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Show
6
30
I'll
call
to
order
the
February
27th
meeting
of
the
Tarpon
Springs
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
real
quickly,
just
in
case.
Anybody
in
the
audience
is
out
there.
For
these
items.
Item
number
four:
that's
application,
22
126
for
rezoning
of
property
on
the
south
side
of
Dixie
Highway,
is
deferred
and
will
be
re-advertised.
Also
item
number
five
application:
22
143
ordinance,
2023.06
of
rezoning
of
45.8
Acres
between
North,
Highland
and
Keystone
road
is
also
deferred
to
a
date
specific
of
March
20th
23..
C
D
C
All
right
that
brings
us
to
item
number
two,
our
purpose
and
Mission.
Thank
you
for
attending
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
planning
and
zoning
board
meeting
this
evening.
The
purpose
of
the
board
is
to
conduct
public
hearings
on
the
items
that
come
before
us.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
has
reviewed
the
evidence
in
the
agenda
packet
for
each
item
on
the
agenda
this
evening,
including
the
application
materials
and
the
staff
report.
The
board
will
consider
that
evidence
along
with
any
new
evidence
or
testimony
provided
at
this
public
hearing.
C
The
board
will
consider
all
the
information
provided
at
this
hearing
in
accordance
with
the
quasi-judicial
procedures,
by
which
we're
bound
I'll
ask
the
City
attorney
to
explain
these
quasi-judicial
procedures
at
the
appropriate
time.
This
board
uses
these
procedures
to
judge
whether
the
application
meets
the
intent
of
the
city's
adopted,
comprehensive
plan
and
future
land
use
map
and
whether
the
application
conforms
to
the
cities
currently
adopted.
Land
Development
code
and
Zoning
Atlas.
C
The
board
will
render
a
decision
on
each
item
in
the
form
of
a
recommendation
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
who
will
take
the
final
action
on
the
item?
The
general
hearing
procedure
for
each
item
called
for
by
the
chair
is
as
follows:
staff
presentation,
applicant
presentation,
affected
party
presentation,
public
input,
staff
and
applicant
rebuttal
and
finally
board
motion
discussion
and
vote.
C
Can
we
have
a
roll
call?
Please.
D
C
C
So
then
that
brings
us
to
application
or
item
number
five
application:
22-141
ordinance
202305.
It's
a
future
land
use
map
Amendment
for
approximately
6.71
Acres
at
located
at
44.098
U.S
Highway,
19
North
from
residential
office
retail
land
use
category
to
the
commercial
General
and
preservation
land
use
categories.
C
Could
the
City
attorney
read
the
ordinance
by
title?
Please.
E
Charlie
Keane
senior
planner
with
planning
and
zoning
again.
This
is
this-
is
a
future
land
use
Amendment
application
under
ordinance
number
2023-05,
it's
for
the
property
located
at
44098,
U.S,
Highway,
19
North,
the
current
land
use
on
the
property
is
RoR
residential
office
retail
and
they
are
proposing
a
future
land
use,
designation
of
CG
commercial
General
and
P
preservation.
The
current
zoning
of
the
property
is
HB
Highway
business,
which
is
a
commercial
zoning
District.
The
property
again
is
6.71
acres
in
size.
E
E
The
property
is
outlined
here
in
yellow
it's
a
little
difficult
to
see,
but
right
here
on
the
Pasco
County
Line,
which
is
right
on
the
northern
border
of
the
property.
It
is
off
of
U.S
Highway,
19
North,
the
properties
to
the
north
within
Pasco
County
are
currently
commercial
office
and
Warehouse
uses
across
the
street
of
US.
E
This
is
a
look
at
the
survey
of
the
property.
Again,
it
is
a
vacant
property.
However,
there
is
an
existing
curb
cut
onto
US
19
here.
The
area
shaded
here
in
green
is
the
0.2
acre
of
wetlands
and
again,
this
is
the
area
that
will
be
in
the
P
category.
The
remainder
of
the
site
would
be
within
the
proposed
CG
commercial
General
category.
One
of
the
most
significant
features
on
the
property
is:
there's
an
existing
100
foot
wide
Duke
power
line,
easement,
which
is
the
blue
shaded
area.
E
It
bisects
the
property
in
half
going
east
to
west.
The
presence
of
that
easement
does
provide
some
limitations
for
future
development
of
the
property.
There
are
some
requirements
and
limitations
by
Duke
of
what
can
and
cannot
be
within
the
easement,
and
this
is
for
high
transmission
lines,
potentially.
E
But
again,
with
the
exception
of
that
property,
all
properties
fronting
US
19
are
within
the
mixed-use
categories
of
RoR
And
Rog,
the
property
to
the
west
of
the
site
is
again
in
preservation,
because
it's
a
large
Wetland
area
and
then
looking
outside
of
US
19.
There
are
some
residential
Urban
land
use
when
looking
on
the
north
side
of
US
19.
This
area
kind
of
in
black
is
in
Pasco
County
again,
and
it
is
an
industrial
land
use
category.
E
This
is
looking
at
the
for
Pinellas
county-wide
plan
map.
The
property
again
here
in
the
corner
outlined
in
yellow,
is
located
within
the
retail
and
services
r
s
category.
The
proposed
land
use
amendment
is
consistent
with
that
category
and
would
not
require
any
sort
of
amendment
to
the
county-wide
plan
map.
If
it
is
approved,
this
table
is
looking
at
the
comparison
between
the
current
future
land
use
of
RoR
and
the
proposed
CG
category
of
commercial
General.
E
The
intent
of
the
RO
RoR
category
is
to
allow
and
encourage
a
range
of
complementary
uses
in
close
proximity
to
facilitate
shorter
vehicle
trips
and
alternative
transportation
choices
such
as
walking
and
cycling.
One
significant
aspect
of
the
RR
category
and
all
mixed-use
land
use
categories
in
the
comp
plan
is
that
it
requires
a
mixture
of
uses.
So
there
has
to
be
some
sort
of
residential
component
and
non-residential
component
developed
on
that
site
in
the
future.
E
When
it's
proposed
to
be
developed,
the
applicant
has
indicated
that
the
you
know,
presence
of
the
100
foot
wide
utility
easement,
provides
the
limitations
to
having
residential
on
that
property,
as
well
as
some
inconsistencies
between
its
current
zoning
and
the
land.
Use
designation,
which
I'll
get
into
the
intent
of
the
proposed
CG
category,
is
to
designate
existing
commercial
areas
which
may
be
either
highway
or
commercial
oriented
and
include
uses
varying
degree
of
intensity.
E
The
biggest
difference,
probably
between
these
two
categories,
are
really
outlined
here
in
red
and
those
are
the
uses.
