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A
C
D
A
I
guess
she's
absent
mark.
Do
we
have
any
virtual
attendants.
A
C
A
Okay,
we
have
an
artist
proposal
from
david,
danforth
and
diane
has
provided
us
with
a
handout.
Mr
danforth
had
previously
submitted
to
some
ideas
to
the
pack
for
murals
in
december
of
2019
for
a
project
that
was
cancelled.
A
A
So
I
don't
know
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
through
them.
I
think
he's
got
a
very
distinctive
style.
It
looks
like
it's
all:
marine
life,
very
bright
colors.
E
Okay,
mr
danforth
is
actually
on
here
too.
If
you
want
him
to
kind
of
talk
about
his.
A
Proposal,
mr
danforth
welcome.
F
Yeah
I've
been
talking
with
jacob
back
and
forth
for
a
while
about
getting
some
local
art,
and
I
think
some
of
the
ideas
that
that
we've
had
there
are
pretty
good.
I
like
the
fact
that
some
of
them
are
interactive,
meaning
as
guests
are
there,
they
can
take
pictures
social
media,
help
kind
of
suppress
some
awareness
of
getting
people
wanting
to
come
to
the
area.
F
I
kind
of
also
was
just
going
to
give
a
little
background
of
myself
and
how
how
we've
grown
we've
done.
Three
magazine
covers
this
past
two
years.
I've
been
in
a
total
of
six
magazines,
but
three
covers
we've
been
featured
on.
F
We
currently
just
did
a
deal
with
yeti
using
my
artwork,
so
that
any
of
the
new
brick
and
mortar
stores
for
yeti
and
florida
will
also
have
me
custom
painting
their
cups
and
coolers
for
them,
so
the
name's
getting
out
there
and
I'd
love
to
be
able
to
put
a
put
a
stamp
of
me.
You
know
in
the
lobe
area
that
I
grew
up
also,
so
I
grew
up
in
tampa
bay
area
fishing,
it
and
camping
and
being
outdoors
and
going
to
the
tarpon
springs
with
my
dad
as
a
kid.
A
Okay,
perhaps
if
you
could
go
through
what
you're
proposing
the
goals
and
specifications,
I
know
it's
printed
out,
but
I
think
it
might
be
nice
to
hear
it
from
the
artist
himself.
F
Yeah,
so
the
goals
outlined
there's
four
spots
that
need
attention:
sunset,
beach,
dumpster
on
the
north
wall.
What
that
project
would
be
would
be
an
underwater
scene
of
tarpon
snook
and
redfish,
which
these
are
native
fish
to
the
tarpon
springs
area.
The
second
goal
would
be
sunset,
beach,
dumpster
on
the
west
wall.
That
would
be
a
beach
scene
with
anclote
lighthouse
another.
You
know,
local
landmark
number
three
would
be
sunset
beach,
bathroom
wall.
This
is
the
interactive
wall
that
I
was
talking
about
that
I
had
spoke
with
with
jacob.
F
He
said
he
wanted
something
interactive,
and
so
I
would
like
to
paint
the
scene
of
a
boat
catching
a
tarpon
and
then
have
it
so
that
it
looks
like
whoever
stands
on.
The
bow
is
actually
holding
a
fishing
rod
fighting
that
tarpon,
so
you
can
move
in,
get
your
picture
move
out
and
then
take
turns.
So
this
way
it's
it's.
People
are
having
fun
with
that
art
as
well.
F
Last
golf
course
dumpster
that
would
be
tarpon
skills,
the
entire
wall,
and
I
also
added
mock-ups,
I'm
sure
you
guys
have
a
picture
to
give
you
kind
of
an
idea
of
what
it
would
look
like
some
of
these,
the
tarpon
snook
and
redfish
on
the
mangroves
that
I
spoke
about.
We
don't
have
that
yet,
because
I
will
be
making
them
here
in
the
studio
and
then
we'll
scan
it
and
then
we're
going
to
have
it
installed
with
vinyl
and
that
way
too.
F
You
know
if,
if
someone
comes
in
and
tries
to
damage
it,
it's
gonna
hold
up
a
lot
better,
being
vinyl
versus
paint.
The
vinyl
also
hands
up,
stands
up
to
weather
and
abuse
a
lot
better
than
just
painting
on
the
side
of
a
building.
F
So
that's
that's
why
we
kind
of
chose
that
route
specifications
in
the
in
the
pamphlet
we
have
the
measurements
and
the
price
per
square
foot
we're
using
a
local
company,
that'll
install
the
vinyl,
artwork
and
they're,
using
a
special
material.
That's
meant
for
brick
outdoor
use,
not
just
like
a
metal
or
it's
it's
used
for
a
rough
texture.
So
that
way,
it
holds
up
and
prolongs
the
life
of
the
art.
F
A
Because
I
know
that
there's
a
local
company
in
the
tampa
bay
area
that
did
the
applique
for
the
christopher's
stone
mural
on
the
chamber
of
commerce
building.
I
was
just
wondering
if
it
was
the
same
company.
F
I
don't
have
the
name
here,
but
it
was.
I
asked
jacob
carr
for
a
couple
recommendations
of
local
people
that
he
would
know
that
that
were
reliable,
that
he
had
heard
good
info.
I
can
get
that
info
for
you
guys.
I
can
email
it
over
shortly.
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna
beg
everyone's
indulgence
and
I
think
diane
will
beg
with
me.
We
both
had
our
second
covid
shot
yesterday,
so
I'm
a
little
whoopsie.
A
Okay,
as
usual,
the
ugly
liability
issue
raises
its
head
and
are
you
aware
of
the
insurance
requirements.
F
So
I've
I've
read
through
them.
