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From YouTube: House - Agriculture Subcommittee - March 30, 2021
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House Agriculture Subcommittee House Hearing Room 3
A
B
A
Okay,
I'll
mention
that
the
division
of
natural
areas,
which
is
part
of
the
tennessee
state
park
system,
is
a
division
that
leads
the
authority
regarding
the
location
and
ecology
of
tennessee's
rare
species
with
experts
in
conservation,
biology,
botany,
zoology,
ecology,
natural
resources,
management
and
geographic
information
systems.
The
divisions
professionals
focus
their
efforts
on
monitoring
conservation,
restoration
and
management
of
tennessee's
native
species
and
plant
communities.
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee.
Presently,
the
federal
office
of
surface
mining
reclamation
and
enforcement
they
regulate
surface
mining
in
the
state
of
tennessee
of
the
23
states
with
surface
mining.
Tennessee
is
the
only
one
without
a
surf
estate
regulated
program.
So
in
2018
I
sponsored
the
primacy
and
reclamation
act
of
tennessee
directing
the
governor
to
state
oversight
of
the
surface
mining
control
and
reclamation
act
frequently
referred
to
as
primacy.
D
Since
that
time,
however,
the
administration
sought
an
informal
review
of
the
2018
act
from
the
office
of
surface
mining
reclamation
and
the
feedback
is
clear.
Some
changes
must
be
made
in
order
for
tennessee
to
receive
promising
to
receive
privacy.
The
office
of
surface
mining
reclamation
must
determine
in
their
sole
discretion
that
one
our
program
is
at
least
as
stringent
as
federal
law
and
two
that
the
state
has
the
financial
capability
to
administer
and
operate
the
program
to
advance
the
goal
of
the
2018
act.
D
This
bill
will
incorporate
the
feedback
received
by
osmre
by
aligning
the
program
more
closely
to
the
federal
smackra
or
surface
mining
statute.
This
alignment
is
most
efficient,
expedient
path
to
the
best
position.
Tennessee
can
get
to
to
receive
approval
and
of
mainta
and
maintain
a
state
surface
coal
mining
program.
With
that,
mr
chairman,
I
renew
my
motion.
A
A
A
You,
sir
we've
heard
an
explanation,
I
believe
of
the
amendment
and
we
will
continue
discussion
in
a
moment.
We'll
go
ahead
and
get
the
amendment
on
the
bill.
We
have
a
motion
a
second
any
discussion
on
the
amendment.
All
in
favor
say:
aye
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
amendment
number
one
goes
on
the
bill
representative.
You
have
any
anything
else
to
add
to
that.
A
B
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
first
off
my
apologies
to
the
committee.
I
have
not
been
able
to
get
around
and
discuss
this
with
folks,
like
I
had
hoped
to
some
of
you
may
remember
it.
However,
from
last
year
we've
got
the
food
freedom
bill
is
coming
back
to
open
up
opportunities
for
folks
that
wish
to
try
and
make
a
living.
If
they've
got
some
culinary
skills
wish
to
exercise
those
skills,
they
can
use
third-party
vendors
to
distribute
their
products.
Sorry
excuse.
A
A
E
Sir,
thank
you
for
that.
The
amendment,
as
I
recall,
takes
care
of
some
language
that
pertain
to
who
it
is
that's
producing
it
where
it's
produced
items
like
that,
so
that
any
consumer
any
end
user
knows
exactly
where
this
product
is
coming
from
then
you'll
have
to
forgive
me.
E
It's
been
a
little
while,
since
I
looked
over
this,
but
I
believe
that's
that's
where
we're
at
the
bill
is
as
simple
as
allowing
folks
to
to
make
and
sell
food
through
a
third-party
vendor
right
now,
you
can
sell
it
at
a
farmers
market,
but
you've
got
to
be
standing
there
doing
it,
which
takes
time
and
if
you've
got
the
ability
to
turn
out
more
product
and
not
be
standing
on
the
front
sales
line
by
all
means.
Let's
generate
some
dollars
in
this
state.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
sponsor
and
thank
you
for
bringing
this
I've
been
a
little
reluctant
in
past
years
of
not
making
sure
that
there
are
some
regulations
in
anything
we
consume,
because
you
know,
there's
not
only
the
fact
that
it
could
have
some
kind
of
disease,
but
the
chemicals
my
experience
have
been.
