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B
Yep,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
So,
prior
to
the
roll
call,
we
do
need
to
determine
the
how
our
members
can
participate
tonight.
So
I
would
like
to
entertain
a
motion.
E
Okay,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
and
vote
to
allow
the
absent
member
denise
menino
to
participate
virtually
due
to
extraordinary
circumstances
and
allow
her
to
participate
in
tonight's
meeting
and
a
vote.
Thank.
F
B
Excellent,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye.
A
E
Dr
robinson,
to
participate
virtually
due
to
extraordinary
circumstances
allowing
to
participate
in
tonight's
meeting
and
vote
as
well.
Second,.
B
All
in
favor
aye
aye
all
right
now
we're
ready
for
roll
call.
Yes,
ma'am,
miss.
B
G
Thanks
so
much,
I
appreciate
it
being
invited
and
I'm
really
excited
for
any
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
cultural
and
civic
services
department.
So
I
was
really
read
by
your
by
the
star
report.
I
read
through
that
and
I
thought
that
was
such
a
great
piece
of
information,
so
I
gave
you
some
handouts.
I
kind
of
went
through
that
and
we're
gonna,
I'm
gonna
focus
on.
You
know
our
portion
of
that
tonight
that
kind
of
aligns
more
with
our
department.
D
G
Great
great
and
I'm
not
gonna,
go
ahead
and
belabor
everything
as
far
as
you
know,
all
the
dates
and
and
all
the
items
that's.
But
I
wanted
to
give
it
you
as
much
information
as
I
could,
because
I'm
very
proud
of
the
department
and
all
of
our
employees
under
cultural
and
civic
services
department.
G
We
have
two
really
diverse
areas.
We
have
tarpon
arts,
which
is
our
performing
arts
section
of
the
department,
and
then
we
also
have
the
library
which
you
know
is
just
a
phenomenal
facility
and
keeps
getting
better
and
better.
You
know
every
year
and
then
I
also
am
a
liaison
for
the
public
art
committee.
G
So
I'm
going
to
just
kind
of
go
through
a
few
of
our
highlights
for
you
and,
like
I
said,
I'm
going
to
focus
on
primarily
in
the
this
section
of
the
star
report
yeah.
I
thought
it
was
really.
I
I
really
love
this
purpose,
because
you
know
I
feel
like
that's
what
our
our
actual
department
does
encourage
the
community
member
participation.
G
It
allows
for
creative
and
self-expression,
and
it's
very
key
for
any
kind
of
community.
Revitalization-
and
I
think
tarpon
springs
is
really
fortunate
to
have
as
much
arts
and
culture
as
we
do.
So.
I'm
very
proud
of
that.
Of
course,
the
heritage
museum
is
such
a
wonderful
location,
and
you
know
people
come
and
visit
all
the
time
and
there's
they
always
say
to
us.
G
It's
like
I
remember
when
this
was
the
library,
so
it's
really
fun
to
hear
their
stories,
and
it's
kind
of
you
know
we're
we're
located
in
such
a
beautiful
park.
It's
it's,
I'm
very
lucky
to
be
able
to
come
there
every
day
to
work.
Our
two
primary
wings
are
the
history
wing
and
the
ecology
wing.
The
george
michael
belarus
wing,
of
course,
has
our
permanent
greek
community
exhibit
an
archaeological
exhibit,
and
then
we,
we
kind
of
rotate
out.
We
usually
try
to
do
two
new
exhibits
every
year.
G
G
G
Whenever
these
things
don't
work,
it
gets
me
nervous.
Okay,
so
anyway
we
do
have
a
golden
crescent
exhibit
and
we
just
put
up
a
really
neat
new
epiphany
exhibit
and
our
local
historical
society
was
very
instrumental
in
helping
us
with
that,
and
we
have
some
wonderful
pictures.
G
So
I
hope
everybody
will
stop
in
and
of
course,
we've
got
the
wonderful
ecology
wing
with
christopher
stills
reproductions,
and
we
currently
have
in
there
a
maritime
traditions
exhibit
that
was
done
by
tina
bucavales
and
also
have
a
manatee
exhibit
that
we
put
together
so
because
we
have
so
many
people,
and
it's
great
this
time
of
year,
where
we
have
a
life-size
manatee
that
our
volunteers
and
our
staff
actually
made
out
of
paper
mache
it's
life-size
manatee,
so
you
really
have
to
come
and
see
it.
It's
awesome,
and
then
we
have
four
videos.
G
Two
on
sponge,
diving,
shrimp
boats
and
then
one
of
christopher
still
also
in
the
lobby,
is
the
women's
club
exhibit
and
we
use
the
heritage
museum
for
tarpon
arts
for
our
ticket
sales.
G
And
one
of
the
things
that
we
do-
which
I
feel
is
is
really
you
know
kind
of
nice
for
the
city
is
that
we
have
interesting.
We
call
it
knowledge
and
nibbles
and
they're
just
an
hour
presentation
on
all
kinds
of
different
subjects,
and
we
use
lots
of
local
people
for
that
in
january,
lynn,
whitelaw
is
going
to
do
one
on
the
history
of
the
arts.
G
So
you
know
we
have
these
wonderful
educational
things
that
are
very
low
cost
and
you
know,
brings
a
lot
of
people
in
and
you
know
teaches
them
a
lot
about
our
our
city.
G
And
then,
of
course,
the
cultural
center
which,
like
it's
gore,
looking
gorgeous-
and
I
cannot
wait
for
it
to
reopen
kovit-
is
preventing
us
from
doing
that.
But
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
I
was
so
impressed
about
when
I
first
came
to
tarpon
springs
was
the
fact
that
you
know
tarpon
springs,
recycles
their
buildings
and
they
do
a
really
good
job
of
that.
G
You
know
just
like
the
heritage
museum,
just
like
our
city
hall
and,
of
course
this
is
the
first
city
hall
and
we
just
installed
a
wonderful
statue
there.
So
it's
just
it's
looking
so
good
and
right
now
we
also
have
a
mural
that's
going
on
in
there
a
historic
mural
of
tarpon
springs
by
elizabeth
indiano's.
So
I
can't
wait
for
everybody
to
see
that
and
of
course
this
is
where
we
have
another
a
venue
where
we
have
performances.
G
We
have
a
wonderful
70-seat
theater
in
there
and
we
also
do
lots
of
exhibits
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
it
reopening,
because
the
library
is
going
to
partner
with
tarpon
arts
and
we're
going
to
do
a
lot
of
really
neat
programs
for
adults
and
kids
as
soon
as
we
can
safely
get
people
back
in
there
and
gather
together
and,
of
course,
our
beloved
sapphire
house.
This
is
just
some
really
neat
dates.
We
have
great
docents.
These
are.
G
These
are
volunteers
that
love
the
saffron
house
and
they
give
these
wonderful
tours
and
right
now
it's
decorated
to
the
hilt.
For
christmas.
We
normally
have
a
one
day,
event
with
a
harpist
and
a
storyteller
and
everything,
but
we
can't
gather
this
year,
so
we
are
just
trying
to
get
the
word
out
that
you
know
it
is
open,
it
is
beautiful.
You
can
come
and
take
family
and
friends
and
small
groups
we're
very
good
about
keeping
everything
nice
and
clean
and
disinfected
and
keeping
groups
choose.
G
Everybody
has
to
wear
masks,
of
course,
but
you
really
should
take
a
look
at
it.
If
you
have
never
been
there
for
for
christmas
time,
it's
beautiful,
and
so
we
we
did
in
the
last
year
we
did
increase.
We
were
only
open
two
days
before
on
wednesdays
and
fridays.
We
have
added
thursday
to
the
mix,
and
so
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
people.
G
In
fact,
before
covet
hit
in
2020,
we
had
january
and
february
were
two
of
our
highest
attendance
months
of
people
visiting
the
saffron
house,
so
we're
hoping
to
get
back
to
that
again
soon
and
then,
of
course,
our
performing
arts
center
we
haven't
been
able
to.
We
do
do
any
shows
in
there,
but
we
have
some
wonderful
shows
that
go
on.
This
is
just
a
little
sneak
peek
of
what's
coming
up.
G
G
G
G
Yes,
we're
in
the
performing
arts
center,
yes,
okay
and
then
shows,
and
one
of
the
things
we
like
to
do
is
we
provide
lots
of
different
genres.
But
one
thing
that
I've
learned
about
our
audience
is
that
you
know
they
are
primarily
55
plus,
and
so
we
tried
you
know.