I
can,
if
you
want
me
to
get
the
insurance,
I
can
go
ahead
and
get
the
insurance,
usually
if
I'm
doing
a
project,
that's
on
site,
but
because
I'm
doing
it
from
home
in
the
studio
I
I
can
also
get
it,
but
also
the
install
company
I
talked
to
yesterday.
They
have
insurance
because
they're
gonna
be
on
the
job
site.
Their
insurance
covers
making
sure
that
the
job
is
completed
and
to
your
satisfaction.
A
Okay,
because
one
of
the
issues
we've
had
in
in
the
past
with
a
lot
of
these
projects
that
even
though
it
was
using
the
applique
process,
the
artist
still
needed
pretty
extensive
liability
insurance.
A
I
just
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
that,
and
perhaps
we
could
you
could
discuss
that
with
diane
at
a
later.
More
later
time,
john.
E
I
did
mention
that
to
david
when
he
submitted
his
proposal
and
everything,
and
what
we
decided
is
that
if
the
public
art
committee
does
approve
this
project,
that
we
would
ask
the
city
attorney
tom
trask,
what's
the
best
way
to
do
the
contract
right,
so,
okay,.
D
A
But
the
question
arises
about
the
insurance
or
the
artist
as
well.
That's
also,
you
know.
I
mean
that
this
all
sort
of
got
hashed
out
before
you
joined
the
pack.
A
So
we're
all
painfully
aware
of
it.
D
Okay,
so
in
the
specifications
the
8750
is
apart
from
the
3000
correct.
These
are
two
different
numbers
right.
F
Now
the
8750
would
be
my
my
feet
for
materials
to
art
to
do
the
artwork
to
create
the
designs.
The
additional
three
is
the
quote
from
the
install
company
to
install
all
four
locations.
D
F
Most
of
it's
exclusive,
since
their
customs,
the
only
one
that
would
be
sold
again,
would
maybe
be
something
similar
to
the
tarpon
skills,
because
I
I
sell
my
artwork.
Naturally,
I
sell
the
tarpon
scales
as
a
print
or
maybe
a
coffee
mug.
I
don't
know
I
haven't,
went
into
production
with
that
yet,
but
the
other
ones
are
custom
drawings.
So
no
that
would
be
fully
exclusive.
G
C
F
F
Yeah
what
they
had
mentioned-
basically,
I
don't
know
100
of
what
their
procedure
is,
but
I
know
it's
probably
going
to
be
power
washing
sanding
rough
edges
off
making
it
smooth
and
prepping
it
for
the
install.
A
Okay,
how
does
everybody
feel
about
doing
four
three,
two
one,
any
any
strong
feelings
about.
A
Time
yeah,
I
like
the
idea
of
having
a
unified
style
yeah.
You
know.
A
E
Diane,
I
was
just
gonna
just
mention
that
I
think
it's
smart
to
do
the
vinyl
because
of
the
elements
out
there,
and
you
know
I
just
feel
like
that-
would
really
stand
up
really
nice
with
all
this.
You
know
the
sea
mist
and
everything
out
there.
So
that
was
a
good
idea
right.
A
I
just
found
the
name
of
the
company
that
did
the
christopher
still
and
it
was
speed
pro.
Did
you
approach
them
at
all
david.
F
A
F
I
do
not.
I
had
wrote
them
a
few
of
these
questions
before
the
call
this
morning
and
I
think
that
they're
on
our
project
right
now,
because
I'm
not
getting
the
answers
quickly
as
soon
as
I
get
those
answers.
I'll
add
that
I've
been
taking
notes
of
things
that
needed
to
get
circled.
Back.
To
that,
I
didn't
know
the
answers
to
so
I'll.
Add
that,
along
with
a
quote
from
a
second
company
from
the
speed
pro
2.
A
Okay,
I
believe,
when
they
put
the
christopher
still
mural
up,
they
were
talking
about
a
minimum
of
10
years.
G
B
G
You
know,
I
think,
that's
the
issue
with
with
any
kind
of
mural.
You
have
an
impermanence
if
the
vinyl
lasts
10
years.
That's
a
pretty
good
deal,
then.
F
So
it's
it's
securing
it
for
for
a
longer
time
doing
it
this
way
versus
hand
painting,
especially
like
you
guys,
were
saying
for
for
abuse,
hand,
painting
and
putting
clear
coat
over
something
with
salt
sand.
Sun.
That's
that's
way,
rougher
to
deal
with
versus
something
like
this.
That
can
be
reinstalled
as
it's
needed
over.
You
know
a
20
30
year
span
so
that
I
I
like
that
idea
a
lot
too.
So
I'm
I'm
I'm
a
big
fan
of
that.
A
Yeah
everything
goes
to
diane
yeah,
okay
and
under
your
milestones
page,
it
said
you
will
work
with
representatives
from
the
city
directly.
I
assume.
F
Yeah
jacob
diane
and
just
to
make
sure
that
the
project's
going
in
the
direction
that
they.
A
Like
okay,
if
I
was
looking
at
the
the
scale
wall,
would
it
be
possible
for
the
committee
to
request
another
design,
especially
since
you
seem
to
be
using
that
on
other
projects.
F
You
can,
however,
I
haven't
used
it
yet
it
was
a
thought
to
use
it.
If
that,
if
that
bothers
you,
then
I
don't
have
to
use
it,
because
I
can
I
paint
for
a
living.
So
if
there's
another
design
that
I
want
to
use,
I
I
can
just
restart.
So
I
like
the
tarpon
skills
idea,
because
it's
it's
tarpon
springs
tarpon
scales,
I
mean
it's.
F
A
Well,
personally,
I,
like
the
the
colorfulness
of
your
other
images,
and
you
know
again
talking
about
like
a
unified
look
and
I
think
gaels
kind
of
throw
that
off
a
bit.
Does
anybody
else
have
any
strong.
