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House Commerce Committee of the 2nd Extraordinary Session (A)- House Hearing Room I- October 19, 2021
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You,
madam
clerk,
before
we
get
started
today,
anybody
have
any
really
pressing
personal
orders
and
I
mean
they
must
be
about
to
make
you
pop
to
hear
one
glad
there
are
none.
We
know
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
great
deal
of
information
for
us
to
assume
and
for
us
to
actually
take
our
duties
in
the
manner
in
which
they
have
been
given
to
us.
This
is
a
great
deal
of
information.
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But
I
understand
too,
that
I
was
not
in
the
room
during
negotiations
and
the
ability
for
us
to
relive
those
moments
may
or
may
not
be
prudent.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do,
though,
as
far
as
a
a
little
bit
of
a
housekeeping
rule
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
set
a
rule
today
for
how
we're
going
to
conduct
this?
This
hearing
we're
going
to
hear
presentations
from
the
bill
sponsors.
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Then
we
will
have
let
ben
my
capable
analyst
here
know
if
you
have
questions
we're
going
to
do
this
on
a
manner
to
where
everybody
gets
a
fair
shot.
We're
not
going
to
have
anybody
hogging,
all
the
questions
you
may.
You
may
have
the
ability
to
ask
20
questions,
but
you're
not
going
to
ask
them
all
at
the
same
time,
because
what
somebody
may
else
may
have
the
same
exact
question
as
you
and
you
may
get
your
questions
answered
later.
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So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
call
on
folks
to
ask
a
question
and
you'll
get
one
follow-up
to
that
question
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
another
member,
and
so
that's
the
way,
we'll
conduct
this
hearing
today
understood
it's
exciting
times
by
the
way
that
doesn't
apply
to
me.
I
can
pontificate
and
follow
questions
all
I
want,
but
but
I
am
a
benevolent
dictator
so
so
this
is
a
a
great
opportunity
we
have
set
in
front
of
us
again.
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We
need
it's
our
duty
to
provide
the
due
diligence
for
the
people
who
sent
us
here
to
make
sure
that
this
the
structure
of
this,
this
board
and
authority
and
the
creation
of
it
and
the
reasons
behind
it-
are
easily
understandable
because
we're
making
a
great
investment.
We
we
think
we're
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
transformational
opportunity
for
my
end
of
the
state,
but
at
the
same
time
we
want
to
be
prudent
interaction.
So
our
first
item
of
business
is
house
resolution
or
house
bill
8001
by
leader,
lamberth.
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Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
I'll,
be
stepping
inside
in
a
moment
for
thank
you
I'll,
be
stepping
aside
in
a
moment
for
both
leader,
gantt
and
representative
hurd
will
be
the
presenting
sponsors
today,
but
I
just
want
to
kind
of
set
the
stage.
We
have
a
technical
correction
amendment
if
we
can
get
that
on
the
bill
before
I
step
aside,
it
is
literally
just
from
our
legal
department
we're
talking
commas
and
periods
and
grammatical
issues
that
should
have
been
filed
properly
and
on
time
with
the
committee.
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Say,
mr
chairman
and
again,
this
is
for
specifically
the
mega
site
authority
of
west
tennessee.
That's
what
this
is
labeled,
it's
the
mega
site
authority
of
west
tennessee
act
of
2021
and
that's
the
bill
that
is
before
you
today.
So
again,
representative.
We
step
in
a
moment
just
to
kind
of
talk
about
some
of
the
reasoning
behind
this,
and
then
leader
gant
will
be
talking
about
some
of
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
the
structure
of
this.
I
will
tell
you
that
I
appreciate
the
duties
of
this
committee.
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Mr
chairman,
you
have
run
an
extraordinarily
good
committee
over
the
last
year
and
appreciate
your
service
and
leadership
today
to
guide
us
through
this.
This
is
a
lot
to
wade
through,
and
I
joined
the
chairman
in
encouraging
us
all
to
ask
questions
and
make
sure
that
we
all
understand
exactly
what
this
is.
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Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
later,
I'm
just
going
to
take
just
a
second
to
express
the
impact.
This
has
the
opportunity
and
the
the
potential
impact
this
has
on
on
our
area
of
the
state
representing
the
district
there
of
the
82nd
district,
which
is
where
the
majority
of
the
acreage
lies
and
growing
up
there
and
living
there.
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My
whole
life
and
seeing
the
state
develop
around
us
and
losing
population
like
we
are
as
a
as
a
schoolteacher
for
14
years
and
watching
students
come
through
and
talk
to
them
about
jobs
and
potential
and
the
fact
that
they
wanted
to
live
in
that
area,
but
they
had
to
move
to
pursue
their
dreams
and
the
things
they
needed
they
wanted
to
do.
This
will
change
lives.
This
has
the
potential
to
change,
lives
and
transform
the
area
of
our
state.
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With
that
being
said,
I
do
understand
and
respect
the
fact
that
we
owe
it
to
the
taxpayers
of
tennessee
to
ask
the
questions
and
to
get
this
right
and
to
make
sure
it's
done
right
and
that's.
Why
we're
here
today
to
do
our
due
diligence,
and
I
respect
that.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
each
of
you.
I
look
forward
to
having
your
questions
answered
and
getting
everybody
comfortable
with
where
we
are
with
moving
forward
with
this
legislation.
So
thank
you
and
I'll
yield
to
later
again.
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Thank
you,
representative
hurt,
thank
you
chairman
and
committee.
This
is
a
obviously
a
historic
time
for
tennessee
and
especially
west
tennessee,
and-
and
I
want
to
first
start
out
by
thanking
the
many
people
that
played
a
part
to
get
us
to
this
point,
and
I
think
this
is
a
goes
back
to
a
20-year
project.
Going
back
to.
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So
what
I'm
going
to
do
at
this
point
I
mean
this
is
going
to
be
quite
lengthy,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
all
of
us
to
know
the
actual
facts
of
this
project.
So,
if
you'll
bear
with
me
as
I
go
through
these,
these
impact
projections
and
a
summary
of
what
this
legislation
does
and
then
we'll
kind
of
go
into
a
question
and
answer
period
of
time,
we've
got
the
administration
here.
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The
project
will
have
a
substantial
long-term
economic
impact
on
the
region
after
the
construction
period.
The
project
is
anticipated
to
generate
more
than
27
000
new
jobs
through
direct
project
activity,
as
well
as
indirect
and
induced
economic
activity
supporting
the
project's
operations
and
its
workforce.
This
will
result
in
more
than
1.2
billion
in
earnings
for
workers
in
the
region
on
an
annual
basis.
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Additionally,
the
project
is
projected
to
contribute
3.5
billion
each
year
to
tennessee's
gross
state
product
and
the
total
project
size
is
5.6
billion
investment
and
5
760
projected
jobs,
jobs
and
investment
and
property
split
between
ford
and
the
joint
venture
jv
partner
battery
plant
sk
innovation
is
assumed
to
be
the
jv
partner
battery
plant.
It
is
important
to
note
that
that
joint
venture
has
not
been
officially
formed
yet,
but
is
in
the
works.
Ford.
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The
jv
partner
and
the
other
suppliers
will
occupy
3
600
acres
of
the
total
41
acres
of
the
mega
site
to
make
up
the
what
we
call
the
blue
oval
city,
500,
acres,
separate
from
blue
oval
cities,
3
600
acres
are
still
available
at
the
memphis
regional
mega
site
and-
and
I
will
just
make
a
side
note
that
that
there's
no
specifics,
but
I
know
there's
other
projected
tenants
for
that.
Hopefully,
for
those
remaining
remaining
acres
there
in
fayette
county,
I
think,
is
the
remaining
portion
of
that.
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The
pilot
leases
with
purchase
option
of
3
600
acres
on
the
memphis
regional
mega
site,
additional
resources
included
in
the
memorandum
of
understanding
from
existing
funding,
not
in
the
new
appropriations
bill,
and
they
are
as
follows:
2
million
grant
for
electric
vehicle
related
workforce
development,
tdec
21
million
in
kind,
not
a
grant
workforce
support
such
as
job
fairs
and
screening
federal
funding
that
will
pass
through
as
well
400
million.
For
I
mean
four
hundred
thousand
for
rev
grant
to
to
from
the
ornl.
F
The
rev
grant
program
at
ornl
was
supported
by
state
funding
to
help
communities
with
high-tech
business
innovation
state
to
act
as
the
industrial
development
board,
which
we
call
the
mega
site
authority
to
collect
pilot
payments.
Pilot
payments
are
locked
in
for
30
years
for
ford
and
jv
partner
battery
plant.
All
pilot
payments
delivered
to
local
governments
for
infrastructure,
schools,
safety
and
health
care,
et
cetera.
F
The
payments
represent
a
property
tax
abatement
of
approximately
75
percent,
meaning
that
ford
and
jv
partner
will
be
responsible
for
25
of
the
actual
annual
property
tax
bill
would
ordinary
or
that
would
ordinarily
be
and
there's
a
scale
from
1
to
30
years
of
how
much
the
pay
payout
is.
The
second
year
starts
at
1
million
and
through
a
sliding
scale
up
to
30
years
goes
to
11
million
500
000
payout
per
year.
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F
The
accountability
of
this
project,
based
on
500
million
capital
grant
and
175
million,
agreed
upon
value
of
memphis
regional
mega
site
land
improvements,
ford
and
jv
partner
must
hire
and
maintain
at
least
90
percent
of
5760
jobs
on
the
10th
anniversary
date
of
the
accountability
agreement.
To
avoid
what
we
call
clawbacks
grant
jobs,
accountability
will
be
split
between
ford
and
jv
partner,
with
details
of
the
split
to
be
determined
in
the
near
future.
The
pilot
has
separate
accountability.
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After
10
years,
pilot
payments
will
increase
if
the
number
of
jobs
decrease
state
is
protected
against
bank
bankruptcy
for
10
years,
state
remains
retains
ownership
of
the
land
and
buildings.