Our
mantra
is:
is
that
we're
going
to
provide
quality,
entertainment
at
an
affordable
price?
G
And
excuse
me
that's
my
refrigerator
and
and
so
we
we
do
that
we
keep
a
cap
on
it,
because
a
lot
of
our
retirees
are,
you
know,
they're,
on
fixed
incomes.
So
when
I
am
scheduling-
and
I
have
to
schedule
out
our
season
a
year
in
advance
and
so
we're
very
cognizant
of
making
sure
that
we're
getting
bringing
in
quality
entertainment,
for
you
know
the
people
that
are
coming
in
from
touring
groups,
and
so
this
are
you
seeing
our
map
now
of
our
shows
and
events?
G
Yes,
okay-
and
this
just
goes
to
show
you
where
we
draw
with
our
ticket
sales.
So
you
can
see
his
primary
clustered
around
tarpon
springs
and
around
palm
harbor
and
all
the
way
down
to
dunedin.
But
we
pull
from
everywhere
and
we're
very
proud
of
that,
and
mike
and
mark
are
our
production
guys
when
we're
in
the
performing
arts
center
and
they
do
a
great
job
and
who
attends
our
shows
in
pinellas
county.
G
And
how
we're
funded
city
of
tarpon
springs
also
through
our
memberships,
ticket
sales,
museum,
entry
fees,
donations,
grants
and
sponsorships?
I
have
not
had
a
lot
of
you
know.
Grants
have
kind
of
dried
up
a
little
bit,
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
did
is
I
reach
out
to
the
community
and
I've
been
pretty
successful,
getting
sponsorships
to
help
us,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
you
know
our
local
businesses
that
that
do
support
us
and
then
americans
for
the
arts.
I
thought
it
was
interesting.
G
Their
chart
is
showing
that
the
oppo
you
know
the
quality
of
life
is
enhanced
and
a
lot
of
people.
You
know
believe
that
and
believe
that
the
arts
and
culture
is
very
necessary
and
then
this
is,
you
know
some
of
the
things
that
they
point
out
as
being
important
public
library.
Can
you
see
that
screen?
Is
everything
working,
okay,
good
and
there's
the
director
at
the
public
library
carrie,
but
calls
us
does
a
great
job
and
her
staff
and
they
do
a
lot
of
wonderful
programs.
G
You
know
that
are
more
based
on
the
sustainability.
From
a
perspective
of
you
know,
ecology
and
and
teaching
people
you
know
about,
you
know
how
to
take
care
of
the
earth.
Also
with
our
knowledge
and
nibbles.
We've
had
an
arborist
come
out
and
talk
about
landscaping
using
native
plants
and
things.
So
you
know
we're
really.
G
You
know
trying
to
promote
programs
like
that
and
then
here's
our
public
art
committee,
if
you
go
down
the
sponge,
docks
you'll,
see
they're,
putting
up
our
solar-powered
illuminated
light
boxes
and
we
have
some
other
statues
and
wonderful.
You
know
art
to
enhance
the
city
around
tarpon
springs,
they
do
a
wonderful
job,
and
so
that's
my
presentation,
I'm
sorry
about
the
the
problems
with
it
and
I
am
open
to
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
B
Thank
you
for
that
there's,
so
many
good
things
happening
in
tarpon
springs
and
good
to
be
reminded
of
all
the
good
things
happening
around
town.
So
I
will.
I
would
love
to
open
it
up
to
my
questions.
I
Diane,
this
is
paul.
You
mentioned
the
growing
collection
of
sustainable
sustainability
materials
at
the
library.
Is
there
a
list
perhaps
that
we
could
access?
Oh
sure,
books,
ebooks,
audio
books,
etc?.
G
I
can
definitely
get
you
that,
and
also
I
wanted
to
talk
to
the
committee
about
when
we
do
resume
our
meetings
in
the
cultural
center
and
even
at
the
heritage
museum.
Where
we
have
meetings
now,
I
would
love
to
work
with
you
all
to
get
some
good
topics,
and
you
know
hopefully
some
speakers
that
could
come
in
and
you
know
and
actually
share.
You
know
more
information
because
I
feel
like
it
helps
us
all.
G
You
know
and
that's
the
the
problem
with
you
know
everybody's
so
busy
nowadays,
but
if
we
can,
you
know
give
it
to
them
in
layers
and
you
know
have
different
topics.
I
think
it
would.
You
know,
be
really
great,
so
we
have
a
couple
facilities
where
we
can
do
that
in,
in
addition
to
the
library
to
get
the
word
out
and
we'll
be
happy
to
to
put
collateral.
G
You
know
in
the
heritage
museum
which
kind
of
almost
right
now
it's
kind
of
like
a
welcome
center,
because
so
many
people
come
in.
You
know
from
craig
park,
so
you
know
be
great
to
have.
You
know
information
there
too,
and
I
will
get
that
to
you
and
carrie
is
is
going
to
be
out,
but
I
can
probably
work
with
one
of
her
employees
to
to
get
that
to
you
before
the
end
of
the
year.
I
G
A
A
J
Don't
really
have
any
questions
I
just
feel
really
privileged
to
live
in
a
community
that
values
the
arts
and
and
to
hear
how
it's
integrated
into
reaching
out
to
the
public
and
educating
and
inspiring
people.
Thank
you
very
much.
Oh
you're
welcome.
K
And
and
I'd
like
to
just
echo
denise's
comments
as
well,
thank
you
for
being
with
us
tonight.
Thanks
for
everything
you
do
for
the
city
and
it's
nice
to
know,
I
feel
that
there's
a
real
open
door
policy
with
tarpon
arts
to
explore
possibilities,
and
I
think
that
that
innovation
is
really
important
and
inspiring.
So
thank
you
very.
B
A
few
questions
don't
know:
if
nobody
else
does.
I
was
kind
of
waiting
because
I
didn't
want
to
the
first.
If
we
look
at
the
in
the
star
goal,
areas
for
arts
and
culture
for
actions,
one
for
eac,
one,
it
mentions
having
a
plan
to
protect
and
enhance,
expand
the
community's
arts
and
cultural
resources
and
strengthen
creative
industries.
So
do
we
have
like
a
an
actual
like
plan
of
how
that
how
the
resources
like
how
it
all
works.
G
Well,
I
know
that
the
city
itself
is
working
with
all
of
our
departments
to
put
together,
you
know
a
strategic
plan.
I
in
my
department
about
two
years
ago
we
did
kind
of
a
five
year.
G
You
know
strategic
plan
for
our
department
and
you
know
as
far
as
growing-
and
you
know
utilizing
new
technology
and
and
and
you'll,
be
very
proud
of
us,
because
we
have
a
recycling
container
outside
of
the
heritage
museum
now,
so
we're
we're
trying
to
do
our
part
in
some
of
these
of
buildings
that
are
off-site,
but
as
far
as
the
star
program,
you
know,
I
would
love
to
work
with
you
all,
because
this
is
something
new
to
me.
G
I
had
just
learned
about
it
when
paul,
you
know
asked
me
to
you,
know,
come
on
and
see
the
committee,
so
you
know
if
we
could.
I
would
love
to
set
up
a
meeting
and
you
know
see
how
we
could
you
know
possibly
lay
out
something,
that's
strategic
that
would
involve
the
culture
and
the
arts
because,
like
I
said
it's
brand
new,
I
I
but
I
enjoyed
reading
about
it
and
it
was
fascinating.
B
G
What
we
get
from
a
city
is,
you
know,
like
every
department
has
a
budget,
and
so
you
know
we
have.
You
know
our
budget
that
is
given
to
us
from
the
city,
but
that
doesn't
cover
all
of
our
expenses
and
that's
where
the
the
ticketing
and
the
memberships
and
donations
and
the
fees
like
that
you
know
come
into
cover
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
do
the
programs
that
we
do
and
bring
in
the
artists.
You
know
that
we
do.
G
You
know
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
do
more
at
the
cultural
center
when
it
opens,
because
you
know
we
were
talking
to
the
tarpon
springs,
art
association
and
they've
done
a
great
job
with
doing
classes.
You
know
art
classes
for
the
kids
and
everything,
and
so
we're
hoping
to
do
that
at
the
cultural
center.
You
know
one
of
the
thoughts
we
had,
which
would
be
really
kind
of
cool.
Is
you
know
to
in
the
theater
area
that
has
the
70
seats?
