
Is
in
development,
when
we
were
there,
he
had
it
the
building
dealt
with
our
bill
to
dealt
with
him
now
in
2008
I,
don't
know
if
he
had
the
property.
It
was
a
different
owner
that
went
under
I,
know
our
Builder
sometime
in
that
time,
when
he
took
over,
say
2012
2013
he
went
to
the
owner
and
offered
to
buy
the
commercial
for
homes
and
well.
I
could
find
out.
Is
that
he
wanted.
R
H
O
Just
trying
to
pull
up
the
actual
date
of
the
easement,
it's
been
in
place
for
an
extremely
long
time
and
it
wasn't
until
the
owner
who
has
owned
it's
a
husband
and
wife
that
owned
and
they've
owned
it
for
a
very
long
time.
It
was
an
operator
who
operated
not
an
owner
of
the
of
the
driving
range.
The
current
owners
owned
it
at
that
time.
So
you,
you
know
lots
of
times
you
lease
a
parcel
to
someone.
O
They
operate
it,
and
so
it
wasn't
until
there
was
a
question
as
to
what
and
how
and
so
part
of
the
I
know,
I
know,
there's
some
frustration
on
everyone's
part
as
to
what
exactly
are
you
doing?
Well,
it's
very
difficult
to
be
able
to
tell
anyone
exactly
what
we're
doing
when
at
the
current
moment
we
don't
know-
and
we
can't
tell
anybody,
because
we
don't
have
a
use
in
place
that
actually
works
for
us.
B
H
O
O
Yeah,
it's
been
it's
it's,
it
predates
them
as
well,
and
so
it's
it's
it's
there.
It's
been
there.
B
R
C
R
Two
years
ago,
with
the
owner
or
tenant,
they
actually
released
that
whole
Center
area
and
they
put
all
their
power
lines
that
they
put
up
on
19.
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
another
Resident,
another
Resident
found
out
I
got
somewhere
with
Duke
and
they
said
yes
we're
coming
down
the
center
of
that
with
a
power
line.
R
Not
your
you
know
the
the
old
rector
set,
not
that
one,
the
high
just
cast
the
metal
poles
they're
coming
down
through
there
with
that,
but
the
what
happened
is
they're
behind
schedule,
so
that
could
be
a
couple
of
more
years
before
they
do
it.
R
But
if
you
drive
by
and
right
where
that
center
of
the
blue
is,
if
you
look
right
on
the
other
side
on
the
east
side
of
19,
you'll
see
the
pole
there
just
there
that
they
already
put
in
they
just
haven't,
come
over
to
do
anything
else
because
they're
behind
and
then
we
found
out
that
for
our
buildings
they
have
to
be.
The
wire
has
to
be
280
feet
away.
Okay,.
C
B
That's
okay!
That's!
Okay!
I
have
a
couple
more.
If
I
heard
it
right,
you
mentioned
something
about
being
asked
when
you
were
negotiating
with
the
current
owner
or
their
firm
or
whomever
that
there
was
conversation
about
you
and
your
residents
paying.
R
B
Q
R
R
There
now
is
there
an
offense
that
some
of
it's
been
tied
together,
it's
old,
it's
decrepit,
the
one
behind
me.
I
had
to
actually
re-do
it
so
that
it
would
stand
up
I'm,
one
of
the
residents
that
actually
put
a
PVC
fence
up
to
it,
but
on
my
property
line,
there's
three
residents
that
do
have
so
the
concern
is
and
I
understand
from
my
opinion,
you
know
if
I
have
to
move
the
fence,
but
I
know
I'm
on
my
property
line,
I'm
just
concerned.
R
If
there's
going
to
be
a
situation
where
the
other
residents
may
have
to
move
it,
where
I
don't
think
we
should
even
have
to
be
even
should
be
considered,
but
you
know
we're
in
them.
We're
negotiating
it
and
you
know
I'm
going
to
be
quite
honest:
I,
don't
like
anything,
that's
that's
can't
be
set
out
in
public,
whether
I'm
signing
it
or
not.
That's
one
thing:
our
board
is
not
happy
about
with
this
negotiation,
so
you
can
put
it
on
the
record.
I
One
more
question
for
you:
without
violating
any
thing
that
you've
signed,
can
you
discuss
some
of
the
fears
that
your
residents
have
about?
What
could
be
there.
R
One
first
thing
would
be
the
height
of
the
building.
I
mean
we
understand,
there's
two
sides:
well,
we
feel
the
other
side
shouldn't,
because
we
don't
care
if
it's
too
story
on
the
other
side
on
our
side,
we
would
prefer
if
it
was
one
story
but
I,
know
that's
for
another
day
the
noise
Factor.
We
are
concerned
about
the
hours
of
operation.
We
really
don't
want
anything.
That's
going
to
be
past
the
reasonable
hour
to
operate.
You
know
when
you're
negotiating
there's
where
you
get
into
the
situation.
We
don't
have
anything.
R
Next
to
us,
we
had
a
driving
range.
The
thing
was
always
done
by
daylight,
and
that
was
the
end
of
it.
Sun
went
down
that
was
8
30
9
o'clock.
There
was
no
more
driving
range,
you
know,
then
they
had
a
little
building
that
they
sold
liquor
and
then
banned,
but
that
was
shut
down
if
somebody
called
and
complained
because
of
the
noise
at
10
o'clock.
R
So
we're
just
looking
for
things
that
are
reasonable
and
are
not
going
to
you
know
affect
our
our
property
value
because
whatever
affects
this
strip
affects
the
others,
because
you
know
how
that
works,
but
we're
trying
to
come
to
a
reasonable
situation.
You
know
that
we
know
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
strip
joint.
You
know
we
put
in
some
things.
You
know
there
we're
we're
discussing
it,
but
you
know
how
that
goes,
and.
R
R
Majority
are
leaving
the
board
to
make
the
decision,
in
other
words,
so,
instead
of
having
them
come
here
and
get
you
know
the
good
ones
and
the
only
you
know
what
happens,
we
just
figured
the
board
would
our
or
where
our
lawyer
would
be
more
Equitable
fair
for
you,
guys
and
fair
for
the
the
Builder
we're
trying
to
be
as
Fair
as
we
can
with
with
the
owner.
We
understand
his
situation,
but
we,
you
know,
we
are
there.
We
purchased
one
way
and
now
we're
asked
you
know
for
a
whole
different
operation
that.
H
I
want
to
add
on
to
my
calling
75
percent
of
the
nine
unit
owners.
What
would
you
say
you
all.
R
Well,
against
the
situation,
percentage-wise
I
can't
right
now
we're
in
discussions
okay
and
we're
at
75
in
agreement
of
what
we're
working
on.
But
what
I
have
to
do?
Not
only
let
the
total
59
members
of
the
community
know
I
have
to
to
make
this
done
right.
I
have
to
go.
My
exclude
myself
because
I
know.
What's
going
on,
I
have
to
go
to
those
eight
residents
that
are
right
up
against
that
boundary.
R
K
K
R
Representing
their
feelings,
they're
happy
about
it
because
they're
concerned
about
their
property
values
but
like
like
the
board-
and
that
is
we
understand
things,
change
time
has
changed
and
it's
better
to
come
to
an
equitable
decision
between
the
Builder
and
us.
So
that's
where
we
are,
but
as
far
as
where
we
are
on
our
negotiations,.
K
A
If
there's
no
further
questions
I'll
ask:
are
there
any
other
members
of
the
public
here
to
speak
on
this,
seeing
none
that
brings
it
back.
