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A
B
B
B
C
C
Members
physically
present,
and
with
that,
we
want
to
observe
that,
but
also
allow
the
opportunity
for
those
that
were
not
able
to
make
it
under
exceptional
circumstances
to
be
allowed
to
participate.
But
that
will
be
up
to
motion
and
vote
of
the
board.
So
I'll.
Ask
the
chair,
dory
larson
to
first
acknowledge
that
we
do
have
a
quorum.
B
Thank
you
paul.
So,
like
was
mentioned,
there
are
a
couple
of
options
that
we
can
take
tonight
to
either
allow
participants
to,
or
I'm
sorry
other
committee
members
to
participate
remotely
because
of
the
exceptional
circumstances.
B
That
would
be
one
option.
A
second
option
would
be
to
excuse
their
absence
but
not
allow
them
to
participate,
so
they
would
not
be
voting
and
would
not
be
they
would
be
moved
to
participant
on
the
zoom
call.
The
third
option
is
to
recognize
them
as
absent
and
not
excused,
and
that
would
also
mean
that
they
cannot
participate
and
cannot
vote
in
tonight's
meeting.
So
what
we
need
to
do
is
go
through
each
of
the
committee
members
and
make
that
determination.
B
So
I'm
going
to
need
a
motion
for
each
so
we'll
do
three
separate
motions,
one
for
each
of
the
committee
members.
So
the
two
committee
members
and
alternate.
D
B
And
then
the
the
motion
would
either
be
that
you
we
are
because
of
exceptional
circumstances,
allowing
them
to
participate
remotely
or
recognizing
them
as
an
absence
and
excusing
it,
which
would
allow
them
not
to
vote
and
or
the
third
option
would
be
to
recognize
them
as
absent
without
excuse
me,
and
they
would
also
not
be
able
to
vote
so
I
will
leave
it
turn
it
open
for
a
motion.
E
I
would
so
just
my
first
motion
like
each
one
is
a
separate
motion:
correct
okay,
so
who
are
we
starting
with?
Does
it
make
a
difference?
Let's
start
with
the
vice
chair,
okay,
I
would
make
a
motion
that
vice
chair,
dr
robinson,
be
allowed
to
participate
due
to
the
unusual
circumstances
via
zoom
call
and
be
considered
present
for
tonight's
meeting.
Thank.
A
B
Okay,
boo,
all
in
favor,
aye,
aye.
E
Okay,
so
then
I
will
make
a
motion.
Thank
you
to
allow
oh
gosh.
We
have
denise
denise
menino
to
participate
via
zoom
call
due
to
extraordinary
circumstances
and
be
considered
present
for
tonight's
meeting.
D
B
All
in
favor
aye,
okay,
so
we're
recognizing
denise,
menino
and
then
robin
singer
is
our
alternate.
Okay,.
D
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
accept
her
during
and
whatever
circumstances
and
count
her
as
present
for
the
meeting.
D
H
B
Thank
you,
okay.
So
our
next
item
of
business.
Our
first
item
is
the
approval
of
minutes,
so
we
all
should
have
received
the
minutes
from
the
september
17th
meeting
and
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
address
the
minutes
of
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
B
A
C
Yeah
they
were
sent
out.
I
think
it
might
have
been
a
few
weeks
ago.
It
was
quite
some
time
ago
from
today
they
were
sent
out.
Perhaps
you
want
to
ask
someone
else
to
second
remotely.
A
A
B
I
B
All
right!
The
next
item
is
approval
of
the
october
15th
minutes.
So
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
those
minutes.
I
B
B
Okay.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
a
presentation
from
karen
lemons,
our
economic
development
director
and
I
see
kan
in
from
zoom
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
tonight.
I
appreciate
you
making
the
time
to
tell
us
all
of
the
wonderful
things
you
guys
are
working
on
so
I'll
hand
it
over
to
you
karen.
J
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
invitation
and
for
everything
that
the
committee
is
doing
to
you
know
promote
sustainability
in
our
city.
I
thought
I
would
begin.
I
wanted
to
provide
you
with
a
summary
of
the
economic
impact
study
that
we
had
done
for
the
marine,
commerce
and
tourism
industries.
J
You
might
know
a
little
bit
about
this,
but
this
was
a
study
that
we
had
contracted
for
to
help
secure
funding
for
the
enclave
river
dredge
and,
as
you
probably
know,
we've
secured
the
funding
and
I
think
in
part
thanks
to
the
data
that
the
study
provided,
and
I
think
that
data
will
be
helpful
to
this
committee
too.
J
In
terms
of
you
know
showing
how
valuable
it
is
to
preserve
our
waterways
and
and
protect
our
our
vulnerable
commercial
areas,
especially
sponge
docks
to
our
economy,
and
I
know
that
tonight
you're
talking
about
the
the
star
community
rating
system-
and
I
want
to
thank
you-
you
provided
me
or
paul
or
dory
with
the
the
documents.
J
J
But
first
I
wanted
to
talk
about
my
role
with
the
city
and
I
know
some
of
you,
but
not
all
of
you.
So
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen.
I
have
a
couple
of
slides.
J
J
Okay,
so
essentially
as
economic
development
manager,
I'm
the
liaison
to
the
business
community,
which
includes
business
attraction,
business
retention,
business
expansion-
essentially
it's
it's
being
in
touch
with
the
local
businesses,
so
we
can
keep
up
with
any
challenges
and
opportunities
that
they're
experiencing
work
with
them
as
much
as
we
can
to
help
them
grow
and
succeed.
J
Also
work
really
closely
with
realtors
and
brokers
and
site
selectors
for
new
business
attraction
and
really
closely
with
our
county
region
and
state
economic
development
organizations,
because,
as
a
small
community,
you
know
our
economic
development
office
is
one
person.
So
it's
it's,
not
a
traditional
edo
that
you
would.
You
know
see
in
larger
cities,
but
I
think
we
do
pretty
well
and
we
have
the
resources
of
pinellas
county
and
they've
been
really
good,
especially
with
data
research
for
us.
J
J
J
I
also
work
on
tourism
partner
with
our
cultural
services
department
and
marketing
and
advertising
liaison
to
the
chamber
and
the
merchants
association,
and
we
work
together
on
festivals
and
events,
including
the
first
friday,
and
I
really
hope
that,
sometime
next
year
we
can
bring
those
first
fridays
back,
because
we've
really
been
missing.
J
Those
and
also
I've
been
doing
some
work
on
historic
preservation
projects
and
we're
currently
having
some
building
plaques
manufactured
that
tell
the
history
of
some
of
our
older
buildings
downtown
and
were
applying
for
state
historic
markers
for
sites
and
buildings
throughout
the
city.
J
So
it's
a
pretty
diverse
and
and
fun
job
that
I
have
so
to
to
go
in
with
economy
and
resiliency.
J
You
know
from
my
standpoint
in
economic
development,
it's
really
about
how
we
balance
economic
growth,
with
environmental
sustainability
and
in
the
development
world
is.
As
probably
you
all
know,
it's
all
about
the
return
on
investment,
and
you
know
some
developers
are
reluctant
to
to
make
those
upfront
investments
and
they
cite
extra
costs
and
they're,
probably
not
fully
understanding
that
you
know
spending
the
money
up
front
to
build
or
protect.
You
know
the
property
from
climate-related
risk
really
pays
off
in
the
long
run.
J
I
I
go
back
to
a
study
that
the
urban
land
institute
center
for
sustainability
put
out.
It
was
titled
returns
on
resilience
and
it
showed
the
business
side
of
sustainable
building.
It
had
10
case
studies
on
development
projects
where
the
properties
were
were
built
or
restored
to
protect
against
climate-related
threats
and
how
they
measured
their
success,
and
it
included
two
projects
in
florida.
One
was
in
miami,
it
was
an
office
tower
and
one
in
south
florida
it
was
a
tourist
resort.
They
both
addressed.
J
You
know
how
they
built
it
to
withstand
hurricanes,
tropical
storms
and
storm
surge.
Ultimately,
the
the
studies
showed
that
there
there
is
a
good
payback
from
resilience
efforts
and
the
returns
are
definitely
measurable.
It
showed
cost
savings
from
preventing
damages,
reducing
operating
costs,
revenue
increases
from
marketing
efforts
and
the
image
of
the
project.
They
found
that
people
were
willing
to
spend
more
money
on
either
leasing
or
renting
a
room
stays
because
the
buildings
were
safe
and
they
were
built
to
resist
severe
weather.
J
It
also
found
that
those
projects
provided
that
are
financing
options
and
insurance
rates
for
the
the
building
owners.
J
Sorry
about
that,
so
my
point,
I
guess,
is
that
spending
upfront
on
sustainable
practices
leads
to
money
saved
on
the
road,
and
you
know
the
more
that
we
can
promote
resilience
more
competitive.
You
know
our
economic
environment
will
be,
and
I
think
the
more
the
building
community
can
be
educated
on
this.
The
more
that
we'll
start
seeing
sustainable
practices
and.
J
The
star
framework
under
the
the
jobs
and
economy
goal,
one
of
the
areas
was
business
retention
and
development
and
again
the
the
sign
of
a
healthy
business
climate
to
me
is
not
always
those
new
businesses
that
come
in
the
ones
that
get
all
the
headlines
you
know
lowe's
is
coming
in
and
bringing
100
jobs,
or
this
new
manufacturing
company
is
coming
in
with
with
all
these
jobs,
but
especially
for
our
type
of
community.
It's
the
number
of
long-established
businesses
that
are
operating
here
and
the
number
that
have
expanded
or
added
new
locations.
J
J
It
involved
one-on-one
meetings
with
our
business
owners,
which
essentially
is
chatting
with
them,
so
we
can
help
them
address
their
needs
and
see
what
their,
what
their
trends
are
doing,
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
help
them
with,
and
in
that
method
you
know
looking
at
sustainability,
we
can
be
proactive
and
asking
them
specifically
about
sustainability
practices
that
they're
currently
doing
or
any
needs
that
they
have
to
get
more
educated.
J
Many
of
these
resources
are
environmentally
related.
There's
a
clean,
marina
program
through
fdep
five
of
our
marinas
are
designated
clean
marinas,
including
the
cities,
marina,
there's
a
green
lodging
program.
A
J
They
were
supposed
to
break
around
this
year,
but
obviously
it'll
be
sometime
next
year,
there's
also
a
small
business
environmental
assistance
program
that
helps
them
with
regulatory,
environmental
regulations
and
we've
had
at
least
two
businesses.
I
know
of
that
have
taken
advantage
of
this
program
and
then
another
one
of
the
the
target
areas
I
looked
at
was
the
local
economy.
J
We
are
very
persistent,
I
guess
I'd
say
at
shopping.
Local,
we've
developed
social
media
pages.
We
encourage
shop,
local
campaigns,
we've
created
a
website
that
focuses
on
local
stores
and
restaurants
and
parks
and
things
to
do
and
how
to
spend
a
day
here
weekend
here
a
full
week
and
our
downtown
business
owners
have
gotten
together
to
do
their
own
shop,
local
programs.
J
We
have
many
restaurants
that
are
using
organic
ingredients
and
sourcing
food
locally
from
local
suppliers,
and
I
think
covid
has
changed
the
the
landscape
in
terms
of
takeout
take
out
products.
I've
had
several
discussions
with
businesses,
restaurants
in
particular,
about
takeout
containers
and
the
more
they've
been
doing
it.
The
more
they
realize
that
you
know
all
the
styrofoam
is
really
not
such
a
good
idea
and
they've
been
seeking
out
affordable
options
that
are
environmentally
responsible
rather
than
using
the
you
know
the
traditional
containers.
J
You
know
the
chamber
of
commerce.
I
was
thinking
about
this.
They
had
a
a
restaurant
working
group
at
one
time.
They
they
used
to
have
a
number
of
subgroups
that
were
different
business
clusters.
That
would
get
together
periodically
and
discuss
issues,
and
they
don't
do
that
anymore.
But
I
see
an
opportunity
here,
for
you
know
the
chamber
to
potentially
develop
a
business
group
that
you
know
perhaps
could
focus
on
sustainability
practices.
J
The
other
thing
I
think
about
sustainability
is
is
from
an
economic
standpoint,
but
also
it's
about
health
wellness.
You
know
and
well-being.
You
look
at
walkability
we've
been
making
so
many
improvements
to
safford
avenue
and
the
trail.
