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House Commerce Committee- March 22, 2022- House Hearing Room 1
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Welcome
to
commerce
full
committee
of
the
house,
I'm
your
host
chairman
kevin
vaughn
and
we're
going
to
start
today's
proceedings
with
the
taking
of
the
role
mr
clark
find
out
who's
with
us.
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A
Thank
you
for
joining
us
today.
I
would
also
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
to
let's
keep
representative
alexander
in
our
prayers.
She
is
recuperating
from
surgery
yesterday,
we
believe
all
went
well,
but
we
are
flying
in
a
missing
person
formation,
one
light
today
as
a
result
of
her
hip
surgery,
and
so
we
wish
her
the
very
best
we
are
going
to
do
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping
today
to
shuffle
our
lineup
just
a
bit.
A
We
are
going
to
take
house
bill
or
actually
it's
a
house
joint
resolution
974..
It
is
off
notice
and
at
the
same
time
we
are
going
to
move
house
joint
resolution
0-9-7-3
to
the
front
of
our
calendar.
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And
then
we
are
going
to
let's
see.
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Then
we're
going
to
shuffle
we're
going
to
flip
items,
12
and
13
1987
is
going
to
become
13
and
22.
46
is
going
to
be
the
last
item
on
our
agenda,
we're
flipping
those
so
that
in
case
we
run
up
against
the
time
constraint.
We
will
be
able
to
deal
with
that.
So
without
objection,
we've
got
that
taken
care
of
now.
A
A
He
was
completed.
His
undergraduate
studies
at
mtsu
went
to
ut
center
for
health
sciences
in
memphis.
This
guy
has
been
educated
all
over
our
state
after
graduating
from
pharmacy
school.
He
returned
to
the
clinton
community
where
he
began
his
pharmacy
practice
at
methodist
medical
center
of
oak
ridge.
He
served
as
co-chairman
of
their
institutional
review
board
as
well
as
their
ethics
committee,
their
cancer
committee,
as
well
as
their
palliative
care
team,
he's
also
served
as
chairman
of
the
board
of
directors
for
the
methodist
medical
center
foundation.
A
He's
a
longtime
pharmacist
in
oak
ridge.
He
has
done
been
very
active
in
his
community
and
is
now
retired.
So,
if
y'all
would,
if
you
would
welcome
potential
commissioner
good
to
the
to
the
podium
here,
oh
we
need
first,
we
need
to
get
into
proper
posture.
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A
C
Would
you
have
a
seat
and
please
state
your
name
and
a
few
remarks
opening
up?
So
thank
you
and
we're
out
of
session.
So
here
we
go.
C
That
come
through
okay,
yeah,
yeah,
okay
yeah,
so
my
name
is
clay
good,
I'm
a
pharmacist
from
clinton
tennessee
I
practiced
for
nearly
40
years
in
long-term
care
and
also
a
hospital
pharmacy
at
methodist
medical
center,
basically
retired
from
that
now.
Unless
some
of
my
colleagues
need
a
vacation
day-
and
I
would
very
honored
to
be
here
and
and
if
possible,
I
look
forward
to
serving
the
great
state
of
tennessee
on
the
public
utility
commission.
C
A
Ladies,
mr
goodwood
look
forward
to
seeing
you
serve
and
and
help
out
your
fellow
tennesseans.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
All
right
we're
going
to
get
into
our
regular
calendar
now,
as
as
we
have
after
we've
shuffled
it
up,
this
will
be
house
bill
2434
by
represent
chairman
farmer,
chairman
farmer.
You
are
recognized.
A
We
have
the
bill
and
proper
posture
in
front
of
us.
We
care
to
tell
us
about
2434.
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Yeah
and
thank
you,
mr
chair
and
committees,
it's
a
it's
an
honor
and
privilege
to
be
here
in
front
of
this
committee
this
morning.
Do
we
have
is
amendment
one
five,
seven,
one
two
on
the
bill.
