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A
Committee
and
the
reduced
sustainability
committee
for
tonight
can
we
have
a
roll
call
yes
for
this
evening.
Thank
you.
D
E
A
And
last
month
we
did
hear
from
Dory
that
she
was
not
going
to
be
here
tonight.
So
could
we
have
a
motion
to
excuse
her
absence
for
this
evening?.
A
All
in
favor,
aye
and
I
also
heard
from
Karen
Gallagher
that
she
was
unable
to
be
here
because
she's
out
of
town
and
can
we
have
a
motion
to
excuse
her
absence.
Please
I.
A
A
So
we
don't
appear
to
have
public
comments
at
this
point
and
we're
not
on
any
virtual
experience
that
would
permit
that,
but
we'll
just
move
on.
Okay,
the
next
discussion
on
water
supply
presentation.
A
D
C
Thank
you
for
having
us
again
here
today:
I'm
Thomas,
Geiger
I'm,
the
assistant
director
for
public
services
in
the
Public
Services
Department,
includes
the
water
and
wastewater
utilities,
and
I
also
have
Daryl
vasey,
who
is
our
water
division
manager
here
who'll
be
joining
us
for
part
of
the
presentation
before
we
get
started.
We
have
any
questions.
C
Okay,
all
right!
So
today
we're
going
to
be
talking
a
little
bit
about
our
water
supply
in
Tarpon,
Springs
and
kind
of
a
little
bit
more
broadly
about
the
history
of
water
supply
here
and
our
regional
water
issues
in
the
Tampa
Bay
Region.
For
those
of
you
who
don't
know
before
my
time
here,
I
worked
for
a
number
of
years
at
the
state's
Water
Management
District.
So
I
had
a
little
bit
of
a
background
in
Regional
water
supply
planning
and
Regional
issues,
and
things
like
that.
C
C
All
right,
so
we
have
two
primary
sources
of
water
in
our
city,
so
most
folks
want
to
know.
Where
does
our
water
come
from
the
two
sources
of
water
that
we
have?
We
have
fresh
groundwater
Wells
which
are
kind
of
our
historic
water
supply.
Those
tend
to
go.
Those
Wells
go
back.
C
You
know
well
into
the
20th
century
that
feels
a
little
weird
to
say,
but
they're
some
one
of
our
wells
dates
actually
to
the
early
1900s,
and
then
we
have
our
more
modern,
more
recent
brackish
groundwater
Supply,
which
is
salty
water
from
the
upper
Florida
and
aquifer
that
we
put
through
our
reverse
osmosis
water
treatment
facility,
which
you
can
see
right
there
and
this
all
that
stainless
steel,
piping
and
panels
and
stuff,
like
that.
That's
one
of
our
brackish
water
wells.
C
C
Since
then,
there's
been
a
number
of
attempts
to
develop
additional
water
supply
tarpon's,
always
been
relatively
dependent
on
outside
water
supply,
for
its
growth
and
to
service
to
meet
its
needs.
So
in
the
early
in
the
20s
there
was
a
surface
water
source
on
Lake
Tarpon
that
was
discontinued
relatively
quickly
in
the
late
70s
there
was
a
they
did,
a
study
to
try
and
look
and
look
at
the
hydrogeology
to
see
whether
sorts
of
Water
Supplies
might
be
Val
might
be
viable
by
the
80s.
They
started
on
additional
well
field
design.
C
We
added
some
wells
over
the
over
a
number
of
years
and
we
we
sort
of
slowly
built
out
over
the
80s
up
into
the
2000s,
a
number
of
localized,
relatively
shallow
freshwater
Wells,
to
supplement
our
water.
But
historically
most
of
our
water
came
from
Pinellas
County.
We
were
importing
water
at
a
wholesale
rate
from
the
county
regional
water
system,
and
there
was
a
number
of
regional
challenges
with
water
supply
throughout
the
Tampa
Bay
Region,
going
all
the
way
back
to
the
80s
and
becoming
particularly
acute
in
the
90s
and
early
2000s.
C
There
was
historically
a
very
high
over-reliance
on
cheap,
fresh
groundwater
throughout
the
Tampa
Bay
Region
from
the
upper
Florida
aquifer
and
because
of
our
unique
hydrogeology.
Here
we
have
a
very
car
stick
environment,
which
means
we
have
a
lot
of
limestone
and
a
lot
of
very
close
interconnectivity
hydrogeologically
between
our
groundwater
supplies
and
our
surface
water
resources
like
lakes
and
springs
and
rivers
they're.
All
a
lot
of
those
are
spring
fed.
Yes,.
C
We'd,
we
don't
have
anything
I
believe
that
would
be
something
like
a
bottled
water
facility
I
mean
in
our
town.
The
closest
thing
we
have
to
that
is:
there's
a
small
service
area.
That's
also
just
another
Public
Access
service
area
kind
of
north
of
in
the
Pasco
County
that
we
export
a
small
quantity
of
water
to
for
like
Neighborhood
use
and
stuff
like
that.
But
it's
all
residents,
so
we
we
do
have
one
Wholesale
customer,
but
they're,
a
small
local
utility
run
by
a
semi-public
state
agent
agency
called
fgua
yeah.
A
I
guess
I'm
thinking
more
regionally,
because
the
water
in
the
Florida
aquifer
is,
you
know,
doesn't
have
borders,
no
so
I
mean
and,
and
anybody
that's
buying
it
would
be
depleting
the
resource
for
even
our
community
I'm.
Just
I'm
just
curious.
If
we
know
I.
A
No,
not
Tarpon
Springs,
specifically,
but
throughout
the
state.
Do
you
know
of
sources,
corporations
that
might
be
buying
water
that
might
be
creating
depletion,
because
this
has
happened
in
other
places
in
the
world?
Yes,.
C
I,
don't
have
those
numbers
readily
available,
but
there's
a
lot
of
folks
in
throughout
Florida.
You
know,
ground
waters
are
Supply
throughout
the
vast
majority
of
the
whole
state,
and
you
know
there
are
some
localized
areas
like
City
of
Tampa
has
surface
water
supply
off
the
Hillsborough
River
and
some
other
areas,
but
our
water
use
mix
throughout
the
state
is
a
mix
of
public
Supply
use.
You
know
which
serves
residences
but
also
Commerce,
like
breweries
and
all
sorts
of
other
beneficial
activities
and.
B
C
Know,
food
processing
facilities
and
all
those
sorts
of
things,
and
there
are
self-supplied
in
Industrial
and
Commercial
entities
that
use
water
throughout
the
state
and
some
of
those
use
water
from
the
upper
Florida
and
aquifer
like.
If
you
go
up
in
North
Florida,
we
have
some
Legacy
heavy
industry
like
paper
mills
and
large
industrial
users,
and
things
like
that
yeah
we
do
have
a
little
bit
of
bottled
water
use
throughout
the
state.
But
from
what
I
recall-
and
you
know-
I-
don't
have
those
numbers
readily
available.
C
No
worries
and
yeah
so
historically,
especially
in
our
local
area,
the
upper
Florida
aquifer,
extends
all
the
way
up
into
South
Carolina,
it's
a
big
aquifer
system
and
but
locally
it
was
quite
over
pumped.
You
know
there
was
more
use
than
was.
You
know,
you
know
replenishable
from
local
recharge
and
it
was
causing
degradation
to
local
Water
Resources.
So
here
you
can
see
that
top
left
photo.
C
That's
supposed
to
be
a
creek
that
bottom
left
photo
is
supposed
to
be
a
lake,
and
you
can
see:
there's
no
water
in
them,
which
is
not
ideal,
not
good
for
the
Water
Resources,
not
good
for
the
environment,
not
good
for
wildlife.
C
It
leads
to
changes
in
habitat
types
over
time
and
you
also
started
to
have
the
phenomena
that
you
see,
sometimes
in
other
states
where
you
were
starting
to
get
competition
for
water.
So
we
have
lots
of
different
entities
with
well
fields
near
each
other
that
all
we're
trying
to
serve
their
own
public
communities
and
there's
limited
Supply.
So
that
creates
this
sort
of
friction
and
competition.
Yes,
so.
D
C
We
have
a
brackish
water.
Well,
yes,
so
in
the
late
80s,
through
2007,
Swift
mod,
the
local
Water
Management
entity,
the
southwest
Florida
Water
Management
District
established
the
northern
Tampa
Bay
Water
East
caution
area,
which
effectively
means
they're
publicly
declaring
that
there's
insufficient
Water
Resources
to
meet
the
regional
needs
and
the
projected
future
needs
without
unacceptable
impacts
to
Natural
systems.
C
I
always
kind
of
like
that
one
and
but
you
can
see
the
interconnectivity
between
Springs
and
lakes,
and
you
see
the
wells
penetrate
through
the
aquifer
and
they
derive
their
water
from
the
same
aquifer
systems
that
feed
those
those
natural
systems,
and
so
they
created
the
Swift
Mud
The
Water
Management
District
created
a
plan
in
1999
called
the
northern
Tampa
Bay
recovery
strategy
to
reduce
fresh
groundwater
use
throughout
the
region
and
the
goals
were
to
conserve
water.
C
You
know
so
use
less
water
for
the
same
uses,
develop
alternative
water
supply
so
find
water
sources
to
meet,
needs
that
didn't
come
from
the
upper
Florida
aquifer
and
also
there's
a
concept
of
source
substitution
use,
lower
quality
water
sources
like
reclaimed,
water
to
replace
potable
water
uses
where
you
can
so
for
like
irrigation,
and
things
like
that.
If
you
need
irrigated
golf
course,
you
don't
need
the
high
quality
water
from
the
upper
Florida
reclaimed.
Water
is
perfectly
acceptable
and
their
overall
goal
is
to
meet
both
the
human
needs
for
our
population.
C
One
of
so
as
they
got
into
the
northern
Tampa
Bay
recovery
strategy.
They
did
a
number
of
things.
One
of
the
big
things
they
did
was
create
at
a
regional
utility
called
Tampa
Bay
water
in
1998.
That's
a
map
of
Tampa
Bay
water
and
they
sort
of
regionalized
the
system.
So
they
tied
all
these
different
utilities.