J
We
have
incentives
in
our
code
that
reduce
parking
requirements
for
businesses
that
locate
along
the
pinellas
trail
if
they
install
bike
racks
brighter
days.
Brewery
is
an
example
of
that.
We
have
incentives
that
allow
for
no
parking
requirements
in
certain
areas
of
the
downtown.
You
know
that's
again
to
encourage
walkability
and
urban
living
less
reliance
on
cars.
J
It's
an
area
that
we've
been
working
hard
on
and
that's
you're,
starting
to
see
that
that's
leading
to
more
businesses
that
have
an
opening
on
that
north
end
from
tarpon
avenue
to
the
sponge,
docks
and
renovations
that
are
being
made
to
existing
buildings.
So
all
it
adds
to
a
you
know:
a
healthy
walkable
community.
J
You
know
healthy
communities.
Also
our
dog
park,
our
splash
park,
the
fitness
park.
You
know
all
of
those
things
are
promoting
health
and
wellness
in
our
community.
J
The
community
garden
was,
you
know,
one
of
my
most
favorite
projects.
That
was
a
really
great
partnership
between
the
city
and
the
and
the
garden
group,
and
I
think
some
of
you
may
have
been
involved
in
that.
I
don't
know
denise.
If
jimmy
is
your
husband.
Yes,
he
is
okay.
Well,
he
was.
He
was
one
of
the
early
ones
that
I
worked
with
mark
bartholomew
and
lynn
and
mary
floor,
and
that
was
three
years
ago
already,
but
it's
amazing
to
see
how
how
that
all
came
together
in
the
current
success
of
it
right.
J
You
know
also,
in
terms
of
you
know,
availability
of
food.
We
we
have
a
partnership
with
the
county
twice
a
year
that
they've
been
bringing
farm
share
here
to
the
city
for
food
distributions
and
they've
been
doing
those
at
the
union
academy
shepherd
center
and
st
timothy's,
so
they
try
to
bring
them
to
the
areas
that
you
know
are
needed
the
most.
J
J
J
They
provide
100
reimbursement
for
costs
of
the
businesses,
have
for
training
new
employees,
and
that
is
still
ongoing
and
they
still
have
money
available
again.
The
sbdc
they've
got
free
resources
to
help
our
local
businesses
and
pre-cova.
They
would
offer
one-on-one
group
sessions
at
st
pete
college
and
they
also
spent.
I
think
it
was
a
day
a
month
at
the
chamber,
so
you're
bringing
those
services
closer
to
our
businesses.
You
know
I
found
that
in
in
putting
on
you
know,
workshops
or
seminars
for
businesses.
J
They
don't
really
want
to
travel
any
farther
south
than
dunedin.
So
it's
important
to
to
bring
those
those
services
up
here
and
then
you
know
our
community
engagement
platform.
I
think
you
may
have
already
discussed
this,
but
you
know
the
city
is
rolling
out
a
community
engagement
platform
in
the
coming
year,
doing
a
visioning
in
strategic
planning,
exercise,
updating
comp
plan
development
code
and
the
sap
and
that's
really
exciting
for
us
and
all
these
updates.
I
know
we're
going
to
be
addressing
sustainability
and
I
know
that
this
community
will
be.
J
With
that,
I
just
want
to
take
a
couple
minutes
then
to
to
give
you
a
summary
of
the
economic
impact
study.
I
have
the
complete
study
and
then
you
know
I
can
email
that
to
you.
I'm
happy
to
share
that.
A
J
J
J
J
J
Then,
if
you
look
at
the
employment
numbers,
you
know
21
percent
of
the
total
city
workforce
works
in
the
marine
commerce
and
tourism
industry,
so
you
know
just
think
what
would
happen
if
we
lost
those
industries,
it
would
be
devastating
for
us
and
then
this
last
slide
is
our
commercial
fishing,
and
this
is
a
figure
that
I
think
surprised.
All
of
us.
J
A
full
56
percent
of
the
value
of
all
fish
landed
in
pinellas
county
comes
from
tarpon
springs.
So
again,
imagine
if
we
were
unable
to
dredge
the
ankle
river
or
we
lost
the
sponge
docks.
You
know
due
to
sea
level
rise
and
constant
flooding,
so
you
know
the
more.
We
continue
to
have
discussions
and
you
know
make
sustainable
practice
as
a
way
of
life.
You
know
the
healthier,
you
know
our
city
will
be
and
healthier
our
economy
will
be
so
with
that
again.
J
I
want
to
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
everything
that
you're
doing
to
promote
you
know
better
practices
within
the
city.
B
Very
appreciated
and
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
at
this
point.
If
committee
members
have
questions
that
they
would
like
to
ask
about
the
presentation.
C
Or
if
I
may,
with
a
housekeeping
item
first,
I
failed
to
read.
There
was
a
note
from
the
fire
chief
on
public
meetings,
the
latest
direction-
and
you
know
those
physically
present
or
to
wear
masks
when
you're
speaking,
you
are
permitted
to
lower
your
mask.
In
fact,
I'm
told
it
helps
better
for
the
pickup
of
the
microphone,
but
then,
when
you're
done,
if
you
just
put
it
back
on
so
want
to
tell
everybody
that,
thank
you.
G
Karen,
this
is
paul
robinson,
the
website
shop.
Local.
Can
you
tell
us
more
about
that
and
how
we
can
access
it?
G
It
might
be
a
useful
thing
for
us
to
to
help
you
advertise,
maybe
even
put
it
on
well,
whatever
you
can
share
with
us
on
that.
I
would
appreciate.
J
Okay,
sure
yeah,
the
website
is
actually
called
explore.
Tarpon
springs
explore,
explore
tarpon,
springs.com,
okay,
there's
a
business
directory
on
there,
there's
all
kinds
of
of
things
on
there.
You
know
the
other
thing
I
I
didn't
mention,
but
I'd
like
to
you
know
put
out
there
too
is
I
do
it
an
economic
newsletter
every
month?
It's
an
it's
emailed.
J
I
don't
know
if
all
of
you
are
are
subscribed
to
it
or
not,
but
it's
a
good
overview
of
things
that
are
happening
in
the
city
from
a
business
perspective,
and
you
know
I'd
certainly
be
happy
to
put
any
information
about
sustainability
efforts
or
you
know,
tips
for
businesses
on
what
to
do
or
if
there's
anything
that
you
have
that
you
think
would
be
beneficial
for
for
businesses
to
know
about
or
learn
about.
I
I
can
put
that
on
there
and
I
can
always.
G
I
think
that
would
be
great.
I
think
we'd
like
to
see
that
we
referred
to
local
restaurants
that
use
recyclables.
G
One
of
the
things
we've
thought
about
is
acknowledging
honoring
local
businesses
that
do
things
like
that
if
we
could
have
such
a
list
and
if
it
could
be
updated
from
time
to
time.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
to
this
committee.
J
Okay,
I
can,
I
can
put
something
together,
for
I
don't
have
a
formal
list,
but
in
my
head
I
know
several
of
them,
so
I
can
put
something
together
for
you.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
anything
along
that
line.
I
think
we'd
find
useful,
and
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
say
is
that
the
economic
impact
study,
the
numbers
you
threw
out
are
exciting,
they're,
startling,
really
but
they're
very
exciting,
and
I
think
we
would
love
to
see
the
environmental
impact
study.
K
Hi,
karen,
it's
it's
robin
hi.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
the
folks
who
read
your
business
newsletter,
which
I
subscribe
to
it's
excellent.
K
What's
business
happenings
in
tarpon
springs
to
when
you
talked
about
the
percentage
of
fish
caught
here,
56
of
all
fish
are
caught
here
in
tarpon
springs
and
the
intersectionality
with
our
our
city
tree
being
the
red
mangrove
and
understanding
that
the
healthier
our
mangrove
environment
is
the
closer
into
shore
and
the
more
prolific
our
sea
life
is
so
just
to
show
how
things
are
tied
together
and
how
they
intersect.
So
it
kind
of,
I
think,
would
bring
awareness
to
you
know.
K
We
have
all
this
shoreline
and
a
very
healthy
mangrove
population,
and
that's
I'm
sure,
contributes
a
lot
to
how
why
the
number
of
fish
caught
here
in
tarpon
is
so
high
and
the
healthier
the
mangroves
are
the
closer
into
shore.
You
can
fish
too
rather
without
go,
you
know,
without
going
out
into
the
gulf,
so
just
something
that
kind
of
points
out
how
everything
is
connected,
that
that's.
Our
sustainability
is
also
connected
to
business
in
a
very
direct
way.
K
J
B
You
this
is
dory
larson.
I've
got
a
few
questions
if
it
doesn't
seem
like
anybody
else
piping
up.
So
I
will.
I
have
question
about
retention
of
businesses
is.
Is
there
are
there
metrics
that
are
kept
like
in
a
way
that
we
would
know
from
year
to
year?
If
that's
going
up
or
down
is
any
of
that
data
being
captured.
J
Yeah,
what
I
do
is
essentially
it's
an
interview
process
with
the
businesses,
so
I
I
look
at
that.
I
do
have
numbers
that
are
within
the
cra,
because
we
keep
track
of
of
business
retention
within
the
cra.
So
I
do
have
numbers
that
that
we
can
show
you
in
terms
of
businesses
that
are
coming
and
going
outside
of
the
cra.
I
don't
have
any
specific
metrics
on
that.
B
Because
I
think
that
what
we're
trying
to
get
with
some
of
the
other
areas
is
baseline
data,
so
baseline
data
for
emissions
baseline
data
for
water,
so
I
think,
having
some
like
baseline
data
of
where
we
are
with
with
business
new
businesses
and
business
retention.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
if
we're
trying
to
set
some
some
goals.
Okay,.
J
You
always
look
at
two
of
the
business
tax
licenses
because
that
that
tracks
you
know
new
businesses
and
ones
that
relocate
because
we
we
have
some
that
might
move
from
one
store
to
another
storefront.
So
we
can
take
a
look
at
those
business
tax
licenses.
B
Business
tax
licenses-
okay,
sorry,
I'm
making
notes
and
then
do
does
the
city
in
any
way
track
living
wages?
B
J
B
Okay,
I
was
listening
to
hillsborough.
County
is
also
writing
a
sustainability
action
plan
and
they
were
saying
how
I
think
about
25
of
folks.
Income
is
spent
on
transportation
in
hillsborough
county
and
that's
more
than
the
national
average.
So
if
we,
you
know
want
to
start
looking
at
those
kind
of
statistics
that
might
be
helpful.
That
was
why
you
know
just
kind
of
know
and
have
that
kind
of
information,
because
obviously
we
want
to
try
to
reduce
cost
of
living
and
increase
wages
so
that
people
can
spend
that
money
locally.
B
What
about
I
mean?
Obviously,
tourism
and
marine
commerce
are
two
targeted
industries.
Do
we
do
like
targeted
advertising
to
to
like
boaters,
to
try
to
entice
them
to
come
stay
in
the
city
and
and
are
we
doing
that
kind
of
like
targeted
outreach.
J
I
I
wouldn't
say
that
it's
targeted
to
any
specific
industry
the
advertising
we've
been
doing
has
been.
You
know,
we've
done
tv
commercials,
we've
done
billboards,
we
have
brochures,
we've
got
newspaper
websites,
we've
been
doing
digital
digital
ads
and
you
know,
and
through
the
digital
I
mean
you
can
target
that
way
very
easily
and
they
give
you
a
lot
of
metrics
with
with
the
online
digital
advertising.
J
We
we
did
some
of
that
just
this
year
this
summer,
you
know,
we
thought
we
would
try.
You
know,
come
back
to
tarpon
springs
with
covid
things
were,
I
think,
looking
a
little
bit
better
then,
and
it
didn't
happen
that
way,
but
we
got
a
lot
of
metrics
from
that.
So
through
digital
you
know
we
we
could
target
certain
certain
areas
or
certain.
B
So
it
seems
like
most
of
the
advertising
that
we're
doing
is
targeting
to
the
tourism
industry
and
trying
to
get
folks
to
come
to
the
city.
Do
we
do
any
chart
like
specific
outreach
around
the
the
marine
aspect.
J
Well,
with
our
yeah,
we,
when
we're
doing
our
tourism,
we're
promoting.
You
know
we're
promoting
the
the
the
waterways
we're
promoting
the
parks,
we're
promoting
the
sponge
docks
we
promote
ecotourism.