So
just
for
some
Clarity,
the
land
use
categories
provide
generally
what
uses
are
allowed
on
a
property.
The
zoning
categories
or
designations
get
more
specific,
so
what
specific
land
uses
could
be
allowed
in
those
categories?
But
if
you
have
a
land
use,
that's
in
your
zoning
that
might
be
allowed,
but
the
underlying
land
use
category
says
you
can't
do
it.
You
still
can't
do
it,
because
the
comp
plan
will
override
that.
E
So
in
the
r
r
o
r
category
really
allows
for
office
use
residential
public
education,
institutional
and
Community
Gardens.
So
it's
very
limited
in
what
General
Uses
could
be
allowed
in
that
category.
When
looking
at
the
CG
category,
it's
not
set
up
with
primary
and
secondary
uses.
It
just
has
uses
that
are
allowed
with
no
limitation
of
acreage
and
then
uses
that
are
limited
to
a
certain
acreage
allowance.
E
In
this
case,
the
CG
category
allows
for
personal
services,
office
uses
retail
commercial
Transit,
Transient,
Accommodations
wholesale
distribution,
storage
and
Warehouse
commercial
recreation,
research,
development
and
light
manufacturing
within
a
five
acre
maximum
size.
It
would
allow
for
residential
and
institutional
uses.
E
The
other
thing
to
point
out
here
on
this
screen
is
the
maximum
far
the
current
category
allows
for
a
maximum
far
or
floor
area
ratio
of
0.4.
The
CG
category
does
allow
a
slightly
higher
far
of
0.45,
but
it
is
important
to
note
that
the
existing
zoning
of
Highway
business
is
more
restrictive,
so
it
limits
it
back
to
the
0.40.
So
it
is
consistent
with
what
is
currently
allowed.
E
Lastly,
looking
at
the
zoning
considerations
again,
this
property
is
currently
zoned,
HB,
Highway
business
and
again
this
is
where
you
get
into
more
specific
land
uses
that
could
potentially
be
allowed.
In
this
case,
your
generally
allowed
office,
retail
personal
services,
community
services
and
Warehouse
uses
you're
only
allowed
residential
for
multi-family
residential
in
this
category,
and
it
does
require
a
conditional
use
approval.
So
just
to
remember
that
the
current
land
use
category
requires
a
residential
component.
E
If
they
were
to
develop
under
the
current
designation,
they
would
still
have
to
go
through
a
conditional
use
process
to
have
that
residential
component
a
part
of
the
development
when
looking
at
your
review
criteria.
First,
we
looked
at
consistency
with
the
Florida
Statutes.
This
particular
request
does
qualify
as
a
small
scale
development
Amendment
based
on
the
size
of
the
property.
It
also
does
not
require
any
sort
of
text
changes
and
is
not
located
within
an
area
of
critical
concern,
which
is
the
Florida
Keys.
E
We
also
did
review
all
of
the
existing
elements
of
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
their
goals,
objectives
and
policies.
I
did
outline
in
the
staff
report,
as
well
as
put
the
corresponding
reference
numbers
here
on
the
slide
of
applicable
goals,
objectives
and
policies,
but
overall
staff
did
believe
that
the
allowable
uses
densities
and
intensities
of
the
requested
category
was
consistent
with
what's
permitted
in
the
current
zoning
as
well
as
consistent
with.
What's
in
the
surrounding
area.
E
We
also
noted
that
the
proposed
CG
category
does
eliminate
the
requirement
to
have
residential
as
a
part
of
the
future
development,
which
again
is
more
consistent
with
the
development
pattern
of
the
US
19
Corridor
in
this
area.
Lastly,
was
consistency
with
the
county-wide
plan
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
it
does
not
require
an
amendment
to
that
map.
F
I
have
a
few
questions:
I
and
I
want
to
apologize
for
being
late.
I
was
running
staff
today
at
the
sky,
breader,
so
I
look
like
they're
playing
baseball,
but
so
so
I
apologize.
F
So
in
any
event,
it's
not
necessary.
It's
not
a
zoning
change.
It's
an
expansion
of
the
existing
uses,
correct
right.
E
F
E
So
it
well,
it
depends
on
the
use.
So
what
I
I
highlighted
here?
Let's
go
to
the
table
so
really
what
you're,
potentially
approving
or
recommending
approval
of
tonight
is
and
I
apologize.
This
is
very
small
right
now.
These
are
the
uses
generally
that
are
allowed
Fitness
office
residential
education.
E
This
is
what
you
would
open,
potentially
allowing
which
would
extended
to
personal
service
office
support,
uses
retail
commercial,
Transient,
Accommodations
wholesale
distribution
Etc.
E
D
D
E
D
And
then,
of
course,
you
pointed
out
that
big
blue
thing
in
the
center
there,
foreign.
D
D
That's
a
great
segue,
thank
you,
so
Brittany
Park,
which
is
a
fair
to
say
exclusively
residential
and
then
that
this
Northern
piece
as
is
designated
right
now.
It
appears
that
the
intent
of
when
it
was
laid
out
was
that
it
was
to
be
mixed
use
and
that
there
was
to
be
residential
there.
It
seems
natural
and.
D
I
know
you've
answered
it
in
the
I'm
still
working
on
trying
to
put
my
question
together
right
because
I've
seen
your
proposal
is
that
so
do
does
Staff
feel
that
the
parcel
wasn't
zoned
correctly
at
that
time
or
has
a
land
use,
just
the
actual
use
change
that
it
now
needs
to
be.
E
So
it's
not
that
necessarily
zoned
incorrectly
the
highway
business.
Zoning
district
is
compatible
and
consistent
with
RoR,
but
it
does
limit
it
to
more
office
development,
residential
development,
whereas
Highway
business
typically
has
more
of
your
intensive
commercial
uses.
So
it's
not
that
it's
inconsistent
right
now,
but
this
specific
property.
Why
staff
had
a
recommendation
of
approval?
We
do
feel
like
there
are
some
limitations
to
developing
it
with
a
residential
component
based
off
that
Duke
Energy
easement
and
then
access
to
US
19
being
its
only
access,
there's
some
potential
limitations
for
residential
development.
B
B
Adult
entertainment
uses
bowling
alleys,
Business
and
Professional
offices,
Car,
Wash,
Community
assembly,
commercial,
recreational
facilities,
construction
equipment,
sales
and
rental
eating
establishments,
fast
food
sit
down
and
taverns
Emergency
Services
service
facilities,
financial
institutions,
hotels
and
motels.
B
Sorry,
conditional
conditional
uses
that
range
from
all
kinds
of
Commercial
Services
veterinary
clinics,
warehouses,
heavy
duty
or
heavy
Utility
Services
landscape
service,
light
manufacturing,
mini
warehouse,
multi-family
dwellings,
overnight
boarding
day
care
center,
Construction,
Services
construction,
material
establishment,
congregate
care,
Communications,
Towers,
Billards,
arcades
game
rooms.
