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A
A
B
C
A
Member
Robert
Stackhouse
is
excused
for
medical
reasons
and
I'd
like
to
introduce
our
new
member
Dawn
arbitello
Dawn.
If
you
would
just
tell
us
a
few
quick
things
about
yourself.
D
Sure
I
have
lived
in
Tarpon
Springs
for
a
little
over
11
years
now.
I
live
here
with
my
husband
and
my
two
dogs
I'm,
a
graphic
designer
slash,
creative
services
manager
by
trade,
I'm,
also,
a
digital
marketing
consultant
and
recently,
a
publisher
of
a
children's
book
or
not
publisher,
illustrator
and
I'm
really
excited
to
join
the
team.
Yes
well
Welcome
to
our
merry
band.
A
Thank
you
and
I.
Guess
you,
you
know
the
procedures
and
everything
and
you've
been
sworn
in
and
yeah:
okay,
okay,
we
have
no
guests
today
and
I
assume
that
everybody's
had
a
chance
to
read
the
minutes
from
the
last
meeting,
oh
by
the
way
Dawn,
since
we
have
two
vacancies,
you'll
be
able
to
vote
today.
Oh.
A
E
E
C
A
Okay,
we
go
to
Old
business.
Current
project
updates
I
just
quickly.
Wanna
I
didn't
see
it's
it's
on
here,
but
we
do
have
an
attachment
for
the
Elizabeth
Indiana
film
that
accompanies
her
mural
in
the
cultural
cultural
heritage
center.
A
E
E
The
check
requests
have
been
submitted,
we're
waiting
for
the
city
to
process
them
and
issue
the
checks,
the
the
actual
skins
or
whatever
you
call
them
have
been
submitted
to
the
public
works
department
and
we're
waiting
for.
E
Installed
and
so
everything
is
moving
along
and
we're
just
in
waiting
for
the
the
final
couple
of
pieces
so
that
we
can
put
it
to
bed
until
next
July,
okay,.
F
F
They
were
starting
to
be
installed
yesterday,
they're
being
completed
today.
So
you
know
that
could
have
been.
The
issue
is
that
they
were
installing
them,
but
they
didn't
get
a
chance
to
hook
everything
up
so
okay,
they
said
it
should
be
completed
today.
Excellent
and
I
did
send
the
press
release
out
today
for
the
announcement
of
the
the
new
artwork
so.
A
G
G
Well,
when
you're
into
interesting
subjects,
you
know
it's
easy
to
talk
a
lot.
Okay,
so
there's
a
lot.
A
lot
been
going
on.
We
had
a
site
meeting
with
some
folks
from
Public
Works,
Joanne
and
Diane
were
both
there.
It
was
incredibly
productive
thanks
again
Joan
for
being
there,
because
welcome
I
had
no
clue
as
to
what
the
potential
move.
Thoughts
are
the
on
that
first
site
and
it
would
have
been
possible
to
really
pin
it
down.
G
It's
right
on
the
waterfront
right,
Beyond,
The,
Visitor
Center
a
few
misgivings
about
that,
but
I
mean
in
terms
of
getting
there,
because
it's
not
right
on
the
main
drag
but
I'm,
considering
some
small
additions,
something
to
help
bring
people
who
are
tourists
along
the
street
back
there
at
night.
It's
not
a
problem,
probably
because
it
could
be
lit
and
it
could
be
really
beautiful
between
frame
between
two
big
palm
trees
right
by
the
water.
G
So
in
one
some
ways,
it's
actually
even
more
appropriate
because
it's
right
there
that
Gateway
literally
frames
the
bay.
So
that
was
really
helpful
on
the
second
site.
It
was
really
helpful
to
have
the
water
quality
Water
waste
storm
runoff
fellow
named
Tony
manello
there
I'm,
following
up
with
him,
I
just
left
his
office
and
he's
given
me
two
people
to
speak
to
Shannon,
Brewer
and
Tony
officer,
Tony
Boone,
so
we're
going
to
get
more.
He
actually
had
a
great
suggestion,
because
I
brought
him
a
sketch
based
on
my
measurements.
G
They
actually
probably
could
have
on
there.
They've
got
a
digitized
streetscape
they'll,
be
able
to
exactly
right
down
to
the
millimeter
whatever
that
site
triangle
in
terms
of
visibility.
So
we'll
we're
on
the
path
of
solving
that.
That
day
was
also
helpful.
That
I
got
to
spend
some
time
with
David
Archie
of
recap,
because
I
wanted
to
kind
of
acclimate
them
to
what
was
going
on.