You
know
all
the
things,
the
kayaking,
the
canoeing,
the
things
that
you
can
see.
You
know
paddling
along
the
uncult
river
and
the
bayou.
So
we
do
do
that
and-
and
I
suppose
that
you
could
you
could
call
targeting,
because
when
we're
doing
certain
certain
ads,
we
might
focus
one
on
the
sponge
docs
one
on
downtown.
J
You
know
one
of
the
cultural
things
that
we're
doing
one
more
on
the
parks
and
recreation
aspect.
So
in
those
terms
you
know,
yes,
we
are
doing
a
little
bit
of
that
targeted
marketing
and
looking
for
people
who
you
know
might
be
seeking
out
those
different
types
of
things
and
most
of
the
the
money
that
we've
been
spending
has
been
for
the
local
area.
J
B
I
mentioned
looking
at.
B
Businesses
that
are
using
sustainable
practices-
and
commissioner
donovan
had
spoken
to
us
about
perhaps
trying
to
put
together
some
kind
of
award
to
recognize
sustainable
businesses,
and
I
think
that
that
might
be
something
and
I'm
looking
at
my
computer,
because
that's
why
I
have
my
this
meeting
pulled
up
on
my
computer.
So
that's
why
I
keep
looking
down
just
for
anybody.
B
I'm
not
looking
up
at
you,
but
I'm
seeing
you
through
my
computer.
At
any
rate,
he
had
mentioned
doing
some
kind
of
award
like
that,
and
I
think
that
our
committee
might
be
agreeable
to
doing
something
like
that.
And
so
I
was
wondering
if
you're,
if
you
would
be
interested
in
kind
of
working
with
us,
to
set
some
criteria
and
to
try
to
help
promote
that
and
if
there
would
be
any
kind
of
resources
that
we
could
tap
into
to
have
a
plaque
or
some
kind
of
something.
J
Yeah
sure
I'd
be
happy
to
to
help
with
that,
and
you
know
I
have
you
know
great
outreach
with
the
business
community,
so
I
think
we'd
be
able
to
to
gather
information
and
yeah
I'd,
be
able
to
I'd
be
happy
to
help
with
that.
B
Excellent,
I
think
those
are
my
questions
other
than
like,
if,
if
money
weren't
an
option,
what
are
some
like?
What
would
be
something
that
you
would
love
to
see
done
in
terms
of
you
know
the
economy
and
jobs
and
sustainability
in
the
city.
J
Well,
I
would
like
to
see
everything
green
I'd
like
to
see
the
sponge
docs
built
up.
I'd
like
to
see
the
the
the
streets
raised.
I'd
like
to
see
buildings,
elevated,
I'd
like
to
see
flood
proofing.
You
know
we
have
so
many
when
you
look
at
the
buildings
along
alternate
19
that
have
been
vacant.
J
A
lot
of
the
reason
is
that
those
are
below
base
flood
elevation,
and
so
it
becomes
a
real
stumbling
block
for
for
new
businesses
to
go
in
there,
and
that
was
one
of
the
incentive
grants
that
we
just
started
this
year.
It's
a
building
code
assistance
grant,
so
that
would
help
with
bringing
buildings
to
code
which
would
include
flood
proofing
or
things
like
that.
J
Yeah
I'd
like
to
see
I'd
like
to
see
the
fishing
industry
like
it
used
to
be
I'd
like
to
see
that
river,
dredged
and
and
dredged
every
you
know,
10
years,
so
that
it
stays
that
way
the
extended
turning
basin
and
even
beyond
the
enclose
river
bridge
into
that
area.
J
I'd
like
to
have
a
robust.
You
know
eco
tourism
campaign,
where
we
could
have
signage
and
and
things
along
the
river
for
kayakers
and
and
boaters,
and
people
on
paddleboards.
So
they
could
look
at
you
know:
here's
here's
this
building
or
here's
this
here
are
these.
You
know
plants
and
here's,
here's
what
they
mean
and
here's
what
they
are
to
the
city
and
and
maybe
environmental
tips.
You
know
that
you
could
have
along
some
of
our
walkable
areas
and
and
there's
just
so
much
and
you
know
that's
where
I'd
start.
I
guess.
B
Excellent,
so
I
think
that
we'll
that's
a
great
way
to
just
to,
if
there's
any
other
questions,
I'd
like
to
hear
them,
but
I
I
think
that
that
would
is
a
great
opportunity
to
continue
the
conversation,
as
we
you
know,
are
working
on
the
sustainability
action
plan
to
try
to
incorporate
some
visioning
what
we'd
like
to
see
and
and
how
we
can
make
that
happen.
So
any
other
questions.
H
Yes,
thank
you
karen.
This
is
denise
and
I
just
wanted
to
really
say
I
can't
er.
I
can't
believe
how
appropriate
your
presentation
was
for
tonight
because
of
us
entering
into
a
discussion
about
the
star
communities,
because
I
look
at
a
lot
of
the
the
goals
that
we
had
laid
out
before
us
on
the
built
environment
and
climate
and
energy
economy
and
jobs,
and
I
think
almost
every
column
on
this
page
there's
something
that
the
economic
development
office
is
involved
with
already
and
that
you
you've
had
it
in
your
mind.
H
H
That's
you
know
it's
it's
a
ver,
a
very
sad
eyesore
kind
of
then
it
and
it
could
be
green
and
there
could
be
opportunity
for
for
something
that's
very
futuristic
in
the
development
of
I
don't
mean,
futuristic
in
the
sense
of
tomorrowland,
but
you
know
something
that
would
be
aligned
to
tarpon
springs
for
the
future.
J
Yeah,
well,
that's
a
good
point,
because
you
know
the
city
can
have
visions
for
things
and
it's
not
necessarily
the
same
vision
that
the
owner
of
a
property
has
right.
We
do
work,
we
do
work
well
together.
That
building
you
know
in
winn-dixie,
moved
out,
it's
been
several
years
now
and
it's
been
languishing,
it
went
into
receivership
and
then
it
was
purchased
it.
Just
this
summer
there
was
an
reo
sale
for
the
property
they
put
it
out
for
bid
at
four
million
dollars,
which
is
pretty
good,
a
good
price.
J
They
you
know
it's
reo,
they
want,
they
want
to
get
rid
of
it,
and
they
did
have
several
bids
at
least
six
and
they're
reviewing
those
now,
so
it
will
be
sold
shortly
to
a
new
owner.
They
were.
We
received
a
lot
of
phone
calls
and
met
with
several
of
the
developers
who
who
bid
on
the
project
and
most
were
all
of
them
were
either
residential
projects
or
mixed-use
projects.
So
a
mix
of
residential
and
commercial.
J
Those
were
the
those
were
the
two.
There
were
a
couple
that
were
all
residential,
and
you
know
when
we
spoke
with
them.
We
said
you
know,
we
really
would
prefer
to
see
at
least
a
mix
of
some
commercial
there
and
we
we
did
speak
with
the
owners
of
the
property
and
the
the
people
who
are
brokering
that
the
reo
sale.
So
they
know
what
you
know.
What
we're
looking
for
and
they've
told
us
that
what
they
have
you
know
fits
within.
J
You
know
the
parameters
of
what
the
city
is
hoping
for,
so
we're
just
waiting
to
hear
right
now
who
who
it
was
awarded
to
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
So
now
that
it's
been
sold
it's
you
know
it
will
be
redeveloped
at
some
point
and
everyone
I
know
who
is
who
has
been
on
it.
You
know
they're
talking
about
raising
the
entire
property
and
and
building
new.
A
J
J
You
know
those
smart
code.
Practices
will
will
be
put
toward
any
plans
that
come
in
for
that
for
that
property.
H
H
Yeah,
that's.
That
is
great.
I,
I
would
just
love
to
understand
how
we
interface
with
the
owners
of
of
properties,
in
a
way
that
you
know
our
the
vision
for
the
city
is
upheld,
as
well
as
the
owner
of
the
property
having
having
the
ability
to
do
what
they
want
with
their
property.
H
I
know
that
that's
kind
of
a
can
be
kind
of
a
touchy
issue,
but
is
there
any
way
that
that
the
city
has
weight
in
incentivizing
things
to
be
done
in
a
sustainable
way
or
in
a
in
a
green
development
way
or
in
a
in
a
future?
In
a
vision,
that's
kind
of
forward-thinking.
J
Well
with
this
particular
property,
you
know
we
do
because
this
property
is
zoned
as
a
planned
development,
which
means
it's
its
own
kind
of
zoning
area.
So
when
a
project
comes
in
for
this
one
it'll
be
a
little
different
from
the
regular
site
plan
process,
because
we'll
be
talking
about
the
entire
project
as
one.
J
So
you
know
rather
than
saying
okay
we're
going
to
put
signs
here.
You
know
get
a
waiver
for
this
or
it's
going
to
be
all
one
one
project.
So
in
terms
of
that,
we
can
say:
okay
we'd,
like
to
see
our
code
really
provides,
the
you
know
the
ability
to
which
you
can
and
cannot
do,
but
outside
of
that
we
can
always.
J
You
know
with
the
plan
development
process.
We
have
a
better
opportunity
to
say
you
know
we'd
like
to
do
this.
You
know-
or
you
know,
if
you
want
to
do
this-
that's
fine,
but
then
do
this
instead,
so
there
are
opportunities
there,
but
it's
really
driven
by
the
by
the
land
development
code.
J
So
you
know
that's
where
you're
going
to
see
the
changes
made
to
be
able
to
to
require
it
to
require
versus
you
know
certain
practices
or
certain
building
areas
versus
just
you
know,
asking
for
it
or
requesting
it
or
saying
we'd
like
you
to
do
this,
and
you
know
most
of
the
developers
we
work
with
are
happy
to
to
do
those
kinds
of
things
they
want
to
get
their
project
in.
They
don't
want
to
get
it
rejected
by
the
board
of
commissioners.
J
Development
where
they
they
expanded
the
wetlands
footprint
they
put
in
some
docks
they.
What
else
did
they
do
they
put
in
a
playground?
You
know
they
they
put
in
some
sidewalks.
J
They
did
things
that
were
not
required
by
the
code,
but
it
was
things
that
that
we
asked
for,
and
they
were
happy
to
do
so
a
lot
of
times.
You
know
we
might
put
together
when
we
when
we
look
at
something
in
particular
wishlist
and
say
you
know
we
we'd
like
them
to
do
these
certain
things
and
when
you
sit
down
and
you
negotiate
over
several
several
months
with
the
site
plan
and
and
and
work
things
out.
H
J
Yes,
yes,
there
are,
there
are
shoreline.
Buffers
are
wetland
buffers.
There
are
all
kinds
of
of
requirements
that
are
put
in
to
protect
wetlands,
to
protect
waterways,
that
you
can't
build
on
certain
pieces
of
property,
there's
density
requirements.
So,
yes,
there
are
already
things
built
in
there.
I
thought
you
were
talking
about,
maybe
above
and
beyond.
J
I
can
get
that
for
you
from
the
planning
department,
there's
a
whole
code
section
that
that
references,
those
environmental.
K
Karen,
I
just
have
one
more
one,
more
quick
question
for
you
is
there
some
type
of
I
know
that
there
aren't
very
many
working
waterfronts
in
the
state
of
florida
anymore.
Is
there
any
type
of
consortium
of
of
communities
that
are
working
waterfronts
or
an
alliance
that,
where
they
work
together
to
promote
themselves
as
that,
as
almost
like,
a
tourist
driver.
J
You
know,
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
There
might
be,
I
know
when
we
were
working
on
the
marine
commerce.
We
were
the
only
working
port
north
of
sarasota.
J
You
know
the
small
working
waterfront,
as
I'm
saying,
and
I
up
in,
I
think,
the
crystal
river
area.
There
was
something
so
when
we
were
talking
about
safe,
harbors
and
a
place
to
take
your
boat,
we
were
using
that
argument
for
the
drudge.
I
don't
know
specifically
if
there
is
any
consortium,
but
you
know
we
can.
We
can
try
to
find
out
for
you.
K
B
Okay,
I
think
that
I
don't
I'm
not
hearing
any
other
questions,
so
I
do
want
to
thank
you
again,
karen
for
coming
and
talking
and
sharing
with
us
all
of
the
things
that
you
I
mean,
there's
tons
of
things
that
the
city
is
already
doing,
and
we're
very
appreciative
to
that
and
for
you,
taking
the
time
this
evening
to
to
talk
with
us
and
share
your
ideas,
so
look
forward
to
continuing
the
conversation.