So
it
sounds
like
some
of
that
is
not
permitted
under
RoR,
but
it
would
be
permitted
under
CG
in
this
particular
zoning
category.
E
Right
right,
so,
when
looking
back
at
this
table
here,
where
it
says
RR
again,
the
general
land
uses,
it
really
limits
it
more
to
business,
professional
offices
and
residential
and
again
some
public
education
facilities
and
institutional.
But
those
are
really
where
it's
limited
to,
so
it
potentially
opens
up
the
property
to
have
options
for
more
retail
development
and
the
commercial
uses
that
are
listed
and
then
just
sort
of
some
clarity
as
well.
So
this
is
a
site
that
has
no
development
whatsoever.
E
So
if
this
goes
through,
the
the
board
would
see
a
site
plan
at
the
time
that
they
have
one
to
propose.
So
you
would
see
a
site
plan
and
we
would
verify
that
it
complies
with
all
the
development
standards
of
the
code,
including
any
sort
of
required
buffers
between
Brittany
Park
and
the
commercial
development
and
Landscaping
requirements
parking.
All
of
that.
So
it
would
come
back
before
the
board
for
site
plan
review.
D
If
I
may
continue
in
go
ahead
and
and
thank
you
and
and
I'm
glad
you
segued
right
into
buffers,
so
we
heard
an
incredibly
long
list
there
and
you
can
read
and
and
and
I
just
want
to
interpret
that
right.
So
the
list
that
is
shown
there
and
on
ours
is
not
comprehensive.
That
the
list
that
was
she
read
is
the
actual
comprehensive
list.
So.
E
D
E
D
Allowed
excellent,
perfect!
Okay,
that's
exactly
where
I
needed
to
be!
Thank
you
so
much
and
so
I'm
going
to
view
this
purely
from
the
Viewpoint
of
those
folks
that
live
along
Brittany
park
right
there.
So,
based
on
what
I
heard,
it
is
possible
that
they
could
have
a
a
materials
distribution
of
Rock
and
they
could
have
and
I'm
sorry
to
pick
on
this
right
now.
They
could
have
an
adult
entertainment
facility
right
up
against
their
back
door.
E
E
D
B
H
Huber
745
Virginia
Street
Dunedin
Florida
good
evening
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
Moses
Tucker
Partners
Ali's
presentation
was
extremely
thorough
and
in
the
backup
to
the
application
we
have
the
report
from
our
expert
planner
Robert
pergolisi
who's
here,
to
make
a
brief
presentation
to
you.
The
reason
we're
here
is
what
Ali
was
explaining
is
there's
a
basic
inconsistency
between
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
Zoning
for
the
property.
So
the
comp
plan
says
we
have
to
have
residential.
H
and
especially
in
that
area
and
where
it
abuts
Pasco
County
and
the
use
is
there
that
it's
much
more
compatible
to
have
this
property
have
a
consistent
zoning
and
comp
plan
designation
of
commercial
General
versus
requiring
residential
in
this
location.
So
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
guys
have
I'm
going
to.
Let
Robert
speak
for
a
few
minutes
from
a
zoning
and
planning
standpoint
of
why
we
believe
that
this
is
the
right
fit
for
that
property.
I
Good
evening
my
name
is
Robert
pergolizzi
I'm,
a
principal
of
the
Gulf
Coast
Consulting
I'm,
an
aicp
certified
planner
and
a
professional
transportation
planner,
and
as
Amy
and
Ali
stated,
you
know
the
sites
the
the
RoR
land
use
requires
residential
and
based
on
the
highly
commercialized
area
that
we're
in
the
fact
that
Brittany
Park
Townhomes
is
the
only
the
only
residential
development.
That's
directly
on
us
19..
I
In
addition,
the
sites
bifurcated
by
a
100
foot
wide
Duke,
Energy,
easement
or
Duke
Energy
right
away,
which
we
would
need
to
get
Duke's
approval
to
do
anything
on
this
site
regarding
that
right-of-way,
as,
as
was
stated
by
Ali
and
and
Amy,
there's
a
compatibility
problem
with
the
res
with
residential
development,
in
that
the
RoR
land
use
requires
residential,
and
that
creates
an
internal
inconsistency
between
the
zoning
and
the
land
use.
I
As
Ali
stated,
you
know
to
the
north,
we've
got
Pasco
County
along
Lewis
Avenue,
that's
got
C2
zoning
and
that's
consistent
with
the
city's
HB
zoning
Pasco
County
C2
zoning
is
like
the
city's
HB
zoning
to
the
South.
We've
got
Brittany
Park,
which
is
the
only
residential
land
use
fronting
19
further
south
of
that
we
got
Furman
Volvo
and
Ferman
Chevrolet.
I
Those
are
in
HP
zoning
and
then,
as
Ali
stated
to
the
east,
we've
got
Caliber
Collision
and
Northern
Tools
with
CPD
zoning
from
our
perspective,
because
the
RoR
land
use
requires
residential
part
as
part
of
the
as
part
of
the
mixed
use
proposal
and
the
fact
that
we've
got
the
Duke
Energy
easement
right
in
the
middle
of
our
property
and
that
we're
on
a
highly
commercialized
Corridor,
that's
dominated
by
retail
commercial
and
office
uses.
We
don't
believe
that
RoR
is
the
proper
land
use.
I
Finally,
from
a
transportation
perspective,
the
change
from
the
RoR
to
the
CG
with
the
preservation
actually
looks
like
a
reduction
in
traffic
using
the
ppcs
trip
generation.
Generalized
trip
generation
trip
generation
figures
and,
in
addition,
the
highway-oriented
businesses
tend
to
have
a
high
degree
of
what
we
call
pass
by
capture
which
reduces
their
traffic
impact
on
the
roadway
system,
whereas
residential
is
100
new
trips
people
leave
in
their
homes,
as
was
stated
earlier,
we
don't
require
the
change
to
CG
on
the
city
level
would
not
require
a
county-wide
land
use.
I
Amendment
public
utilities
are
readily
available
to
the
site.
The
HB
zoning
limits
the
future
development
to
a
0.4
floor
area
ratio,
maximum
Heights
limited
to
30
feet
and,
as
Ali
stated,
we
would
need
to
go
through
site
plan
approval,
which
would
come
back
before
this
board
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners
at
that
time.
I
Finally,
in
Reading
from
your
comp
plan
policy,
2.4.3
of
the
comp
plan
specifies
at
the
CG
land
use
is
to
designate
existing
commercial
areas
which
may
be
either
highway
or
commercial
oriented
and
include
uses
of
varying
degree
and
intensity.