G
They've
been
seeing
me
around
the
site
for
a
long
time
in
and
out
the
staff
there
I
want
to
tell
him
about
just
begin
the
conversation
about
the
opportunity
that
there
is
to
have
this
artwork
out
there
and
maybe
use
it
as
an
educational
thing
for
youth
in
the
community
and
also
about
that
security
camera.
We
we
discussed
that
so
and
get
into
that
later,
but
we
did
discuss
that
I
was
able
to
make
three
visits
to
the
Historical
Society
one
with
the
archivist.
All
of
them
were
really
helpful
in
different
ways.
G
Setting
up
to
do
more
with
the
archivist,
because
what's
happening
is
like
I've
got
more
than
I
expected
in
of
history.
That
I've
been
digesting
and
it's
been
really
interesting,
exciting
and
it's
going
to
help
me
Target,
like
requests
for
certain
things,
as
I
kind
of
make
a
narrative
out
of
the
visual
pieces.
G
So,
let's
see
so
I've
been
exploring
the
city
in
that
light
by
foot,
bicycle
and
driving
and
I
also
met
with
Carolyn
Lanford
the
principal
planner,
because
I
got
went
to
that
Grant.
You
were
the
one
who
sent
out
to
me.
Then
I
looked
at
our
line
and
I
just
wanted
to
basically
say
you
know
to
her.
G
A
lot
of
the
Dynamics,
a
lot
of
the
historical
events
and
some
of
them
really
really
are
even
really
helpful.
Like,
for
instance,
I
found
an
image
of
Annie
dabs
on
the
the
Union
Academy
had
their
first
ever
reunion
in
the
history
and
I
got
a
picture
of
her
holding
up
the
old
her
class
picture
from
so
it's
like
that
is
incredible,
so
I'm
finding
out
more
details
about
what
was
here
like
there
was
a
black,
odd,
Fells
Hall.
G
That's
going
to
be
a
specific
request
to
see
if
I
can
find
it
from
from
the
archivist
of
historical
society,
and
there
was
also
like
a
better
Boys
Club,
but
I
found
out
in
my
research
that
was
actually
in
in
the
Union
Academy
school,
so
I'm
solving
some
of
the
prop
the
issues
as
I'm
going
along.
G
What
else
is
there
it's
a
specific
Quest
yeah?
So
all
of
that
all
of
this
information
is
percolating
and
it's
going
to
help
me
make
that
visual
narrative,
better
than
I,
had
imagined,
initially
I.
Think
it's
going
to
really
seep
in
and
have
significance
to
people,
and
so
that's
that's
exciting.
Meanwhile,
I'm
also
making
some
material
purchases
and
things
to
gear
up
for
the
construction
stuff
like
that
and
just
checking
on
the
timing
and
the
costs
of
the
materials.
G
G
It's
it's
amazing,
and
you
know
the
what
happens
is
the
more
you
probably
know
the
sitting,
because
the
more
you
get
involved
in
this,
the
more
the
more
you
study
it,
the
more
it
starts
synchronizing
with
other
larger
pictures
and
that
in
all
scales,
so
it's
really
exciting
and
here's
another
example.
G
G
Well,
one
of
the
Articles
was
literally
about
like
the
based
on
the
description,
the
they
were
going
to
tear
these
buildings
down
so
I'm
like
I,
can't
like
it's
like
a
bullseye,
so
I'm
gonna,
see
if
I
can
find
images
of
that.
But
it's
that
that's
kind
of
precision
on
some
levels.
It's
so
it's
kind
of
it's
kind
of
fun,
there's
more
too
I
want
to
get
into
all
of
it.
Yet,
but
that's
right.
E
E
G
I
can
help
you
describe
so
when
you're
on
dodecanese
and
you
come
up
to
that
Welcome
Center
sign
and
then
the
building
is
right
there
behind
that,
like
parked
layer
parking
just
to
the
left
of
that
is
like
a
an
area,
but
it's
from
a
reserve
Marina
parking
and
there's
a
gate
kind
of
a
black
fence
that.
F
G
Oh
yeah,
so
that
parking
lot
goes
all
the
way
back
to
the
Waterfront
and,
at
the
end,
as
I
think
it
was
Tony
or
Brandon
pointed
out.
Those
end
parking
spaces
are
kind
of
not
really
parking
spaces,
so
he
said
you
could
put
this
thing
here.
So
that's
a
great
idea
so
enable
basically,
once
you
go
to
the
if
you're
facing
the
visitor
center,
you
go
right
to
the
left
past
their
entrance
on
the
side.
G
G
G
The
sculpture,
so
it's
actually,
you
know
when
you
think
about
the
Avenue
there's
a
lot
going
on
and.
C
G
Been
looking
at
all
aspects,
including
how
I
mean
it's
like?