B
Okay,
so
moving
along
our
next
item
for
discussion
is
the
reviewing
and
prioritizing
of
the
star
rating
system
framework.
So
I
wanted
to
kind
of
set
the
stage
for
this
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
because
I
was
the
one
that
gave
you
guys
the
assignment
to
take
a
look
at
this
and
appreciate
you
guys
taking
the
time
to
do
that,
because
I
know
that
it's
quite
a
bit
of
information
to
digest.
B
But
the
way
that
I
wanted
to
frame
it
up
is
just
not
looking
at
this
as
a
as
a
system
that
we
would
adopt
in
order
to
get
the
points
and
to
get
awards
and
to
be
recognized,
but
rather
to
use
the
way
that
they
lay
out
all
of
the
different
categories
of
sustainability,
in
a
way
that
we
can
start
using
to
create
our
our
plan
and
start
pulling
ideas
from
a
way
to
be
all
talking.
B
The
same
language
and
a
way
to
just
have
a
systematic
way
of
going
through.
Looking
at
some
of
these
ideas
and
concepts.
So
did
anybody
have
any
questions,
I
guess
about
the
system
or
what
the
intent
was
to
to
take
a
look
at
it
as
a
group
before
we
get
started
into
looking
at
what
your
preferences
were.
H
I
had
I
had
very
positive
feelings
about
it
and
you
know
on
a
lot
of
different
levels.
I
was
wondering
if
it's,
if
there's
any
possibility,
I
think
that
I
remember
we
may
have
reached
out
to
someone
in
saint
pete,
but
it
would
be.
You
know
really
nice
to
be
able
to
talk
to
some
of
the
people
that
were
responsible
for
writing.
The
integrated
sustainability
action
plan
that
they
have
if
possible,
but
I
don't
remember
whether
they
were
one
of
the
places
that
that
we
reached
out
to
that
didn't
respond.
H
I
just
know
that
I
felt
very
strongly
in
favor
of
of
utilizing
the
star
structure
and
really
participating
in
it
because
of
the
continual
evolution
that
is
inherent
to
that
whole
process
of
improvement.
H
You
know
for
the
level
of
improvement
that
you
are
inspired
to
move
towards,
and
I
think
it
would
be.
It
would
be
really
miraculous
if
all
communities
could
adopt
the
same
type
of
rating
structure.
I
mean
it
would
make
a
lot
more
consistency
between
our
communities.
If,
if
this
was
a
possibility,
I
mean
it's,
it's
wonderful.
H
It
was
just
you
know,
thoughts
that
I
had.
You
know.
I
think
that
it
incorporated
every
aspect
of
sustainability
from
you
know:
adaptation
and
resiliency,
and
protection
of
natural
resources
to
actually
discussing
culture
and
diversity
and
historical
preservation
and
human
rights.
I
think
that
that's
very
unique,
because
a
lot
of
sustainability
plans
are
just
dealing
with
only
climate
and
the
effects
of
climate
change,
but
everything
is
everything
is
part
of
the
same
fabric
and
there's
really,
you
know
no
way
to
separate
one
element
without
really
kind
of
compromising
the
strength
of
the
fabric.
H
H
Creating
you
know,
a
healthy,
sustainable
community,
which
is
a
a
rarity
when
you
look
at
guidelines
for
developing
a
plan,
so
I
felt
like
it
was.
You
know
it
would
be
wonderful
to
adopt
it.
I
know
that
you
suggested
that
we
could
just
utilize
the
plan.
I
don't
know
what,
whether
there's
a
cost
to
it
and
whether
there's
a
drawbacks.
H
If
let's
say
you
go
through
the
whole
rating
system
and
you
don't
come
out
so
well
and
then
you
kind
of
struggle
with
trying
to
quickly
raise
the
lab
bar
on
some
of
the
areas
that
you
didn't
do
so
well
on,
but
I
honestly
think
that
when
I
looked
at
the
goals,
there's
a
lot
happening
already
in
this
community.
It's
not
it
wouldn't
just
be
from
the
directives
of
the
sustainability
plan.
I
mean
we
just
talked
to
karen
and
karen
lemons,
and
she
was
almost
there
touched
on.
H
So
many
of
the
points
that
were
on
you
know
that
are
on
the
chart
that
there's
good
things
happening
here
already,
that's
so
exciting!
You
know
this
is
it's
just
a
matter
of
really
having
a
a
process
of
coordinating
everything
as
one
and
I
I
I'm
really
in
favor
of
that.
So
I
was
very
impressed
and
thank
you
dory
for
and
getting
us
going
on
this
and
giving
us
something
to
read
during
the
lol.
H
B
And
I
just
want
to
briefly
respond.
You
were
asking
about
who
created
the
the
integrated
sustainability
action
plan
for
saint
pete,
and
I
believe
that
they
had
a
a
consultant
that
that
worked
on
putting
the
plan
together
and
I
we
did
not
look
at
saint
pete's
plan
when
we
started
our
conversation
about
a
year
ago
because
it
hadn't
been
published
yet
so
they
were
in
the
process
of
of
wrapping
that
and
publishing
it.
And
so
we
did
not
have
them
talk
to
us
about
what
they
were
doing.
B
But
that
might
be
something
that
would
be
a
good
idea
for
a
future
meeting.
H
E
It
was
a
little
overwhelming
if
I'm
gonna
be
really
honest.
I
opened
it
and
closed
it
five
times
and
thought.
Okay,
now
I'm
ready,
but
it
was
a
little
overwhelming
just
to
kind
of
wrap.
My
head
around.
You
know
each
of
the
goals
and
each
of
the
you
know
actions
and,
and
what
have
you
so
yeah
I
mean
I,
I
still
need
to
kind
of
digest
a
lot
of
it.
This
is
somewhat
new
to
me,
the
whole
star
framework
and
everything
so
that
that
was
my.
E
I
agree
with
denise's
assessment
that
I
mean
it
was
very
comprehensive
and
very
you
know
detailed.
So
I
like
it,
I
just
and
I
understand
what
what
the
purpose
in
using
that
is
towards
our
goals.
But
the
same
thing
is
it's
something
that
we
eventually
think
we
actually
want
to.
B
That's
my
that
was
my
thinking
and
that's
what
I
just,
but
we
didn't
discuss
it
as
a
group,
so
today's
our
opportunity
to
do
that,
and
I
that's
why
I
wanted
to
get
some
feedback,
but
my
thought
would
be
to
not
try
to
like
spend
the
money
to
you
know:
go
through
new,
you
know
with
them,
but
to
use
it
for
our,
I
mean
we're
doing
the
plan
in-house.
That's
what
you
know.
B
That's
the
intent,
and
that
was
all
along
to
me.
This
just
helps
kind
of
like
lay
out
okay.
These
are
these
are
something
and
we
don't
have
to
pick.
You
know
we
don't
have
to
set
a
goal
for
each
one
of
these.
I'm
going
to
pull
up
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
so
that
folks
can
see
what
the
star
framework
looks
like
that.
We're
talking
about
and
kind
of.
B
There
we
go
so
this
is
the
framework
that
we're
talking
about,
and
it
has
these
kind
of
goal
areas
grouped
up
and
down
in
columns.
So
there's
a
built
environment,
climate
and
energy
economy
and
jobs,
education,
arts
and
community
equity
and
empowerment,
health
and
safety,
natural
systems,
and
then
innovation
and
practice
is
more
internally.
How
we
put
the
plan
together
and
how
we
and
how
we
roll
it
out.
B
B
A
community
action
is
what
they're
with
an
action
item
is
the
way
that
the
terminology
that
they
use
or
a
priority
action
for
each
one
of
these.
It
just
helps
kind
of
the
way
that
I'm
looking
at
it
lay
out
all
of
the
things
that
we
could
consider
for
part
of
the
plan,
and
I
think
that
the
intent
would
be
then
to
also
pull
in
city
staff
and
have
them
lay.
B
You
know
work
into
what
they
see
is
the
work
that
they
could
do
and
how
it
you
know,
fits
into
their
work
plan,
and
then
it
also
would
allow
some
kind
of
concrete
guardrails
for
when
we
are
looking
for
community
input
and
do
it
in
a
more
structured
way.
So
perhaps
we
would
have
you
know,
meetings
that
once
we
have
had
meetings
with
staff
and
have
some
objectives
and
some
goals
that
we
agree
on
working
towards
get
community
feedback
on.
B
How
would
we
do
this,
and
what
do
you
think
is
the
top
priority
and,
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
we
can
actually
have
those
more
productive
conversations
when
we're
looking
for
input
for
the
plan.
So
that
was
that's
also.
You
know
my
thought
is
that
it
helps
to
kind
of
lay
that
out.
H
I
would
agree
initially
when
I
opened
it
and
started
reading
it.
I
thought,
oh,
my
goodness,
you
know
it
was.
It
was
overkill.
I
thought
somebody
with
with
ocd
wrote
this.
You
know
I
mean
like,
so
I
can
understand
how
how
you
felt
karen
and
but
then
I
decided,
I'm
just
going
to
read
it
just
a
little
bit
at
a
time
and
try
to
digest
the
points
that
they
were
driving
at
and
I
started
appreciating
it.
H
I
started
appreciating
it
a
lot
more
when
I
approached
it
a
little
bit
more
open-mindedly,
because
my
initial
reaction
was
it
was
it
was
overwhelming.
So
I'm
not
surprised.
You
know
that
that
was
even
you
know.
Your
reaction,
or
was
anybody's
reaction
could
be.
H
I
think
that
it
just
has
a
lot
of
potential
for
utilizing
partners
too,
and
I
think
that
they
have
a
long
list
at
the
end
of
the
different
partners
that
they
were
relying
on
to
help
accomplish
the
goals.
So
it
really
involves
different
players
from
the
community.
H
B
I
just
screened
st
petersburg
sustainability
action
plan
and
for
after
each
of
the
columns
up
and
down
each
of
the
target
areas
or
focus
areas,
they
have
kind
of
a
summary
of
the
priority
actions
and
then
the
type
of
action
is
it
policy.
Is
it
you
know,
partnerships
is
it
infrastructure
and
spending
that
needs
to
happen.
They
lay
out
the
cost
or
perceived
cost
of
what
what
that
would
entail?
They
lay
out
a
time
frame.
Is
it
a
near-term
goal?
B
Is
it
a
midterm
goal
is
a
long-term
goal,
and
then
they
have
the
city
department
next
to
it,
and
then
they
have
community
partners
and
then
it
also
kind
of
overlays
the
other
goal
areas
that
it
interfaces
with.
Like
we
talked
on
our
last
call,
a
lot
of
these
concepts
are
not
you
know
in
a
vacuum
or
isolated
that
they
weave
in
and
out
of
each
other,
quite
a
bit.
So
to
me,
this
chart
at
the
end
of
each
of
the
goal
areas
helped
me
to
understand
kind
of
big
picture.
B
B
So
it
kind
of
cut
through
the
forest,
so
you
can
actually
see
a
tree
of
like
this
is
what
eventually
we
would
be
going
towards.
So
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
got
to
look
at
the
st
pete
plan
in
any
kind
of
detail,
but
that
helped
me.
E
E
G
G
You
said
it
in
november
of
last
year,
and
you
said
it
again
tonight,
that's
scary,
but
anyway,
I
agree
with
you
about
how
daunting
this
whole
star
framework
is
when
you,
if
you
just
try
to
start
reading
it
from
top
to
bottom,
which
I
did
and
was
lost
thinking,
my
god.
This
was
created
by
a
super
committee
in
which
everybody
wanted
to
get
their
little
pet
idea
and
phrase
on
the
page
dory
what
you
did
by
asking
us
to
focus
on
the
the
goals
and
the
objectives
was
extremely
helpful
to
me.
G
It
it
it
created
a
framework,
a
structure,
and
then
I
could
go
back
through
the
thing
using
a
goal
at
a
time
and
an
objective,
a
time,
and
it
was
very
easy
to
read
it
the
second
time
around,
because
we
because
I
was
looking
at
it
with
us,
with
a
structure
with
a
framework
but
there's
something
else
that
I
wanted
to
to
point
out
in
the
last
meeting.
