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Okay,
approval
of
the
meeting
minutes.
I
would
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
amend
the
minutes
bill.
Second,
lucian.
Okay.
I
noticed
that
the
minutes
contained
the
almost
word
by
word.
Sorry
marissa.
You
were
just
too
efficient
on
this
one.
A
A
So
I
would
like
to
amend
the
minutes
to
delete
all
of
the
detailed
comments
on
that
on
that
entry,
and
I
would
like
to
call
for
a
vote
on
that
marissa.
Could
you
call
the
role
please
and
after
we
is
there
any
discussion?
We
do
have
a
question
in
a
second
I'm.
B
Not
quite
sure,
I
understand
just
delete
this.
A
Right
just
yeah
right
all
of
the
the
detailed
comments,
in
other
words
from
miss
robinson
all
the
way
down
to
the
morgan
group.
The
thing
is
that
it's
all
archived
on
youtube.
It's
it's
recorded
in
archives,
so
you
know,
I
don't
feel
the
need
to
present.
You
know
the
comments
in
such
detail
in
the
minutes.
A
Usually,
the
only
time
they
were
detailed
commentary
in
the
minutes
is
whether
something's
an
action
item
requires
a
motion,
a
second
and
a
vote,
so.
D
A
Okay
motion
to
amend
the
minutes
as
delineated
is
carried:
okay
old
business,
the
sports
field,
mural
project
david's,
not
here
bill.
I
think
we're
still
on
a
waiting
on
the
construction
construction.
D
D
So
it's
probably
to
the
point
where
we
want
to
maybe
speak
with
some
of
the
coaches
of
both
the
soccer
and
and
football,
and
get
some
some
feedback
as
to
what
might
be
nice
on
the
concession
building
up
on
on
top
of
the
little
knoll
or
hill.
So.
D
F
A
Okay-
oh
just
let
me
backtrack
a
little
bit
about
the
minutes.
There
was
an
entry
in
the
minutes
about
the
presentation
from
bob
robertson,
a
city
employee,
about
the
semaphore
arm
at
the
train
depot,
and
I
think
it
was
voted
on
and
decided
at
last
night's
board
of
commission
meeting
that
they're
going
to
repair
the
exit,
the
original
existing
semiforearm.
E
A
Right
illuminated
artbox
qr
codes.
I
received
an
email
on
march
1st
from
suzanne
litton,
who
is
the
head
of
the
I.t
department
here
in
city
hall,
and
her
email
read
as
follows:
we
recommended
we
recommend
qr
codes,
only
for
non-stationary
installations,
a
tv
screen,
flyer
brochure,
menu
etc
is
fine,
but
not
on
a
sign
installed
somewhere
where
a
public
entity
could
deface
it.
A
So
I
guess
that
eliminates
the
the
idea
of
using
the
qr
code,
okay
project
updates
the
black
heritage
project.
The
selection
panel
was
asked
to
review
the
four
highest
ranking
projects.
Their
consolidated
comments
were
sent
to
the
artists.
A
One
just
came
in
just
before
the
meeting
from
stephen
oliver,
so
I
did
send
an
email
out
to
the
selection
panel
asking
their
preference
as
to
not
only
dates
but
method
of
meeting
either
in
person
or
and
maybe
we
could
get
that
small
room,
the
senior
information
room
in
the
library-
it's
probably
the
best
place.
So
when
I
get
some
responses
diane
we
can
coordinate
that
sure.
Okay,
does
anybody
have
any
comments
or
questions
about
the
progress
on
this?
A
A
I
think
when,
when
we
get
something
finely
honed
down,
as
I
said,
most
of
most
of
the
concerns
expressed
by
the
selection
panel
were
didn't
address
the
art
per
se,
but
you
know
some
tweaking
as
to
like
the
size
of
the
images,
the
proportion
of
the
images
in
terms
of
putting
a
cultural
emphasis
on
something
you
know
it's,
so
it's
as
you
can
well
imagine
it's
a
very
delicate
project.
A
A
Okay,
all
right
now
we
get
to
the
exciting
part.
The
water
project
was
in
do
and
can
I.
A
Let
me
just
say
that,
and
I
think
diane
can
vouch
for
this.
It
was
you
know
it
took
me
a
while
to
get
a
response,
and
I
think
robert
can
also
they're
just
extremely
busy
and
they're
short
staffed
and
they're
the
only
game
in
town.
So.
B
Lucian,
yes,
I
know
we
have
talked
a
lot
about
this
project.
I
thought
it
was
time
to
consolidate
every
thing,
every
location,
every
idea,
every
concept
just
so
we
can
keep
this
discussion
alive.
B
We've
talked
about
art
pieces
that
would
also
serve
as
cooling
stations.
I
have
some
examples
in
here
and
thank
you
diane
and
marissa
for
copying
all
the
images.