C
Together,
they
put
all
their
well
Fields
under
common
operation,
so
they
could
work
together
instead
of
against
each
other,
and
they
devoted
a
lot
of
funding
for
cost
share
to
local
entities
and
to
Tampa
water
to
help
make
these
projects
financially
viable
and
many
of
the
area
utilities
implemented
projects
to
reduce
fresh
groundwater
use,
and
that
can
be
things
like
building
out
a
reclaimed
water
system,
implementing
conservation
programs
and
many
utilities,
including
Tarpon
Springs
elected,
to
implement
their
own
local
alternative
water
supply
projects
such
as
a
local
desalination
facility,
so
utilities
that
implemented
projects
like
that
include
us
here
in
Tarpon,
Springs
Oldsmar
implemented
a
desalination
brackish
groundwater
facility.
C
Dunedin
has
one
as
well:
Clearwater
has
one
that
supplies
a
portion
of
their
water
needs
and
even
Tampa.
Bay
water
has
a
mix
of
Water
Supplies.
They
have
some
water
from
the
old
well
Fields.
They
have
some
water
from
a
big
Regional
surface
water
plant
they've
got
a
big
Reservoir
to
supplement
that
surface
water
supply
and
they've
got
a
sea
water
scale.
Desalination
reverse
osmosis
facility,
that's
all
tied
in
the
regional
system.
C
So
here
you
can
see
some
photos
of
some
of
those
Regional
water
supply
projects
that
were
implemented
around
the
area.
The
top
left
is
oldsmars,
reverse
osmosis
plant,
the
oh
boy.
What
is
the
top
right?
I
can't
recall,
I,
think
that
might
be
it.
No,
that's
not
us!
That's
Tampa,
Bay
Water,
all
the
all
the
membranes,
all
look,
the
same
I
think
that's
Tampa,
Bay,
Water,
bottom
left
bottom
right
is
Dunedin
and
the
bottom
left
is
the
big
Regional
CW
Bill
Young
Reservoir,
which
is
a
big
surface.
Water
reservoir
for.
C
That's
kind
of
out
towards
like
the
Lithia
area
like
it
takes
water
from
the
Alafaya
River
on
the
Eastern
side
of
Tampa
Bay,
it's
all
plumbed
together
with
large
Regional
pipelines.
So
what
about
Tarpon?
How
did
we
get
to
where
we
are
so?
We
started
planning
for
a
new
water
plant
in
the
early
2000s.
We
started
working
with
the
regional
entity,
the
Water
Management
District
on
Cooperative
funding
to
help
build
the
plan.
It
would
have
been
a
very
large
Financial
lift
for
the
City
by
itself.
C
C
That's
a
great
question:
I
want
to
say
it
was
pretty
I
think
the
initial
cost
estimate
early
on
was
like
38
million
dollars.
I
think
it
came
in
a
little
bit
closer
to
50
all
in,
but
we
got
50
50
cost
share
from
the
Water
Management
District,
which
is
great.
C
It
was,
it
was
very
good
deal
and
it
was
right
before
a
lot
of
construction
being
very
expensive.
So
we
got
a
very
good
value
for
that
for
the
amount
of
water
treatment
capacity
that
we
have
great
question
and
yeah,
and
we
implemented
this
project
as
a
design
build
project
which
meant
to
be
kind
of
worked
with
a
contractor
and
a
group
of
Engineers
together
to
try
and
find
ways
to
be
efficient
and
build
it
over
together
over
time
and
the
project
came
along,
came
online
in
mid-2015.
C
Roughly
yeah,
that's
that's!
That's
pretty
typical
yeah,
especially
with
the
financing
and
stuff.
Like
that,
the
permits
a
lot
of
testing
a
lot
of
hydrogeology,
a
rule
of
thumb.
We
used
to
use
the
Water
Management
District.
Was
it
takes
about
7
to
15
years
to
implement
a
regional
project
so.
F
C
That's
that's
pretty
standard,
so
here's
how
our
water
supply
used
to
look,
let's
see
if
this
works,
so
we
would
take
whatever
we
could
out
of
our
local
freshwater
Wells
and
then
we
would
use
water
imported
from
Pinellas
County,
which
was
tied
in
with
that
big
Regional
system
to
fill
up
the
balance,
and
we
were
using
about
three
million
gallons
a
day
and
here's
what
we're
doing
today,
this
is
pretty
cool
I
did
not
make
this
slide,
we're
still
taking
some
of
our
water
from
our
Legacy
freshwater
Wells,
because,
that's
you
know
a
little
bit
more
affordable.
C
C
That
we
have
more,
we
have
more
customers,
we
have
a
higher
population,
but
the
conservation
efforts
people
being
more
efficient
with
their
water
use
over
time.
Part
of
that
has
to
do
with
our
rate
structure.
We
have
a
conservation
rate
structure
that
creates
an
economic
incentive
for
water
conservation.
C
F
Okay,
so
you
can
see
from
the
I
love
the
graphics
you
can
see.
We're
put.
Let's
start
at
the
bottom
left
we're
pulling
brackish
water
out
of
the
aquifer.
It
goes
through
a
series
of
pipelines.
It
ties
all
the
different
Wells
Fields
together
and
it
ends
up
at
the
RO
plant
First
Step
kind
of
the
top
left
there.
We
we
put
it
through
a
series
of
cartridge
filters
which
remove
you
get
with
with
Wells
you're
pulling
out
of
the
ground.
F
You
get
sand,
you
get
fine
particulates,
you
don't
want
that
to
get
into
the
membranes.
The
membranes
are
very
fine.
You
really
don't
want
anything
to
foul
or
contaminate
them.
This
is
Replacements
costly.
So
we
do
some
filtering.
We
feed.
We
have
the
feed
water
you'll
notice
there.
In
this
graphic
it
says
4.2
million
gallons
a
day,
so
you're
pumping
a
lot
of
raw
water
into
the
into
the
membranes
and
you'll,
see.
There's
two
streams
that
come
out
of
that.
So
when
you
go
through
reverse
osmosis,
you
get
pure
water
coming
out.
F
That's
the
majority
of
it,
the
the
3.1
million
gallons
a
day
on
the
right,
but
you
also
get
what
we
call
concentrate
that
comes
out
of
the
bottom,
that's
more
of
a
concentrated
brine
solution
approaching
sea
water
so
that
there's
there's
the
The
Good
the
treated
water.
That's
where
we're
going
to
continue
to
process
and
take
out
to
distribution
to
the
community
and
then
there's
the
concentrate
so
kind
of
complete.
F
We'll
see
some
pictures
in
a
second
of
what
the
membranes
look
like,
but
the
treated
water
comes
out
now
when
you
treat
it
through
reversa
great
question,
so
we
injected
we
have
a
deep,
well
injection
on
Dixie
Highway.
So
it
goes
down
now
that
we're
pulling
typically
a
well
for
for
the
Florida
and
aquifer
is
100
to
150
feet
and
we're
down
about
1200
feet.
15!
F
F
F
Because
it'd
be
very
concentrated,
yeah,
it's
it's
one
of
the
challenges
as
I
understand
with
your
desalination.
You
can't
just
process
that
and
then
dump
that
that
discharge.
You
know
it's
going
to
have
a
harmful
effect
on
all
the
Aquatic
Life,
where
you're
dumping
it
so.
D
D
F
So,
anyway,
we
continue
to
process
it.
As
I
said,
when
it
comes
out
of
the
RO
process,
it's
very
pure
there's
everything
has
been
stripped
out
of
it.
It's
it's
water
and
there's
no,
a
lot
of
the
chemicals
that
we'll
have
to
add
some
things
back
into
it
to
make
it
the
right
pH
to
make
it
the
right
hardness
level.
You
know
with
calcium
and
things
like
that,
so
it
goes
through.
F
You
see
the
the
degasification
process
and
chlorination
and
basically
when
it
comes
out
of
there,
it's
ready
for
distribution,
and
we
have
five
million
gallons
of
water
storage
on
site.
There's
there's
a
tank
within
a
tank.
It's
essentially
two
2.5
million
gallon
tanks,
but
it
looks
like
one
big
tank,
but
it
goes
into
that
and
from
there
we
distribute
it
and
the
pumps
I
came
from
up
North
you're
used
to
seeing
water
towers.
F
You
don't
see
a
whole
lot
of
that
in
Florida
right
we're
we're
pumping
out
at
60
pounds,
60
PSI,
that's
what's
going
out
into
distribution
and
it's
feeding
the
entire
Community
we're
not
relying
on
Towers
to
to
give
us
the
pressure.
So,
as
the
slideshow's
distribution,
it's
taken
it
out
to
all
of
our
all
of
our
customers
in
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs.
F
It's
it's
the
pump,
the
pumps
at
the
plant
and
there'll
be
a
picture
of
it
in
a
couple
slides
but
yeah.
These
large
horsepower
pumps
that
are
basically
pressurizing
the
entire
system.
So
here's
a
photo
on
the
right.
Those
are
what
we
call
the
membrane,
skids
or
arrays,
there's
actually
two
stages
that
all
the
water
goes
through,
and
this
will
kind
of
feed
into
my
second
presentation
on
what
we're
trying
to
do
for
with
solar
power.
But
it
takes
a
lot
of
pressure
to
force
the
water
through
the
membranes.
F
It's
about
400
PSI
at
the
first
stage,
so
you're
putting
a
lot
of
pressure
beyond
that,
and
then
it
turns
around
and
goes
into
the
second
stage
and
we
use
we
use
it
to
be
akin
to
a
turbocharger
on
a
car.
It
takes
the
velocity
of
the
water
is
that
comes
out
of
that
and
it
spins
it
up
faster
to
about
525,
PSI
question.
E
B
F
C
F
E
C
Yeah
yeah
in
general,
hotter
water
is
more
easily
put.
You
get
a
higher
recovery
or
a
higher
yield
for
for
reverse
osmosis
processes,
but
it's
it
like
they're
all
saying
because
it's
all
groundwater,
it's
all
coming
out
of
state.
E
F
Yep
so
you'll
see
the
the
the
membrane
skids
on
the
right
and
the
large
horsepower
pumps
that
are
pumping
the
water.
We
have
three
skids.
F
Typically
we're
running
one
to
two,
so
at
night
is
when
our
water
flow
is
going
way
down.
We'll
use
that
time
to
build
the
tanks
back
up
to
full
capacity.