How
do
you
actually
fit
anything
there
to
get
those
illuminated
art
boxes
in
it's
almost
like
there
was
I,
mean
there's
a
lot
going
on,
so
just
to
be
visually
catch
people's
attention
and
then,
of
course,
one
of
the
issues
with
the
sighting
initially
was
they
were
afraid
of
visual
distraction
whatever
that
means,
but
well.
A
It's
like
what
was
the
idea
of
there's
a
bus,
stop
there
and.
G
A
So
if
people
are
even
driving
past
and
they
stop
to
look
at
it,
it's
it's
gonna
yeah,
you
know
create
like
bottlenecks,
so
I
think
it's
I
think
we
we
all
figured
out
that
it
was
a
much
better
site.
So.
C
G
Understand
it
and
the
way
I'm
thinking
about
compensating
is
maybe
trying
to
find
through
something
maybe
smaller
or
rare,
because
it
is
a
rare
people
right,
get
off
the
trolley
and
wear
pedestrians
and
newcomers
and
people
you
know
would
maybe
see
so
maybe
there's
a
way
that
we
can
tease
them
in,
because
the
big
thing
I
think
my
biggest
thing
about
this
is
I.
Just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
first
sculpture,
which
is
in
the
most
visible
high
profile
area,
could
lead
you
to
the
second
one
right.
That
was
really
the
main
issue.
A
E
G
G
G
I
think
I,
don't
think
I've
seen
it
closed
either
right,
but
I
caught
a
little
bit
of
feeling
like
maybe
but
I
think
this
may
help
to,
and
there
probably
could
be
other
things
to
be
done.
I
know
it
actually
notice
that
when
you
go
into
that
Historical
Society
you
go
on
one
way,
but
there's
no
ramp
to
go
down
the
other
way.
There's
no
stairs
even
like
a
little
couple
steps
right.
C
G
A
Well,
you
mentioned
something,
and
you
know
I
don't
know
if
we
could
pull
it
off,
but
it's
that
acrylic
dolphin
out
in
front
of
the
information
center
and.
C
G
That
was
yeah.
It
was
one
of
my
brainstorming
and
kind
of
on
the
move.
I
was
the
The
Conch
Shell
course
is
it's
a
universal
C,
but
also
it
connects
directly
with
this
culture
because
they
that's
what
there
was
a
symbol
for
that
the
Bahamian
Community,
particularly
so
I,
was
thinking.
Maybe
there's
a
way
to
help
pull
people
in
there
without,
like
you
know,
because
you
have
a
even
though
it's
a
great
site,
it's
it's
a
distance
back
from.
C
E
Yeah
honey,
don't
throw
the
research
materials
away.
Oh.
G
I
H
I
G
Actually,
two
okay,
so
one
of
them
is
located
there
and
welcome
to
the
board
by
the
way
one
of
them
is
located
there
on
SpongeBob,
the
other
one
was
a
Union
Academy
neighborhood,
which
is
the
corner
of
gross
and
Martin
Luther,
King,
Drive
and
so
1.6
miles.
Okay,.
I
So
it's
going
to
be
one
a
sculpture,
I
was
just
wondering
just
I
mean
I'll
go
by
and
look
as
far
as
bringing
the
artwork
out
towards
the
street
more
like
in
front
of
the.
Instead
of
back
in
that
parking
lot
up
in
front
of
when
you
go
by
in
front
of
the
the
Harbor
Masters
office,
yeah.
C
A
I
A
Well,
that's
where
that's
where
he
was
originally
going
to
put
it
on
that
little
island
yeah,
but
the
the
thing
is
I
I've
been
I
was
in
a
meeting
with
you,
know,
mayor
vatikiotis
and
mark
lacouras,
the
city
manager
and
Paul
Smith,
and
they
were
concerned
about
putting
it
there
because,
as
I
said,
people
would
be
piling
up
because
it's
a
trolley
stop.
You
know
if
people
get
off
and
they're,
because
that
little
island
is
not
that
big
right
right
and
there's
parking
right
there,
so
you've
got
you've,
got
dodecanese.
I
A
E
Yeah,
this
is
an
issue
with
the
with
the
Pelican
bench
and
sculpture
as
well
is
is
getting
people
who
are
walking
on
the
street
on
on
dodeconis
to
understand
that
there
are
things
closer
to
the
water
that
they
need
to
go
to
and
and
I
I've
been
thinking
about
that
I
don't
have
a
good
solution.
A
D
No,
it
sounds
very
exciting,
though
I'm
I'm
gonna
do
some
more
research
on
locations
and
stuff,
so
I
can
get
a
visual
picture,
but
I'm
really
excited
to
see
how
it
goes
forward.
Also,
I
I
agree.