A
We
need
to
put
it
on
in
the
full
committee
chairman
farmer,
but
yes
well,
that
is
the
drafting
code.
We
have
we're
calling
it
house
amendment
two:
okay,
we've
got
a
motion
on
the
amendment,
there's
a
second
on
the
amendment.
So
let's
talk
about
the
amendment.
A
All
right
members
I'll
tell
you
what
it
rewrites
the
bill,
though,
doesn't
it
it
does
all
right,
let's
just
get
it
get
it
on
there
and
then
we'll
talk
about
the
bill,
although
without
objection
all
those
in
favor
of
house
amendment
two
coded
o15712
being
attached
to
two
four
three
four,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed.
No!
It's
on
there.
Now.
Let's
talk
about
the
bill.
Yeah.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
members,
and
I
have
something
prepared
and
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
this,
because
I
think
I
hope
that
it
would
answer
all
the
questions
or
at
least
alleviate
most
of
the
concerns
that
some
members
may
have
had
number
one.
This
amendment
addresses
the
concern
of
chairman
zachary
about
cities
that
don't
have
police
officers
to
enforce
ordinances
and
regulations
and
also
changes
the
grammatical
error.
E
These
are
not
short-term
rentals
either.
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
confusion,
because
there
are
some
short-term
rental
spills
that
came
through
this
does
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
overnight
stays,
and
I
want
to
make
that
very,
very
clear.
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
overnight
stays
or
short-term
rentals
of
a
home.
E
This
bill
prohibits
sleeping
accommodations
and
the
renting
of
the
entire
property.
The
bill
also
only
allows
us
to
be
done
at
a
property
owner's
primary
residence,
no
vacant
investment
properties,
no
vacation
homes,
property
owners
and
renters
still
have
to
follow
all
the
local
laws
and
regulations
enacted
in
this
bill.
If
they
don't
locker,
local
governments
can
stop
the
individual
property
owners
from
renting
their
property
again.
So
three
strikes
you're
out
this
bill
is
perspective
only
and
doesn't
apply
to
hoas
or
communities
with
restrictions
on
rental
rentals
currently
in
place.
E
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
looked
at
this
bill
over
the
weekend
and
actually
my
husband
and
I
had
seen
an
article.
I
think
it
was
in
the
wall
street
journal
about
a
company
that
does
something
like
this
and
we
looked
up
and
there's
actually
homes
in
our
community
that
are
renting
out
their
swimming
pool,
and
things
like
that.
But
when
I
looked
at
this
law,
is
it
are?
F
Are
you
all
just
trying
to
create
a
situation
where
there's
consistent,
there's
consistent
regulation
across
the
state
so
that
it's
maybe
easier
to
comply
with?
If
everybody
has
the
same
understanding?
Is
that
what
the
purpose
of
this
is
because
I
I
never
dreamed
that
we
would
need
a
law
like
this,
but
I
also
never
dreamed
that
people
you
know
just
like
rent
out
their
basketball
court
at
their
house.
I
never
occurred
to
me.
E
For
sure,
and
and
thank
you
so
much
and
and
represent
lynn-
I
appreciate
that
question.
You
know
a
little
background
this.
This
really
came
about
during
cove,
but
you
know
when
our
swim,
public
swim,
swim
pulls
and
our
parks
close
down.
As
we
all
know,
some
of
our
some
of
our
state
pools
are
not
going
to
open
back
up
right.
So
there
became
a
need
for
folks
to
bring
their
families
and
and
friends
to
come
and
have
have
venues
or
not.
Excuse
me
wrong.
E
Word
have
parties
for
their
children,
maybe
at
a
private
pool
at
a
private
residence,
but
in
this
bill
the
intent
of
this
is
to
put
structure
in
place,
put
some
ground
ground
the
groundwork
in
place
for
guidelines,
just
just
as
you
said,
so
as
of
right
now,
there's
just
really
nothing
out
there.
So
what
we've
done?