Given
the
location
directly
on
US-19,
it
clearly
meets
the
locational
characteristics
for
the
city's
CG
land
use,
designation
and
the
county-wide
RNs
retail
and
services
designation
for
the
proposal.
I
So
we
believe
the
proposed
amendment
is
appropriate,
given
the
predominantly
commercial
surrounding
uses,
the
frontage
on
US-19,
a
six-lane
major
arterial
through
the
city
and
the
large
Wetland
buffered
to
the
West.
So
with
that,
that
concludes
my
presentation.
Your
staff's
recommended
approval.
We
request
your
approval.
I'll
turn
it
back
to
Amy
for
a
summary
I'm
here
to
answer
questions
too.
F
Gonna
once
I
ask
a
question
of
legal,
then
then
you
might
be
able
to
answer
it.
Okay
and
I
and
I
think
you
know
listening
to
Mr
vesty,
actually
listening
to
all
the
the
permitted
uses.
D
H
F
That
was
the
adult
the
adult
entertainment
use.
If,
if
could
we
are
we
permitted
to
request
a
restrictive
covenant
if
we
that
runs
with
the
land
as
far
as
a
particular
use?
If
we
Grant
this
moving
forward.
F
Know
that,
but
it's
a
permitted
use,
but
but
regardless,
if
a
use
is
permitted,
if
there
is
a
restrictive
covenant
that
runs
with
the
land,
does
that
not
Trump
what
the
what
what
a
permitted
use
would,
regardless,
if
it's
a
permitted
use?
If
there's
a
restrictive
covenant,
you
just
I,
don't
think
you
can
do
it,
and
my
question
to
Legal
is:
could
that
be
conditioned
upon
us
approving
the
expansion
of
the
land
use
to
include
a
restrictive
covenant,
or
is
it
just
blanket
yes
or
no
right.
B
F
J
F
I'm
I,
so
what
I'm?
What
I'm
asking
is?
Let's
say
we
go
to
the
applicant
all
right
and
if
the
applicant
is
willing
to
to
provide
a
restrictive
covenant
with
regard
to
their
that
anybody's
ability,
moving
forward
to
restrict
I
think
a
property
owner
has
a
right
to
to
provide
or
request
a
restrictive
covenant
on
their
property
that
moving
forward.
You
can't
do
that
am
I,
correct
or
no.
E
F
B
Can't
make
them
do
that
and
if
they
do,
it
would
have
to
be
completely
voluntary.
I,
don't
see
that
we
can
I.
F
Know
we
I
know
we
can't
force,
but
you
know
we're
on
we're
on
on
the
record
here
and
so,
if
they're
on
the
record
that
says
this
is
what
we'll
do
you
know?
You
know
you
know
I
have
faith
in
in
in
you
know,
people
abiding
by
their
word
at
least
I
still
do,
but
I
I,
don't
am
I
going
too
far
off
in
left
field.
Here.
G
E
E
Discussing
I
wanted
to
look
up
any
sort
of
location
limitations
for
adult
entertainment
uses,
so
there's
a
whole
section
in
the
code
that
talks
about
that.
This,
the
first
one
very
specifically
states
that
no
adult
business
establishment
may
be
located
within
500
feet
of
any
pre-existing
residential
land
use
property
or
any
portion
of
a
pre-existing
mixed-use
land
use
category
utilized
as
residential,
which
would
be.
F
E
E
C
Are
there
any
further
board
questions
for
the
applicant
first,
okay,
seeing
none,
we
will
call
for
public
comment.
Do
we
have
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak
on
this
item?
Please
approach
the
microphone
and
state
your
name
and
address.
J
We
have
obvious
concerns
with
respect
to
I.
Think
Mr
vessey
pointed
out
most
of
our
concerns.
Honestly,
noise
is
a
big
one.
The
the
barrier
system,
whatever
that
that
happens
to
be,
is
at
the
top
of
our
list
of
of
things
that
we
want
to
be
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
be
involved
in
that
process,
but
as
much
as
we
can
be
involved
in
the
process,
we
want
to
be
involved
in
the
process.
J
The
adult
entertainment
thing
seems
like
that's,
that's
been
sort
of
shot
down
at
this
point,
but
but
there
are
still
concerns
with
with
the
the
change
in
use,
to
the
extent
that
whatever
new
development
is
proposed
to
go
on
that
property
could
be
something
that
you
know
interferes
not
only
with
with
the
noise
and
the
use
of
of
my
client's
property,
but
also
could
affect
the
value
of
their
property.
If
you've
got
some
big
monstrosity
that
goes
up
next
to
them.
J
That's
going
to
be,
you
know,
an
obvious
eyesore
that
these
folks
are
going
to
have
to
look
at
and
live
with
for
for
the
rest
of
their
life.
You
know
when
they
moved
in
there.
This
was
obviously
it's
as
it
is
now.
It's
sort
of
an
empty
lot,
we're
not
saying
that
that
lot
shouldn't
be
developed
just
that
we
want
to.
We
want
to
be
involved,
I,
think
and
as
as
much
as
we
can
be
in
in
the
development
process.
J
C
All
right,
seeing
none
does
staff
have
any
rebuttal
comments.
H
Happy
to
reach
out
to
Mr
gross
and
to
discuss
their
concerns
and
I
do
believe
that
that's
a
more
appropriate
conversation.
Once
we
get
to
the
site
plan
which
they
will,
we
will
have
to
address
buffer
and
nuisance
and
and
the
like,
and
my
guess,
is
that
they
probably
will
be
much
more
favorable
to
the
uses.
We're
going
to
propose
than
the
existing
driving
range
with
the
lights
and
the
balls
and
and.
K
C
C
All
right
that
brings
us
to
board
discussion
then
do
board
members
have
comments.
K
My
main
concern:
whenever
you
have
a
commercial
industrial
type
use,
that's
immediately
adjacent
to
residential
use,
there's
factors
of
impact
that
may
potentially
be
introduced
that
did
not
exist
before
and
don't
exist
when
it's
residential,
residential
or
commercial
or
but
in
commercial.
Usually,
it's
light
dust
smoke
noise
as
the
the
gentleman
brought
up.
K
So
the
these
factors
going
forward
because
of
the
the
lack
of
buffering
on
the
residential
side
I
think
are
the
chief
concern,
certainly
of
the
residents
that
live
there,
but
me
having
known
many
residents
who
did
it
but
commercial
properties
and
having
to
deal
with
their
their
woes
over
decades.
It's
something
that's
Paramount
importance,
so
the
transparency
by
the
applicant
going
forward
I
think,
is
the
really
the
main
concern
about
what
gets
put
there.