You
know
if
you
plant
certain
crops
and
spray
chemicals
there's
so
many
years.
C
You
need
to
wait
before
you
start
planting
any
kind
of
food
to
consume
it
because
it
all
gets
involved
in
in
the
soil
and
in
the
chemical.
I
I
guess
my
question
to
you
is
this:
probably
will
do
well,
but
at
any
point
in
time,
will
there
be
any
way
we
could
regulate
this
say
if
you
get
a
bunch
of
growers,
people
growing
stuff,
a
lot
of
people
already
grow,
but
more
people
that
don't
go
to
farmers
markets
and
all.
C
E
E
This
bill
doesn't
address
farming
practices
or
things
like
that.
This
is
more
about
what
is
it
that
you're
doing
or
now
I
hate
using
this
term?
The
government
allows
you
to
do
in
your
home
as
far
as
taking
materials
that
have
been
grown
on
the
farm,
turning
it
into
something
and
selling
a
finished
product
representative
shaw.
C
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
not
necessarily
against
your
legislation,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
things
in
focus.
I
know
I
was
told
I
go
to
this
urban
act
conference
every
year
in
iowa
and
they
talk
to
us
about
this
very
same
thing:
food
safety
and
said:
if
you
got
property
that
you've
I've
got
some
property
that
I
rented
to
farmers
to
grow
corn.
Cotton,
all
that
with
those
chemicals
in
that
soil,
don't
go
back.
If
you
don't
re-rent
that
property
next
year
to
the
farmer,
don't
you
run
and
start
planting?
C
A
lot
of
you
know
food
on
it,
the
garden
stuff,
because
the
chemicals
are
still
in
the
ground.
So
you
want
to
wait
so
long,
a
plant
beets
or
something
to
pull
it
out
before
you
do
that,
and
I
guess
I'm
just
wondering-
have
any
consideration.
It's
not!
I
know
it's
not
in
this
legislation,
but
have
any
consideration
been
given
to
that
type
thing
so
that
when
these
people
are
planting
these
crops
in
these
foods
they
don't
run
out
and
do
it
too
soon
and
have
something
with
chemicals
in
it?
C
E
Not
being
that
familiar
with
farming
practices,
I
can't
really
speak
to
crop
rotation
things
like
that.
This
bill
is
addressing
the
again
the
finished
product.
We
aren't
reaching
all
the
way
back
to
the
farm,
we're
just
trying
to
start
at
the
kitchen
and
go
forward
from
there.
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
chairman
lafferty.
I
just
wanted
to
say
I'm
a
big
fan
of
the
bill.
I
like
any
any
kind
of
legislation
that
introduces
more
freedom
into
the
marketplace
and
as
long
as
the
consumers
are
informed
on
the
decision
that
they're
making
like
I
think
more
freedom
is
always
a
good
thing.
F
Not
only
does
it
create
an
opportunity
for
the
producers
of
the
products
to
to
to
make
more
money
and
to
be
enriched
through
that,
but
honestly,
you're,
you're
enriching
the
the
consumers
as
well,
because
you're
you're
giving
them
access
to
products
they
otherwise
may
not
have
access
to
from
folks
who
may
not
want
to
do
you
know
all
the
the
licensures
and
that
type
of
thing,
but
like
as
long
as
your
consumers
are
are
informed
of
of
the
products
that
they're
purchasing.
F
I
think
it's
it's
a
great
bill.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
it
thank
you.
E
I
don't
I
do
have
someone
here.
That
is
an
expert
on
this
topic.
If
we
could
go
out
of
session
and
maybe
give
her
a
minute,
she
made
the
effort
to
come
here
and
I.
A
Was
gonna
ask
you
if
that
was
if
they
needed
to
if
it
was
just
in
case
they
they
were
needed
for
chairman
hawford
had
a
question:
do
you
want
to
ask
it
now
or
after
the
testimony
you're
recognized
okay
without
objection,
we'll
go
out
of
session
and
we'll
hear
from
a
witness,
we'll
recess
for
a
few
minutes
and
go
out
of
session.
G
G
I've
worked
with
senator
frank
nicely
on
bringing
many
farmer-friendly
bills
like
this
one.
I'm
a
great
friend
of
the
small
farmer-
and
I
very
much
appreciate
the
honor
to
speak
to
you
so
today,
I'm
going
to
address
house
bill
813
to
set
your
minds
at
ease.
