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A
In
an
effort
to
maintain
compliance
with
CDC
and
Pinellas
County
guidelines
for
social,
distancing
and
general
public
safety,
the
city
has
set
up
zoom
virtual
meetings
to
facilitate
the
broadcasting
of
the
public
art
committee
meetings
and
to
provide
for
public
comments.
My
name
is
Joan
Jennings
I'd
like
to
call
the
Monday
June
15
2020
meeting
of
the
public
art
committee
to
order
it
is
2
p.m.
C
B
A
A
You
know,
since
we've
had
such
a
large
turnover
on
the
committee,
there's
been
a
you
know,
a
lot
of
disconnect
with
what's
gone
on,
you
know
in
the
past
year,
so
the
purpose
of
this
meeting
is
to
basically
find
out
from
this
committee.
What
are
their
priorities?
What
they'd
like
to
see
what
they'd
like
to
discuss?
D
Joan
also
we're
just
to
call
your
attention
first
to
the
many
attachments
that
she
received.
You
know
for
this
meeting.
I
know
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
when
we're
doing
this
in
a
zoom
format,
but
of
course,
in
addition
to
the
agenda,
we
also
I
compiled
everyone's
feedback
that
you
gave
me
on
guidelines
and
master
plan
and
put
those
in
one
document
that
you
are
received.
D
We
also
had
the
minutes
from
the
BOC
workshop
back
in
May.
That
Lucien
had
requested
be
sent
to
everyone,
and
the
majority
of
that
is
on
just
on
one
page
of
that.
For
the
minutes
from
the
BOC
workshop
was
on
page
three
and
then
the
combined
notes
we
see
and
also
requested
for
your
reference
that
John
Jennings
and
I
and
Denise
Manning
took
at
that
BOC
workshop.
D
D
The
guidelines
you
know
where
we're
driven
our
whole
committee
is
driven
by
the
ordinance,
and
so
everybody
should
become
really
familiar
with
the
ordinance,
but
the
guidelines
are
kind
of
like
an
abbreviated
version
and
an
overview.
If
you
will
of
the
ordinance
and
then
the
master
plan
is
designed
for
the
committee,
the
public
art
committee,
to
kind
of
expand
on
what
the
plan
is
for
a
particular
year
or
you
know,
moving
what
you'd
like
to
do
in
five
years
from
now.
D
A
Perfect,
does
everybody
have
any
questions
about
what
the
docs
are?
I
noticed
that
a
lot
of
people
a
lot,
but
several
people
commented
about
the
website
and
the
brochure
and
our
website
is
turbine
arts
org
forward,
slash
public
art,
and
if
you
go
to
that
website,
you
will
also
find
a
copy
of
our
latest
brochure.
A
I
guess
with
you
know,
with
the
quarantine
and
the
social
distancing
people
haven't
been
out
and
about
to,
you
know,
actually
see
the
brochure
which
is
you
know.
I
know
it's
in
the
Cultural
Heritage
Center,
for
example,
and
it
would
be
in
the
library
in
City,
Hall
and
another
number
of
other
places
where
you
know
Chamber
of
Commerce,
where
it
would
be
accessible
to
the
public.
But.
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A
A
The
budget
is
basically
derived
from
the
contributions
from
developers
who
are
doing
projects
and
sharpen
springs
that
are
a
million
dollars
or
more.
There
is
a
percentage
outlined
in
the
ordinance
that
dictates
what
they
pay,
and
this
is
all
put
in
a
dedicated
budget
and
it
rolls
over
its
totally
dedicated
to
public
art
projects,
and
if
we
want
to
do
anything,
that's
$15,000
or
under
we
have
the
Liberty
to
do
that,
and
you
know
there
are
certain
things
that
are
kind
of
assumed.
A
F
E
F
Question
is,
you
know,
is
there
an
actual
budget?
Is
there
an
actual
account?
Do
we
know
how
much
we
spend
on
maintenance
of
the
orchid?
We
currently
have.
You
know
in
inventory.
