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A
I've
got
6
30
on
call
to
order.
The
March,
20th,
2023,
planning
and
zoning
board
for
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Mr
couscous
is
is
offered
to
lead
us
in
the
Pledge.
B
A
All
right,
the
purpose,
Mission
I,
think
we'll
skip
tonight.
Also
so
we'll
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
have
a
roll
call.
Please.
A
A
All
right-
and
we
have
a
few
changes
to
the
agenda
this
evening-
application
22-9-3
and
22-94
ordinance,
2023-12,
a
conditional
use
approval
and
a
site
plan
approval
for
property
at
1372,
North
Pinellas
Avenue
has
been
deferred
to
a
date,
certain
of
April
17th
and
application.
22
143
ordinance,
202306,
a
rezoning
for
property
at
North,
Highland
1200
feet,
Northeast
of
the
intersection
of
North,
Island
and
Keystone,
is
deferred
to
a
date
to
be
re-advertised.
A
A
D
E
A
That
brings
us
to
application
22-141
a
request
to
re-hear
Future
land
use
map
Amendment
and
to
I'm
sure
the
staff
will
fill
us
in
more
but
to
be
clear,
I
understand
this
tonight
is
only
a
request
to
determine
whether
we
will
re-hear
this
item.
If
we
choose
to
re-hear
it,
it
would
actually
be
reheard
at
the
April
meeting.
So
so
this
is
not
redoing
the
item.
It's
it's
just
to
determine
whether
we
feel
there
are
grounds
to
re-hear
it,
and
if
with
that,
will
the
staff
give
their
report.
G
Yeah
you're
correct
so
at
some
of
you
may
recall
that
last
month
the
February
hearing
we
heard
this
application
number
22-141.
It
was
for
the
Moses
Tucker
Partners
application
for
a
future
land
use
map.
Amendment.
This
property
was
located
at
44098
U.S
Highway
19
North.
They
were
requesting
a
future
land
use
change
from
the
RoR,
which
is
the
residential
office
retail
land
use
category
to
the
CG
commercial
General
category.
At
the
meeting,
the
board
did
a
vote
with
a
vote
of
three
to
two
to
recommend
denial
of
the
application
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
G
Following
that
hearing
staff
did
realize
that
some
of
the
information
regarding
the
current
land
use
category
of
RoR
was
incorrect
in
the
staff
report
in
the
presentation.
The
information
that
was
cited
in
the
presentation
in
the
report
was
actually
the
standards
of
the
residential
office
General
category
rather
than
the
RoR
category.
That's
actually
the
land
use
of
the
property.
This
resulted
in
some
incorrect
use
and
density
and
intensity
allowances
being
presented
for
your
consideration
of
the
application.
G
At
this
time,
the
applicant
is
requesting
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
to
re-hear
the
application
at
the
April
17th
meeting,
with
an
updated
staff
report
and
presentation
that
will
reflect
the
correct
information.
Nation,
the
application
would
have
to
be
re-noticed,
so
we
would
send
out
new
public
notice
to
the
surrounding
property
owners,
and
then
the
applicant
does
understand
that
rehearing
may
or
may
not
yield
a
different
decision
by
the
board.
G
One
thing
to
to
note
is
that,
in
the
event
that
you
all
choose
not
to
rehear
the
application,
it
will
still
move
forward
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
But
what
we
would
do
is
we
would
update
the
staff
report
to
have
the
correct
information,
make
them
aware
of
the
error
and
let
them
know
that
they
came
back
to
the
board,
requesting
a
re-hearing
and
what
your
decision
was.
So
the
application
will
still
move
forward,
but
they
would
like
the
opportunity
to
come
back
before
you
guys
with
some
correct
information.
B
G
Right,
okay,
so
the
CG
category,
what
they're
requesting
that
information
was
correct,
so
everything
that
was
presented
in
the
report
reflecting
the
CG
category,
the
allowed
uses
the
density
intensity.
The
Fourier
ratio
was
correctly
portrayed.
The
difference
was
really
between
the
existing
land
use
category.
So
with
backup
to
the
memo
that
was
provided
in
your
packet,
I
put
the
information
from
the
comprehensive
plan
for
both
of
those
categories.
So
you
could
see
the
difference,
but
just
for
an
you
know,
kind
of
to
generally
go
over
it.
G
The
residential
office
General
category,
which
was
the
incorrect
one,
would
allow
for
15
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
it
allows
a
floor
area
ratio
of
0.40.
The
RoR
category,
which
is
the
correct
land
use
category
and
how
it
is
currently
designated,
allows
for
the
same
15
dual
units
per
acre,
but
it
has
a
lower
floor
area
ratio
of
0.20.
G
B
G
Just
had
different
consideration
for
the
board
as
to
what
they're
currently
allowed
to
have
on
the
property
as
opposed
to
what
they
were
requesting.
So
there
may
have
been
some.
You
know.
Like
I
said
the
Rog
category,
which
was
incorrect
in
the
report,
said
they
really
were
only
allowed
to
have
office
in
residential.
So
when
you're
going
to
the
CG
category,
it
potentially
allowed
a
larger
array
of
uses,
whereas
it
actually
did
allow
for
some
retail
uses
in
their
current
designation.
That
wasn't
reflected
to
you
all
as
a.
G
I
Have
a
question
for
the
attorney:
what
are
the
requirements
that
we're
supposed
to
consider
for
a
request
for
we're
hearing.
D
So
you
technically
actually
don't
have
anything
in
your
rules
that
provides
for
you
all
to
have
a
re-hearing,
so
it
is
largely
in
your
discretion
what
I
looked
at
in
helping
staff
kind
of
determine
how
to
present
this
was
what
the
criteria
is
for.
Actually
what
the
rehearing
is
before
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
Part
of
the
reason
you
all
don't
have
a
mechanism
for
rehearing
is
because
you
make
a
recommendation
and
you're,
not
a
final
decision-making
body.
The
final
decision
making
a
body
for
them
to
appeal
from
is
actually
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
I
And
I:
that's
what
I
assumed,
because
we
were
advisory
because
it
sounds
like
the
decision
was
based
off
of
not
necessarily
the
allowances
that
they
already
had.
I
mean
in
this
case
most
of
the
I
think
my
reasoning
for
the
no
was
that
the
allowances
were
enough
and
that
the
code
was
that
way
for
a
reason,
as
Mr
vesi
explained
so
I
mean
if
this.
I
If
the
original
the
correct
one
actually
already
allowed
more
uses
and
I,
think
that
we
formed
that
we
normally
had
but
I
do
want
to
know
who
recognized
the
mistake.
G
Staff
did
the
next
morning
it
just
it
kind
of
occurred.
I
was
sitting
thinking
about
what
was
presented
and
I
was
going
back
and
forth
and
I
was
like
I,
don't
know
if
that
was
correct,
so
I
double
checked
the
comp
plan,
and
it
was
just
it
was
just
miscided
in
a
staff
report.
So
we
contacted
the
applicant
made
them
aware.
G
The
email
that
was
also
attached
in
the
backup
material
for
tonight's
packet
kind
of
outlined
their
options
and
they
could
have
gone
just
to
the
board
with
update
information,
but
they're
aware
that
the
Border
Commissioners
doesn't
prefer
to
have
new
information
that
you
all
did
not
have
the
opportunity
to
consider.
So
they
chose
to
ask
if
you
would
rehear
the
application.
E
I
I
just
have
a
comment
in
regards
and
thank
you
Ali
and
staff
for
the
transparency
and
the
honesty
and
and
bring
this
forward.
The
only
thing
I
can
think
of
is
that
it
may
have
been
a
little
more
food
for
thought
for
discussion
amongst
us
and
Q
a
with
the
applicant
as
far
as
what
their
options
would
have
been,
that
we
may
have
found
palatable
or
or
not,
I,
don't
know.
E
If
a
re-hearing
is
going
to
change
that
at
all
and,
like
you
said,
the
final
determination
can
be
made
to
the
board.
I
was
hoping
there
was
maybe
an
opportunity
for
compromise
between
the
two
lots
that
were
separated
by
the
easement
for
Duke,
because
you'd
have
residential
impact
on
one
side
and
basically
non-residential
on
the
other
side
and
I
thought.
E
Maybe
a
dialogue
could
be
established
to
kind
of
segregate
those
lots
for
one
to
be
a
little
looser
with
what
they
can
put
there
and
one
a
little
tighter,
and
that
was
something
that
was
mentioned
to
them
on
the
record
that
evening
about
what
could
be
possibly
restricted
on
the
southern
portion
that
abuts
the
residential
lot.
So
those
are
just
my
thoughts
in
regards
I.