I
guess
you
do
know
this
bill
did
pass
out
of
this
committee
last
year,
but
unfortunately
it
ran
out
of
time.
The
tda
and
the
department
of
health
have
worked
with
us
and
they
both
approve
of
the
spill.
It's
basically
the
same
as
the
older
bill,
except
it's.
G
G
It
would
increase
the
sales
of
these
nttcs
foods,
their
non-time
temperature
control
for
safety
foods
with
minimal
regulation
expense.
It
would
expand
its
there's,
a
huge
demand
for
locally
produced
foods.
As
you
know,
it
would
increase
access
to
the
local
foods
for
our
state
residents.
Homemade
foods
also
have
a
great
track
record
for
safety.
The
49
other
states
with
these
cottage
food
laws,
some
of
which
allow
the
sale
of
more
foods
than
this
bill,
would
do,
and
the
reports
of
illnesses
attributed
to
producers
operating
under
these
laws
are
almost
non-existent.
G
So
the
bill
will
also
keep
more
of
the
food
dollar
in
the
community
and
it
will
enhance
local
economies
under
this
bill.
The
tda
could
investigate
any
reported
food
illnesses.
Nothing
in
this
bill
impedes
the
state
from
investigating
a
foodborne
illness
outbreak
to
address
your
concerns
about
packaging
and
safety.
The
bill
does
require
the
homemade
food
to
have
a
label
on
it
and
on
the
label.
It
would
say
the
name
of
the
producer.
The
home,
address
the
telephone
number.
G
It
would
have
the
common
or
usual
name
of
the
homemade
food,
the
ingredients
of
the
homemade
food,
and
then
it
would
have
a
statement
that
says
you
know
like
a
lot
of
them.
Do
this
product
was
produced
at
a
private
residence.
It
is
exempt
from
state
licensing
and
inspection.
This
product
may
contain
allergens,
so
the
label
is
fairly
thorough
on
where
it
came
from
and
what
it
contains.
If
there's
ever
an
issue,
the
current
law
does
allow
for
the
sale
of
non-potentially
hazardous
foods
like
this.
G
The
same
definition
of
nttcs
foods
so
long
as
the
unlicensed
producer
doesn't
have
any
full-time
employees.
This
bill
isn't
changing
anything
all
that
much
except
expanding
where
the
foods
can
be
sold
and
allowing
the
producer
to
have
full-time
employees.
I
mean
why
not
so
just
to
remind
you.
This
bill
did
pass
out
of
the
committee
last
year.
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
help
me
out
with
the
part
that
that
covers
meat
and
poultry,
and
that
kind
of
thing
help
me
is
that
is
that
convenient?
Can
that
be
sold
fresh
or
does
it
have
to
be
frozen
or
or
and
if
it's
bro,
if
it's
so
fresh,
how
is
it
maintained
so
that
it's
safe
for
future
consumption,
chairman
laverty,
with.
A
E
I'm
sorry,
I
I
said
not
covered,
I
might
should
have
said,
not
included.
We.
We
aren't
looking
to
allow
folks
to
have
use
a
term
in
the
news,
a
wet
market,
if
you
will
to
open
it
up
to
meat
and
poultry,
we're
not
going
to
have
folks
slaughtering
chickens,
taking
them
to
their
grocery
store
for
sale.
B
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
did
hear
her
say
that
there
would
be
a
label
explaining
where
these
products
come
from,
or
what
household
or
whatever
oh.
So
that
means,
if
something
would
happen,
you
that
person
could
contact
that
particular
person
who
sold
it
to
him.
E
A
C
Thank
you.
I
know
I'm
out
of
order,
but
my
son
and
his
friend,
my
son
tracy,
I'm
gonna
call
his
full
name.
Tracy
rondell
shaw
just
entered
the
building
and,
of
course,
with
his
friend
michelle
tracy.
He
called
himself
on
the
radio,
the
baby
jock
and,
if
you'd
like
to
listen
to
him,
you
can
listen
to
him
on
saturday
mornings
on
our
radio
station
and
he
thinks
he's
better
than
his
dad.