If
ford
and
jv
partner
fails
to
perform
under
the
accountability
agreement
and
or
declares
bankruptcy,
and
at
this
point
I'll
open
it
up
to
some
questions
and
we'll
try
to
you
know
field,
and
if
you
want
to
call
up.
Mr
chairman
call
up
the
administration,
we
can
go
from
there.
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A
But
my
question
is:
why
are
we
here
explain
to
us
why
we're
here
in
a
special
session,
to
discuss
the
formation
of
an
authority
board
when
the
joint
venture
partnership
has
not
yet
signed,
has
not
yet
made
we're
here
to
grant
extraordinary
powers
to
an
entity,
but
yet
our
joint,
the
joint
venture
partners
on
the
manufacturing
side,
there's
caveats
that
they're
not
they
haven't
made
yet.
So
I
would
ask
number
one.
The
first
question
is,
I
understand
the
appropriation
of
the
dollars
making
sure
that
that
this
this
legislature
is
comfortable.
A
A
Why
do
we
need
to
get
this
authority
established
during
this
special
session?
Again,
I
understand
the
appropriation
of
dollars
because
right
now,
apparently
we're
operating
off
a
memorandum
of
understanding,
there's
no
contracts
out
there,
but
that's
one
of
my
issue.
That's
my
first
question
is
why
the
suddenness
for
this
special
session
number
two:
what
happens
if
sk
and
ford
don't
reach
agreement,
because
you
know
people
get
hit
by
trains,
things
happen
along
the
way
and
they
don't
always
they
don't
always
happen.
The
way
that
we
want
them
to.
A
A
Excuse
me
if,
whenever
we're
going
to
relax
a
little
bit
of
the
protocol,
because,
frankly,
I'm
not
real
great
at
it
anyway,
so
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
whenever
one
of
you
all
figure
out,
which
one
is
the
best
person
to
answer
a
question.
Just
tell
everybody
your
name.
We
all
know
who
you
are,
but
for
the
record
just
share
your
name.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
G
Sir,
so,
mr
chairman,
my
name
is
bobby
roth
and
just
to
begin
the
conversation,
it
was
our
team
at
ecd
that
negotiated
this
memorandum
of
understanding,
and
so
please
know
that
while
it's
not
a
perfect
memorandum
of
understanding,
this
was
a
team
of
12
people
inside
of
ecd.
That
worked
around
the
clock
for
about
30
days
to
bring
forward
to
the
state,
hopefully
a
framework
to
approve
a
significant
transaction.
G
So
as
with
respect
to
any
questions
or
that
you
have
about
what
is
in
the
mou
and
how
it
came
together,
we'll
certainly
be
prepared
to
answer
that.
Having
said
all
of
that,
I
can
promise
you
one
thing:
we
hired
the
best
council,
we
were
so
thoughtful
every
decision
we
negotiated,
and
this
was
a
business
negotiation
just
like,
as
you
mentioned,
a
real
estate
transaction.
G
G
So
the
short
answer
is
ford.
Motor
company
is
in
an
enormous
hurry,
as
is
every
other
company.
That's
trying
to
build
out
either
the
electric
vehicle
and
or
the
electric
vehicle
parts
and
the
greatest
component.
The
most
important
significant
component
of
an
electric
vehicle
are
the
electric
batteries.
G
Sk
is
a
great
korean
company.
We
have
recruited,
we've
known
them
for
years,
we've
been
open
over
there
to
south
korea
to
meet
with
them.
So
we
know
this
group
where
sk
plays
such
a
significant
part
is:
they
are
the
intellectual
property,
the
r
d,
the
research
behind
this
battery-
that's
so
critical
to
vehicle
for
years.
If
a
car
was
able
to
travel
100
miles,
and
then
it
took
eight
hours
to
recharge
that
was
really
a
non-starter
for
so
many
consumers.
G
What
we
again,
I'm
not
sure
this
is
how
we
would
move
forward
with
a
transaction
like
this,
but
I
can
also
point
to
our
experience
with
general
motors
when
they
did
their
joint
venture
for
their
battery.
These
were
the
same
optics.
They
had
a
great
joint
venture
partner,
lg
lg
energy,
and
they
did
not
negotiate
their
joint
venture
really
until
they
made
their
announcement.
So
I
don't
have
enough
great
reasons,
but
I
can
promise
you
not.
A
dollar
will
be
spent
or
given
or
provided
to
that
joint
venture.
G
A
Thank
you,
chairman,
parkinson,
the
and,
and
I
I
understand
that
and
and
let
me
say
you
guys
are
prose
pros.
We
understand
that
I'm
I'm
trying
to
get
to
to
the
what's
the
rush
for
the
formation
of
this
entity,
because
even
in
the
in
the
amendment
itself,
it
somewhere
back
here
and
excuse
me
for
not
having
it
underlined.
A
It
points
out
that,
in
the
absence
of
this
mega
site
authority
convening
and
passing
its
organizing
resolution,
then
the
interim,
the
department
of
general
services
has
these
same
authorities.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
why
we're
in
a
rush
to
to
create
a
government
state
government
quasi-governmental
entity
that
that
we
understand
on
the
private
business
side
that
we
can
say
hey
these,
these
folks
they're
trying
to
get
they're
they're,
still
negotiating
we're
kind
of
out
of
the
negotiating
realm.
A
At
this
point,
it
seems
to
me-
and-
and
I
don't
want
you
to
think-
that
we're
sitting
here
being
critical
of
y'all's
y'all's
negotiations,
because
I
hate
having
somebody
over
looking
over
my
back
I'm
trying
to
get
to
this
formation
of
this
authority,
how
it
evolved
into
what
it
is
and
the
thought
process
behind
that.
That's
where
that's
to
me
out
of
all
of
that.
That's
one
of
my
issues
with
this,
because
it
seems
as
they're
getting
extraordinary
powers.
A
It
may
be
just
a
demonstration
of
why
state
governments
don't
need
to
be
real
estate
developers,
but
that's
another
topic
for
another
day.
That's
my
point
is
that
it
appears
like
we
even
have
a
back
up
in
the
back
of
this
organ,
this
agreement
or
this
resolution
or
bill
that
the
work
can
still
be
done
with
general
services
standing
in
the
stead.
Or
am
I
misunderstanding
that.
H
For
I
got
it,
can
you
hear
me
all
right
now?
First
of
all,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
thank
you
and
thank
this
body
thank
this
committee
for
the
work
that
that
you
you're
putting
into
this
and
the
work
that
you
do
so.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today
to
answer
all
your
questions
as,
as
has
already
been
said,
this
is
truly
a
a
generational
investment
or
multi-generational
investment
that
we'll
see
coming
into
tennessee.
So.
H
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
butch
eagley
fna,
so
yeah.
Thank
you
for
that.
Sorry
about
that,
but
I
I
do
think
part
of
it
is
to
your
point,
is:
is
showing
good
faith
to
to
to
ford
motor
in
in
their
belief
in
tennessee,
and
that
we
can
carry
out
what
we
said
we
would
carry
out,
and
so
I
think
that
that
is
certainly
part
of
it,
but
also
as
you
as
you
kind
of
pointed
out,
from
the
dimension
of
general
general
services
being
able
to
move
forward.
H
This
month
in
in
trying
to
you,
know,
start
their
project,
and
so
we
simply
need
to
get
moving
to
go
through
our
channels
to
be
able
to
get
before
the
building.
Commission
and
do
the
things
that
we
need
to
get
approved
from
the
building
commission
to
be
able
to
carry
out
kind
of
our
side
of
the
deal
to
be
able
to
be
ready
for
them
to
do
what
they
need
to
do.
And
I
think
that's
the
short
answer.
A
You
excuse
me
before
I
hear
from
commissioner
roth,
the
the
section
that
I'm
was
referring
to
in
the
agreement
or
in
the
house
bill.
The
commissioner
of
general
services
may
exercise
all
powers
granted
to
the
authority
pursuant
to
this
act
from
the
effective
date
of
this
act
until
the
date
on
which
the
board
of
directors
assumes
active
control
of
the
mega
site
authority.
A
So
it
seems,
like
we've,
got
a
backstop
before
the
creation
of
this
authority
anyway,
that
to
where-
and
I
understand
it's
going
to
be
a
huge
mass
grading
project,
there's
there's
all
kinds
of
things
to
be
done
out.
That's
a
lot
of
dirt
to
be
moved,
and
we
understand
that
again.
It's
just.
I
find
it
curious.
We've
we've
had
the
we've
seen
this
now
for
about
72
hours
and
I'm
just
curious
as
the
rush
of
why
this
authority.
A
This
seems
to
be
something
that
if
we
appropriated
money
and
and
again-
and
this
is
just
a
you
know-
somebody's
told
us
we're
going
to
disney
world
we're
all
excited.
But
then
people
told
us
the
route
we
were
going
to
take
there
and
it's
you
know
you
have
to
stop
and
see
if
that's
the
best
way
to
go,
but
that's
that's
a
question
that
that
I
have
through
this
process,
because
this
it
I
unders
these
are.
A
It
seems,
as
reading
this
this
bill,
that
these
are
issues
that
we're
imposing
upon
ourselves
from
the
owner's
standpoint
from
the
owner's
representation
standpoint
that
ford
we've
we've
negotiated
a
deal
where
the
money.
Well,
I
again,
I
think
the
roi
speaks
for
itself
and
I
and
I
look
forward
to
supporting
the
appropriations
bills.
You
know
tomorrow,
hopefully,
if
it
comes
through
finance,
but
I'm
just
curious
about
that.
This,
that's
the
one
thing
that
gives
me
the
greatest
pause
in
this
entire
thing
that
we're
doing.
G
Yes,
sir,
so
again
bobby
roth,
the
context
behind
what
you're
asking
is
ford
motor
company
wanted
to
deal
with
an
entity.