We
should
save
these
materials
and
maybe
think
about
doing
a
further
project
that
if
it's
not
a
book,
maybe
you
know
some
something
online
that
people
could
look
at
and
we
could
have
a
sign
with
a
QR
code
or
something
and
let
everybody
enjoy
that
rich
history,
yeah.
H
G
G
True
I
mean
it's
a
it's
an
interesting
balance,
this
project,
because
there's
a
lot
of
visual
information
is
getting
in
distilled
into
it
or
baked
into
it,
but
as
an
art
piece,
you're
not
trying
to
be
as
didactic
as
a
museum
display
and
all
that
other
stuff.
You
know
it's
a
kind
of
it's
a
kind
of
it's,
so
it's
probably
appropriate
to
have
something
like
that.
B
C
G
Welcome
that
might
be
one
thing
that
might
be
one
of
our
solutions
to
the
as
people
come
in.
You
know
they
could
look
at
the
code
and
bam.
Oh
wow,
really
all
that
it's
actually
the
opposite,
because
the
idea
from
a
physical
standpoint
is
to
get
something
visually
beautiful
to
draw
people
in
right.
But
that's
another
approach,
yeah,
so
I'm
gonna!
Think
about
that.
A
A
Okay:
okay,
let's
see
the
Riverside
field,
mural
project
and
I,
think
in
your
handouts
you
have
a
picture
of
the
revised
design
and
I.
Remember.
At
the
last
meeting
we
suggested
to
her
that
she
changed
the
black
to
Brown
I.
Think
it's
made
a
big
difference.
C
A
Okay,
so
the
next
step
is
her
materials.
There's
a
page
here
with
her
materials
estimate,
which
is
380.,
so
that's
I,
think
very
reasonable.
So
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
the
pruso
design
for
the
buildings
as
submitted.
A
Okay,
is
there
any
discussion,
comments,
yeah
I
said
I
missed.
H
C
H
Okay,
so
this
was
because
we
had
did
we
entertain
the
I
mean
I
saw
a
few
things
come
through
on
the
email,
but
so
hers
is
basically
one
proposal
for
the
two
sides.
How
did
we
break
that
up
again?
Yeah.
A
It's
well,
the
colors
are
the
same,
but
if
you've
noticed
right,
I
get.
A
Soccer
right,
okay,
so
okay,
good
girl,
all
right.
So
so
the
thing
is
that
when
she
submitted
it
for
the
last
meeting,
everything
that
you
see
is
brown
who's.
Black
yeah
I
saw
that
it
was
a
little
right
and
I
know
Robert
Stackhouse,
especially,
was
you
know
strongly
suggesting
that
she
changed
the
color
scheme.
C
A
She
did
and
I
think
it's
it.
A
H
C
C
A
A
Yeah,
if
you
saw
the
the
building
at
Sizzler
field,
you
know
that's
it's
kind
of
the
same
idea
and
you
know
if,
if
something
looks
unfinished
like
what
we
did
with
sister
field,
is
we
just
picked
up
one
of
the
colors
and
just
painted
one
of
the
walls
of
solid
I.
A
Right,
you're,
all
negligent
gonna
be
beating
all
of
you,
okay,
so
all
right.
So
all
in
favor
of
the
project.
I
E
A
Okay,
Joy
Giorgio
sackelson
won
the
naming
contest
and
I
asked
her
to
send
me
a
little.
You
know
snippet
of
her
rationale
for
for
naming
it
and
that's
what's
on
the
signage
and
I
think
it.
You
know
one
of
the
criticisms
about
it
is
that
it's
whimsical
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
but
I
think
this
kind
of
goes
a
long
way
to
tying
it
back
to
the
community.
Yes,.
E
A
And
I
added
this,
the
paragraph
on
the
bottom.
A
So
it's
all
ready
to
be
installed
right.
Diane,
I,.
A
A
Oh
okay,
all
right.
So
the
next
thing
we
have
to
do
is
a
press
release
and
photo
op
with
with
joy
and
the
Mater
and
I
guess
any
of
us
who
would
like
to
also
attend
Diane
I.
Guess
we
can
just
I,
don't
think
we
have
to
do
it
now,
we'll
just
run
some
dates
by
her.
Yes,
we
have
to
run
everything,
especially
by
the
mayor
and
everybody
else.
Okay,
so
I
Diane,
a
very
nice
job
with
the
sign.
Thank
you
sure.
C
A
Okay
and
the
other
part
of
the
handout
is
the
you
know:
a
briefed
update
from
Elizabeth
about
the
film
okay.
We
have
a
new
roster,
so
Dawn
you
can
run,
but
you
can't
hide.
Okay.
I
Well,
I
thought
we
had
spoken
that
we'll
try
and
find
somebody
in
the
city
to
go
ahead
and
right
and
see
if
they
can't
do
the
touch
up.