K
What
the
operations
consist
of
the
placement
of
specific
items
of
it
and
things
like
that
that
that's
my
concern,
otherwise,
the
compatibility.
Obviously
it
seems
like
the
residential
development.
There
is
kind
of
the
abnormality
and
you
certainly
don't
want
additional
residential
exiting
on
19.
So
you
put
one
thing
to
bed,
but
you
open
up
the
door
for
for
some
other
possibilities.
That
would
need
to
be
addressed
and
mitigated
in
all
likelihood
going
forward.
A
D
Probably
put
good
consideration
into
why
they
zoned
it
in
a
certain
way
to
begin
with
and
if
I'm,
using
zoning
wrong.
So
when
we're
taking
someone
else's
thoughtful
decision
and
we're
revising
it,
that
always
causes
concern
one
to
the
argument
that
there's
industrial
to
the
north
and
that
therefore
we
should
allow
industrial
or
commercial
to
the
South
is
a
creep.
That
I
think
is
a
false
argument
altogether
and-
and
in
fact
I'd
say,
the
opposite
should
be
done.
Is
that
Pascal
can
do
what
they
want
to
do?
D
Three,
the
applicant's,
transitory
current
owner
and
the
current
applicant
is
just
a
moment
in
time
and
that
we
do
now
is
going
to
be
forever
and
and
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
a
good
argument
to
change
this,
because
these
very
polite,
very
well-spoken
people
come
up
and
say
we're
going
to
be
good
owners,
we're
going
to
be
good
Developers.
D
You
know
what
they
may
be,
but
it
could
be
that
they're
only
momentary
and
that
someone
else
is
going
to
come
along
and
not
be
so
nice
and
use
this
change
as
an
opportunity
to
be
frankly
crummy
neighbors
to
the
people.
That
already
are
there,
whom
our
are
our
citizens
right
here
right
now
and
I
think
that
they
hold
more
weight
than
anybody
else.
D
H
D
Why
they
said
it
was
a
mix
because
they
knew
there
was
going
to
be
residential
there,
and
now
we're
going
to
take
that
away
and
say
it's
going
to
be
commercial
General
and
good
luck,
but
it
wouldn't
have.
It
would
have
been
zoned
that
way
to
begin
with,
if
everyone
at
that
point
thought
it
was
a
good
idea,
we've
got
Wetland,
we've
got
residential,
it's
on
the
highway.
We
can
see
that
I
disagree
and
say
it
should
remain
exactly
the
way
it
should.
It
should
remain
as
it
is.
D
C
All
right
that
brings
us
to
item
number
six
on
the
agenda
discussion
items.
This
is
about
proposed
additional
amendments
to
the
annexation
regulations
within
the
code.
Can
we
have
the
staff
presentation
please.
G
Good
evening,
everyone
Renee
Vincent
planning
a
zoning
director.
So
if
you
recall,
we
had
a
huge
list
of
Land
Development
code
amendments
couple
of
comp
plan
amendments
that
we
started.
You
know,
probably
over
a
year
ago,
almost
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
We
brought
those
through
discussion
items
we've
taken
them
through
public
hearings.
G
One
of
those
two
of
those
items
are
still
remain
outstanding.
One
is
the
annex
the
proposed
changes
to
the
annexation,
ordinance
ordinances
within
our
comp
within
our
Land
Development
code
and
then
the
other
one
that
was
kind
of
tabled,
if
you
will,
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
was
on
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area.
G
Land
Development
code
changes,
so
that
eventually
will
be
coming
back
here
for
discussion
as
well,
but
for
tonight,
if
you
recall,
when
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
reviewed
this
proposed
ordinance,
we
we
kind
of
tabled
it
essentially,
because
several
members
of
the
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
wanted
to
have
a
chance
to
revisit
the
language,
most
specifically
really
with
regard
to
broadening
the
board
of
commissioner's
ability
to
deny
a
request
for
annexation.
If
something
is
non-conforming
in
Pinellas
or
would
be
non-conforming
coming
in,
so
what
I've?
G
G
It
would
add
a
six
review
criteria
when
we're
processing
a
request
to
Annex
a
property
into
the
city
of
Tarpon,
and
so
that
that
sixth
condition
that,
based
on
the
discussion
that
I
heard
that
evening
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board,
and
if
I
missed
the
Mark,
we
can
go
through
this
and
and
if
you
need
to
add
or
change
or
want
to
visit
something
else
in
the
ordinance.
G
The
last
time
so
section
20-23
and
our
code
of
ordinances
requires
that
if
a
property
is
going
to
be
developed
and
it's
an
unincorporated
County
and
it's
adjacent
to
the
city
boundary
and
they
do
require
our
utilities
in
order
to
develop
the
property,
we
have
a
requirement
that
that
the
applicant
must
Annex
into
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs,
and
that
has
created
some
some
issues
historically,
and
so
the
the
the
strike
through
underline
that
you
see
here
was
previously
presented
to
this
board
and
it
kind
of
sets
up
a
bifurcation
process
to
allow.
G
We
were
running
into
issues
with.
There
was
no
there's
no
way
to
to
compel
a
property
when
they
must
Annex
whose
rules
take
effect
as
it
goes
through
the
process.
So
we
essentially
developed
this
language
that
says
that
you
have
two
options.
G
So
we
we
bifurcated
the
process
and
that's
what
sections
one
and
two
under
20
20
excuse
me
section
20-23
speaks
to,
and
then
we
have
the
other
sections
of
the
Land
Development
code
that
regard
that
are
the
requirements
of
how
we
Annex
property
and
how
we
review
it.
And
then
that's
where
we've
added
the
additional
review
criteria
for
consideration
and
where
I've
added
the
additional
number
six
to
kind
of
you
know
when
we
have
that
situation
where
a
property
owner
is
elected,
they
you
know
to
develop
an
unincorporated
Tarpon.
G
They
have
to
have
our
utilities.
Then
we,
the
board,
gives
us
that
Latitude.
If
it's
something
that
is
non-conforming
now
with
our
surrounding
and
the
way
I
wrote,
this
was
zoning
and
development
patterns.
Then
the
board
has
the
latitude
to
consider
that
and
whether
or
not
they
Annex
a
property
in
so
I've,
probably
muddied
this
up
a
lot
in
discussion.
So
I'll
stop
and
you
guys
can
ask
questions
just.
F
You
know
one
of
the
concerns
that
we
had
was
you
know
somebody
could
go
through
the
county
process
and
then
then
we're
forced
to
Annex
whether
or
not
it
was
something
that
was
compatible
with
what
we
were
looking
for
right.
We
had
no
choice
and
what
you're
saying
is
under
six.
It
gives
us
a
choice.