A
C
Yeah,
just
I
agree
with
the
the
scales
not
being
maybe
the
right
location
for
you
know
or
the
right
piece
of
artwork
for
a
golf
course.
G
C
F
I
did
I
did
send
you
guys,
I
think,
as
20
or
30
designs
that
have
not
been
used.
That
are
my
recent
ones
too
and
there's,
I
think,
there's
four
or
five
tarpon
in
there.
So
care
feel
free
to
look
at
them
and
if
there's
one
that
you
think
would
be
really
good
at
that
location.
Send
it
to
me
and-
and
we
could
we
could
swap
it
out
also.
A
Okay,
so
I
guess
everyone
could
look
at
the
at
the
designs
more
in
your
leisure
and
send
your
ideas
to
diane.
After
the
meeting
I
like.
H
The
I
like
the
different
like
this
wall
with
all
the
different
things,
because
we
have
you
know
we
have
the
ibis.
We
have
the
herons,
we've
got,
you
know
different
fish
and
I
like
the
colorful
and
the
you
know
right,
they're,
not
all
the
same
yeah.
G
G
Robert
yeah,
I
have
a
suggestion
just
as
a
an
image
that
could
be
appropriate
for
the
the
the
golf
course
and
it's
maybe
I'm
being
a
little
tongue-in-cheek
with
a
shark.
H
I
D
F
F
If
you
want
that
added
to
the
shark,
that's
something
that
I
can
do
also
or
you
could
have
it
as
a
white
background.
So
just
know
that
if
there's
designs
that
you
like,
I
can
manipulate
them
and
I
can
change
them
and
and
get
them
ready
for
print.
So
I
can
adjust
images.
So
if
there's
something
you
love
about
one,
but
you
wish
it
looked
like
this,
I
can
adjust
it
so
so
that
way
it
would
fit.
What
everyone
thinks
would
work
well.
A
Okay,
well,
I
think
I
think
we
have
a
kind
of
a
consensus.
Thank
you,
robert
and
the
other
golfers,
of
course,
and
you
know
maybe
some
of
the
other
fish.
F
Yeah,
I'm
pretty
sure
everything
that
I
sent
you
has
not
does
not
have
a
license
on
it
and
it
could
be
used.
So
so
take
your
time
look
at
that.
I
think
I
have
a
few
more
images
too,
that
are
new,
that
I
just
had
finalized
I'll,
send
a
new,
a
new
email
to
diane
and
I'll
and
I'll
add
all
that
into
it
new
images,
life
of
the
install.
How
long
does
it
usually
last
and
then
last
but
not
least,
a
second
quote
from
speed
pro.
A
Okay:
okay,
and
are
you
also
aware
of
the
public
art
ordinance
that
kind
of
spells
out?
You
know,
copyrights
and
usage
and
that
type
of
thing.
A
Okay,
yeah,
that
might
that
might
be
a
good
idea.
So
when
you
know
diane
goes
to
the
city
attorney
you'll
have
a
better
idea
of
you.
G
E
I'm
just
going
to
say
one
of
the
things
that
tom
trask
will
do
is
he
will
go
ahead
and
create
the
contract
and
then
he'll
send
it
to
mr
danforth
and
then
they
can
go
back
and
forth
with
any
questions
or
whatever
to
make
sure
that
you
know
everything
is
agreeable
for
on
both
sides.
You
know
the
before
mr
danforth
would
sign
it.
You
know
kind
of
things.
A
Right
and
then
it
would
come
back
to
us
and
then
to
the
commission.
Correct
okay,
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
continue
discussion
on
this
project.
H
A
Ii,
yes,
david,
yes,
okay,
all
in
favor,
all
right,
okay,
any
opposed!
A
Okay!
Well!
Thank
you,
mr
danforth.
It
looks
like
we're
going
to
continue
the
conversation
on
your
project
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
today.
F
No
problem,
thank
you,
everybody
and
have
a
good
day.
It
was
nice
chat
with
you
and
getting
to
know
you
a
little
bit
so
hopefully
we
can
get
this
going
and
replace
these
ugly
walls
with
something
that's
attractive
and
everyone
loves.
So
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
have
a
good
day.
F
A
Okay,
we're
moving
on
to
old
business,
the
illuminated
art
boxes
again,
just
to
recap
the
15
boxes
have
been
installed.
Maybe
we
should
consider
the
next
phase
of
installation.
I
know
lucian
has
been
mentioning
a
couple
of
different
sites,
possibly
along
the
bike
trail
or
elsewhere.
A
We
had
discussed
in
the
past
doing
the
qr
codes.
I
worked
with
diane
and
alan
from
ups
to
do
just
an
informational
insert
to
replace
theo's
image
on
the
sponge.
Docks,
diane's
han
showed
that
and
I
think,
everything's
rolling
along
so
when
that
goes
up,
and
that
will
also
direct
people
to
the
brochure
her
her
staff
did.
That
has
all
of
the
description
of
the
the
paintings
and
the
artists.
A
I
guess
we
have
to
look
at
the
qr
codes
and
I've
been
thinking
about
how
to
put
them
up.
It
would
have
to
be.
You
know
like
one
on
either
side
of
the
pole,
because
the
images
are
different
and
okay,
some
of
the
boxes,
seem
to
be
unlit.
A
I
spoke
to
both
mark
well,
I
spoke
to
mark
lacouris
and
we
seem
to
think
that
since
they're
all
clustered
at
the
west
end
of
the
sponge
docks-
and
they
were
the
last
boxes
to
be
installed-
they
might
have
been
put
up
by
another
crew
and
not
properly
connected
so
he's
gonna
have
that
looked
into
with
tom
function.
A
That's
I'm
keeping
my
fingers
crossed
that
that's
the
easy
fix
it
just
seems
odd.
That
it's
just
that
little
cluster
at
the
west
end,
all
the
rest
of
them
seem
to
be
functioning
fine.