B
But
but
but
you
know,
I
I
don't
know
if
that
would
change
the
direction
of
the
vote
of
this
board,
because
you
know
I
think
looking
at
what
they're
trying
to
do
is
expand
the
uses
of
and
I
think
that
was
part
of
the
concern
of
some
of
the
board
members,
and
you
know,
unless
somebody's
saying
look,
I'd
like
to
re-hear
it
because
I
think
there's
an
opportunity.
I,
I
I
just
think
we're
just
wasting
our
time.
A
D
Ultimately,
it
is
discretionary
because
it
the
decision
you
made
was
based
on
incorrect
information,
and
you
should
really
want
to
make
sure
that
you
are
getting
the
correct
information
in
all
your
applications,
whether
it's
from
staff
or
whether
it's
from
an
applicant.
J
B
I
thought
the
information
was
correct
as
to
what
they
were
going
to
what
they
were
requesting.
As
far
as
the
the
change
it
was,
what
the
current
use
is.
B
D
B
D
Well,
when
you
look
at
the
intensity
of
the
uses
that
are
allowed
under
the
RR
yeah
versus
the
the
other
one,
the
one
that
it
actually
has,
it
allows
much
more
intensive
uses
already
so
you're
not
changing
that
much
with
respect
to
compatibility
to.
B
G
The
future
land
use
is
what
they're
looking
at
changing.
So
the
land
use
category
that
we
described
in
the
staff
report
and
in
the
presentation
was
reflecting
a
land
use
category
that
actually
allows
a
much
narrower
amount
of
land
uses.
It
really
restricted
it
more
so
to
the
office
use
and
residential
use,
which
I
think
went
into
a
lot
of
the
considerations
potentially
went
to
a
lot
of
considerations.
The
actual
designation
of
that
property
is
RoR
residential
office
retail,
which
has
a
slightly
more
expanded
use.
G
Yes,
the
CG
category
does
allow
more
than
that,
but
there
was
a
different.
You
know
allowance
that
they
have
today.
So
that's
why
we
felt
that
it
was
important
to
kind
of
make
the
applicant
aware
of
the
error
as
well
as
give
them
the
option
if
they
wanted
to
have
an
opportunity
to
go
before
you
guys
again.
G
E
As
a
quick
confirmation
follow-up,
so
any
new
information
that
the
applicant
decides,
including
what
transpired
with
the
with
the
hearing
here
that
can
be
presented
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
they
would
be
fully
aware
and
could
base
their
decision
on
that.
G
Yeah
and
just
to
follow
up
with
that,
you
know
if
you
choose
or
vote
not
to
have
a
re-hearing
with
the
sport,
we
will
still
also
let
them
know
that
we
made
you
aware
of
the
mistake.
You
considered
your
options
and
made
your
decision,
so
they
would
have
the
full
information
I.
A
The
only
one
comment
I
would
make
about
that,
though,
is
that
in
in
some
past
instances
we
have
not
been
pleased
and
it's
it's
been.
The
the
commission
has
made
a
very
major
effort
and
more
recent
things
to
to
make
sure
that
if
there
was
any
changed
equipment
or
not
equipment
information
that
we
did
re-hear
the
question
and
hear
all
of
that
information,
so
I'm,
not
sure,
but
perhaps
not
rehearing,
it
would
sort
of
be
going
against
what
we've
been
asking
the
the
boc
to
do
well,.
B
Mr
chairman
I
I
would
agree
with
you
normally,
but
in
this
circumstance
the
request
that
they
are
making
is
something
that
was
presented
correctly
and
we
turned
down
that
expansion
under
the
new
if
under
the
new
zone
or
land
use
that
they
wanted
to
add.
The
mistake
was
not
that
the
mistake
was
that
the
existing
land
use
was
a
little
bit
broader
than
the
city
presented,
but
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
change
that
they're
requesting,
and
that's
why
you
know
if
it
was
a
completely
different
understanding
of
what
the
requested
change
would
be.
I
Obviously,
because
the
attorney
explains
it's
discretionary,
but
ultimately
our
decision,
of
course,
is
only
advisory,
so
they
still
have
a
recourse
with
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
but
it
does
seem
like
they're
getting
almost
another.
Try
in
terms
that
judges
tell
us
another
bite
at
the
Apple
that,
because
the
fault
is
not
on
them
and
it's
on
the
staff
and
not
pointing
fingers,
but
I
would
like
to
know
what
has
been
put
in
place
or
the
mistakes
like
this
don't
happen
again.
G
We
we
do
do
you
know,
we
write
reports,
others
in
the
office
review
them,
and
this
was
just
it
was
just
something
that
we
missed,
so
we
definitely
try
and
pay
attention
as
much
as
we
possibly
can,
and
especially
with
this
particular
thing.
That's
now
on
my
radar
again,
so
yes,
we
will
be
double
checking
everything.
E
I
just
have
one
one
last
question,
unfortunately,
for
Council
again,
if
by
chance
we
we
vote
not
to
rehear
in
our
prior
ruling,
stands
and
then
the
Board
of
Commissioners
also
votes
it
down.
Would
the
applicant
then
have
any
grounds
for
some
further
appeal,
based
on
the
fact
that
we
did
not
rehear
or
did
were
not
presented
with
the
factual
information?
At
the
time
of
that
hearing,.
J
D
But
then,
even
if
the
correct
information
is
presented
to
the
board,
they
their
right
of
appeal
then,
is
to
the
Circuit
Court.
They
have
30
days
from
the
day
that
that
decision
is
rendered
to
appeal
that
decision
to
the
Circuit
Court,
as
basically
as
a
final
administrative
action
right.
K
K
However,
I
would
hate
to
get
to
the
board
of
County
Commission
or
the
Board
of
Commissioners
only
to
have
them
send
it
back
to
you,
because
they
want
you
to
hear
it
this
way.
So
I
would
respectfully
ask
you
to
please
rehear
this
application,
not
for
another
bite
at
the
Apple,
but
solely
that
we
have
a
clear
record
that
goes
to
the
commission,
so
that
we
don't
end
up
back
before
you,
regardless.
I
E
B
B
D
Good
evening,
the
matters
before
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
are
quasi-judicial
in
nature
and
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding.
The
board's
function
is
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings,
a
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
This
is
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
the
board.
D
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
arising
from
the
application
and
the
applicable
code
sections
any
and
all
persons
testifying
at
this
hearing
are
required
to
do
so
under
oath.
All
persons
testifying
at
this
hearing
must
give
their
name
address
and
must
indicate
whether
or
not
they
have
been
sworn
for
the
record
prior
to
proceeding
with
their
testimony.
All
testimony
and
questioning
at
this
hearing
must
address
the
matters
that
are
relevant
and
material
to
the
issues
under
consideration
based
on
the
established
criteria.
D
If
any
board
member
has
disclosures
regarding
an
application,
please
make
your
disclosures
on
the
record
at
the
beginning
of
the
hearing
that
would
include
any
ex
parte
Communications
or
any
Declaration
of
voting
conflicts
of
interest.
If
there's
not
a
full
board
present.
At
the
beginning
of
the
hearing,
the
applicant
May
request
a
continuation
to
the
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
of
the
planning
and
zoning
board
for
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
and
for
the
applicant's
information
there
is
not
a
full
board
here
tonight,
so
that
is
that
will
be
in
your
discretion.
D
The
following
is
the
established
procedure,
which
will
be
followed
at
this
hearing.
First
city
staff
will
present
its
testimony
and
evidence
regarding
the
application,
and
then
the
applicant
has
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
cross-examine
staff.
The
applicant
then
has
the
opportunity
to
present
its
Witnesses
and
evidence,
and
the
city
has
the
opportunity
to
cross-examine
the
applicant
and
the
applicant's
witnesses.
D
Then
members
of
the
public,
opposing
or
in
support
of
the
application,
will
be
given
the
opportunity
to
speak
the
time
limits
are
four
minutes
for
each
individual,
the
applicant
and
then
the
city
May
then
present
any
rebuttal,
testimony
and
evidence
in
a
closing
statement.
For
summary,
then,
the
board
will
close
the
public
hearing
for
discussion
and
consideration
of
the
application.
So
at
this
time
anyone
who
will
be
speaking
please
stand
to
receive
the
oath.
A
G
Sure
Allie
Keane
senior
planner
with
the
planning
and
zoning
department.
This
is
under
resolution
number
2023-13
and
I'll
just
recite.
The
resolution
title
it
is.