We
came
in
we're
going
to
put
a
some
structure
in
place
and
some
some
fundamental
guidelines
on
what
can
and
can't
be
done,
but
and
also
leave
a
massive
amount
of
discretion
to
the
local
municipalities.
A
F
What
kinds
of
things
do
you
imagine?
A
local
municipality
would
have
the
discretion
to
you
know,
regulate
sure.
E
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
sharon.
Farmer.
Thank
you
for
your
work
on
this.
We
worked
for
about
two
weeks
working
through
some
challenges.
I
know
even
your
own
community
had
some
had
some
issues
they
wanted
to
work
through,
but
this
bill
ensures
local
control.
It
just
puts
some
parameters
around
it.
I
think
which
is
extremely
important
for
communities
you
guys
have
been
willing.
You
have
been
willing
to
hear
all
the
concerns
from
those
in
the
committee
and
put
those
within
the
amendment.
So
thank
you
for
your
work
on
the
ability
to
support
it.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
interesting
that
my
chairman
just
said:
it
gave
local
control
and
so
that's
the
problem.
I
think
I
was
having
with
it
that
it
kind
of
took
away
the
ability
for
locals
to
decide
based
on
their
own
individual
needs
for
their
communities
looks
like
to
me.
This
was
going
to
restrict
our
ability
to
have
some
control.
So
could
you
clarify
that
for
me,
mr
chairman,
mr.
E
Sponsor
sure,
and-
and
and
thank
you
for
that
question-
I
and
I
think,
looking
at
it
like
this,
if,
if
individuals
violate
this,
you
know
the
first
time
they're
they're
unallowed,
to
participate
in
this
for
30
days,
then
60
days
and
nine
days
and
the
fourth
time
they
can
be
banned
from
allowing
to
use
this.
This
process
right
and
that
I
mean
locals,
can
set
limits
on
property
size.
You
know
the
amount
of
folks
that
are
in
there.
E
You
know
I
mean
we've
opened
the
bill
up
to
allow
them
to
you
know
on
the
parameters
of
you
know
only
basketball
and
basketball
courts.
You
know,
if
you
have
a
big
big
backyard
with
a
pull
in
or
something
they
can't
have
a
wedding
back
there.
You
know,
so
it
really.
It
really
just
sets
a
base.
This
the
base
guidelines
on
what
this,
what
they
can
do,
but
the
locals
really
we're
not
tying
their
hands
in
really
any
way
to
enforce
this.
G
Got
a
follow-up
later.
Yes,
I
do
yeah
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
wasn't
meaning
in
terms
of
tying
their
hands
to
enforce
it.
What
what
I'm
saying
is
there
may
be
areas
within
the
city
that
a
city
may
want
to
restrict
the
ability
to
do
this
based
on
its
historical
nature,
based
on
you
know,
being
a
historical
landmark
or
or
close
by
there
may
be
some
things
that
they
want
to
put
in
place,
and
it
looks
like
this
would
preempt
them
from
being
able
to
do
it
in
our
local
communities.
G
That's
that's
the
point
I'm
trying
to
get
to
so
does
it
do
that?
Does
it
limit,
say
the
city
of
memphis
from
determining
that
in
this
particular
area,
based
on
what
we
see
for
our
city,
that
this
is
not
something
we
want
to
have
or
I
mean,
can
you
explain
that
portion
of
the
bill.
E
Chairman
farmer
yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
It's
a
hard
question
to
answer,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
moving
parts
there
to
what
you
just
asked
me.
You
know
what
what
part
of
the
city
is
it
is
it
on.
Is
it
on
city
property?
Is
there
that
I
really
don't?
I
don't
know,
but
unfortunately,
sometimes
when
we
pass
legislation
we
kind
of
have
to
once
it
gets
enacted
and
once
it
starts
working
through.
If
we
see
that
there's
issues
there,
we
weren't
happy
to
come
back
and
and
and
revisit
it.
G
Yes
later,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
mr
chairman,
would
you
be
willing
for
us
to
move
these
five
spaces
and
try
to
get
an
answer?