How
does
everybody
feel
about
another
call
to
artists
for
the
sponge,
docs
and
or
the
other
five
boxes
installed
elsewhere?
A
A
A
H
I
H
A
H
That
kind
of
you
know
we
need
to
start
over
with
the
time.
I
think
david,
that.
A
H
About
you
know
we're
talking
about
a
lot
of
money,
I
mean,
if
we're
paying
the
artist
a
hundred
dollars,
you
know
for
this
art
and
then
we
change
it
out,
but
you
know
go
through
it
again,
so
it
could
be
expensive
if
we
just
you
know.
A
B
A
A
You
know
that
that
awful,
but
we
don't
want
to
you-
know
overdo
it
either,
but-
and
I
know,
there's
always
a
concern
about
whether
there
should
be
any
holiday
themed
images
to
see
andy
have
any
thoughts.
I
I'm
just
thinking
we
probably
ought
to
time
it
when
mr
function's
staff
isn't
be
set
with
all
kinds
of
other
stuff
and
maybe
just
time
it
so
that
we're
off
prime
time
with
them.
A
I
That's
what
I
like,
I
like
a
six
month
interval
right.
D
A
Right,
yeah,
because
I
think
it's
first,
we
have
to
you,
know,
create
the
call
and
then
give
the
artists
enough
time
to
submit
their
work
and
then,
as
you
said,
to
go
over
it.
A
A
Okay,
I
don't
know
diane
do
I
need
a
motion
to
do
a
call
for
next
month.
E
You
all
seem
to
be
in
agreement
with
that:
yeah,
okay
and
also
just
one
just
a
side
note.
You
know
this
was
a
custom
piece
that
you
all
designed
these
limited
art
boxes.
So
I
think
it
would
be
good
for
them
to
be
out
there
for
six
months
to
test
them
and
make
sure
that
they,
you
know,
are
working
properly.
E
You
know,
because,
based
on
what
the
manufacturer
told
us
is
that
each
part
has
a
warranty,
you
know
kind
of
thing,
so
you
know
just
to
make
sure
that
you
know
it's
all
working
properly.
You
know
before
and
that
won't
affect
the
the
artwork
or
anything.
But
if
you
all
entertain
to
possibly
order
more
for
another
place,
it'll
be
good
to
you
know
just
test
them
out.
I
think
you
know.
A
Well,
if
we
send
out
a
call
to
artists-
and
we
give
the
artist
a
couple
of
months-
maybe
going
into
june
and
then
using
say
july
into
august
for
the
selection
process
and
then
september
for
the
printing
that
would
give
us
october,
which
would
be
about
a
year
from
when
they
were
first
put
up.
Does
that
make
sense
to
everybody?
I
think
so.
A
A
A
Vote
on
the
accepted
images
in
july
and
august
and
then
have
them
printed
in
september
for
installation
in
october.
A
A
Yeah
and
installed
in
the
boxes
right,
okay
and
then
I
guess
the
other
question
is:
let's
start
with
david
again
he's
in
the
cat
bird
scene.
That's.
A
Do
you
feel
about
another
another
location,
because
we
do
have
the
five
extra
boxes.
D
H
Mm-Hmm
we
have
light
poles,
I
haven't,
I
haven't
really
looked,
but
I'm
sure
there's
light
poles
out
there.
A
H
A
A
Well,
I
I
don't
think
and
again
I'm
gonna
excuse
my
memory
here.
I
don't
think
they
could
be
put
on
the
median
right.
I
Concurrence
are
on
the
side
of
the
street,
where
the
you
know
the
backs
of
those
businesses
back
up.
B
I
A
A
Yeah,
because
I
know
that
you
know
we
were
talking
about
getting
things
other
than
on
the
on
the
docks
bill.
C
B
C
I
I
I
think
martin
luther
king
is
also
a
very
heavily
pedestrian
trafficked
way.
I'd
like
you
know,
maybe
that
can
go
into
the
mix,
but
I
haven't
really
looked
at
where
the
light
poles
are
there.
B
I
A
Well,
the
thing
is
that
they
seem
to
have
the
most
impact
if
they're
clustered,
but
I
don't
think
I
I
personally
don't
have
a
problem
with
just
putting
one
here
and
one
there.
A
You
know
and
and
again
it's
just
a
phase.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
we
would
even
consider
getting
more
of
them,
and
that
would
you
know
perhaps
fill
in,
in
other
words,
maybe
maybe
put
one
on
the
beach.
You
know
one
on
mlk.
B
A
On
safford
and
then
maybe
purchase
some
more
down
the
road
and
fill
them
in
a
little
are.
I
We,
I
maybe
missed
something:
are
we
thinking
about
lightening
up
a
little
bit
at
the
docks
and
moving
those
someplace?
Are
we
keeping
all
of
those
at
the
docks?
I.
A
G
So
they
need
to
be
put
in
a
place
where
you're
going
to
have
pedestrian
traffic
in
at
night
time,
and
so
you
know
what
time
does
sunset
beach
close
sunset.
Also,
you
know
who's
going
to
be
out
on
the
street
after
dark.
This
is
not
a
a
walking
society
anymore,
except
you
know,
down
by
the
docks
or
or
right
on
tarpon
tarpon.
G
So
you
know
that
that
intersection
of
tarpon
and
safford
has
a
lot
of
street
traffic
right
and
it
has
a
lot
of
pedestrians
there
and
there
are
light
poles.
So
you
could
go.
You
have
only
five,
you
know,
but
you
could
just
you
could
go
down.
G
I
mean
you
could
go
either
north
and
south
on
on
the
bike
path,
which
would
encompass
that
if
you
had
a
few
more
you
could
go
east
west
up,
you
know,
so
you
could
cover
some
of
the
the
nighttime
locations
right
and
and
because
you
get
too
far
down
safford
towards
the
dog
park,
it
gets
dark
down
there
I
mean.