G
You
know
to
get
us
a
screen
and
then
show
like
a
film
like
a
short
film
to
the
kids,
like,
let's
say
on
van
gogh
and
then
have
them
actually
do
artwork
in
that
style
and
we've
talked
to
the
tarpon
springs
art
association.
G
They
were
very
excited
about
the
idea
of
doing
that,
and
you
know
teaching
the
kids
and
doing
a
class,
so
we're
hoping
that
once
the
cultural
center
opens,
we
can
get
that
program
going,
but
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
for
all
kinds
of
classes
for
the
kids
we
used
to
bring
them
in
to
our
shows.
G
But
then
what
happened
is
pinellas
county
changed
the
busing
schedule
and
there
was
a
bunch
of
conflicts,
and
so
you
know
the
schools
just
said
we
can't
do
it
anymore,
which
is
very
sad.
I
personally,
when
I
have
some
artists
that
are
coming
from
some
touring
companies.
G
B
What
about
like
theater
programs
for
kids?
I
know.
G
Oh
absolutely,
we
actually
did
aladdin
about
a
year
ago
and
had
a
big
production
with
the
kids
and
they
did
phenomenal.
So
also
we
we
did
some
kids
productions
at
the
cultural
center
as
well,
and
that
has
kind
of
shut
down
our
children's
program.
We
tried
to
bring
some
you
know
shows
in
for
for
kids
at
the
performing
arts
center,
and
you
know,
unfortunately,
it
didn't
really
sell
very
well.
B
I
know
my
son
loved
doing
that
for
sure
moving
on
down
to
eac,
4,
which
is
the
historic
preservation
segment.
You
listed
a
lot
of
the
locations
around
the
city
that
are
on
the
national
register
of
historic
places,
which
is
fantastic.
Are
these
private
or
public
or
both
they're?
Both.
G
Okay,
they're
both
and
I
was
really
interested.
I
thought
that
was
kind
of
interesting
about
the
diving
boats
and
I
knew
of
some
of
them,
but
I
didn't
realize
that
there
were
so
many
diving
boats
and
I'm
not
sure
what
shape
they're
in
or
their
actual
locations.
But
I
did
some
research
and
then
I
I
got
those
you
know
all
of
those
names,
and
so
I
thought
well,
that's
really
great.
G
We
need
to
publicize
that
you
know,
because
we
we
do
have
a
lot
of
historic,
wonderful
things
to
be
proud
of
here
in
the
city.
B
So
is
there
a
like
a
systematic
approach
to
preserving
some
of
these
historic
structures
and
sites,
and
the
reason
I'm
asking
is
because
I
think
we're
going
to
start
talking
in
some
of
our
upcoming
meetings
with
the
planning
director
and
they're
looking
at
development
code
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
I'm
trying
to
kind
of
tie
some
of
these
different
things
together
and
how
we,
what
our
role
could
be.
G
Now
you
know,
that's
probably
a
good
question
for
the
historical
society.
My
department
does
not
get
into
more
of
the
historic
preservation.
You
know
I
look
to
them
like,
for
instance,
you
know
like,
for
instance,
for
our
programming.
We
had
phyllis
collianos
come
and
she
did
a
wonderful
talk
on
you
know.
The
tarpon
springs
pass
with
the
archaeology
and
everything
aspect
and
it's
fascinating
and
it's
always
filled-
and
you
know
it's
hard
to
she's
busy.
G
G
B
Sure
how
it
all
goes
together,
how
it
all
folds
in
together
in
eac
5,
which
is
the
social
and
cultural
diversity
you
mentioned
under
programs
and
services,
this
art
of
health
event
really
exciting.
What
about
like
the
night
on
the
isles
and
those
kind
of
things
that
were
or
is
that
still
continuing?
I
know
with
covid?
Obviously,
everything
stopped,
but.
G
You
know
the
merchants
association
when
tita
buchvalus
retired
the
merches
association
took
over
night
in
the
islands,
and
so
my
department
really
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
that
anymore.
So
that
would
be
a
you
know,
a
merchant's
question.
I
know
that
they
are,
you
know,
really
wanting
to
get
back
to
all
the
the
public
events,
but
you
know,
unfortunately,
we're
all
kind
of.
A
G
I'm
I'm
happy
to
answer
them.
If
anybody
thinks
of
anything
else,
please
feel
free
to
you
know,
contact
me
and
I
look
forward
in
the
new
year
for
maybe
us
to
get
together
and
come
up
with
a
really
neat
plan
to
get
the
word
out
even
more.
K
And
one
more
thing
before
we
go,
it
just
occurred
to
me
when
you
mentioned
trying
to
work
with
the
schools.
More
elementary
has
the
ymca
of
the
suncoast
has
a
presence
there
and
we
have
a
partnership
with
the
ymca
one
of
our
board.
Members
is
the
behavioral
specialist
one
of
our
peace
for
tarpon
board
members
is
works
with
the
y,
so
it
might
be
a
different
avenue
to
have
a
presence
at
the
at
the
elementary
school
tarpanal.
If
you
want
to
get
with
me
we'll
see
if
we
can't
connect
you.
G
Great-
and
I
will
mention
that
we
do
have
schools
that
bring
students
by
to
the
heritage
museum,
so
you
know
they.
We
do
group
sessions
with
them.
You
know
so
you
know
they,
but
you
know,
as
far
as
the
performances
go,
I
sure
would
love
you
know
for
them
to
be
able
to
get
exposure
to
these
wonderful
artists
that
come
into
town.
K
B
Well,
thank
you
for
being
with
us
this
evening
and
and
sharing
all
your
thoughts,
and
you
know,
enlightening
us
on
all
the
things
that
in
the
community
and
certainly
look
forward
to
continuing
the
conversation
and
working
with
you.
Thank.
B
L
Good
evening,
paul
smith
here
hope
everyone
can
hear
me
through
my
mask.
Okay,
as
you
all
know,
we
have.
Our
main
initiative
is
the
development
of
the
the
sustainability
action
plan
and
underneath
that
umbrella
are
a
lot
of
individual
activities
that
are
happening,
including
later
on
on
our
agenda,
where
we
talk
about
the
framework
we're
going
to
use,
to
develop
and
and
utilize
that
sustainability
action
plan,
but
I
believe
a
parallel
path,
along
with
that,
this
committee
expressed
an
interest
in
being
in
on
the
land
development
code
review
and
the
comprehensive
plan
review.
L
The
first
thing
I
want
to
explain
is
that,
generally,
the
comprehensive
plan
is
the
guiding
policy
document
and
then
the
land
development
code
or
the
individual
code
requirements
to
carry
that
comprehensive
plan
out
staff
and
planning
and
zoning
have
put
together
it's
actually
in
a
spreadsheet
format,
with
individual
tabs
at
the
bottom.
But
it's
an
index
of
the
entire
lan
development
code.
There's
a
many
articles
in
it
within
it
and
then
subsections
and
there's
actually
a
link.
You
can
click
on
next
to
each
one.
L
There's
also
a
place
for
you
to
type
in
notes
or
comments
that
can
be
utilized
later
on
when
we
get
to
the
point
of
recommending
revisions
in
our
discussions
with
the
planet
and
zoning
department,
it
might
be
best
for
now,
since
we
understand
the
comp
plan
as
the
guiding
principles
that
perhaps
the
first
step
would
be
to
get
this
out
to
you,
the
land
development
code,
so
that
you
can
see
the
sections
in
it.
We've
highlighted
sections
in
green
that
might
be
of
interest
to
sustainability
and
just
so
that
you're
familiar
with
the
structure.
L
L
So
if
I
could
make
an
analogy,
I
see
the
comprehensive
plan
as
a
destination
and
the
land
development
code
is
maybe
all
the
turns
that
you
make
to
get
there.
So
it
may
not
be
quite
that
br.
You
know
bright
of
a
line
between
the
two,
but
if
that
helps
you
understand
the
relationship,
there's
also
something
that
the
same
department,
planner
and
zone
is
working
on,
which
is
a
community
engagement
tool
and
they're,
going
to
utilize
that
to
help
them
get
public
input
on
that
process.
L
So
what
I'm
leading
up
to
here
is
we've
talked
about
having
the
work
sessions
during
the
daytime
and
I'm
going
to
recommend
that
the
plan
and
zoning
department
be
part
of
our
first
efforts
on
that
and
that
could
include
them
taking
us
through
the
land
development
code
in
a
little
bit
of
detail.
The
comprehensive
plan,
but
also
perhaps
as
a
separate
item
of
discussion,
would
be
this
community
engagement
tool
where
they
can
actually
walk
through.