I
think
that's
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
didn't
expect
that,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
would
like
to
proceed
through
each
of
these.
With
the
questions
I've
asked.
A
You
know
what
I'm
inclined
to
do.
I
think
most
of
the
other
agenda
items
we
could
probably
get
through
pretty
quickly
and
I
think
maybe
we'll
come
back
to
yours
in
detail.
Okay,
does
that
seem
to
work
for
everybody,
we'll
kind
of
clear
the
decks?
Okay,
michelle
sasha
the
storm
drain
proposal.
Diane.
Do
you
want
to
yes.
F
There
is
in
your
handouts,
her
original
work,
what
she
sent
to
me,
her
application
kind
of
thing
and
then
what
she
showed
me
on
back
like
some
of
the
samples
that
she's
done
of
drains,
and
so
I
she
contacted
me
in
february
like
right
before
our
february
meeting,
and
I
told
her-
we
had
a
full
agenda
and
that
we
could
bring
it
forward
in
the
march
meeting,
but
I
reached
out,
I
told
her
that
she
would
need
to
go
ahead
and
provide
the
detail
overview
of
the
project.
F
E
F
Try
to
call
her
again
and
see
if
you
know
I
can
see
if
she's
still
interested.
So
if
you
would
like
to
just
postpone
this
or
two
yeah.
A
We
can
do
that,
and
also
in
my
secret
and
clandestine
purchase
of
girl
scout
cookies.
I
spoke
to
the
woman
who's
the
one
of
the
troop
leaders
here
in
town
and
she
indicated
that
they
might
be
interested
in
getting
a
proposal
together
right
so
and
as
as
with
the
last
group,
I'd
probably
want
to
elect
them
to
congress
as
well.
A
Okay,
statue
information
plaque,
the
elbow
pelican
at
the
sponge
docks.
Thank
you
diane
for
preparing
the
the
mock-up,
but
I
wanted
to
know.
Do
we
want
to
keep
the
same
name
that
the
sculpture
was
given
in
saint
when
it
was
sitting
in
saint
pete
for
the
tampa?
It's
a
play
on
words
for
the
tampa
bay
rays,
or
do
we
want
to
rename
the
piece
and
if
we
rename
it,
should
it
be
done
by
the
pack?
Should
we
make
a
recommendation
to
have
a
contest?
E
A
Robert
well,
it
seems
like
okay,
do
you
want
to
make
it
sort
of
an
open
contest?
Do
you
want
to
restrict
it
to
children?
Do
you
want
to.
A
B
Great
idea,
maybe
there
could
be
some
signage
right
down
there
next
to
him.
That
would
give
instructions
like.
A
Yeah
yeah
also,
I
think
it
might
be
interesting
and
probably
would
help
with
this
if
we
could
include
a
little
piece
of
the
the
history
of
that
spot
and
why
we
felt
it
appropriate
to
put
a
pelican
there.
That
might
be
fun
too.
F
Via
email
well
to
me
and
then
to
her
okay.
F
Okay,
we're
pretty
it's
pretty
crazy
right
now,
so,
if
you
all
can
do
that
for
us,
that
would
be
helpful
next.
B
A
Yeah,
okay:
this
is
just
an
announcement.
The
public
art
workshop
with
robin
franklin
nye
will
be
march
31st
at
10
a.m,
and
we
would
like
to
she's
going
to
make
a
presentation
of
what
they
do
in
the
city
of
tampa.
But
diane
would
like
us
to
prepare
an
email
to
her
some
questions
prior
to
the
presentation
at
our
earliest
convenience
yeah.
I
did.
F
Send
you
all
a
request
to
send
me
like
two
to
three
of
your
top
questions?
You
know
that
you
would
have
for
them
because
they've
been
doing
it
for
so
many
years
and
they've
got
quite
a
large
department
that
handles
their
public
art.
You
know
so
they've
probably
seen
and
done
it
all.
So
she
would
like
to
share
a
little
bit
about
their
program
and
she's
gonna
be
on
zoom,
so
we're
going
to
set
this
up.
Mark
jump
has
already
reached
out
to
her
to
get
her
set
up.
F
So
if
you
could
get
those
to
me
by
march
14th
next
monday
or
you
know
or
wednesday,
at
the
latest,
that
way
I
could
send
her
and
she
could
have
time
to.
You
know,
prepare,
and
I
told
her
if
she
had
any
handouts,
that
she
would
like
for
you
all
to
have
that
she
could
email
them
to
me
and
I'll
make
copies
for
that
meeting.
You
know
so
I
I
just
wanted
it
to
be.
You
know
if
we're
gonna
do
this
and
we're
going
to
take
your
extra
time.
You
know
to
to
commute
again.