G
I
know
I
have
a
studio
on
that
street
and
but
it
is
there,
you
know
there
is
a
there's,
a
new
brewery
down
there,
but
I
don't
know
how
late
they're
open
and
going
south
you're
running
you're
gonna
run
into
those
apartments
eventually.
G
A
G
A
A
E
I
was
just
thinking
like
maybe
I'll,
also
consider
orange
and
lemon.
You
know
like
where
the
library
is
and
then
orange
from,
like
south
pinellas,
going
to
what
is
that
park
or
whatever
in
there,
because,
where
there's
all
those
restaurants
and
downtown,
but
it's
like
off
of
downtown,
but
it's
also
very
walkable
for
people.
You.
A
A
A
Perhaps
the
the
most
efficient
thing
would
be
to
incorporate
whatever
art
we're
going
to
need
for
the
next
phase,
with
the
general
call
to
artists
and
then
just
have
you
know,
40
selected
images
instead
of
the
30.
and
then
we
can.
You
know
we'll
have
a
few
months
to
decide.
Everybody
could
go
out
and
do
drivewise
and
find
out
what
the
best
location
lucian.
I
Yeah,
we
got
a
whole
lot
of
submissions
from
a
few
artists,
and
so
we
had
a
discussion
and
decided
to
limit
submissions
to
one
per
artist
correct,
but
I
think
I
think
we
ought
to
go
for
two.
Okay,
that
makes
sense
just
to
give
artists
a
little
flexibility
and
in
what
they
want
to.
H
Yeah,
this
is
also
I
want
to
remember,
and
hopefully,
it'll
be
better.
The
next
call,
especially
with
the
art
association,
because
I'm
going
to
fuss
at
them,
but
we
didn't
have
that
many
really
good
selections.
I
didn't
think
I
think
we
need
more
art.
You
know,
I
think
too.
I
think
you're
right,
because
we
didn't
have
enough.
I
don't
think
to
select
just
one
from
each
artist.
H
A
So
it
would
be
a
one
or
two
images
per
artist
right,
correct,
okay,.
A
Okay,
well,
I
think
that
just
about
does
it
for
the
art
boxes,
the
christopher
still
nero
advent
health,
that's
still
in
progress,
elizabeth
indiano's,
the
cultural
center
mural.
A
You
would
be
the
yep
person
to
headline
that,
so
I
think
it's
definitely
deserving
of
a
you
know:
a
splash,
okay,
the
sponger
project
I
spent
a
morning
with
annie
dabs
she's,
the
president
of
the
rose
hill
cemetery,
discussing
the
black
heritage
of
tarpon
springs,
and
we
were
talking
about
expanding
the
projects
conceptually
to
include
other
phases
of
black
contributions
to
the
community,
and
I
was
thinking
about
somewhat
similar
with
lucienne
is
doing
which
she's
going
to
discuss
in
a
minute
is
to
set
up
a
committee
for
community
outreach
to
get
the
temperature
of
what
project
and
media
would
appeal
to
the
residents.
A
Okay,
I'll
continue
to
work
on
that
diane
sisler
field
murals.
Yes,.
E
We
have
three
artists
that
are
interested
in
doing
the
mural.
I
have
re-um.
I've
received
one
proposal
and
its
completion
and
expecting
the
other
two.
So
for
your
march
meeting
you
will
have
the
three
and
maybe
they'll,
be
you
know
one
more:
it's
not
february
26,
yet
they
still
have
a
little
bit
of
time
and
I'll
probably
throw
it
out
there
on
social
media.
One
more
time,
just
to
you
know,
say
your
time's
almost
up,
please
you
know
so
that
was
exciting.
E
You
know
to
to
get
those
and
so
you'll
get
that
for
your
march
meeting.
A
Okay,
I
guess
somewhere
along
the
line.
I
I
don't
know
whether
I
can
foist
this
off
on
the
guys,
but
some
of
the
artists
were
asking
for
the
dimensions
of
the
building,
so
I
don't
know
whether
I
I
emailed
tom
function,
but
I
never
heard
back
from
him.
Yeah.
A
A
B
H
D
So
we
received
an
email
back
from
tom
right,
and
what
do
you
remember
that
date
that
he
was
saying.
E
Oh,
it's
probably
usually
like
it's
in
a
budget
cycle,
so
things
are
usually
finalized
in
august.
You
know
for
budgets
with
procurement
and
they
would
be
ordering
probably
around
august.
D
C
E
E
I
think
it
kind
of
depends
on
the
city's
budget
as
to
how
many
they'll
order.
We
probably
won't
know
that
until
august,
so
we'll
have
to
let
you
know,
then
you
know
about
you
know
how
many
there
be.
Then
you
could
put
the
call
out
for
the
kids.
A
Okay,
okay,
now
on
this
one
are:
are
we
sticking
to
the
thousand
dollar
and
under
fee,
or
are
we
just
doing
children's
art?
That's
up
to
you.
D
A
B
A
C
And
again,
if
the
the
target
is,
you
know
the
younger
population,
you
know
maybe
a
location
for
it.
We've
talked
the
beach
the
sunset
beach,
we've
also
talked,
maybe
around
the
schools
there
on
golf.
C
That's
great,
and
with
that
you
know,
do
you
follow
it
with
with
a
a
program
through
the
the
art
classes,
at
the
schools,
to
really
push
for
some
young
artists
to
come
forward
and
get
their
art
published
in
the
community?
I
don't
know,
I
think.
C
E
Right
other
than
the
refrigerators
well,
then,
maybe
you
could
give
a
donation
to
if
they
do
that
with
the
schools
I'll
we'll
have
to
talk
to
tom
trask.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
do
public
art
funds
for
that,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
give
the
donation
to
the
school
for
art
supplies
or
something.