This
is
a
state
asset
and
like
it
or
not,
the
state's
responsible
for
providing
utilities
which
puts
general
services
in
a
very
different.
This
is
really
what
they
don't
do
and
some
would
say
the
state
doesn't
belong
in
the
industrial
site
business
or
the
industrial
park
business.
G
G
It
is
a
local
community
body
of
leaders
that
don't
have
the
authority
to
spend
a
dollar
and
don't
have
a
budget,
and
so
what
we
thought
made
the
most
sense
is.
It
is
a
state
asset
where
the
state's
going
to
be
putting
a
billion
dollars
at
risk,
and
so
we
wanted
that
to
fold
up
underneath
the
state
and
all
of
the
obvious
people
that
will
be
responsible
and
at
the
same
time
we
had
recommended
it
be
nimble
and
agile
and
that's
how
that
those
ideas
bubbled
up.
G
G
So
I
wanted
to
just
share
that
with
you
and
make
sure
that,
on
behind
the
context
of
how
we
got
here,
that
was
one
of
the
drivers
that
the
state
looked
like
acted
like
one
of
the
most
buttoned
up,
and
I
think
that
was
the
big
game
changer.
To
put
the
state
of
tennessee
well
above
those
other
states
that
they
looked
at
and
I'll
defer.
I
Good
morning
I'm
erin
merrick
from
governor
lee's
legal
office.
I
want
to
reiterate
the
points
that
commissioner
rolfe
stated,
and
the
way
I
would
think
about
the
authority
is
that
it
is
sort
of
the
essence
of
this
one-stop
sharpness
that
was
so
critical
and
so
important
to
ford.
This
is
a
state
asset
and
therefore
we
needed
one
state
entity
to
be
responsible
for
the
management
of
all
assets
and
having
those
the
various
powers
here
vested
in
the
authority
allows
us
to
achieve
that
goal.
That
was
essential
to
making
this
deal
happen.
I
There
is,
of
course,
going
to
be
some
lag
time,
as
the
non-ex-officio
members
of
the
board
are
appointed
their
opportunities
to
to
come
to
town,
have
their
organizational
meetings
and
do
all
of
the
things
that
are
necessary
and
customary
to
find
out
who
those
people
are
and
and
what
they're
going
to
be
doing.
So
that's
the
reason
for
the
particular
section
that
you
have
highlighted
chairman,
but
the
idea
is
to
move
forward
with,
with
all
due
haste,
to
have
the
board
really
assume
all
of
these
roles.
H
H
I
mean
we're
proceeding
as
quickly
as
possible,
because
that's
what
ford
expects
and
would
like
to
see
happen
is
that,
as
it
comes
to
us
being
able
to
execute
on
what
they
are
expecting
us
to
do,
and
so
they
certainly
expect
in
and
would
appreciate
us
moving
forward
as
quickly
as
possible
in
order
to
be
able
to
to
allow
them
to
do
what
they
need
to
do
to
execute
on
what
they
want
to
do
and
what
we
want
to
see
happen.
So,
thank
you,
mr.
A
Chairman,
thank
you,
sir
I'll.
Ask
one
more
question.
Then
I'm
going
to
let
someone
else.
If
you
again,
if
you've
got
questions,
please
please
get
ben's
attention
to
get
on
the
list,
and
I
understand
the
the
reason
that
that
this
would
be
difficult
for
county
authorities
to
to
manage
particularly
the
scale
of
it.
The
fact
that
it
crosses
county
lines,
there's
there's
a
number
of
reasons.
A
Why
that's?
Why?
Having
a
board
or
a
body
like
this
makes
some
sense
and
and
I
I
can
see
the
wisdom
behind
having
somebody
as
basically
the
owner
of
the
site,
we
can't
put
it
out
to
referendum,
to
all
7.6
million
of
us
to
see
if
this
is
a
great
idea
when
something
needs
to
be
done
at
the
mega
site.
So
I
understand
that
my
my
question
is
just
this.
A
It
seems
like
we're,
in
a
midst
of
undue
haste,
to
set
up
a
really
extraordinarily
powerful
board
kind
of
in
a
very
short
period
of
time,
whenever
we
have
other
things
that
other
implementation
mechanisms
to
make
sure
that
contractors
are
out
there
on
that
site.
Putting
the
work
in
that
needs
to
be
done
so
that
they
can
continue
to
to
come
here.
Because
then
you
know,
let's
make
no
bones
about
it.
A
We
we're
very
excited
about
them
coming
here,
but
I
would
hope
that
they
would
understand
too,
that
the
in
our
role
as
that
they're
trading
with
people
who
take
their
jobs
seriously
and
then,
when
we,
when
we
give
them
the
commitment
that
we're
not
just
a
rubber
stamp
body,
that's
going
to
go
through
and
and
agree
to
everything
that
that
come
is
presented.
And
I
know
that
puts
you
all
in
tough
tough
position
as
negotiators.
A
But
at
the
same
time,
we
certainly
want
to
make
sure
that
they
understand
that
we
take
our
jobs
seriously
and
as
their
corporate
citizens
of
the
great
state
of
tennessee,
that
they
will
have
the
same
amount
of
support
for
us
and
that
other
their
competitors
will
have
experienced
the
same
review
and
concerns
whenever
they
have
a
job
and
but
basically
that
they're
treated
fairly
and
thoughtfully
and
with
that
I'll
hush
for
a
moment
until
my
brain,
recharges
and
I'll.
Think
of
some
other
fantastic
questions.
J
Thank
you
chairman,
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
I'm
extremely
excited
about
this,
this
proposal
and
and
think
it's
gonna
be
great
for
our
state.
I
heard
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
during
negotiations
that
ford
was
requesting
or
demanding,
or
I
don't
I'm
saying
that
I'm
not
putting
those
words
in
your
mouth
necessarily
to
to
have
a
smaller
body,
and
maybe
a
a
state-wide
body.
J
Are
you
saying
that
that
unless
we
remove
that
local
control
or
the
existing
body
that
this
deal
won't
happen,
or
is
that
there
I
mean?
Do
we
have
negotiation
ability
to
keep
the
local
control
to
keep
these
these
local
county
and
city
mayors
that
again
it's
in
their
backyard
and
keep
the
body
more
of
a
makeup
as
it
as
it
currently
exists?
Thank
you.
G
G
So
that
was
the
mindset
behind
that.
The
challenge
with
the
local
community
is
that
ford
motor
company,
when
it
came
to
getting
any
and
all
permits
the
local
communities
just
are
under.
They
do
not
have
the
capacity
to
provide
on
a
timely
basis,
various
local
permits
required.
So
again
that
would
fall
to
the
state
to
be
responsible
for
the
permitting
and
that's
t
deck
and
then
in
the
state
fires.
G
Marshall
would
be
responsible
for
some
of
the
the
permitting,
with
with
respect
to
some
of
the
construction
and
then
is
again
what
made
this
such
a
challenge
is.
The
state
this
site
has
no
water
and
no
waste
water,
and
until
now
we
were
unsuccessful
in
recruiting
a
company
to
come
to
the
mega
site,
but
for
the
fact
that
the
state
and
the
leadership
and
the
general
assembly
made
the
decision
to
move
forward
with
additional
funding.
G
Thanks
to
your
your
blessings
and
dollars
has
to
deliver
a
water
and
a
wastewater
utility
and
again
there
was
nobody
locally
that
had
raised
their
hand
that
had
the
balance
sheet,
the
wherewithal
the
capacity
to
deliver,
4.6
million
gallons,
a
day
of
wastewater
and
certainly
the
balance
sheet
to
handle
those
local
utilities.
So
that
was
part
of
the
conversation
as
well.
J
I
Of
course,
we're
very
concerned
about
the
local
involvement
as
well,
because
the
locals
are
critical
partners
in
making
this
happen.
The
way
we've
accounted
for
that
in
the
legislation
and
the
amendment
that
that
was
put
on
moments
ago,
is
that
the
according
appointing
authorities,
which
would
be
the
governor
and
the
two
speakers
in
this
case,
are
required
to
consult
with
the
locals
about
who
is
the
best
to
serve
them
as
board
members.
A
A
I
know
who
appoints
it,
but
who
this
mega
site
regional
authority
board
who
do
they
answer
to,
because,
if
they're
appointed
by
a
variety
of
different
means
and
mechanisms
that
I
see
in
here,
it
seems
and
again
could
you
define
whether
they're
governmental
quasi-governmental
and
of
souped-up
idb?
What
exactly
is
this
group
we're
calling
on
and
once
you
answer
that
miss
merrick
we'll
go
to
representative
parkinson.
I
Great,
thank
you.
So
this
structure
of
having
the
authority
be
administratively
attached
to
general
services,
similar
to
what
we
see
proliferating,
state
government
with
with
our
health
boards
with
our
dci
boards
with
things
like
that,
it's
a
it's
an
entity
that
is
subject
to
our
sunset
review.
It
is.
It
is
similar
to
things
that
you've
seen
in
those
other
environments
where
you
have
an
independent
board
with
its
own
independent
board
members,
but
is
administratively
attached.
So
it
is.
A
All
right
and
thank
you
and
and
who,
would
you
say
that
they
answer
to,
or
I
guess,
through
confirmation
hearings,
whether
or
not
people
are
approved?
What's
the
what
happens
if
they
go
and
they
start
making
questionable
decisions
that
negatively
affect
people
in
the
area
that
what
is
what's
anybody's
redress?
I
There's
a
removal
for
cause
provision
for
members
who
are
nah
going
off
the
reservation
in
one
way
or
another,
and
that
can
be
exercised
by
the
rest
of
the
board
members
and
the
governor
as
well.
So
as
far
as
how
that
how
that
sort
of
removal
is
triggered
for
cause
is
the
is
the
primary
oversight
available
there.
D
Later
lambert,
mr
sheriff,
I
made
directly
to
your
question.
This
board
will
answer
to
this
body
period.
