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House Banking & Consumer Affairs Subcommittee House Hearing Room 3
A
A
Thank
you,
madam
clerk,
like
to
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
do
we
have
any
personal
orders
before
we
get
started
today.
If
not,
we
have
a
few
administrative
things
item
five
has
been
rolled
one
week
and
we're
going
to
go
a
little
bit
out
of
order
and
we're
going
to
have.
A
A
C
You
house
bill
112
deals
with
sub
contractors
and
subcontractors
they're
dealing
with
improving
real
property
in
the
state.
It
establishes
for
consistent
regulatory
authority
across
across
the
state
where
it
adopts
the
that
communities
that
impose
safety
requirements
beyond
osha
and
tosha.
They
basically
have
to
stay
within
the
regulatory
system.
That's
established,
so
it's
a
consistency
across
statewide
also
keeps
personnel
information
for
contractors
and
subcontractors,
meeting
state
and
federal
minimums.
So
what
this
does
is
this
will
provide
the
for
a
consistent
treatment
of
contractors
and
subcontractors
across
the
state.
A
Thanks
for
that
explanation,
sponsor
representative
thompson,
you
recognized
thank.
D
You,
mr
chairman,
I
mean
I
I
read
over
every
section
and
there
was
one
that
had
a
question
and
that's
the
ocean
tusha
one.
The
way
I
read
it
and
I
may
be
totally
misunderstanding
it,
but
it
says
that
a
local
government
can
exceed
osha
and
toshiba
rules
and
regulations.
D
A
C
You,
chairman
boyd,
I
apologize
sorry.
What
happens?
Our
contractors
are
subjected
to
an
extraordinary
amount
of
regulation,
keeping
consistent
to
where
we
believe
that
osha,
and
not
only
osha
but
also
the
tosha
standards,
are
substantial
in
and
of
themselves,
and
so
we
believe
that
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
see
that
be
the
consistent
model
that's
adopted
for
across
the
state.
D
I'm
I
don't
understand
hundred
percent,
but
I'm
I'm
satisfied
enough.
I
have
no
fault
on
it.
Chairman
vaughn.
Do
you.
A
A
A
E
You,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
house,
bill.
2004,
creates
regulations
and
requirements
on
the
operations
of
alkaline
hydrolysis
facilities
requires
the
operator
of
an
alkaline
hydrolysis
facility
to
receive
a
permit
from
the
department
of
health
for
restomation
of
human
remains,
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
A
E
A
Members
anyone
else
have
a
question
for
the
sponsor
of
the
bill.
If
not
members
we're
voting
on
item
number
two
house
bill
334
to
send
it
to
full
commerce,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
all
opposed,
say
no
eyes
have
it
chairman.
Your
bill
is
moving
to
full
commerce.
All
right.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee,.
A
A
F
You,
mr
chairman,
and
members
house
bill
188
you
may
have
heard
before
it
was
voted
on
and
passed
in
the
house
in
the
111th
general
assembly.
F
A
Thank
you
for
that
explanation.
Sponsor
members,
do
we
have
any
questions
I
actually,
if
no
one
does
I
have
one
chairman.
I
appreciate
that
you
you've
talked
to
me
quite
a
bit
about
this.
Would
this
cover
all
military
occupational
specialties
I
mean,
or
is
it
just?
Are
you
aiming
at
certain
fields
within
the
military.
F
A
A
A
A
What
I'm,
showing
too,
we
have
a
motion
on
the
amendment.
Do
we
have
a
second?
We
have
a
second
okay
sponsor,
if
you
want
to
give
us
an
explanation
of
that
amendment,
absolutely.
G
So
essentially,
this
one
rewrites
the
bill,
and,
and
basically
so
it
covers
an
obscure
type
of
utility
districts,
and
so
there's
not
there's
not
many
of
these.
It's
a
utility
board
that
is
jointly
owned
with
with
two
or
more
counties.
So
I
think
there's
it's
our
understanding,
there's
about
five
or
fewer
of
these
in
the
state.
G
Basically,
what
this
bill
does
what
this
amendment
does
is
it
brings
their
compensation
level
and
benefits
level
up
to
the
the
same
level
of
other
utility
districts
in
the
state,
so
municipal
utility
districts,
for
instance,
can
already
pay
up
to
300
a
meeting.