Ramona
said
these
things
and
she
was
speaking
specifically
about
the
star
program.
G
G
G
G
There
was
something
else
that
ramona
said
she
said,
and
I
can't
quite
remember
it,
but
it
was
something
about
and
I
don't
want
to
say
validity,
but
she
was
saying
this
something
about
the
star
program
is
not
still
valid
and
we
might
want
to
look
at
green
cities
or
you
know,
and
there
was
something
else
she
said,
and
I
don't
remember
it.
But
what
did
she
mean
by
that?
C
C
So,
yes,
I
think,
with
anything,
there's
always
options.
I
think
this
represents
a
system
that,
as
dr
robinson
mentioned,
once
you
look
at
it
as
a
series
of
goals
across
the
top.
It's
relatively
simple,
but
yet
spanning
all
of
the
areas
you
could
probably
need
to
consider
and
then
I
think,
there's
a
there's
really
a
spectrum
here
of
how
detailed
you
can
get
with
this.
C
You
can
have
a
series
of
actions
for
every
single
box
underneath
the
each
area
or
in
this
case
these
are
goals
or
you
could
have
a
series
of
objectives
and
actions
that
encompass
that
column
as
a
whole,
so
sort
of
to
karen's
point.
Perhaps
you
start
off
with
a
more
overview
type
approach
and
leave
some
of
those
details
for
later
iterations
or
for
others.
C
You
know
you
simply
reference,
as
dr
robinson
mentioned,
under
the
historic
preservation
section,
you
might
simply
put
there
that
you
know
it's
it's
listed
in
the
plan,
but
it's
mentioned
or
referred
to
a
specific
committee,
and
and
that's
the
end
of
that,
but
it
is
at
least
included,
but
it
doesn't
mean
we
have
to
work
on
it.
As
a
committee.
G
C
I
believe
there's
this
is
going
to
be
a
constantly
evolving
and
changing
thing,
so
I
think
things
may
get
absorbed.
Systems
may
become
part
of
other
things,
but
I
think
that
what's
here
is
certainly
a
very
usable
system
for
us
and
a
great
starting
point.
In
fact,
part
of
our
outline
that
we
all
worked
on
has
focus
areas
that
we're
getting
to.
I
mean
this
has
already
organized
our
focus
areas
for
us.
If
we
want
to
work
in
that
direction,
so
I
think
this
is
a
great
way
to
start.
C
I
do
agree
with
dory's
point
that
if
we
avoid
getting
trapped
into
membership
and
ratings
and
trying
to
get
scores
yeah,
that's
I
see
that
as
a
barrier,
because
we
have
to
find
funding
source.
For
that,
I
want
to
say
it's
on
the
order
of
ten
thousand
dollars
a
year.
I
don't
quote
me
on
that
exact
number,
but
it's
enough
that
it
presents
a
budget
situation,
whereas
if
we
can
simply
use
it
as
an
organizational
starting
point,
we
don't
have
that
barrier
of
trying
to
find
the
money
for
it.
C
B
For
comments
about
like
do
we
do
we,
I
feel,
like
I'm,
hearing
consensus,
to
to
use
this
as
a
framework
for
how
we're
going
to
work
through
setting
goals
and
then
also
identifying
the
action
items
to
approach
those
objectives
and.
D
Goals:
okay,
they,
I
think
it's
a
pretty
thorough
framework
and
I
like
how
it
gives
examples
for
the
local
actions
that
you
can
take
and
each
one
is
kind
of
like
it
gives
a
type
of
local
action,
and
then
it
applies
to
each
and
every
one
of
them.
So
you
can
kind
of
like.
D
If
we
come
up
with
something
ourselves,
then
we
can
kind
of
apply
those
actions
to
it,
and
I
think
that
having
saint
pete
having
already
done
it,
that's
a
really
good
partnership
that
we
could
like
talk
to
them
and
figure
out
how
they
did
certain
things
and
what
kind
of
problems
they
encountered.
So
I
think
it's
a
pretty
good
place
to
start.
B
Thank
you,
taylor,
yeah,
and
I
I
think,
you're
right.
It
is
kind
of
like
a
choose.
Your
own
adventure
like
we
don't
have
to
you,
know.
There's
there
there's
so
many
different
options
listed
as
community
actions
that
can
be
taken,
and
some
of
them
are
not
things
that
our
committee
would
do.
Some
of
them
are
like
partner
with
a
non
another.
You
know
a
non-profit
organization
or
you
know,
establish
whatever
kind
of
guidelines
within
the
city.
So
there's
there's
just
lots
of
choices.
B
That's
what
I
that's
what
I
like
about
it.
I
know
that
it's
overwhelming
choices.
It's
like
you
know
like
a
buffet
where
you're
like.
Where
do
I
even
start?
But
but
I
do
like
the
flexibility
like
you
mentioned,
and
to
take
an
action
or
to
pass
as
well.
B
Well,
then,
then,
I
guess
what
I
think
might
be
helpful
next
is
to
ask
paul
to
relay
to
staff
that
we
want
to
use
this
as
a
framework
and
ask
the
folks
that
we
have
interfaced
with
so
far
to
take
a
look
at
the
framework,
perhaps
even
do
kind
of
a
video
or
something
explaining
the
framework
or
maybe
just
to
write
up
the
way
that
I
did,
whichever
would
be
helpful,
but
to
kind
of
give
them
a
tutorial
on
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
how
we're
trying
to
use
the
framework
and
then
ask
them
to
start
looking
through
the
different
goal,
areas
and
objectives
and
and
kind
of
self-identify
where
they
would
plug
into
these
different
goal
areas.
B
And
then
I
think
next
step
would
be
once
we
have
some
some
of
that
groundwork
laid
to
start
having.
I
know
dr
robinson
at
one
point
you
wanted
to
have
meetings
with
staff
to
talk
through
the
plan.
I
think
that
now
we
actually
have
something
where
we
can
say.
B
This
is
what
we
would
like
to
talk
about
with
different
departments
and
maybe
even
have
three
consecutive
meetings
where
we
would
break
it
down
and
do
like
the
built
environment,
combine
it
with
climate
energy
and
have
that
for
a
meeting
and
be
able
to
go
through
setting
some
goals
and
looking
at
action
items
with
with
city
staff
over
three
consecutive
meetings
and
and
then
be
able
to
take
what
we
learned
and
what
we
develop
in
those
meetings
and
start
to
engage
the
public.
H
I
have
a
question
for
you,
I'm
wondering
if
it's
possible,
since
I
I
really
feel
like
we
already
have
a
lot
of.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
involved
with
the
different
aspects
that
are
under
each
of
these
goals.
Is
there
any
way
to
kind
of
note
within
the
boxes
here?
If
you
know
that
something
is
already
being
worked
on?
Like
I,
in
listening
to
karen
lemons,
I
heard
okay,
local
economy,
business
retention
and
development.
H
I
mean
she
they're
already
doing
that
you
know
so
that
which
is
awesome,
living
jobs
or
quality
jobs
and
living
wages,
targeted
industry
development.
I
mean
there
were
a
lot
of
things
that,
as
she
was
speaking,
I
was
hearing
and
looking
at
my
list
and
going.
Oh,
my
gosh.
That's
already
taken
care
of
historic
preservation.
We
have
a
society
and
tarpon
that
is
really
involved
with
that
social
and
cultural
diversity.
K
Yeah
denise,
I'm
kind
of
I'm
kind
of
alone
in
your
in
your
lane.
If
you
will,
I
think
that
so
many,
what
would
be
helpful,
possibly
would
be
to
see
of
all
the
things
in
the
chart
to
see
who's
already
interfacing
in
that
way,
that's
exactly
hear
from
them
what's
lacking
what
they
have
not
been
able
to
address
with
them,
looking
at
it
through
a
sustainability
lens.
In
other
words,
they
can't
do
all
things.
K
So
there
has
to
be
unique
piece
that
the
sustainability
committee
can
provide,
or
some
type
of
thing
to
add
to
to
fill
out
their
framework
so
and-
and
it's
kind
of,
like
I
mentioned
to
karen-
well
the
the
working
waterfront-
that's
interesting,
but
the
fishing
industry-
that's
interesting,
it's
economic,
but
it
also
intersects
with
sustainability.
K
H
K
Putting
our
piece
into
it,
so
we
have
a
unique
piece
to
offer
to
what
they're
doing,
but
it
would
be
helpful
to
me
to
see
kind
of,
like
karen,
did
today
telling
us
everything
that's
being
done
and
then
thinking
okay.
Well,
what
is
where
are
the
gaps
where
we
could
bring
something
to
the
table
that
is
unique
to
our
our
lens?
If
you
will
our
vision.
H
And
I
see
that
probably
a
majority
of
our
focus
might
fall
in
climate
and
energy
and
natural
systems
in
health
and
safety.
Those
seem
to
be
the
three
that
really
are
about
the
environment
and
the
health
of
the
environment,
but
you're,
absolutely
right
that
there's
probably
pieces
that
we
can
weave
in
to
what's
already
happening
that
make
it
more
cohesive.
B
Agreed
so
what
I'd
like
to
do
just
being
cautious
of
time?
I
would
like
to
kind
of
go
through
and
and
mark
up
your
responses
in
terms
of
reading
the
the
goal
areas
and
which
are
your
like
passion
for
for
work,
not
that
it's
going
to
do
anything
in
terms
of
like
lock,
you
into
you're,
only
going
to
work
on
this
segment
of
it
or
anything.
I
just
kind
of
want
to.
B
We
talked
about
this
a
long
time
ago
trying
to
get
a
better
feel
for
what
what
each
other
are
interested
in
and
where
we
might
want
to
engage
more
so
and
lean
in
a
bit.
So
I
guess,
did
everybody
have
a
chance
to
to
do
that
activity
where
you
just
kind
of
rank
one
through
seven,
the
of
the
goal
areas.
G
B
Yeah,
okay,
so
paul,
do
you
want
to
kick
us
off.
G
Yeah
I
put
climate
and
energy
as
my
number
one,
okay,
and
you
know
you
probably
think
I
put
health
and
safety
as
number
two,
but
I
didn't
I
put
natural
systems
as
number
two
and
and
health
and
safety
is
number
three
economy
and
jobs
as
four
built
environment
as
five
equity
and
empowerment
is
six
and
education,
arts
and
community
is
seven.
G
You
know
education
is
what
I've
done
for
five
decades,
but
it
the
the
way
those
things
were
defined
in
that
particular
framework.
I
thought
were
the
least
relevant
to
this
committee,
not
they're,
not
important,
but
least
relevant
to
this
committee,
so
climate
and
energy,
one
natural
systems,
two
health
and
safety,
three
economy
and
jobs.
Four.
I
Thank
you
karen.
You
want
to
go
next
sure,
so
I
started
off
with
natural
systems.
One
okay,
health
and
safety
was
two
for
me.
Climate
and
energy
was
three
economy,
and
jobs
was
four
built.
Environment
was.
A
H
Natural
systems
number
two:
health
and
safety
number;
three
economy
and
jobs;
number
four
equity
and
empowerment;
number;
five,
six
built
environment
and
seven
education,
arts
and
community;
and
it's
not
that
I
felt
like
one
was
more
important
than
the
other
towards
the
end.
But
it's
I
was
just
looking
at
it
from
a
sustainability
perspective.
D
K
Yes,
I
had
for
number
one
natural
systems
for
number:
two:
health
and
safety
for
number:
three:
climate
and
energy
for
number:
four
economy
and
jobs;
number
five
equity
and
empowerment;
number,
six,
education,
arts
and
community
and
number
seven
builds
environment.
B
All
right
and
for
myself
I
rated-
and
these
are
like-
I
said
it's
not
necessarily
like
what
I
think
is
important.
It's
just
my
personal
values
of
where
my
interests
lie.
A
little
bit
more
climate
energy
is
one,
natural
systems
is
two
economy,
and
jobs
is
three
equity
and
empowerment
is
four.
Health
and
safety
is
five.
The
built
environment
is
six,
and
arts
and
education
and
the
community
is
seven.
So
the
next
thing
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
go
through
actually
yeah.
B
Let's,
let's
take
the
time,
I
think
we
can
get
it
done
pretty
quickly
to
see.