We
like
to
run
just
one
skid
if
we
as
long
as
we
can,
because
it
takes
less
energy,
but
what
we,
what
we
want
to
build
the
levels
up,
we'll
we'll
run
two,
so
you
always
have
one
in
reserve
in
case
there's
any
kind
of
problems
with
that.
But
okay,
now
the
plant
is,
this
doesn't
show
I
wish.
F
We
had
a
great
aerial
view,
that's
by
the
way
fire
station
71
in
the
background,
our
next
door
neighbors,
but
we
have
the
the
plant.
C
F
Is
with
the
with
the
membrane
skids
and
then
on
the
back
side,
we'll
see
the
large
distribution
tank
in
a
second,
but
on
one
side
is
all
the
acids
that
we
use
to
treat.
There's
I
won't
go
into
all
the
chemistry,
but
you
need
assets,
acids,
sulfuric,
acid,
we
use
to
process
the
water
and
then
on
the
other
side.
This
side
is
the
basic
side
which
is
after
it's
after
it's
gone
through
the
membranes
to
to
get
it
to
get
all
the
properties
where
we
need
it.
F
This
is
the
distribution
side.
These
are
the
large
pumps
that
pump
water
out
to
the
city
and
there's.
This
is
essentially
as
I
said.
This
is
our
this
is
the
distribution
side
of
the
plant,
so
you
can
you
can
turn
we
could
turn
all
the
skids
off
all
the
membranes
skids
off
you
can.
You
can
run
just
to
distribution,
you
know,
so
you
could
fill
the
tanks
up
and
then
obviously
you
couldn't
do
that
very
long,
but
you
know
this
it's
kind
of
like
two
facilities
within
one
facility.
Yes,
yes,.
E
F
Yes,
in
fact,
there's
even
there's
even
a
couple
of
colors
of
blue
after
it
comes
out
of
the
RO
process.
It's
like
a
light.
A
lighter
blue,
that's!
Well,
it's
it's
been
processed,
but
it
hasn't
been.
It's
not
ready
for
distribution
and
after
it's
been
treated,
you
get
that
we
don't
do
any
reclaimed
water
at
this
site.
That
way.
F
So,
in
terms
of
water
quality,
we
do
have
a
lab
on
site.
You'll
see
well,
the
picture
on
the
left
is
the
lab
the
picture
on
the
top
right.
We
have
a
lot
of
these
it
you,
if
you
walk
through
the
facility
you'll
see
places
where
we
can
pull
water
samples
everywhere,
just
an
example
of
one,
so
you
can
feel
but
but
as
far
as
what
we
do,
we
test
pH
alkalinity
temperature
conductivity.
You
know
the
oops
one
too
far.
These
are
the
things
we
test
on
a
routine
basis.
F
Obviously,
for
drinking
water
there
is
extensive
testing
that
has
to
be
done
and
we
Supply
samples
to
outside
Labs
that
are
certified
that
do
all
of
our
more
more
complex
testing
and
things
like
that.
So
this
is
the
kind
of
things
we
test
on
a
daily
basis
to
make
sure
the
water
quality
meets
all
the
appropriate
standards
and
then
there's
more.
That's
done.
You
know
by
outside
agencies,
with
that
I
think.
C
Yeah,
so
here
you
can
see,
I
wasn't
sure
what
was
on
this
map
Dr
manino,
but
up
in
the
top
kind
of
top
dead
center.
You
can
see
we
have
the
that
blue
star.
That's
the
water
plant
most
of
the
well
fields
are
kind
of
just
general
for
the
brackish
water
facility
are
kind
of
northeast
of
there
they
run
kind
of
along.
You
know:
l,
r,
Industrial
Boulevard.
C
We
have
some
wells
and
along
some
existing
utility
corridors
in
that
area,
we've
got
a
cup,
those
brown
and
those
brown
colored
lines
that
you
can
see
there.
Those
are
raw
water
lines,
so
you
can
see
that's
where
our
raw
water
comes
from
and
once
it
goes
to
the
plant
it
goes,
gets
treated,
meets
all
our
federal
primary
and
secondary
drinking
water
standards.
We
demonstrate
that
affirmatively
to
our
Regulatory
Agencies
through
testing
and
continuous
monitoring,
and
then
we
send
it
off
to
the
to
the
customers.
C
I
think
these
numbers
are
maybe
a
couple
years
old,
but
we've
got
about
10
000
connections,
overall,
the
vast
majority
of
which
are
residential.
We've
got
about
140
some
miles
of
water
main
and
we've
got
1300
ish
fire
hydrants,
2200
valves
for
controlling
you
know
the
system
if
we
ever
had
a
line,
break
or
need
to
do,
repairs
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff.
So
that's
how
we
get
the
water
out
to
the
customers.
C
We
do
want
to
touch
a
little
bit
on
the
Wastewater
utility.
I
know.
This
is
like
a
common
question
about
you
know
like,
and
it's
been
a
subject
of
discussion
with
the
sustainability
committee,
because
we
were
working
through
the
star
framework
and
there
were
all
these
great
things
about
like
how
to
improve
your
water
quality
and
we've
done
a
lot
of
those.
C
So
we
wanted
to
kind
of
bring
that
back
to
you
and
say
and
show
that
hey
we've
been
working
on
this
for
a
long
time
and
that
we're
doing
really
great
on
the
Wastewater
side
of
things
too.
C
Here's
our
Wastewater
collection
system.
Obviously
we
start
with
water
going
out
to
the
customers
and
then
they
send
it
back
to
us
once
they
use
it.
So
we've
got.
You
know
another
150
some
miles
of
pipe
to
collect
all
that
Wastewater
and
take
it
back
to
a
central
location
for
treatment
like
2
300
manholes,
for
access
to
clean
and
maintain
the
system.
We've
got
60
lift
stations,
which
is
when
you've
got
a
very
flat
area.
C
You
don't
want
your
slope
pipes
to
go
wind
up,
60
feet
underground
as
they
keep
getting
deeper
and
deeper
and
deeper.
So
occasionally
we
have
a
pumps
and
we
pump
it
back
up
and
send
it
on
its
way
to
the
plant.
If
it's
most
of
the
system
is
run
by
gravity,
so
it
requires
no
energy
to
move
the
water
around
and
that's
that's
an
important
engineering
thing
that
they
try
and
do
is
conserve
energy
use
by
using
gravity
to
move
water
around
as
much
as
possible.
Yes,
doctor
make
it.
D
So
at
the
end
of
Chesapeake.
B
D
C
That's
a
good
question:
I,
don't
know
the
answer
right
off
the
top
of
my
head:
we've
got
60
lift
stations
and
we
do
have
some
I.
Don't
think
we
have
any
private
lift
stations
up
there,
but
we
have
three
lift
stations
right
there,
one
on
Riverside
in
Chesapeake
and
we've
got
another
one
off
to
the
right
as
you
come
into
that
down
Chesapeake
another
one,
all
the
way
back
up
by
the
mobile
home,
Community
right.
C
Yeah,
we
have
a
dedicated
utilities,
maintenance
crew,
so
sometimes
they'll
put
different
lift
stations
on
priority
for
Rehab,
so
they
might
be
going
in
and
rebuilding
electrical
panels
or
replacing
pumps
or
doing
pipe
work.
The
life
cycle
on
those
lift
stations-
usually
they
tend
to
last
but
somewhere
between
30
40
50
years,
depending
on
service
and
how
they're
originally
constructed.
So
we
have
a
dedicated
staff
that
go
around
and
they'll
pick
different,
lift
stations
to
really
focus
on
and
rehab
and
I.
Think
Chesapeake
might
have
been
on
that
list
as
I
recall.
D
B
C
C
C
I
like
to
think
so
so
yeah
so
our
waste.
So
we
move
all
this
Wastewater
around
right
and
we
take
it
to
our
Advanced
wastewater
treatment
facility.
It's
called
an
advanced
wastewater
treatment
facility
because
it
provides
nutrient
removal,
so
this
it
does
what
it
does
nutrient
removal
so
there's
different
standards
in
Florida
for
what
level
of
treatment
you
provide
and
in
1986
there
was
a
lot
of
issues
in
the
80s
with
water
quality
in
the
Tampa
Bay
Region.
So
they
put
out
some
new
regulations
called
the
grizzle
fig
standards.
C
They
were
named
after
certain
prominent
politicians
that
pushed
this
issue
at
the
time
and
they
made
numeric
nutrient
criteria
for
the
Tampa
Bay
Region.
So
all
the
area
utilities
had
to
come
up
to
these.
You
know
stringent
standards
for
nutrient
removal
and
that's
when
we
built
our
Advanced
wastewater
treatment
facility,
so
our
plants
built
to
handle
4
million
gallons
day
of
wastewater
treatment.
Our
flows
tend
to
average
about
2
million
gallons
a
day
as
the
water
goes
out.
C
The
district
you
notice
that's
lower
than
what
we
produce
so
some
water
people
use
it
and
it
goes
through
sinks
and
showers
and
toilets
and
things
like
that
and
it
comes
back
and
other
stuff,
not
so
much.
You
know
so
like
out
a
little
bit
of
outdoor
water
use.
There's
some
like
you
know,
consumptive
uses
and
things
like
that
in
like
industrial
activities
and
things
like
that,
so
Tommy.
C
That's
a
great
question:
I'm
not
super
familiar
with
gray
water.
We
tend
to
focus
in
utilities.
We
tend
to
be
heavily
focused
on
everything
up
to
the
property
line,
so
the
utility
owns
all
the
utilities
up
to
the
property
line
or
up
to
the
water
meter,
and
once
we
get
into
great
internal
gray
water
systems
that
becomes
part
like
the
building
code
and
things
like
that.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
different
issue.
I'm
not
I'm,
not
very
well
versed
in
that
right
now.
A
D
So
when
you
say
you
remove
nutrients
the
like
positive
connotations,
you
know
you
want
to
have
nutrients,
you
want
to
eat
nutrients
yeah.
What
are
these
nutrients?
Are
they
good
things?
What
do
you
do
with
them?
Lots.
C
Of
things
need
nutrients,
including
harmful
algae,
so
the
reason
that
we
do
nutrient
removal
is
to,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we've
got
all
this.
You
know
these
nutrients
right
and
I.
C
So
nutrients
would
be
things
like
in
in
the
human
body.