They
can
offer
their
board
members
the
health
benefits
that
their
employees
receive.
So
basically,
this
is
putting
everybody
on
the
same
page,
probably
15
years
or
so
ago,
when
the
code
was
written
for
the
utility
districts
and
the
municipalities.
G
A
A
A
D
A
A
H
Just
going
to
stay
right
here,
thank
you
chairman.
This
bill
that
I
bring
for.
You
is
from
the
tennessee
comptroller's
office
and,
basically,
what
this
legislation
does.
It
makes
government
work
better
by
removing
some
an
unnecessary
statutory
provision
in
the
definition
of
financial
distress
for
government
utilities.
H
This
bill
removes
requirement
for
pension
in
the
op-ed
activity
to
be
excluded
from
the
calculation
of
statutory
change
of
a
net
position
for
government
utilities.
Under
this
change,
utilities
will
no
longer
come
under
the
purview
of
either
the
utility
management
review
board
or
the
water
waste
water
financing
board
solely
for
the
funding
solely
for
funding
their
pension
and
their
liabilities,
while
utilities
that
need
board
assistance
will
be
referred.
A
Thank
you
for
that
explanation,
representative,
alexander
and
the
comptroller's
office
came
by
and
it
sounds
like
it's
a
good
piece
of
legislation.
Members
do
we
have
any
questions
for
the
sponsor
chairman,
vaughn
you're,
recognized.
C
Represent
representative
alexander
I'd
like
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
these
opeb
liabilities
that
are
changing
this
net
position.
So
if
you
could
give
me
a
rundown
of
the
impact
that
you
believe
that
that's
going
to
have
I'd,
I'd
really
appreciate
it.
Is
it
a
net,
positive
or
net
negative,
never
mind?
No,
no,
brilliant
response.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
answering.
A
A
A
I'd
like
to
call
this
meeting
back
to
order
and
we're
back
on
item
number
one
house
bill:
780.
leader
gant,
you
were
recognized.
A
A
second
and
leader
again,
it
looks
like
there
is
an
amendment
on
your
bill.
That
is
correct,
I'm
sure
in
drafting
code,
zero,
zero,
four
four,
eight
eight
is
that
correct.
A
I
Okay,
what
this
amendment
does
is:
it
adds
a
reporting
requirement
when
commerce
insurance
spends
funds
in
an
extraordinary
circumstance,
as
allowed
in
this.
In
this
bill,.
A
A
I
Another
amendment
was
a
technical
technical
change
made
to
section
13.
just
for
the
record.
I
Idea,
well,
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
we've
got
the
commissioner
here
that
wants
us
to
talk
about
the
bill
and
what
it
does
in
depth.
So
I'm
all
if
we
could
go
out
of
session
and
yield
to
commissioner.
A
Okay,
we're
gonna
go
out
of
session;
we've
got
commissioner
lawrence
welcome
to
the
committee
and
and
if
you'll
just
make
sure
your
microphone
is
on
and
state
your
name
for
the
record.
J
Absolutely
thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
carter
lawrence,
I'm
the
commissioner
of
the
department
of
commerce
and
insurance.
Thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here.
The
other
amendment
that
you
were
talking
about
drafting
code
4274
is
that
right.
J
Okay,
so
if
it's
okay,
while
they're
figuring
out
the
amendment,
would
you
want
me
to
talk
about
the
rest
of
the
bill
itself
or
do
you
want
me
to
stick
with
the
amendment
for
now.
J
Absolutely
okay,
yeah!
Thank
you
chairman
and
committee
members,
thanks
also
to
the
leader
for
carrying
this
important
legislation
really
excited
about
it.
I
am
excited
to
be
here
to
briefly
discuss
this
legislation
on
behalf
of
governor
lee.
I'm
really
thankful
for
him
for
inclusion
of
this
in
his
legislative
packet.