A
We'll
bring
it
back
to
the
board
here.
I
need
a
motion
in
the
second
and
a
second.
It
has
to
be
affirmative.
Obviously
you
can
vote
no
on
it
when
it
comes
time
to
vote,
but
that's
the
way
the
rules
go
and
then
we
can
have
further
discussion
amongst
the
board.
A
All
right,
let's
have
further
board
discussion
of
the
item.
Then.
M
Well,
I
I,
for
one
am
encouraged
that
there's
a
dialogue,
that's
continuing,
that's
that's
the
most
important
thing,
I
mean
generally
people
say:
compromises
are
are
achieved
when
both
parties
are
unhappy,
but
I
like
to
think
that
both
parties
can
be
a
little
happy.
Also
with
the
with
the
proposed
change
changes
happening
every
day
around
us.
Unfortunately,
Florida
is
growing
by
the
minute,
I'm,
sorry
to
say,
and
sometimes
that
you
know
comes
without
proper
planning.
M
The
fact
that
additional
uses
would
be
permitted
here
is
my
great
concern,
because
sometimes,
if
you
open
the
door,
the
current
applicant,
the
current
property
owner,
may
not
be
the
property
owner
5
10
15
years
from
now,
and
they
the
intent
of
these
people,
you
know,
may
not
be
carried
on
at
that
point
unless
there's
something
legally
binding
set
by
either
this
board
or
the
Board
of
Commissioners
down
the
road.
M
What
does
bring
me
Comfort
is
that
this
application
will
come
back
in
some
fashion,
both
to
us
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
and
the
planning
department
for
site
plan
and
possible
conditional
use
approval.
So
there
are,
there
are
buffers
you
know
on
the
path
and
I
I
hate.
You
know
not
knowing
what
you
know:
I'm
an
HOA
president
myself,
because
a
lot
of
times
you're
pervy
to
information
that
you
can't
disclose
at
the
time
and
it.
M
Troubles
me
because
I
like
being
an
open
book
but
I,
think
that
the
progress
and
the
information
that
came
forth
tonight
makes
me
a
little
more
confident
that
some
satisfaction
to
all
the
parties
can
be
achieved
so
I.
Thank
you
all.
You
know
for
coming
and
disclosing
what
you
have
and
I.
You
know
glad
to
see
that
the
homeowners
there
are
are
represented
in
the
proper
fashion.
A
Yes,
I
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and
and
that
helps
to
resolve
some
of
my
concerns.
I'm
I
and
I
completely
understand
that
a
change
needs
to
be
made
in
the
underlying
land
use
I'm,
not
entirely
sure.
This
is
the
right
change.
Given
the
situation,
I'm
I'm
still
coming
to
grips
with
that
I
guess,
but
it
it
certainly
helps
that
that
the
residents
feel
like
progress
is,
is
being
made
in
addressing
their
concerns
because
their
concerns
are
are
where
my
concerns
lie.
I
I
thought
that
this
came
for
every
hearing,
I
didn't
get
an
opportunity
to
fully
explain
my
reasoning
for
my
no
vote
last
time
and
a
lot
of
it
was
because
Mr
Vesey
covered
a
lot
of
it.
As
far
as
that,
there's
a
reason
that
the
code
is
written
a
certain
way
and
in
all
of
my
decision
making
on
this
board,
especially
when
it
comes
to
changing
the
future,
something
that's
going
to
change
the
entire
code.
I
There
has
to
be
a
very
compelling
reason
and
a
lot
of
people
Overlook.
One
of
the
factors
that
we
should
always
do
is
the
residents
and
thankfully
Mr
Vesey,
brought
that
up
last
time
and
I'm
glad
that
Mr
Vince
was
here
today
to
represent
them
and
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
doing
the
math,
whatever
the
remaining
75,
which
I
believe
would
be
about
14
people
that
aren't
on
board.
That's
a
no
for
me.
I
That's
that's
them
saying
they
don't
support
this
and
the
way
that
this
all
happened
with
the
having
the
re-hearing
again
and
then
I'll.
Give
you
much
more
prepared
this
time
around,
which
was
my
concern
about
having
this
redone
again,
because
every
time
you
get
another
bite
at
the
Apple,
you're
always
going
to
come
back
more
prepared,
and
these
arguments
were
not
here
the
first
time
and
that
concerns
me
obviously
Private
Business
deals
are
private,
whatever
that
is,
but
again
that
just
rubs
me
the
wrong
way.
I
The
residential
requirement
I
believe
if
I
can
read
this
right
is
five
percent,
so
I
think
if
you
put
an
apartment
above
a
retail
shop,
maybe
that's
enough,
but
I,
don't
think
these
are
the
way
the
changes
should
come
to
our
comprehensive
land
use
code.
We're
reworking
it
now.
It
was
made
that
way
for
a
reason:
I,
don't
think
that
we
change
it
based
on
somebody
who
already
has
tons
of
uses
available,
but
yet
no
clue
what
they're
going
to
put
there
and
I.
I
Just
don't
think
that
that's
honest
I,
don't
think
they've
been
forthcoming,
especially
after
tonight.
I.
Don't
think
that
reason
is
compelling
enough.
It's
always
you
know
good
to
bring
an
expert
to
back
up
your
position
and
I
I.
You
know
Vince
coming
out
here
and
speaking
for
those
people.
That's
great,
but
I
still
feel
that
there's
a
lot
of
hesitancy
there
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
at
least
we
give
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
I
You
know
the
full
picture
of
our
reasoning
behind,
or
at
least
my
reasoning
behind
my
vote,
so
I'm,
gonna
and
just
because
last
time
a
commissioner
wasn't
sure
why
I
voted
a
certain
way.
This
is
why
I'm
explaining
why
I'm
going
to
vote
now.
B
I
have
a
couple
chair,
I'd
like
to
say
that
I
appreciate
everybody's
thoughtful
words
and
everybody
that
came
chair,
I'd
like
to
expand
on
my
concerns
that
probably
are
even
a
little
bit
more
formed
than
yours
in
regards
to
the
aggressive
change
and
and
even
though
you've
asked
twice
about
what
that
implication
is
I,
don't
feel
like
we
kind
of
got
a
good
answer
on
that.
I'm
also
deeply
concerned
about
the
completely
apparent
vagarity
about
what
is
being
planned
and
developed,
not
even
a
hint
it's
being
held
under
cloak.
B
That's
how
I
feel
might
be
wrong.
That's
just
how
I
feel
that
would
go
consistent
with
our
other
colleague
that
there
just
seems
to
be
something
missing.
Then
I'd
like
to
expand
upon
it.
Is
that
I'm
concerned
that
the
current
existing
residents
in
a
way
have
to
defend
themselves
against
something
that
they
don't
have
to.
That's
our
job,
in
my
opinion,
is
that
this
hasn't
been
approved.
The
fact
that
they're
in
negotiations
to
protect
their
backyard
before
anything,
has
even
been
approved.
That
just
strikes
me
as
odd
Private,
Business.
B
Fine,
it
just
seems
odd
to
Me
Maybe,
that's
how
it
happens
and
I
would
politely
disagree
overall
in
regards
to
the
easement
concept
and
how
it
forces
their
hand
for
development
that
nothing
else
can
be
developed.
That
is
completely
and
patently
false,
because
in
fact
this
board
has
seen
consistently
recently
a
large
residential
development
that
has
the
exact
same
easement
running
right
down
the
side.
B
It's
a
fact
doesn't
make
it
inconvenient.