They
might
be
things
like
your
vitamins
and
minerals,
and
things
like
that
for
plants.
That
might
be
things
like
nitrogen
and
phosphorus.
Those
are
the
most
important
ones
we
look
at.
We
also
look
at
all
the
other
sort
of
organic
material
that
could
be
consumed
by
microbes,
that
might
they
might
need
oxygen
out
of
like
ambient
water
sources
to
to
basically
consume
all
that
energy.
C
So,
basically,
the
goal
of
the
wastewater
treatment
process
is
to
take
all
those
things
that
could
have
harmful
impacts
on
natural
systems
like
say
the
enclote
river,
and
treat
them
to
a
level
that
is
acceptable
for
the
natural
environment,
and
so
we
remove
all
all
the
things
that
are
a
lot
at
the
vast
majority
of
the
compounds
that,
like
bacteria
or
microbes,
would
eat
that
would
consume
oxygen
out
of
the
water
column.
For
example,
we
remove
the
vast
majority
of
all
the
nitrogen
phosphorus
that,
if
you
put
a
lot
of
nitrogen
and
phosphorus.
C
Okay,
so
basically
the
wastewater
treatment
process
is
a
biological
process,
so
a
water
treatment
tends
to
be
a
chemical
process,
you're
using
chemistry
to
or
physical
processes
like
membranes
and
filters.
The
biological
treatment
process
is
there's
microbes
in
Wastewater
right.
We
can
all
guess
where
they
come
from
and
what
we
they
want
to
consume
all
the
organic
matter
and
all
the
nutrients
and
chemical
compounds
in
the
Wastewater
right,
but
there's
not
enough
of
them.
C
So
what
we
do
is
we
basically
add
some
oxygen
use,
some
really
smart
chemistry
and
biological
principles,
and
we
convert
all
those
chemicals
and
all
those
organic
sources
of
energy
into
biomass.
So
we
have
the
bugs
and
we
grow
them
and
we
get
them
used
to
eat,
consuming
the
Wastewater
compounds
and
we
take,
and
then
we
put
them
into
what
they
call
a
clarifier.
You
can
see
those
kind
of
circular
open
air
tanks
in
the
back
there,
and
then
we
settle
them
all
down.
C
C
You
might
have
heard
of
that,
and
that
goes
for
beneficial
reuse
in
agricultural
practices.
Yeah.
C
Some
organic
compounds
are
broken
down.
We
don't
do
a
lot
of
like
super
stringent
testing
on
a
week
on
a
daily
or
monthly
basis
for
like
those
types
of
compounds,
but
we
do
do
a
screening
once
a
year
for
all
the
different
primary
and
secondary
drinking
water
standards
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
doing
anything.
That's
like
harmful
for
the
environment
and
stuff
like
that
and.
B
D
C
Can
see
them
in
in
aggregate
like
yeah
they'll,
Clump
together
and
form
little
like
brown,
floaty
specks
that
are
floating
around
kind
of
like
have
you
ever
had?
Does
anyone
here
ever
had
a
fish
tank,
yeah
yeah
and
you
have
your
little
filter,
that's
doing
the
same
thing
so
on
your
filter.
You
get
all
that
little
brown
slimy
stuff
growing
on
there
and
that's
similar
to
the
Wastewater
process.
C
Those
those
things
that
grow
on
your
filter
are
converting
all
the
ammonia
from
your
fish
tank
into
other
compounds
and
we're
doing
the
same
thing,
but
instead
of
using
a
physical
media
where
the
bugs
are
growing
on
a
filter,
we've
got
them
suspended
in
the
water
and
they're
going
around
inside
the
water
column,
eating
all
the
different
chemicals
good.
E
C
It
is
very
much
like
Pac-Man.
We
actually
do
once
a
week,
look
at
them
under
a
microscope
and
see
what
types
of
bugs
are
in
there
and
there's
certain
types
of
bugs
that
you
want,
and
if
you
know
you
get
too
much
of
like
the
wrong
kind
of
bugs
you
go
and
adjust
the
process
and
yeah.
So
they
we
do.
Look
at
that.
D
C
It's
pretty
cool
and
the
good
news
is:
is
we
have
a
five-stage
biological
remove
removal
process?
C
We
use
microbiology,
do
all
this
treatment
and
for
these
compounds
that
would
be
harmful
to
the
natural
environment
and
the
goal
is
that
when
we
do
need
to
discharge
water
out
to
the
Anglo
River,
we
have
a
little
bit
too
much
and
we
don't
have
enough
reclaimed
water
customers
to
use
it,
that
we're
being
protective
of
the
natural
environment
and
in
most
cases,
the
water
that
we
discharged,
the
Anclote
river,
is
lower
in
nutrients
than
the
water.
That's
in
the
river,
where
we're
discharging
into
so
we're.
C
C
It
yes,
so,
which
brings
us
to
our
reclaimed
water
system,
so
we're
we
one
of
our
parts
of
becoming
more
sustainable
dealing
with
our
Water
Resources
issues
as
part
of
the
region.
The
Water
Management
District
had
a
goal
for
regionally
to
for
everyone
to
get
to
75
percent
reuse
of
their
treated
Wastewater
and
we're
we
tend
to
hover
around
80
depending
on
the
climate
for
the
year,
so
we're
reusing,
80
percent
of
our
reclaimed,
water
and
we've
over
time
built
out
a
very
extensive
reclaimed.
Water
system
you
can
see
here.
C
Those
are
all
those
purple
lines
are
where
we
have
reclaimed
water
service.
We've
got
about
1800
customers
right
now,
and
our
average
customer
uses
as
a
resident
uses
about
500
gallons
a
day,
and
we've
also
got
several
storage
tanks
to
help
store
up
the
water
and
we
have
it
and
to
maximize
our
use
and
we've
got
about
30
miles
of
water
mains.
Yes,
okay,.
B
D
D
They're
using
the
city
just
put
in
that
grass
unnecessarily
and
are
using
potable
water
to
irrigate
it,
so
you
know
doesn't
make
me
happy
and
if
there
was
reclaimed
water,
that
would
be
another
issue,
so
I
guess
using
my
street
as
an
example.
My
little
Peninsula.
D
C
Our
most
common
question,
probably
that
we
get
in
the
Wastewater
division,
is
when
am
I
going
to
get
reclaimed
water
at
my
house
at
this
point,
so
there
an
important
part
about
reclaimed
water
is
that
in
any
particular
municipality,
it's
generally
unlikely
that
all
of
the
com,
the
customers
can
have
reclaimed
water
and
it's
just
because
of
availability.
So
if
you
look
at
the
average
house
in
Florida,
it
use
it,
it
only
produces
about
a
third
as
much
Wastewater
as
it
needs
to
supply
its
irrigation
needs.
C
Sure
that
was
done.
It
was
a
that
was
well
before
my
tenure
here,
but
there
was
we
had
a
reclaimed
water
master
plan
that
we,
co-funded
with
the
Water
Management
District,
and
the
goal
of
the
master
plan
is
to
identify.
You
know:
how
can
we
maximize
the
utilization
of
reclaimed
water
in
a
cost-effective
way?
And
so
the
goal
was
to
you
know
most
utilities
make
the
decision
to
try
and
hook
up.
C
If
there's
a
handful
of
like
large
volume,
water
users,
that
you
can
only
spend
a
limited
amount
of
capital
dollars,
they
tend
to
hook
up
folks
that
have
the
most
impact.
First.
So
like
things
like
golf
courses,
City
Ball,
Fields
city
park,
space,
cemeteries,
things
like
that
and
all
all
of
those
in
our
cities
have
reclaimed
water,
and
you
know
the
golf
course
has
reclaimed
water.
C
The
cemetery
uses
reclaimed
water,
the
ball
fields,
you
could
use
reclaimed
water
and
then,
as
you
build
out
those
pipelines,
those
large
users
you're
able
to
provide
reclaimed
water
along
those
corridors.
So
we
we
had
a
master
plan.
We
built
out
the
master
plan.
The
master
plan
is
complete,
we've
done
it
and
we
kind
of
have
our
system
now
and
unfortunately,
that's
what
I
was
getting
to
with
this
slide,
because
this
is
a
very
common
question.
Is
you
know
what
we're
at
80
reuse?
Everyone
feels
like
that's
a
lot
of
folks
feel
like
that.
C
There's
another
20,
that's
sort
of
hanging
out
that
we
could
use,
but
you
can
see
here
this
is
from
2020.
and
we're
80
reuse
over
the
course
of
the
year.
But
we
have
a
large
change
seasonally
as
we
go
month
to
month,
so
you
can
see
when
we
get
into
March
April
May.
C
And
so
we
did
do
an
evaluation
to
see
what
it
would
if
it
would
be
practicable
to
extend
reclaimed
water
north
of
the
river,
for
example,
or
to
do
some
additional
large
storage
projects
to
help
us
get
much
above
80
percent.
We've
got
a
couple
more
smaller
reclaimed,
water
projects
that
are
sort
of
Legacy
that
are
going
to
be
coming
online
over
the
next
year
or
so,
but
that's
kind
of
our
build
out
for
the
reclaimed
water
system.
C
The
the
way
I
like
to
think
about
it
is
the
customers
get
the
water
first
and
the
leftovers
is
what
we
have
to
discharge
the
river.
So
we
have
our
tanks
and
when
they're
you
know
and
when
they
fill
up
all
the
way
to
the
top
and
there's
nowhere
to
put
it
and
no
one's
using
it.
That's
when
we
have
to
do
a
surface
water
detergent,
you
can
see
in
March,
April
May.
Those
are
the
dry
months
right,
sometimes
into
June
I,
see
that's
when
everyone's
irrigating
a
lot.
C
They
need
the
water
everyone's
trying
to
keep
their
grass
alive.
We're
trying
to
keep
the
golf
course
nice
and
the
ball
Field's,
looking
good
for
the
for
the
Little,
League,
kids
and
stuff,
like
that,
and
the
vast
majority
of
our
water
availability
is
in
the
wet
months
when
no
one
really
wants
it.
So
no
one
really
wants
to
irrigate
the
ball
fields.
We
don't
need
to
irrigate
the
golf
courses
much
when
it's
September
and
it's
raining
every
day
and
there's
just
very
little
demand
for
for
reclaimed
as
a
product.
C
D
B
D
We
didn't
need
it,
you
could
have
planted.