G
Yes,
the
board
can
can
take
that
into
consideration
as
to
whether
or
not
we
choose
to
Annex
that
property
or
we
choose
to
let
them
stay
in
unincorporated
County
and
we
collect
the
surcharge
on
the
Water
and
Sewer
Service.
G
F
C
F
Limits
that
allow
us
to
at
least
have
that
ability,
because
you
know
we
may
have
a
nice
land
use
plan
and
right
across
the
street.
You
know
right
outside
the
city's
border.
They
do
something
completely
way
out
of
line
what
we
were
looking
as
far
as
a
comprehensive
plan.
Obviously
there's
nothing.
We
could
do
if
that's,
if
it
kind
of
allowed
them
to
do
that.
F
Didn't
there
wasn't
there
a
discussion
at
from
the
city
to
the
county
level
about
and
I,
don't
know
if
we
had
this
conversation
about
it
about
widening
the
land
use
so
that
the
county
would
would
adopt
the
future,
even
though
they
may
not
be
within
the
city
limits,
but
the
county
would
adopt
or
have
something
consistent
in
the
County's
land
use
plan
that
would
take
in
consideration
what
we
are
trying
to
do
in
Tarpon.
Didn't
we
have
that
discussion.
We.
G
We've
we've
talked
about
that
and
the
I
think
what
you
would
I
think
what
you're,
where
you're
going
is.
We
basically
would
have
similar
or
nearly
identical
land
use
and
Zoning
for
an
area
for
an
area.
That's
within
our
planning
area
boundary.
We
know
it's
going
to
get
annexed
eventually.
Can
we
go
to
the
county
and
say:
will
you
adopt
this
as
your
land
use?
That's
a
process.
We
can
always
I
mean
that's
something
that
we
can.
We
can
ask.
F
We
can't
compel
I
know
we
can't
get
to
hell,
but
I
thought.
That
was
something
we
were
asking
them,
because
we
we
know
that
we're
going
to
be
addicting
certain
properties
in
the
future
as
they
develop.
Okay,
as
we
have
to
provide
utilities
for
these
properties
and
and
so
I
thought
we
and
I
know
I'm
going
a
little
bit
off
tangent
here,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
that
when
we
have
continuity
in
the
city
based
on
our
land
use,
you
know
to
have
something
from
the
county
common
screw
up
that
continuity.
F
G
Going
to
we,
we
talked
about
a
lot
of
things.
A
lot
of
ideas,
I'll
be
honest
with
you,
I,
don't
know
that
I
have
absolute
direction
to
to
to
do
that.
You
know
from
a
from
a
policy
perspective.
G
The
one
thing
I
will
say
is
that
when
we,
when
we
Annex
property
under
our
rules
now
when
we
Annex
property
and
I'll
speak
talking
really
about
land
use,
so
under
the
compre
under
our
zoning
under
our
land
land
use
plan
the
comprehensive
plan
when
we
had
Annex
a
property
in
it,
has
to
come
in
at
the
same
intensity
or
less
unless
they're
actually
processing.
G
You
know
a
land
use
map
amendment
that
goes
to
the
state
and
everything.
So
we
already
have
that
now,
the
The
Zone,
where
it
really
usually
is
the
differences,
is
the
nuances
of
the
zoning.
You
know
an
r100
versus
an
R3
in
the
county
and
you
have
different
setbacks
and
lot
sizes
and
things
of
that
nature.
G
Land
use
is
actually
pretty
consistent
because
we
do
have
the
county-wide
plan
and
the
history
of
how
that's
evolved
over
time.
It's
really
where
the
zoning
is
where
we,
you
start
to
diverge
and
even
that
we're
supposed
to
be
consistent.
But
you
know
a
single
family
residential
to
a
single
family.
Residential
zoning
district
is
generally
going
to
be
deemed
a
consistent
annexation,
but
you
still
get
nuances
where
you
know
changes
in
how
accessory
structures
are
and
setbacks
and
fences,
and
things
like
that.
So
I'm.
G
Density
is
density
assistant,
believe
it
or
not,
from
municipality
to
to
unincorporated,
generally
speaking
because
of
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
fire
up
the
Wayback
machine
for
briefly
here
so
until
2000
and
15..
That's
when
the
last
big
changes
were
made
to
the
county-wide
plan
rules
in
Pinellas,
County,
prior
to
that,
every
municipality
and
unincorporated
County
had
the
exact
same
land
use
designations.
G
G
That
has
somewhat
changed
now,
but
but
it's
the
history
there
of
how
we
got
where
we
are
that
we
don't
really
see
a
lot
of
difference
on
especially
residential
densities,
adjacent
to
for
municipality
to
unincorporated
County.
Now
the
county-wide
plan
rules
have
really
shifted
they're,
just
like
a
ceiling.
Now
you
know
of
threshold
they're,
not
very
applicable
other
than
you
know.
We
still
have
to
comply
with
them,
but
you,
you
know,
there's
not
a
ton
of
there's,
not
a
ton
of
difference
at
the
edges.
G
I'm
sure
they
exist,
but
around
here
and
looking
at
panel
at
tarbon
and
unincorporated
County
they're
not
greatly
different,
but
to
your
point
I
have
no,
you
know
if
I
get
good
policy.
Direction
I
have
no
Qui,
no
problems
going
to
Pinellas,
County
and
saying
hey,
you
know
we're,
you
know
they
know
we're
going
through
our.
You
know
our
comp
plan
update.
G
You
know
how
would
y'all
feel
about
some
sort
of
a
you
know:
interlocal
planning
agreement
for
future
annexations
and
land
use
designations,
and
you
know
we
can.
You
know
obviously
I
mean
I
have
to
have
clear
policy
direction
to
go.
Do
that.
C
That's
on
the
table,
that's
and
that's
the
discussion
we
had
in
the
past,
and
it
was
was
kind
of
that
that
was
going
to
probably
be
difficult
to
do,
to
deal
with
Pinellas
on
that,
but
I
mean
at
some
point.
Pinellas
is
going
to
going
to
want
to
talk
about
something
else.
Probably
that'll
come
up
or
whatever,
and
maybe
there's
an
opportunity
to
to
watch
and
introduce
that,
because
I
think
that's
the
ultimate
solution
to
the
problem.
C
F
You
know
not
that
there
is
there's
an
application
here
for
rezoning,
but
let's
say
they
were:
they
were
not
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
and
it's
it's
45
Acres
they
go
through
the
county
and
there
they
have
a
their
density
is
really
you
know,
just
make
up
numbers
four
to
five
units.
Six
units
per
acre-
and
you
know
part
of
our
land
use
plan-
may
be
four
units
per
acre
or
three
units
per
acre.