Some
of
it
show
you
how
it
works.
L
L
We'll
have
a
cover.
Email
that'll,
explain
what
it
is,
but
just
know
that
we're
at
the
beginning
and
it's
okay
to
have
a
lot
of
questions
so
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
you
dory.
B
Thank
you
for
that
overview,
so
I
I
want
to
kind
of
color
in
the
lines
a
little
bit
and
and
make
sure
that
we're
all
kind
of
level
on
what
we're
talking
about.
So
the
first
is
the
like.
Diane
wood
also
mentioned
the
city
is
getting
ready
to
start
doing
some
strategic
planning
and
like
long-term
visioning
for
the
city
in
general.
So
you've
got
that
happening
and
then
part
of
the
part
of
that
process
is
looking
at
the
comprehensive
plan
trying
to
figure
out
what
really
are
like
the
driving
goals
and
what
is
where's.
B
The
city
want
to
be
going
and
then
those
land
development
code
changes
will
facilitate
those
goals,
happening
and
kind
of
chart
a
path
forward.
If
that
makes
sense,
so
we're
going
to
be
working
with
the
planning
department
to
kind
of
look
at
what,
where
like
they've
already
identified
in
the
spreadsheet,
where
they
think
that
we
might
want
to
engage.
But
I
think
that
it's
still
wide
open
to
engage
in
other
topics
as
well.
That
are
part
of
the
land
development
code,
so
that
we
can
give
feedback
there.
B
And
then
we
also
paul-
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
the
planning
department
today-
to
kind
of
get
make
sure
that
we
were
in
understanding
of
you
know,
try
to
explain
it
to
the
committee.
They
also
talked
about
wanting
to
try
to
get
to
some
short-term
goals
and
actions
in
addition
to
the
long-term
goals
and
actions
so
to
to
the
end
of
you
know,
maybe
not
waiting
until
we
have
our
whole
sustainability
action
plan
written
to
start
taking
action
on
some
of
these
things.
That
could
be
done
quicker.
B
So
to
that
end,
I
would
like
that
as
you're
thinking
of
and
you're
looking
through,
the
spreadsheet
that
paul
is
going
to
send
out
this
week
also
be
thinking
about
your
priorities,
because
I
I
explained
to
to
renee
vincent
our
planning
director.
B
A
A
B
I
think
we're
all
laymen,
like
none
of
us,
really
have
planning
degrees,
so
we
wouldn't
necessarily
know
exactly
what
to
tweak
in
order
to
get
the
effect
that
we
want.
So
if
we
could
also
kind
of
put
together
priority
items
that
we're
thinking
about
like
as
we're
thinking
about
sustainability
and
where
the
city
where
we
would
would
like
the
city
to
be
going
to
be
able
to
share
that
list
with
them.
B
So
we
can
talk
amongst
it
and
maybe
come
to
consensus
on
what
we
think
are
like
the
top
items
to
to
start
to
address
as
a
group,
and
then
they
can
help
us
figure
out
how
to
plug
it
in
to
to
the
land
development
code.
Changes.
Does
that
make
sense.
B
Okay,
so
for
the
next
meeting
like
like
paul
mentioned
starting
those
workshops,
if
we
could
each
you
know
in
that
time
of
a
month
or,
however
long
it
is
before
we
have,
that
meeting
set,
look
through
the
spreadsheet
look
at
all
of
the,
and
it
is
I
mean
I'll,
be
honest.
It's
like
what
you
guys
said
about
the
star
system.
Like
it's
a
lot.
B
If
you
look
at
it,
it
seems
very
overwhelming,
but
if
we
could
start
to
look
through
what
they
have
marked
in
green
highlighted
in
green
and
then
also
just
be
thinking
big
picture
for
for
our
priority
areas,
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful
to
come.
Prepared
for
the
meeting
with
okay
sounds
good.
B
Are
there
questions
about
what
we're
wanting
to
do?
Oh
and
then
I
did
also
want
to
I'm
sorry.
I
do
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
software
that
we
can
use
for
the
community
engagement.
So
that's
the
second
piece,
so
I
remember
we
had
talked
a
couple
months
ago
about
how
the
city
was
going
out
to
bid
for
a
community
engagement
tool.
Oh.
H
B
That's
what
this
is
so
they've,
pretty
much
they've
decided
and
are
purchasing
the
software,
and
we
got
to
see
a
little
preview
from
ali
with
the
planning
department.
Today
super
cool,
because
people
can
give
feedback
24
7.,
you
can
put
documents
on
the
screen
so
that
it
kind
of
explains
what
you're
trying
to
do
and
then
also
solicit
feedback.
You
can
even
do
it
with
detail
like
if
we
ask
just
as
an
example,
I'm
you
know
looking
at
the
tree
canopy
and
ask
citizens
where
would
you
like
to
see
trees?
B
They
can
literally
put
dots
on
the
map,
so
we
can
get
that
visual
data
and
it
can
be
collected.
You
know
24
7.,
so
somebody
two
in
the
morning
has
a
brainstorm.
They
can
get
on
the
website
and
give
feedback
to
the
city.
So
so
I
think
that,
like
that's
not
totally
fleshed
out,
that's
part
of
what
the
conversation
will
be
is
how
we
can
use
that
to
get
community
input
for
the
work
that
we're
trying
to
do.
K
Dory
help
me
understand,
is
it?
Is
it
interactive
at
all?
As
far
as
I
understand
you
can
put
in
your
priorities
for
tree
canopies,
for
example,
but
what
if
someone
has
something
to
to
bring
that
might
put
a
different
perspective
on
that
or
something
else
like
a
citizen
engagement
to
remove
invasive
species
or
something
like
that?
How
how
to
it?
May
I
mean
I
don't
know
I
haven't
seen
it
maybe
on
there.
K
B
But
the
way
that
it
looked
almost
like
on
the
right
hand,
side
you
can
have
citizen
feedback
and
they
could
give
feedback,
and
then
it's
also
it's
like
a
time
stamp.
So
you
can
see
what
all
of
the
other
comments
are,
so
that
you
know
you
say
you
know:
kieran's
got
this
great
idea
and
I
never
thought
of
it,
but
it's
recorded
there
on
the
website
so
that
you
can
see
other
people's
thoughts
and
ideas.
That's
good,
yeah.
Thank
you.
L
It's
seems
to
be
growing
in
popularity.
It
has
a
very
social
media
kind
of
look
to
it.
It's
a
real
nice
crisp
look
and,
as
dory,
was
saying
a
variety
of
tools
that
the
city
can
design
projects
as
they
will
that
you
click
on
on
the
page,
and
it
has
a
variety
of
ways
to
give
your
feedback.
You
know
there's
like.
J
L
J
L
Yeah,
we're
going
to
work
on
rolling
that
out
and
there'll
be
a
variety
of
ways
to
engage
the
public
and
make
sure
that
the
public's
aware
of
this
tool
and
and
wants
to
use
it
so
we're
just
getting
started
and
in
fact,
staff
is
starting
to
do
training
on
it
now.
So
I
think
what
I
got
from
it
is.
It's
got
a
lot
of
potential,
a
lot
of
possibility
that
I
think
will
take
our
engagement
efforts
to
another
level,
a
higher
level
great.
A
B
It
was
really
cool.
It
looked
like
tiles
like
on
a
website.
There
was
an
example
of
like
show
us
your
christmas
lights,
and
then
people
could
take
pictures
of
their
christmas
decorations
and
shares
so
that
I
mean
there's
just
there's
lots
of
different
things.
You
can
do
with
it,
but
it
is
to
me
it
was
really
kind
of
engaging.
You
know
that
you
can
see
what
your
neighbors
are
up
to.
L
B
About
item
number:
two:
the
comp
plan
review,
update.
J
I
have
a
one
more
question,
just
if
we're,
if
we
have
projects
that
are
already
in
in
progress
that
you
know
might
be
enhanced
with
sustainability
retrofits
is
that
still?
Is
that
a
potential
option,
or
are
we
just
going
to
not
worry
about
it?
You
know
I
mean
if
we
have
suggestions.
I,
the
only
reason
I
ask
is
that
something
came
up
I
went.
I
was
listening
on
zoom
to
the
boc
meeting
on
tuesday
night
and
there
was
something
mentioned
about
a
conversion.
J
That's
happening
at
the
wastewater
to
chlorine
and
one
of
the
callers
asked.
Well,
why
aren't
we
doing
ub?
You
know
it
has
it
was.