You
know
ground
cover
or
you
could
have
made
some
interesting
thing,
because
you
put
the
grass
in
I
mean
when
it's
tall.
It
gets
really
tall
quickly
because
it's
that
kind
of
grass,
so
they
have
to
mow
it
like
all
the
time
and
it's
really
all
Full
Of
Weeds,
because
I
walk
my
dog,
but
so
now
we
have
grass
and
we
have
to
irrigate
it.
We
weren't
nothing
was
being
irrigated
before
Shore
was
sand
and
there
were
weeds,
but
I'll
tell
you.
D
No
one
really
cared
that
it
was
like
that
because
one
it's
not
a
part
that
people
use.
No,
it
is
one
bench
in
it.
No
one
uses
it
and
and
it's
it's
sort
of
unnecessary
sure.
B
D
A
As
the
sustainability
plan
is
rolled
out,
you
know,
year
by
year,
month
by
month,
hopefully
they'll
be
more
coordination
that
that
might
have
been
a
decision
that
was
made
prior
to.
D
A
A
C
Thank
you
yeah,
so
that
that's
a
little
bit
of
an
overview
of
like
you
know
what
our
reclaimed
water
situation
looks
like.
So
you
know,
just
in
summary,
you
know
we're
using
as
much
as
we
possibly
can.
You
know.
We've
got
a
little
bit
of
opportunities
for
built,
finishing
building
out
our
existing
projects,
but
long
term
we've
sort
of
built
the
system
and
we've
become
quite
efficient,
we're
dramatically
well,
not
dramatically,
but
we
are
exceeding
the
Water
Management
District's
Regional
Target
for
us,
which
is
75,
reuse
and
we're
up
around
80..
C
So
we're
doing
quite
good
and
we've
been
very
Progressive
on
reclaimed
water
development
to
the
maximum
extent
that
we
could
really
like
financially
support
so
yeah.
In
summary,
we've
got
a
few
major,
successful
programs
that
really
tie
in
with
sustainability
and
like
building
out
the
reclaimed
water
system.
That
was
a
20-year
Endeavor,
if
not
a
little
bit
more.
C
Completing
our
own
independent
alternative
water
supply
to
reduce
our
water
supply
burden
on
the
regional
system
and
building
out
our
solar
projects
at
the
reverse
osmosis
plant,
which
we'll
talk
about
in
just
a
minute-
and
this
is
a
really
cool
thing-
we're
part
of
a
big
Regional
success
here,
so
we
weren't
doing
this
in
a
vacuum.
This
was
part
of
us
working
in
conjunction
with
the
Water
Management
District,
all
these
other
Regional
utilities,
to
help
make
a
difference
in
our
water
supply
and
for
the
environment.
So
this
is
a
really
cool
graph.
C
In
March
of
2021
swissman
announced
that
the
Regional
Recovery
strategy
for
Northern
Tampa
Bay,
was
complete.
They
met
all
their
goals,
the
water
resources
were
recovering
and
they
dramatically
reduced
the
amount
of
fresh
water
being
taken
out
of
the
upper
Florida
and
aquifer,
and
you
can
see
those
bar
charts
are
the
amount
of
total
Water
Production
out
of
the
Upper
Floor
in
aquifer
and
they've
hit
their
targets
in
many
cases
they've
in
some
year.
C
If
you
look
at
it
from
certain
Peak
years,
they've
almost
cut
Regional
groundwater
use
in
half
and
that
orange
line
is
our
population.
So
we're
serving
more
and
more
and
more
people
with
less
and
less
and
less
dependence
on
our
limited,
fresh
groundwater
resources,
and
you
can
see
here,
our
per
capita
water
use.
C
You
know
Florida's
average
per
capital
water
use
is
about
134.
The
U.S
average
is
about
130
in
the
regional
in
the
Water
Management
District
we're
about
97
and
Tarpon,
we're
actually
lower
than
that.
We
tend
to
be
in
the
low
90s
depending
on
what
year.
It
is
so
we're
doing
quite
exceptional
on
conservation,
and
this
has
really
good
implications
for
natural
resources.
So
here's
those
water
resources
that
we
were
looking
at
earlier
there
you
can
see.
13
years
later
we
had
a
dry
lake.
C
C
I'm
afraid
I
couldn't
tell
you,
it
looks
like
it's
a
little
bit
of
foam.
You
can
sometimes
get
that
if
you
get
like
you
know
some.
We
have
very
tannic
Waters
here
sudden
you
get
that
if
you
have
like
a
little
Rapid
or
something
like
that.
C
I
didn't
take
that
photo.
That's
from
that's
from
2016,
so
I
would
hope
that
they
would
take
a
photo
of
a
good
natural
system.
C
C
Again
to
talk
about
our
Ro
plants,
solar
generation
system,
okay,.
F
Very
excited
to
talk
about
the
project
that
we
have
going
on
at
the
at
the
RO
plant
with
solar
power.
So
what
are
the
benefits?
Why?
Why
are
we
investing
in
solar
power?
Well,
I
talked
earlier
about
the
the
amount
of
pressure
that
it
takes
to
remember.
We
are
a
very
energy
intensive
process,
so
one
it
saves
a
lot
of
energy
costs
to
be
able
to
use
solar
it
and,
ultimately,
that's
going
to
have
a
positive
effect
on
all
the
people
that
are
buying
water.
F
F
You
know
meeting
environmental
objectives,
and-
and
this
contributes
to
that
as
well,
so
I
talked
early
talked
about
yeah,
the
second,
but
why
why
solar
you
know,
and
that
not
only
does
it
help
reduce
spills,
but
you
know
we're
kind
of
at
the
whim
just
like,
as
we
are
as
residents
to
Duke
Energy
Right
raising
rates,
and
we
had
a
huge
rate
increase
this
year
and
now
you'll
see
that
in
a
second
on
a
slide.
I
have
right
here.
So
this
is
kind
of
a
neat
graphic
that
shows
you
know.
F
What's
what's
the
contribution
of
electricity
to
the
the
cost
of
water
that
we
buy,
so
we
distribute.
You
know
you
pay
your
bills
in
dollars,
per
1000
gallons
right,
You
can
see
where
we
were
about
66
cents.
Excuse
me
68
69
cents
back
in
in
early
2019,
and
you
can
see
right
when
the
solar
project
went
in
phase.
F
One
dropped,
our
you
know
the
contribution
of
that
down
to
57
cents,
so
pretty
dramatic
decrease,
percentage-wise
and
I
I
carried
this
out
to
the
most
recent
billing
and
you
can
see
in
2023.
That's
that's
not
more
water
that
caused
that
huge
increase
in
cost.
That's
the
rate
increase
that
we
got
from
duke.
So
you
know
it's
up
now
at
92
cents.
So
it's
it's
just
like
everything
that
that
we
see
you.
We
see
it
as
consumers.
We
see
it.
F
A
B
B
B
F
So
we
we're
actually
the
pro
project
we
have
underway.
Now
is
what
we'll
call
phase
two,
but
we
we
have
quite
a
few
solar
panels
installed
and
that's
that
blue
box
at
the
top.
That's
we'll
call
phase
one
that
consists
of
416
solar
panels,
they're
all
390
watt
modules,
so
each
panel
and
they're
I
don't
have
an
exactly
they're.
Probably
three
foot
by
five
foot
is
a
typical
module
and
they
they
put
out
390
Watts.
So
the
whole
system
has
a
120
watt,
120
kilowatt
capacity,
and
we
talk.
F
It
actually
makes
energy
in
DC
and
it
converts
it
to
AC,
so
I'm
just
going
to
talk
AC,
because
that's
what
we
we
use
as
a
consumer,
so
120
kilowatt
system,
phase.
Two
is
all
the
things
you
see
in
green,
so
l,
r,
on
the
very
left
of
that
picture's,
l,
r,
Industrial
Parkway,
there's
a
going
to
be
an
array
of
panels
right
out
at
the
road
and
then
the
rest
you'll
see
one
at
the
top
right.
F
There's
there's
like
a
a
small
area
which
we
have
basically
taking
every
square
foot
we
can
and
putting
solar
in
there
you'll
see
that
there's
a
couple
at
the
at
the
at
the
bottom
right,
that'd
be
the
that'd,
be
the
southeast
corner
of
the
property.
There's
a
couple
panels
there
right
in
the
in
that
thing
that
separates
them.
There's
a
well
right
in
the
middle
of
that
that's
one
of
the
wells
where
we're
pulling
brackish
water.
F
That
green
space
to
the
left
of
that
is
like
a
wetlands
area,
see
it's
the
it's
the
you
know,
retention
Pond
for
for
for
storm
water,
so
that's
kind
of
an
Untouchable
area
and
obviously
we're
right
up
against
the
fire
station
there.
So.
F
I
I,
don't
have
a
number
off
I,
don't
have
a
good
number.
I
can
get
back.
I
can
get
that
number
curious.
So
so
this
solar,
the
the
evil,
so
I
didn't
finish
phase
two.
It's
663
panels
and
you'll
notice
that
the
modules
now
it
is
solar
is
the
technology,
is
improving.
We've
gone
from
390
watt
modules,
now
they're
up
to
450.
That
will
continue
to
grow.
F
You
know
as
as
time
goes
on,
so
you
know,
they'll
be
more
and
more
efficient
for
the
same
size
module,
and
so
this
will
give
us
235
kilowatts,
so
we're
producing
right
now
the
solar
phase
one
produces.
What
would
you
say,
Tommy
less
than
less
than
10
percent
of
our
total
power.
C
We
we
did
a
quick
assessment
on
this.
We
found
that
you
know,
obviously
depending
on
what
time
you're
using
power
and
things
like
that
there's
certain
times
during
the
day.
If
we're
not
producing,
you
know,
through
the
skids
like
we
can
approach,
you
know
almost
all
of
the
daytime
electrical
consumption,
but
we
also
tend
to
produce
a
lot
of
our
water
at
night,
because
electricity
is
cheaper
and
we're
trying
to
keep
costs
down,
and
so
all
in
with
we.
C
We
estimate
that,
depending
on
the
year
and
like
climate
conditions,
what
not
that
the
first
phase
is
producing
four
or
five
percent
of
our
total
energy
demands
for
the
RO
plant
and
the
when
we
Implement
phase
two
it'll
be
somewhere
in
that
13
14
15
range.