You
know
and
repair
and
maintain
it
as
opposed
to
trying
to
replace
it
at
this
time.
Right.
A
Diane
I
believe
you
have
an
update
on
that.
Yes,.
F
Did
talk
to
the
public
works
and
they
will
go
ahead
and
and
have
somebody
go
out
and
maintain
it
for
us.
I
asked
them
to
do
it
now
and
then
to
you
know
just
we'd.
Let
them
know,
but
I
was
told
them
roughly.
Maybe
every
six
months.
A
A
Just
to
give
credit
where
credit
is
due,
Eddie
Mullally,
who
owns
the
Neptune
Cyclery
on
the
bike
trail
indicated
that
you
know
he
would
be
willing
to
take
a
look
at
it,
but
you
know
I,
think
it's
it's
great,
that
the
public
works
department
has
taken
it
on
so
yeah.
You
know,
keep
keep
it
for
the
city
Megan.
The
budget
update
and
developer
contributions.
C
B
Well,
as
the
art
box,
artists,
payments
will
all
be
taken.
Care
of
so
it'll
be
a
little
bit
different
next
month.
Right.
B
Okay
and
then
we
do
have
a
couple
updates.
Getting
our
public
art
fee
for
Flagship
bank
is
7,
681.36,
great
and
then
Pat
McNeese.
Let
me
know
that
they've
just
signed
off
on
a
North
Lake
Estates
development.
B
A
Okay,
the
CRA
mural
project,
Dawn
you're-
probably
not
familiar
with
this,
but
the
CRA.
It's
the
community
redevelopment
agency,
okay,
okay
and
it's
a
geographically
defined
area
in
the
city
that
has
is
this
accurate
Diane?
They
have
like
a
separate
funding.
A
You
know
budget
and
everything
like
that
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners
passed
a
resolution
saying
that
if
anybody
wants
to
do
a
mural
on
their
business,
they
would
contribute
up
to
I.
Think
it's
fifteen
hundred
dollars,
it's
a
it's
a
match.
So
it's
it's
on
the
on
the
agenda.
It's
kind
of
a
rolling
thing,
but
to
date
we
haven't
had
anybody
put
an
application
in
so
I
have
a
feeling
that
you
know
there.
A
Yeah
it's
on
the
city
website.
There
was
some
publicity
when
it
was
first
done,
and
you
know
it's
as
I
said
it's
one
of
the
few
things
that
gets
funded
on
you
know
from
from
on
private
property
right.
But
the
thing
is,
it
doesn't
come
out
of
our
budget,
but
we
have
to
approve
the
artwork
okay,
so
somebody
has
to
come
up
with
something
you
know.
Okay,
you
know.
Something's
really
did.
D
We
put
appropriate
did
we
put
anything
on
like
Tarpon
Springs
happening
or
anything
like
that.
F
H
Biba
have
particular
business
has
been
approached
like
have
we,
you
know
kind
of
maybe
done
a
visual.
You
know
drive-by
of
what
businesses
have
walls
that
might
be
a
great
place
and
actually
approach
them
to
say.
Hey
have
you
thought
about
this
like
it
might.
C
H
Make
them
aware
yeah
yeah,
like
I,
think
a
personal.
You
know
something
more
personal
right
and
is
usually
gets
people
more
interested
than
expecting
them
to
see
something
on
a
random
website
that
they
never
go
to.
A
Well,
I've
always
felt
it
was
one
of
my
personal
challenges
to
make
people
aware
of
things.
Yes,
it's
not.
H
E
Know
there
are
two
terrific
examples
on
West
toppen
Avenue.
You
know
the
that
can't
even.
E
The
Chris
still
won
and
the
and
the
other
one
yeah
yeah.
A
D
A
F
F
D
H
Do
we
not
consider,
maybe,
instead
of
having
the
business
owner
pay?
Maybe
you
know
our
out
of
our
budget
or
something
or
the
city's
budget?
Maybe
we
completely
fund
it
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
do
we're
beautifying
our
city?
It's
not!
You
know
it
might
be
hard
for
some
of
those
businesses
to
Shell
out
that
money.
Well,.
A
The
the
thing
is
it's
by
having
having
yet
the
concept
of
a
match
is,
like
you
know,
having
the
property
owner,
have
some
skin
in
the
game
right
and
it's
the
price.
It's
the
property
owner
that
has
to
put
in
the
request,
not
the
business
owner
right.
A
But
you
know
if
you
want
to
go
back,
you
know
and
look
at
what
the
discussion
was
before
the
board
of
commissioners,
where
they
put
where
they
set
this
up.
That
might
give
you
some
insights
into
you
know
what
their
rationale
was
for
setting
it
up
the
way
it
was
right.