A
H
The
bill
that
I
have
today
is
a
bill
that
addresses
a
need
that
I
think
that
we
are
increasingly
having
issues
with,
and
that
is
land
purchases
and
agriculture
in
tennessee
in
america,
and
so
what
the
purpose
of
this
bill
is
is
to
try
to
address
the
issues
that
that
we're
facing,
and
we
all
know
that
that
at
any
time,
foreign
entities,
if
they
own
a
great
deal
of
them
land
in
tennessee
or
america,
that
is
but
we're
just
addressing
tennessee,
of
course,
that
at
any
time
that
they
did
not
want
to
sow
that
or
farm
that
that
they
could
hurt
tennessee
and,
to
some
degree,
hold
us
hostage.
H
So
I
think
it's
something
that
we
have
to
address
sooner
or
later,
or
it's
going
to
be
addressed
for
us.
We
see
the
hostility,
that's
going
on
all
around
the
world,
even
in
our
own
country.
There's
division
going
on,
so
I
think
that
we
need
to
look
at
ways
that
we
can
address
taking
care
of
one
of
our
most
important
products
and
that's
food
and
the
livelihood
of
tennesseans.
H
We
had
to
take
care
of
our
own,
and
so
that's
what
the
intent
of
the
bill
is
is
to
address
the
issue
of
how
much
land
is
foreign
owned
in
tennessee.
How
much
can
be,
and
if
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
see
if
we
don't
need
more
tennesseans
or
americans
farming
in
our
country.
So
that's
just
kind
of
the
purpose
chairman
and
committee
of
this
bill
and
I'll
be
glad
to
try
to
answer
any
questions.
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
mr
sponsor.
Let
me
see
if
I
understand
this,
what
you're
saying
is
anyone
from
another
country
could
not
purchase
farmland
and
farm
here
in
the
united
states?
Is
that
basically,
the
principle
we
getting
to
chairman.
H
Sexton
it,
it
would
be
the
amount
and,
of
course,
I
realized
that.
There's
a
lot
of
questions
to
this,
and
I
do
understand
the
concerns
that
need
to
be
worked
out.
It's
not
that
they
could
not,
but
that
it
has
to
be
appropriated
in
such
a
way
that
it
does
not
have
the
larger
part
or
a
part
that
would
devastate
tennessee
and
hold
us
hostage
to
foreign
entities.
Foreign
companies
or
foreign
land
holders
represent
the
shop.
C
H
Causes
one
to
not
have
anything
to
eat,
we
have
to
put
our
hands
to
the
plow
and
we
have
to
plow
the
ground
and
we
have
to
sew,
there's
not
a
place
or
a
time
that
you
can't
find
that
there's
been
battles
and
disagreements
and
nations
align
with
one
another,
sometimes
they're
our
ally,
sometimes
they're.
Not
so
I
can't
love
my
enemy.
That
wants
to
do
me
harm.
H
That's
the
reason
we
have
laws
that
protect
us
from
one
another.
I
can
still
love
that
individual,
but
doesn't
mean
that
I
have
to
comply
to
their
agenda.
That
is
going
to
hurt
my
family
and
my
community
and
my
neighbors.
So
I
think
it
would
be
very
unbecoming
of
us
to
not
take
care
of
one
another
in
our
own
land.
C
Well,
I
won't
we
won't
get
into
that
running
discussion
about
the
bible
today.
This
is
not
the
time,
but
I
I
I
think
when
I
think
about
community
development
and
when
I
think
about
the
growth
of
this
country-
and
I
think
about
the
fact
that
let's
just
use
any
country-
let's
just
say
china-
china
might
want
to
bring
industry
here,
but
would
they
bring
industry
here
if
we
didn't
let
them
buy
land
to
farm?
If
they
wanted?
To,
I
mean,
would
that
not
be
a
conflict.
A
C
Well,
that
was
my
question
I
mean
if,
if
I
either,
I
didn't
hear
your
answer-
that
if
safe
china
wanted
to
make
car
ties
in
america,
we'd
probably
welcome
that
plant,
because
it
would
probably
bring
good
jobs.
What
have
you
and
I'm
just
using
china?
It
may
be
any
country,
but
then,
if
a
farmer
in
china
wanted
to
come
here
and
purchase
property-
and
we
deny
that
farmer
the
opportunity
to
purchase
a
property,
would
that
not
be
a
conflict
of
interest.
H
I'm
sorry
chairman,
yes
thank
you,
it
could
be,
but
at
the
same
time
I
think
you
would
agree
that
we
wouldn't
allow
china
to
come
here
and
buy
tennessee
and
that's
the
purpose
that
I'm
trying
to
bring
attention
to
is
we
don't
want
to
be
owned
by
china?