Please
just
a
few
spaces
and
just
see
if
I
can
get
an
answer
on
that,
would
you
be
willing
to
do
that?
I'm
not
trying
to
kill
it
or
none
of
that
I'm
just.
That
is
something
that's
important
to
me,
and
so
I
was
just
curious
if
we
can
at
least
have
a
couple
of
minds
to
think
about
it
right.
Quick,
are
you
willing
to
do
that?
Mr
chairman.
E
Mr
I'd
rather
move
forward
now
this
is
double
referred
to
local,
so
it's
not.
We
would
have
some
more
time
before
it
comes
in
front
of
another
committee,
another
full
committee,
so
I'd
rather
go
ahead
and
move
forward.
Today
we
have,
as
chairman
zachary
said,
we
rolled
this
two,
if
not
three
weeks
already
to
work
a
lot
of
things
out,
so
I'd
like
for
it
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward.
Now,
if
we
could,
mr
chair.
G
H
H
Mr
chairman,
some
of
my
senior
citizens
contacted
me
and
let's
say
you
have
a
group
of
young
people
living
it
at
this
locale
and
then
you
got
some
senior
citizens
in
the
neighborhood
next
to
them
or
across
the
street,
or
what
have
you
and
some
of
these
enterprising
young
people
decide
to
make
this
a
venture
where
they
decide
they're
going
to
generate
a
substantial
amount
of
revenue
or
potentially
wealth
at
that
point,
what
is
the
protection
for
the
senior
citizens
that
are
living
next
door
to
this,
and
we
we
I
mean,
we've
all
been
young
and
some
of
us
still
are,
and
but
the
devil
is
how
do
we
protect
the
senior
citizens
and
their
property
in
this
and
there's
sanctity
at
that
point
in
time,
mr
sponsor.
E
So
once
again,
I
think
that
may
go
back
to
a
deed
restriction
or
some
sort
of
homeowners
association
to
where
some
young
individuals
wouldn't
be
able
to
move
into
a
senior
center
and
just
start
start
partying
there.
So
I
I
think
I
don't
think
that
would
be
an
issue.
I
may
be
wrong,
but
but
I
would
hope
that
I
hope
it
wouldn't
be.
H
The
way
I'm
reading
it,
mr
representative,
that
it's
it
could
be
in
any
neighborhood
that
had
a
pool,
a
basketball
court
tennis
court
and
they
wanted
to
utilize
that
property
in
that
manner.
That's
that's
what
I'm
sensing,
and
so,
when
you
buy
your
property
you're
looking
for
a
certain
kind
of
you
know,
calmness
a
certain
kind
of
atmosphere
in
your
in
your
in
your
in
your
neighborhood
and
your
property
and
potentially
for
senior
citizens.
I
do
see
some
challenges
there.
H
I
really
do
for
senior
citizens
because
it
could
be
in
any
neighborhood
from
the
way
I'm
the
way
I'm
reading
it.
The
other
thing
is
that,
if
just
say,
if
I'm
a
smart
guy
today
with
algorithms
and
all
the
things
that
we
do,
what,
if
I
decide
as
a
business
person,
an
entrepreneur,
I
want
to
get
about
100
of
these
150
bees,
and
I
want
to
have
them.
H
There
may
be
x
number
in
one
neighborhood
or
x,
number
another
neighborhood
and
then
inundate
them
in
another
neighborhood,
where
I
could
find
this
particular
deal
to
me,
could
possibly
change
the
complexion
of
that
neighborhood,
because
I
could
make
a
lot
of
money.
I
could
put
up
the
money
for
150
to
200
of
these
and
just
do
it
on
a
regular
basis.
E
And-
and
thank
you
for
that
question-
thank
you
mr
chair.
We
we
have
reduced
this
down
to
primary
residences.