F
I
just
wanted
it
to
be
something
that
would
be
very
productive
and
I
feel,
like
she's,
got
a
lot
of
good
information
to
share
in
the
times
that
I've
talked
to
her.
She
just
is
a
wealth
of
information,
so
I
thought
it'd
be
beneficial.
Yeah.
A
Okay,
the
cra
mural
project.
There
are
no
submissions
for
this
month.
As
you
know,
this
is
just
going
to
be
and
the
agenda
is
a
rolling
item.
I
did
have
a
question.
Somebody
asked
me
about
a
mural
in
the
ahepa.
A
It's
done
already
so,
but
it
raised
the
question
for
me
is
whether
this
grant
would
apply
to
something
done
in
an
interior
space
that
is
to
some
extent
open
to
the
public,
so
you'd
probably
have
to
you
know
if
you
could
find
out
yeah.
F
A
With
the
you
know,
with
the
proviso
that
the
interior
space
is
some
place,
that's
accessible
to.
A
Okay,
the
cra
production
art.
I
think
we
all
have
some
suggestions
where
these
can
be
put:
okay,
okay,
location
approval
or
recommended
alternative
location.
A
My
recommendation
and
I'm
going
to
ask
you
all
for
yours
as
well:
public
director
public
works
director.
Tom
function
has
already
researched
and
made
recommendation
on
their
placement
around
or
in
the
live
oak
recreation
spaces,
and
I
think
that
that
would
probably
be
a
good
location
for
the
force
pieces,
with
the
two
dog
statues
being
next
to
the
dog
park.
F
E
C
A
question
that
looking
at
this
map,
so
you
have
at
the
dog
park,
you
have
you
put
in
the
dog
statues
in
the
dog
park,.
A
A
C
A
And
debbie.
E
C
A
C
That's
a
good
question
bill,
because
what
is
the
what
what's
the
prominence
of
all
the
stuff
we
have
in
town?
I
mean
how
much
of
this
can
you
call
art
and
how
much
of
it
is
production
art
and
are
there
other
pieces
that
are
more
in
that
line?
Well,
I
don't
know
the
history
of
everything
that's
here,
but.
A
We
did
in
fact
we
voted
against.
I
think
it
was
six
to
one
against
recommending
that
the
you
know,
public
art
committee
had
have
anything
to
do
with
these,
because
they
are
production,
art
they
were
purchased
with
cra
funds.
They
were,
you
know
located
for
you
know
in
cra
type
of
property.
So
I
think
our
input
is
aesthetic
and.
E
C
A
You
know
when
it
came
up
at
the
board
of
commissioners
meeting
as
kind
of
a
fade
accompli
for
the
placement.
You
know
they
voted
to
bounce
it
back
to
us.
So
our
only
responsibility,
in
my
view
and
I
open
to
any
kind
of
disagreement
or
dis
discussion-
is
simply
to
place
them
as
aesthetically
as
we
see
fit.
F
E
A
F
A
I
robert,
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
what
kind
of
what
were
they
about
three
thousand.
They
were.
A
A
C
They're
a
turtle,
you
know
a
bronze
turtle,
kids
will
sit
on
it,
they'll
love
it.
You
know
it's
like
those
things
in
the
malls
yeah,
but
is
that
art
or
not?
I
mean
that
that
is
a
good
question
in
in
public
art,
where
it
is,
you
know
it's
like
grades
of
you
know,
shades
of
gray
stuff
that
we
deal
with.
D
F
F
C
Also
a
kind
of
a
a
time
or
a
date,
you
know
an
era
kind
of
issue.
What's
today's
production,
art
is
tomorrow's
collector's
art
yeah
that
that
can
be.
The
thing
I
mean
you
know
like
saint
peter
again:
has
those
statues
with
broken
off
arms
and
stuff
scattered
around
the
park?
I
don't
know
what
they're
called
there.
I
don't
know
whether
that's
or
it
came
from.
C
It
adds
to
the
place
yeah,
but
but
it's
and
then
when
does
that
become
when
does
that
become
something
that's
for
for
being
quote
unquote,
art,
I
I
think
it's
like
fake,
fake,
picassos
and
and
fake
dollies
that
people
buy
on
on
cruise
liners
yeah.
That's
that's.
Definitely
not
art
right.
A
A
A
A
A
B
I
I
think
that
takes
us
out
of
the
selection
aspect
of
it.
E
A
Bill
trish,
robert
okay.
I
think
we
have
a
unanimous
opinion
on
that.
Let's
see,
I
think
at
this
point
we
can
go
back
to
lucian.
I
think.
D
It
appears
that
the
location,
if
someone
would
decide
to
do
an
in-kind
piece
of
artwork
instead
of
a
donation
that
there's
very
little
control
that
we
actually
have
with
that
location
if
it's
considered
to
be
public
art
and
and
again
the
point
of
reference
with
the
the
group
that
was
in
to
visit
us
the
last
time
they're
looking
at
placing
it
in
the
front
area
where
you
enter
off
of
19.