You
know.
B
A
A
Right
any
other
discussion
on
the
the
containers
sounds
like
everything's
in
hand
yeah.
I
We
are
continuing
to
have
discussions
with
the
property
owner's
daughter
and
through
her,
the
property
owner
and
loan
white
law,
who
has
been
an
invaluable
member
to
this
committee.
He
has
advanced
the
conversation
simply
because
he
knows
so
much
about
the
history
of
the
site
and
has
been
able
to
suggest
ideas.
I
I
have
passed
along
everything
that
you
all
have
sent
to
diane
and
those
have
gone
directly
to
both
lynn
and
the
property
owner,
and
I
think
they
all
of
your
ideas
as
specific
and
or
general
as
they
have
been,
have
helped
the
project
become
more
real
to
her
and
with
that
have
come,
some
questions,
some
very
real,
practical
questions
about
using
her
private
property.
I
So
we're
just
we're
talking
and
we're
going
slowly
and
just
trying
to
build
an
awareness
of
what
the
project
can
be.
I
don't
expect
something
to
pop
up,
even
in
the
next
couple
of
months.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
slow
process
and
it
needs
to
be
so
keep
coming
with
your
ideas,
because
everything
I'm
able
to
pass
along
moves
us
a
little
further
down
the.
I
C
Has
there
been
any
discussion
with
with
anyone
with
the
city
based
on
the
traffic
around
that
particular
area,
because
it's
a
very
interesting
intersection
and
what
I'm
thinking
is
there
might
be
some
answers
to
the
homeowner
if
we
get
some
guidance
on
the
intersection
itself
and
can
delineate
the
area
that
we're
talking
about
either
with
curbing
or
some
other
means,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
take
someone
to
look
at
the
traffic
pattern
there
to
make
sure
that
you
know.
We've
got
an
idea
of
what
the
city
would
want
to
see.
E
Be
diane,
probably
bob
robertson
or
maybe
renee,
with
the
permitting,
and
things
like
that.
You
know
I
I'd
have
to
ask
and
you'd
have
to
give
me
specific
questions.
So
I
know
who
would
vet
it
you
just
I.
I
don't
see
what
the
traffic
pattern
has
to
do
with
the
property,
I'm
not
following
you.
So
maybe
you
could
yeah.
C
The
intersection,
if
you
take
a
look
at
it's
pretty
interesting,
I
mean
it's
got
some
cut
throughs
and
it
it's.
You
know,
and
I
think
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
laid
out
well
and
again,
if
it
delineates
the
actual
project
area
that
we're
talking
about.
I
think
that
could
be
helpful
for
the
property
owner
to
maybe
get
over
that
obstacle
of.
How
is
this
going
to
affect
me
personally.
G
Robert,
I
I
walk
my
dog
by
there
a
lot,
that's
mostly
who
goes
by
dog,
walkers
and
and
cars
zooming
by
and
that's
at
a
v.
There's
two
roads,
one
goes
into
innis
drive,
the
other
one
is
a
cramer
cramer
and
they're
almost
the
same
place
and
people
are
cars
can
come
in
and
out
almost
at
the
same
place
along
with
cars,
trafficking
along
or
traveling
along
riverside.
So
and
and
that's
a
main
drag,
you
know,
that's
a
main
road,
there's
always
cars
on
that.
G
So
it
is
a
difficult
place
for
any
kind
of
attraction
like
that.
You
know
it.
It's
almost
more
a
drive-by
location,
gonna
get
out
of
your
car
and
visit
location
because
there
just
is
no
place
to
park
unless
you're
going
to
be
on
somebody's
yard,
because
the
the
roads
are
not
developed
enough
to
have
parking
or
anything.
Is
that
your
feeling
with
that.
C
G
It's
hard
to
tell
there
because
some
some
of
those
properties
are
really
big.
They
extend
well
beyond
the
houses
and-
and
you
know
you
don't
know,
what's
city,
what's
private,
so
it's
a
and
and
it's
it's
just
you
know
it
seems
to
me
to
be
it's
a
it's
a
complex
little
area.
It
is,
and
it's
very
visible
though
I
mean
it
can
be
very
visible.
G
It
could
be
with
the
right
approach,
but
it's
it's
complicated
in
the
other
way
and
that
it's
privately
owned
and
whatever
you
put
up
there
has
to
be
possibly
removed
at
some
point.
G
They're
offered
to
the
city
to
buy
it
or
or
to
lease
it
there's
been
a
lot
of
situations
where
museums
I've
been
involved
in
a
museum
in
in
tennessee
that
has
a
sculpture
in
its
one
of
our
sculptures
in
its
collection,
carol's
in
mine,
on
in
a
public
park,
and
yet
the
the
museum
owns
the
sculpture.
G
So
in
order
to
work
it
all
out
the
the
museum
leased,
the
the
public
park
land
for
a
dollar
for
a
year
a
hundred
years
and
a
lot
of
municipalities
have
that
kind
of
arrangement.
You
know
some.
G
The
art
museum
in
chattanooga
tennessee
is
being
leased
a
dollar
a
year,
to
I
mean
a
dollar
a
century
to
from
the
city,
so
that
works
out
all
the
insurance
stuff
and
whatever
goes
on
and
maintenance
requirements
and
things,
but
that's
something
that
would
if
you
could
do
that,
if
you
could
lease
it
for
a
hundred
years,
then
you
could
go
more
permanent
program.
E
B
I
E
Right
but
robert
is
right,
you
know
what,
because
that
is
such
a
pass
by
you
know
with
the
traffic
goes
by
so
quickly.
I
mean
it.
Whatever
you
put,
there
would
have
to
be
something
that
would
be
ex.
You
know
explain
itself.
Basically,
you
know,
like
people
can't
wouldn't
be
able
to
pull
over
and
stop
and
read
something
you
know
they'd.