H
And
I
mean
I,
get
all
those
rationales
and
I
kind
of
seen
them
a
little
bit,
but
you
know
I'm,
just
thinking
that
and
right
now
it's
kind
of
difficult
for
people
to
for
a
lot
of
these
small
businesses
to
Shell
out
even
15
to
100
200
2
000.
You
know
if
there's
only
you
know
two
walls
that
would
work,
isn't
really
that
hard
for
us
to.
A
Well,
the
the
thing
is
when,
when
this
came
before
The
Board
of
Commissioners
I
took
it
upon
myself
to
call
some
local
muralists
and,
for
the
most
part,
they're
charging
between
five
and
seven
hundred
dollars.
Oh,
that's
it!
That's
it
yeah,
so
I
mean
so
you're
talking
about
coming
up
with.
You
know,
250
to
350.
I.
A
Yeah,
no,
it's
you
know
and
to
do
it
on
a
you
know,
on
private
property
right.
You
know,
and
you
know
one
of
our
our
things
lately.
In
fact
that's
going
to
be
the
next
topic
is
that
we're
really
trying
to
you
know,
do
projects
on
public
property
and-
and
you
know,
because
there's
there's
all
kinds
of
I
call
it.
The
L
word
liability
right.
So
you
know
I
mean
we
had
a
very
good
project
in
the
works.
A
When
I
first
came
on
this
committee
and
it
was
called
the
artist
alley-
and
you
know
it
was
pretty
much
pretty
far
along
and
Jules
eichmeyer
and
Rod
Martin
had
actually
got.
You
know
the
little
it's
like
a
little
alley
that
goes
from
hibiscus
to
the
bike
trail.
A
You
know
it
comes
out
like
right
between
Tarpon
Tavern
and
the
bistro.
A
And
they
had
approached
all
of
the
building
owners
back
there
and
had
gotten
permission
to
put
murals
back
there.
We
were
going
to
put
solar
powered
lighting
back
there,
so
it
would
be
a
place
where
people
could.
You
know,
go
to
the
restaurants.
Have
a
drink
stroll
back
there
and
look
at
all
the
artwork
it
would.
You
know
really
liven
up
that
whole
thing
and
it
basically
got
shot
down
because
of
liability
concerns,
so
I'm
sure
Diane
will
vouch.
For
me,
I
mean
we
went.
A
A
You
know,
Mark
likoris
found
out
that
if
someone
has
paid
a
thousand
dollars
or
less
they're
considered
a
limited
subcontractor
and
they're
automatically
included
in
the
city's
liability
insurance.
So
that's
why
we
have
the
thousand
dollar
benchmark.
A
So
you
know:
we've
we've
we've
gone
through
as
I
said,
we
jumped
through
a
lot
of
Hoops
to
get
to
where
we
are.
But
you
know
I
appreciate
your
asking
the
question
because
you
guys
are
new
and
I've
been
yeah.
You
know,
especially
Diane
and
I
have
been
slogging
through
this
for
years.
A
So
it's
you
know
it's
just
it's
just
very,
very
difficult.
You
know
and.
F
I
think,
what's
important
and
from
what
Joan
is
saying
too,
is
that
you
know
one
of
the
things
we
learned
over
the
years
is
that
you
know
we
can
all
come
up
with
some
really
good
ideas
and
everything,
but
the
the
whole
instead
of
moving
forward.
You
know
quickly
it's
best
to
kind
of
vet.
It
out.
You
know
really
well
ahead
of
time,
find
out
what
the
you
know.
Some
of
the
challenges
are
going
to
be.
You
know
and
then
see
if
it's
viable
to
overcome
them
or
not.
A
That's
the
yeah,
the
Safford
Gateway
project
right,
you
know,
lucianne
had
done
a
lot
of
work
on
that
and
it's
it's
like
these
things,
just
pounce
at
you
out
of
the
bushes.
You
know
all
of
a
sudden.
You
think
you've
got
this
great
project
going
and
you
know
she
was
even
connected
to
two
Landscape
Architects
to
get
some
ideas
about.
You
know
creating.
You
know
something
that
was
appropriate
for
the
site
and
you
know
where
ammo,
no,
just
can't
do
it.
You
know
for
one
reason
or
another:
that's
a
shame.
A
So
you
know:
I
had
a
crazy
idea
many
years
ago
to
do
a
holographic
Christmas
parade
down.
Doe,
decanese
and
I
actually
have
even
found
a
company
from
Canada
that
would
do
it
and
he
came
down
and
well
he
did
some
Google
Earth
searches
yeah
and
we
couldn't
do
it
because
our
infrastructure
isn't
tall
enough.
You
need,
you
know
like
at
least
four-story
buildings
for
the
projection
cameras,
but
that
would
have
been
so
cool.