F
C
F
Not
a
direct
answer
to
your
question,
but
but
you
get
a
few
we're
using
a
yeah
we're.
F
E
F
That's
a
great
question,
so
we
we've
talked
about
you
know
what's
phase
three,
because
we
have
the
ability
to
to
add
more
they've
talked
about
on
top
of
that
large
round
tank
is
the
water
distribution
tank,
but
that
tank
is
very
special
and
I.
There's
not
a
lot
of
appetite
to
mount
anything
up
there.
The
risk
is
just
too
high.
So
now
you
get
into
the
building,
and
you
know
we
really
need
to
take.
You
know
it
really
wasn't
designed
for
solar
panels
the
weight
of
it.
F
E
B
C
We
do
have
an
action
item
in
the
sustainability
plan
about
doing
feasibility
study
for
Solar
City
facilities,
I
I
want
to
say
that's
in
year,
two
yeah
Jordan,
your
call
it
it's
not
your
one,
I
think
I
think
it's
year,
two
or
three
that
to
look
year,
one
I
think
we
we're
trying
to
be
we're
going
to
be
working
on
like
a
clean
energy,
Target
and
a
plan,
and
then
a
follow-up
to
that
will
be
assessing
City
facilities
for
up
for
opportunities
for
for
solar
on
site.
C
One
of
the
findings
that
we
kind
of
leaned
into
a
little
bit
in
the
greenhouse
gas
study
was
that
we
did
our
inventory
and
we
kind
of
quickly
were
able
to
come
to.
C
You
know
all
right:
there's
not
enough,
like
vacant
land
near
like
on
site
with
these
facilities,
so
that
future
offsets
for
or
replacements
for
grid
energy
would
likely
have
to
be
some
sort
of
off-site
facility
or
alternately
working
through
our
existing
program
by
not
directly
building
those
facilities
ourselves,
but
participating
that
Duke
CEC
program
to
help
them
produce
off-site
solar
and
we
kind
of
pay
into
it
with
them.
F
Okay,
so
we
we
are
currently
building
out
phase
two
of
our
solar
project.
The
the
the
areas
I
showed
you
on
the
on
the
previous
slide,
so
right
now
they're
putting
the
The
Columns
or
they
call
it
pile
driving
they've.
They
I
wrote
this
last
week,
so
it
started
this
week
actually
started
last
week
and
we've
got
completion
slated
for
the
month
of
November.
So
all
the
solar
panels
are
on
site.
Actually
that
area
that's
right
off
of
ellendar
Parkway.
F
F
Yep
yep
yeah,
so
they've
got
those
panels
up
so
yeah
we're
they've
had
a
crew
out
there
they're
bringing
a
second
crew.
They
said
late
this
week.
My
guesses
will
be
early
next
week,
so
we'll
really
accelerate
the
project
along
who's.
Putting
it
in.
We
have
a
company
Advanced
Roofing.
Is
there
formal
name
doing
they're
doing
Advanced
green
technologies,
AGT
they're
out
of
Fort
Lauderdale.
F
Done
a
nice
job,
so
the
the
picture
at
the
bottom
is
just
the
panel,
that's
in
our
lobby.
So
when
you
walk
in
you
see,
how
are
we
doing
today
on
solar
and
I
happen
to
snap?
This
I
should
I
thought
later.
I
had
to
get
the
slides
in
last
week,
but
I
thought
I
should
have
snapped
the
photo
when
it
was
at
120
kilowatt
output.
You
know
that
would
have
been,
but
I
just
took
it
and
but
there's
but
there's
a
neat
little
thing
you
can
see
on
the
right
side.
F
Some
pictures,
I
I,
snapped
just
the
the
southeast
property
corner.
You
can
see
that
one
when
I
took
it,
they
hadn't
started
the
pile
driving
it's.
You
can
see
all
those
Stakes
with
the
little
flags
on
them.
That's
where
they're
going
top
right
is
our
phase
one
just
kind
of
a
look
down
the
line,
it's
hard
to
get
all
the
panels
in
a
picture,
but
that's
the
Norse
property
line.
The
bottom
right
picture
is
the
front
of
the
building.
F
Like
I
said
that
shows
just
the
the
piles
in
there
and
and
they
started
they
were
just
starting
to
spread
the
you
know
the
cloth
to
prevent
weeds
from
coming
up
and
yeah.
Today,
it's
all
that
that
cloth's
all
covered
with
stone
and
there's
all
panels
on
there.
Now
it
looks
really
cool
and
then
we
have
a
small
set
at
the
northeast
corner
of
the
property.
That's
the
bottom
left
picture.
That's
that's!
Going
in
front
of
the
of
the
current
panels,
kind
of
exciting,
very.
A
B
A
There's
a
lot
to
celebrate.
Yeah
I
think
that
we're
on
track
with
quite
a
quite
a
few
sustainability
projects
already,
even
even
before
the
committee
came
together,
you
know.
So
this
is
wonderful
news
and
we
really
appreciate
the
explanation.
I
think
next
to
trees.
Water
is
is
one
of
the
most
exciting
topics
and
it's
vital.
A
Keep
looking
at
conservation
efforts
now
for
a
very
exciting
part
of
this
evening's
meeting.
I'm
gonna
ask
for
we
have
a
sustainability
coordinator
to
celebrate
and
we
would
love
to
get
a
little
background.
So
Tommy
is
going
to
introduce
Jordan.
C
Yeah
so
it's
my
very
distinct
pleasure
to
introduce
Miss
Jordan
Wilcox
she's,
going
to
be
our
new
sustainability
coordinator.
As
we
talked
last
meeting
we're
very
close
to
making
a
hire,
she
was
selected
out
of
over
50
applicants
on
a
nationwide
search.
She
comes
to
us
via
she's
she's,
local
right
here
in
in
past,
just
up
the
road
in
Pasco
County
and
she
comes
to
us
via
Colorado
and
before
that,
the
city
of
Cincinnati
and
we're
very
excited
to
have
her.
G
You
guys
have
any
questions
or
anything
like
that.
Most
of
my
experience,
I
graduated
from
the
University
of
Cincinnati
with
a
degree
mostly
focusing
on
Environmental
Policy.
Actually
that
was
a
goal
to
maybe
pursue
environmental
law.
Actually,
environmental
justice
and
I
didn't
want
to
go
to
school
for
another
six
years.
I
really
wanted
to
get
out
there
and
I
was
I.
Was
I
was
a
little
burnt
out
at
that
point,
but
had
a
great
internship
with
the
stormwater
management
utility
with
the
city
of
Cincinnati.
G
They
actually
created
a
full-time
position
for
me
after
my
internship,
so
I
literally
graduated
like
December
7th,
and
that
next
that
next
week
I
started
full
time
and
it
was,
it
was
a
great
experience.
Storm
water
management
was
under
the
Waterworks
umbrella,
so
different
challenges
for
sure
up
in
Ohio
versus
what
we're
dealing
with
and
seeing
here,
but
obviously
water.
We
no
one
survives
without
you
know:
excellent,
excellent
water.
G
So
and
even
there
it's
probably
going
to
become
an
issue
and
not
not
the
not
too
distant
future,
and
then
after
I
I
left
about
January
of
2022
moved
out
to
Colorado
for
about
a
year.
We're
in
Colorado
I
was
on
the
Front
Range,
so
you're
kind
of
right.
When
you
have
25
going
up
the
Front
Range
of
the
Rockies,
you
have,
you
have
the
the
prairies,
you
know
to
the
East
and
the
West.
You
have
the
Rockies
and
it's
just
the
recreation
is
amazing.
G
The
conservation
programs
out
there
are
just
like
unimaginable
the
public
land
access.
It's
it's
it's
earth-shattering
to
come
from
the
Midwest
and
and
go
out
there
and
and
experience
that.
So
that
was
personally
very
incredible
for
me
and
then
moved
here
to
be
closer
to
family.
My
family's
mostly
down
in
Bradenton
and
my
parents
are
here
a
cousin
and
my
grandparents
are
snowbirds.
G
So
I
have
a
good
bit
of
my
family
down
here
too
so
I
decided
to
stay
and
have
loved
the
decision
ever
since,
especially
since
coming
onto
this
position,
this
is
kind
of
the
we
talked
in
the
interview
about
it,
a
lot
actually
the
interviews
without
it
a
lot,
but
something
like
this
for
an
environmental
student.
This
is
what
you
go
in
for
like
this
is
seeing
the
difference
that
you
make
in
your
local
community.
I
mean
this
is
this:
is
the
purpose
of
it?
G
You
know
like
this
is
where
you
see
all
of
your
hard
work,
culminating
and
the
way
you
can
serve
your
community,
and
you
see
that
you
know
reclaimed.
Water
has
made
such
a
huge
impact
and
it's
part
of
the
the
success
that
you
guys
are
seeing
now
and
you
guys
have
done
an
amazing
job
with
the
sustainable
sustainability
plan
and
Robin
has
done
an
amazing
job.
Up
to
this
point,
and
I
am
an
action-oriented
person,
so
I
am
ready
to
kind
of
take
this
and
run
with
it
and
have
an
amazing.
G
Ced
of
goals,
I
have
a
couple
of
I
personal
ideas
that
I
would
really
love
to
see
come
to
fruition
that
are
related
to
the
to
the
plan,
but
not
necessarily
super
directly.
So
I
would
love
to
to
talk
with
you
all
about
those
and
at
some
point,
and
you
know,
get
to
get
to
going
with
those.
G
C
Fine,
okay,
you
can
talk
about
things
that
might
be
important
to
you
for
sustainability
initiative,
yeah,
okay,.
G
I
I
love,
I,
love
that
the
facility
is
even
available,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
even
feasible,
but
the
the
ability
to
better
utilize
are
maybe
our
yard
waste
facility
and
so
I
I,
we
drove
by
it
and
I
was
like
and
then
I
found
out.
It
was
55
acres
and
you
know,
and
obviously
we
don't
need
that
much
space,
but
it
seems
like
we
are
missing.
G
You
know,
and
it's
on
this
is
the
production
energy
production
composting
facility
we
were
out
today
for
I
mean
the
ideas
are
just
churning
to
make
that
make
that
work
better
for
us,
but
we
were
out
today
actually
learning
about
living
shorelines
out
at
Felipe
Park
and
just
they.