Certainly
owners
knew
it,
then
they
know
it
now,
but
because
it's
convenient
and
we've
got
this
micro
that
it
is
not
perfect,
they
want
to
change
it
and
then
I'll
fall
back
on
the
start.
Precisis
and
say
that's
how
it
is
and
I'm
going
to
fall
back
and
say
that
Vince
and
his
residents
really
are
the
ones
that
we
need
to
be
most
concerned
about
not
the
temporary
convenience
of
the
current
owner
and
what
they
want
and
that
their
lack
of
of
of
clarity
doesn't
add
to
the
case.
B
H
B
You
are
very
correct
that
and
if
we
may,
since
it
is
discussion
that
and
here's
what's
unique,
that
owner
developer
had
the
absolute
opposite
take
on
Duke
they'll,
let
me
do
anything.
I've
had
permission
to
do
this.
We're
like
parking
dog
park,
walk
Park
he's
like
oh
yeah,
Duke.
Doesn't
care
I
got
the
paper
right
here.
I
said.
Show
me
the
paper
and
it
was
like
was
that
Willy
Wonka
or
the
dragon
thing
I
got
the
I
got
to
build
a
sale
right
here.
A
A
G
G
This
is
in
a
commercial
General
feature:
land
use
category,
the
highway
business,
zoning
district-
and
these
are
the
proposed
uses
listed
here.
These
are
all
conditional
uses.
The
applicant
hasn't
proposed
any
permitted
uses
or
any
other
conditional
uses.
This
is
the
range
of
uses
he's
looking
for,
includes
Warehouse
construction,
material
establishments,
Construction
Construction
service
establishments,
landscape
service
establishments,
light
manufacturing
and
wholesale
trade.
G
This
is
a
also
a
site
plan
application,
so
these
uses
would
be
housed
in
three
buildings:
totaling
19825
square
feet
in
size.
There
are
no
Wetland
impacts
associated
with
the
project;
they
have
existing
access
to
North
Pinellas
Avenue.
They
propose
a
stub
out
to
access
Riverview
Avenue
in
the
future,
we'll
see
that's
to
the
south
of
the
property.
That
is
a
county
road
that
stub
out
is
included
in
in
your
site,
plan
approval
tonight
and
then
there's
future
access
to
Dixie
highways
shown
on
the
cycling.
G
G
This
is
showing
the
zoning
context
and
again
you
have
a
mix
of
City,
the
shaded
areas
or
city
in
an
area
with
no
shading
is
County
zoning,
so
this
is
very
close,
actually
adjacent
to
the
site.
You
just
looked
at
the
first
one
with
this
meeting,
so
this
this
area
and
it's
outlined
in
your
staff
report
really
future
land
use
wise
is
slated
to
transition
away
from
residential
in
this
Corridor
would
be
more
commercial
and
mixed.
G
There's
some
residential
office
zoning
over
here
with
the
church,
industrial
restricted,
that's
being
developed
to
a
boat
in
RV
storage
site
up
to
the
Northwest,
there's
a
mix
of
commercial
and
some
residential
here
along
Route
19,
and
then
there's
some
general
business
owning
again.
These
areas
to
the
east
of
the
site
and
on
the
site
actually
are
wetlands
and
there's
some
Wetlands
north
of
the
site
across
Dixie
Highway.
G
This
is
a
just
a
closer
aerial
view
of
the
site.
The
blue,
just
kind
of
outlines
where
that
right-of-way
of
Riverview
Avenue
is
Riverview,
is
not
an
improved
Road.
It's
an
unimproved,
County
right-of-way,
so
that's
located
to
the
South
comes
in
and
butts
up
against.
The
South
property
line
of
the
applicant's
site,
Dixie
Highway,
here
I
shouldn't
well
I-
did
Mark
the
roads.
You
can't
read
it
too
well
Alt
19!
Here
you
can
see
the
existing
access
to
all
19.
G
G
G
G
G
One
characteristic
of
this
access
point
the
the
applicant
has
to
fill
their
the
site
is
filled.
G
The
applicant
will
have
to
bring
the
grade
up
a
little
bit
more
to
accommodate
the
flood
zone,
so
this
finish
grade
will
be
on
the
order
of
about
four
feet
above
adjacent
grade,
so
the
applicant
proposes
to
put
a
retaining
wall
around
the
site
and
we'll
talk
about
that
a
little
more
in
a
minute,
but
there
is
a
significant
grade
difference
here,
so
when
the
applicant
pursues
connection
to
the
county
road,
if
if
they
decide
to
take
advantage
of
that,
they
will
need
to
overcome
this
grade
change
in
a
way
that
doesn't
lose
them
parking.
G
So
that
is
that's
going
to
be
a
challenge
they'll
have
to
address.
At
that
time,
the
proposed
uses
and
we'll
talk
about
this
a
little
more
in
a
minute
we
have
specific
uses
proposed
for
specific
buildings,
so
the
north
building
is
proposed
to
be
the
wholesale
trade
use,
the
middle
building,
the
warehouse
use
in
the
south
building
the
rest
of
the
uses,
the
materials
and
service
establishments
and
the
light
Manufacturing.
G
This
is
the
landscape
plan
showing
where
the
parking
is
buffered
the
parking
lot
and
some
of
the
parking
Landscaping
along
the
road
furnitures.
G
The
applicant
did
not
provide
a
floor
plan,
an
architectural
elevation
he
did
provide
some
photos
of
buildings,
I
believe
a
building
that
he
built
or
some
buildings.
He
built
I
believe
in
Pasco
County.
They
can
address
that
I.
Put
all
the
applicants
pictures
in
the
packet
for
you
just
to
show
what
the
finished
product
will
look
like
staff
have.
Given
you
a
brief
summary
here
of
the
conditional
use.
These
are
all
detailed
in
your
staff
report.
G
To
that
point
into
the
next
Point
staff
does
have
a
concern
with
this
application,
and
that
is
with
the
specific
uses
being
assigned
to
specific
buildings
parking,
primarily
the
parking
and,
to
some
extent
the
trip
generation
is
tied
to
those
uses.
So
the
only
way
to
track
that
the
correct
uses
go
into
the
correct
buildings
now
and
in
the
future
is
through
something
called
the
local
business
tax
receipt
which
we've
talked
about.
You
all
should
be
familiar
with.
G
We
have
written
a
draft
condition
if
you
should,
if
the
board-
and
you
should
recommend
approval-
that
we
would
recommend
this
condition
to
get
these
tenants
into
these
buildings
within
a
year
or
they
would
have
to
come
back
through
the
conditional
use
process
to
go
into
these
buildings.
But
there
is
still
a
concern
about
long-term
future
management
through
local
business
checks
of
the
these
very
specific
uses
in
specific
buildings.
G
You
know
the
compatibility
and
the
appropriateness
of
the
site
the
uses
are
compatible
with
with
the
mix
of
uses
we
just
saw
in
the
area
the
appropriateness
is,
is
really
the
question
here
as
far
as
how
the
applicant
is
trying
to
allow
for
a
wide
range
of
uses
on
a
site
and
how
what
the
management
issues
will
be
for
that
going
forward
for
the
city.
So
that's
probably
the
main
question.
G
It
is
again
the
site
does
have
Wetlands,
there's
a
significant
amount
of
fill
on
the
site
and
there
will
be
more
added,
so
we
have
suggested
a
condition
that
the
applicant
go
ahead,
build
that
retaining
wall
to
full
height,
have
an
inspected
and
finished
before
the
rest
of
the
fill
is
put
on
the
site
and
we're
hoping
that
would
prevent
any
inadvertent
or
kind
of
secondary
impacts
to
Wetlands
on
the
site.