Only
so
unless
that's
your
primary
residence,
which
is
one
you
couldn't
buy,
99
more,
so
be
only
precluded
to
that
one
restricted
down
to
that
one
residence
that
you
actually
reside
in,
where
you
get
your
mail
or
your
driver's
license
sent
to
where
you
vote
from
you're,
going
to
do
that
in
one
place
representative.
H
H
I
am
generating
revenue
by
contracting
with
you,
you
you
you
throughout,
and
so
I
don't
live
there,
but
I
can
generate
enough
revenue
over
and
over
and
over
again
and
god
forbid,
somebody's
coming
in
and
you
got
your
driveway
blocked
and
and
because
these
are
residential
areas,
it
can
create
a
little
bit
of
consternation.
I
should
say
a
lot
of
consternation.
I
think
you
know.
I
think
we
need
to
really
be.
H
You
know.
Super
conscientious
of
what
we're
doing
to
other
properties
may
not
really
like
this.
This
is.
It
just
gives
me
a
little
bit
of
a
concern
based
upon
what
what's
been
shared
with.
Mr
chairman,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
We've
got
others
to
go
to
representative
manas.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
to
the
sponsor,
thank
you
for
all
of
your
hard
work.
I
know
that
you've
worked
yeah
very
a
lot
of
time
on
this
and
and
I
get
the
the
covenants
from
the
hoa
perspective.
I
But
I
guess
I
want
to
make
sure
if
there
are
any
deed
restrictions
whatsoever
and
can
and
and
if
you
might
just
give
us
an
example
of
deed
restrictions
from
your
perspective,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
any
deed
restrictions,
if
there's
a
development
that
has
any
kind
of
deed
restriction
at
all,
would
they
be
exempt
from?
I
guess
doing.
Business
such
as
swimply.
A
E
Right,
you
know,
and-
and
thank
you
for
that
question
representative
manus,
I'm
thinking
back
on
a
deed
restriction
that
would
be
close
to
something
like
this,
and
that
would
be
a
deed
restriction
on
overnight
rentals
right
and
it
says
no
nightly
rentals
in
your
in
your
deeds.
You
develop
a
subdivision
there
so
that
the
recession
could
say
you
know.
No,
no,
you
know
no
venues,
no
venue
sharing,
no,
no
rentals,
no
property
sharing
something
no
residential
amenity
sharing.
I
So
I
guess
it
has
to
be
specific
to
overnight,
or
I
guess
the
limit
of
people,
but
it
couldn't
be
so
it
wouldn't
include
any
deed
restrictions.
It
wouldn't,
if
you
had
a
deed
restriction
such
as
the
home,
must
be
all
brick
that
would
that
would
not
exclude
this
yes
or
no.
Mr
sponsor.
E
J
Thank
you
chairman.
This
goes
if
it
passed
through
from
here.
It
goes
a
local
government
right
chairman.
That
is
correct.
Sir
okay,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
disruption
in
the
marketplace.
We
see
a
launch
tennessee
across
the
street.
I
see
that
new
cadillac.
What's
it
called
the
reek
lyric,
how
you
say
the
new
cadillac
electric
cadillac.
I
see
some
electric
vehicles
across
the
street
a
lot
of
disruption
in
the
marketplace.
J
Some
could
argue.
This
is
a
great
bill.
Some
could
argue
it's
terrible
bill.
Some
could
argue
it's
property
rights,
but
what
about
the
prop
the
rights
for
the
neighbors
that
are
next
door
from
what
I
hear
about
this
bill?
It
it
it's
not,
it
wouldn't
go
in
every
subdivision.
It
wouldn't
be
allowed
in
any
subdivision.
It
wouldn't
be
it'd,
be
prohibited
in
areas
that
have
hoas.
Am
I
right.
E
You're
tremendous
I've
been
sure,
and
you
are
correct
and
back
I
want
to.
I
want
to
clarify
one
thing
you
could
couple
and
back
to
representative
mannis
the
response
I
gave
him.
I
was
wrong.
I
think
you
could
couple
that
with
with
all
brick.
You
know
within
your
subdivision,
you
say
we
know,
homes
that
are
that
are
x,
y
and
z.