J
J
The
cumulative
effect
is
to
streamline
customers
interactions
with
government
and,
like
I
said
earlier,
I'm
proud
that
the
governor
is
supporting
this
effort,
so,
as
you
just
heard
from
leader
gantt
we're
making
numerous
technical
changes-
and
I
hadn't
planned
on
running
through
each
of
those
provisions,
unless
you
want
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
those
technical
pieces,
but
I
did
want
to
address
a
few
of
the
more
impactful
ones.
So,
first,
one
of
the
changes
will
streamline
the
licensing
process
for
solo
practitioners
by
eliminating
the
need
for
duplicative
licenses.
J
So
currently,
locksmiths
funeral
directors
and
scrap
metal
dealers
are
required
to
be
licensed
in
their
individual
capacity
and
also
as
a
firm.
This
bill
removes
that
duplicative
requirement,
meaning
that
a
person
in
business
as
a
solar
practitioner
would
no
longer
be
need
to
license
both
as
a
firm
and
as
an
individual,
so
the
result
would
be
savings
of
money
and
time
for
the
citizen,
who's
interacting
with
the
state.
J
Second,
the
other
change
that
I
want
to
mention
is
the
bill's
clarification
of
the
proper
use
of
the
regulatory
report.
Regulatory
reserve
funds,
so
without
changing
fnas
requirements
that
the
funds
be
used
only
for
non-recurring
expenses.
This
bill
will
allow
the
department
to
utilize
board
funds
to
benefit
licensees
of
the
board
board
administration
and
consumers.
J
Third,
educational
programs
related
to
the
board's
regulated
industries,
including
programs
regarding
consumer
awareness,
industry,
best
practices
and
industry
recruitment.
Fourth,
payment
of
legal
fees
and
related
costs
associated
with
legal
representation
by
the
attorney
general
and
fifth
and
finally,
other
initiatives
related
to
the
department's
strategic
plan.
So,
additionally,
working
with
fna,
we
can
make
expenditures
in
extraordinary
circumstances
which
would,
as
you
just
heard
from
the
amendment,
be
required
to
be
reported
to
house
and
senate
finance
committees.
J
So
these
sections
in
the
bill
will
not
change
the
long-standing
commitment
by
the
department
that
we
have
to
budgeting
and
spending
responsibility.
Additionally,
nothing
allows
us
to
use
reserve
funds
from
one
program
to
fund
the
operations
of
another
program.
This
has
been
our
our
practice
in
the
past.
We've
just
drafted
language
to
solidify
that
and
to
codify
that
practice,
and
also,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
this
will
not
be
used
for
covering
non-recurring
expenses.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
for
that,
for
that
explanation
of
the
the
bill
members.
Do
we
have
any
questions
for
commissioner
lawrence
chairman
vaughn,
you
recognize.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Mr
commissioner,
could
you
share
with
us
some
more
about
the
locksmith
provisions
of
this.
J
So
if
I
could
return
back
to
the
solo
practitioner,
part
where
we're
removing
the
duplicative
licenses
so
for
locksmiths
they'd
have
to
be
licensed
in
their
in,
they
currently
have
to
be
licensed
in
their
individual
capacity,
but
then
also
as
a
firm
for
a
solo
locksmith,
it
would
mean
that
they
would
just
have
the
one
license
as
it
relates
to
tdci.
J
This,
of
course,
doesn't
impact
any
of
their
local
business
licensing
requirements
just
what
we
deal
with
and
we're
just
trying
to
streamline
to
make
sure
that
people
only
have
to
have
one
touch
with
commerce
insurance
rather
than
multiple,
and
I
do
want
to
stress
this-
keeps
in
place
all
the
consumer
protections
where
we
have.
The
ability
still
to
take
action
against
licenses
remains.
Thank
you,
sir
chairman.
D
A
Members
do
we
have
any
more
questions
or
jabs
for
the
for
the
commissioner,
while
he's
here?
If
not
commissioner
lawrence,
thank
you
for
coming.
If
that
that
in-depth
explanation
there
members
we
are
going
back
in
session
leader
gant,
you
are
recognized
and
do
you
want
to
clarify
whether
we
got
the
right
amendment
there.
A
Members
you've
heard
the
explanation
from
from
both
the
sponsor
and
the
commissioner:
do
we
have
any
questions
for
later
gant?