If,
because
there
may
be
some
areas
where
we
you
know,
don't
want
to
focus
at
least
for
this
first
round,
and
we
can
always
put
a
placeholder
in
the
you
know,
I
mean
I
don't
think
that
we
would
want
to
take
any
of
these
off
of
the
table
for
for
looking
at
a
plan,
but
you
know
thinking
about.
We
may
not
want
to
have
an
action,
an
actionable
item
for
every
single
one
of
these
objectives.
B
So
I
just
kind
of
want
to
see
where
we
lined
up
with
that.
So,
let's
go
through
again
and
just
I
think
if
you
could
read
paul
like
if
you
could
read
off
be1
and
then
if
you
gave
it
a
plus
or
a
zero
and
then
we
can
just
go
through
the
chart
quickly
like
that
and
I'll
and
I'm
taking
notes
of
it
so
that
I
can
put
it
into
like
a
spreadsheet
later.
G
I'm
muted,
sorry,
I
was
muted,
I
listed
climate
and
energy
first
and
I
g
I
put
a
plus
on
every
one
of
those
all
seven.
G
G
Are
you
putting
pluses
on
things?
Okay,
all
right,
health
and
safety?
I
listed
number
three
and
I'll
go
step
by
step.
Then:
okay,
okay,
acted
liv,
active
living,
zero
community
health
plus
energy,
emergency
management
and
response,
plus
food
access
and
nutrition,
plus
health
systems,
plus
hazard
mitigation
plus
safe
communities,
zero,
okay,
number,
four
economy
and
jobs,
business
retention
and
development,
zero
gl,
green
market
development,
plus
local
economy,
zero
quality
jobs
and
living
wages,
zero
targeted
industry,
development
plus
workforce
readiness,
plus
built
environment.
G
G
So
if
I
look
at
arts
and
culture
the
way
they
defined
arts
and
culture
in
this
star
system-
and
I
said-
that's
not
our
charge-
I
rated
it
a
zero
or
there
is
another
committee
in
in
city
structure
that
is
principally
focused
on
arts
and
culture.
E
I
no
because
again
when
I,
when
I
told
you
that
it
was
like
overwhelming
to
me
in
looking
at
this,
I'm
like
I
don't
know
how
much
of
this
we
like.
I
I
appreciate
dr
robinson
having
gone
first
because
of
the
way
he
attacked
it
and
approached
it
hearing
hearing
him
say
that
would
give
me
more
guidance
to
what
how
I
would
have
done,
pluses
and
minuses
on
it,
but,
as
I
was
going
through
this,
I
would
every
one
of
them
I
looked
at
was.
These
are
all
really
important.
E
You
know
they're
they're,
all
really
important.
So
what
do
we
eliminate
from
our
plan?
What
do
we
put
in?
So
if
you
really
want
my
answer,
I
would
just
say
put
it
all
in
because
then
you're
covering
everything,
so
I
don't
think
it's
fair
for
me
to
give
a
good
assessment
of
pluses
and
minuses,
because
I
don't
necessarily
know
like
I
didn't
approach
it
in
a
way,
necessarily
that
it
was
going
to
be
applicable
to
our
plan.
L
E
And
and-
and
I
can
go
back
and
do
it-
have
it
prepared
for
next
time
coming
up
at
it
approaching
it
a
little
bit
differently
than
than
I
did
because,
like
I
said
it
was,
it
was
just
a.
I
couldn't
physically
narrow
that
down
for
myself
to
to
really
get
a
good
grasp
on
it.
So
I
didn't
feel
comfortable,
saying
no.
This
shouldn't
be
in
here.
This
should
be
in
here,
because
I
just
couldn't
wrap
my
head
around.
That.
E
B
C
We
go
down
the
road
we
could
handle
these
things
many
ways
just
because
we
include
something
I'll
say
doesn't
mean
we
have
to
as
a
committee
work
on
it
and
fix
it
or
whatever
we
could
say.
You
know
have
that
in
the
table
in
our
table,
and
it
says
something
like
not
being
addressed
at
this
time
or
being
worked
on
by
others.
Better
would
be
to
reference
who
is
working
on
it,
so
that
if
someone
referred
to
this
document,
they
could
be
satisfied
that
oh
yeah,
the
city,
really
is
comprehensive
in
how
they're
handling
sustainability.
C
B
H
I'll
go
because
it's
going
to
be
really
simple.
I
I
looked
at
it
differently
and,
like
karen,
I
felt
like
every
single
point
was
important.
I
would
say
that
there's
fewer
things
that
I
gave
a
zero
to
so
I'll,
just
tell
you
which
ones
I
gave
a
zero
to
be1.
H
The
arts
and
culture,
or
I
feel
like
it's
being
done,
but
doesn't
need
to
be
done
by
us,
but
we
can
interface
at
so
zero
historic
preservation.
I
mean
what
we're
doing
is
is
keeping
things
above
water,
hopefully
so
that
they
can
be
preserved.
H
But
you
know
that
is
the
historical
preservation
society,
so
I
gave
that
a
zero,
but
that's
all
because
I
looked
at
a
lot
of
it
and
I
felt
like
there's:
yes,
there's
a
lot
that
are
a
lot
of
points
that
are
being
done
by
other
groups,
but
we
will
be
able
to
interface
and
the
interface
is
what
we're
going
to
lend
a
green
color
to,
hopefully
all
of
it.
You
know
and
in
a
way,
even
if
we're
not
involved
directly
with
what's
happening.
K
So
there's
a
lot
of-
and
this
that's
why
this
was
really
hard
for
me,
because
I
have
so
I
looked
through
so
many
different
lenses
and-
and
I
was
kind
of
like
with
care-
and
it's
like.
Oh,
I
can't
leave
that
one
out,
because
I
can
see
how
that
would
fit,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
it
can't
be
we
interface
with
someone
else,
who's
doing
it.
This
was
more
objectively
thinking.
What
is
important
and
I
was
like
who
had
very
few
denise.
K
You
had
very
few
zeros
right,
that's
right,
yeah
yeah
and
I
did
as
well
ambient
noise
and
light,
although
personally,
I'm
interested
in
that.
But
it's
like
that.
That
was
a
zero
historic
preservation
that
was
a
zero
workforce.
Readiness.
K
K
Okay,
workforce
readiness
was
a
zero,
but
then
I
see
that
see
I
see
workforce
readiness
tied
in
to
how
how
how
mentally
stable
people
are
and
how
they've
processed
their
trauma
histories
and
how
they're
able
to
participate
in
community-
and
it's
really
hard
for
me
to
separate
that
to
to
say,
because
you
can
have
all
the
good
intentions
about
someone
participating
in
society,
but
unless
they
have
the.
K
Unless,
as
a
city,
we
have
the
infrastructure
to
support
their
well-being
and
mental
wellness
and
their
affordable
housing
and
all
that
they'll
never
get
there
or
they'll
get
there
and
it
will
not
be
successful.
So
this
was
very
difficult
for
me.
So
you
know
the
the
historic
did.
I
say:
historic
preservation,
workforce
readiness,
hazard
mitigation.
K
Good
governance,
you
know,
I
mean
just
very
well:
good
governance
was
one
of
the
the
the
end
ones,
but
I
think
that
this
is
where
it
got
very
mentally
confusing
for
me
because
of
what
I
tried
to
just
explain
to
you
guys,
but
the
pluses
were,
for
example,
the
natural
systems
that
whole
all
of
those
were
pluses,
the
equity
and
empowerment.
All
of
those
were
pluses,
but
not
necessarily
because
that's
our
purview,
that's
our
task
or
that's
our.
K
G
G
G
We
know
that
if
we
continue
burning
fossil
fuels
as
we
are
right
now
and
I'm
sorry
to
sound
preachy,
but
I
got
to
get
this
off
my
chest
because
we
got
to
think
in
the
future.
That's
our
job
within
30
years,
we're
going
to
have
four
months
out
of
the
year
when
the
heat
index
is
100
degrees,
fahrenheit
or
higher,
and
when
the
in
almost
three
months
out
of
the
year
when
the
heat
index
is
going
to
be
105,
fahrenheit
or
higher,
you.
G
At
any
of
the
sustainability
plants
that
we've
looked
at
or
any
others
in
the
state
of
florida,
and
they
all
exhort
their
citizens
to
walk
more
and
ride
their
bikes
who's
going
to
do
that
when
the
heat
index
is
105.
G
I
it
seems
to
me
that
we
have
a
responsibility
to
look
down
the
road
and
to
in
to
help
educate
this
community
to
look
down
the
road
at.
What's
coming
just
from
climate
change
alone,
it's
going
to
devastate
people's
lives,
not
that
these
other
things
aren't
important.
But
if
we
just
look
at
what
climate
change
as
denise
said,
two
feet:
sea
level
rise.
That's
that's
conservative!
G
If
we
just
look
at
climate
change
alone,
we're
looking
at
very
significant
impacts
on
our
community
built
in
if
we
don't
burn
another
hunk
of
coal
forever
tomorrow,
we're
still
looking
at
two
feet
of
sea
level
rise
by
the
end
of
the
century.
But
if
we
look
30
years
down
the
road
as
sarasota
did
in
their
plan.
G
K
Paul
will
take,
and
I
I
appreciate
you
you're
chiming
in
with
that,
because
that's
like
the
the
reality
check
of
this
whole
thing.
It's
it's
very
easy
for
me
to
think
bigger
and
bigger,
and,
but
I
think
focus
is
very
important,
but
I
also
see
that
mental
wellness
is
hand
in
hand
with
this.
That
is,
as
as
climate
is
more
severe
and
as
there
are
more
challenges
that
community
mental
health
is
going
to
be
much
more
difficult
to
achieve,
and
that
that
also
ties
into
everything
else.
K
You
know
the
the
devastating
fires
in
california.
People
moved
back
after
the
campfire
people
are
trying
to
build
better.
So
it's
not
that
people
are
going
to
take
up
their
sticks
and
leave.
People
will
want
to
stay,
especially
in
tarpon,
where
there's
generations
of
folks
living
here,
but
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
provide
a
healthy
and
holistic
environment
in
all
the
ways
that
we've
been
talking
about.
In
my
opinion,
but.
G
My
my
cousin
by
marriage,
alexandra
was
driven
out
of
her
home
in
saint
helena
last
year.
She
was
driven
out
her
home
in
saint
helena
this
year
and
she
and
her
family
still
can't
go
back.
G
The
reality
is
robin
that
things
have
changed
and
there
are
people
in
california,
my
sister,
who
runs
a
vineyard
and
a
ranch
and
a
winery
in
paso
robles
and
the
the
reality
is
is,
is
that
california
may
not
be
a
livable
place
anymore.
She
doesn't
want
to
accept
it.
Alexander
doesn't
want
to
accept
it.
Nobody
wants
to
accept
it.
California
has
been
the
golden
place,
but
the
world
has
moved
on
and
not
in
a
good
way:
mental
health
yeah.
G
We
are
going
to
have
to
figure
out
how
we
anticipate
the
mental
health
needs
of
the
community,
because
you
know
people
look
at
hurricanes,
we
could
get
wallop
tomorrow.
We
don't
know
people
look
at
hurricanes
that
as
what
the
immediate
damage
people
are
killed,
they're
drowned.
You
know
they're
crushed
by
trees.
They
are
electrocuted
by
falling
wires,
but
that's
not
everything
that
happens
after
a
disaster
like
you
know
an
eta
or
an
iota
or
anything.
You
know
laura,
my
goodness
cat4
there
are
long-term
changes,
cholera
and
other
diseases.
G
Mental
health
changes
are
chronic
and
they
don't
just
impact
old
people.
They
impact
children
terribly
and
we
have
to
anticipate
the
increased
needs
of
mental
health
that
our
community
is
going
to
need
because
these
things
are
coming
and
just
like
california,
we
can.
We
can
pretend
that
that
sea
level
is
not
going
to
rise
like
they
can
pretend
that,
oh
maybe
next
year
we
won't
have
fires
again,
but
that's
a
fantasy.
B
I
want
to
in
the
interest
of
time
we've
got
12
minutes
until
the
meeting
is
supposed
to
go
to
so
I
would
like
to
try
to
get
us
back.
I
mean
I
fully
appreciate
what
you're
saying
and
that
your
interest
is
focusing
on
the
more
tangible
climate
change.
B
I
totally
hear
that
and
that's
reflected
in
the
way
that
I
kind
of
filled
this
form
out.
I
I
gave
everything
a
plus
the
the
example
that
I
gave
wasn't
my
my
real
thoughts.