G
As
far
as
the
last
three
criteria
again,
this
this
property
is
served
by
City
facilities.
It
does
seem
to
fulfill
the
intent
for
this
area
and
the
property
it's
again
under
the
commercial,
General,
Highway
business,
future
land
use
and
Zone
and
the
zoning,
so
it
seems
to
meet
those
criteria
for
it's.
Basically,
you
know
on
a
arterial
Corridor,
it's
got
existing
access.
It's
well
buffered
from
the
residential
is
probably
at
its
closest
point,
700
feet
away,
but
that
it's
that
closest
one
is
that
Nature's
preserve
subdivision
that
I
mentioned
in
the
last
application.
G
So
it's
it's
pretty
suitable
for
these
for
commercial
uses.
As
far
as
the
site
plan
goes,
the
project
again
complies
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
with
the
conditions
suggested
same
with
the
Land
Development
code.
It's
expected
to
be
able
to
comply
with
city
building
codes
and
with
concurrency
management.
The
trip
generation
right
now
is
13
peak
hour
trips.
These
are
because
really
because
of
the
limited
clientele
that
would
be
using
construction
material
construction
service,
so
those
would
be
contractors
coming
up
to
either
rent
equipment
or
buy
some
type
of
equipment,
not
the
general
public.
G
G
G
Overall,
it's
you
know
like
I,
say
it's
a
commercial
site,
it's
appropriate
for
commercial
development,
but
the
applicant
you
know
wanted
to
ask
for
for
this
specific
layout
uses
in
the
configuration.
So
we
have
brought
it
to
hearing
at
the
request
of
the
applicant,
so
we
have
not
oops.
We
have
not
made
a
formal
recommendation
on
this
because
of
our
concerns
with
the
management
of
the
uses,
but
we
have
suggested
some
conditions.
Should
you
decide
to
recommend
approval
three
conditions
of
the
conditional
use
approval?
G
Those
would
be
restricting
the
price
property
to
the
uses,
requested,
restricting
or
prohibiting
storage
of
combustible
materials
and
then
requiring
that
those
uses
be
established
through
the
local
business
tax
receipt
system
within
a
year,
or
they
would
have
to
come
back
to
you
and
at
that
point,
so
the
buildings
would
be
built.
But
then,
at
that
point,
if
someone
had
to
come
back,
it
would
be
similar.
G
You've
seen
these
in
the
past,
where
someone
wants
to
establish
themselves
as
a
tenant,
you
would
just
be
reviewing
the
use
at
that
point,
because
the
site
would
will
have
been
built,
sight-plane
conditions,
no
outdoor
storage,
any
applicants
not
proposing
any
all
the
uses
and
the
activity
you
know,
repairs
those
types
of
things
those
would
all
be
confined
to
inside
the
building.
The
applicant
is
proposing
bicycle
parking
and
that's
just
a
condition
to
meet
code.
Number
four
is
that
the
Dixie
Highway
connection
would
have
to
come
back
through
site
plan
approval
number
five.
G
We
need
Pinellas
County
approval
for
Dixie
Highway
and
for
Riverview
Avenue
connections
and
then
the
retaining
wall
to
be
built
before
the
property
is
filled
and
graded
and
leveled
and
prepped
for
building
number
seven,
that
any
sight
lighting
be
cut
off
fixtures
and
we
would
need
those
to
be
and
to
meet
the
design
requirements
of
the
code.
So
we
would
need
those
with
the
building
permit
application,
the
monument
sign.
We
know
we
don't.
As
you
know,
we
don't
approve
actual
signs
here.
Usually
with
these
the
signs
come
in
separate.
G
G
We
need
an
access
easement
so
that
they
have
a
private
lift
station
proposed.
So
we'll
need
an
emergency
access
easement
in
favor
of
the
city,
and
then,
if
this
project
is
over
a
million
dollars
an
aggregate
value,
they
will
need
to
address
public
art.
There
was
one
response
received
to
public
notice.
This
was
a
neighbor
and
I
believe
I
was
just
talking
with
the
applicant
I.
Believe
I
put
it
in
your
packet
received
it
a
while
ago,
when
this
was
advertised
the
first
time
around
the.
G
This
was
a
resident
of
just
south
of
the
site
and
he
was
complaining
about
an
adjacent
parcel
of
this
showroom,
real
quick
that
is
in
the
county.
It
isn't
not
in
the
incorporated
city,
so
he
was
actually
complaining
about
the
activity
on
this
South
parcel
and
near
use
of
Riverview.
The
gentleman
lives
in
one
of
these
houses
to
the
South
so.
G
This
this
would
be,
you
know,
whatever
activities
he's
complaining
that
would
be
addressed
through
County,
Code
Enforcement
and
as
far
as
the
use
of
Riverview
again,
that
would
be
under
County
purview
when
they
do
come
in
to
connect
this,
we
would
be
looking
for
a
county
approval
to
connect,
and
we
would
also
be
looking
for
the
design
to
connect
the
road.
We're
assuming
the
county
would
would
require
the
road
to
be
improved
to
con,
to
connect
to
it
at
least
paved
in
some
manner.
H
Have
one
right
for
the
start,
the
Dixie
Highway
access,
I,
say:
I,
see
this
says
future
access
not
included
in
this
approval.
G
The
applicant
can
probably
address
that,
probably
because
of
the
Wetland
impacts
and
mitigation
that
would
be
required
and
the
county
approval
that
would
be
required
would
hold
them
up.
Second,.
G
Our
code
requires
changes
or
additions
of
access
to
go
through
full
site
plan,
approval
yeah.
So
without
me,
looking
it
up
real
quick
to
make
sure
so
it
would
have
to
come
back
to
TRC
this
board
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
Thank
you.
A
Typically,
when
we
see
these-
and
it
may
just
be
that
the
applicant
chooses
to
provide
them
in
in
this
applicant
chose
not
to,
but
typically
we
see
actual
building,
elevations,
not
photographs
of
another
building,
and
and
typically
they
give
us
some
at
least
preliminary
floor
plans
showing
us
a
little
more
info
about
what's
going
on
inside.
Is
that
a
requirement,
or
is
that
just
something
that
applicants
generally
do
to
provide
us
with
more
clarity.
G
Yes,
elevations
and
floor
plans
are
a
requirement,
are
on
the
list
of
required
items
to
submit
with
a
site
plan,
but
the
applicant,
and
that's
why
you
know
things
like
that.
We
go
back
and
forth
in
TRC
and
and
at
some
point
we
informed
the
applicant.
You
know
you
know
if
you
want
to
go
to
hearing
we'll
just
advise
the
boards
that
you
declined
to
submit
that
that
required
item.
So
we
have
the
pictures
instead
and
they
indicated
they
didn't
want
to
go
to
hearing.
I
Okay-
oh
sorry,
ladies
I
just
want
to
disclose
that
I
do
know
the
applicant
Mr
mugros
he's
been
doing
my
lawn
and
my
parents
lawn
since
I
can
remember
so
and.
F
Just
for
the
record,
since
this
is
a
quasi-judicial
hearing,
you
can
still
base
your
opinion
on
the
evidence
and
testimony
that's
presented
here
today.
Correct
yes,.
I
All
right,
thank
you,
Pat
are
the
pictures
going
that
were
provided
is
the.
Is
that
going
to
be
the
exact
type
of
building?
That's
going
to
be
this
proposed
on
this
site.
K
G
M
I
have
a
question
Mr
chairman,
based
on
the
fact
that
you
have
three
different
buildings
with
three
different
proposed
uses.