It
would
have
to
be.
You
know
large
enough,
or
you
know
self-explanatory
kind
of
piece
of
art.
You
know
of
why
it's
there.
You
know
kind
of
thing,
so
it's
gonna
be
interesting,
see.
G
What's
up
it's
a
question
of,
let
me
say,
civil
engineering
as
to
whether
that
is
an
attractive
nuisance
to
passing
traffic.
I
know
that
in
some
projects
we've
had
you've.
You
have
to
have
a
civil
engineer,
talk
to
you
about
sight
lines
about
how
you're
blocking
the
view
from
the
traffic
coming
from
the
other
street.
G
So
you've
got
to
be
able
to
have
an
awareness
of
what's
happening
on
another
street.
So
I
don't
know
whether
this
would
would
complicate
that
in
in
in
its
civil
engineering
phase
of
things
which
is
different
than
structural
engineering,
and
but
it's
something
to
be
considered
with
putting
public
art
in
a
traffic
zone,
because
it
could
could
just
attract
un
unwarranted
attention
that
could
cause
an
accident.
C
B
C
A
Thank
you
for
your
hard
work
on
this
okay.
The
next
item
is
a
handout
from
diane.
I
think
we
should
be
very
proud
of
the
fact
that
we
got
quite
a
few
mention
in
this
diane.
A
It's
the
the
newsletter,
the
january
newsletter
for
the
florida
association
of
public
art
professionals,
diane's,
really
gotten
the
qual
to
artists
out.
It
was
on
the
front
page,
there's
a
little
blurb
about
the
illuminated
box
tour
and
the
two
glenna
goodacre
installations,
so
tarpon
springs
really
showed
up
well,.
A
Okay,
new
business-
and
I
guess
diane
also
gave
us
a
handout
on.
Oh
that's
that's
later,
oh,
is
the
new
and
unsolicited
artist
proposals
suggested
procedures.
E
A
A
A
Okay,
the
next
one,
is
a
little
more
weighty
discussing,
in
addition
to
the
ordinance
to
the
effect
that
any
public
art
project
or
municipally
municipality,
funded
artwork
that
is
being
considered
for
removal,
including
painting
over
an
art
piece
like
a
mural
or
relocation.
A
A
A
You
know-
and
you
know
just
not
drive
down
the
road
one
day
and
see
it's
gone,
and
you
know
it's
just
like
you
know.
Diane
made
sure
everybody
knew
that
the
story
time
was
in
for
restoration
and
that
they
just
didn't
go
for
a
walk.
G
A
G
Does
this
call
for
the
artist
being
notified?
A
Yeah
but
basically
I
think
it's
in
the
ordinance
that
once
an
artist
does
is
paid
by
the
city
for
their
artwork.
The
city
owns
the
rights,
but.
G
G
A
Right,
so
is
there
any
discussion
on
the
wording
of.
A
H
Okay,
it's
talking
about
notifying
the
pack,
but
also
that
we
have
to
give
permission
to
do
it
right.
A
Well,
the
only
thing
I
was
thinking
about
is,
if
perhaps
it
was
a
piece
like
a
sculpture,
would
give
us
the
opportunity
to
relocate
it
if
it
was.
If
somebody
wanted
to
move
it,
you
know.
A
Why
don't
I,
I
think,
everybody's
in
agreement,
that
we
should
do
something
like
this,
but
why
don't
we
give
it
some
more
thought
and
bring
it
back,
bring
it
back
next
month,
yeah.
E
E
I
could
mention
it
to
her
and
we
could
you
know,
bring
bring
that
back.
The
next
meeting
if
you'd
like.
B
A
Okay,
now
we
have
the
the
wandering
mother
and
child
next
on
the
agenda.
E
Well,
I
love
saint
kate
art
but
they're
not
the
best
at
responding
very
well.
I
usually
have
to
reach
out
to
them
about
three
times
before
or
threaten
them.
Then
I'm
going
to
go
get
another
company
before
I
get
them
to
give
me
an
answer
sometimes,
but
they
do
great
work
and
I
have
every
confidence
in
them.
But
you
know
they
have
done
the
maintenance
on
the
nyads
and
they
said
that
was
in
good
shape.
E
Everything
looked
pretty
good
and
then
they
also
did
the
anna
at
omaha
I
mean
at
craig
park.
They
did
not
repair
it
yet
they're
gonna
come
back
and
do
that,
but
they
were
just
saying
commenting
that
you
know,
like
the
second
coat
that
they
put
on
and
everything
of
alma
really
brought
out
even
more
beauty.
You
know
in
the
statue
and
then
never
in
my
wildest
dreams.
I
don't
know
why.
I
guess
you
know
just
ignorance
of
you
know
what
needed
to
be
done,
but
you
know
for
story
time.
E
You
know
I
just
expected
them
to
work
on
the
you
know
the
statue
right
there
right
and
so
when
he
told
me
that
they
took
the
bench
I
go,
you
did
what
he
goes
yeah
he
goes
you're
we
need
to.
You
know
we'll,
go
ahead
and
store
the
statue
in
the
cultural
center
and
we're
taking
the
bench
because
we
got
to
do
all
this
stuff
to
it.
You
know
it's
like,
oh,
my
goodness.
I
said
I
kind
of
needed
a
couple
days
to
prepare
the
public
and
to
prepare
everybody
in
tarpon.
E
E
So
anyway
it
was.
It
was
comical,
but
you
know
it
also
made
me
panic,
because
I
knew
that
the
city
was
going
to
be
getting
some.
You
know
some
phone
calls
going
hey
what's
going
on
here
right,
but
I
think
it
was
for
the
most
part
averted
and
they
were
explaining
that
they
needed
to
take
off
the
current
varnish
and
then
they
needed
to
go
ahead
and
stain.