Hoa
could
probably
come
back
in
and
preclude
homes
that
are
certain
mount
brick
certain
amount
and
exclude
this
as
well.
J
Well,
I
just
I
just
want
to
ask
the
hoas
currently
subdivision
with
hoas.
This
would
be
prohibited
right.
J
In
areas
that
have
d
restrictions,
I
mean
my
understanding.
It
would
only
be
for
subdivisions
with
the
large
larger
lot
sizes,
and
am
I.
A
Correct
excuse
me
representative,
sparks
mr
bill
sponsor.
Let
me
let
me
clarify
something.
Let
me
make
sure
that
legal
concurs
with
it.
Will
the
only
way
an
hoa
or
property
owner
association
would
exclude.
This
would
be
by
an
act
including
that
into
their
covenants.
This
bill
does
not
preclude
them
from
doing
that,
but
it
does
it's
not
automatically
precluded
without
a
voting
action
by
the
hoa.
A
Would
my
legal
experts
agree
with
that
amateur
analysis
and
we
will
go
out
a
session
to
hear
this
answer.
C
Jamie
shanks
office,
legal
services
it'd
either
be
by
an
act
by
the
hoa
or
there
possibly
could
be
pre-existing
conditions
via
the
hoa
documents
that
talk
broadly
towards
the
renting
of
the
property
or
aspects
of
the
property
or
uses
of
the
property.
So
it
probably
it
could
be
existing
or
it
could
be
something
that
they
pass
after
this.
C
No,
the
the
language
doesn't
say
just
because
you're
an
hoa,
it
says
contracts
or
this.
The
chapter
does
not
apply
to
contracts
or
agreements
between
or
among
individuals
or
private
entities
related
to
the
use
of
or
restrictions
upon,
real
property,
and
then
it
includes
but
doesn't
limit
it
to
the
hoas.
J
J
Well,
I
heard
another
member
of
the
the
today
talking
about
some
of
our
state
parks
are
closing
their
pools.
I've
seen
it
at
henry
horton,
even
though
this
is
disruptive
in
the
marketplace.
In
a
sense
I
know
one
of
my
life
greatest
moments
was
going
to
the
swim
pool
as
a
kid.
My
neighbor
happened
on
the
country,
club,
major
walls
and
his
wife
would
carry
us
a
swim
pool.
Some
of
my
best
family
moments
were
at
the
swim
pool
almost
sports
legislation
to
get
it
to
local.
J
I
want
to
hear
more
discussion
and
I'm
going
to
reach
back
to
my
locals
and
see
what
what
their
position
is.
Laverne.
I
want
to
see
what
they
they,
if
they'll,
take
positions,
smyrna
and
murfreesboro,
but
I'm
going
to
support
it
to
get
to
keep
the
discussion
going
and
I'd
like
to
hear
what
what
local
government
committee
had
to
say
about
it.
Thank
you.
A
All
righty
representative
vital.
K
Mr
sponsor,
I
have
a
couple
observations
and
then
a
quick
question.
First
of
all,
to
most
property
owners,
their
home
is
their
single
largest
investment
and
they
bought
that
to
have
privacy
to
build
personal
wealth
and
have
a
place
of
sanctuary.
K
I
think
there's
three
issues
real
quickly,
there's
a
property
rights
issue,
and
I
understand
where
you're
trying
to
go
with
this,
for
people
having
the
the
right
to
do
what
they
want
with
their
property
at
the
same
time,
there's
the
appropriateness
of
a
neighborhood
and
what
goes
on
there
and
then
compatibility
of
the
other
folks
who've
lived
in
there
long
term
or
short
term
to
create
some
sense
of
neighborhood.
K
E
E
So,
if
you're
saying
hey,
I'm
going
to
bring
40
people
to
my
backyard
at
a
bonfire,
it
sounds
like
an
event,
so
I
think
that
would
be
considered
an
event.