F
Okay
and
now
we
have
no
choice,
you
know
or
almost
have
no
choice,
but
you
know
because
that's
that
may
be
outside
of
what
we
are
or
over
a
land
use
plan
made
of
may
have
looked
like
like
we
want
less
density
and
not
everybody
crammed
in
the
shoe
box
construction
and
that's
why
I
I
don't
know
who
gives
you
those
if
that,
if
that's
direction
that
comes
from
this
border
from
the
commission
but
but
I
I,
I,
I,
I,
I'd
really
love
to
see
because
it
it
helps
us
when
we
look
at
annexation
that
there's
compatibility
in
in
our
land
use
and-
and
that's
to
me,
that's
the
thing
that
I
think
has
been
irritating
me
at
least
yeah.
B
Some
of
these
annexations
there
is
a
process
when
you
go
through
your
comprehensive
planned
amendments
and
when
the
county
goes
through
their
comprehensive
plan.
Amendments
where
you
adopt
these
maps
and
adopt
these
types
of
categories,
where
neighboring
and
concurrent
jurisdictions
have
the
opportunity
to
provide
comment
right.
So
in
Pinellas
County
goes
through
their
map
changes
and
and
their
map
designations
relative
to
their
comprehensive
plan.
B
B
H
F
C
A
C
If
I
were
remember
the
situation
correctly,
and
that
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
some
mechanism
to
catch
when
before
they're
bringing
it
to
us
almost
completely
built,
but
when
they
first
go
to
pull
their
building
permit
with
the
county
some
way
for
the
county
to
at
least
say
you
need
to
meet
tarpon's
requirements
as
well.
If
you're
going
to
Annex
into
tarpon.
G
F
G
Exactly
and
that's
something
that
you
know
we
do
work
with
the
county,
you
know
on
you
know
routinely.
You
know
if,
if
there's
a
an
adjacent
property
to
the
city,
boundary
and
and
and
developers
will
density
shop
absolutely-
and
you
know
we
know
that
and
we
coordinate
with
account.
G
You
know
and
I've
seen
it
happen
recently
on
property
for
sale,
just
outside
of
Tarpon
Springs,
and
you
know
they
try
to
run
into
the
county
and
Glenn
and
I
talk
and,
and
you
know,
and
so
we're
we
know
when
those
things
are
happening,
and
so
you
know
we
we
all
try
to
push
in
the
right
direction.
Yeah.
F
G
But
to
the
point
of
the
and
with
the
with
annexation,
interlocal
agreements
for
annexation
are
really
there.
Those
are
the
requirements
of
how
those
have
to
have
to
be
initiated
and
the
process
is
governed
by
State,
Statute
and
I
know
that
there's
the
reason
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
these
is
because
they're
really
difficult
in
one
the
county.
The
county
likes
to
do
these.
If
they're
going
to
do
these,
they
like
to
do
them
with
all
the
municipalities,
and
so
now
you
have
something
trying
to
be
negotiated
between
every
municipality.
F
G
Otherwise,
as
soon
as
you
get
into
the
Palm
Harbor
Fire
District,
we
can't
Annex
property
out
of
the
Palm
Harbor
Fire
District,
unless
it
gets
approved
by
Pinellas
County
Board
of
county
commissioner.
So
that's
a
hard
stop
going
south.
F
Oh
so
you
know
by
if
you
did
communicate
that
with
the
county.
So
look,
this
is
our
projected
annexation.
This
is
our
comprehensive
land
use.
This
is
what
we
want
the
county
to
embrace
right.
Okay,
instead
of
because
you
may
talk
now
with
the
county,
but
but
the
future,
you
don't
know
who's
going
to
be
there
tomorrow,
sure
absolutely,
and
so
somebody
May
have
you
know
a
good
rapport
with
the
county.
Next
thing
they
get
whatever
density
that
they
want
and
we
have
it
shoved
down
our
throat.
We.
G
Can
certainly-
and
we
probably
would
do
this
anyway-
I
hadn't
really
thought
through
this,
but
you
know
we
can
put
out
a
future
land
use
map
for
the
unincorporated
area.
That
is
our
annexation
area
and
we
can
ask
the
county,
through
our
review
processes.
You
know
as
we're
updating
the
conference
and
plan
to
acknowledge
it
and
now
what
that
acknowledgment
may
look
like
whether
they
adopt
it
or
not.
That's
a
different
story,
but
we
would
probably
do
that
anyway,
as
part
of
our
update
to
the
comp
plan,
because.
B
B
So
there
is
a
process
in
chapter
171,
that
is
the
interlocal
service
boundary
agreement
process
that
talks
about
these
areas
and
the
services
that
are
provided
for
municipalities
and
creating
a
specific
planning
area
as
and
a
process
as
it
relates
to
establishing
the
land
use
under
chapter
163
in
comprehensive,
planned
amendments
and
annexations.
And
this
is
a
very
specific
statute
where
it
talks
about
how
it's
initiated
by
a
resolution
of
the
governing
body
that
it's
sent
to
the
county.
B
You
know-
and
they
have
some
very
specific
timelines
in
here
and
specific
information
that
needs
to
be
included
in
the
agreement.
That
does
address
a
lot
of
the
areas
that
you're
talking
about
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
there's
compatibility
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
there's
a
smooth
process
that
accounts
for
what
the
municipality
is
providing
and
then
what
they're
receiving
on
the
other
end
after
the
annexation.
C
F
G
To
start
I
made
an
attempt
to
address
the
the
discussion
that
I
heard
that
I
could
fix
in
this
particular
ordinance.
If
you're,
okay
with
this
verbiage,
then
we
will,
we
have
to
be
re-advertise.
It'll
come
back
to
you
again
because
it
needs
to
go
through
an
advertising
process.
This
was
just
for
discussion
tonight
so
and.
G
If
I
I
am
looking
for
direction,
if,
if
you
know
so
I,
don't
necessarily
need
it
in
the
an
emotion
it's
because
it's
a
discussion
item
but
I
I
do
want
to
get
direction
if
you're,
okay,
with
this
particular
Amendment,
then
I'll
start
processing
and
bring
it
back
to
you
for
a
formal
public
hearing
process.
So.
D
F
K
Oh
just
quickly
and
and
I
like
the
way
it's
composed
very
much
I,
think
that
the
proposition
for
the
the
Board
of
Commissioners
should
be
we're
looking
for
the
most
control,
but
we're
also
looking
for
the
most
cooperation
with
the
adjoining
jurisdiction,
whatever
that
may
be
so
that
together
we
go
forward
and
make
decisions
that
we
don't
regret
decades
down
the
down
the
road
but
like
the
way
it's
written
certainly
is
is
something
for
them
to
consider,
and
then
we
come
back
and
we
can
fine-tune
whatever
else.