He
was
suggesting
that
it's
less
expensive
way
of
saying
sanitizing
and
there's
no
byproduct-
and
I
was
that
made
me
wonder-
was
it
so
far
so
far
in
progress
that
things
couldn't
be
changed
at
all?
J
A
L
I
want
to
tell
you
first
that
that
was
actually
evaluated
from
the
very
beginning
for
that
project
and
uv
does
have
its
place
in
disinfection
of
water,
but
in
our
case
we
need
a
residual
chlorine
to
keep
that
reclaimed.
Water,
safe,
as
it
travels
into
our
storage
tanks
and
out
into
the
pipes
and
etc
and
uv
just
doesn't
provide
that.
L
So
what
you'd
end
up
having
to
do
is
do
the
uv
and
then
add
some
more
chlorine
at
the
end,
so
it
would
sort
of
defeat
the
benefit
of
that
and
the
project
cost
would
probably
be
about
triple
of
what
we
were
looking
at.
So
you
have
to
worry
about
power,
reliability
with
uv.
It
has
to
be
working
all
the
time
with
no
brakes
and
energy,
or
else
you
won't
get
treatment.
L
So
then,
you're
into
you
know,
generators
that
switch
on
very
fast
and
perhaps
battery
storage,
if
you're
using
solar
panels,
so
it
does
increase
the
complexity.
These
are
things
that
could
always
be
added
later,
as
they
become
less
expensive
and
you
know
augment
the
project,
but
for
now
this
was
the
safest,
most
effective
solution.
L
K
Denise
I
watched
the
meeting.
I
had
the
same
question
because
the
person
who
made
that
comment
it
sound,
he
sounded
knowledgeable.
It
sounded
like
an
interesting
idea
and
I
can't
help
but
think
that
other
people
who
were
listening
to
the
meeting
were
kind
of
just
left
with
a
big
question
mark,
and
I
know
that
it's
a
you
know
the
nature
of
how
the
structure
meetings
are
structured.
K
It's
not
like
everyone
can
interrupt,
and
then
you
go
into
something
else
and
you
you
know,
but
right
that
dangling
question,
because
I
had
the
exact
same
question
as
like
those
you
mirrored
my
thoughts
exactly
so
I
don't
know
how
to
how
to
be
able
to
respond
to
people
who
have
questions
just
as
a
courtesy
to
say
that
we
did
look
into
it.
But
so
the
public
knows
that
the
city
is
not
just.
K
Someone
has
a
cogent,
sensible
comment:
the
city's
not
just
going
well
we're
not
going
to
listen
to
that,
but
they
did
look
at
it
and
they,
you
know,
hear
the
reasons
why
it
would
be
great
to
have
some
type
of
a
feedback
mechanism
to
also
to
share
that
knowledge.
With
the
general
public,
so
that
they're
not
just
left
thinking
that
well,
you
know
they
blew
him
off.
That
must
not
be
a
good
idea
when
they're
actually
something
to
it,
but
it's
not
quite
a
good
fit.
You
know
so
right.
K
I
don't
know
how
that
would
be
done,
but
you
know
something
like
that.
As
we
look
towards
engaging
residents
more,
I
think
that
would
be
an
appropriate
thing
to
do,
but
it
you
know,
might
I
don't
know
how
to
manage
it
or
any
any
way
to
get
there
from
here?
Basically,
but
it's
the
thought.
B
And
I'm
not
sure
what
the
intent,
what
the
city
is
for
every
project
and
how
they
plan
on
using
this
engagement
tool.
But
my
hope
is
that,
as
projects
are
getting
started
and
going
through,
they
can
be
putting
those
kinds
of
you
know.
Items
on
and
seeking
feedback
and
and
being
able
to
at
least
have
a
response
before.
A
B
Okay,
then,
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
three,
which
is
a
discussion
of
the
mayor's
memo
regarding
sea
level,
rise,
other
grant
projects
and
a
systematic
approach
and
I'm
gonna
hand
that
over
to
paul
to
share
with
us
where
we
are
with
that.
L
So,
as
you
all
know,
the
mayor
sent
the
committee
a
memo
back
in
october
and
in
the
memo
he
asked
that
he
gets
some
feedback
from
the
committee
on
project
priorities
that
he
can
then
carry
forward
for
funding
consideration,
and
what
I
did
is
I
drafted
a
memo
for
you
all
to
think
about
and
give
me
input
on.
I
tried
to
make
it
very
overt
that
this
is
a
draft
for
your
input.
It's
not
meant
to
be
a
final
memo.
L
I
want
to
hear
from
you
if
this
represents
something
you'd
want
to
send,
but
the
over
overall
idea
here
is
we're
still
very
early
in
the
process
of
identifying
vulnerability
of
shoreline,
also
doing
an
urban
canopy
assessment.
That
was
an
area
of
interest
this
committee
has
mentioned
and
we're
just
at
the
beginning
of
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
if
we
can
get
some
help
and
funding
to
do
that,
speed
that
whole
thing
up.
That
would
be
very
helpful
to
us.
L
Keeping
in
mind
item
number
one:
we've
already
got
two
grant
requests
in,
but
I
think
we
just
cover
our
bases
and-
and
this
again
is
a
communication
to
the
mayor
of
the
things
that
we
are
interested
in
advancing.
So
that's
the
idea
behind
this.
L
B
And
just
to
color
in
a
little
bit
more
on
that
item,
I
think
that
the
intent
is
that
the
mayor
is
looking
to
go
to
the
state
for
for
funding.
So
usually,
when
that
happens,
they
want
to
see
a
plan
of
how
you're
spending
the
money
and
what
the
money
is
going
to
go
to
instead
of
just
kind
of
christmas
tree
list.
B
So
your
christmas
wish
list.
So
that's
what
we're
I
think
attempting
to
do
here
is
outline
these
are
pretty
big
ticket
items,
so
you
wouldn't
necessarily
have
the
funds
to
be
able
to
do
and
if
the
state
could
help
with
with
the
offset
of
some
of
those
costs,
and
that
would
be
very
helpful
to
our
committee
and
the
city
in
general.
J
Are
the
items
that
are
listed?
Are
they
I
I'm
assuming
just
there
are
our
first
our
first
priorities
and
it
would
be
an
annual
request
for
project
support
or
the
I
mean,
because
this
certainly
isn't
every
everything
that
we're
hoping
will
happen,
but
I'm
assuming
that
he
might
go
to
the.
How
often
does
the
city
go
to
the
state
to
request
support
for
projects
that
are
outside
of
our
budget.
L
I
think
it's
a
year-round
process.
I
haven't
really
talked
to
the
mayor
in
detail
about
his
schedule,
but
I
think
you're
you're
on
track
there.
This
will
be
something
we
would
revisit
annually.
I
don't
think
the
memo
would
be
the
same
each
year.
It
might
have
one
or
two
of
the
same
elements
until
we
get
the
grants
or
get
them,
you
know
completed,
but
yeah.
L
A
B
So
we
you
know
we
had
talked
about
wanting
to
have
all
of
that
baseline
data
and
being
able
to
know
where
we
are
in
terms
of
projects
that
need
to
happen.
So
this
would
help
speed
that
process
up
question.
N
Yes,
in
the
mayor's
men
memo,
he
identifies
three
areas
in
tarpon:
springs
for
sea
level,
rise,
dota,
canis,
the
south
spring
boulevard
and
canal
street,
and
and
so
there's
river,
where
I
live
at
riverside
in
chesapeake.
N
It
floods
a
lot-
and
I
understand-
and
this
was
in
a
discussion
I
had
with
paul
quite
a
while
ago-
that
riverside's
a
county
road
so
that
the
city
really
can't
fix
that
major
flooding,
but
there's
tons
of
traffic
there.
So
it
would
behoove
us
to
get
that
fixed.
So
is:
does
the
city
petition
the
county
and
try
to
engage
the
county
in
addressing
these
issues
that
we're
raising
that
the
city
itself
can't
really
mitigate.
L
Yeah
great
question,
and
the
short
answer
is
yes,
that
section
you're
talking
about
is
actually
considered
in
the
beckett
bridge
project,
which
the
last
time
I
checked
at
least
a
section
of
it.
I
think
up
to
chesapeake
in
that
area
that
they're
saying
20
21
to
23
is
when
construction
would
start
on
that.