I
want
to
make
no
beans
about
that.
I
mean
when
they
come
through
the
gov
ops
process
on
sunset.
They
will
not
be
treated
any
differently
than
any
other
entity.
That
is,
and
I
can
assure
you
any
entity
that
has
ever
gone
through.
D
That
process
knows
that
our
gov
ops
committee
is
extremely
thorough
and
if
there's
any
shenanigans
or
really
kind
of
poor
decisions
on
them
on
this
particular
entity,
they
will
suffer
the
wrath
of
our
government
ops
committee
and
I
know
the
folks
on
that
committee.
I
serve
on
that
myself
and
they
don't
put
up
with
anything
untoward.
D
So
I
am
really
pleased
that
this
is
in
the
sunset
cycle
and
I
would
encourage
this
new
entity
to
talk
to
some
of
the
ones
that
have
been
in
existence
for
quite
some
time
and
to
toe
the
line
and
do
exactly
what
this
body
has
asked
them
to
do.
So,
just
a
a
to
be
a
direct
answer
to
your
question,
mr
chairman,
that's
who
they
answer
to
is
to
us.
A
Thank
you,
sir.
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
fortunate
that
I
don't
have
to
appear
before
that
body
in
my
daily
business
dealings,
but
I
will
say
this
as
a
practical
matter
of
it
is
at
some
point
in
time
we're
going
to
be
giving
birth
to
a
5.6
billion
dollar
baby,
and
you
we've
got
to
have.
We
can't
dissolve
this
board
in
the
midst
of
that,
and
so
once
this
thing
gets
up
and
going
the
ability
to
sunset,
it
is
going
to
be
frankly,
maybe
more
painful
than
its
existence.
That's
why?
A
If
we
don't
get
a
handle
on
it
during
its
creation
and
hence
my
concern
over
the
expedited
manner
in
which
it's
being
created,
that's
that's
my
that's.
My
concern
is
that
we
want
to
hold
up
our
end
of
this
deal
whenever
we
ink
this
deal,
we
want
to
deliver
and
we
want
to
deliver
a
a
project
that
is
managed
to
the
best
of
our
ability,
especially
these
these
folks
have
gone
out
and
figured
found
somebody
and
figured
a
way
to
pay
for
it
and
make
it
happen.
D
Later,
yes,
sir
and
mr
chairman,
I
share
that
concern
and
that's
why
we're
here
in
your
community
today,
I
will
only
state
that
there
is
no
entity
within
state
government
that
cannot
be
sun,
go
through
the
sunset
cycle
and
actually
sunset
and
the
way
we
do
that.
I
know
everybody
in
this
room
is
know.
That
knows
this,
but
I
want
to
say
it
publicly
is
they
would
go
into
a
wind
down
and
normally
what
we
would
do
is
if,
for
some
reason
there
is
an
entity
within
state
government
that
is
critical.
D
I
mean
any
of
the
departments
any
of
the
entities,
but
one
that
we
want
to
keep,
but
the
members
of
that
particular
board
are
not
doing
their
duty
as
they
should.
We
put
them
in
that
wind
down
cycle
and
many
times
the
entire
makeup
of
that
body
is
then
changed
out
and
we've
done
that
on
several
entities
over
the
years,
and
so
I
agree
with
you
once
this
starts.
D
It
is
a
it
is
a
massive
ordeal
and
project,
but
I
would
always
encourage
this
body
to
continue
to
make
sure
that
there
is
no
entity
out
there.
That
is
too
big
for
us
to
potentially
replace-
and
I
say
that
publicly
really
before
the
members
of
this
body
that
we
may
approve
or
even
appointed,
because
I
want
them
to
hear
that
loud
and
clearly
they
will
come
back
before
us.
We
will
be
watching,
and
this
is
the
taxpayers
dollars
that
are
being
invested
partially
in
this,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
it's
done
right.
D
B
G
Okay,
so
thank
you
for
that
question
and
this
is
going
to
stay
right
in
the
same
fairway
of
how
ecd
transacts
business
on
a
daily
basis.
Every
project
over
a
certain
dollar
amount
has
an
accountability
agreement,
and
what
I
can
report
to
you
this
morning
is
that
of
those
350
or
some
odd
agreements
that
are
outstanding.
G
We
have
had
a
handful
of
companies,
come
to
the
maturity
date
and
not
have
been
able
to
deliver
the
jobs,
and
this
is
a
contract,
that's
binding,
and
so
we've
turned
over
a
couple
of
these
to
the
attorney
general's
office.
They've
pursued
all
their
remedies,
they've
gone
to
court
to
sue
those
parties
where
they
have
not
delivered
on
their
side
of
the
transaction,
and
we
would
see
this
would
be
no
different,
that
this
would
be
a
contract
and
again
at
the
end
of
the
10-year
anniversary
date.
G
That
would
be
the
final
snapshot
and
a
ford
motor
company
and
or
their
joint
ventures
have
delivered
90
of
the
jobs
that
we
had
incented
them
for
then
that
would
be
then
it
would
be
their
responsibility,
a
legally
binding
obligation
to
true
up
what
they
owe
and
as
far
as
the
shortfall.
So
that's
on
the
accountability
agreement
side
on
the
pilot
program,
as
mentioned
that
pilot
program
was
negotiated,
we
brought
the
locals
in
and
they
proposed
a
certain
pilot.
G
And
so
what
happens
is
that,
after
10
years
when
the
accounting
accountability
agreement
sunsets
it's
the
responsibility
of
ford
motor
company
to
deliver
and
continue
to
employ
the
the
number
of
jobs
that
they
had
promised
now
there's
an
80
threshold
and
if
they
fall
below
that
that
triggers
additional
payments,
and
so
there
are
penalties
built
in.
So
if
you
go
out
15
years
and
ford
motor
company
decides
to
you
know
to
downsize
ford.
G
Motor
company
will
pay
not
only
the
pilot
but
a
penalty
based
on
the
number
of
jobs,
fewer
jobs
that
they
actually
reported
at
the
end
of
that
year.
So
we
have
hopefully
protected
the
state
and,
more
importantly,
the
local
community,
where
that
pilot
over
the
next
30
years
will
not
go
down
but
go
up
and
again
if
they
don't,
if
they
shortfall
their
jobs,
they'll
be
additional
penalties
imposed,
and
so
we
hopefully
have
protected.
Not
only
the
state
on
from
accountability's
perspective,
but
also
the
local
community.
With
respect
to
the
pilot.
I
And
if
I
may
supplement
that
representative
with
two
more
pieces
of
information,
the
accountability
agreement
that
the
commissioner
described
is
something
that
will
go
through
the
state
building
commission
for
review
and
approval.
That's
set
out
in
the
legislation
also
in
the
legislation,
you'll
find
that
a
requirement
that
if
the
pilot
payment
isn't
made
or
is
late
or
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
we
have
to
go,
collect
or
municipality,
has
to
go,
collect,
there's
a
10
interest
rate
on
that
which
is
extraordinarily
to
our
benefit
as
well.
B
G
I
It'll
be
the
authority
with
respect
to
the
pilot
that
sees
and
makes
sure
that
those
monies
are
distributed
to
the
locals
in
the
way
that
they
should
be
and
at
the
amount
that
they
should
be
and
if
they're
not
for
some
reason,
then
that
creates
a
lien
on
the
property
and
we
can
go
after
those
payments
for
a
substantial
amount
of
interest
as
well.
Okay,.
B
Yes,
sir,
yes,
sir,
yes
thank
you.
Thank
you,
miss
chair
and
and
remember
the
patience.
Thank
you,
sir.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
keep
ford
from
pulling
up
their
heels
at
the
end
of
the
30-year
period?
Should
they
ask
for
another
abatement
when
that
period
ends,
and
you
know,
and
we
decide
not
to
do
or
give
another
abatement,
and
what
does
the
math
say
that
that
roi
is
at
the
end
of
that
30-year
period?
So
so
we
get
to
the
end
of
the
30
years
that
we're
offering
here
and
they
say,
hey
yeah.
B
We
want
another
30
years
and
we
say
you
know
we
don't
want
to
do
another
30
years,
so
they
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
go
to
mississippi.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
stop
that
and
is
that
written
there's
something
in
the
contract
or
in
negotiations
that,
where
we've
had
a
conversation
like
that,
and
does
the
roi
say
that
you
know
at
the
end
of
that
30
years,
we've
made
our
mint
that
we
wanted
to
make
out
for
this
and.
G
Yes,
sir,
so
bobby
roth,
so
a
great
question
and
it's
a
two-stage
dancer
right
now,
at
the
end
of
10
years,
when
the
accountability
agreement
has
been
fulfilled
under
the
capital
grant
the
500
million
dollar
capital
grant
technically
in
10
years,
in
one
day,
they
can
exercise
their
right
to
own
the
simple
dirt.
So
the
the
title
could
leave
the
state
and
go
to
ford
motor
company.
G
That
could
happen
ten
years
and
one
days
later,
or
it
could
happen
at
the
end
of
the
30-year
pilot,
sir.
So
those
are
options
that
ford
would
be
faced
with.
The
reality
is
the
moment
that
that
asset
transfers
to
ford
motor
company
they're
going
to
go
on
the
local
in
this
case,
haywood
county
tax
rolls
and
haywood
county
would
impose
their
assessed
valuation
as
they
would
assess
real
estate
in
their
community.
So
that
would
be
an
enormous
win
for
really
all
of
us.
G
G
I'm
not
aware
of
pilots
that
are
extended
unless
there's
a
significant
additional
expansion,
additional
jobs,
great
large
capex.
Now
the
answer
to
the
other
question
is
ford
motor
company.
If
they
decide
to
pick
up
or
close
or
do
whatever
they
will
be
responsible
for
all
of
those
agreements,
including
all
the
penalties
that
would
be
assessed
if
they
didn't
fulfill
their
side
of
the
obligations.