Would
not
the
state
and
or
city
building
codes
dictate
some
specific
Necessities
based
on
those
uses,
whether
it's
increased
safety
depending
upon
what
type
of
materials
are
stored?
M
What
type
of
manufacturing
and
such
generally
there
are
increased
standards
based
on
the
increased
risk
that
a
certain
use
May
propose
so
without
having
those
plans
and
those
plans,
certainly
whether
it's
a
certificate
of
use
or
a
certificate
of
occupancy
when
they're
completed,
that
would
kind
of
specify.
Would
it
not
that
those
uses
would
be
the
only
uses
permitted
in
those
buildings.
G
What
we
were
concerned
about
would
be,
for
example,
we
have
uses
proposed
to
serve
like
I,
said
a
limited
clientele
contractors,
for
example,
but
if
but
but
the
same
setup
could
turn
into
or
could
be
used
for
a,
for
example,
a
retail
rental
facility
I'm,
not
sure,
because
there's
still
public
entering
in
both
instances.
G
So
it
triggers
that's
why
they
had
to
elevate
the
you
know
to
FEMA
flood
zone
and
all
those
things,
but
for
us
for
planning
it
would
that's
what
would
trigger
or
create
a
potential
parking
problem,
for
example,
on
the
site
is
if,
if
we
started
having
more
people,
you
know
for
a
certain
use
that
that
has
a
higher
trip
generation
and
higher
parking,
so
that
use
would
not
be
allowed
through
local
business
tax
firms.
M
Right
and,
and
would
we
not,
then,
if
they
didn't
have
specific
plans
and
and
permit
applications
for
those
buildings?
You
know?
Usually
the
site
plan
comes
after
that,
based
on
that
specification
from
historically
from
what
I'm
used
to
normally
the
the
the
horse
comes
before
the
cart,
and
without
that
it's
kind
of
tough.
You
know
to
to
hold
them
to
that
to
some
degree,
because
you're
approving
something
that
is
not
yet
submitted
to
some
degree.
It's
just
based
on
a
promise.
L
I
I
would
have
to
characterize
the
the
approach
that
they're
taking
is
really
somewhat
speculative.
You
know
they
they
want
to
build
the
buildings
and
then
probably
have
individual
tenant.
You
know
tenant
build
outs
typical
of
more
of,
like
you
know,
we've
seen
like
an
industrial
park
type
of
situation.
L
L
You
know
impact
on
parking,
and
so
it
becomes
a
bit
of
a
it.
Becomes
a
management
issue
just
to
be
aware
of
down
the
road.
So
the
other
sticking
point
really
is
the
fact
that
conditional
use
approval
is
valid
for
one
year
unless
to
get
it
established,
and
if
you
don't
get
it
established,
then
you
lose
it
and
so
then
every
in
then
every
tenant
is
going
to
have
to
come
through
a
conditional
use
process.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
you
get
around
that,
but
it
is
something
to
be
aware
of
in
this.
F
L
It
is
a
conditional
use
on
the
owner,
so
the
owner
itself
will
have
to
have
a
you
know.
As
a
owner
and
operator
of
a
multi-tenant,
you
know.
Building
you
know
a
property
he'll
have
to
have
a
a
local
business
tax
in
it
of
himself,
but
each
individual
tenant
going
in
will
also
have
to
have
a
local
business
tax
receipt
for
for
the
individual
uses
that
that
come
that
come
and
go.
Everybody
has
to
get
one.
L
L
More
than
six
months
it's
got
to
come
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
more
than
a
year.
You
have
to
go
through
the
process
all
over
again,
so
that's
just
the
manage
and
we
have
to
deal
with
that
with
any
conditional
use
in
the
city
or
you
know,
as
they
come
through.
I.
Think
our
concern
with
this
is
everything
on
this
property
is
predicated
on
the
conditional
on
these
specific
conditional
uses,
these
specific
uses
for
the
parking
and
everything.
L
B
G
G
B
Okay,
so
through
the
micro
I'd
like
to
focus
in
on
that
proposed
access
to
the
unimproved
road
that
runs
north
and
south,
that's
now
a
dirt
road
and
that
there's
up
to
a
four
foot
difference
in
existing
height
and
the
height,
that's
going
to
be
there
and
a
retaining
wall.
But
yet
there
is
a
proposal
for
an
access
and
parking
lot,
that's
baked
into
this
site
plan
and
there's
an
acknowledgment
that
there's
hope
that
sometime
in
the
future,
there's
going
to
be
a
connection
to
that
road.
Yes,.
G
G
I,
don't
know
what
the
county
will.
Let
them
do,
for
example,
and
I
don't
know
if
it
could.
You
know
you
can
park
on
a
slope
to
a
certain
degree.
So
without
being
the
engineer
there
they
would
have
to.
You
know,
have
all
their
parking
to
be
able
to
connect.
That's
why
we
would
have
to
one.
B
Things
and
that
small
problem
is
similar
to
the
proposed
access
at
Dixie.
It's
got
its
home,
its
own
set
of
challenges
that
go
with
it
in
the
future,
because
there's
another
retaining
wall
that
runs
along
there.
Yes,
okay,
there
was
a
notation
for
approvals,
a
whole
list
of
approvals
that
had
to
be
done
prior
to
building
permit.
One
of
them
was
Swift
Mud
for
drainage,
but
wouldn't
wouldn't
Swift.
Mud
have
wouldn't
that
be
part
of
the
site
plan
approval.
B
C
C
G
That
list
they
do
have
a
compliant
drainage
plant.
Now
to
your
point,
if
they
come
in
with
a
building
permit
a
Swift
Mud
permit
and
it
changes
the
layout
the
access
that
any
of
these
points
that
kick
it
back
to
you,
then
it's
coming
back
to
you.
So
that's
their
risk
in
not
having
this
with
mud
permit.
Yet,
okay,.
B
And
then,
last
but
not
least,
it
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
unfilled
and
unchecked
boxes
for
this
application.
Is
that
especially
with
the
conditional
use?
Is
that
because
our
process
isn't
strong
enough
or
is
it
just
because
what
the
proposing
is
so
unique
that
it
doesn't
meet
our
our
process?
I.
G
B
A
A
S
I'm
the
engineer
record
for
the
property
project:
Richard
Kelly
11,
1740,
Oak,
Pond,
Court,
Oldsmar,.
F
S
To
clear
up
the
Riverview
questions,
yeah
we
have
whatever
three
or
four
foot
grade
chainsaw
Riverview.
We
have
no
plans
right
now
to
access
Riverview.
S
That
is
something
that
could
happen
in
the
future
if
the
county
develops
the
road
or
if
we
choose
to
develop
a
road
by
expansion,
if
we
expand
property
but
other
than
that,
we
have
no
intention
of
of
ever
connecting
to
Riverview
Dixie,
on
the
other
hand,
is
a
different
matter.
We
do
intend
to
pursue
that.
S
But
the
reason
we're
not
doing
it
right
away
is
because
the
county
process
is
so
long,
not
so
much
for
the
Wetland
impacts
and
the
the
things
that
go
along
with
that
and
the
right-of-way
permitting
is
the
the
easement
process
for
Pinellas.
County
is
at
least
six
months
long
and
they're
going
to
require
an
easement
for
the
for
the
large
drainage
pipes.
S
Swift
Mud
will
be
is,
is
ongoing,
it's
underway.
The
reason
we
don't,
especially
in
the
city
of
Tarpon.