D
D
So
whether
it
be
a
car
wash
or
a
you
know,
I
think
there's
a
precedent
there
that
we
could
have
someone
that
just
decides
to
put
something
in
their
parking
lot
as
they
go
down
19,
which,
if
that's
the
main
bulk
of
the
development
that
we're
going
to
have
as
potential
funding
that
could
be.
You
know
problematic
for
us,
with
with
funding
going
forward.
D
I
did
pull
a
and
sent
to
diane
the
city
of
doral
has
some
interesting
and,
and
probably
they
they
inched
along
that
a
little
bit.
So
it
wasn't
a
real
hard
line
that
that
was
placed
in
in
their
ordinance
for
it.
But
it
was
mentioned
that
the
the
public
art
would
have
a
yay
or
an
a
for
the
location.
A
I
think
it's
definitely
under
consideration.
I
did
some
poking
around
and
I
did
I'm
glad
you
brought
this
up.
I
did
find
out
that
you
know
we
do
have
some.
I
think,
a
little
more
potential
funding
opportunities
than
we
may
have
thought,
because
when
we
were
discussing
the
heron
sculpture,
we
were
worried
about
budgets.
A
There
are
two
well
there's
one
car
wash
on
19
and
there's
another
one
on
the
corner
of
klostermann
in
19
and
I'm
having
somebody
look
into
whether
or
not
that
that's
actually
in
tarpon,
because
I
think
the
gas
station
across
the
street's
in
palm
harbor.
So
you
know
sometimes
the
line
runs
diagonally.
So
we
have
to
check
that
out.
A
There's
the
clerk's
office
and
I
think
it
was
ascertained
that
even
if
a
city
does
a
sizable
project
that
you
know
they're
still
bound
by
the
public,
art
donation
and
there's
a
couple
of
other
large
housing
projects.
That
would
also
so
I
think
that
we
have
five.
C
A
Is
I
don't
believe
that
there's
anything
in
the
ordinance
that
controls
the
placement
of
the
art
if
it's
given
as
an
in-kind,
the
the
only
one
the
only
time
this
has
come
up
in
recent
memory
was
the
ikorea
and
because
of
how
they're
located
placing
the
art
where
they
did
was
pretty
much.
You
know
it's
it's
you
know
it's
visible,
I
mean
you
know
you
can
see
it
from
walt
nineteen.
You
can
see
it
from
mirrors
so
and
it's
sort
of
in
the
middle
of
tarpon
proper.
B
I
I
think
we
need
to
work
toward
amending
the
ordinance.
B
E
Also,
what
about
the
the
townhouses
that
were
put
on
ring
street?
E
Do
we
have?
Did
they
give
us
money
for
that
which
the
ones
on
main
street
the
the
townhouses,
the
white
townhouses.
B
E
B
D
D
D
It
was
quite
evident
when
they
were
in
here
I
mean
that
was
one
of
the
things
they
were
really
searching
for.
Would
it
be
okay
for
them
to
use
that
in
their
center
turn
around
circle
and
based
upon
the
way
the
ordinance
is
written?
It
absolutely
is,
but
I
don't
know
that
all
of
us
are
confident
that
that's
a
good
place
to
place
public
public
art.
A
D
B
I
think
there
are
probably
other
issues
with
the
ordinance.
This
is
being
the
main
one,
but
there's
some
of
the
funding
language.
That
is
isn't
clear
and
I
think
we
ought
to
take
a
look
at
the
whole
thing
right.
F
Think
yeah,
let's
just
wait
until
we
find
out
a
little
bit
more
before
we
schedule
another
workshop
but
bill.
Could
you
write
a
question
like
that
that
I
could
also
send
to
robin
nye
sure
you
know
pertaining
to
ordinance
changes,
and
you
know
location
placement
stuff
like
that.
You
know
maybe
a
twofold,
because
I
think
that's
obviously
a
hot
issue
with
you
all
and
it
might
serve.
I
mean
it's
one
city
that
we're
getting
an
opinion
from,
but
at
least
we're
getting
another
perspective
too.
You
know.
F
D
More
one
of
the
things
that
that
continued
to
come
up
with
the
comprehensive
plan
is
is
branding
and
I
I
think,
there's
been
some
real
question.
How
much
this
group
could
really
help
with
that
branding
issue.
I
think
it's
a
big
issue
for
tarpon
springs.
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
here
to
do
so
much
more
than
what
we
currently
have
done,
and
I
I
just
I'm
not
sure
what
that
means
with
my
question
other
than
how
do
we
get
ourselves
aligned
to
participate
in
that
because
it's
a
huge
opportunity
going
forward.