If
we
do,
we
might
as
well
sell
out
and
call
it
the
people's
republic
of
the
united
states.
H
We
have
to
preserve
our
country,
our
state
and
I'm
a
person
that
believes
in
states
rights.
So
I
think
we
have
that
right
and
obligation
to
look
and
see
who
our
neighbors
are,
whether
or
not
that
we're
aligned
with
them
and
yes,
whether
or
not
that
we
would
allow
them
to
purchase
our
property.
So
I
think
it
ought
to
be
left
up
to
the
state
and
to
tennesseans
and
not
the
federal
government
they're,
making
those
deals
all
the
time.
H
C
B
I
think
this
this
goes
to
more
than
just
farming.
I
think
it
goes
to
the
the
equipment
that
we
use
to
to
till
the
the
ground
and
to
make
our
farms
and
grow
our
produce
and-
and
things
like
that,
so
I
I
I
see
us
when
I
say
us.
I
see
the
united
states
going
to
other
other
countries
to
do
the
same
thing
that
we're
trying
to
stop
them
from
doing
now.
B
I
think
this,
I
think,
we're
part
of
a
global
global
economy,
and
I
think
we
have
to
realize
that
that
we
can't
be
a
an
isolationist
country
that
we're
going
to
have
to
reach
out
to
our
neighbors
and
our
our
friends
that
are
not
necessarily
on
this
continent
and
because
that
one
of
the
biggest
problems
we
have
is
producing
enough
food
for
the
folks
that
we
have
to
eat.
So
with
that
said,
I
won't
belabor
the
point,
but
I
I
I
can't
vote
for
this.
So
just
so,
you
won't
be
surprised.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
I
think
I
understand
exactly
what
you're
saying
you
know.
Communist
china
is
not
our
friend
in
fact,
even
as
we
speak,
they
are
they're
working
for
our
undoing
in
this
country
and
they
own
the
ports
in
san
fran
or
in
los
angeles,
already
the
shipping
ports.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
how
many,
how
many
acres
of
farmland
in
tennessee
does
communist
china
own
or
do
they
own
any?
I
I
don't
know,
but
I
do
understand
what
you're
saying
that
if
you
get
enough
foreign
folks
who
who
buy
up
farmland
in
this
state-
and
they
collectively
decided
not
to
grow
anything
on
it,
they
could
they
could
starve
us.
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying
one
of
the
groups
that
talked
to
me
yesterday
were
concerned
that
you
have
existing
foreign
companies
that
own
not
agricultural
lands,
so
much
as
a
business
or
a
plant
a
factory,
and
they
want
to
expand.
I
H
Thank
you,
chairman
representative,
halsey
you're,
exactly
right,
I
don't.
I
don't
have
all
those
issues
worked
out.
I
would
like
to
start
somewhere
and
bring
attention
to
it.
Every
everyone
that
has
commented
on
it's
made
good
valid
points,
and
I
don't
think
that
we
could
or
intend
to
take
out
foreign
interest
coming
in
and
working
with
them.
H
H
I
mean
personally,
I
wasn't
brought
the
bill
if
I
wasn't
ready
to
move
forward
with
it,
but
at
least
I
feel
we
need
to
make
an
effort
to
start
somewhere
and,
of
course
you
know,
I'm
I'm
open
to
suggestions,
but
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
feedback
from
members
on
the
committee
that
have
concerns
with
their
constituents
and
their
business
community
and
I'm
a
business
person
I
own
business.
I
know
I
know
their
concerns
and
I'm
not
unsympathetic
toward
it.
H
I
Thank
you.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
the
answer
to
this
or
not
I
just
do
you
know
what
percentage
of
acreage
is
owned
by
by
foreign
entities
in
tennessee
and
and
it
might
be
worth
looking
down
the
road
of
saying,
okay,
we
can
only
do
this
to
this
point
of
percentage,
maybe
be
a
solution
for
you
to
look
at
with
your
bill,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
know
that
number
or
not
chairman.
H
Sexton,
thank
you
chairman.
First
of
all,
I
do
not
know
the
answer
to
that.
There
was
a
constituent
that
brought
this
bill
to
me
and
I've
done
sparingly
research
on
it.
H
H
I
do
plan
on
working
on
it
further.