L
That's
quite
a
range,
isn't
it,
but
I
think
that's
because
it
involves
property
acquisition
that
they're
working
through,
but
I
do
know
they're
aware
of
that
low
part
of
the
road,
and
I
understand
that
that's
part
of
that
project-
and
I
know
some
several
members
of
the
commission
have
brought
that
up
as
a
concern
as
well,
and
I
think
that
enhances
the
chances
of
that
getting
communicated
to
the
county.
But
we'll
continue
to
follow
up
on
that.
B
And
I
think
that
that
part
of
the
vulnerability,
assessment
and
action
plan
is
that
we
would
have
a
real,
solid
understanding
and
a
more
firm
map
of
where
exactly
all
the
flooding
is
happening
and
what
actions
need
to
be
taken
to
resolve
it.
So
that's
part
of
like
having
that
you
know
overlay
and
plan
before
we
just
start
throwing
many
different
projects.
We
actually
have
a
systematic
way
of
approaching
it.
So
that's
the
rationale
behind
that.
F
Early
to
mention
it,
but
maybe
for
the
coastal
vulnerability
kind
of
mentioning
living
shorelines.
But
it's
probably
too
early
for
just
the
assessment.
A
L
K
And
yeah.
L
B
Some
direction
on
that
and
we're
set
with
that
item
all
right.
So
then,
moving
along
to
item
number
four,
which
is
the
continued
discussion
of
the
star
community
framework,
and
I
went
ahead.
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen
so
that
everybody
can
see
what
I
did.
I
asked
staff
to
send
out
the
I
took
the
the
feedback
that
I
got
from
everybody
from
last
meeting.
Put
it
into
a
spreadsheet
shared
it
with
you
guys,
but
I
did
go
back
in
and
kind
of
ordered
or
I
put
some
weight
on
the
responses.
B
So
I
know
it's
little,
but
what
I
did
was
I
just
for
the.
B
For
the
columns,
the
the
priority
topics
of
the
built
environment,
climate,
energy
economy
and
jobs,
education,
arts
and
community
equity
and
empowerment,
health
and
safety
and
natural
systems
put
in
our
responses,
and
then
I
did
an
average
just
so
we
can
see
which
priority
area
was
ranked
highest
so
that
we
can
start
to
discuss
it
by
topic
and
natural
systems
was
the
highest
based
on
the
average
and
then
climate
and
energy
was
second.
B
Health
and
safety
was
third
economy
and
jobs
was
fourth,
the
built
environment
was
fifth
equity
and
empowerment
was
sixth
and
education.
Arts
and
community
was
seventh,
and
I
did
it
both
ways,
because
karen,
I
think
you
had
six
or
seven
for
two
of
them,
so
I
averaged
them
both
and
no
it's
fine,
but
either
way
those
two
were
the
last
two.
So
for
for
the
you
know,
purpose
of
what
we're
trying
to
do.
B
It
does
kind
of
give
us
some
direction
to
be
talking
about
natural
systems
and
looking
at
those
categories.
B
Probably
next,
so
I
think
that,
as
we
start
to
have
workshop
meetings
with
city
staff,
so
in
addition
to
the
planning
department
and
having
conversations
with
them
about
the
land
development
code,
I
think
we
want
to
continue
pressing
on
with
the
sustainability
action
plan
and
having
meetings
with
staff
around.
B
And
you
know,
organizing
the
conversation
around
topic
areas.
So
it
looks
like
the
first
meeting
would
be
focusing
on
natural
systems.
B
So
what
I
would
like
is
for
us
to
take
a
look
more
closely
at
all
of
the
the
tiles
in
the
natural
systems
column
and
be
thinking
about
just
in
general,
what
we'd
like
to
have
in
the
or
what
we'd
like
to
prioritize
for
the
sustainability
action
plan,
but
then
also
how
that
might
relate
to
updates
for
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
land
development
code
and
and
things
that
would
be
woven
into
that.
A
J
Sorry,
what
was
the
number
three
health.
B
And
safety,
okay,
do
you
have
to
repeat
the
the
way
that
it
ranked
yeah.
J
H
H
B
I
go
through
it.
The
natural
systems.
The
first
component
is
green
infrastructure,
then
there's
biodiversity
and
invasive
species,
so
that
would
probably
like
the
tree
canopy
that
we're
talking
about
would
feed
into
that
natural
resource
protection.
Outdoor
air
quality
is
the
fourth.
The
fifth
is
water
in
the
environment
and
the
sixth
is
working
lands.
B
Which,
I
think
might
also
you
know-
and
I
want
to
remind
us
that
that
this
is
a
framework
it's
not
like.
We
have
to
follow
all
of
these
things
to
a
t,
but
what
it
does
is
give
ideas
of
of
actions
that
can
be
taken
so
just
to
kind
of
throw
this
out
there.
When
I
was
reading
working
lands.
I
was
also
thinking
it
could
be
working
water
because
we
had
that
report
about
how
what
was
it.
F
B
L
No,
that's:
okay,
yeah,
it's
something
I
did
talk
to
the
city
manager
about
and
he
was
supportive
of
it.
I
do
think
with
the
covid
thing
and
we're
gonna
need
to
work
through
the
format.
You
know.
I
don't
really
have
an
answer
yet
on
how
to
balance
sunshine
law
requirements
with
covid
and
social
distancing.
L
So
we've
got
to
figure
that
one
out
still,
but
as
soon
as
we
can
come
up
with
a
solution
that
everyone
can
live
with
and
want
to
come
and
attend,
then
you
know
we'll
be
letting
you
all
know
what
we
can
do.
L
I
think
at
a
minimum.
What
we
should
do
is
plan
next
agenda
items
so
that
at
least
we're
continuing
to
make
progress
in
the
format
we
do
know
is
working
for
us
but
yeah.
I
do
look
forward
to
those
daytime.
It's
going
to
be
daytime
sessions
probably
afternoon.
Isn't
that
right,
dory?
Is
that
what
everyone
indicated
was
good
for
them.
Yeah.
B
I
thought
we
had
talked
about
two-hour
meetings
and
not
going
beyond
that
because
it
would
it's.
Everybody
starts
to
like
lose
focus
after
two
hours
and
perhaps
starting
at
four,
so
maybe
four
to
six
or
maybe
three
to
five
so
that
it's
not
asking
staff
to
be
over
their
regular
workday
too
much.
B
B
All
right
any
other
questions
or
comments
about.
Do
we
want
to
yeah
so.
K
B
So
yeah,
that's
what
in
looking
at
the
the
categories
since
natural
systems
ranked
first,
the
idea
would
be
to
have
a
workshop
with
city
staff,
all
of
the
staff
members
that
would
feed
into
those
components
and
then
the
work
that
we
would
need
to
do
as
a
committee
ahead
of
time
is
to
go
through
that
all
of
those
components
and
look
at
which
of
the
goals
we
want,
because
you
know
they're
the
way
that
it's
set
up.
It's
like
you
can
do
this
or
this
or
this
and
this
so
getting
some.
B
K
L
Yes,
we
still
need
to
figure
out
the
format
for
those
daytime
meetings,
so
I'm
just
saying
conservatively
it
may
be.
A
night
meeting
is
our
next
meeting.
Unless
I
can
get
okay
work
out
and
get
everybody
saying
that
they
can
attend,
you
know
whatever
medium.
That
is.
B
And
remember:
we're
going
to
try
to
also
be
doing
those
workshop
meetings
that
are
in
regard
to
the
land
development
code
in
the
comp
plan,
so
we're
trying
to
do
a
parallel
path
here,
so
that
we're
not
waiting
for
one
to
do
the
other,
because
we
really
would
like
to
start
taking
some.
You
know
and,
and
similarly
with,
I
think,
the
land
development
code.
B
If
there
are
things
that
we
think
that
we
could
have
some
quick
wins
on
with
this,
instead
of
waiting
to
write
it
into
the
sustainability
action
plan,
I
think
that
that's
what
we
should
be
looking
to
do
as
well.
E
Just
a
point
of
housekeeping,
I
think,
do
we
need
to
clear
this
with
the
city
manager
if
we're
doing
additional
meetings,
paul.
L
No,
thank
you
karen
that's
a
great
point
and
yeah.
I
was
already
able
to
go
over
that
with
him
and
he
supports
it.
Okay,
great.
B
B
B
21St,
okay,
so
for
the
21st,
if
we
can
all
have
looked
through
the
natural
systems
segment
and
be
willing
or
ready
to
have
a
conversation
about
what
we
think
the
goals
should
be
and
targets
for
for
that,
and
then
what
some
of
the
action
items
are
and
remember?
We
don't
have
to
have
a
goal
for
each
one
of
these
six
items.