D
F
And
I
think
that's
where
the
comprehensive
plan
comes
in
and
your
feedback
there
would
probably
be
the
best
venue
to
start
to
be
honest
with
you,
because
I
know
that
they're
doing
this
whole
study
and
everything
so
anytime,
you
can
participate
in.
What's
going
on
with
that,
I
recently
attended
one
with
you
know
some
other
people
from
the
city.
You
know
on
specific
topics
and
everything
just
getting
different
perspectives
and
everything,
and
there
were
some
really
good
things
that
came
out
of
it.
F
You
know
so
I
know
that
renee
vinson
is
kind
of
spearheading,
that
for
the
city
and
so
there's
all
kinds
of
things
on
the
city
website
of
you
know
comprehensive
plan
dates
and
things
that
they're
focusing
on.
So
I
mean
it
might
be
a
good
idea
to
maybe
make
up
a
bullet
point
or
write
like
a
memo
and
send
it
to
renee
and
say:
what's
the
best
place
to
you
know,
discuss
this.
You
know
kind
of
thing
because.
D
E
F
So
I
would
say,
put
together
a
memo
and
you
know
you
can
either
get
to
me
and
I'll
forward
it
to
renee
and
have
make
sure
that
it's
included
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
You
know
planning
or
ask
her
like.
Where
is
the
best
place,
or
you
know
procedure
of
how
to
get
that
information
to
the
people
that
need
to
see
it
because
that's
kind
of
beyond
you
know
our
scope.
Here.
It's
like.
A
It's
a
great
thing:
it
kind
of
tips
into
that.
You
know
phrase
in
the
in
the
creation
ordinance
that
we're
responsible
for
the
general
appearance
of
the
city
and
that
would
certainly
tie
into
marketing
it.
Well,
it's.
F
D
C
Well,
if
I
remember
we
weren't
even
mentioned
we're,
not
part
of
that,
I
mean
we're,
not
thought
of
we're
an
afterthought
and
after
everything's
all
well
and
done
and
all
organized
stuff.
Then
they
come
to
us
and
say
you
know,
but
if
we're
sort
of
responsible
for
the
way
tarpon
looks
somewhat,
you
know
we
need
to
be
a
little
more
proactive
in
this,
rather
than
reactive,
all
the
time.
So
it
sounds
to
me
like
it's
a
real
uphill
battle.
C
Getting
getting
people
to
take,
take
public
art
seriously
as
and
and
branding
public
art.
Branding,
I
think,
is
the
is
the
thing
and
for
public
art
to
step
up
beyond
our
committee
to
step
beyond
just
public
art.
Here
we
have
to
deal
with
just
more
narrow
confines
and
still
instead
of
thinking
of
the
well-being
of
the
city
itself
and
how
we
can
help
build
it.
B
F
B
Everywhere,
water,
water,
I've
been
looking
back
at
the
ordinance
and
some
of
those
original
documents
are
guidelines
and
the
master
plan
and
water
is
a
is
a
huge
part
of
the
emphasis
of
all
of
the
original
thinking
of
the
city's
public
art
program.
So
I'm
excited
that
we're
thinking
about
this
and
excited
that
we
have
looked
at
so
many
different
methods
and
locations.
B
I
know
we
want
to
move
forward,
but
there
are
so
many
directions
so
shall
we
just
look
at
each
of
these
locations
and
the
considerations
and
I'd
like
to
hear
back
from
you,
the
safford
avenue,
right
away
from
mirrors
to
tarpon
avenue,
there's
a
lot
of
vacant
property
there,
but
I
don't
know
how
much
of
it
could
be
directed
to
city
use.
There's
a
great
vacant
lot,
with
beautiful
oak
trees
right
behind
walgreens
that
fronts
on
the
trail
probably
privately
owned.
B
B
B
And
again
the
question:
is
you
know
what
what
property
could
be
used
and
is
there
a
possibility
that
we
can
work
with
the
county
on
having
something
that
is
closer
to
or
adjacent
to
the
trail
itself?.
E
A
I
had
one
of
my
screwy
ideas.
I
sent
an
email
to
jeff
davis
at
porter
board,
the
guy
that
did
the
art
boxes.
Oh
and
I
was
wondering
if
he
could.
A
Come
up
with
something
using
that
same
concept,
the
interchangeable
art,
because
we
could
use
it
as
art
installations
but
would
be
kind
of
like
a
covered
cooling
station.
I
you
know
with
maybe
a
mister
or
something
like
that
in
it
and
maybe
a
bench,
but
it
would
also
include
an
art
component
and
would
be
solar-powered,
so
he
hasn't
gotten
back
to
me
yet.
But
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there.
It
might
be.