I
don't
know
what
the
extent
of
today's
outcome
will
be,
but
I
do
plan
on
getting
some
of
those
percentages
to
see
exactly
where
that
we
are
and
the
constituent
that
brought
this
to
me
in
his
rural
area.
In
my
district
he
was
just
seeing
so
much
of
the
land
being
bought
up
by
foreigners
that
it
was
causing
him
concern
not
just
for
farmland
but
just
buying
up
the
land,
not
doing
anything
with
it.
H
So
I
think
and
he's
not
the
only
one
that
I've
heard
from
so
I've
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
outside
of
business,
the
average
people
of
tennessee
at
least
that
I've
talked
to
they
like
this.
They
they
want
to
see
some
kind
of
control
put
in
place,
and
that's
that's
who
I'm
representing,
but
thank
you
chairman,
chairman
cochran,.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
representative
sexton,
I
was
gonna
say
I
understand
I
get
where
you're
coming
from.
I
think
you
know
I
I
think
the
concern
is
valid.
You
don't
want
a
foreign
entity
specifically,
you
know.
If
we're
talking
about
communist
china,
you
don't
want
them
owning
large
percentages
of
your
food
supply
or
being
in
control
of
that.
I
think
there
may
be
a
more
narrow
way
that
we
could
do
it
than
this.
F
But
I'll
tell
you
the
situation
in
my
district
when
our
largest
taxpayer
and
our
second
largest
employer
is
a
canadian-owned
paper
meal.
But
then
they
not
only
do
they
own
the
meal.
They
have
to
own
a
lot
of
acreage
for
their
trees
to
grow
those
trees.
And
so
you
know
my
concern
is
the
way
that
this
is
written
now
that
could
negatively
affect
them,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
I
I
understand
the
concern
and
I
think,
there's
probably
maybe
a
more
narrow
way
that
that
we
could
look
at
that.
F
I
think
one
unique
thing
about
you
know
a
communist
or
a
chinese
entity
a
lot
of
times.
The
government
is
involved
in
the
ownership
of
that
company,
and
so
maybe
we
could
look
at
it
from
that
aspect
as
opposed
to
a
german
or
a
canadian
company
where
typically
like
in
the
united
states,
those
those
companies
are
privately
owned.
F
So
so
maybe
there's
a
more
narrow
way
that
we
could
look
at
it
like
say
I'm
I'm
opposed
to
it
this
way,
just
because
I'm
afraid
it
encompasses
my
my
canadian
paper
plant,
but
I
just
want
to
say
I
understand
the
concern
and
appreciate
you
starting
the
conversation,
and
I
think
we
can.
We
can
look
at
it
in
a
more
narrow,
effective
way.
But
but
I
appreciate
you.
J
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
and
bringing
it
to
the
attention
you
know
in
our
part
of
the
world
echo
and
my
colleague,
you
know
with
agriculture
being
so
big
and
then
the
other
factor,
that's
huge
for
western
say
that
we're
constantly
working
on
and
having
to
work
through
obstacles
as
a
mega
site,
and-
and
you
know
this
the
way
it's
this
is
termed
it
could
throw
a
wrench
into
that,
and
we
have
enough
obstacles
anyway,
that
we're
trying
to
overcome
to
to
help
rural
west
tennessee,
but
but
I
do
think
it's
a
conversation
that
needs
to
be
had
and
and
maybe
there's
a
way
to
narrow
it
down
more
and
and
accomplish
a
goal
of
a
concern.
J
I
think-
and
I
could
be
totally
wrong
on
these
numbers,
but
I
think
to
answer
my
colleagues
question
from
earlier.
I
think
it's
somewhere
around
two
percent
of
the
the
land
owned.
Now
again,
I
could
stand
corrected
on
that,
but
but
I
did
want
to
say
that
I'm
open
to
having
more
conversations
moving
forward.
However,
that
needs
to
look.
J
J
We
can
juggle
and
I'm
open
to
continuing
to
look
into
it
to
see
where
that
line
might
be
if
we
can
find
one
so
with
that
said-
and
you
know
I'm
I'm
open
to
the
committee,
but
I
would
make
a
a
motion
to
move
it
to
a
summer
study
that
we
can
look
into
this.