This
is
a
resolution
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Florida,
approving
application,
number
22-85,
requesting
site
plan,
approval
to
construct
a
2618
square
foot,
drive
through
coffee
shop,
Black,
Rifle,
coffee
on
0.82,
Acres,
more
or
less
located
at
40390
U.S,
Highway,
19
North
and
the
HB
Highway
business
zoning
District,
providing
for
findings
providing
for
conditions
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
G
Okay
again,
this
is
an
application
for
site
plan
approval
for
the
Black
Rifle
coffee
project.
Again,
resolution
number
2023-13:
the
property
is
approximately
0.82
acres
in
size.
The
current
land
use
designation
is
CG
commercial
General,
and
the
current
zoning
designation
is
HB
Highway
business.
The
applicants
are
proposing
to
construct
a
drive-through
coffee
shop
on
the
property.
This
is
a
permitted
use,
buy
right
in
the
highway
business.
Zoning
District
the
site
plan
includes
a
drive-through
Lane
that
would
accommodate
up
to
11
stacking
spaces.
G
It
has
a
small
outdoor
seating
area,
a
on-site
parking
lot
with
39
spaces
which
does
comply
with
the
Land
Development
code
requirements
for
this
proposed
use
and
the
size
of
the
proposed
use.
They
have
provided
a
landscaping
plan
that
does
meet
and
exceed
in
some
aspects:
the
Land
Development
code,
requirements
for
landscaping
and
they're
also
proposing
some
pedestrian
connections
to
the
existing
sidewalk
along
US
19
into
adjacent
properties
which
I'll
touch
on
here
in
a
moment.
Thank
you
again.
The
property
is
located
off
of
U.S
Highway
19..
It's
outlined
in
yellow
here
on
the
screen.
G
All
properties
on
both
sides
of
US
19
are
in
the
HB
Highway
business
zoning
district.
There
is
a
property
to
the
west
of
the
site,
which
is
in
the
MHP
or
the
mobile
home
park.
Zoning
district,
and
that
is
the
existing
Tarpon
Shores
mobile
home
park
to
the
south
of
the
site,
is
the
existing
Tarpon
Shores
Inn
to
the
north
is
BBT
Auto
and
then
across
US
19
there's
a
mixture
of
retail
and
Warehouse
uses
uses.
G
A
look
at
the
proposed
site
plan
I've
highlighted
the
building
location
in
blue.
Just
so
it's
easier
to
see
here
on
the
screen.
They
are
proposing
a
single
access
point
to
US
19
on
the
north
side
of
the
property.
It
is
a
write-in
right
out
only
site,
there's
an
existing
or
drive
access,
there's
an
existing
median
in
US
19
that
prevents
any
sort
of
left-hand
turn
movements
from
this
property.
The
drive-through
Lane
is
located
along
the
back
of
the
property
to
accommodate,
in
this
case
they're
showing
11
stacking
spaces.
G
If
it
does
have
potential
to
accommodate
additional
spaces,
if
necessary,
the
building
is
approximately
2
600
square
feet
in
size.
They
are
proposing
a
small
outdoor
eating
area.
Here
the
outdoor
eating
area
was
also
calculated
in
the
parking
calculation
and
again
they're
providing
39
on-site
spaces
and
I
believe
that
they're
required
38
spaces.
G
They
are
also
it's
a
little
hard
to
see
but
they're,
proposing
some
pedestrian
connections,
shaded
here
and
very
light
orange
to
the
existing
US
19
sidewalk
they're,
providing
a
Ada,
accessible
Crossing
in
connection
to
the
site,
they're
also
proposing
to
have
potential
connections
to
adjacent
properties.
G
G
G
G
One
thing
to
note
is
the
trees
that
they
are
proposing
to
plant
are
larger
than
what
we
would
typically
require
by
the
code
at
the
time
of
planting.
So,
according
to
the
municipal
arborist,
at
the
time
of
planting,
they
will
have
more
sufficient
screening
right
off
the
bat
than
they
would
typically
buy.
The
code.
G
G
G
The
Land
Development
code
requires
that
a
transportation
management
plan
is
provided
for
all
proposed
developments
that
would
generate
more
than
50
new
peak
hour
trips.
This
project
does
generate
that
traffic
amounts,
so
the
applicants
did
provide
a
transportation
management
plan.
The
purpose
of
those
plans
is
to
manage
the
impacts
of
the
proposed
project
on
Transportation
facilities
and
services,
provide
options
for
increasing
Mobility
for
all
different
modes
of
transportation
and
also
to
help
reduce
potentially
single
occupancy
motor
vehicle
trips.
G
We
did
have
the
transportation
management
plan
reviewed
by
our
by
our
staff,
certified
Transportation
planner
and
that
was
found
to
be
sufficient
and
meet
the
standards
of
our
code.
Specifically,
some
of
the
aspects
of
the
project
that
address
the
transportation
impacts
are
one
a
single
point
of
access,
specifically
that
it's
a
write-in
write
out
only
provides
any
sort
of
left-hand
turn
movements
onto
US
19..
G
It
also
has
a
large
entry
radii,
so
it's
a
smoother
transition
in
and
out
of
the
site,
nextly
with
The
Pedestrian
connections
that
they
are
proposing
and
it
provides
opportunities
for
people
in
adjacent
properties
to
get
to
the
site
without
getting
into
a
motor
vehicle,
and
then,
lastly,
staff
would
recommend
the
addition
of
bicycle
parking
on
site.
So
if
the
project
is
proposed,
staff
would
recommend
a
condition
approval
that
they
add
some
bike
racks
on
the
property.
G
These
are
the
review
criteria
for
a
site
plan
number
one
is
the
consistency
with
the
comprehensive
plan
staff
found
that
the
application
is
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
specifically
the
intent
allowed
uses
and
standards
of
the
CG
commercial
General
land
use.
Category
number
two
is
consistency
with
the
Land
Development
code,
again
staff
found
that
the
proposed
project
was
in
compliance
with
the
city's
Land
Development
code
and
it
was
outlined
in
the
staff
report
some
of
the
specific
requirements
that
were
accommodated
on
the
project
number
three
is
the
city's
concurrency
management
system.
G
The
project
can
be
served
by
existing
City
facilities
and
services.
The
proposed
impacts
are
not
expected
to
adversely
affect
the
city's
ability
to
serve
this
development,
as
well
as
the
community
at
large
and
then
further.
The
transportation
management
plan
was
reviewed
by
our
certified
Transportation
planner
and
found
consistent
to
comply
with
the
standards
of
Land
Development
code
and,
lastly,
the
city's
building
codes.
It
is
expected
and
required
to
meet
all
building
codes
with
that
staff
does
recommend
approval
of
resolution
number
2023-13
of
the
proposed
site
plan.
We
do
have
seven
conditions
on
site
or
I'm.
G
Sorry
with
the
approval
recommendation,
the
first
is
that
the
construction
plans
are
consistent
with
the
site
plan
approval
the
second
any
details
for
site
lighting
and
on-site
signage
will
be
provided
with
the
building
permit
to
verify
compliance
with
our
design
standards
in
the
code.
The
third
is
that
the
development
must
comply
with
any
public
art
program
if
the
project
exceeds
one
million
dollars
in
construction
costs.
G
The
fourth
is
the
applicant
shall
provide
a
maintenance
and
sop
for
chamber,
inspection
and
cleaning.
This
is
regarding
their
underground
vaults
for
storm
water.
This
would
be
verified
by
the
public
works
department
during
the
site,
construction
permit
and
that's
just
their
maintenance
plans.
Number
five.
The
existing
fence
along
the
west
property
line
shall
remain
to
provide
additional
buffer
between
the
subject
property
and
the
tarpon
Shores
mobile
home
park.
G
In
the
event
that
the
fence
is
damaged,
it
shall
be
replaced
with
a
six
foot
tall,
opaque
fence
number
six,
a
bicycle
rack:
providing
a
minimum
of
two
spaces
shall
be
provided
on
site
and
will
be
verified
with
a
site
construction
permit
and
then,
lastly,
they
have
one
year
to
apply
for
building
permit.
Otherwise
the
site
plan
approval
will
expire
with
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
B
B
G
B
G
G
J
J
B
Not
to
the
applicant
okay,
the
other,
as
far
as
the
the
the
vehicle
impact
study,
there's
like
three
or
four
Coffee
locations
right
there,
so
it's
actually
going
to
be
vehicle
neutral
because
you're
not
going
to
drive
all
the
19
just
to
get
a
cup
of
coffee.
If
there's
there's
a
Dunkin
Donuts,
there's
a
b
audio
whatever
they
have
a
coffee
shop
there
and
there's
a
few
others.
So
you
know
there.
G
Was
something
that
I
I
meant
to
mention
during
that
slide,
as
well
as
in
the
transportation
management
plan?
They
also
provided
that
they
have
passed
by
capture
and
what
that
means
is
a
lot
of
those
new
trips.