B
There
are
some
very
nice
ones
in
the
gateway
area
of
saint
pete,
or
you
know
it's
it's
the
way
we
cut
through
instead
of
going
to
gandy
boulevard
to
to
get
to
saint
pete,
but
there
are,
there
are
two
or
three
bus
stops
that
are
transparent,
but
have
bar
reliefs
in
metal
on
that's
what
I
was
seeing,
but.
A
Yeah,
it
was
kind
of
this
yeah
the
same
idea.
You
know
you
know
some
place
where
you
know
a
biceps
bicyclist
could
stop,
but
it
would
also
incorporate
that
you
know
the
rotating
art
component,
like
the
boxes
on
the
on
the
docks,
so
I'll
see
what
he
comes
back
with
and
yeah
we'll
see
what
happens
and
how.
E
E
E
B
Nothing-
and
that
is
an
important
point-
debbie
there
has
to
be
water
service
and
we
have
to
be
able
to.
E
B
E
B
I
drove
down
the
trail,
I
turned
onto
live
oak
and
then
came
back
to
town
on
north
pinellas.
F
B
Is
a
long
dry?
Yes,.
B
Welcoming
stretch
we've
talked
about
this
before
and-
and
I
think
the
whole
point
is
that
the
city
would
like
to
encourage
pedestrian
traffic
to
move
to
safford,
but
any
any
ideas
on
on
north
pinellas.
B
A
There's
that
big
empty
lot,
I
know
it's
privately
owned,
but
where
the
old
sponge
warehouse
was
that's
just
sitting
there
doing
nothing.
B
Next
to
the
daycare
that
yeah.
B
C
Just
down
right
here
on
center
street
center
and
ring
oh
right
by
those
townhouses,
and
I
see
you
know
I-
I
see
that
corridor
from
about
mlk
to
live
oak
as
being
kind
of
and
and
maybe
having
water
features
on
each
end,
with
the
use
of
bicycles,
especially
there.
How
many?
How
many
bicycle
rentals
are
right
along
there
and
stuff,
and
not
that
people
are
riding
up
from
clearwater
to
here,
but
it
is,
it
is
a
destination
and
it
is.
C
Mlk,
but
I
also
there's
there's
no
there's
more,
I
think
kind
of
development
going
on
there.
I
know
that
there's
a
quonset
hut
there
that's
going
to
become
a
distillery
and
and
in.
C
You
know
kind
of
a
place
where
you
can
buy,
buy
drinks
and
things
like
that,
but
and
there's
there's
a
couple
of
other
established
places
there
that
could
benefit
from
a
little
bit
more
attention
to
that
area.
I
know:
there's
a
salvage
place
down
there
that
robin
carr
has
and
just
up
from
that
is-
is
that
kwanzaa
that
I'm
talking
about
it's
a
it'll
be
a
gin
brewery?
It's
a
gin
joint,
but
I
think
I
think
you
know
that
could
be.
C
You
know
really
a
good
approach
to
see
to
see
a
lot
of
people
bicycle
here
and
don't
go
to
the
dock.
C
You
know
they've
been
to
the
docks,
maybe
so
they
like
the
bicycling
and
they
like
the
bicycle
around.
So
that
kind
of
an
area
kind
of
describes,
a
certain
aspect
of
of
tarpon
and
I
think
safford
there's
a
number
of
there's
some
empty
lots
there
and
I
don't
think
they're
gonna
stay
empty.
All
that
longer
you
know,
there's
maybe
it'll
be
housing.
I
don't
know.
B
C
E
E
B
Debbie
pointed
that
out
last
time
I
think,
but
I
think
it
is
a
destination
and
the
the
guy
that
runs
the
dunedin
city
bike
tours
now
has
a
tarpon
component,
and
I,
I
think,
we'll
see
a
lot
more
bike.
Traffic.
C
And-
and
I
I
think
you
know
going
back
to
that
discussion
earlier-
that
bill
brought
up,
I
think,
is
about,
are
being
more
responsible
or
maybe
maybe
you
brought
it
up
it's
that
we
are
responsible
somewhat
for
the
look
of
the
city,
and
this
is
a
way
of
doing
it
by
we
can
we
can
I
I
think
this
has
two
aspects:
it
do
two
water
fountains.
C
A
Right,
so
are
we,
it
sounds
like
we've
shifted
our
focus
to
the
bike
trail
and
bicyclists
and,
like
an
artistic
water
feature
that
would
also
serve
as
a
cooling
station.
B
Public
art
right
and
if
it
can
serve
that
cooling
welcoming
you
know
great
place
to
have
an
aesthetic
experience
and
cool
off
right,
and
I
and
I
like
the
idea
that
we
could
then
influence
how
the
city
looks
yeah
and
now
that
we've
freed
up
that
space
at
the
at
the
toward
the
end
of
the
trail.