Well,
I've
not
seen
any
numbers
that
they
kind
of
show
us
that
not
sure
at
some
place.
I
just
don't
know
where
it
might
be.
Well.
A
First
answer
your
question:
when
somebody
does
a
development
in
Tarpon
Springs,
as
I
said
in
excess
of
a
million
dollars,
they
have
the
option
of
either
making
a
cash
contribution
to
the
budget
or
doing
a
project,
and
this
year
we
reviewed
two
projects.
One,
of
course,
was
the
Christopher
still
mural
in
the
lobby
of
Advent
Health
and
the
other
one
was
the
Cecilia
Louise's
sculpture
for
the
Korea
apartment
complex
on
all
19,
so
they
opted
for
the
art
projects.
A
We
should
also
know
that
until
the
art
project
is
completed,
the
project
cannot
get
a
C
of
O,
so
it's
very
important
that
they
finish
these
projects
up,
let's
see
the
the
thing
is
that
on
June
20
should
ask
that
on
June
23rd
I'm
going
to
be
making
a
presentation
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
and
basically
the
format
is
to
do
a
budget.
You
know
what's
in
the
fund,
what
was
expended
in
the
past
year
and
what
we
plan
to
spend
for
the
coming
year.
A
Right
now
we
have
about
two
hundred
and
seventy
four
thousand
dollars
in
the
budget
about
sixteen
thousand
of
that
and
change
will
go
to
the
illuminated
art
boxes.
Diane.
It's
imagine.
It's
I
believe
it's
going
before
the
Board
of
Commissioners
for
approval,
because
it's
a
fifteen
thousand
benchmark
I'm.
A
But
you
know,
and
the
thing
is
that
we're
going
to
be
installing
the
Glenna
Goodacre
storytime
sculpture,
you
know
at
the
newly
renovated
cultural
heritage,
building
and
I
guess
we're
going
to
at
some
point
decide
whether
it
needs
to
be
cleaned
or
you
know,
polished
dirt
in
some
way
maintained.
You
know
before
it's
actually
installed
or
right
after
its
installed,
so
that
would
be
considered
a
routine
maintenance
expenditure.
G
A
Right
with
the
problem
with
Ahmad
was
that
she
was
pitting,
so
it
was
felt
that
she
she
really
needed
a
good.
You
know
cleaning
and
restoration,
I
believe
I,
don't
remember
all
the
specific
technical
details,
but
we
researched
and
got
a
company
from
I
believe
of
st.
Kate's
Diane,
who
came
out
yes
and
restored
the
you
know,
I
mean
polish.
The
statue,
when
you
know
put
a
protective
coating
on
it,
because
I
do
have
unique
challenges
here
with
the
saltwater
environment.
A
F
Joan,
the
budget,
is
there
a
location
or
I'm
kind
of
thinking
of
a
dashboard
or
something
that
we
get
a
snapshot
of
where
we
currently
stand,
don't
have
to
be
monthly,
but
just
as
a
quick
reference
to
here's,
where
we
think
the
he's
gonna
go,
here's
what
we
spent
so
far.
You
know
I've
not
seen
much
of
that
and
I
just
didn't
know.
If
that's
something
that
we
should
look
at.
A
A
F
A
A
lot
of
you
know,
kind
of
routine
maintenance
is
actually
done
by
public
works,
so
it
doesn't
cost
us
anything,
and
you
know,
as
I
said
it
would
only
be
something
extraordinary.
Like
the
you
know,
bronze
statues.
You
know
you
know.
Sometimes
the
you
know
the
public
art
committee
a
couple
of
years
ago
that
a
series
of
artistic
bike
racks
around
town
and
sometimes
they
need
to
be.
You
know
tweaked
or
you
know
like
the
hands
on
the
clock
of
the
bike
rack
in
front
of
the
Depot.
A
F
D
Yes,
I
was
just
a
lot
of
this.