The
trips,
the
new
trips
is
basically
a
calculation
and
a
manual
of
this
type
of
use
and
the
size
of
the
views,
and
it
generates
that
number
based
off
of
different
models,
but
they
also
talked
about
pass
by
capture,
which
means
a
lot
of
their
trips.
G
L
C
B
G
No
I
don't
disagree
with
you,
but
we
we
do
want
to
include
any
sort
of
information.
That's
provided
by
the
applicant
as
a
part
of
the
backup
material.
Some
projects,
like
a
new
development,
has
more
technical
information
that
is
reviewed
by
staff,
but
it's
just
there
for
backup
materials.
It's
entered
into
the
record
like.
A
G
So
what
we,
how
we
try
to
start
just
for
just
general
knowledge,
for
our
staff
reports,
how
we
try
to
structure
them?
Is
you
know
we
put
a
staff
report
together
that
basically
is
summarizing
everything,
that's
in
the
backup
material
and
then
at
the
end
of
our
staff
report
we
always
have
an
attachments
list,
so
something
that
you
might
be
interested
in.
G
You
probably
look
at
that
attachments
list
and
then
say:
okay,
well,
I
want
to
look
at
the
resolution
that
has
the
the
site
plan
that
just
kind
of
gives
you
an
outline
of
what's
all
included.
So
maybe
you
can
kind
of
sift
through
what
you
have
interest
in
and
what
you
don't.
We
also
do
provide
the
staff
presentations
in
there,
which
kind
of
summarizes
that
information
well
in
a
much
more
condensed
manner,
but
I
think
we're
always
open
to
ways
that
we
can
condense
it.
But
I
think
we
have
to
include
all
the
application
materials.
B
I
I
I
mean
the:
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
more
maps
and
I.
Don't
understand
why
we
only
get
to
see
like
one
business
and
then
everything
else
is
under
the
codes,
because
it
makes
it
look
like
on
this
map
that
this
is
Tarpon
Shores
in
is
like
so
far
away
from
MLK,
and
it
is
not,
and
I
would
like
to
see
each
business,
especially
because
it's
such
a
concern,
if
this
is
going
to
be
a
drive-through
coming
off
of
here
and
I,
almost
just
don't
really
think
that
that's
accurate
to
scale.
I
I
We
want
to
I
mean
why
can't
we
see
like
an
actual
image
so
that
we
can
actually
visualize
what
it's
going
to
look
like
I
feel
like
there's
a
lot,
that's
almost
hidden
and
taken
away
from
our
like
decision
making
by
not
actually
seeing,
even
though
we
live
in
the
city,
what
it
would
actually
look
like
you
know
when
these
I
mean
the
numbers
from
a
traffic
study,
don't
really
matter
when
you
can
actually
see
the
distance
on
an
actual
picture
or
a
Google
image.
Yeah.
I
J
G
Is
zooming
out?
This
is
the
site.
This
is
zooming
out
in
the
aerial
photography
from
GIS
that
we
have.
This
is
your
zoning
map.
We
always
try
to
include
your
zoning
map
to
show
you
what
other
properties
in
the
area,
but
but
yes,
we
can,
you
know
we
can
expand
on
certain
aspects,
but
also,
depending
on
certain
type
of
application
requests
is
sometimes
we
include
more
information
or
less
information
depending
on
what
the
application.
G
You
yeah
yeah,
so
the
drive
access
is
on
US
19
so
over
here
that
blue
line
that
you
saw
all
that
was
showing
is
that
there's
an
I
was
trying
to
highlight
that
there's
an
existing
fence
between
the
property
lines
on
the
property
line
between
here
and
here
this
so
on
this
side
of
the
Blue
Line
such
property.
Obviously,
and
then
on
this
side,
is
the
mobile
home
park,
property,
okay,
yeah.
E
I
have
a
quick
question
Ali
if
I
could
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
I'll
probably
pose
the
same
question
to
the
applicant,
but
in
your
professional
opinion
the
fact
that
there's
one
Ingress
in
egress
to
this-
and
yes,
it's
flared
considerably,
but
you
have
people
now
making
a
turn
to
exit.
G
That's
a
really
good
question,
so
in
general,
it's
better
to
have
less
access
points,
especially
going
on
to
a
major
roadway
like.
J
G
The
fewer
access
points
provides
fewer
potential
conflicts
between
traffic
on
the
road
traffic
exiting
pedestrians.
We
also
have
in
our
code
different
separation
requirements
between
driveways,
so
in
this
particular
case
they
may
have
not
been
able
to
meet
the
separation
to
have
a
second
driveway
on
that
site.
We
also
have
a
separation
between
driveways
and
adjacent
sites,
and
we
did
verify
that
they
had
to
have
at
least
30
feet
from
the
edge
of
this
pavement
to
the
property
lines.
They
do
meet
that
separation.
G
A
Having
dealt
with
them
in
the
past,
if
dot
is
extremely
stingy
about
giving
out
curb
Cuts,
they
would
never
allow
a
second
curb
cut
on
this
property.
It's
too
way
too
narrow
and.
G
The
last
thing,
I'll
just
point
out
too,
is
just
for
consideration.
Yes,
the
drive-through
line
does
come
back
out
have
to
exit,
but
this
drive
aisle.
We
require
a
minimum
of
24
feet
in
width,
so
it's
a
fairly
wide
in
some
cases
it's
wider
than
some
two-lane
roads.
So
there
is
some
room.
So
if
cars
are
coming
in,
there's
room
still
for
a
car
to
exit.
E
Yeah
the
reason
I
brought
it
up
is
because
people
have
developed
a
a
habit
of
not
keeping
right
as
office
as
often
as
possible,
and
that
turns
in
are
very
wide.
Like
they're,
the
only
car
and
I'm
just
worried
about
a
you
know,
a
conflict
of
somebody
exiting
and
somebody
entering,
and
not
realizing
that
it
was
also
an
exit.
So
good,
good
answer.
Thank
you.
Bud.
You're
welcome.
A
Seeing
none
does
the
is
the
applicant
president
and
like
to
speak
the
state's
your
name
and
address,
and
then
your
presentation,
Malaya.
H
Storm
we
just
moved
so
I'm
trying
to
remember
the
address.
5404,
Cypress,
Center,
Boulevard,
Tampa,
Florida
and
I
have
been
sworn
in.
I
would
just
like
to
thank
staff
for
their
presentation
and
I
would
agree
with
their
recommendation,
but
I'm
here
for
any
additional
questions
you
may
have
in
regards
to
the
access
I
would
agree
with
her
her
point.
That
fdot
is
very
stingy
with
their
curb
Cuts,
but
the
access
point
is
is
24
feet
in
the
drive
aisle,
but
it
comes
way
larger
than
that.
H
Once
you
get
onto
the
actual
roadway
with
radiuses
of
35
feet,
we
do
have
Florida
drivers
here,
but
I'm
sure
that
that
will
provide
them
a
significant
room
to
make
a
turning
Movement.
We
also
consider
large
truck
routes
for
their
off
hours,
loading,
so
they're
able
to
fit
pretty
large
trucks
wb-57s
through
this
site
as
well.
J
B
I
have
one
Black:
Rifle
is.
E
B
E
Have
one
other
question
it
has
to
do
with
the
design
I'm
assuming
in
that
bottom
left-hand
corner
is
the
point
of
ordering
in
the
menu
board.
H
Yes,
where
you
could
see,
there's
like
a
small
square
above
that.
E
H
E
That
yeah
they
actually
have
numbers,
27
and
28,
I,
think
or
26..
My
only
question
is
the
volume
of
the
respondent
and
the
impact
that
may
have
if
there's
a
mobile
home
or
two
kind
of
close,
and
that's
a
word
about
the
hotel
to
the
South.
That's
kind
of
transient
and
usually
it's
a
little
more
commercially
built,
but
mobile
homes
by
right
are
thinner
and
usually
they're,
denser
closer
together
and
and
closer
to
the
lot
lines.
Is
there
any
way
to
limit
the
responding
volume
when
the
order
is
given?
E
Obviously
we
can't
control
the
public
if
they
want
to
shout
they
want
to
shout
or
or
some
sort
of
buffering
to
to
minimize
that
for
the
for
the
mobile
home
people.
Yes,.
H
Most
definitely
we
can
take
that
into
consideration,
and
that
does
take
into
consideration
when
we
separate
that
ordering
point
from
a
home.
So
you
can
see
it's
not
on
that
back
side
of
the
drive
aisle
which
is
directly
adjacent
to
a
mobile
home.
As
you
can
see,
we
kind
of
slid
it
down
on
the
site,
so
it's
more
closer
to
the
hotel
use
than
it
is
to
those
mobile
homes.