E
So
I
think
it
based
on
what
he
told
me
it'd
be
out
for
like
seven
to
ten
days,
so,
possibly
by
the
end
of
next
week.
I
think
we'll
probably
have
our
our
mother
and
child
back
okay,
yeah
so,
and
then
I
wanted
to
ask
you
all:
are
you
going
to
bring
back
the
discussion
of
just
so
of
the
murals,
the
danforth
murals
for
march
and
vote
on
it?
Then
after
he
gets
the
information
back
right?
E
A
From
him
you
can
okay,
disseminate
it,
and
you
know
give
us
some
more
thought
about
it
and.
E
Then,
as
far
as
city
announcements
go
to,
probably
the
public
art
committee
will
be
giving
their
annual
state
of
address
to
the
boc.
Probably
late
april.
May
oh
okay,
so
it'd
probably
be
a
good
idea
to
get
some
of
these
things
up
and
done
so
yeah.
E
E
Oh
well,
you
know
the
way
they
have
a
lot
on
their
agendas,
so
sometimes
that'll
get
pushed
back,
but
I
just
wanted
us.
You
know
to
be
aware
and
ready,
and
then
the
final
thing
I
have
is
that
you
know
I
was
thinking
about
all
the
wonderful
things
that
you
all
are
doing,
and
you
know
I
also
you
know
I
wanted
you
to
think
about.
E
You
know
how
many
different
types
of
public
art
there
are
out
there.
So
I
was
just
having
fun
one
day
and
you
know
decided
to
just
kind
of
download
a
whole
bunch
of
pictures
and
just
put
them
in
a
handout
for
you
all
just
so
you
could
be
thinking
about
maybe
some
new
projects
you
know
moving
forward
because
I
know
you're
planning.
E
Maybe
this
will
give
you
some.
You
know
ideas
of
some
really
kind
of
interesting
places
that
you
can
put
some
of
these
things,
because
I
thought
that
some
of
those
things
that
were
out
in
the
water
were
kind
of
neat.
Oh
yeah
yeah
like
some
of
the
seagulls
and
that
one
kinetic
art
where
that
would
turn
with
the
wind
and
everything
and
then
the
I
thought
the
kids
paved
a
path
on.
The
third
page
was
really
kind
of
neat
too
that
they
could
run
around
in
craig
parker
one
of
the
other
parks.
A
Mourning
the
demise
of
the
pelican
project,
I
know,
but
it
would.
A
E
E
A
Yeah,
what
I
was
thinking
about,
too,
is
the
possibility
of
an
open,
ending,
ended,
call
to
artists,
for
you
know,
just
kind
of
ideas,
for
you
know
innovative
projects
like
this.
If,
if
somebody
could
just
kind
of
send
us
some
ideas
of
you
know
something
that
they
might
be
planning,
I
think
it
would
be.
It
would
be
interesting.
E
I've
looked
at
some
things,
you
know
with
different
cities
that
different
cities
calls
to
artists
are
doing
you
know,
especially
on
the
west
coast.
They
seem
to
be
doing
a
lot
on
the
west.
I
mean
the
east
coast
of
florida
and
some
very
interesting
things
like,
for
instance,
they
sank.
They
did
a
big
treasure
chest
and
sank
it
in
the
ocean
with
another
wreck,
because
it's
going
to
proliferate
coral.
E
A
tourist
diving
site-
and
I
thought
we
have
one
right
off
of
you-
know
tarpon
here,
it's
the
military
one
where
people
can
dive
right
and
I
thought
well,
that's
kind
of
cool.
We
could
do
something
like
that.
You
know
here
too
I
mean
maybe
that's
how
they
should
recycle
some
of
the
the
old
greek
sponger
boats.
You
know
it's
kind
of
like
put
them
down
there
and
create
a
little
park
or
something,
and
then
I
don't
know.
A
Well,
yeah
I
mean
with
with
covid
and
everything
else
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
health
or
oriented
recreation.
You
know
like
kayaking
and
scuba,
diving
and
stuff
like
that
that
people
can
do
you
know
on
their
own.
You
know
without
being,
and
you
know
exposing
themselves.
So
that's
that's
really
a
good
idea.
E
E
The
birds
right
yeah,
so
basically,
if
you
guys
like
something
on
one
of
these
pictures,
we
can
use
this,
as
you
know,
use
as
a
sample
and
put
a
call
out
to
artists
and
say
we
want
something
that
moves.
We
want.
Something
bubble
looks
colorful,
and
this
is
where
we
want
it,
and
this
is
your
budget
right,
but
you
know,
and
robert
can
maybe
speak
to
this
a
little
bit
more,
but
you
know
I
think,
it's
very
helpful
for
an
artist
when
they
know
kind
of
what
their
budget
is.
G
It's
the
number
one
question:
yeah
yeah
you,
you
can
have
the
greatest
idea
and
if
you're,
if,
if
you're,
two
zeros
off
from
what
the
other
person
thinks
you're
not
going
to
get
anywhere
and
it's
just
those
zeros,
those
darn
zeros.
G
B
G
So
you
know
that's
an
impressive
piece
for
you
know.
People
are
going
to
really
love
that
because
it
creates
the
underwater
experience
and
stuff.
But
you
know
that's
500
000,
but
you
aren't
going
to
get
those
kind
of
requests.
Unless
you
have
it
open
and
just
say
you
know,
whatever
your
bud,
what
do
you
think
your
budget
is
for
this
and
then
maybe
there's
somebody
out
there
wants
to
invest
in
it.
C
A
A
Okay,
the
next
regular
meeting
is
oh
city,
announcements
that
was
it
mine,
oh
okay.
Next
regular
meeting
is
going
to
be
wednesday
march
10th
at
2
p.m.
Here,
and
do
I
hear
a
motion
to
adjourn?
I
move
trish
second
bill.