Information
is
in
the
ordinance
itself,
so
like
on
page
9
of
the
ordinance
it
says
monies
and
the
public
art
fund
shall
be
used
for
commissioning,
display
and
acquisition
of
public
art,
including
artists,
design
fees,
artist,
residency
fees,
purchase
price
transportation,
installation
and
site
preparation
related
directly
to
the
installation
of
public
art.
D
It
says
general
improvements
to
the
surrounding
site
and
location
up
to
a
maximum
of
15%
of
the
artwork
cost
maintenance
of
public
art
owned
by
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs,
including
fees
paid
to
the
professional
conservators
and
the
original
artists
for
conservation
and
repair.
So
they
do
put
a
certain
amount
into
like
a
maintenance
fund,
and
we
have
that.
You
know
to
you
know
so:
heading
up
keep
the
artwork
mm-hmm.
A
E
A
I
guess
a
large
portion
of
what
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
today
is
to
possibly
you
know,
look
at
the
kind
of
wish
list
from
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
discuss
some.
You
know
future
projects,
you
know
coming
down
the
pike,
so
you
know
we,
you
know
we
serve
at
the
you
know
at
the
pleasure
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
but
you
know
we
are
here
because
we're
we
do
have
a
certain
expertise
and
you
know
in
the
art
so
to
some
extent
we're
an
advisory.
A
H
A
E
A
J
J
C
J
D
H
E
H
H
A
E
H
A
At
the
very
top
again
it,
the
TSP
AC
can
spend
up
to
fifteen
thousand
dollars
for
any
approved
items
without
additional
DLC
or
designate
action.
So
in
other
words,
if,
like
the
art
boxes
that
was
already
approved
by
the
BOC,
and
if
that
expenditure
had
been
under
fifteen
thousand
dollars,
we
could
have
just
gone
ahead
and
order
it,
but
because
it
exceeded
fifteen
thousand,
it
had
to
go
through
the
the
purchasing
department.
A
Okay,
moving
down
to
the
to
the
bottom
of
the
bulleted
list.
In
the
middle
of
the
document,
we
added
preliminary
project
descriptions
and
budgets
will
be
presented
to
the
BOC
for
approval
in
the
annual
plan.
In
addition,
each
project
for
the
defined
in
scope
and
budget
will
be
resubmitted
for
the
BOC
approval.
A
A
E
D
G
D
A
A
G
A
G
A
E
A
A
E
D
D
A
A
A
A
G
E
G
A
A
D
No,
it's
just
it's
basically
a
form
that
if
an
artist
has
an
idea
for
a
public
art
piece,
no
matter
what
media
it
is,
they
can
fill
out
it
kind
of
gives
them
the
steps
to
create
a
proposal,
and
then
once
they
have,
that
proposal
completed
its
emailed
to
me
or
given
to
me
that
there's
other
you
know
samples
or
whatever,
and
then
what
I
do
is
I
bring
it
to
the
next
public
art
committee
meeting.
Whenever
that
schedule,
we
put
it
on
the
agenda
that
you
have
an
artists.
D
E
D
A
I
think
if
we
Dianne
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I,
think
if
we,
if
we
are
looking
at
a
specific
site
for
a
piece
of
art,
then
that
would
become
a
quality
artists
rather
than
as
an
artist
proposal.
The
artists
proposals
are
kind
of
a
little
more
freewheeling
if
I
could
use
that
word.
In
other
words,
somebody
could
just
approach
us
and
say
you
know:
I
want
to
build.
A
A
E
I
A
Without
discriminating
between
the
two
mechanisms,
one's
an
artist
proposal,
which
the
artist
himself
herself
instigates
and
submits
versus
like
a
solution,
says
the
site-specific
project,
in
which
case
that
would
be
a
call
to
artists,
and
it
would
be
we
would
get
responses.
It's
like
call
and
response.
You
know
yes,.
A
A
I
A
J
J
I
A
Now
you're
going
to
be
on
the
giving
side
and
the
responding
side.
Okay,
let's
see
if
we
could
go
to
page
11
and
it
kind
of
touches
on
what
we're
talking
about
about
the
approval
of
artist
or
artwork.