H
We
also
have
the
fencing
and
the
Landscaping
which
helps
significantly,
but
I
can
definitely
speak
with
a
client
about
options
to
reduce
that
volume
and
ordering
and
I
would
State
too,
that
black
rifles
typically
have
shorter
operation
hours
than
you
would
say,
like
a
Starbucks
does,
where
they're
open
much
later
at
night
and
also
way
earlier
in
the
morning.
So.
E
Yeah,
just
just
something
I've
seen
subject
to
complaints
on
previous
commercial
applications,
for
this
type
of
you
know
drive
through
window
ordering
when
there
is
a
residential
component
close
like
that,
and
just
monitoring
would
probably
suffice.
You
know
that
some
of
us
are
a
little
hard
of
hearing,
but
most
of
us
aren't
just
just
to
test
it
out,
maybe
monthly
or
something
like
that.
But
thank
you.
F
B
F
I
H
Yes,
they
have
like
limited
food
sales
and
stuff,
but
the
biggest
thing
that
I've
seen
is
the
difference
is
only
40
of
their
customer
base
actually
comes
through
the
drive-through,
which
all
of
you
know
is
way
different
than
a
Starbucks
which
most
all
of
our
customer
base
comes
through
the
drive
through.
So
they
have
a
lot
of
people
that
sit
in
and
work
out
of
their
coffee
shops
and
it's
more
of
like
a
cafe,
feel
that
allows
for
the
indoor
and
outdoor
seating.
H
A
little
bit
of
a
cup
of
a
cup
of
them,
but
it's
not
like
a
structural
Foundation
to
cover
over
it,
but
they
do
have
like
an
offset
from
the
building
that
that
hangs
over.
That.
H
A
D
B
Condition
with
the
with
the
city's
conditional
conditions,
as
cited.
A
J
D
Fine,
so
everybody
should
have
at
your
place
one
of
these
government
in
the
sunshine
handouts.
It
looks
kind
of
similar
to
the
one
that
I
provided
on
the
quasi-judicial
right.
So
the
first
thing
I
have
on
there
that
I
always
like
to
put
in
these
presentations
is
the
oath
of
office
for
public
officials.
D
D
So
that's
just
sort
of
like
a
forewarning
there,
but
I
like
to
provide
that,
because
it
kind
of
reminds
us,
as
public
officials
what
we
are
actually
doing
here
and
what
our
responsibility
is
to
the
public,
because
we
do
have
a
responsibility
to
the
public
you're
here
to
uphold
the
Constitution
you're
here
to
uphold
the
city
Charter
and
the
code
of
ordinances
that
are
put
in
place
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
D
There's
three
basic
requirements
for
the
Sunshine
Law
first
is
that
the
meetings
must
be
open
to
the
public
two.
There
must
be
reasonable
notice
of
such
meetings,
and
three
minutes
must
be
taken
at
all
such
meetings
and
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
each
one
of
those
requirements
means.
But
first
I
want
to
talk
about
what
actually
constitutes
a
meeting,
because
a
lot
of
people
think
that
a
meeting
is
like
this
sort
of
scenario
where
you
know
we're
here
on
the
dice.
D
We're
talking
we're
all
together,
but
a
meeting
for
the
purposes
of
Sunshine
Law
is
any
formal
or
informal
Gathering
of
just
two
of
you
or
more
so
that
can
be
in
person
that
can
be
on
the
phone
that
can
be
via
the
internet.
All
of
those
constitute
meetings
under
the
sunshine
lawn,
there's
extensive
case
law
and
opinions
from
the
Attorney
General's
office
that
talk
about
that
and
go
through
different
scenarios
that
have
kind
of
developed,
since
even
just
the
current
constitution
was
put
in
place.
D
But
so
those
conversations
it's
not
that
you
cannot
be
around
your
other
board
members.
But
what
you
cannot
do
is
discuss
matters
that
may
come
before
you
in
your
official
capacity
as
a
board
member
here.
So
those
are
the
those
are
ultimately
the
discussions
that
are
prohibited
and
I
would
also
emphasize
too
that
it
is
people
of
the
same
board.
So
you
are
only
Bound
by
that
for
the
people
that
are
on
this
board.
You
can
talk
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
however,
because
your
decisions
are
quasi-judicial.
D
If
you
do
talk
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
about
decisions
you
make
here
or
cases
that
come
up
ultimately,
what
that
does
is
then
cause
that
commissioner,
to
have
to
make
a
declaration
when
this
matter
comes
before
them
that
they
had
ex
parte
Communications.
So
for
that
reason
on
this
particular
board,
it's
probably
better.
If
you
don't
talk
about
the
cases
that
you
hear
to
sitting
Commissioners
that
are
then
going
to
have
to
make
that
disclosure
on
the
record
also
to
a
writing
and
a
lot
of
times.
D
This
has
been
presented
in
the
past
as
a
position
paper
and
they
have
something
that's
referred
to
sort
of
as
the
one
bite
at
the
Apple
one
bite
at
the
Apple
rule
right,
and
that
means
that,
let's
say
there's
something
coming
up
and
you
wanted
for
whatever
reason
to
make
your.
You
know
your
position
known
on
this
to
your
fellow
board
members,
so
you
put
together
a
memorandum
and
then
email
it
out
to
all
the
the
commission
right.
D
First
of
all,
again
because
you
know
you
are
predominantly
a
quasi-judicial
board,
you're
putting
you
know,
there
could
be
an
issue
there
with
putting
that
position
out,
but
if
you're
just
doing
it,
based
on
like
legislative
action,
you
can
do
that.
It's
not
a
direct
violation
where
the
violation
then
comes
in
is,
if
there's
discourse.
So
if
one
of
you
puts
something
out
there
and
then
somebody
else
starts
commenting
on
it
like
on
Facebook
or
on
a
message
board,
or
something
like
that.
D
That's
where
you're
going
to
get
into
the
Sunshine
Law
violation,
because
that's
creating
discourse
outside
of
the
public
meeting
on
a
matter.
That's
subject
to
your
your
ultimate
decision
right,
also,
telephone
conversations,
text,
messages,
all
of
those
can
be
grounds
or
basis
to
have
a
Sunshine,
Law
violation,
any
type
of
communication.
It
doesn't
really
matter
what
it
is,
can
constitute
a
meeting
for
the
purposes
of
Sunshine
Law
and
then
become
a
Sunshine
Law
violation.
D
So
when
we
talk
about
open
to
the
public,
there's
a
couple
different
things
that
that
the
Attorney
General's
office
looks
at
and
that
you
know
a
court
would
look
at
in
turn.
In
terms
of
determining
whether
or
not
there
is
a
sunshine
law
issue-
and
that
is
whether
or
not
your
facilities
are
adequate
right,
so
if
you
know
you
guys
have
a
huge
room
in
here,
so
I
can't
really
see
a
scenario
where
you're
going
to
have
to
move
from
from
somewhere.
J
D
Epicenter
or
like
the
Largo
Public
Library
in
order
to
accommodate
accommodate
the
anticipated
crowds
that
we're
going
to
attend
so
I,
don't
really
think
you
have
to
worry
about
that,
but
open
to
the
public.
This
is
where
they
come
down
on
the
audible
discussions,
and
that
has
been
something
that
I've
seen
in
multiple
jurisdictions
as
of
late,
where
board
members
are
trying
to
look
at
something
or
make
a
decision
and
they're
talking
to
each
other,
either
away
from
the
microphone
or
in
a
manner
where
the
public
can't
hear
what
they're
discussing
well.
D
That
kind
of
that
is
a
violation
and
kind
of
goes
directly
against
the
purpose
of
the
Sunshine
Law,
where
it's
to
have
those
open
discourses
so
that
the
public
that's
attending
can
hear
so
that
you
can
adequately
get
it
recorded
on
your
video
and
audio.
If
you're
doing
that,
I
will
say
that
video
and
audio
recording
are
not
a
sunshine
law
requirement,
but
it
has
become
the
predominant
practice
of
most
local
governments
these
days.
D
Also
too,
the
public
has
the
right
to
be
heard,
and
that
is
something
that
wasn't
always
explicitly
stated
in
the
Sunshine
Law.
It
was
actually
an
amendment
to
the
statute
in
2011
that
did
require
public
comment
for
any
meeting
where
there
was
going
to
be
an
official
decision
of
the
the
body
or
the
board
that
was
making
the
decision
maker.
The
next
slide.
These
really
aren't
applicable
to
you.
But
these
are
some
examples
of
Sunshine
Law
exemptions.