B
I
just
kind
of
threw
some
things
on
there,
but
but
I
did
give
like
plus
plus
pluses
to
a
lot
of
the
things
in
the
climate
and
energy,
because
I
just
see
that
as
things
that
we
have
baseline
data,
for
we
can
take
action
on
immediately
and
and
that
are
urgent,
short-term
goals
that
this
the
city
needs
to
be
looking
at.
B
But
I
still
think
that
there's
value
in
including
all
of
these
other
aspects,
because
they
all
fold
into
sustainability,
looking
city-wide,
but
I
agree
and
appreciate
fully
understand
that
there's
limited
resources
there's
finite
time.
We
need
to
get
this
done.
B
Tons
of
ticking
the
sea
levels
are
rising.
So
you
know
understanding
and
agreeing
with
you
the
about
the
the
necessity
to
focus
on
specific
things
that
are
more
within
kind
of
the
warehouse
are
directly
related
to
climate
change,
so
taylor,
we
have
not
heard
from
you
I'd
like
to
give
you
the
opportunity
to
share.
D
Your
thoughts,
I
basically
feel
like
a
little
bit
of
mix
of
what
everyone
said
like
it
all
looks
important.
The
only
one
I
gave
a
zero
was
the
noise
and
ambient
light,
but
I
wish
I
would
have
gone
by
the
way
that
paul
did
it,
which
is
kind
of
like
you
know,
talking
about
it
now.
It's
like
there's,
definitely
like
city
departments.
Doing
these
different
things,
maybe,
like
the
other
paul
said,
we
could
even
mention
that
this
department's
doing
it
but
put
in
the
plan
that
way.
D
B
And
I
think
that
you
know
this
was
a
great
exercise
in
terms
of
just
kind
of
flushing
out
ideas
and
thoughts
and
how
we
can
move
forward
sounds
like
we
have
a
plan
now
to
be
engaging
with
city
staff
and
then,
hopefully,
that
will
result
in
a
deeper
way
to
engage
with
the
community
and
make
sure
that
we're
all
kind
of
in
alignment
with
where
we
want
to
go.
So
we
can
get
this
plan
complete.
B
So
I
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
next
topic
of
discussion,
which
is
community
engagement
and
a
path
moving
forward.
So
we
had
talked
about
earth
day
and
special
events
honestly
with
kovid
the
way
that
it
is
right
now.
I
feel
like
there's
so
many
question
marks
that
we
just
need
to
put
a
virtual
question
mark
on
on
that
and
and
hope
that
the
path
moving
forward
can
be
in
person
at
some
point.
B
But
if
not
with
a
more
clear
framework,
we
can,
even
if
we
have
to
have
those
engagement
meetings,
virtually
that
we
can
do
that
in
an
organized
way
and
be
able
to
to
get
what
we
need
from
community
feedback.
Any
thoughts
on
that.
H
I
think
that
it's
possible
to
be
doing
something
in
writing.
I
don't
know
whether
we
could
talk
to
editor
of
the
beacon,
or
you
know
and
and
just
kind
of
agree
that
we
can
just
put
topics
out.
They
don't
have
to
be
real
long,
long
or
involved,
but
just
to
you
know
as
a
conversation
starter
in
writing,
maybe
we
can
get
some
feedback
from
people
via
newspapers.
H
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
it
if
it
might
be
helpful
to
talk
to
somebody
at
one
of
the
local
papers
and
and
ask-
and
I
would
be
willing
to
do
that
and
just
see
whether
there's
any
forum
for
that
kind
of
community
engagement
and
discussion
until
covet
is
over.
You
know
so
it'd
be
kind
of
like.
Oh
here's,
a
here's,
a
topic
of
discussion.
What
are
your
thoughts
on
this?
H
H
I'm
just
thinking
that
the
written
word
and
the
newspapers
are
probably
the
only
way
at
this
moment
that
we
can
look
at
doing
something
and,
and
it
would
be
awesome
to
just
collaborate
a
little
bit
with
one
of
the
very
locales
paper
that
we
have
and
see
whether
they
have
ever
done.
Anything
like
that
kind
of
a
public
service
column
for
discussion.
B
What
do
you
think
denise
of
the
idea
of
potentially
asking
local
people
to
do
a
story
on
this
star
framework
and
what
we're
doing
and
kind
of
introduce
just
the.
I
H
B
Denise,
would
you
mind
taking
that
on
then
as
a
task,
and
then
you
can
work
with
paul
smith
to
to
kind
of
talk
that
through
and
and
then
yeah.
I
L
Mind
I
was
actually
just
going
to
let
you
know
as
well
that
I
reached
out
to
recreation.
They
typically
have
an
eco-fest
back-to-school
bash
and
for
2021
the
date
is
not
solidified,
but
they're
most
likely
going
to
do
it
in
september.
They
could
do
the
last
week
in
august
as
well,
if
needed
now.
Also
shannon
has
had
a
recommendation
about
those
mangroves
as
giveaways
during
eco-fest.
L
B
K
I
know
that
the
chamber
is
planning
on
having
the
art
festival
in
in
april
or
in
whatever
it
is
march
or
april.
It's.
K
In
march-
and
that
might
be
some
a
way
that
we
can
a
piece
for
tarpon
had
some
tables
when
you
go
down
the
main
steps
there
at
the
end
of
tarpon
avenue
they,
let
us
put
out
some
tables
there,
where
we
could
do.
In
other
words,
we
could
have
a
presence
there,
not
necessarily
in
the
mix,
but
somewhere
there,
for
information
or
for
giveaways
or
something.
K
B
So
I
guess
that
would
be
something
we
would
need
to
ask
if
we
could
have
a
booth,
essentially
right
as
a
city
committee.
A
B
D
D
B
I
think
that
an
idea
that
we
can
maybe
pull
into
is
maybe
using
the
city's
facebook
page
to
promote
if
we
have
like
an
upcoming
event
or
when
we
have
those
when
we
finally
do
have
the
meetings
with
the
public
to
come,
give
feedback.
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
way
to
engage,
so
we
need
to
know
that
you
back
off
them.
K
I'd
be
willing
to.
I
have
a
a
couple
of
pages
and
you're
you're
right.
It's
really
hard
to
keep
them
fresh
and,
and
sometimes,
if
you
ask,
for
feedback
on
those
people,
get
kind
of
get
on
a
tangent
or
kind
of
go
off
in
their
own
direction,
or
something
that
that's
at
the
top
of
their
list.
But
peace
for
tarpon
would
be
happy
to
to
support
whatever
this
committee
does
by
posting
on
there,
and
also
I
love
tarpon
springs
facebook.
B
Page,
I
think
this
is
all
part
of
it
right
is,
is
building
those
relationships
with
organizations
and
other
you
know,
non-profits
and
groups
in
the
city
so
that
we
are
amplifying
what
we're
doing
with
everybody
else's
efforts
as
well.
So
I,
like
I,
like
the
direction
we're
going
with
that.
B
Okay,
I'm
gonna
move
us
along
then
to
were
there
any
follow-up
comments
or
actually
what
time
is
it
it's
eight
o'clock,
so
I
do
need
a
motion
to
carry
us
past.
The
eight
o'clock
mark.
B
All
in
favor,
aye,
okay,
so
item
number
five
is
a
discussion
on
follow-up
from
our
last
meeting
with
kevin
powell
from
the
building's
development
director.
Where
this
does
did
anyone
have
any
questions
that
came
up
in
the
month.
B
Okay,
I
think
that
I've
got
some
questions,
but
I
think
that,
as
we
start
working
on
the
plan-
and
we
have
those
meetings
with
city
staff,
that
may
be
a
better
place
to
ask
some
of
those
questions,
and
I
think
that
you
know
we're
going
to
have
that
opportunity
to
have
this
kind
of
ongoing
conversations
with
the
folks
that
we've
already
had
give
us
presentations.
B
C
C
So
there
is
a
period
of
time
here
where
we've
got
sort
of
a
gap,
and
one
thing
I've
talked
to
the
city
manager
about
is.
We
could
put
together
a
request
in
the
meantime
for
the
mayor
to
utilize,
to
bring
to
state
and
federal
leadership
for
funding
consideration,
some
things
that
we
already
know.
We
need
to
do
like
a
urban
tree
canopy
plan.
C
C
G
A
list
by
month
of
flooding
and
it
it
it
was
for
an
entire
year
and
it
it
pertained
to
the
places
or
the
times
of
during
a
month
and
times
of
day
when
city
employees
put
warning
cones
or
other
devices
out
to
to
alert
motorists
in
the
city
to
water
in
the
street,
the
of
the
12
pages
that
I've
got
the
first
one
says:
tarpon
springs
anclote,
river
january
2020..
C
So
it's
sort
of
a
rough
initial
measure
of
our
problem
areas,
but
I
think
we
need
to
go
further
than
that
with
our
assessment
of
vulnerability.
We
need
to
see
just
what
our
you
know
quantify
it.
What
are
those
elevations
where
what
kind
of
sea
level
rise
implications?
Do
we
have
what
sort
of
storm
surges
do
we
have
and
then,
from
that?
What's
our
action
plan?
What
kinds
of
things
let's
break
this
up
into
geometric.
A
C
And
assign
actions
to
each
one
of
those
areas
and
ultimately,
a
funding
plan
to
to
take
action
and
start
solving
those
problems.
G
C
I
didn't
see
one,
but
I
think
the
sooner
we
get
him
something
to
start
working
with
understanding
that
it
wouldn't
be
our
last
submittal
for
him
to
consider,
but
something
more
in
the
near
term.
Then,
as
we
develop
our
studies
and
plans
and
have
specifics,
we
would
present
that,
in
my
experience
in
grants,
the
more
you
have
a
plan
together,
a
study,
a
priority,
the
better
your
requests
are
received
because
it's
a
systematic
type
of
approach,
one
that
most
agencies
can
identify
with.
C
G
A
B
And
I
would
echo
the
what
you
said
with
the
greenhouse
gas
inventory
any
other.
You
know
resources
that
we
need
to
speed
that
assessment
up,
so
that
we
can
have
that
baseline
data
to
to
work
into
the
plan
and
the
vulnerability
assessment.
It's
not
just
looking
at
specific
areas
in
town
right,
it's
looking
at
the
city
comprehensively,
it's
my
understanding.
B
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
that
data
to
help
us
understand
where
to
go
next,
got
it
going
on
a
diet.
You
need
to
jump
on
the
scale
see
where
you're
at.
B
B
Wonderful,
thank
you
all
right.
Moving
along
items
for
our
next
month's
agenda.
I
would
like
to
see
added
to
the
agenda.
I
do
believe
we've
got
another
presentation
from
city
staff
and
I
think
we're
looking
at
either
cultural
services
or
fleet,
perhaps
so
one
of
those
lovely
folks
and
then
also
an
update
on
the
comp
plan.
B
I
know
that
when
renee
vincent
spoke
with
us
about
wanting
to
incorporate
some
of
the
upcoming
comp
plan
into
what
we're
doing
with
sustainability,
if
we
could
get
a
better
understanding
of
of
the
timeline
on
that
and
if
there's
any
updates,
that
would
be
relevant.
G
Dory,
why
not
look
at
flooding
in
various
parts
of
the
city?
If
there's
someone
in
public
works?
Who
can
speak
to
this
question
of
the
areas
of
the
city
that
need
to
for
to
be
focused
on
regarding
flooding?
I
I
have
another
question
too.
G
It
would
be
nice
if
we
have
that
if
that
data
is
available
and
it
can
be
presented
to
look
at
that.
H
And
in
conjunction
with
the
flooding,
is
there
a
list
of
projects
that
are
being
worked
on
right
now,
like?
I
know
that
there
there
is
a
project
that
is
being
worked
on
at
the
end
of
the
street
that
I
live
on
a
flood
pond.
H
That's,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
see
the
list
of
other
projects
that
are
being
worked
on
currently
to
help
with
areas
that
are
known
to
have
standing
water
on
the
road
for
extended
periods.
B
And
then
I
I
would
like
to
if
there's
time
so
maybe
add
it
towards
the
bottom
as
another
kind
of
homework
assignment
start
looking
through
and
thinking
of,
instead
of
just
the
planning
that
we're
doing
start
thinking
of
actions
that
we
can
start
taking
like,
for
example,
working
on
that
green
business
award
and
and
seeing
if
anybody
would
like
to
like
raise
their
hand
and
start
tackling
that
or
any
other
interim
actions
that
you
think
would
not
require
a
ton
of
resources,
but
that
you
feel
personally
moved
to
take
action
on,
and
so,
if
you
guys
would
be
thinking
about
that
throughout
the
month
and
then
be
prepared.