It's
the
first
paragraph
on
the
top,
in
other
words,
of
something.
If
we
create
a
jury,
it's
just
the
mechanism
for
it's
as
if
the
agreement
award
is
$15,000
or
less.
The
TSP
AC
will
notify
the
city
manager
of
the
recommendation
and
request
the
city
manager
proceed
with
the
agreement
negotiations.
A
A
A
A
H
H
A
A
A
J
The
public
participation
paragraph,
it
does
actually
still
include
what
lucien
said
about
that:
their
interest
residents
in
the
actual
planning,
design
and
installation.
So,
as
she
mentioned,
maybe
we
should
just
doing
the
actual
planning
and
leave
off
the
design,
installation
and
maintenance.
Even
in
the
public
participation
paragraph,
you.
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A
J
A
A
A
D
They're,
pretty
old,
you
know
so
since
you're
revising
it,
you
know
those
could
be
in
the
archive,
because
we
have
a
big
archive
of
public
art
projects
mm-hmm
and
some
of
the
members
you
when
you
got
your
notebooks
I,
don't
know
if
you
remember
me:
shylu
and
Robert
they're
gonna
get
theirs
before
the
next
July
meeting.
But
in
the
back
of
your
notebooks
you
had
a
thumb,
drive
they
used
to
put
the
history
of
the
art
on
CDs.
You
know,
but
they're,
not
you're,
not
using
that
anymore.
So
we
put
it
on
thumb,
drives.
D
E
G
C
A
H
A
How
does
everybody
else
feel
on
that?
One
I
agree:
I
think
it
should
come
out
anyone,
okay,
some
risk
if
you
could
delete
the
city
entrances,
okay,
okay,
the
and
the
outdoor
sculpture,
celebrating
the
library
that
isn't
quite
completed,
but
we're
teetering
on
the
verge
of
it.
So
I'm
wondering
whether
we
should
leave
it
in
or
not.
E
D
A
A
E
D
E
G
A
So
alright,
what
I'm
gonna
suggest
is
we
look
at
rewording
the
balanced
and
diverse
approach,
because
I
don't
think
we
want
to
be
tied
into
I,
don't
even
know
what
a
large
city
icon
is
and
I.
Don't
think
we
want
to
be
making
benches
and
putting
things
on
highways
and-
and
you
know
that
sort
of
thing.
H
A
E
A
E
A
Parks
parks
are
one
of
the
main
community
facilities
and
tarpon
springs
and
therefore
important
locations
for
citizens
to
experience
the
full
range
of
public
art
types.
Public
barton
parks
must
meet
certain
special
criteria
related
to
the
presence
of
active
children
park,
maintenance
method
at
each
parks,
unique
character.
In
addition
to
our
existing
beautiful
parks,
additional
micro
or
rested
parks
are
desirable.
They
might
consist
of
a
single
bed
with
a
bench
with
shade
at
intervals
along
the
art
and
history
trail.
A
D
A
H
J
B
A
A
A
Establishes
six
main
functions
for
the
public
art
program
during
the
next
five
years:
a
mural
program,
urban
furnishings,
public
art
that
connects
downtown
Craig
park
and
the
Sponge
Docks
public
art
or
information
or
art
information
kiosks
along
the
Pinellas
Trail.
We've
kind
of
discussed
that
one
creative
integration
of
technology
to
develop
art
projects
that
promote
the
uniqueness
of
Tarpon
Springs,
that
was
kind
of
the
art
box
project.
A
A
A
G
A
A
G
A
Unfortunately,
any
consideration
of
stuff
along
the
trail
is
kind
of
moot
now
that
it's
County
property,
young
and
student
artists,
that
would
be
the
art
boxes
among
and
probably
some
of,
the
mural
projects
on
the
city-owned
property
Bell.
You
wanted
a
map
of
the
city-owned
properties
and
both
you
and
Lucien
wanted
to
prioritize
locations
which
is
I.
Guess
what
we're
talking
about
now.