D
D
You
have
here
the
actual
definition
from
a
state
statute
of
what
a
public
record
is,
but
then
on
the
next
page,
I
kind
of
break
it
down
on
how
they
put
it
in
case
law,
which
is
a
lot
more
digestible
and
it's
what
I
like
to
emphasize
here
is
that
it's
any
material,
so
it
doesn't
matter
what
it
is.
It
doesn't
matter
if
it's
a
video,
it
doesn't
matter.
If
it's
a
phone
message,
it
doesn't
matter
if
it's
an
audio
recording.
D
It
is
any
material
in
connection
with
official
agency
business,
so
the
official
business
of
your
board
that
is
intended
to
perpetuate,
communicate
or
formalize
knowledge
right.
So
that
includes
social
media
blogs
message
boards.
It
doesn't
matter
if
you're
posting
things
that
are
specific
to
your
relationship
to
the
city
and
your
role
as
a
board
member.
D
All
of
that
will
constitute
a
public
record
and
you
are
charged
as
the
custodian
of
that
record
with
preserving
it
in
the
manner
that's
provided
by
state
law
right
and
basically
in
order
to
there's
actually
procedures
that
have
to
be
followed
when
you
are
destroying
a
public
record
and
there's
a
retention
schedule
that
talks
about
the
nature
of
the
record
and
then
how
long
you're
required
by
law
to
keep
that
record.
D
And
then,
when
you
do
dispose
of
it,
there's
a
reporting
requirement
that,
then
you
have
to
report
the
destruction
of
that
record
and
and
to
the
Department
of
State.
So
that's
kind
of
how
public
records
work
a
lot
of
times
that
gets
overlooked,
particularly
with
social
media,
usually
best
practices.
If
you
are
going
to
be
posting
things
with
respect
to
your
official
business
with
the
city
to
retain
that
in
some
Manner
and
then,
if
you
ever
do
leave
office,
then
to
give
that
to
the
city
clerk.
D
So
the
city
then
does
have
that
record
and
they
can
preserve
it
in
the
manner
provided
by
law.
Also
providing
those
records
to
the
city
clerk
helps
them
do
their
job.
So
when
they
do
get
public
records
requests,
they
have
a
mechanism
then
to
go
back
and
check
and
make
sure
that
they're
getting
adequately
all
of
the
records
that
pertain
to
the
records
requests
that
they
are
receiving.
D
So
next
I'm
going
to
get
into
a
little
bit
of
Florida
Florida's
ethics
laws,
so
I
have
their
the
a
public
office
as
a
public
trust.
So
I
like
to
always
emphasize
that
that
is
sort
of
like
the
the
slogan
or
the
moniker
that
you'll
see
for
the
Florida
Commission
on
ethics.
The
public
office
is
a
public
trust.
D
I
did
last
year
publish
an
article
with
stetson's
law
review
that
talks
all
about
recent
changes
that
were
made
to
the
state
constitution
for
both
lobbying
and
abuse
of
power
and
I'm
going
to
go
over
those
in
a
little
bit.
D
So
the
first
one
that
I'm
going
to
talk
about
is
what
recently
went
into
effect,
which
was
the
2018
Constitutional
Amendments
Amendment
12
specifically,
and
this
one
was
passed
by
78.6
of
Florida
voters.
That
is
an
insane
amount.
That's
over
6
million
Florida
voters
that
approved
Amendment
12
in
2018.
It
was
put
forward
during
the
Constitutional
revision
commission
that
specifically
deals
with
abuse
of
public
office
right
and
the
basically
what
it
does
is.
D
It
follows
the
statutory,
a
language
from
misuse
of
official
position
that
has
been
in
in
place
for
decades,
and
it
is
a
little
bit
more
specific,
the
Constitutional
provision,
which
is
usually
more
General
in
this
case.
It's
the
opposite.
The
statutory
provision,
the
statutory
violation,
is
a
lot
more
General
and
the
Constitutional
provision
is
a
lot
more
strict.
That's
because
the
the
penalties
for
violating
the
Constitutional
provision
are
going
to
be
a
lot
more
Hefty
in
there
and
requires
a
little
bit
more
stringent
intent
right.
D
So
one
of
the
things
that
they
did,
that
the
legislation
did
is
it
said
to
the
commission
on
ethics.
You
have
to
give
us
an
outline
of
what
it
means
to
have
a
disproportionate
benefit,
and
basically,
when
you
have
abuse
of
public
position,
what
it
says
is
that
you
cannot
receive
and
nobody
that
is
related
to
you
either
in
terms
of
a
family
member
right
and
then
also
anybody
that
has
a
business
relationship
to
you
cannot
receive
a
disproportionate
benefit
because
of
a
decision
you're
making
by
virtue
of
your
public
office
right.
D
So
you
can't
use
your
public
office
to
benefit
yourself,
to
benefit
your
family
or
to
benefit
family
members,
and
what
the
commission
on
ethics
put
in
place
is
contained
in
the
Florida
administrative
code
and
I
have
the
six
factors
there
that
they
look
at
to
determine
whether
or
not
something
constitutes
a
disproportionate
benefit.
It
talks
about
the
number
of
those
who
benefit
their
connection
to
the
public
official,
the
nature
of
the
benefit,
the
degree
of
the
benefit
and
the
certainty
of
the
outcome.
Yes,.
B
B
D
That,
yes,
so
that
is
actually
one
of
the
situations
where
you
would
have
to
file
a
voting
conflict
of
interest
and
when
and
I
do
have
another
slide
on
that.
But
I'll
talk
about
it
now,
since
it
kind
of
came
up.
So
when
you
have
a
voting
conflict
of
interest,
it
looks
at
whether
or
not
in
it
the
decision
you're,
making
and
yours
to
your
private
benefit
or
the
private
benefit
of
your
specific
family
members
and
how
family
is
defined.
J
D
It's
defined
differently
for
nepotism,
laws,
it's
defined
differently
for
voting
conflicts,
which
makes
it
all
the
more
important.
If
you
know
you
have
a
family
member
that
is
involved
in
an
application
or
has
an
application
coming
before
that
you
get
with
me
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
in
one
of
the
prohibited
classifications,
because
it's
not
always
in-laws,
but
then
sometimes
it's
in-laws.
So
you
have
to
kind
of
look
at
some
of
those
connections
that
are
specific
to
the
situation.
That's
arising.
D
D
and
I
broke
them
into
prohibited
conduct,
voting
conflicts,
prohibited
business
and
Employment
Practices,
and
then
basically
Financial
disclosure
issues
so
under
prohibited
conduct.
Then,
on
the
next
page,
we
have
these
different
categories.
You
have
solicitation
or
acceptance
of
gifts
or
honoraria
unauthorized
compensation.
The
misuse
of
public
position
that
we
kind
of
talked
about,
and
disclosure
or
use
of
certain
information
that
you
receive
only
by
virtue
of
your
status
as
a
board
member
right
with
the
gifts.
D
You
can
never
accept
anything
that
is
being
given
to
you
with
the
intent
to
influence
your
decision,
regardless
of
the
value.
If
you
know
that
what
you're
receiving
is
sort
of
like
a
quid
pro
quo,
then
you
cannot
accept
it.
If
it's
under
25,
then
it's
usually
fine.
You
don't
have
to
do
anything.
Anything
over
a
hundred
dollars
absolutely
has
to
be
reported
and
there's
a
specific
reporting
form
that
has
to
be
filed,
filled
out
and
filed.
D
The
misuse
of
of
public
position
I
talked
about
how
it's
very
specific.
Under
the
state
constitution,
the
way
it's
defined
in
Florida
statute,
it
is
whether
or
not
it
you
or
others
if
you
are
receiving
a
disproportionate
benefit
or
giving
a
disproportionate
benefit
to
others.
By
virtue
of
your
public
position
that
would
constitute
misuse
of
public
position.
D
The
next
one
down
here
prohibited
employment
and
business
practices.
The
Dual
office
holding
so
the
Dual
office
holding,
is
important.
The
threshold
issue
that
you
always
have
to
look
at
for
Dual
office
holding
is
whether
or
not
it
actually
constitutes
an
office
and
because
you
all
predominantly
do
recommendations.
D
There
have
been
opinions
from
the
Attorney
General's
office
that
say
that
this
does
not
constitute
an
office
for
the
purpose
of
the
Dual
office
holding
prohibition
and
the
Constitution,
because
you
are
not
a
final
decision-making
body,
then
doing
obviously
doing
business
with
one's
own
agency.
You
can't
do
business
with
the
city,
while
you're
you're
holding
a
position
on
this
board.
D
Also,
you
cannot
have
a
conflicting
employment
relationship,
so
people
who
work
in
the
city
can't
also
sit
on
boards
because
there's
too
much
of
a
potential
for
conflict
there
and
also
anti-nepticism
you
all
really
don't
do
any
hiring.