If
we
as
a
consensus,
don't
think
that
we
need
to
do
that.
We
can
also
combine
like
this.
Is
our
our
project
to
create?
So
it's
you
know.
B
B
All
right
moving
on
then
to
items
for
the
next
agenda.
B
The
the
land
development
code
and
then
also
more
information
about
the
community
communication
engagement
tool.
Is
that
correct
paul?
Yes,
so
that
would
be
an
item.
B
We
still
need
to
hear
from
the
fleet
department
and
have
a
presentation
from
them.
So
if
you
think
that.
L
I
would
suggest
one
or
the
other,
and
I
would
suggest
planning
and
zoning
for
this
one.
We
do
have
another
item
from
staff
for
this
agenda
coming
up,
the
greenhouse
gas
baseline
staff
has
been
working
with
the
model
and
I
think
they'll
be
ready
to
give
you
an
overview
of
work
completed
so
far
and
what's
ahead
and
how
it
might
shape
up.
So
I'd
like
to
put
that
on
the
agenda
or
recommend
it
be
on
there.
B
L
Yes,
I
will
ask
ashley
she's
been
doing
regular
meetings
with
her
staff
cohorts
on
the
model
input
so
ashley.
What.
H
H
So
we've
been
working
on
electricity
and
we
do
have
the
water
division
that
we're
working
on
as
well.
So
we'll
be
able
to
give
you
some
information
about
what
we've
been
doing
on
it
as
it
pertains
to
those
areas.
B
B
Well,
I'd
like
to
try
and
flesh
out
where
we
land
with
the
natural
systems
as
well,
so
that
we
go
to
one
of
the
workshops
with
ideas.
So
if
we
can,
I
think
if
we
can
get
those
three
things,
that
would
be
a
very
full
meeting.
B
B
Thank
you
so
we'll
go
to
staff
comments.
L
I'd
just
like
to
mention
that
please
continue
to
monitor
board
of
commissioners
agendas
and
activities.
I
do
know
that
they're
going
to
be
having
some
workshop
town
hall
type
meetings
coming
up,
looks
like
early
in
the
year
and
one
of
them
is
homelessness.
Don't
quote
me
on
this,
but
I
think
it's
february
seventh,
second,
something
in
that
time
frame,
but
if
I
once
I
confirm
it
I'll
send
it
out
to
you
all,
but
I
thought
that
is
certainly
tying
into
one
of
the
areas
of
interest
some
of
the
members
have
expressed.
L
L
C
M
Hi
good
evening,
thank
you
for
let
giving
me
the
unmute.
My
name
is
brian
anderson.
I
am
not
a
resident
of
safe
darpan
springs,
however,
I
am
I've
been
acting
as
the
city's
stormwater
consultant.
Basically,
since
2009
I've
been
worked
with
paul
on
a
number
of
projects
in
the
city
for
a
number
of
years
now
one
I
just
wanted
to
introduce
myself
and
say
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
invite
paul
to
the
meeting.
M
I
do
plan
to
be
a
part
of
these
meetings
in
the
future.
My
comment,
though,
getting
back
to
the
public
comment
period,
was
one.
There
was
a
comment
earlier
about
riverside
flooding
at
riverside
in
chesapeake.
I
just
thought
I
could
add
a
little
bit
shot
shine.
A
little
light
on
that
I
in
it
the
flooding
at
chesapeake
and
riverside
will
be
addressed
as
part
of
the
beckett
street.
I'm
sorry,
the
beckett
bridge
replacement
project.
M
That
area
has
been
a
known,
flooding
issue
with
within
the
city.
For
a
long
time,
it
was
communicated
to
pinellas
county
when
the
beckett
street
beckett
bridge
project
came
online
and
they
are
resolving
that
flooding
problem
with
that
project.
We've
reviewed
the
plans
and
made
sure
that
that
area
is
being
addressed.
So
that's
that
was
the
only
thing
I
wanted
to
add.
B
A
B
All
right,
and
are
there
any
other
folks
that
are
on
the
zoom.
B
K
Comments,
I'd
just
like
to
welcome
our
newest
member
carol
mickett.
She
is
alternate
number
two
and
just
welcome
her
to
to
the
committee
and
and
she's
got
a
good
good
mind
and
a
good
heart.
So
I
think
she's
a
welcome
addition
to
our
group.
B
N
N
I
work
as
an
artist
I
collaborate
with
robert
stackhouse.
We
have
a
studio
on
center
street
in
the
old,
joe
colacus
building
right
next
to
his
new
one.
It's
the
white
building.
It's
also
on
the
bike
trail.
We
are
robert
stakas
and
I
are
currently
creative,
pinellas's
art
laureates
and
we
work
in
the
around
the
issue
of
climate
change,
doing
work
on
the
increase
of
co2
in
the
waters
and
the
heating
up
of
the
waters
and
different
ways
to
mitigate
that.
We
will
be
having
a
really
large,
though
creative
pinellas
in
march.
N
It
was
supposed
to
be
in
january,
but
because
of
covet
they're
postponing
it
and
it'll
fill
all
of
the
galleries,
and
it
will
also
include
performance
and
we're
going
to
set
up
panel
discussions
with
the
botanical
gardens
and
florida
extension
and
probably
the
marine
school
in
usf,
and
any
other
suggestions
to
have
discussions
about
that,
and
also
to
talk
about
how
to
communicate
these
sorts
of
issues
through
art,
which
addresses
a
whole
different
audience
and
can
raise
these
issues
and
get
people
to
think
about
things
in
a
way
that
maybe
a
platform
like
this
wouldn't
work.
N
So
much.
So
I'm
very
excited
to
be
part
of
this,
because
all
of
the
things
about
sustainability
about
climate,
whatever
ends
up
with
social
justice,
because
people
who
most
get
affected
by
this
are
people
of
low
income
and
especially
brown
and
black
people.
And
these
are
ways
that
we
really
have
to
address.
N
And
I
think
I
will
learn
a
lot
from
being
on
this
committee.
And
then
I
can
do
more
on
my
part
in
terms
of
working
with
the
community
and
making
better
art.
B
J
Well,
paul
had
mentioned
that
the
next
boc
meeting
he
thought
was
at
the
seventh.
I
think
it's
a
continuation
of
the
anclote
harbor
conversation
because
they
had
the
law
a
very,
very
long,
boc
meeting
on
tuesday.
I
had
waited
online
trying
to
see
what
was
going
to
be
discussed
and
what
the
public
comments
were
going
to
be,
but
they
were
far
from
getting
to
that
point,
so
it
has
been
rescheduled,
and
I
guess
only
by
word
of
mouth
will
people
know
about
it.
At
this
point,
I
think
it's
january
7th
six
o'clock.
J
I
think
that's
a
thursday
night,
it's
the
day
after
epiphany.
That's
the
reason
that
that
date
was
chosen
to
try
to
do
it
before
the
next
boc
meeting,
but
they're
only
going
to
finish
the
conversation
on
the
end
float
harbor
project
which
had
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
from
the
public.
Were
there
when
the
end
there
were
about
75
people
still
online.
B
Well,
I
will
share
just
for
I
guess:
a
little
public
education.
We
switched
out
our
water
heater
and
it
was
original
to
the
house.
So
it
was
much
older.
It
survived
a
much
longer
life
than
I
think
it
should
have
so
at
any
rate
we
bought
they
sell
and
I
I
and
the
reason
I'm
bringing
it
up
is
just
because
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
people
know
about
it.
B
But
it's
a
heat
pump
water
heater
hybrid,
so
it
pumps
hot
50,
if
you
think
about
your
refrigerator
and
how
it
gives
that
hot
air
off
the
back.
It's
basically
the
opposite
of
that.
So
it's
pumping
in
the
hot
air
and
using
that
to
heat
the
water,
so
in
the
summer
months,
it'll
cool
the
garage
and
also
make
our
water
warmer
and
save
a
ton
of
energy
and
money.
B
So
our
last
system
used
about
5
000
kilowatt
hours
a
year,
which
is
a
lot
that
adds
up
to
about
600
for
that
one
appliance
that
that's
the
second
largest
energy
drain
in
in
the
home,
on
average,
behind
your
hvac
system
and
our
new
system
will
use
about
958
kilowatt
hours
annually.
So,
instead
of
spending
like
600
and
something
dollars
in
electricity
for
the
year,
it'll
be
closer
to
100
and
so
it'll
be
about
a
500
savings.