You
know
they
use
bags
of
oyster
shells
and
those
are
reclaimed
which
is
amazing
and
they
basically
like
they're,
just
turned
regularly
and
left
out
in
the
sun,
and
that's
all
that
you
need
to
like
cure
them.
G
If
you
will
and
then
they're
rebuilding
shorelines
with
that
and
it's
just
could
we
do
that?
A
program
like
that
at
our
facility
and
utilize
we're
so
close
to
the
coast?
You
know
that's
going
to
be
a
huge
like
option
to
to
continue
to
build
up
our
our
Shoreline
options.
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
Coastline
here,
so
it's
something
we
definitely
need
to
protect
and
just
different
things
like
that.
G
So
you
know
the
the
yard
waste
facility
I,
don't
want
to
make
any
any
promises
or
any
assumptions
I'm
still
so
new
I
don't
want
to
step
on
toes
either
you
know
of
of
other
City
departments
and
and
other
projects
that
may
be
in
the
works,
but
I
I
see
that
and
I
just
see
a
lot
of
potential
and
it
could
really
work
for
the
community.
So
that's
what
I'm
thinking
initially,
but
you
have
to
understand.
This
is
my
second
Thursday
here
so
really
really
fresh
fresh
out.
G
So
so
yeah
do
you
have
any
more
questions?
Can
I
answer
anything
I'm
sure
we'll
get
to
know
each
other
very
well.
So
my
door
is
my
cubicle
door.
G
To
you
all
feel
free
to
always
pick
up
the
phone.
Give
me
a
shout,
send
me
an
email,
I,
love
ideas
and
a
lot
of
times.
I
think
that
collaboration
is
the
way
to
go.
You
know,
like
you
guys
are
here.
You
live
here.
You
know
this
is
your
community
and
that
is
you
know:
I
I'm
quickly
falling
in
love
with
it.
But
I.
You
know,
I,
don't
I
don't
live
here
at
this
point,
so
you
guys
are
the
ones
in
the
trenches.
If
you
will
so,
but.
G
C
Yeah
our
plan
moving
forward
yeah,
we
did,
we
set
up
a
little
bit
of
a
transition
plan.
It
honestly.
We
talked
about
this
a
bit,
but
you
know
the
timing.
You
know
it's,
unfortunately,
Robin
moved
on.
You
know
she
was
dedicated
to
the
city
for
cert
for
sure,
but
as
far
as
timing
goes,
it
was
not
the
worst
time
to
have.
C
Looking
all
the
work
that
we've
already
established
and
making
and
jumping
straight
into
implementation
and
making
a
plan
for
that
for
how
to
start
tackling
these
action
items
and
getting
their
feet
wet
with
you
know
all
the
different
city
departments,
and
things
like
that,
so
we've
got
a
a
lot
of
things
that
we're
going
to
be
working
on
for
the
next
couple
months
to
get
Miss
Wilcox
up
to
speed
and
we're
really
excited
to
have
her
she's
gonna
brought
a
lot
of
energy
to
the
position
already.
That's.
D
Dory
said
Dory
was
at
a
meeting
in
Savannah
about
you
know,
grants
for
electric
cars
and
all
of
that
and
she
said
Robin
was
there.
G
G
A
Any
thoughts
on
that
one
thing:
that's
been
kind
of
burning
within
me
since
we
finished
the
plan
is
really
trying
to
figure
out
the
best
way
of
introducing
the
public
to
the
sustainability
plan
and
public
engagement
in
general
I
mean
the
city
can
be
doing
everything
it
can
to
be
sustainable,
but
I
feel
that
unless
we
start
to
evolve
the
thought
of
everyday
citizens
as
to
what
each
of
us
can
do
in
our
small
world
to
connect
with
the
larger
group
of
people
who
are
conscious
about
the
environment,
conscious
about
sustainability,
conscious
about
conservation,
you
know
all
of
the
all
of
the
factors
that
are
within
our
control.
A
G
Had
a-
and
this
is
this
is
I,
don't
even
think.
I've
mentioned
this
to
Tommy
either,
but
I
had
a
I,
I've
kind
of
been
tracking
a
little
bit
that
with
that
locally,
just
to
to
update
people
about
what
we're
doing
you
know
like
this
was
the
sustainable
plan
was
sustainability
plan
was
an
Endeavor.
You
know,
I
mean
it's.
G
You
know
almost
a
100
page
document
detailing
what
we
hope
to
do,
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
there's
not
a
good
like
engagement
session,
if
we
need
to
have
like
I
I'm
really
in
the
brainstorming
bit
here,
but
just
like
a
public
engagement
session
like
biannually
like
just
to
update
everybody
but
make
it
fun,
make
it
interesting,
maybe
even
make
it
like.
G
You
know
just
just
something
that
they
come
to
and
they're
it's
not
just
a
meeting
or
it's
not
dressed
like
a
town
hall
presentation,
but
something
they
can
engage
in
with
an
activity
of
some
sort,
make
it
friendly
for
for
kids,
because
I
I
I
very
strongly
believe
in
engaging
children
in
in
these
activities.
I
mean
that
they're,
who
we're
doing
this
for
in
all
reality,
but
also
who
are
going
to
step
into
our
shoes
at
some
point.
So
that's
just
something
that
is.
B
G
Of
and
we
can
talk,
we
can
talk
about
that,
but
I
I
am
on
the
same
page
with
you
and
would
love
to
see
something
come
of
that
as
far
as
yes,
a
formal
update,
but
also
like
an
engagement
session
to
make
it
fun
like
it's.
We
we
saw
a
lot
of
numbers
today
and
like
it's
great
and
we
need
those
and
we
need
to
know
how
we're
doing.
But
you
know
we
need
to
make
it
fun
for
the
average
person
too
I.
A
E
Immediately,
what
I
thought
of
when
you
said
engagement
was
engaging
with
the
kids
yeah
like
this.
We
have
our
you
know
three
middle
or
three
elementaries
Middle
School,
High,
School,
St,
Pete,
College,
St,
Pete
College
actually
has
a
environmental,
Club
I
think
that
just
started
up
cool
but
to
see.
If
there
are,
you
know,
science
classes
or
even
what.
C
C
Well,
I
think
we're
getting
a
little
bit
into
the
details.
I
do
got
a
private
referee
a
little
bit
here
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
Dory
and
the
other
committee
members
offered
to
weigh
in
too.
So,
let's
I
think
this
is
a
good
topic
Let's.
Let's
definitely
bring
this
back
to
the
next
agenda.
Certainly.
D
D
E
Phasing
it
in
it,
it
is
it's
not
going
to
be
like
flipping
a
switch
and
having
it
done
their
face.
They
get
in
over
time,
and
Tom
function
talked
about
the
reasons
behind
that
it
made
a
lot
of
sense.
I
can't
recall
what
they
were.
D
E
C
Think
we
could
definitely
yeah
that's
a
city
policy,
so
it
would
be
a
little
bit
of
ahead
of
ourselves
to
start
talking
about
in
detail
now.
We
can
certainly
bring
that
back
if
it's
still
timely.
Would
you
like
us
to
kind
of
if
the
ordinances
are
I
understand
that
the
the
committee
has
desire
to
have
some
sort
of
feedback
to
the
board
right,
like
potentially
I,
think.
D
C
A
report
yes
we
can
have,
we
can
bring
something
back
on
that
and
we'll,
and
maybe
we
can
talk
to
with
Denise
and
if
it's
sort
of
already
like
established
and
voted
on,
you
know,
maybe
we
could
save
that
topic
for,
like
you
know,
for
something
you
know
more
current.
Would
that
be
the
the
will
of
the
committee
or
would
well.
E
D
D
B
C
If
it's
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
you
know
the
time
depending
on
how
the
meetings
land
it
might
not
be
possible
for
you
all
to
take
some
sort
of
voter
on
that
topic.
But
everyone
here
is
a
citizen
and
if
and
there's
nothing
to
preclude
anybody
once
we
provide
an
update
from
providing
correspondence
as
individuals
to
the
to
the
board
or
the
city
manager
or
the
mayor
as
well.
D
G
What
day
of
actually
make
a
preparation
that
was
obviously
very
informal,
but
if,
if
that's,
what
you
guys
would
like
I
would
happily
make
something
a
little
more
formal
as
far
as
referencing
referencing
the
the
plan
and
that
sort
of
thing,
and
just
give
you
an
idea
of
like
maybe
how
I,
how
my
brain
is.
Processing.
E
B
E
B
B
D
E
A
To
make
changes
are
underway
all
the
time
and
we're
better
be
prepared
and
I
I
agree.
100
I
think
that
what
we've
been
waiting
for
in
the
interim
is
to
really
see
the
vision
of
how
the
sustainability
plan
will
launch
and
the
first
steps
of
implementation
and
how
we
can
best
support
your
efforts.
G
G
C
We
were
definitely
anticipating
bringing
that
as
an
item
like
relatively
soon,
either
October
or
November.
As
far
as
like
what
our
plan
is
for
like
implementation
phase,
so
we'll
we'll,
probably
try
and
bring
you
like.
A
minor
update
with,
like
maybe
like
a
I,
do
want
to
give
Jordan
some
time
to
get
her
hands
around
like
the
whole
city,
orc
structure,.
C
A
lot
of
the
action
items
for
year
one
are
through
will
require
quite
a
bit
of
collaboration
with
other
departments,
so
she
might
need
some
time
to
like
go
and
work
with
like
other
departments
and
get
to
know
their
timelines.
For
like
ordinances
and
the
comp
plan
and
like
opening
the
ldrs.
B
C
G
It's
really
just
like
Tommy
said:
I
I'm
kind
of
our
goal
for
at
least
the
next
couple
of
weeks
is
going
to
be,
as
his
schedule
allows
kind
of
introductions
to
everybody
within
the
city,
the
city
workings.
Just
getting
me
in
there
putting
faces
to
names.
Everyone
knows
that
there's
a
new
sustainability
coordinator.
G
They
just
don't
know
who
I
am
you
know,
and
so
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
want
to
do,
but
I
I
don't
want
people
to
to
see
my
name
pop
up
in
an
email
or
a
phone
call
and
be
like.