We
don't
submit
that
a
lot
of
times
what
I
like
to
do
is
I,
submit
them
on
the
first
round
of
comments
back
from
the
municipality
is
when
I'll
submit
this
with
my,
but
because
everything
goes
through.
You
know,
planning
the
TRC
planning
and
zoning
and
the
board
there's
ultimately
changes
that
occur
and
that
change
sometimes
it
requires
modification
is
just
an
extra
step.
S
So
that's
the
that's
kind
of
the
theory
behind
that
or
the
way
that
works,
the
the
Pinellas
Avenue
access
is
already
built,
dot
built
that
for
us
when
they
improved
the
road
there,
so
the
drainage
and
the
driveway
is
already
taken
care
of.
For
that
for
the
conditional
uses
we
select
the
conditional
uses
that
that
we
felt
were
appropriate
for
the
property
and
that
we
knew
we
could
meet
parking
with.
For
example,
some
of
the
conditional
uses
are
one
space
per
500
square
feet.
Others
are
up
to
2
000
square
feet.
S
S
But
yes,
it
has
to
be
monitored
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
too
much
one
space
per
500
deuces
in
there,
because
we
wouldn't
have
enough
parking.
If,
if
the
fifth
one
wanted
to
come
in,
we
wouldn't
have
enough
parking
for
that.
Then
we
couldn't,
they
couldn't
go
it's
similar
to
any
strip
center.
That
you
know,
has
a
jewelry
store
or
pawn
shop
or
whatever,
and
then
a
restaurant,
a
dining
establishment.
S
So
it's
kind
of
a
similar
thing
is
that
and
everything's
approved
through
all
the
city
agencies,
drainage,
zoning
fire
and
the
buildings
themselves
will
go
through
the
building
permit.
As
far
as
as
far
as
the
interior
goes,
the
exterior
is
going
to
be,
you
know,
Mike
is
doing
the
the
developer
and
and
owner
operator
here
has
built
those
same
buildings.
Maybe
they'll
be
different
color
but
they're
going
to
look
very
similar
to
what
those
do
the
Interiors
will
generally
all
be
the
same.
S
It
just
has
the
Dividing
Walls
and
as
far
as
what's
being
stored
in
there,
we
have
conditions
about
the
combustible
uses
that
we
can't
have
and
all
that
so
as
far
as
extra
Protections
in
the
buildings,
we
don't
really
expect
that
because
of
of
what
we're
limited
to
be
stored,
there.
A
All
right
seeing
none
we'll
move
to
public
comments.
I,
don't
think,
there's
anybody
here,
but
is
there
any
members
of
the
public
here
to
speak
on
this
item?
A
And
staff
have
any
rebuttal
comments,
none
does
the
applicant.
Have
any
rebuttal
comments,
all
right,
we'll
come
back
to
the
board
for
consideration.
I
need
a
motion
and
a
second
so
that
we
can
discuss.
H
F
B
I
have
a
couple
of
comments:
okay,
I
think
it's
a
an
interesting
and
nice
project
and
I
think
that
what
they
built
and
showed
us
is
attractive.
I'd
really
like
to
thank
staff,
the
entire
staff
for
being
so
foresightful
as
to
see
what
challenges
the
long
term
of
enforcing
this
very
unique
conditional
uses
and
I.
Don't
think,
there's
an
easy
way
out
of
that
box
necessarily-
and
we
also
all
know
human
nature,
giving
10
years
down
the
road
of
the
changes
and
look
I'll
go
by
and
they'll
be
in
oxygen.
A
It
concerns
me
that
we
accepted
an
application
that
was
not
complete
and
that
if
we
do
approve
it
as
an
incomplete
application,
what's
to
keep
everybody
else
from
not
submitting
elevations
and
floor
plans
and
things
in
in
the
similar
situation,
I
mean
it
is
I,
don't
want
to
be
arbitrary,
but
it's
clearly
spelled
out
in
the
ordinance
and
it's
on
that
list
that
everybody
gets
so.
K
I
Yeah
I
I
would
agree
that
it
does
seem
premature
if
there's
I
mean
earlier
was
brought
up
at
the
no
building
plans
and
I
I
think
that's
almost
prejudicial
to
the
applicant
as
well.
If
he
shouldn't
be
here,
why
are
all
of
us
here?
If
that's
not
submitted
it
shouldn't
I,
don't
think
that
they
should
even
have
the
option
to
say
I'd
like
to
go
forward
without
it,
because
again
it's
not
the
project
seems
fine.
H
G
We
don't
really
have
any
specific
regulations
about.
Well,
we
don't
have
any
specific
zoning
criteria
as
to
the
floor
plan
question
really.
It
would
just
help.
You
understand.
What's
proposed,
the
applicant
put
the
height
in
a
number
on
the
site
data
table,
so
we
know
that
the
height
complies.
So
is
that
aspect
of
the
elevation
View?
G
G
It
helps
you
with
what
the
applicant's
trying
to
do
on
site
and
it
helps
us
too
and
again
we
did
hold
it
up
for
quite
a
while
for
that
and
as
to
whether
we
should
have
brought
it
to
hearing
I
guess
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
we
have
anything
more
to
say
about
that,
but
you
know
there
has
to
be
an
action
on
an
application.
G
C
G
A
point
where
it's
kind
of
like,
like
I,
tell
you
guys
all
the
time
they
get
their
kind
of
day
in
court
and
it's
their
risk
to
go
forward
without
it.
A
F
Are
you
taking
evidence
on
this
issue?
So
if
there
was
going
to
be
a
deferment,
preferably
it
would
have
been
asked
for
at
the
beginning
of
the
hearing,
because
you've
already
entered
into
this
process
where
now
you've
taken
evidence
and
testimony
relative
to
what
has
been
submitted
and
part
of
your
purview
is
to.
F
B
While
she
was
looking
we're
in
discussion,
if
there
were
per
se
to
be
more
time,
perhaps
either
the
applicant
or
staff
could
come
up
with
maybe
a
less
vague
way
to
address
that
long-term
conditional
use.
That
just
seems
so
difficult
for
all
the
parties
involved
between
the
building
department
and
then
coming
back
to
us.
It
just
creates
opportunity
for
error
right
for
something
to
be
missed
and
for
things
to
just
get
kind
of
washed
under.
K
K
But
then
again,
are
they
locked,
they're
locking
themselves
into
those
uses
within
those
buildings,
but
then
perhaps
another
applicant,
you
know
we're
questioning.
Well,
what
do
you
intend
to
put
in
this
building
and
they
say
well
I,
don't
know,
but
I
I
was
kind
of
guessing
that
they
were
trying
to
be
proactive
in
a
way,
even
though
they're
they're,
lacking
on
what
I
would
like
to
see
in
this
application,
but
in
a
way
they
were
trying
to
think
forward.
Think
ahead
and
think
that
we
might
want
to
know
what
they're
putting
in
these
buildings.
K
So
I
don't
know
what
everybody
thinks
about
that
or
or
how
we
deal
with
it.
But
I
kind
of
honestly
in
my
naive
way,
I
looked
at
it
and
said:
well,
that's
nice
that
they're
telling
us
exactly
what
they
want
to
do
with
these
yeah.
So
we
have
that
information.
Well,.
A
M
And
I
just
like
to
say
in
the
past,
I've
approved
plans
for
what
we
used
to
call
white
buildings.
They
didn't
have
a
specific
tenant
yet,
but
they
had
a
use
in
mind
and
the
floor
plan
and
the
and
the
divisions
and
partitioning
therein
would
be
based
on
those
type
of
uses
and
whether
or
not
the
tenant
was
a
doctor
or
a
chiropractor
or
a
bank
or
a
restaurant
or
something.