B
So
while
the
hybrid
system
is
more
expensive
than
just
a
conventional
heat
pump
or
on
that
heat
pump,
water
heater
it
within
two
years,
we'll
pay
for
itself
in
energy
efficiency
savings
and
then
we'll
keep
adding
on
to
that.
B
So
just
throwing
that
out
there
to
to
my
to
my
committee
members
and
also
to
the
public
in
general
that
I
really
am
a
dork
and
you
know,
got
excited
really
excited
about
saving
that
much
energy
in
a
year
and
also
that
much
money
and
just
I
had
no
idea
it
wasn't
an
eye-opening
experience.
So
passing
that
along
dory.
J
I
was,
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
we
must
be
on
the
same
mental
wavelength,
because
we're
just
we're
just
discussing
that
how
what
an
energy
drain
the
hot
water
heater
is
and
that
it
wanted
to
switch
to
something
different,
we're
looking
for
some
type
of
on-demand
system.
J
B
I
don't
remember,
is
it
electric,
it's
elec,
it's
a,
they
call
it
a
hybrid
electric,
hybrid
heat
pump,
hybrid
yeah,.
L
An
on-demand
system
is
a
little
bit
different.
That's
usually
a
gas
system
that
puts
a
flame
to
the
to
the
water.
In
a
relatively
s,
almost
zero
storage-
I
don't
think
those
are
necessarily
energy,
efficient,
they're,
probably
more
water
efficient,
because
you
don't
waste
a
lot
of
water
waiting
for
the
hot
water
to
come.
L
But
I
think
what
dory's
talking
about
is
an
electric
I've
researched
them,
and
it's
great,
I
I
think
it's
really.
As
she
said
it's
it's
a
big
energy
saver,
but
it's
usually
a
little
bit
bigger.
My
next-door
neighbor
has
one
a
little
bigger
than
a
normal
electric
water.
Heater
has
like
a
unit
on
the
top.
I
don't
know
if
this
sounds
like
yours
or
not,
but.
A
L
Is
electric
and
utilizes
the
thermodynamics
to
heat
the
water
instead
of
just
pure
electricity.
B
It's
it
really
isn't
that
much
bigger
than
the
one
that
we
had.
I
it
fits
in
the
same
like
little
square
of
the
corner
of
the
garage,
but
it's
cool
because
it's
programmable
so
like
a
smart
thermostat,
you
can
program
it
when
you're
on
vacation
to
just
not
turn
on.
K
That
is
so
cool.
I
would
love
to
see
that
on
our
website
or
something
just
like
a
a
hint
like
tips
for
the
community.
So
if
people
are
considering
that
they'll
have
that
knowledge,
I
had
no
idea
that
existed,
and
so
now
I
you
know
now
when
I
go
hopefully
not
tomorrow,
but
when
I
go
shopping
for
that
I'll
think
I'll
have
something
to
think
about.
You
know
that's
energy
efficient
that
contributes
to
our
vision
and
mission.
As
on
this
committee,
so
that's
great
yeah.
I
mean.
B
If
that's
something
we
could
add
to
the
website,
I
would
be
happy
to
type
up
our
little
story
of
and
share
the
numbers.
I
mean
it
was
like
I
said
about
a
thousand
dollars
more
than
a
conventional
water
heater,
and
I
asked
our
plumber
like
why
don't
more
people
I've
never
heard
of
this?
How
come
I
don't
know
about
this
and
he's
like?
I
guess
just
people
just
don't
think
about
it
and
it's
you
know
that
upfront
cost
is
more
expensive.
B
N
I
think
that
that
what
roger
suggested
is
a
really
good
thing
to
have
on
the
website
a
sense
of
a
place
for
tips,
sustainability
tips
because
one
of
the
best
ways
to
impact
the
way
people
live
is
to
present
things
that
people
can
actually
do
right
like
plant
a
tree
plant,
some
mangroves,
you
know
get
that
type
of
pump
and
and
people
don't
know.
N
Often
we
don't
know
that
we
can
do
that
and
if
they're
practical
things-
and
it
says
you
know-
this-
is
how
you
do
it-
that's
something
people
will
actually
do
and
it
can
really
change
all
of
our
lives.
So
robin,
I
think,
that's
really
brilliant,
and
I
think
that
if
we
could
bring
ideas,
but
also
with
this
community
engagement,
we
can
have
a
place
where
things
like
that
could
occur
and
share
knowledge.
E
J
E
It
literally
because
if
you
you
know,
could
have
your
little
section
of
did.
You
know
that,
and
one
of
the
very
first
things
that
comes
up
is
that
you
can
actually
get
a
hybrid
water
heater
and
then
just
a
little
bit,
you
know,
share
your
little
story
or
what
you
know.
What
have
you
said?
People
are
aware
of
that
and
then
again
the
same
like
you
know,
did
you
know,
and
I
might
have
a
little
fact
about
the
mangroves
or
what
have
you
and
why
it's
important
to
plant
them.
E
Again,
I
think
that's
a
really
valuable
tool
because
it
all
goes
back
to
again.
You
don't
know
what
you
don't
know.
A
E
Just
I
apologize
sorry
paul,
I
just
my
comment
was
it
brings
us
kind
of
full
circle
back
to
the
the
did
you
know
and
the
education
piece
that
we
started
with
several
months
ago,
that
you
know
you
don't
know
what
you
don't
know
and
so
by
putting
up
a
little,
you
know
that
little
column
you
know,
did
you
know
that
there's
a
hybrid
water
heater.
E
You
know
because
again
you
know.
If
I
had
to
have
a
hot
water
heater
replaced,
the
plumber
would
come
out
and
he
would
say
all
right
great
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
replace
it,
and
you
know
they
have
a
newer
model
of
what
you
had
and
I
would
look
and
say
that's
great
thanks.
You
know
so
I
think
that
little
piece
on
the
website
of
information
and
then,
as
we
accumulate,
more
information
as
carol
over
here
was
saying
about
the
you
know
the
mangroves
or
the
tree.
Canopy
is
a
you
know.
E
Did
you
know
this
about
the
mangroves,
and
then
you
can
have
your
little
blurb
to
educate
the
community
on
it
so
that
when
they
are
looking,
you
know,
you
know
whether
it
is
to
put
new
trees
out
or
what
have
you.
They
have
a
little
more
information.
Yes,.
I
We
could
do
the
same
kind
of
did.
You
know
things
with
native
plants
versus
turf
grass,
turf
grass
is
an
invasive
and
it's
it
doesn't
really
belong
in
florida,
but
most
people
have
it.
If
you
replace
it
with
native
plants,
you
don't
have
to
use
fertilizer,
and
many
of
the
many
of
the
native
plants
are
drought
and
salt
resistant.
I
The
other
thing
is
that
if
you
replace
turf
grass,
which
you
know
you
use
a
lot
fewer
chemicals,
if
any,
we
don't
use
any
chemicals,
we
replaced
all
of
the
turf
grass
around
our
house
with
florida
native
plants,
and
there
are
the
benefits
of
we
have
songbirds.
We
have
butterflies,
hummingbirds,
etc
that
we
didn't
have
before
this.
I
I
I
Like
dory
was
mentioning
with
the
water
heater,
the
upfront
cost
looks
prohibitive
to
people,
but
the
return
on
investment
is
it's
about
six
and
a
half
seven
years,
and
then
everything
is
free,
so
there
this
is
a
good
idea.
This
is
a
really
good
idea.
There
are
a
lot
of
ways
we
could.
We
could
kind
of
inform
the
public
in
bits
and
pieces.
L
I
was
going
to
suggest,
as
dory
started
for
us
is
maybe
think
about
for
the
future
under
committee
comments.
Committee
members
talk
about
a
few
things,
they've
done
just
just
as
dory
mentioned,
and
dr
robinson,
I
think
that's
great
examples
of
you
know,
walking
the
walk.
F
Got
a
quick
one:
okay,
just
some
personal
news,
I
graduated
hey,
got
my
bs
in
environmental
science
and
policy,
so
I'm
done
with
school.
B
Get
your
linkedin
put
up
on
the
city's
website
there
we
go.
Congratulations,
that's
great
all
right!
Well!
I
guess!
Then,
if
there
isn't
anything
further,
then
happy
solstice,
coming
up
to
everybody
on
the
21st.
It's
almost
here
the
longest
day
of
the
night,
and
then
we
start
getting
shorter,
shorter
nights.
Happy
hanukkah,
merry
christmas,
happy
new
year
hope
that
2021
is
infinitely
better
than
2020.