You
don't
do
any
appointments,
so
you
don't
really
have
to
worry
about
that
on
this
board.
Here's
the
voting
conflicts,
the
disclosure
form.
Also
too
one
you
have
you
have
their
specific
time
periods,
I!
D
Think
it's
15
days
after
the
actual
thing
you
you
are
required
within
that
time
period
to
to
fill
out
your
your
voting
form
that
says
you're
not
voting
and
to
turn
it
into
the
clerk,
and
then
that
has
to
be
attached
to
the
minutes
of
the
subsequent
meeting
right.
That
says,
you
declared
this
voting
conflict.
Why
you
declared
it
that's
all
part
of
the
form
that
has
to
be
filled
out
and
that
form
is
available
on
the
commission
on
ethics
website.
D
D
You
know
it's
binding
on
everybody
Statewide,
just
not
you
and
then
filing
an
Ethics
complaint.
Anyone
can
file
an
ethics
for
complaint,
any
individual
it
has
to
be
sworn
to.
It
is
required
to
be
notarized,
and
then
they
kind
of
go
through
the
process
of
investigating
whether
or
not
it
constitutes
probable
cause.
So
the
penalties
adopted
I
have
down
here.
D
These
are
just
the
penalties
for
a
violation
of
the
ethics
code
right,
so
it
can
involve
impeachment
removal
from
Office
suspension
from
Office
public
Center
and
reprimand
forfeiture
and
a
civil
penalty
not
to
exceed
ten
thousand
dollars.
There
have
been
movements
in
the
legislature
over
the
past,
I
want
to
say
10
to
20
years
to
increase
that
from
ten
thousand
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
because
there
certainly
are
certain
instances,
particularly
in
the
state
legislature,
where
ten
thousand
dollars
just
really
isn't
a
deterrent
and
then
also
restitution
of
any
pecuniary
benefits.
D
So
if
you
ever
do
anything
that
does
result
in
any
sort
of
financial
windfall,
there
can
be
a
scenario
where
you
do
have
to
repay
that
money,
particularly
if
it
was
money
that
was
do
or
owed
to
the
city.
D
Then
I
have
here
the
penalties
for
violation
of
sunshine
law.
It
is
a
second
degree
misdemeanor
up
to
60
days
in
jail
and
or
a
500
fine.
It
is
pursued
by
the
state
attorney's
office
and
what
it
does
ultimately
is.
It
invalidates
any
action
that
you
took
so
if
there
is
a
finding
that
Sunshine
Law
was
valid
in
that
Sunshine
Law
was
violated.
Whatever
decision
you
made
whether
it
was
a
legislative
decision
or
a
quasi-judicial
decision,
it
will
automatically
invalidate
that
decision.
Then
for
public
records
laws.
You
know
again
a
500
fine.
D
D
Some
of
these
are
actually
kind
of
rare.
You
don't
see
them
enforced
a
lot
and
a
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
the
intent
requirements
right.
So
lawyers
know
that
there's
a
different
Criminal,
Intent
and
you'll
see
some
areas
where
these
particular
Provisions
actually
overlap
with
the
ethics
provisions
and
a
lot
of
that,
whether
it's
pursued
as
a
criminal
violation
under
one
of
these
statutes
or
under
the
ethics
code.
The
ethics
code
tends
to
be
more
civil,
a
civil
action
in
nature
and
more
administrative
versus
some
of
these
other
criminal
acts.
D
When
you
talk
about
things
like
bribery
right,
so
this
first
one
is
false
official
statements.
This
is,
is
anyone
right,
so
this
doesn't
have
to
be
staff.
This
doesn't
have
to
be
somebody
in
connection
with
the
city.
It
is
really
actually
anyone
who
presents
false
statements
in
writing
with
the
intent
to
mislead
a
public
servant
and
the
performance
of
his
or
her
duties.
D
So
this
next
section,
I
have
sort
of
the
definitions
or
actually
I,
know
they're,
very
tiny
there.
Some
of
the
ones
I
highlighted
are
what
a
benefit
actually
means.
What
harm
means?
It's
a
pecuniary
or
other
loss.
It
constitutes
a
harm
right
and
then
there's
what
constitutes
a
public
servant
and
a
public
contract
a
public
contractor.
D
Then
we
have
the
official
misconduct.
This
here
would
be
the
destruction
of
public
records.
A
destruction
of
public
records
would
fall
under
official
misconduct,
so
that
can
be
pursued
criminally.
If
it's
severe
enough,
it's
if
it's
a
severe
enough
violation,
that
is
an
option
that
they
have.
Typically,
you
see
that
more
with
folks
in-house
who
falsify
or
in
some
other
manner
obstruct
access
to
public
documents
or
destroy
public
documents
that
have
public
value.
So
that's
a
pretty
big
violation
there
under
official
misconduct,
then
here
we
have
these.
D
This
is
all
one
section
on
page
15
that
I
had
to
break
up
onto
two
slides,
and
this
is
basically
your
bribery
statute.
You
know
your
quid
pro
quo
for
unlawful
compensation
or
reward
for
official
Behavior.
Also
it
is
a
very
specific
crime
for
anyone
to
threaten
a
public
servant.
So
to
the
extent,
if
anybody
were
ever
to
threaten
a
member
of
this
board
to
make
a
decision
in
one
way
or
another
or
threaten
to
harm
again
that
can
include
a
pecuniary
loss
or
loss
of
business
or
some
other
item
right.
D
That
is
actually
a
very
specific
crime
that
can
be
committed
against
public
officials
also
too.
So
we
have
that
other
one
where
I
talked
about.
If
you
have
special
or
specific
information,
the
disclosure
or
use
of
confidential
information
or
criminal
justice
information.
Again,
that's
not
really
something
that's
going
to
apply
to
your
board,
that's
more
sort
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
about
this,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
that.
D
D
So
when
you
do
that
right,
then
you're
creating
a
public
record
okay.
So
it's
just
important
for
you
to
preserve
that
and
then,
if
people
comment
on
that,
you
are
supposed
to
be
saving
those
comments.
J
D
So
those
are
all
supposed
to
be
preserved
as
part
of
the
public
record.
As
part
of
you
know,
official
business,
you
know
you
are
a
board
member
now,
if,
if
you
were
posting
the
Board
of
Commissioners
agenda,
that's
a
little
bit
different
yeah
you're,
not
on
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
but
you
are
on
this
board.
It.
I
B
Actually,
thanks
for
I
I
do
I,
do
have
a
question
and-
and
you
know
it'll
give
you
the
the
circumstance,
and
maybe
you
know
when
we
had
that
cohatch
coming
in
front
of
us.
B
You
know
I
reached
out
to
some
of
the
business
owners
just
to
basically
to
let
them
know
that
that's
coming
to
for
us
to
look
at
and
it's
important
that
you
show
up
at
a
zoning
meeting
to
express
your
opinions
now.
Obviously,
that's
a
conversation
with
regard
to
something
on
the
agenda,
but
and
I
want
to
address
that
later.
When
we
go.
J
J
D
I
I
It
is
it's
not
in
the
original
training
that
part
of
like
that,
probably
not.
A
All
right
item
10
board
comments.
The
board
members
wish
to
comment.
B
I
do
and
I
actually
had
mentioned
this
when
I
first
walked
in,
and
this
is
actually
not
just.
This
is
not
for
the
board.
This
is
for.
B
If
anybody
out
there
is
listening,
you
know
that
that
we
had
that
and
let's
go
back
to
that
cohatch
again,
because
it's
been
in
the
paper
and
it's
been
a
little
bit
of
controversial
and
the
you
know
it
goes
back
to
that
apartment
complex
when,
when
we
had
a
whole
bunch
of
people
here
that
that
we're
objecting
to
the
development
and
as
a
board,
we
voiced
our
vote
and
I
can't
remember
if
it
was
six
one
or
seven
one
whatever,
but
to
some
degree
the
Board
of
Commissioners
at
that
point
in
time
completely
ignored
our
recommendation.
B
B
It
puts
the
onus
on
us
to
make
their
value
decisions
or
their
objections
and
and-
and
so
you
know,
I
think
apps
in
a
compelling
reason.
You
know
one
of
the
reasons
we
have
this
zoning
board
is
to
give
recommendations
to
the
Commissioners
and
that
the
commissioner
should
absent.
A
compelling
reason
should
hopefully
follow
our
recommendations,
because
that's
why
we're
here?