G
G
A
I
A
So
it
sounds
like
y'all
would
be
amenable
to
a
an
amendment
that
allowed
that
that
codified,
that
into
the
organization
of
this
structure.
Is
that
fair
to
say
I
don't
mean
to
put
words
in
your
mouth.
But
I
I
thought
that
I
may
hear
some
positive
reaction
from
that.
We're
the
kind
of
people
that
like
to
see
things
written
down.
I
G
Mr
chairman,
bobby
roth,
one
one
more
observation:
now
the
500
million
will
go
capital
grant
through
ecd.
The
40
million
for
the
the
tcat
will
go
through
tbr,
the
up
to
200
million
for
this
additional
tdot,
and
so
all
of
those
entities
are
open
to
audits
every
day,
sir,
so
for
those
larger
significant
dollars,
you
already
have
the
mechanisms
in
place,
but
your
question
is
specifically
that
mega
site
authority
and
those
resources,
the
good
news
is
they
are
relatively
minor
compared
to
where
most
of
the
capital
is
going
to
be
spencer.
F
I
E
Chairman,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
appreciate
your
concern
about
the
timing
of
this.
I
did
note
in
the
language
of
the
bill
that
the
authority
given
to
general
services
only
happens
if
we
pass
this
bill,
so
they
can't
take
over
and
or
do
anything
until
we
pass
this
bill.
So
the
whole
thing
I
guess
has
to
be
implemented.
E
G
E
Okay,
that's
certainly
gets
to
the
the
question.
The
primary
thing
that
I
wanted
to
ask
you
and
I
I'd
love
to
have
some
assurance,
because
I
think
this
particular
point
will
be
something
that
will
be
made
in
the
contract
with
ford
and
the
joint
venture
and
that's
concerning
during
the
construction
period,
which
most
of
our
money
is
going
toward
the
the
capital
outlay
of
this
project.
G
We
can
encourage
our
our
customers
to
follow
the
local
practices,
but
I
can
assure
you
if
we
wrote
into
the
accountability
agreement
that
the
state
was
going
to
be
dictating
certain
requirements
whatever
they
may
be.
That
would
likely
be
a
deal
killer
for
this
project,
and
I
share
that
with
you
with
the
following
context.
G
G
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
and
and
now
that
you
you
picked
my
interest
cause
way.
You
know
I
got
a
bunch
of
them
dirt
moving
boys
and
girls
in
my
district,
so
I
need
to
find
out
who
they're
talking
to
so
that
I
can
refer
them
to
some
fine,
fine
heavy
contractors
who
are
very
anxious
to
get
started.
Chairman.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
My
question
is,
and
it's
probably
to
commissioner
ely-
I
guess,
but
it's
deals
with
the
formation
of
this
authority
before
I
guess
this
body
creates
such
an
authority
has
a
pro
forma
operating
budget
for
the
authority
been
put
together
already
that
we
can
see
over
the
next
couple
of
years
on
how
it's
gonna
look
operate,
what
kind
of
expenditures
and
what
kind
of
funding
that
authority
might
take
so
do
we
have
that
that
this
body
can
look
at.
H
But
it's
that
represents
eight
months
of
operations,
because
this
would
contemplate
that
this
would
be
started
by
by
november
the
first
and
so
that
675
000
represents
eight
months
of
a
year
that
would
carry
us
through
and
then
we
would
we
appropriate
what
would
be
necessary
for
the
following
year
in
the
in
the
budget
cycle
to
do
that.
But
that
includes
a
a
ceo,
a
an
assistant
or,
and
then
whatever
travel
and
meeting
would
be.
Meetings
would
be
necessary
as
well
as
kind
of
minimal
office
space.
H
E
H
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Mr
chairman,
this
is
not
a
question
but
part
of
my
opening
statement
when
we
talk
about
how
excited
elated
almost
happy
about
where
we
are
today
and
mr
chairman,
if
you
could
take
the
responsibility
and
authority
of
telling
us
when
we
can
participate
in
the
opening
ceremonies
at
the
site,
take
because
I
think
that's
where
we
want
to
go
and
that's
where
we
need
to
be.
B
It
reminds
me
of
sort
of
like
a
relay
race,
and
I
remember,
as
representative
again
said,
conversations
probably
started
in
the
90s,
but
in
2007
I
think.
That's
when
probably
the
first
bill
was
introduced,
bipartisan
bill,
lieutenant
ramsey,
lieutenant
governor
at
the
time
and
bredesen
was
governor
and
speaker
jimmy
nafey.
So
once
foul
the
pistol
we
took
off
running
and
for
14
years,
we've
been
passing
that
baton
by
continuously
funding
this
operation.
B
So
we
are
here
today
and
it
was
a
bipartisan
approach
at
that
time
and
which
brings
to
my
question
currently
in
in
the
language.
The
board
is
made
up
of
seven
individuals
and
it
seems
that
the
governor
actually
gets
five
appointments
and
the
other
two
appointments
are
the
speaker
and
the
lieutenant
governor.
G
I
work
with
every
day
at
ecd
to
recruit
alan
and
his
team
to
recruit
additional
companies
that
may
need
some
additional
infrastructure
that
would
require
some
services
from
general
services.
With
respect
to
the
overall
makeup
again,
the
request
is
that
that
body
be
smaller
versus
larger,
sir.
That
was
what
ford
motor
company
had
asked.
G
E
You
very
much,
mr
chairman,
commissioner,
roth.
I
just
wanted
to
comment
that
you
know
you've
got
decades
of
experience
in
doing
in
business
and
industrial
development
and
attracting
businesses
to
the
state
of
tennessee.
Tennessee
is
actually
probably
a
rock
star
on
attracting
new
businesses
and
industry
to
come
to
our
state,
primarily
a
lot
to
do
with
the
policies
that
this
general
assembly
has
set
for
the
state
over
a
number
of
years,
but
you're
acutely
a
rock
star
for
what
you've
done
for
tennessee
is
your
service
and
we're
all
deeply
grateful
for
that.
G
Yes,
sir,
so
thank
you
for
that
question.
Again
bobby
roth
and
yes,
sir,
for
my
first
18
years,
I
did
serve
as
an
investment
banker
and
then
ran
a
whole
host
of
small
to
medium-sized
businesses.
Before
I
made
the
decision
to
come
to
the
state
and
and
provide
four
and
a
half
years
now
of
great
public
service,
I
will
say
simply
that
this
we've
had
some
great
wins,
sir,
and
I
go
back
to.
G
So
it
goes
back
to
having
a
great
product
and
the
great
product's
a
byproduct
of
great
pro-business-friendly
policies
and,
what's
been
so
fun
to
represent
the
state
with
the
team
I
work
with
in
recruiting
all
over
the
globe
is
we
do
have
a
great
product,
sir,
so
that
makes
it
easy.
With
respect
to
these
economics,
I
can
tell
you
this
this
project,
I
think,
will
be
so
historical
and
will
deliver
such
a
return
on
investment
and,
like
I
said
our
modeling
is
simply
a
static
model.
It
really
doesn't
take
into
consideration
inflation,
wage
inflation.
G
It
doesn't
take
into
consideration
these
12
to
14
other
suppliers.
It
doesn't
take
into
consideration
the
growth.
That's
going
to
happen
around
this
campus
and
it's
not
going
to
be
just
hayward
county.
It's
not
going
to
be
just
fayette
county.
It's
going
to
be
lauderdale,
it's
going
to
be
shelby
county
it'll,
be
madison
county
it'll,
be
all
of
these
counties
because,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
workers
that
they
are
going
to
be
recruiting
to
come
to
this
plant,
the
wages
are
so
fantastic.
G
It
will
be
a
game
changer,
and
I
say
that
to
you
governor
lee
asked
us
all
the
time
at
ecd
go
out
and
recruit
companies
that
are
going
to
pay
family
wages
and
sir,
what's
so
exciting
about
these
wages.
Is
these
wages
are
enough
to
say
you
know
what
there's
a
room
in
the
budget
for
maybe
a
boat,
an
extra
car?
G
Sure.
So
again,
if
I
sound
just
a
little
bit
excited
it's
only
because
I
work
with
such
a
great
team
at
ecd
that
has
delivered
such
a
great
asset
and
again-
and
I
can
one
last
comment
with
respect
to
the
electric
vehicle
revolution.
As
you
know,
general
motors
is
now
going
to
build
their
cadillac,
lyric
and
they're
going
to
spend
three
or
two
2.2
billion
dollars
in
spring
hill
and
then
the
the
battery
joint
venture,
another
2.3
billion
dollars.
And
then
volkswagen
says
you
know
what
we're
going
to
spend.
G
The
the
mazda
toyota
joint
venture
was
one
that
ended
up
in
huntsville.
Now,
while
we
lost
that
project
up,
five
companies
so
far
have
called
tennessee
home
that
are
suppliers,
so
we
have
won
indirectly
and
now.
This
would
be
the
super
bowl
of
winds,
sir,
that
we
could
only
dream
about,
and
I
say
that
to
you,
because
everybody
across
the
globe
in
the
automobile
business
is
trying
to
determine
how
you
provide
the
electric
vehicle.
G
There
are
no
less
than
23
startup
ev
companies
and
I
believe
half
of
them
have
come
to
us
and
knocked
on
our
door,
and
I
have
told
our
team
at
ecd
and
governor
lee
and
his
team,
let's
be
thoughtful
about
who
we
recruit,
because
all
these
great
startups
have
the
capital
to
build
the
plant,
but
the
real
capital
is
the
balance
sheet
that
can
afford
the
working
capital
and
setting
up
the
dealer
network.
That's
where
the
work
is
and
that's
where
that
capital
runs
short.
G
So
again,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
if
I
sound
just
a
bit
excited,
please
forgive
me
for
that
excitement,
because
this
really
is
something
that
we
will
all
be
so
proud
of.
We
have
to
do
it
right.
We
have
to
protect
the
state,
the
taxpayers
and
you
guys.