B
If
there's
anything
that
you
want
to
share
with
the
group.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
conversation
and
I
think
that
that's
quite
a
laundry
list
for
for
an
agenda
for
next
month,
so
we'll
stop
there,
and
I
would
like
to
move
along
then
to
our
public
comments.
So
I
see
someone
in
the
audience.
Would
you
like
to
come.
M
M
Orion
waste
solutions
is
headquartered
as
well
at
that
same
address
in
clearwater,
I'm
the
general
manager
of
the
local
operating
division
and
we
are
a
full-service,
solid
waste
recycling,
environmental
services
company.
We
are
very
much
interested.
My
team
is
very
much
interested
in
partnering
with
communities,
and
environmental
sustainability
is
one
thing
that
we
are
very
much
in
tune
with
and
to
some
degree
experts
at
in
our
field.
So
my
team
is
very
energetic.
We
are
managed
by
individuals
with.
L
M
Many
many
years
I've
got
about
40
years
of
experience
in
environmental
services,
so
I
was
at
the
commission
meeting.
I
think
it
was
yesterday
just
the
other
night
to
again
introduce
our
company
to
the
the
the
commission,
the
mayor
and
vice
mayor,
and
wanted
to
come
this
evening,
just
just
to
offer
our
services
and
you
use
the
term
partner
earlier
in
the
meeting.
M
Orion
way
solutions
would
love
to
partner
with
tarpon
and
your
committee
to
do
what
we
can
do
to
help
a
lot
of
that
might
come
in
the
way
of
education.
It
can
come
in.
The
way
of
you
know
providing
resources
that
we
have
for
events.
When
we
get
out
of
this
covent
crisis,
we
can
do
a
lot
of
things
for
the
community
to
bring
awareness
to
recycling
and
environmental
sustainability.
M
We
have
operations
in
seven
states
and
serve
thousands
of
customers,
so
we've
got
some
resources
and
certainly
expertise
that
I
think,
might
be
able
to
assist
the
community.
So
the
purpose
for
me
tonight
is
really
to
introduce
myself
and
to
introduce
orion
waste
solutions,
and
I
will
leave.
I
can
leave
right
on
this
podium
some
business
cards
that
have
my
contact
information.
M
If
we
can
be
of
service,
please
call
upon
us
we'd
love
to
partner
and
bring
our
expertise
and
help
where
we
can
so
that
that
is
my
introduction
speech,
and
I
do
appreciate
you
guys
allowing
me
to
come
to
the
meeting
tonight.
B
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
come
and
and
speak
with
us.
It's
very
much
appreciated
and
yeah.
D
B
Mean
we
don't
have
anyone
else
physically
here
in
the
public,
do
we
have
anyone?
That's
joined
us
via
zoom.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
staff
comments,
and
I
just
wanna
before
I
forget
there
was
the
email
from
the
woman
from
ickley
that
came
this
afternoon,
that
we
didn't
have
a
chance
to
talk
about.
So,
if
you
could,
if
you,
I
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot
too
much,
but.
C
No
I'd
be
happy
to
mention,
so
we
were
invited
to
be
possibly
a
partner
with
a
another
coastline
assessment
and
at
first
I
was
hesitant
to
say
yes,
let's
do
this,
because
we
just
put
a
grant
in
for
the
state,
but
I
think
these
things
can
actually
work
together
and
if
it
doubles
our
chances
of
getting
some
assistance,
then
that
would
be
great.
C
But
this
would
be
a
partnership
with
the
noaa
and
they're
going
to
do
some
coastal
modeling
and
we've
been
asked
if
we'd
be
interested
in
putting
our
city
in
as
one
that's
interested
in
partnering
if
they
get
this
noaa
grant.
So
that's
something
that
we've
yes
indicated.
We
are
interested
in
and
we
would
find
out
about
that.
I
think
sometime
before
april,
so
I
will
follow
up
with
any
more
news
on.
A
L
I
also
actually
just
wanted
to
circle
back
to
those
mangroves
just
a
little
bit
more
detail,
so
I
will
let
you
know
that
we
are
interested
in
moving
forward
and
purchasing
those,
but
just
so
you
guys
know.
Typically,
she
had
mentioned
that
she
ordered
those
45
days
prior
to
the
event,
but
there's
also
a
couple
questions
that
I
was
looking
at
in
my
emails
as
well
that
we'll
have
to
answer
in
the
meantime.
So
as
we
progress
forward,
I
will
keep
you
guys
updated
on
that.
I
L
Yeah,
so
I
was
just
letting
everyone
know
that
I
was
going
to
speak
with
shannon
and
let
her
know
that
you
guys
are
interested
in
moving
forward
with
those
mangroves.
But
I
did
want
to
let
you
know
since
out
to
2021
that
she
typically
orders
her
the
giveaways
45
days
prior
to
the
event,
and
there
were
a
couple
questions
as
well
that
we're
going
to
have
to
follow
up
on
in
the
meantime.
So
I
will
let
you
guys
know
as
we
progress
forward.
C
I
just
wanted
to
let
the
committee
know
that
there's
an
interest
by
members
of
the
commission
and
having
a
workshop
on
the
seawall
master
plan.
I
also
heard
interest
in
a
workshop
on
homelessness,
and
I
wanted
the
committee
to
know
that
that
interest
is
there
and
I
encourage
you
to
monitor
upcoming
agendas.
This
is
something
that
would
probably
happen
after
the
first
of
the
year.
B
C
B
Okay
committee
comments.
G
Dory
I've
had
some
conversations
with
father
athanasius
harris
who's,
the
dean
of
saint
nicholas
cathedral.
I
approached
him
to
be
a
champion
in
our
community
outreach
program
and
he
came
back
with
a
counter
proposal.
He
said,
would
your
committee
be
interested
in
co-sponsoring
a
symposium?
G
It
would
be
something
like
climate
change
and
god's
creation
and
he
envisioned
having
a
member
of
the
clergy,
speak
about
the
moral
aspects
having
a
scientist
speak
about
the
scientific
aspects
having
a
business
person's
etc,
and
I'm
just
getting
back
to
the
committee
to
ask:
are
we,
as
a
committee
interested
in
co-sponsoring
something
like
that?
Do
we
have
the
where,
if
we're
interested,
do
we
have
the
wherewithal
to
help
co-sponsor?
G
I
will
tell
you
that
I've
thought
quite
a
bit
about
this
and
I
I
think
we
should
have.
If
we
do
this,
we
should
have
speakers
that
have
a
national
reputation.
We
should
I'm
thinking
of
someone
like
dr
catherine,
hey
ho,
who
is
both
a
climate
scientist
and
an
evangelical
christian
she's
speaking
tomorrow
at
well.
You
could
look
her
up
on
ted
talk.
She
has
several
if
you
want
to
know
more
about
him,
and
I
was
thinking
cloth
in
addition
to
father
athanasius.
G
However,
I
understand
that
there's
a
lockdown
in
the
uk-
he
probably
could
not
get
back
this
year
for
epiphany,
but
the
father
garros
wanted
to
do
this
as
part
of
epiphany
week
an
interesting,
an
interesting
proposal.
I
thought-
but
I
just
getting
back
to
the
committee
about
this
idea.
D
Yeah,
I'm
a
christian,
and
you
know
it
is
god's
creation,
and
I
need
to
look
back
and
I
could
probably
find
specific
lines
like
kind
of
shepherd.
The
creation,
but
you
know
I
it
seems
like
you're,
trying
to
find
a
speaker
who's
a
little
more
well-known
and
more
well-versed
in
both
aspects.
So
I,
like
the
thought
of
it,
though
what
was
the
guy's
name,
though,
that
you
told
us
to
look
at
the
ted
talk
on.
G
Paul
catherine,
hey
ho
h-a-y-h-o-e.
H
I
think
the
idea
of
of
this
kind
of
panel
with
recognized
speakers
would
be
very
exciting.
I
you
know
I
had
attended
events
like
this.
When
I
lived
in
seattle,
I
heard
david,
I'm
spacing
his
name
out
diana
macy,
who
is
a
scholar
of
buddhism
and
general
systems,
theory
and
deep
ecology.
She
spoke
with
david
corwin,
who
wrote
when
corporations
ruled
the
world
and
bandana
sheba.
H
There
have
been.
You
know
a
lot
of
panels
that
I've
gone
to
in
the
past.
That
really
were
a
broad
range
of
ideas
that
are
out
there
supporting
our
stewardship
of
creation,
and
I
think
it's
a
it's
an
exciting
concept.
G
G
Does
the
rest
of
the
committee
think
about
this
as
as
something
we
could
co-sponsor.
B
Is
there
I
guess
legally,
I
I
would
wanna.
Is
there
like
an
issue
with
like
like
partnering
or
participating
with
as
a
city
with
a
faith?
You
know
what
I
mean
like.
I
know
that
there's
been
other
things
in
the
past,
where,
like
the
the
one
time
that
I
believe
you
spoke
paul,
it
was
at
one
of
the
churches,
but
I
don't
know
that
it
was
faith-based.
So
I
don't
I
just
that's
where
my
rub
is.
I
just
wouldn't
want
to
get
the
city
in
trouble.
C
C
A
G
K
And
paul
my
feedback
is
I
like
the
idea
of
community
engagement,
and
I
know
people
of
faith.
This
would
be
a
way
to
kind
of
bridge
that
that
connection
and
possibly
build
connections
and
build
interest
with
the
work
we're
doing
how
I
would
see
that
is
the
church,
sponsor
it
and
invite
us
to
participate
in
some
specific
way
and
rather
than
co
co-guide
the
process.
K
In
other
words,
let
them
take
the
lead,
because
I
don't
know
what
everyone's
level
of
faith
or
engagement
is
here
for
the
whole
committee
to
just
be
equal
partners.
But
I
think
an
engagement
in
the
sense
of
community
outreach
would
be
wonderful.
I
also
would
like
to
see
more
diversity,
rather
than
greek,
orthodox
or
christian,
and
to
things
like
that,
like
a
buddhist
or
as
as
denise
mentioned,
something
that
might
also
draw
in
other
people
of
of
different
types
of
faith
that
my
my
might
build
our
audience.
G
We
are
epiphany
city
and,
of
course,
epiphany
is
the
really
an
orthodox
celebration,
and
so
it's
it's
logical
that
he
suggested
it
with
epiphany
weak
when
there
will
be.
You
know,
a
huge
influx
of
people
from
the
orthodox
faith.
G
I
I
agree
with
you.
Diversity
is
always
you
know
in
when
in
doubt
always
include,
but
I
I
think
he's
suggesting
it
to
be
part
of
epiphany
week,
which
will
bring
a
lot
of
people
from
the
faith
to
tarpon
springs.
K
B
Thank
you
paul
yeah.
I.
I
definitely
think
that
all
of
these
types
of
different
ways
to
engage
the
community
are
welcome
and
and
worthy
of
conversation
and
just
have
to
kind
of
work
through
how
how
you
know
we're
able
to
engage
where
we
can.
B
So
I
would
be
curious
to
to
hear
back
as
well,
but
I
I
think,
maybe
along
the
lines
of
what
was
suggested,
that
they
kind
of
run
the
train
and
we
have
a
an
ability
to
kind
of
plug
in
a
little
bit
and
just
explain
what
we're
what
we're
working
on
and
how
that
ties
together
with
someone.
What
the
other
speakers
are
would
be
talking
about
something
like
that
all
right
there
is,
I
forgot
to
mention,
and
I
know
I'm
going
out
of
order.
B
B
I
can't
even
speak
correctly,
but
if
we
were
to
try
to
schedule
some
things
with
staff,
I
know
the
reason
that
we
have
our
meetings,
always
in
the
evening,
was
to
incorporate
people
that
their
work
schedules,
but
I
also
want
to
be
you
know,
looking
at
staff
schedules
as
well,
so
asking
a
whole
bunch
of
staff
three
different
times
to
come
in
the
evening.
B
K
B
C
B
Then,
if
we
could
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
at
8,
30.
B
Do
you
guys
have
any
mulberry
saplings.