M
Then
you
know
the
The
Standard
Building
Code
applicability
would
apply
to
that
specific
use,
whether
it
be
assembly
or
hazardous
or
or
anything
in
between.
As
far
as
enforcement,
at
least
up
north
we
could
impose
and
and
sometimes
the
the
Department
of
State
would
impose
periodic
inspections
based
on
a
use.
M
So
if
it
was
a
dormitory,
if
it
was
an
apartment
building,
if
it
was
an
assembly
occupancy
or
such
these,
things
would
be
somewhat
mandated
to
the
authority
having
jurisdiction
so
whether
it
be
the
fire
department
or
the
building
superintendent
or
some
some
Authority,
based
on
that
and
based
on
a
specific
time
period,
could
revisit,
could
request
and
and
actually
in
some
cases,
demand
the
visit
for
them
to
continue
that
certificate
of
occupancy
in
that
certificate
of
use.
M
So
I,
don't
know
if
that's
something
that's
ever
been
imposed
here
in
Tarpon
or
in
Pinellas
or
or
in
the
state,
but
it's
certainly
something
that
would
be
possible
and
whether
or
not
it's
by
condition
or
a
by
State
Statute.
You
know
I'll
leave
that
to
to
the
authorities
that
be,
but
that's
something
that
that
I
would
like
to
see
imposed
for
something.
That's
at
this
point
very
vague.
I
And
if
I
could,
let
me
guess
a
recommendation
if
we
can
do
this
on
our
agendas,
if
there
is
an
application
like
this,
that
is
going
forward
based
on
the
applicant's
insistence
with
incomplete.
If
maybe
there
can
be
a
way
that
we
put
that
on
this.
So
then
we
can
not
hear
the
evidence
first
and
maybe
right
so.
F
So
here's
the
way
that
your
rule
reads
and
your
rules
of
procedure.
It
says
in
the
event
a
public
hearing
cannot
be
concluded
at
the
meeting
scheduled.
The
chairperson
Shell
at
such
meeting
continue
said
public
hearing
to
a
date
and
time
certain,
if
possible,
in
the
event
that
an
applicant
has
elected
to
defer
an
item
prior
to
a
meeting.
The
chairperson
shall
first
announce
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
that
such
item
is
deferred.
F
The
chairperson
shall
also
State
the
date
and
time
certain
at
which
such
items
shall
be
considered
if
possible-
and
this
is
important
now
here
too,
because
in
the
event
that
a
board
member
who
was
not
present
for
the
initial
hearing,
you
do
have
a
board
member
who's
not
present
here
today.
He
or
she
shall
only
participate
in
the
discussion
and
decision
making
if,
before
the
continued
hearing,
he
or
she
has
reviewed
a
tape
or
transcript
of
the
prior
meeting.
F
F
So
that's
what
you
have
there.
Your
code
talks
about,
what's
required
for
conditional
uses
which
is
kind
of
laid
out
in
in
you
know
the
materials
from
staff.
I
I
guess
and
like
my
concern,
is
that
I
don't
want
to
vote
no
based
on
it.
I
think
the
actual
content
of
it
just
because
I
feel,
like
it's
just
premature,
so
I
kind
of
want
to
avoid
that
opinion
going
forward
as
advisory,
because
that's
not
really
true
to
my
but
I
also
don't
think
that
we're
quite
at
this
point
where
we
should
be
here
yet.
C
L
That
is,
if
you're
looking
at
Munich
code,
you've
had
a
recent
Amendment
to
the
conditional
use
provisions.
Okay,
it
doesn't
relate
to
site
plans
and
it's
not
codified
yet.
So
that's
why
we're
in
this
predicament
of
these
are
traveling
together.
C
L
The
and
so
it
and
it
specifically
does
state
that
we've
got
a
certain
period
of
time
to
establish
you
know.
So
it's
that's.
That's
why
the
conditions
are
kind
of
Muddy.
Yes,
we
did
the
best
that
we
could
with
structuring
it
to
meet
the
new
conditional
use
criteria
that
which
kind
of
rolled
back
some
things
that
had
changed
in
the
last
few
years.
So
I.
H
F
So
that
that's
where
the
confusion
is
coming
in,
because
the
way
that
what
I'm
reading
in
Muni
code
is
apparently
different
from
the
last
one
and
I'm
going
to
ask
Renee
how
the
the
ordinance
change
reads
that
hasn't
been
codified
yet
and
isn't
on
available
online.
Well,.
F
Under
what
what
is
on
municode,
that
sounds
like
it
would
be
allowed.
However,
what
Renee
said
when
I
read
that
out
is
that
that
specific
portion
has
changed
and,
however,
it
currently
reads
now
is
going
to
be
what's
enforce,
enforce
and
in
effect,
and
we
can't
alter
those
Provisions
so
if
it
says
that
they
have
to
come
as
a
companion
case,
you
know
together
that
staff
brought
it
as
one
item
to
you.
L
So
what
was
removed
under
the
conditional
use
provision,
it
says
all
conditional
uses
shall
be
subject
to
the
following
requirements.
The
second
of
that
is
number
two.
It
says
site
plan
approval,
if
required
in
accordance
with
Section,
with
the
provisions
of
section
210.00
of
this
code.
So
you
you
can't
run
them.
We
used
to
have
what
was
stricken
through
where
there
was
a
second
sentence.
L
That
said,
the
site
plan
and
conditional
use
may
be
approved
separately,
but
the
site
plan
must
be
approved
within
12
months
of
the
conditional
use
approval
that
was
stricken,
so
they
have
to
run
together
now,
if
you've
got
a
site
plan
that
requires
a
conditional
use
that
are
linked.
They
have
to
my
interpretation
and
they
they
have
to
travel
together
as
a
as
a
unit.
L
R
L
Their
their
next
stop,
then,
would
be
to
to
apply
for
site,
Construction
and
building
permits
and
to
the
best
of
our
ability.
We're
going
to
review
I
mean.
Obviously
the
the
placement
of
the
building
should
not
change
the
interior
foot.
The
interior
layouts
are
going
to
be
subject
to
whatever
they
give
us,
and
then
the
you
know
the
elevations.
What
we're
literally
would
would
do
would
be
do
they
look
like
they
substantially
comply
with
these
pictures
that
have
been
given
to
us,
because
that's
what
we
have
to
go
on
so
I
mean
that's.
I
I
F
You
are,
if,
if
you
want,
you
do
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
That's
pending!
Technically,
you
should
be
clearing
that
motion
before
if
you
wanted
to
ask
for
a
different
motion
from
the
board.
So
currently
the
motion-
that's
on
the
floor
is
for
approval
with
the
conditions
and
the
seconds.
But
if
the
maker
of
the
motion
wants
to
withdraw
that
motion
and
the
second
concurs,
then
you
can
reopen
for
additional
questions.
H
Now
can
I
ask
a
question:
go
ahead,
so
you've
heard
it
all
you're.
Listening
to
our
concerns,
drawings,
site
plans,
elevations.
S
It
can
to
me
if
you
ask
me
that
kind
of
falls
into
the
same
thing
as
as
the
Swift,
my
permitting
there's
so
many
changes
to
go
on,
as
you
mentioned,
that
hotel
project
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
same
one
that
I'm
thinking
of
but
I
was
happen
to
be
here
that
night
and
you
maybe
it
was
a
different
board
at
the
time,
but
it
was
planning
and
zoning
I
think
voted
to
cut
off
at
one
floor
of
that
building
of
those
Hotel
buildings.