I
certainly
we
want
you
to
pressure
pressure
pressure
test,
what
we've
done
in
negotiating
that
mou,
but,
needless
to
say,
sir,
a
bit
excited.
E
Mr
chairman,
thank
you
very
much.
Commissioner
roth.
I
deeply
appreciate
that
I
do
have.
I
do
have
one
concern.
I
want
to
share
with
you,
and
maybe
I
can
get
you
to
leave
some
of
my
concerns
that,
with
the
ford
deal
and
sk
innovation
battery
innovations,
some
folks
are
concerned
that
that
deal
may
suck
up
some
of
the
ecd
dollars
that
might
go
to
counties
around
the
area
in
west
tennessee.
E
E
Can
I
get
you
still
commit
that
ecd
is
not
going
to
overlook
these
companies
if
they
have
an
ability
to
expand
or
maybe
put
a
a
new
division
and
he's
because
I'm
less
than
two
hours
away
from
the
deal,
and
I
would
think
that
would
be
extremely
attractive
for
ford
motor
company
and
what,
if
there's
anything,
we
can
do
to
try
to
get
some
of
our
local
manufacturers
hooked
up
with
ford.
So
thank
you,
sir.
G
Yes,
sir,
so
very
briefly,
bobby
roth
again,
so
the
short
answer
is
thanks
to
this
general
assembly.
You
have
always
funded
all
of
our
projects
and
I
ask
our
team
every
day
to
continue
to
recruit
like
there's
no
tomorrow,
because
at
some
point
we're
going
to
have
another
recession,
and
I
say
to
the
team:
we
want
as
many
great
companies
calling
tennessee
home,
because
one
day
when
that
next
recession
hits
it'll
be
a
softer
landing
for
tennesseans.
G
We
hope
I
can
promise
you
these
companies
that
have
been
a
part
of
the
combustion
internal
combustion
engine
world,
they're
all
actively
looking
at
how
they
reformulate
retool
re-strategize
to
be
relative
in
the
future,
and
I
can
promise
you
we
will
recruit
all
of
these
companies
again,
especially
the
companies
that
already
call
tennessee
home.
What
I
want
you
to
know
is
when
they
have
a
pla
phase,
two
or
phase
three,
we
treat
them
with
the
same
enthusiasm
with
the
same
kind
of
incentives
as
we
do
a
new
company
coming
to
tennessee.
G
H
You,
commissioner,
eagley,
I
see
you
down
there
hey,
mr
chairman,
let
me
just
add
one
thing
to
the
commissioner's
excitement.
One
of
the
great
things
about
this
is,
as
has
been
mentioned,
this
body
has
been
so
financially
prudent
over
over
the
years
and
because
of
the
actions
that
this
this
body
took
over
the
last
two
years
to
prepare
us
for
what
we
didn't
know
might
happen
with
with
kovid
and
the
actions,
the
quick
actions
that
that
were
taken.
H
We
find
ourselves
in
a
in
a
tremendously
positive
position.
Today
we
have
over
collected
during
the
21
fiscal
year,
approximately
2.1
billion
dollars
of
over
collections,
and
so
every
dollar
that
we're
talking
about
here,
we're
going
to
be
able
to
to
deal
with
through
cash,
we'll
we'll
be
able
to
make
make
those
investments.
H
A
And
not
all
of
my
colleagues
up
here
were
able
to
attend
a
fine
institution
like
I
was
memphis
state
university,
so
I
did.
I
did
some
amateur
math
on
it
and
when
you
look
at
our
investment,
the
contribution
per
man,
woman
and
child,
even
the
fact
that
we've
got
it
on
hand,
that's
even
more
of
a
bonus
but
we're
talking
less
than
125
dollars
a
person
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
that's
going
to
change
the
trajectory
of
an
entire
region,
and
so
the
roi
on
that
is
spectacular.
A
And
again,
that's
that
that's
the
easy
to
me.
That's
the
easy
part
of
this
of
our
entire
conversation
and
I'd
like
to
say,
commissioner
ralph
we're
some
of
your
biggest
cheerleaders.
Of
course,
not
everyone's
a
two-time
national
collegiate
cheerleading
champion
either,
but
that's
okay.
They
do
the
best.
A
As
but
as
we
dig
into
this,
and
we've
got
a
couple
more
people
on
here
and
just
for
you
guys
and
ladies
for
housekeeping
notes,
what
we're
going
to
do
today
is
is
we're
these
very
important.
Fine
folks
are
going
to
have
to
go,
spend
some
time
with
our
senate
colleagues,
and
so
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
take.
We've
also
got
some
other
public
testimony.
A
We're
gonna
hear
on
this
matter,
and
so
we're
gonna
take
a
re
short
recess
here
coming
up
and
then
we're
gonna
come
back
after
lunch
to
finish
our
conversations
and
and
and
look
at
seeing
how
we
want
to
handle
this.
So
that's
just
for
everybody's
understanding
I
see
in
here.
Could
someone
could
I
no?
No
I'm
gonna.
Stick
to
my
thing.
I'm
gonna
ask
my
questions.
Last
chairman
white.
E
E
I
was
up
at
the
university
of
tennessee
about
a
week
ago,
visiting
the
engineering
department
and
there
they
already
have
the
students
designing,
what's
the
best
platform
to
recharge
these
vehicles,
and
is
this
fascinating
to
watch
some
of
the
ideas
coming
out,
so
the
research
dollars
that's
going
to
come
in
for
our
institutions
is
great.
I
want
to
ask
a
fiscal
question
for
me,
mr
chairman,
just
to
make
sure
I'm
on
the
same
page,
leader
gant.
When
he
started
his
comments
out.
E
G
G
So
that's
payroll
that
goes
to
tennessee
workers,
which
I
think
you
know
where
we
have
some
people
that
will
commute
outside
of
a
45
mile
radius,
maybe
but
yes,
sir,
so
that
would
be
the
annual
payroll
that
would
be
generated
for
workers
that
live
close
to
or
within
proximity
of
the
mega
site.
So
that's
the
first
data
point:
the
3.5
billion
dollars,
that's
an
annual
gross
domestic
think
of
gdp,
and
I'm
going
to
try
to
put
it
in
the
right
context.
G
G
They
are
coming
here
because
of
the
access
to
all
the
great
assets
in
memphis,
tennessee,
world-class
airport,
world-class
port,
world-class
education,
world-class
living
world-class
experience
and
so
well,
there'll
be
a
whole
economy
that
I
think
will
grow,
because
this
is
not
a
company.
That's
going
to
be
going
out
and
reaching
out
it
get
in
they're
going
to
want
to
make
sure
that
a
lot
of
the
suppliers
and
a
lot
of
their
partners,
because
you
know
what
it's
great
to
buy
certain
parts.
G
But
then
you've
got
to
buy
all
the
ancillary
services
that
wrap
around
supporting
a
5.6
billion
dollar
asset.
That's
going
to
have
that's
going
to
be
home
to
5760
employees,
so
there
will
be
this
enormous
ripple
effect
that
I
think
the
entire
region
and
yes,
they're,
going
to
be
other
parts
of
the
state
that
are
making
other
parts
that
will
be
also
shipping
their
product.
In
because
again,
the
supplier
network
for
an
electric
vehicle
looks
very
different
than
a
supplier
network
for
the
we
call
it
the
icn
internal
combustion
engine.
Sir
thank.
E
B
Sir,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
just
let
me
mention
how
lucky
we
are
in
this
extraordinary
session
to
have
an
extraordinary
chairman
of
our
committee.
Did
you
hear
that
I
was
hoping
to
get
three
or
four
follow-ups
with
that,
but
anyway,
this
is
probably
going
to
commissioner
ely
and
thank
you
all,
first
of
all,
for
being
here
and
and
coming
out
today,
and
we
appreciate
your
insight.
Commissioner
ely.
I
was
not
fortunate
enough
to
go
to
memphis
state
university.
B
I
went
to
the
university
of
tennessee,
but
one
thing
that
we
learned
over
there.
We
keep
talking
about
roi,
one
thing
that
people
mention
and
I've
heard
others
talk
about
the
number
of
years
and
actually
roi.
As
I
know
it,
return
on
investment
is
based
on
a
percentage
we're
what
we're
talking
about.
I
think
we're
getting
confused
a
little
bit
at
a
break
even
point.
You
know.
B
H
Yeah,
well,
I
would,
I
would
say,
you're
you're,
correct,
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
look
at
this
and
and
I'll
I'll
refer
back
over
to
commissioner
here,
because
his
team
really
put
the
numbers
to
this
when
we
were
looking
at
at
roi
and
in
the
structure
of
the
deal
that
we
did.
But
I
would
I
would
just
say
this:
we
we've
done
a
lot
of
deals
in
the
state
of
tennessee
and
to
me
this.
H
This
deal
by
by
far
is,
is
going
to
have
more
positive
impact
on
the
entire
state,
but
certainly
certainly
our
western
part
of
the
state
than
anything
that
we've
been
able
to
do
before.
And
so
we
can.
We
can
slice
and
dice
and
look
at
how
you
how
you
run
roi
or
how
you
look
at,
but
there
is.
There
is
no
doubt
in
my
mind
that
this
will
have
a
a
positive
impact
on
the
people
of
the
state.
H
Sooner
than
later-
and
I
mean
I
look
at
it
in
terms
of
you-
know-
the
3.5
billion
that
chairman
said
for
gross
prod
added
product
to
to
our
state,
we're
we
we
will,
we
will
more,
we
will
we
will
more
than
then
get
our
value
out
of
these.
These
investments
that
that
we're
making
here,
if
this,
if
this
body
takes
the
action
that
we're
hoping
to
tomorrow.
So
so
you
want
to
add
to
that.
Yes,
sir,.
G
G
G
The
state,
just
during
construction,
close
to
180
million
dollars,
will
come
back
to
the
state
department
of
revenue,
the
local
communities
about
70
million
dollars.