I
think
your
questions
about
the
budget,
I
hope
were
answered.
A
Okay
and
then
the
five-year
plan,
which
is
kind
of
what
we're
working
on
Mikaela,
mentioned
public
art
in
the
parks
and
doing
a
photo
catalog
of
artwork
Trish
was
concerned
about
BLC
approval
and
she
suggested
a
municipal
service.
You
know
polities
about
the
murals
and
the
liability
insurance,
which
we
did
I
believe
in
January
I
think
Jules
had
taken
that
on
she,
she
assigned
everybody
of
municipality
or
two
and
I
think
we
discovered
that
the
insurance
liability
issues
were
basically
Universal.
Dianne
is
my
recollection,
correct.
Yes,.
H
A
F
B
F
Are
in
the
pipeline
and
something
that
we
can
all
look
at
in
one
almost
one
page
and
say:
here's
what
we
want
to
do
and
here's
where
we
stand
on
all
these
things
and
where
that's
the
GIS
with
the
mapping
and
so
it
it's
kind
of
taken
the
next
step
beyond
the
actual
plan
and
the
three-ring
binder
and
saying:
okay,
something
real
easy
for
you
to
go
to
the
BOC
with
and
say.
Look
and
everybody
instantly
looks
at
it
and
goes.
Oh
I.
E
E
A
F
E
F
Means
we've
got
to
do
the
first
one
first
before
we
can
take
it
to
that
next
level,
but
you
know
maybe
GIS.
Maybe
she
can
start
populating
the
current
inventory,
where
everything
resides
the
most
City
properties
across
the
city
itself,
and
you
know,
maybe
we
just
build
on
that
as
our
tool,
I'm
looking
to
Mordor
for
some
of
the
tools
to
help
us
manage
this.
Oh
yeah,
those
two
having
a
three-ring
binder
that
we
go
back
to.
We
only
go
back
to
it.
We
want
when
we
want
to
look.
A
My
one
reservation
is
I,
don't
know
whether
we
could
get
this
up
and
running
by
the
23rd
of
June.
It's
not.
You
know,
you
know.
With
with
the
situation.
You
know
with.
You
know
the
quarantine
people
not
being
at
the
desk.
You
know
put
together
something
like
this.
It's
it's
not
that
simple
to
come
up.
It's.
D
Know
what
I
just
want
just
some
clarification,
if
you
don't
mind,
cuz,
there's
a
bunch
of
different
art
around
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs.
Some
of
it
is
privately
done
and
some
of
it
is
public
art
committee.
You
know
driven,
but
there's
a
ton.
You
know,
and
then
we've
got
like
that
whole
list,
that's
on
the
CD
or
the
and
the
thumb
drive
of
art
that
has
been
donated
to
the
city
over
many
many
years.
D
That's
you
know
historic,
and
some
of
it
is
in
storage
and
and
some
of
it
is
at
the
library-
and
you
know
so
it's
in
different
places.
You
know
kind
of
thing.
So
when
you
say
you
want
a
GIS
map
of
where
the
art
is,
are
you
saying
public
committee,
art
or
all
the
art,
because
that
might
be
a
little
bit
daunting?
I
was.
F
Thinking
the
public
art,
you
know
what
we've
been
responsible
for
as
a
committee
and
as
and
as
city
and
again
to
help
make
some
of
the
decisions
going
forward.
What
type
of
order
we
have
a
short
supply
of
them.
We
need
to
focus
on
and
then
also
where
geographically
throughout
the
city.
Are
we
not
doing
enough
so
that
we
know
where
to
put
our
efforts,
so
we
know
how
to
allocate
you
know
going
forward.
F
A
D
A
G
A
A
And
this
is
also
our
opportunity
to
bring
projects
before
the
BOC
that
we'd
like
to
get
them
to
approve.
So
that's
why
this,
then
you
know
these
items
in
the
master
plan
are
so
important.
You
know
I
mean
do
we
want
to
do
a
statue?
Do
we
want
to
do
major
projects?