J
We
can
have
some
discussion
or,
however,
that
might
look
whatever
we
can
do
to
continue
this
discussion,
because
it
is
a
concern
that
if
we
look,
if
we
don't
address
it
now,
we
could
look
up
in
10
years
and
it's
it's
it's
irreversible
and
we're
in
tough
shape.
So,
mr
chairman,
I
would
make
that
motion
and
at
the
will
of
committee
on
how
they
feel
about
that.
A
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
for
this
bill
to
be
studied
this
summer.
Any
discussion
on
that
motion
seeing
none
if
you're
ready
to
vote,
we'll
vote
on
the
motion
at
hand.
That's
to
send
this
bill
to
summer
study,
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Your
bill
will
go
to
somerset.
Yes,
sir,
be
recognized.
H
First
of
all,
I'd
just
like
to
say
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
hearing
the
bill
and
thank
you
for
the
discussion.
I
think
that
is
a
good
result
that
we
could
do
it.
It
at
least
keeps
the
discussion
moving
forward.
So
I
appreciate
you
listening
to
me
and
the
efforts
of
the
committee.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
K
You,
sir,
there's
an
interest
in
people
going
in
commerce
in
our
state
parks
and
natural
areas
with
kayaks
canoes
paddle
boards,
and
this
been
talked
about
for
about
a
year
or
so,
and
my
understanding
is
that
all
parties
have
come
to
an
agreement
and
the
people
want
to
do.
Business
would
obtain
permits
and
then
the
the
department
would
propagate
the
rules
and
set
a
fee
structure.
K
A
K
One
last
thing:
the
department
will
report
to
this
committee
once
not
later
than
march
first
of
every
year
and
the
summer
committee
in
the
senate
and
discuss
any
changes
of
procedure,
anything.
A
A
K
What
we've
discussed
so
far
is
what
I
talked
about
canoes
because
most
of
our
state
parks
have
lakes
in
them
and
canoes
kayaks
paddle
boards,
that
sort
of
thing
and
we've
had
a
problem
in
the
past,
with
the
clogging
up
the
boat
ramps
on
the
the
public
area.
So
a
lot
of
these
people
like
to
move
into
state
parks
and
natural
areas.
K
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
from
our
members
on
this.
If
you're
ready
to
vote
on
this,
we'll
be
voting
on
house
bill
887
as
amended
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
your
bill
moves
on
to
full
committees.
Thank
you,
chairman
and
members
house
bill.
1585
item
number
five
by
leader
camper
we've
been
asked
to
defer
that
to
a
calendar
next
year.
So
without
objection
we
will
defer
house
bill
1585
to
a
2022
calendar.
A
A
How
would
the
committee
like
to
deal
with
these
representatives
represented
reading.
B
Mr
chairman,
I
moved
house
bill
546
to
be
sent
back
to
the
clerk's
desk.
We
have.
C
A
We
have
a
second
without
objection,
we'll
be
voting
on
the
motion
to
send
house
bill
546
to
the
clerk's
desk,
all
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
house
bill.
546
goes
back
to
the
clerk's
desk,
we're
now
on
item
number
seven
house
bill
562
and
I
don't
see
the
sponsor
here
representative
reading.
Mr.
B
A
A
This
rewrites
the
bill
and
requires
a
tasker
study,
a
situation
that
we've
been
having
with
some
of
our
waterways,
where
they're
getting
overcrowded
with
paddle
sports
participants
and
fishermen
alike
and
others
using
the
waterways
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
complaints.
This
came
up
in
the
last
couple
of
years
and
there
was
legislation
discussed,
but
I
think
the
parties
involved
have
decided
that
we
need
more
information.
There's
not
a
lot
of
data
out
there
hard
data,
so
this
would
call
for
taser
to
give
us
that
data.
So
we
can
make
informed
decisions.
B
B
A
B
You,
mr
chairman,
and
this
is
a
result
of
a
a
committee,
that
I
was
on
a
task
force
that
I
was
on
named
by
the
governor
that
recognizes
ffa
and
that
association
for
the
good
work
they
do
for
agriculture
and
and
education
is
actually
with
join.
The
department
of
education
and
department
of
agriculture
together
to
work
for
the
better
good
of
ffa
and
agriculture
in
tennessee.
A
A
Seeing
none
this
will.
This
is
our
last
calendar
and
I'll
entertain
a
motion
that
we
adjourn
to
the
call
of
the
chair.
We
have
a
motion
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
We
are
jar.