You
know
to
have
these
creatures.
You
know,
fly
down
the
street,
yes,.
G
Stephen,
it
actually
reminded
me
of
my
conversation
with
Carolyn
Lanford
I
only
say
that,
like
that,
it
can
only
be
the
benefit
for
somebody's
ideas,
to
sort
of
synchronize
with
the
planning
it's
exciting,
because
you
can
see
where
the
up
like
when
you
it
piqued
my
attention.
When
you
said
hibiscus,
because
I've
been
looking
at
all
of
these
streets
and.
G
Have
been
there
and
there's
such
a
rich
potential
of
connecting
making
I
think
I
call
it
overlay
of
these.
So
it's
like
a
matrix.
These
different
things.
C
A
A
It
was
during
covid,
because
people
you
know,
could
you
know,
keep
their
distance,
but
it
created
a
problem
for
the
cathedral.
A
So
it's
like
dominoes,
you
know,
you've
got
you
know,
one
thing
impacts
another
and
you
know
because
I
know
well
the
the
restaurant
owners
and
even
the
the
people
just
loved
it,
but
you
know
just
wasn't
doable
so
anyway.
It
sounds
like
my
life.
Okay,
all
right,
ordinance,
review,
okay,
I
went
before
the
TRC
technical,
Review
Committee
and
with
the
changes
we
made
to
the
public
art
committee
ordinance
and
they
made
some
minor
wording.
Tweaks
and
it's
I
just
spoke
to
mark
this
morning.
A
F
F
Might
be
on
the
19th
but
I'll
check
on
it
for
you,
okay,.
A
Okay,
so
Dawn
I
hate
to
give
you
a
lot
of
homework.
But
you
know,
if
you
haven't
already,
you
should
go
through
the
ordinance,
the
public
art,
ordinance,
okay
and
it
wouldn't
be
a
bad
idea
to.
As
I
said,
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
has
its
own
YouTube
channel,
and
these
are
all
recorded
and
archived.
So.
G
A
Get
a
little
more
of
a
grasp
of
you
know
what
we've
got
going
on
here:
gotcha,
okay
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Sponge
boat
and
the
sponge
exchange
wrote
Diane.
F
That
that
Nick
brought
up
at
one
of
our
previous
meetings,
I
asked
them
about
it,
and
it
was
actually
brought
up
at
a
former
boc
meeting
for
funding.
I
think
I
sent
that
email
out
to
everybody
did.
I
Anybody
attend
yeah
that
meeting
I
went
the
first
board
meeting
after
we
met
last
month.
I
attended
I
got
there
half
hour
early
I
thought
it
started
at
six.
First
time,
I'd
been
early
for
anything,
you
know,
but
I
did
see
you
know
sitting
in
there,
then
the
mayor
and
city
manager
both
arrived
same
time.
So
I
went
down
there
and
spoke
with
them
and
they,
you
know,
should
I.
They
said
it
was
on
the
consent
agenda.
I
You
know
and
then,
since
I
didn't
really
have
to
hang
around,
and
they
told
me
that
you
know
that
the
boat
would
be
hauled,
it
hasn't
been
hauled
out
yet.
C
I
They'd
already
made
arrangements,
you
know
with
the
boat
yard
to
come.
Take
it.
C
I
I
suspect
it's
going
to
be
in
good
hands.
You
know
Gulf
Marine
ways
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
Wally
Erickson
is
the
gentleman.
C
C
I
A
I
I
A
To
have
it
all
right
and
stuff,
so
yeah,
okay,
Kyle,
Pierce,
sculpture!
That's
that's
mine!
A
couple
of
years
ago,
Kyle
Pierce
came
to
he's
a
local
metal
work.
Artist
came
to
a
meeting
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
we
had
actually
arranged
for
him
to
do
a
series
of
pelicans
right
where
the
Mike
Elwell,
Pelican,
sculpture,
is,
and
he
kind
of
vanished.
A
A
Okay,
did
you
have
I
censors
a
draft
of
the
of
the
sculpture
but
he's
making
they.
A
Okay,
maybe
I-
maybe
it's
probably
in
my
dress,
so
I
don't
know,
but
anyway
he
is
working
on
a
Chrome
version
of
Sylvester,
the
Cat,
okay
and
old
time.
Tarponites
remember
there
was
a
cat
that
was
down
by
the
Two
Georges,
who
would
actually
jump
into
the
end
quote
and
come
out
with
fish.
Oh,
my
goodness
and
I
think
over
the
years
there
was
a
succession
of
Sylvester's
okay,
but
it
is
part
of
the
you
know.
The
local
lore
and
you
know
he's
got
quite
a
history.
A
So
so
anyway,
Kyle
is
gonna
he's
already
working
on
it.