B
A
Yeah,
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
possibly
get
a
hold
of
the
guy,
that
does
the
bike
trails,
the
bike
chores
and
I
know
him
well
good,
okay,
and
you
know,
find
out
like
get
some
feedback
from
him
like
what?
What
did
the
bicyclists
like?
What
do
they
look
for?
A
You
know
how
how
to
take
what
they
want
or
need
and
and
turn
it
into
something.
That's
creative
and
artistic.
A
E
You
know
just
to
build
on
that.
I
was
in
roadies.
A
E
So
it
is,
it
is
a
busy,
it
is
probably
the
busiest
part
of
our
pinellas
trail
between
between,
I
would
say,
palm
harbor
hospital
area
and
then
down
through
the
exercise
area.
F
A
If
I
could
divert
for
a
minute
until
tell
a
funny
story,
I
was
in
rusty
bellies
many
many
years
ago
out
on
the
tiki
bar
and
all
of
a
sudden.
The
bartender
got
a
call
from
the
front
desk,
alerting
him
to
the
fact
that
there
was
a
group
of
bikers
that
was
coming
to
the
tiki
bar,
so
he
sends
out
for
ice.
He
brings
up
extra
kegs
of
beer.
You
know
calls
to
get
like
an
extra.
A
You
know,
kind
of
bouncer
type
waiter
out
to
the
tiki
bar
and
all
of
a
sudden,
all
these
guys
in
yellow
lycra
show
up
and
they're
drinking.
You
know
sparkling
water
and
you
know
lettuce
wraps
and
he
calls
the
front
desk
and
he
said
next
time.
Please
discriminate
between
bikers
and
bicyclists.
C
C
Martin
luther
king
and
would
be
putting
something
maybe
expensive
down
there
as
a
as
a
entree
into
into
the
area
as
well
as
one
up
on
on
live
oak.
I
think
the
other
thing
is
that
art
wise.
It
would
be
interesting
if,
if
we
could
find
the
budget
where
the
budget
would
be
very
enticing
because
we're
sitting
there
saying
well,
what
could
it
look
like?
What
could
it
be?
Leave
it
up
to
the
artist?
Oh.
A
C
I
mean
the
artist
I
mean
if
it's
pretty
pretty
open
and
attractive,
and
if
we
had
the
money,
that's
what
a
lot
of
these
are
they
had
the
money
you
could.
You
could
get
some
really
interesting
ideas
that
may
not
cost
a
lot,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
people
do
think
of
these
things.
C
These
kinds
of
things
where
it's
it's
practical
art
practical
that
that
is
maybe
has
an
environmental
impact-
has
had
all
sorts
of
things,
and
it's
not
necessarily
what
you
would
consider
traditional
art.
Some
people
might
enjoy
it,
not
even
knowing
its
art
yeah.
So
so
I
think.
Well,
you
know
that
cooling
thing
with
the
bamboo
right
there
right,
there's
people
all
over
the
place.
C
B
A
Yeah
talking
about
the
cooling
station,
it
just
prompted
a
memory
in
yonkers
there
was
an
episcopal
church
in
the
side,
chapel
predated
the
american
revolution,
and
this
main
cathedral
type
church
was
actually
built
in
1868
and
there
was
a
very
philanthropic
family
who
built
this.
It
almost
looks
like
a
stone
tower
and
it
was
it
tapped
into
a
spring
and
it
was
a
fountain
and
it
was
you
know,
to
quench
the
third
thirst
of
the
residence
and
the
backsplash
was
a
bronze
tiffany
plaque.
B
A
A
You
know
tiffany
studios
plaque,
so
the
incorporation
of
art
I
mean
that
was
of
its
time,
but
the
incorporation
of
art
and
cooling
and
refreshment
some
kind
of
physical
bonus,
for
you
know,
placement
with
the
art
and
it's
come
up
with
something
really
fabulous.
E
I
love
the
concept
of
the
misters
now,
obviously
there's
seeing
the
mist
come
through
the
trees,
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
an
arc
component
to
it,
except
maybe
the
landscaping
or
benches
or
whatever
that
would
be
around
it.
D
E
C
C
B
B
Do
you
want
to
continue
with
these
locations?
Do
you
want
to
continue
next
month
sounds
like
we
have
a
pretty
strong
response
to
safford
and
and
exploring
that
yeah.
I
think.
A
I
think
the
I
think,
your
idea
of
touching
on
the
bicyclists
I
mean,
I
think,
that
you
know
the
information
there
right
and
they
they
do
come
to
to
tarpon
in
droves
from
all
over
the
place
even
within
tarpon,
and
they
do
patronize
restaurants,
I
mean
they're
a
source
of
income.
A
North
yeah,
the
book
ending,
that's
what
barbara
you
know
and
the
thing
is
where
the
production
art
was
scheduled
to
go.