Do
we
want
to
do
student
murals
on
the
on
the
different
walls?
We
do
we
want
to
do
all
of
the
above.
We
have
to
give
them.
Some
kind
of
you
know
at
least
a
loose
predict
projection.
What
we
might
be
planning
a.
A
A
I've
always
felt
that
a
big
part
of
the
arts
is
communication
and
interaction,
and
it's
very
difficult
to
do
it
in
in
this
kind
of
setting
and
I
also
think
it's
rather
difficult.
I
mean
that
beautiful
new
new
room
that
they
created
for
you
know
all
the
committee
meetings
to
me
feels
like
a
court
room
and
it's
perfect
for
planning
and
zoning.
You
know
where
you're
looking
at
rules
and
regulations
and
applying
them
to
each
case,
but
you
know
the
arts
are
more
fluid.
You
know
they
need.
A
You
know
when
we
were
meeting
in
the
library
somebody
would
bring
in
some
look
at
this.
What
I
found
and
push
papers
around
and
there
would
be
you
know,
discussions
and
a
lot
more
interaction
on
the
committee
and
I
kind
of
missed.
That
I
feel,
like
you
know,
in
some
ways,
I
almost
feel
like
I'm,
almost
pulling
teeth
to
try
to
get.
A
E
A
The
thing
is
that
you
know
the
city
technologically:
has
you
know
decided
that
they
wanted
to
do.
You
know
live
broadcast
of
these.
That's
why
we've
been
moved
to
that
room
and
you
know
to
try
to
move
to
something
that
would
be
more
conducive
to
the
type
of
meeting
we
want
to
do.
I,
don't
even
know
if
it's
possible,
maybe
changing
some
of
the
seating
or
some
of
the
arrangements
in
that
you
know
in
that
conference.
Room
might
be
a
little
helpful,
but
Lucien
do
you
have
any
feelings
on
this
or
I.
E
A
So
you
know
I
think
we
need
to
maybe
I'll
speak
to
mark
and
see
what
we
could
do.
If
anything
about
it.
You
know
I've
always
felt
that
you
know.
As
I
said,
the
arts
are
so
much
different
everybody.
Everything
else
is
kind
of
like
got
a
legislative,
you
know
type
of
approach,
and
you
know
that
room
is
perfect
for
those
types
of
meetings,
but
I
don't
think
they
work
for
us.
A
E
E
E
I
Ads
the
mermaid
and
the
Greek
sponge
diver
and
those
are
pretty
the
formative
projects,
and
in
that
you
know,
they're,
expensive,
they're
cast
bronze,
they're
impressive,
and
all
that,
although
they're
very
literal
and
I'm,
not
against
literal
work
and
I,
think
in
great
many
places
it
works
and
it
does
what
it
needs
to
do.
I
think
I
think
there's
a
sense
of
continuity.
E
I
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
question
about
whether,
as
this
committee
and
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
is
sort
of
concerned
about
what
the
look
of
their
collection
is,
you
know
and
if
it
were
to
be
an
abstraction
of
a
Greek
sponge,
diver
I
mean
that's
that
could
be
carried
out
in
in
a
call
for
artists.
You
know
that
you,
you
get
these
kind
of
distances,
but
I
think
that
can
be
a
very
important
addition
or
a
very
important
project
to
add
to
this
because
most
people
don't
know
this
at
all.
I
You
know
on
a
plaque-
that's
someone's
prescriptive,
so
that
you
know
but
I.
Think
too
that
that
you
have
some
strong
literal
sculptors
here.
People
really
seem
to
get
involved
in
them.
I
Drive,
by
than
I
adds
a
lot.
People
are
always
sitting
in
amongst
and
it's
clearly
a
place
and
and
its
location
is
good.
I
The
mermaid
is
something
I
see
a
lot
of
people
getting
photographs
taking
next
to
that
sponge
diver
itself,
so
having
quality,
negative
bronze,
sculptures
I
think
it
can
be
a
real
asset
to
the
city
and
but
I
think
you
can
you
can
in
in
other
projects.