B
For
otherwise,
we
should
not
even
exist
okay,
if,
if,
if
we're
ignored
and
our
recommendations
consistently
or
I
get
absent
a
compelling
reason,
and
so
the
message
is
to,
if
anybody's
out
there
looking
or
listening
if
you've
got
an
issue
with
something
going
on
in
this
community,
that's
in
front
of
the
zoning
board,
it's
incumbent
upon
you
to
come
and
express
your
concerns,
because
there
are
issues
that
we
could
address
as
far
as
recommendations,
for
example,
you
know
was
there
is:
is
there
a
loading
dock
in
the
back
I,
don't
know,
we've
proved
it,
and
that
was
not
I.
B
Don't
think
that
was
a
requirement,
but
it
could
have
been
somebody
said:
look
how
are
trucks
going
to
get
there
and
deliver?
These
are
things
that
as
residents
especially
business
owners
that
are
affected
again,
come
express
your
thoughts
because
it
helps
us
when
we
come
to
the
decision-making
process
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
say
that.
Thank
you.
A
And
and
building
on
that
when,
when
we
do
look
at
making
further
recommendations
to
the
boc
regarding
things
in
the
ordinance
that
that
we'd
like
to
take
a
new
look
at
or
would
like
them
to
take
a
new
look
at
the
notice
part
of
our
ordinance
is
something
that
I
think.
A
We
definitely
need
to
look
at
because
I
I
know
we
complied
with
the
notice
requirements
in
that
case,
but
I
would
say
that
those
notice
requirements
could
have
certainly
been
stronger
and
we
probably
would
have
had
more
people
here
like
you're
talking
about,
because
there
was
because
of
the
nature
of
the
project
notice.
Wasn't
really
public
notice
wasn't
required
to
speak
of
and
on
something
that
affects
as
many
people
as
that
does
somehow
in
the
future.
We
should
look
for
a
way
to
make
sure
that
those
things
are
noticed.
I
Yeah
I
agree
100
with
with
Merle,
and
a
lot
of
that
I
think
has
been
recognized
by
residents
and
the
business
owners
that
that
they
do
need
to
take
more
responsibility
and
seeing
what's
on
the
agenda
but
and
I
think
they're
understanding
that,
but
at
the
same
time
you
know
the
the
Board
of
Commissioners
is
elected
and
we're
appointed
by
them.
The
staff
I
mean
I,
don't
think
since
I've
been
on
here
has
yet
to
not
approve
something
and
when
they
haven't
approved
it
they
don't
they
just
don't
say
they
don't
prove
it.
I
D
I
I
think
that
part
of,
even
though
we're
not
elected,
we
are
appointed,
and
you
know
we
we
we
live
in
the
city.
We
I'm
not
saying
that
we
are
chosen
to
represent
them,
but
at
the
same
time
we
should
be
putting
the
residents
and
the
business
owners
into
our
consideration.
So
we
can't
just
say:
well,
you
didn't
show
up,
because
we
need
to
be
thinking
of
the
current
climate
and
those
people's
needs
and
their
their
needs.
D
It's
all
it
also
too,
would
be
important,
because
the
staff
does
receive
comments
ahead
of
time
and
I
know
just
from
my
experience
so
far
with
the
city
and
when
they
do
receive
an
email,
a
letter
whatever
it
is,
they
let
you
know
so,
even
if
they
can't
physically
be
here
at
the
meetings,
they
still
have
that
opportunity
to
have
their
voice
heard.
You
know
by
submitting
something
and
writing
that
says
why
they
do
or
do
not
support
or
or
well.
I
And
I
think
a
lot
of
that,
too,
is
a
lot
of
now,
after
that,
since
business
owners
are
reaching
out
to
individual
Commissioners
and
things
like
that
and
I
really
was
hoping,
Renee
or
Pat
was
going
to
be
here
tonight
because
I
wanted
to
discuss.
I
It's
still
unclear
to
me
what
other
than
what
our
city
has
done
like
if
we've
not
requested
an
expert
or
some
kind
of
I
mean
I
know
that
we
bid
a
lot
of
these
things
out,
but
I,
don't
think
that
there
has
been
an
official
parking
analysis
done
by
an
outside
company
and
how
can
we
as
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board,
because
it
comes
up
and
and
things
that
come
to
us?
Can?
How
can
we
help
facilitate
that
to
get
that
done?.
D
So
I
can
sense
your
issue
because
technically
you
as
a
board,
don't
have
the
ability
to
direct
staff.
Only
the
Board
of
Commissioners
can
do
that
so
again,
you're
in
the
position
where
you
have
to
say
hey.
We
think
that
this
is
important
for
you
to
look
at.
We
know
it's
been
an
issue,
please
direct
staff
to
secure
this
or
to.
J
D
This,
so
that's
that's
really
the
best
recourse
you
have
for
something
like
that.
The
other
place,
too,
is
you.
Also
too,
are
the
body
pursuant
to
chapter
163.
That
makes
recommendations
regarding
the
comprehensive
plan
and
looking
at
the
transportation
elements
and
things
like
there,
things
that
are
contained
in
there
to
make
sure
that
what
you're
doing
is
consistent.
That's
another
mechanism,
where
you
can
kind
of
push
that
issue,
because
the
policies
goals
and
objectives,
even
for
something
you
know
like
parking,
can
sometimes
be
reiterated
in
documents
like
that
that
establish
those
goals
for
the
city.
I
Okay,
because
I
know
last
time
there
was
a
motion
made
I.
Think
for
one
of
those
amendments,
because
I
think
right
now
between
all
those
business,
it
seems
like
no
one
knows
who's
core,
whose
ball
I
mean,
which
is
Court.
The
ball
is
in
right
now,
like
we're
waiting
for
your
input,
or
we
did
an
analysis
and
it's
just
kind
of
it's.
G
Can
tell
us
more
about
the
status
of
that
yeah.
There
was
direction
from
the
border
Commissioners
and
the
city
manager
to
pursue
basically
a
parking
study
that
hasn't
been
done
for
downtown.
Now,
there's
been
a
lot
of
development
over
the
past
several
years
since
the
Redevelopment
area
was
established
to
do
that
study
to
determine
if
there
is
a
deficiency
in
parking,
looking
ahead
at
Future
development
and
parking
potential
conflicts.
G
I
E
Well,
just
that
I
I
already
discussed
with
the
mayor
about
the
parking
conditions
and
the
fact
that
he
and
the
board
itself
maybe
need
to
broadcast
that
a
little
more
because
it
seemed
a
lot
of
people
were
not
aware
that
they
were
in
the
process
of
developing
an
RFP.
For
this
parking
study
and
I
believe
the
mayor
said
it
was
22
or
23
years,
since
the
last
one
was
done.
So
they
are,
they
are
moving
forward,
which
is
good
to
know.
E
The
other
thing
I
mentioned
to
him
was-
and
this
came
up
in
in
a
couple
of
hearings
passed
one
with
with
this
board,
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners
was
a
multiple
dwelling
adjacent
to
a
project
that
the
property
owner
was
notified,
but
not
the
residents.
So
it's
always
been
my
suggestion
over
the
the
past
decades
to
send
a
notification
to
the
occupant
current
occupant,
slash
business
owner.
In
addition
to
the
property
owner
and
yeah,
we
can
wind
up
to
be
a
lot
more
postage.
Obviously,
but
the
transparency
is
worth
its
weight
in
gold.
E
D
Sometimes
how
that's
accomplished
if
it's,
because
you
can
kind
of
run
into
the
same
thing
with
Condominiums,
so
it's
kind
of
the
same
scenario
where
they'll
send
it
to
like
the
association,
but
not
to
all
the
people
that
actually
live
in
the
building
right.
One
of
the
ways
that
that
you
can
kind
of
address
that
is
is
the
posting
of
the
property.
Like
a
lot
of
times,
you
see
like
those
big
Billboards
that
we'll.
J
G
So
there's
different
in
Our,
Land,
Development
code
and
codes
that
we
have
there
are
different
public
noticing
requirements
based
on
application
type.
Some
applications
don't
require
posting
the
property
something's
due
some
do
that's
something
that
we're
looking
at
potentially
putting
science
on
it
for
like,
for,
for
instance,
conditional
uses,
don't
require
you
us
to
post
the
property,
but
that's
potentially
something
that
we
can
look
at
changing
the
code
to
post
on
that
property.
G
So
people
that
don't
necessarily
get
noticed
by
the
legal
advertisements
that
go
into
the
paper
to
the
you
know:
physical
mail
notice.
They
still
also
potentially,
could
see
some
things
happening
based
off,
seeing
a
sign
so
there's
different
methods
to
reach
out
to
them.
So
that's
something
that
we're
looking
at
and
that's
been
discussed
and
I.
Think
that
was
also
something
that
the
commission
had
us
and
Renee.
Looking
at.