S
S
If
we
had
drawings,
we
had
architectural
drawings,
everything
you
guys
would
be
looking
at
the
the
elevation
sort
of
like
we
are
now
what
in
those
drawings
would
you
be
looking
at
to
say?
Well,
then,
we
can
approve
this
or.
H
Not
I'm
going
to
answer
that,
for
you,
we
didn't
have
architectural
drawings,
we
had
elevations
drawings,
showing
the
building
showing
its
height,
showing
it's
it's
you
know
designed
it
had.
We
had
a.
We
had
a
shell
of
a
structure
that
we
were
seeing
on
the
drawings
that
gave
us
a
representation
of
what
the
Builder
was
proposing
to
put
on
that
property.
We
didn't
look
at
floor
plans.
H
H
A
For
fortunately,
unfortunately,
you
know
whether
whether
it's
good
or
bad
or
whether
any
of
us
think
it's
good
or
bad,
it's
a
requirement.
It's
in
the
code,
so
the
application
is
incomplete
and
if
that's
wrong,
if
it
shouldn't
be
that
way,
we
need
to
change
the
code.
But
right
now,
that's
the
code.
Rg.
H
H
Those
aren't
on
your
property
right
now,
I
know,
I,
know
you're,
just
giving
us
examples
of
what
they
may
look
like
or
what
it
type
of
structure.
It's
going
to
look.
S
But
as
far
as
the
conditional
uses,
I
think
we're
we're
very
specific,
and
each
of
those
uses
is
specific
by
Nature.
What
can
go
in
in
them,
but
I'm
not
sure
just
take
a
hypothetical.
Would
you
guys
have
been
more
happy
if,
if
we
had
one
conditional
use
say
one
of
the
I,
don't
know
what
the
use
would
be,
but
one
person,
two
thousand
square
foot
parking
thing
and
that
covered
the
whole
site
would
would
that
have
been
something
more
appealing.
M
Not
necessarily
I
I
mean
I'm
used
to
seeing
floor
plans
and
what
floor
plans
do
in
a
lot
of
cases
is
reinforce
the
use
concept.
Yeah
that
you
know
the
is
that
you're
specifying
here
I
mean
you
have
three
different
uses:
three
different
parking
requirements
and
such
so
you're
just
looking
for
additional
evidence
at
least
I
am
that
those
will
be
the
uses
and
I
think
the
staff
would
also
feel
more
comfortable
with
the
site
plan
and
the
parking
requirements
with
that
reinforcement.
M
So
it's
like
I,
said
it's
the
cart
and
the
horse
trick
where
everything
is
kind
of
not
in
the
line
where
it
should
be
or
is
customarily
presented
and
also,
as
the
chairman
indicated,
part
of
their
process
requirement.
So
you
know,
I
would
certainly
feel
better
seeing
more
information.
S
H
H
S
S
S
R
C
F
H
A
L
Thank
you,
Renee
Vincent
planning,
a
zoning
director,
so
returning
this
amendment
to
you
again,
it
has
a
long
and
illustrious
history
here
between
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
So
most
recently
we
had
an
earlier
draft
of
this
ordinance
and
that
was
reviewed
by
the
by
the
board
in
November
28th
of
2022.
L
During
that
meeting,
this
was
for
an
Anna.
This
is
for
amendments
to
the
annexation,
Land
Development
code
requirements.
We
we
reviewed
that
initial
annexation
ordinance
and
the
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
wanted
some
additional
controls
in
place.
That
would
allow
the
a
broader
range
of
topics
to
be
considered
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
when
considering
an
annexation.
So
we
worked
that
into
the
co
into
the
proposed
amendments,
and
then
we
brought
it
back
again
in
February
of
2023
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board.
We
discussed
it
again.
L
There
were
some
additional,
very
minor
edits
which
have
been
incorporated
into
the
final
draft
and
the
ordinance
title
was
also
corrected
to
include
changes
to
section
208.01,
because
that
was
not
in
the
original
ordinance
title.
So,
in
addition
to
those
minor
edits
at
that
planning
and
zoning
board
meeting
in
February,
you
as
a
board
did
recommend
that
the
Board
of
Commissioners
direct
staff
to
explore
the
possibility
of
pursuing
an
interlocal
service
boundary
agreement
and
that
a
common
land
use
map
be
developed
for
the
unincorporated
portion
of
the
city's
planning
area.
L
So
those
are
kind
of
like
separate
recommendations
and
I
will,
whether
you
put
those
as
speak
to
those
again
tonight.
I
will
carry
that
forward
when
this
goes
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
as
recommendations.
But
I
did
want
to
to
reiterate
that.
C
L
Direction
from
that,
I
did
receive
in
February
from
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board.
So
with
that
the
ordinance
has
not
greatly
changed
from
the
the
draft
that
you
saw
in
February.
There
were
a
couple
of
very
minor
wordsmithing
Corrections,
and
that
was
on,
in
other
words,
just
two
find
them
again
on
my
other
draft.
L
L
Oh
hold
on
I'm
sorry,
six
and
208
annexations,
so
the
first
section
there
was
no
changes
in
the
section
six
under
section
two
208
annexations
sub
paragraph
G
six,
we
added
the
word
land
use
to
that
list
of
non-conforming
considerations,
so
we
included
before
just
read
zoning
and
development
patterns.
Now
it
says
zoning
land
use
and
development
patterns,
and
then
we
also
made
of
minor
edit.
L
Oh,
it
was
just
it
was
just
the
ordinance
numbering
in
the
in
the
ordinance
title.
That
was
the
only
other
change.
So
so
we
talked
about
this
pretty
pretty
much
at
length
at
the
last
meeting,
so
I
will
kind
of
stop
and
just
see.
If
there's
any
additional
questions,
we
said
it
was
very
minor
change
from
the
last
from
the
last
review,
a
discussion,
and
so
this
is
for
your
formal
recommendation
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
on
this
item
so
I'm,
sorry,
that
was
a
really
horrible
report
for.
F
A
Seeing
none
and
seeing
no
Publix
to
comment
I
need
a
motion
and
a
second
so
that
we
can
discuss.
H
H
E
H
G
Just
ask.
G
It's
worth
sending
where
we,
as
you
know,
been
asked
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
to
include
all
of
this
information
back
in
these
site
plans,
drainage
reports,
all
that
so
I
tried
bookmarking,
no
PDFs.
Hopefully
that
helped
I,
don't
know
if
you
you
saw
that
but
trying
to
bookmark
each
document.
That's
in
an
application,
so
you
can
jump
to
it
if
you
want
to
skip
the
drainage
okay.
G
So
if
you
need
any
help
on
how
to
use
those,
just
give
us
a
call
or
email
and
then
just
a
reminder,
anybody
who
wants
a
paper
packet,
if
you
could
email
us
ahead
of
time,
that'd
be
great.
We're
going
to
be
still
working
more
and
more
towards
getting
getting
this
all
digital,
so
you'll
be
hearing
more
about
that
in
the
future,
but
maybe
just
give
us
a
heads
up
on
paper
packets,
that's
right!.
A
Well
under
board
comments:
I
just
have
one
quick
thing:
I
just
really
want
to
thank
all
of
the
board
members
for
always
remaining
professional
and
and
always
having
enough
respect
for
one
another
that
even
when
we
disagree,
we
we
can
stay
civil
about
it
and
I
really
appreciate
everyone's
behavior
in
that
regard,
and
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
tonight
or
or
anything
else.
I
just
thought
somebody
needed
to
say
it.