He
was
hoping
to
have
it
finished
by
the
meeting,
but
it's
going
to
be
finished
next
week.
So
he's
working
on
this
chrome
version
of
Sylvester,
the
cat
and
the
price
for
the
sculpture
is
2500
and
you
know
he
would
install
it
and
create
a
you
know
a
base
for
it.
So,
let's
see,
if
I
can
find
that
it's
still
kind.
A
F
D
H
E
A
Works,
he
recycles
I
think
it's
about
yay
yeah.
He
works
with
recycle
recycled
automobile
parts
like
chrome,
bumpers,
and
things
of
that
sort
is.
H
H
A
Random
cat,
like
the
one
I
own,
that
came
off
the
Dachshund,
so
I'd
like
a
motion
to
approve
the
acquisition
of
Sylvester,
the
cat
from
Kyle
Pierce
for
twenty
five
hundred
dollars.
A
A
E
E
C
A
C
A
Okay,
second,
second,
all
in
favor,
aye
aye
all
opposed
okay,
unanimous
we're
getting
a
Sylvester,
the
Cat,
okay
I.
Also,
this
is
not
on
the
agenda
but
Trish
Gregory
who's.
The
president
of
the
Tarpon
Springs
Art
Association,
wanted
to
know
if
we
would
sponsor
a
couple
of
copies
of
this
their
paint
and
photo
thanks.
Okay,
they
put
out
a
pretty
extensive
brochure
for
this,
and
if
you
look
at
the
sheet,
there
were
various
yeah
sponsorship
levels,
so
I
guess.
A
F
E
A
The
thing
is,
I
was
thinking,
I
was
thinking
of
maybe
putting
a
couple
of
Flyers
around.
You
know
like
in
the
art
galleries,.
C
A
You
know
see
if
we
could
get.
You
know,
attract
more
people
to
apply,
so
we.
A
Yes,
but
I
I
think
it
would
be
nice
for
this
because
I
I
sent
you
recall
what
we
did
the
last
time
was.
We
did
a
full
page
that
had
our
logo
and
you
know
the
various
projects
that
you
know
we
have
in
in
town.
A
H
A
These
are
all
local
artists,
so
yeah.
Okay,
so
can
I
have
a
motion,
no
motion:
okay,
Viva,
whole
page,
okay,.
A
F
Send
excuse
me,
since
Dawn
is
a
graphics
artist.
Maybe
she
would
be
a
good
person
to
do
the
ad
I
would
love
to
you've
been
volunteered.
A
That's
there,
you
go
yes,
okay,
so
was
there
a
second
on
Bieber's
motion
to
take
out
a
full
page?
Yet
so.
E
Yeah,
can
we
can
we
give
Dawn
permission
to
talk
to
other
committee
members
about
what
might
be
in
that
ad,
or
is
she
just
on
her
own
to
come
up
with
the.
E
F
D
F
E
A
C
D
I
have
I've
perused
it
a
little
bit
but
I'll
look.
D
A
Okay
and
I
have
a
lot
of
images
awesome.
Okay,
so
if
you
just
maybe
confer
with
Diane
and
she'll,
let
me
know,
although
this
is
informational,
isn't
it.
E
A
D
E
D
F
E
F
The
only
issue
that
we've
talked
about
in
the
past
for
the
public
art
committee
was
when
we
were
talking
about
putting
like
a
sticker
on.
We
were
talking
about
stick
putting
a
sticker
on
the
actual
polls
for
the
illuminated
art
boxes
and
then
it
came
up.
You
know
the
the
issue
that
you
know.
People
can
modify
something
like
that.
You
know
kind
of
thing,
so
you
have
to
be
really
careful.
D
D
And
what
you
can
you
know
essentially
how
they
work?
It's
just
you
know
the
computers
reading
it.
So
people
can
scratch
dots
or
or
whatever
out
so
it
won't
work,
but
I've
never
heard
of
anybody
like
manipulating
it
to
go
somewhere
else.
They
just
make
it
they
render
it
unusable
right,
but
yeah.
If
it's
printed
in
a
book
like
this
I
think
we're
safe,
yeah.
A
H
H
A
D
A
A
B
It
was
this
past
weekend.
It
was
fabulous
events
and
sold
out
and
Victorian
Christmas.
The
Safford
house
is
decorated
in
Christmas
style
until
at
least
Epiphany.
It
is
open,
Wednesdays,
Thursdays
and
Fridays
from
11
to
2
30..
So
it's
beautiful.
If
you
want
to
get
a
little
of
that
Christmas
spirit.
F
F
A
Yes
and
again,
I'd
like
to
wish
everyone,
Merry,
Christmas,
happy,
holidays,
happy
and
healthy
2023
frame.