You
can
try
to
go
into
other
media
other
kind.
Things
break
things
up
more
into
the
21st
century
way,
but
public
art
has
its
place
in
being
being
really
informative
to
as
many
people
as
you
can
have
it
be
mm-hmm.
A
G
My
only
comment
is
I
would
I
would
like
us
to
have
a
really
firm
sense
of
the
history
of
the
Bohemians.
There
were
Bohemians
of
African
descent,
but
there
were
also
a
whole
lot
of
Greeks
based
in
the
Bahamas.
So
I
know
that
maybe
six
years
ago
there
was
an
exhibit
in
the
hole.
E
E
E
A
E
E
D
Up
in
our
cultural
center,
so
you
know
we
could
get
that
down
again
and
put
that
exhibit
up.
You
know
to
coincide
with
something
that
the
public
art
committee,
you
know,
would
do
a
project.
You
know
be
kind
of
neat.
You
know
have
that
back
up.
You
know
to
kind
of
complement
whatever
project
you
all
decided
to
do.
So
that's
great.
A
Yeah
yeah,
that
would
be
a
great
idea
to
you,
know,
combine
the
the
exhibit
with
the
with
the
statue,
and
you
know,
I'm
with
both
Lucien
and
Robert
I
I
would
really
like
to
see
some
more
abstract
sculpture
in
in
town,
but
I.
Don't
think
this
particular
I
also
agree
with
Robert
I
think
that
this
particular
project
needs
to
be.
You
know
a
little
more
representational
and
you
know
we
are
getting
that
abstract
piece
in
Korea.
So
you
know
we
are
making
strides
there
and.
I
I
add
something
to
a
I
mean,
there's,
there's
a
plethora
of
artists
who
deal
with
21st
century
concepts
of
realistic
sculpture.
So
it's
you
know
very
contemporary
approaches
to
things.
I
mean
it's
a
way
they
approach
with
the
material
or
with
a
kind
of
a
contextual
thing
that
they
can
give
to
it.
So
you
know
it's
not
like
saying
that
that
a
realistic
sculpture
is
going
to
be
one
of
those
boring
kind
of
just
to
stay.
I
I
I
E
A
E
A
I
I
A
A
A
F
D
A
A
G
Were
not
my
ideas,
I
compiled
these
from
the
recordings
and
minutes
the
these?
These
are
areas
that
were
highlighted
by
different
members
of
the
BOC
and
I.
Think
if
the
past
is
true,
every
time
we
appear
before
the
BOC,
we're
going
to
be
reminded
of
these
locations,
I
think
the
MLK
slash
alt
19
was
not
the
intersection
but
the
whole
of
MLK
and
then
alternate
19
as
two
different
locations,
but.
A
A
A
A
A
I
Think
that
that
is
an
intriguing
kind
of
think
is
that
way:
you'd
be
able
to
get
a
sense
of
that
structure
and
a
sense
of
abstraction
to
it.
If
you
wanted
that,
it
would
not
be
a
bigoted
piece,
it
would
be
something
that's
referencing
that
I
I
know
the
city
of
st.
Petersburg
is
paying
mark
lucky
name
to
build
the
the
Janus
airplane
and.
E
A
I
A
I
I
A
G
A
Think
that's
kind
of
ambitious
I
don't
really
see
that
working
the
tennis
wall
in
Craig
Park,
that's
another
one
that
that
keeps
shifting
gears
and
it
has
ever
since
I've
been
on
this
committee
diantha,
you
know
I
mean:
are
they
still
talking
about
possibly
reconfiguring
that
area
around
Creek
Park?
That's
kind
of
like
a
moving
target.
I
haven't.
A
The
howard
park
parking
lot
again:
that's
county,
the
downtown
postcard
murals
that
was
basically
voted
down
by
the
pack.
On
a
couple
of
occasions.
The
Pinellas
Trail
was
again
County
property
around
the
bayous.
That's
definitely
something
that
we
could
explore
and,
of
course,
the
dumpster
Corral's.