D
C
Address
is
the
concerns
that
this
is
able
to
address
I.
Think
at
this
point,
the
interlocal
agreement,
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
in
my
mind,
at
least,
is
the
permanent
solution
to
this
problem.
This
doesn't
solve
all
of
it
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
but
I
think
it
probably
goes
as
far
as
it's
able
to
go
at
this
point,
I
think
this.
F
Is
a
Band-Aid
for
what
we
need
and
not
not
the
solution,
I
think
if
we
ask
the
chair
to
to
or
if
we
can
make
a
recommendation
for
Renee
to
carry,
you
know
what
legal
said
and
and
move
forward.
So
I
agree
with
you.
I
agree
with
you
it
just
that's
why
it's
frustrating
to
find
a
a
a
get
to
a
point
where
we
don't
have
to
have
these
frustrations
at
these
meetings
when
it
comes
to
annexation.
D
Miss
Vincent,
we
have
given
you
an
almost
impossible
task.
I
know
I,
know
I'm
I'm,
reading
the
gymnastics
that
you've
been
working
through
and
I
appreciate
you
even
tackling
this,
but
I
have
a
question
sure.
D
D
D
D
G
G
So
we
that
was
that
all
that
still
existed
so
and
and
I
was
not
the
person
that
wrote
this
2020-23
when
that
was
adopted
back
in
I,
don't
know
like
the
2006
seven
time
frame,
I
think
so.
We've
lived
with
it,
and
we've
had
and
we've
always
had
these
issues.
So
what
paragraph
two
was
trying
to
do
was
that's
the
bifurcation
process.
That
says,
you
know
if
you're
starting
the
county,
you
stay
there
until
you're
done
and
then
we'll
decide.
G
If
we're
going
to
Annex
you,
because
you
have
to
apply
essentially
because
you're
using
our
services
or
you
can,
if
you're,
if
you're,
not
developed
in
your
vacant
land,
you
can
join
us
in
advance
and
take
our
service.
You
know
and
follow
our
rules.
We
that
this
was
a
specific
bifurcation
process
to
address
something
that
we
just
don't
have
any
direction
on
today,
but
is
a
problem
that
exists
so
did
that.
D
G
I
and
no.
G
Start
mashing,
no,
my
my
my
head
hurts
you.
D
Know
because
I'm
kidding
we're
here
together,
we've
been
forced
force
is
too
strong
a
word.
We.
We
have
been
told
that
we
have
to
accept
developments
that
frankly,
don't
fit
our
best
interest
or
the
best
needs
and
and
you've
done
your
best
to
put
some
words
to
maybe
just
slow
that
down
or
fix
that
I.
G
G
Pinellas,
we
can't
compel
the
county
to
not
start
a
build
or
issue
permits
again,
unless
we
had
some
interlocal
agreement.
That
would
address
that.
That's
that's
why
we
we
set
up
we
unless
we
can
compel
that
with
an
interlocal
agreement
that
says
that
Pinellas
County
won't
issue
a
building
permit
in
these
areas
until
we've
had
a
chance
to
weigh
in
on
it
in
some
form
to
an
interlocal
agreement,
so
that
doesn't
exist.
So
what
we
didn't
want.
G
What
we
were
trying
to,
at
least
in
the
interim
accomplish,
was
setting
up
this
bifurcated
process
where,
if
it's
vacant
land,
you
have
two
choices
landowner
you
can
completely
develop
in
the
connect,
because
I
think
the
I
think
the
perception
was
that
you
start
a
build
in
the
county
and
then
you
Annex
in
because
afterwards
it
might
be
more
advantageous
to
be
in
the
city
to
do
certain
things
versus
so
the
perception
that
people
were
trying
to
gain
the
system
between
the
county
and
the
city.
Well,
this
at
least
stops
that
to
a
degree.
C
G
That's
that
that's
already
set
by
separate
ordinance
that
we
have
a
surcharge
for
water
and
sewer
service.
If
you
are
in
unincorporated
County,
but
you
are
using
our
services,
then
you
pay
a
25,
25
or
25
surcharge
on
your
water
and
sewer
service,
Mill
forever.
That.
F
I
K
F
Okay,
so
that's
why
it's
important
if
a
developer,
you
know
we
have
the
ability
to
say
no
if
they
say
well,
you
know
and
that's
why
I
I
like
what
you
put
in
here,
because
if
forces
the
person
is
going
through
the
county,
the
state
with
the
county
and
then
we
can
decide
whether
or
not
we
will
incorporate
them
at
a
later
date.
C
Things
like
if
they
have
code
enforcement
issues
with
the
county
yep
they
they
can't
run
away
from
those
and
in
in
Annex
in
and
things
like
that.
That
are
also
good,
so
I
mean
I
I,
think
it
does
what
it
can
it.
It
doesn't
solve
the
problem
as.
F
D
F
I
just
saw
this-
this
is
part
A.
Okay,
Part
B
is
moving
forward.
Right
is
is
trying
to
to
approach
the
commission
about
trying
to
all
the
things
that
Council
say.
D
And
if
I
may,
just
really
to
parse
is
that
she's
Miss
Vincent,
who
has
vast
experience
with
the
county,
has
made
it
attempted
to
make
it
clear
to
us
that
it'd
be
very
much
a
struggle
with
them
for
that
interlocal.
But
her
suggestion
about
floating
the
map
that.
E
D
C
And
then,
as
as
far
as
the
other,
what
would
our.
A
C
Representatives
suggest,
as
far
as
the
wording
for
a
emotion
to
ask
the
boc
to
to
or
recommend
the
boc
ask
staff
to
consider
or
look
into
options
for
interlocal
arrangement.
B
Of
some
sort,
so
looking
at
state
statute
on
this
topic,
it
says
that
it's
initiated
via
a
resolution,
so
without
direction
from
the
commission.
You
have
to
get
that
first,
so
just
recommend
that
staff,
or
that
the
city
commission
give
staff
direction
to
explore
an
interlocal
service
boundary
agreement
pursuant
to
171.203.
C
D
G
I
have
none
thank
you
for
the
Direction
tonight.
D
C
Just
a
real
quick
kind
of
general
question:
I,
don't
know
a
year
and
a
half
or
so
ago
we
had
kind
of
a
a
workshop
session
that
was
pretty
fruitful,
I
think
and
a
lot
of
good
things
are
coming
out
of
it.
Now
we
have
a
lot
of
new
members
that
weren't
involved
in
that
process,
I'm
kind
of
wondering
if
the
the
board
would
be
interested
in
doing
that
again
at
some
point
in
the
not
too
distant.
C
C
D
D
C
Humor
there
well
I've
got
a
few
of
those
yeah
okay,
so
we'll
work
on
that.
Any
other
board
comments.