Now,
that's
not
just
in
haywood
county
that
would
be
memphis
tennessee
wherever
in
I'm
not
going
to
go
through,
but
that
that's
our
modeling
there
and
then
on
an
annual
basis.
G
The
state
tax
is
generated
again,
a
static
model
without
any
inflation
or
expansion,
or
additional
companies
that
would
come
here
will
generate
about
22
million
dollars
a
year
for
the
state
in
perpetuity,
and
then
the
county
and
the
local
communities
of
close
to
seven
million
dollars,
and
then
the
pilot
program,
the
269
million
dollars
at
ford
motor
company
and
their
joint
venture
partner
are
going
to
pay
in
lieu
of
taxes.
It
will
go
to
the
local
communities
that
would
be
269
million
dollars.
So
those
are
some
of
the
local
data
points.
G
What
I
cannot
tell
you
is
this:
what
I'll
call
this
ripple,
this
multiplier
effect
of
how
it's
going
to
impact,
because
all
the
local
communities
people
are
going
to
be
building
new
homes,
we
hope
new
retail,
we
hope
new
hospitality.
We
hope
all
those
rich
assets
will
come
out
of
the
ground
and
that's
not
been
factored
into
this
multiplier
effect
of
what
that's
going
to
do,
not
only
for
state
revenue,
but
also
for
the
local
communities,
the
sales
tax,
the
property
taxes,
etc.
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
follow
up
on
that
and
and
going
back
to
that
point-
and
I
appreciate
that
and
going
back
to
that
point,
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
here
and
and
in
the
legislature
we're
not
from
west
tennessee.
So
when
we
go
back
to
east
tennessee
or
wherever
my
colleagues
might
be
from
and
we're
trying
to
tell
our
constituents
why
this
is
a
great
investment.
You
know
and
even
though
it's
all
going,
you
know
to
west
tennessee,
but
why
it's
a
great
investment
for
our
area
too.
Why?
B
G
A
very
good
question,
sir:
again
bobby
roth.
I
think
the
short
answer
to
this
is
whether
it's
great
for
west
tennessee,
central
or
middle
tennessee
or
east
tennessee,
the
state
wins.
The
state
wins
based
on
this
investment,
whenever
a
company
would
decide
to
put
5.6
billion
dollars
and
that's
just
warming
up
the
engines,
no
pun
intended
because
of.
G
G
G
Well,
you
know
what
every
time
another
company
comes
to
tennessee
and
I
think
what
I
want
all
of
us
to
be
so
mindful
of
is
having
an
oem
in
your
state
is
just
gold
because
it
creates
this
whole
supplier
network
and
all
the
suppliers
rely
on
other
suppliers
and
then
you've
got
all
the
companies
that
have
to
support
those
companies
and
then
you've
got
all
the
other
services
wrapped
around
supporting
people,
and
so
I
can
just
simply
say
that
it
is
going
to
be
an
enormous
win
for
everybody
in
this
state.
Okay,.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Going
back
to
the
authority,
the
water
and
wastewater
utility
of
this
I
mean
in
reading
the
legislation.
It's
certainly
the
primary
focus
is
to
provide
water
and
wastewater
to
the
mega
site,
but
it
certainly
has
provisions
for
the
waste,
water
and
water
services
to
to
expand
to
be
a
public
water
and
wastewater.
A
utility
to
service
the
counties
and
municipalities
around
it
is.
E
G
Yes,
sir,
so
bobby
roth
again
sir,
we
have
asked
general
services
to
upsize
the
wastewater
distribution
because
of
what
we
are
anticipating
is
the
demand
at
the
mega
site.
So,
as
there
is
waste
water
discharge
created,
the
plan
is
for
general
services,
who
really
is
not
in
this
business
but
to
build
a
wastewater
treatment
plant
on
the
campus.
G
So
the
short
answer
is
we
started
with
three
and
a
half
million
gallons
of
wastewater
and
we've
asked
general
services,
which
they've
been
a
fabulous
partner
here,
sir,
to
upsize
it
to
about
4.6
million
based
on
the
demands
of
the
users
at
the
mega
site.
We
feel
like
they
will
be
using
that
capacity.
G
B
Good
morning,
good
morning,
john
hull,
I'm
the
deputy
commissioner
in
general
services.
So,
commissioner,
roth,
is
absolutely
right.
We
are
building
the
system
today
for
4.6
million
gallons,
so
as
we
confirm
what
ford
will
need
or
another
tenant
at
the
mega
site,
we'll
just
have
to
see
what
additional
capacity
might
be
there
at
that
point.
But
that's
the
base
certainly
is
to
design
a
system
to
service
those
tenants
on
the
mega
site.
E
B
B
F
A
A
I
see
here
that
this
body
has
the
appears
to
me.
It
has
the
ability
to
determine.
What's
noxious,
I
think
that's
a
zoning
term,
but
whenever
you
consider
batteries
battery
manufacturing,
particularly
battery
recycling,
that's
pretty
that
can,
for
those
who,
let's
just
say,
aren't
very
good
at
it-
can
create
ancillary
problems
on
the
fact
that
this
site
is
sitting
over
memphis
sands
oxford.
I
G
And
it
really
is
about
recycling,
and
it
is,
you
know,
we
have
alan
board
and
I've
been
to
several
battery
manufacturers
across
the
globe
to
recruit
those
companies
to
tennessee,
and
they
have
this
enormous
ability
to
have
a
closed
system,
which
means
they
are
recycling.
Absolutely
everything.
And
so
there
is
the
technology
emerges.
We
are
all
hopeful
that
there
will
be
less
waste
if
you
will,
as
we
go
forward.
G
A
Amen
to
the
welcome
shout
out
to
all
the
forwards
that
might
be
among
us.
We
appreciate
you.
We
are
going
to
hear
from
dr
ramsey
and
then
I
will
close
our
questioning
and
then
we
will
go
for
a
recess,
we'll
coordinate
with
our
guests
to
see
what
their
commitments
from
the
the
senate
side
see.
What
they've
got
there
and
then
I
will
reconvene
to
hear
some
more
testimony
with
regards
to
some
open
records.
So
dr
bob
excuse
me,
chairman
ramsey
you're.
E
Recognizing
and
then
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
and
certainly
my
name
was
not
mentioned
in
the
testimony.
However,
my
district
was
and
in
a
very
positive
light.
The
denso
corporation
has
I've.
I
have
spoken
to
them
and
and
for
those
who
are
in
in
separate
parts
of
the
state,
they
are
absolutely
thrilled
that
the
ford
company
is
coming
to
tennessee
and
they
could
not
be
more
supportive
and
they
said,
tell
alan
borden
hello
when
I
come
so.
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
roth,
and
I
appreciate
that
references.
A
A
I
Yes,
aaron
merrick.
I
can
handle
that
for
you,
mr
chairman,
as
far
as
the
process
that
you
described
about,
of
course,
being
involved
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
that
is
captured
in
the
last
sentence
of
the
subsection
a12
about
the
ability
to
exercise
this
power
pursuant
to
any
applicable
statutory
provision.
That
is
pretty
standard
language.
I
For
a
lot
of
these
express
grants
of
condemnation,
power
and
the
essence
there
is
that,
whatever,
whatever
due
process
structures
are
set
up
in
statute
for
an
entity
to
exercise
its
due
process,
those
are
the
procedures
that
are
available
for
us
to
follow
as
far
as
what
may
potentially
be
condemned
or
what
we're
thinking
about
in
the
course
of
condemnation
here.
It's
for
what
I
would
describe
as
as
yet
unforeseen
needs
for
a
type
of
suppose.
I
It's
an
expansion
of
the
water
or
the
wastewater
systems,
or
the
pipe
or
the
discharge
at
the
mississippi
river
or
any
of
those
sorts
of
things
where
we
need
access
to
get
a
right-of-way
to
make
the
the
outspout
at
the
mississippi
river
bigger
or
we
need
to
make
a
pipe
bigger
to
handle
extra
capacity
or
things
of
that
nature.
It's
it
could
be
the
you
know
we
need.
I
We
need
to
take
core
samples
of
land
before
we
can
expand
the
pipe
in
that
area.
So
it's
it's
those
types
of
things
that
are
consistent
with
the
the
condemnation
power
that
we've
exercised
to
get
the
pipe
you
know
in
the
ground
to
date
we
have
a
lot
of
rights
of
ways
already
to
make
this
happen,
and
it's
just
a
a
continuation
of
that
of
that
power.
A
Thank
you.
I
understand
that,
and-
and
that's
again
this
whole
rush
rush
rush
between
this.
I
would
like
to
see
that
reviewed
in
here,
because
what
I,
what
makes
me
concerned
is
that
we've
got
this
mega
site
authority
there,
who's
sitting
upon
condemnation
powers
and
we
have
a
patient
private
landowner,
who's
wanting
to
develop
a
close
to
the
mega
site
industrial
facility
themselves,
and
suddenly
the
mega
site
authority
decides
that
they
have
a
tenant,
that's
on
their
prop
that
could
fit
on
their
property
and
they
want
to
condemn
an
extra
300
acres.
A
That's
the
kind
of
thing
that
concerns
me.
If
we
could
change
word,
do
a
little
wordsmithing
here
to
say
that
we're
to
allow
access
for
transportation
utility
access,
those
type
things.
I
just
wanted
this
to
become
a
a
land-hungry
beast
that
continues
to
grow
and
again
short-circuits
the
private
model
that
that
I
care
so
much
about.
I
G
Bobby
roth,
yes,
sir,
the
short
answer
is
that
we
have.
The
state
has
already
exercised
its
rights
for
condemnation
for
easements.
I
think
a
hundred
and
120
different
families-
and
this
was
to
make
sure
that
the
pipeline
to
the
mississippi
and
when
we're
talking
about
condemnation,
we're
really
talking
about
easements
we're
talking
about
bar,
you
know
burrowing
or
burying
an
18-inch
pipe
across
private
land,
and
so
we
spent
two
years
paying
those
those
private
land
owners.