That's
we
were
talking
about
with
the
student
arrow
project.
D
E
D
You
know,
we've
have
been
praised
for
our
marina
and
we
have
so
many
wonderful
waterways.
You
know
that
people
kayak
and
boat
on
all
the
time.
So
you
know
when
you're
thinking
of
locations
think
about
some
of
those
things
too,
because
it's
like
you
know,
kids
I
get
one
of
the
parks.
There
could
be
a
piece
of
art
that
children
could
actually
utilize.
E
I
Then
I
go
back
to
the
Ennis
Park.
That's
the
first
I
heard
the
innocence
mentioned
in
this,
and
yet
there
George
in
a
senior
is
an
incredibly
famous
artist
and
and
George
Jr
of
course
lived
here
and
I
and
George
senior
built
house
I.
Don't
know
why
I
don't
care
more
about
the
enos's
and
in
Tarpon
Springs.
I
G
I
G
I
F
I
A
E
A
I
A
J
Have
a
question
sure,
okay,
you
guys
mentioned
Sunset
Beach
I
drove
by
there
yesterday
to
just
look
at
the
wall
and
the
wall
was
small
and
it
faces
the
water
and
everything
so
I,
wonder
if
Wind
and
says
sand
and
salt
would
make
it
difficult
to
keep
any
artwork
out
there
and
have
it
stay
in
any
decent
shape.
But
there
were
some
electrical
boxes
on
that
wall
that
would
really
impair,
because
it's
not
a
huge
wall,
doing
anything
and
I
wonder
before
we
even
proposed
sites
like
that.
J
Is
it
possible
for
the
city
to
consider
if
they
would
move
the
electrical
boxes
if
we're
really
going
to
pursue
specific
sites
like
that,
the
reason
I'm
asking
is
because
if
we
say
oh,
we
would
like
to
use
city
property
and
Sunset.
Beach
wall
is
one
of
the
ones
and
then
any
artist
goes
to
look
at
and
says.
But
there
are
these
big
boxes.
They
would
really
detract
from
the
small
wall
that
we
have
in
the
first
place.
J
A
Like
it
would
be
something
that
would
be
probably
the
decision
of
Duke
Energy,
we
we
actually
in
the
past,
considered
doing
a
project
that
it
exists
in
a
lot
of
other
municipalities
where
they
paint
those
those
electrical
boxes.
Mm-Hm
and
for
some
reason,
the
boxes
in
Tarpon
Springs
are
all
numbered
and
coded,
and
they
couldn't
be
painted
over
so
Trish.
You
look
like
you
were
going
to
say
something:
no,
okay,
I
I.
A
Yeah
we
looked,
we
looked
into
just
about
every
option
on
the
face
of
the
planet
and
firm,
for
whatever
reason
I
mean
somebody
I
think
it
was
Rod.
Merton
spent,
maybe
a
couple
of
months
on
this,
and
basically
we
just
figured
out
that
it
was
there's
something
odd
about
the
Tarpon
Springs
electrical
boxes
and
it
just
wasn't
viable
posers
anyway.
Remember
do
you
remember
exactly.
D
D
City-Owned
and
some
of
them
were
County,
and
then
there
was
like
he
couldn't
go
over
there.
The
printed
side
and
so
I
think
it
was
just
kind
of
abandoned
because
it
was,
you
know
too
difficult
to
get
I
guess
an
image
that
they
wanted
to
put
on,
but
don't
forget
about
the
water
tower.
There's
some
cities
that
have
some
really
cool
art
projects
of
their
old
water
towers,
really
cool.
I
G
A
A
The
historic
mural
on
the
Makris
building
that
that,
of
course,
has
been
done
by
Christopher
still
I,
don't
think
we
want
to
approach
Walmart,
Walgreens
or
Panera
in
this
business.
Climate
and
people
feel
about
that
I
think
a
lot
of
these
businesses
are
struggling
and
then
the
encouraging
young
artists
we
kind
of
went
over
that.