Oh
this,
this
green
girl,
again,
you
know
like
so
I-
want
them
to
understand
that
I'm,
not
just
always
going
to
ask
ask
you:
it's
going
to
be
they're,
they're
relationships
that
have
to
develop
here
so.
E
E
E
B
E
Yeah,
oh,
did
she
put
one
out
already
I.
E
G
C
C
Public
engagement
and
first
thoughts
on
sustainability
plan
implementation
for
agenda
items.
Great
okay,.
C
And
okay.
C
Yeah
I
do
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
transition,
we're
very
excited.
You
know:
we've
we've
given
Jordan,
quite
a
lengthy
task,
a
list
of
tasks
to
like
start
working
on
so
we're
gonna,
she's
gonna,
be
working
through
the
the
action
plan.
C
Looking
at
all
the
different
items
we've
already
reached
out
to
you
know,
some
other
we've
met
got
an
introduction
to
a
lot
of
sustainability
Professionals
in
the
area
today
in
our
living
shorelines
tour
she's,
going
to
be
working
through
a
lot
of
the
other
Regional
documents
to
get
a
grasp
on
like
what's
going
on
regionally
and
start
getting
herself
involved
in
some
of
the
you
know:
Pinellas
County
sustainability
networks
and
some
of
the
regional
sustainability
networks
and
we're
very
excited
and
yeah
she's
doing
great,
and
the
other
thing
we
did
want
to
share
is
we
had
a
great
trip
to
Felipe
park
today
to
just
to
do
a
living,
Shoreline
tour.
C
It
was
a
very
cool
project.
They
did
some
interesting
Pilots
with
different
types
of
oyster
beds
and
things
like
that
and
they
had
some
cool
Lessons
Learned,
and
we
took
some
good
knowledge
away
from
that.
On
you
know
how
to
implement
living
Shoreline
projects
as
like
a
kind
of
a
first
cut,
what
their
kind
of
Lessons
Learned
were
and
funding
opportunities,
and
things
like
that,
so
it
was
a
very
positive
experience.
G
G
So
it's
like
especially
fun
because
I'm
like
crawling
into
the
mangroves,
because
I
saw
a
horseshoe
crab
like
shell
and
it's
just
cool
stuff
like
that.
You
know
I'm
like
a
kid
again,
almost
like.
Oh
my
gosh
look
at
this
and
there
was
there
are
sponges
and
just
super
cool
things,
but
but
yeah
it
was
beautiful
and
and
really
they
have
done
a
great
job
of
a
multi-faceted
approach.
As
far
as
they're
looking
into
the
immediate,
you
know
two
to
five
years
to
try
and
increase.
You
know
the
oyster
population.
A
G
They
are
also
doing
studies
on
the
wave
current
strength
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
just
really
just
it's-
it's
all
tied
in
and
it's
all
applicable,
but
it
there's
some
long-term
data
that
everyone
in
the
area
will
be
able
to
utilize
and
and
that
sort
of.
G
E
G
A
Have
first
yeah
any
I.
D
Do
committee
continents
I
I
wasn't
going
to
be
given
what
we
talked
about
today.
You
know,
I'm,
Robert
and
I
are
having
a
show
called
circle
of
water
at
Florida,
Wildlife
Corridor.
It
opens
on
October,
14th
runs
through
January,
13th,
I
believe
and
one
of
the
things
the
sort
of
centerpiece
in
it
because
there's
the
60-foot
wall
and
it's
what
13
feet
high.
D
So
we're
doing
a
12
foot
high
10
foot
wide,
but
it'll
continue
on
map
of
Florida,
where
the
only
thing
depicted
is
all
the
water
and
there's
so
much
water
and
it's
we're
hand
done,
and
so
it's
to
look
at
how
and
it's
also
the
ocean,
because
most
of
our
work's
been
on
Ocean
and
the
gulf
and
the
warming
of
the
water.
D
But
now
we're
looking
at
the
relationship
of
the
ocean
to
the
water
inside
of
Florida
and
assault
intrusion
and
there's
so
I
keep
asking
about
brackish
water,
because
I'm
indicating
the
brackish
water
and
the
ocean
and
then
the
inner
but
I'm,
also
going
to
have
Al
Hein,
who
is
Emeritus
from
the
Marine
College
who's
written
books
about
the
geography
of
Florida
and
the
water.
And
he
and
I
will
have
a
conversation.
D
We'll
have
two
parts
and
all
about
this
issue
of
the
aquifer
and
salt
intrusion
and
what
to
do
and
intrusion,
Wells
and,
and
so
that's
very
exciting.
D
So
and
then
there's
other
stuff
stuff
about
all
the
ways
to
mitigate
and
absorbing
CO2.
That
will
be
in
the
show
and
it's
all
connected
with
Florida
Wildlife
Corridor,
which
is
all
about
protecting
Florida
and
making
sure
that
all
the
animals
have
ways
to
migrate
and
get
fed
and
contribute
to
to
the
the
state
and.
A
D
Is
the
show
going
to
be
Florida
Wildlife
corridors?
A
new
offices
are
in
the
factory
in
Saint
Pete,
which
is
part
of
the
art,
Warehouse
District,
it's
where
Fairgrounds
is
and-
and
they
are
opening
a
gallery,
so
they
built
a
gallery
will
be
the
in
in
inaugural
show.
For
that.
D
Gallery
and
they
have
Noelle
Smith,
who
just
retired
from
Contemporary
Art
Museum
she's
the
curator,
so
it's
so
I
mean
it
all
fits
into
what
we're
talking
about
with
the
water,
but
I
never
realized
till
I'm.
Making
this
map
how
much
water
is
in
Florida?
How
much
swamp
and.
B
E
D
B
E
I'm
just
wondering
if
we,
if
she's,
not
checking
in
or
watching
these,
virtually
or
whatever,
if
we
shouldn't
put
her
back
in
circulation
or
suggest
that
maybe
see
if
the
commission
can
bring
in
someone
who
might
be
interested,
who
could
be
present.
C
Paul
and
I
were
working
on
that
today.
We've
got
a
plan,
we're
going
to
be
discussing
that
with
the
city
clerk-
probably
tomorrow
maybe
one
day
so,
but
that's
that's
definitely
in
the
works.
A
And
I'm
sure
anybody
that
reads
the
beacon
might
have
noticed
there
was
a
guest
editorial
climate
Victory,
a
lesson
for
Florida
and
is
about
the
power
of
the
state
ultimately
residing
with
people
on
a
decision
that
happened
in
Montana
that
that
represented
the
youth.
You
know
to
have
a
right.
You
know
it
goes
back
to
something
that
Miss
Wilcox
was
mentioning.
A
You
know
regarding
policy,
you
know,
there's
there
are
courses
and
protecting
the
rights
of
Mother
Nature.
Yes,
and
this
was
really
a
fantastic
decision.
You
know
because
they
had
an
amendment
in
1972
to
the
Montana
Constitution
and
that
was
in
violation
of
the
young
people's
right
to
have
a
future
of
clean
air
and
clean
water
and
I
mean
I.
Don't
have
my
glasses
on
right
now
and
I,
don't
know
where
I've
put
them
so
I
can't
give
you
more
details
on
it,
but
it
was
from
two
papers
ago,
I
think,
and
it
was
it.
A
Very
encouraging
that
I
I
feel
a
lot
of
our
young
people.
If
we
could,
if
we
could
engage
them,
they're
going
to
get
on
board
and
we're
going
to
see
a
whole,
a
new
generation
of
really
people,
young
people
that
are
really
protecting
the
planet
for
future
generations
and
they
will
have
they
have
a
reason
to
I,
mean
they're.
A
D
I
was
at
International,
mall
and
I
and
I
was
buying
something
and
the
young
woman
who
checked
me
out.
She
looked
at
me
and
said:
you're,
an
artist.
Aren't
you
I
said
yes
and
she's,
and
she
said
well.
What
are
you
doing?
I
said
well,
I
make
art
about
climate
change
and
she
said:
I'm
Into,
Climate,
Change
I
want
to
know
all
about
it.
I
want
to
go
to
that.
Show
I'm
going
to
and
I
was
like
wow.
You
know
just.
D
B
G
A
step
versus
just
a
slippery
slope
to
slide
down.
B
D
We're
so
amazing,
if
we
can
get
a
new
person,
maybe
we
could
get
a
young
person
not
that
I'm,
not
young,
but
maybe
we
could
get
a.
You
know,
someone
in
college
who
would
like
to
be
on
our
committee
or
in
high
school
so
that
they
can
be
the
people
who
step
in
to
take
over.
C
I
think
we'll
be
sure
yeah
I
would
also
point
out.
I
mean
obviously
y'all
have
been
pretty
good
at
self
recruiting
to
the
committee,
so
whatever's
decided.
Ultimately
the
board
does
decide.
So
if
you
guys
have
you
know
folks
that
are
interested
or
that
you
know
you
know
once
if
we
get
to
that
point
where
we
have
a
membership,
our
opening
relatively
soon
you
know,
I,
would
definitely
reach
and
discuss
with
individual
board
members.
If
that's,
the
will
of
the
members
of
the
committee
is.
A
It
possible
for
people
to
put
applications
in
whether
there's
an
opening
or
not
just
so
that
there's
those
that
are
waiting
in
the
wings,
because
I
think
all
of
our
terms
are,
you
know,
had
expired
a
long
time
ago
and
we've
continued.
B
C
Do
believe
they
were
renewed,
so
I
think
we
can
have
that
discussion
with
the
city
clerk
they're
they're
in
charge
of
all
the
all
these
committees.
So
we'll
that's!
That's
a
good
question,
we'll
we'll
look
into
that
for
like
a
a
point
of
order.
Thank.
A
E
E
The
the
city
clerk
like
from
time
to
time
puts
out
announcements
of
what
committees
and
looking
for
members
are
just
kind
of
Stir,
It
Up
a
little
bit.
Let
people
know
we.
C
Can
definitely
have
that
discussion
I'm,
not
sure
what
their
policies
are
for
recruiting
right
now,
I
know
the
positions
they
tend
not
to
come
open.
Very
all
that
often
you
know
so
yeah
most
of
the
Committees
have
long
tenured
folks
for
the
two
three-year
memberships.
So
we
can.
We
can
look
into
that
process
for
sure.
B
A
All
in
favor
aye,
thank
you
very
much
for
being
here.
We.