G
G
We
are
grateful
for
this
language,
because
if
we
need
to
expand
our
water
or
wastewater
utilities
and
or
decide
that
we
have
extra
capacity
or
the
authority
has
extra
capacity
to
send
or
treat
or
do
something
else,
whether
it's
to
other
local
utilities
or
to
the
to
the
mississippi
river.
I
think
that
was
the
intent.
Sir.
A
A
The
last
thing
I'd
like
to
point
out
is-
and
this
is
one
of
my
reasons
for
for
for
bringing
this
up-
is
the
very
following
paragraph
that
says
that
this
board
will
do
and
perform
each
and
every
act
and
thing
and
have
and
exercise
each
and
every
power
that
the
board
and
the
board's
soul
discretion
deems
necessary,
convenient
or
appropriate
to
accomplish
the
purposes
of
this
chapter.
And
then
the
inclusion
of
a
specific
power
in
this
chapter
does
not
limit
the
broad
general
powers
granted
to
the
authority.
A
That
is
a
wide
wide
way
to
go.
That's
a
lot
of
power
and
authority
and
a
lot
of
words
that
are
put
in
there
to
say
that
we
can
do
basically
anything
we
want,
and
that's
scary,
that
that's
that
particular
paragraph
immediately
following
condemnation
seems
to
seems
to
not
match
up
with
with
the
fact
that
we're
trying
to
keep
specific
what
we're
doing
and
again
it's
all
in
today
we're
all
about
the
betterment
of
the
community,
we're
all
about
it
and
everything
that
has
been
said
from
you
folks
down.
A
A
H
I
know
we've
we've
had
discussion
about
this
already
to
some
degree,
but
I
I
just.
I
would
reiterate
that
what
was
said
earlier
leader
lamberth
also
pointed
this
out
in
his
remarks
at
the
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Everything
that
that
we
do
is
still
going
to
be
subject
to
the
oversight
of
of
this
body
and
and
and
will
come
before,
governops
as
a
sunset.
H
And
so
ultimately,
you
will
have
the
ability
to
to
guide
the
actions
of
of
this
authority.
You
have
the
ability,
along
with
the
governor,
to
make
make
the
appointments.
I
say
this
the
speakers
of
of
the
senate
and
speaker
of
the
house,
and
so
I
I
would
that
the
reasoning
that
we
that
we
put
forth,
I
think
in
the
in
the
legal
language,
is
simply
to
be
able
to
execute
on
the
simple.
H
The
simple
matter
that
we're
trying
to
accomplish
is
to
get
this
site
ready
to
be
able
to
occupy
in
a
in
a
time
frame
that
has
been
indicated
by
the
by
commissioner
rolfe.
So
so
I
I
would.
I
would
still
say
that,
as
we've
said
that
that
this,
this
body,
through
through
its
its
committees,
will
be
able
to
have
that
oversight
that
you're
looking
for
and
that
that
that
is
the
safeguard
that
trumps
any
any
of
the
language
you're
concerned
about.
A
Thank
you,
sir.
I
appreciate
that,
and-
and
again
I
want
to-
I
want
to
clarify
and
be
perfectly
clear
about
this-
is
that
my
concerns
about
the
haste
in
which
this
very
powerful
authority
is
being
brought
about
and
brought
into
existence
in
no
way
colors.
The
excitement
that
we've
got
for
the
transformation
that
this
project
brings
to
our
area.
The
the
the
work
that's
been
done
is
appreciated
and
valued,
and
so
we
look
forward
to
trying
to
get
this
to
where
we
can.
We
can.
A
We
can
all
participate
in
the
in
the
victory
parade,
but
that
this
word
is
this.
This
wording
is
is
concerning
to
me
I'm
going
to
go
to
leader
lamberth
and
then
we're
going
to
step
into
a
recess
and
reconvene
this
afternoon
to
hear
additional
testimony
and
then
have
discussion
amongst
ourselves
and
then
hopefully
put
this
before
a
vote
later.
Labreth.
D
Thank
mr
chairman
and
I
feel
like
we
didn't
coordinate
beforehand,
but
I
feel
like
we're
sharing
the
same
script
today,
because,
quite
frankly,
any
of
your
questions
or
questions
that
I
have
asked
and
on
the
imminent
domain
issue,
there
is
a
sentence
in
there.
I
wanted
to
highlight
on
page
8
of
the
bill.
D
D
That
says
where
an
entity
can
go
and
where
they
cannot-
and
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
get
this
on
the
record-
that
just
because
an
entity
this
this
mega
site
authority
or
anyone
else
feels
that
they
wish
to
have
or
want
to
have
property
around
them.
That's
not
how
you
are
able
to
access
additional
property.
You
have
to
prove
your
case
and
those
statutes
can
be
set
by
this
body
and
have
been
and
will
continue
to
be
so.
D
So
just
wanted
to
kind
of
highlight
that,
because
you
went
right
to
the
media
concern
that
I
had
very
early
on
and
then
the
language
of
this
kind
of
put
that
to
ease
in
my
mind,
but
it's
a
very
serious
power
even
to
begin
that
process
that
we're
granting
upon
them.
So
we're
almost
setting
up
again.
This
will
make
sense
in
my
mind
a
small
city
or
county.
I
mean
it's
a
it's
a
state
property
we
purchased
it.
D
We
didn't
use
eminent
domain
at
the
beginning,
but
it
doesn't
have
any
of
the
amenities
or
structure
that
that
we
would
normally
have.
If
we
were
just
working,
it's
just
too
large
so
to
get
a
project
of
this
size,
we're
almost
having
to
set
up
a
small
city
or
even
a
pretty
good
size
cities
quite
frankly,
and
that's
what
a
lot
of
the
structure
this
is.
So,
mr
chairman,
I
just
wanted
to
hit
that
because
it
you
hit
right
on
a
point
that
very
early
on
in
this.
D
A
Well,
it's
a
a
project
of
this
magnitude.
It's
it's
scope,
it's
complexity!
I
can't
point
that,
and
I've
been
around
for
a
long
time-
and
I
can't
remember
anything
like
this
in
our
area.
All
right,
I'm
gonna
go
back,
I'm
I'm
gonna
change
up
one
thing:
chairman
moody's
been
sitting
over
there,
so
thoughtful
quietly,
determining
what
she's
gonna
say
and
so
prior
to
us
going
and
departing
to
break
bread.
She
has
some
words
of
wisdom
that
she'd
like
to
provide
us.
So
chairman
moody.
C
I
was
sent
here
by
tipton
county
in
2013,
and
I've
learned
from
that
time
how
important
it
is
to
know
history
and
so
for
this
body
and
and
then
I
do
have
a
question,
but
the
wastewater
is
coming
through
tipton
county
into
the
mississippi
river
and
I
was
blessed
to
have
some
locals
who
their
families
have
lived
on
the
mississippi
river
for
generations.
They
know
that
river,
like
the
back
of
their
hand,
and
they
called
me
and
said
this
cannot
happen.
C
The
original
location
for
the
outflow
was
going
to
end
up
being
in
the
shallowest
part
of
that
river
half
the
year.
It's
flooded.
It
was
right
at
the
mouth
of
the
scenic
catchy
river,
which
is
a
protected
river.
So
when
it's
flooded,
guess
where
that's
going
and
then
the
other
half
of
the
year,
it
would
be
exposed
on
sandbars.
C
So
we
began
the
appeal
they
picked
me
up,
took
me
out
in
the
side
by
side
and
we
wrote
all
up
and
down.
They
showed
me
where
they,
the
deepest
part
of
the
river,
was
which
would
be
the
ideal
place,
even
though
it's
treated
water,
it's
still
waste
water
and
where
that
river
could
continue
to
do
its
job
with
it.
C
And
that's
my
interpretation,
maybe
not
scientific,
but
so
we
began
the
appeal
with
tdec
to
hear
us
out
and
reconsider
where
that
outflow
was
going
to
go
and-
and
it
was,
we
were
blessed
with
tdax,
sending
some
folks
out
to
come
and
let
them
take
that
tour
and
listen
to
our
local
folks,
and
so
that
outflow
was
changed
to
the
deeper
part.
And
so
I'm
grateful
to
tdac
for
listening
and
sending
their
folks
out.
But
again,
I
guess
I'm
telling
that
history
of
why
it's
so
important
that
we
listen
to
the
locals.
C
That
do
know
history
and
lo,
just
so
many
things
that
they
could
add
to
the
conversation,
because,
like
chairman
vaughn,
I
I
am
concerned.
I
was
concerned
with
that
part
and
that
broad
authority,
and
since
we
already
have
that
outflow
coming,
how
would
that
change,
tipton,
county
and
and
where
that's
going
to
so
I
do
want
to
share
the
history
and
learn
more
about
that
answer,
and
I
think
boy.
C
C
G
I
correct
yes
ma'am.
May
I
answer
again
bobby
roth
and
thank
you
and
you
are
correct.
Your
community
was
enormously
patient
and,
yes,
sir,
nobody
bats
a
thousand
percent,
yes
ma'am
and
we
discovered
that
that
needed
to
be
redesigned
and,
of
course,
we'd
already.
We
had
already
done
a
lot
of
work
and
we
redesigned
it,
and
so
the
new
outflow
or
outfall
is
at
the
core
of
engineers.
G
G
Outfall
is
in
a
flow
of
the
river
and
I
believe
if
it
isn't
40
feet
or
50
feet
deep,
even
in
a
bad
year,
it's
going
to
obviously
be
the
right
answer,
and
so
thank
you
for
that
and
your
patience
and
and
your
kind
comments,
and
I
can
just
say
again-
ecd:
it's
been
one
of
the
great
team
sport
efforts.
So
a
lot
of
accolades
go
to
the
team
that
I
get
to
work
with.
So
thank
you.