I
think
it
was
the
heron,
the
one
that
was
the
southernmost
one.
That's
on
actually
on
meers
yeah.
The
bike
trail
got.
C
Think
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
of
voting
against
that
that
production
art
in
the
first
place
in
my
place
was
that
I
understood
it
was
going
to
be
put
someplace
where
we
might
want
to
do
something.
C
A
E
A
And
maybe
for
the
next
meeting
we
could
draft
a
call,
hopefully
we'll
be
that
far
along.
B
I'll
get
information
from
the
bike
guy.
E
B
E
F
D
I
don't
think
we
do
it.
Whoops.
A
Florida,
no,
I,
oh
that's,
that's
the
other
thing
too.
I
would
really
I've
been
talking
to
a
couple
of
people
about
the
possibility
of.
A
Exploring
turning
this
committee
into
a
501c3,
because
for
this
very
reason
you
know,
I
understand
that
the
other
you
know,
boards
and
committees
are
quasi
judicial.
The
whole
purpose
of
the
sunshine
laws
is
to
prevent
insider
trading
collusion
and
the
arts
only
exist
in
communication
and
we're
kind
of
stifled
collaboration,
collaboration,
communication,
symbiotic
relationships.
A
E
I
did
formulate
friends
of
the
arts
for
chesapeake
and
we
did
the
the
legalities
of
it.
And
what
have
you.
A
Yeah,
I
was,
I
started:
yonkers
arts
back
up
north,
but
yeah.
You
know
with
another
group
of
people,
but.
D
A
D
A
Right,
it
would
have
to
be
organized
in
such
a
way
that
we
could
still
utilize
the
you
know
the
money
from
the
ordinance,
but
you
know.
A
Yeah,
in
addition,
but
you
know
the
yeah
we
could
even
ask
for
a
grant
from
the
city
which
would
be
exactly
I
mean
you
know
it.
Would
it
would
you
know
it
would
take.
You
know
some
kind
of
legal
organization,
but.
E
A
A
F
A
Yes,
no,
no
it's,
but
the
thing
is,
as
I
said,
it
works
for
something
like
planning
and
zoning
or
the
board
of
adjustments,
or
you
know
where
people
are
applying
laws
and
ordinances
and
rules
and
regulations
to
people
that
come
and
plead
their
case.
I
mean
even
the
setup
looks
like
I've
always
called
it.
The
courtroom,
yeah.
B
I
remember
pretty
clearly
when
we
were
oriented
our
first
meeting
down
in
the
library
and
tom
trask
was
was
very
specific.
He
said
you
know
if
you
see
each
other
in
public,
of
course,
you're
going
to
talk
to
each
other.
You
just
don't
talk
about
anything
that
you
will
vote
on.
That's
a
little
bit
different,
I'm
a
hair
splitter!
B
E
B
You
know
it
seems
that,
oh
in
fact,
in
that
very
meeting
or
one
right
after
it,
the
florida
craft
gallery
in
saint
pete
had
a
show
of
craft
artists
who
had
expanded
into
public
art
and
they
had
lectures
and
symposia
blah
blah
blah.
And
we
asked
mr
tresk
if
we
could
all
jump
in
somebody's
van
and
go
down
together
and
he
said
yeah,
you
just
don't
talk
about
anything
you're
going
to
vote
on.
B
That
the
door
is
open
for
information
gathering,
educating
ourselves
together,
hey
you
know:
we're
not
ready
to
vote
on
anything
yet
right.
So.
F
F
E
A
See
them
tomorrow
right
because
I
remember
was
you
and
jules
didn't
you
go
down
to
visit
some
mural,
derek
donnelly
down
in
dunedin
and
a
few
other
people
and
well
just
just
yeah.
A
Yeah
yeah
information
go.
That's
devil's
in
the
details,
found
a
nice
little
demon
there.
A
B
A
D
Well,
the
thing
that's
nice
about
these
is
there's
something
above
and
beyond
what
infrastructure
is
going
to
be
dealing
with
when
we
get
down
towards
the
the
bayous
and
the
water.
There's
a
lot
of
infrastructure,
that's
going
to
take
place,
and
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
make
sure
we
piggyback
on
to
that
so
that
I
think
it's
going
to
lend
itself,
especially
if
we're
brought
into
it
early
enough
to
opportunities
for
us
where
this
is
something
above
and
beyond,
plus,
what's
really
nice
about?
B
B
Landscape
is
kind
of
a
gathering
place,
but
I
didn't
put
it
in
here,
because
we
hadn't
talked
about
that
as
a
group.
So
I
I
wanted
to
gather
all
of
europe,
because
that
is
city.
A
Okay
motion
to
adjourn,
or
were
we
so
moved.