It's
not
a
use,
as
the
family
would
use
it
a
family
of
four
a
family
of
three
a
family
of
five.
I
think
that
would
be
restricted
within
those
within
those
guidelines
of
persons.
You
know,
so
I
think
your
example
would
probably
rise
to
the
level
of
an
event
there
right.
K
I'm
trying
to
understand
how
the
platform
would
discern
between
a
an
event
and
a
family
leasing
it
a
family
could
lease
it
for
a
bonfire.
A
family
could
lease
it
for
a
swimming
event,
but
also
you
could
have
a
birthday
party
for
your
child.
It's
someone's
house
that
you've
leased
a
pool,
and
now
you
have
20
small
children
coming
with
their
parents
to
an
event,
but
it's
for
a
family.
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
that
for
compatibility
and
appropriateness
to
a
community
right.
E
Hey
mister
and
I'm
looking
in
to
represent
battle,
I
don't
see
a
spot
on
definition
to
what
an
event
qualifies
as
in
this
piece
of
legislation,
so
I
think
that
goes
back
to
the
municipality's
discretion
of
what
an
event
is
and
that's
for
them
to
determine.
Well,
is
this
event
or
not?
You
know
this
this.
This
doesn't
pin
them
down
on
anything
in
one
way
or
another.
A
F
Representative
lynn,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
You
know
wilson
county
we're
a
beautiful
old
hickory
lake
and
a
lot
of
homes
on
the
lake
have
swimming
pools
and
all
and
before
we
got
a
hold
of
the
vrbos,
it
was
pandemonium
at
these
homes
with
the
swimming
pools
on
the
lake
and
the
boats,
and
all
of
that
and
wilson
county
was
free
to
pass
some
regulations.
We
passed
some
regulations
here
and
now
it's
under
control.
We
are
at
a
happy
medium.
F
My
local
county
commissioners
and
city
commissioners
were
getting
phone
calls
and
it
really
was
a
very
unpleasant
time.
It
was
very
unpleasant.
We
seem
to
be
at
a
happy
medium
with
the
vrbos,
and
perhaps
you
know
this
is
an
emerging
business
where
people
are
just
renting
their
pool
or
renting
their.
F
You
know
their
their
hot
tub
or
whatever
it
seems
like
that
might
be
an
emerging
business
and
I
guess
it
is
separate
from
vrbo's,
and
so
I
frankly
I
when
I
saw
this
bill,
I
thought
it
kind
of
made
sense,
because
I
really
don't
want
to
go
back
to
the
pandemonium
that
we
had
a
few
years
back
where
you
know
we
were
just
getting
phone
calls
all
the
time
and
it
was
awful
for
the
neighbors
who
lived
in
the
neighborhood.
So
thank
you,
mr
chairman,.
A
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
other
questions
for
the
bill's
sponsor,
not
seeing
any?
We
are
going
to
be
voting
on
house
bill
2434
to
send
it
on
to
local
government,
but,
prior
to
this
vote,
let
me
let
me
speak
candidly
with
my
folks
here
on
the
diocese
when
we
vote.
Let
your
yes
be
yes,
and
your
no
be
no
and
speak
in
the
calm
tones
that
we
normally
address
we're
not
going
to
get
in.
A
I
don't
want
to
have
to
sit
here
and
say
well
who
yelled
louder
their
no
versus
who
speaks
a
yes
louder.
I
just
need
to
be
able
to
hear
and
discern
I
have
tinnitus
in
this
here.
I
just
want
to
be
able
to
make
a
clear
call,
so
I
don't
want
to
be.
I
don't
want
anybody
to
be
loading
up.
The
ballot
boxes
on
hollering
nose
louder,
so
just
unless
people
want
to
use
their
outside
voice
with.
Yes,
we
want
to
get
into
a
shout
out
a
cheer
off
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
A
We
can
do
that,
but
that
would
be
what
I
would.
Your
chair
would
like
to
to
ask
that
of
my
members.
Speak
clearly
and
concisely
so
that
I
can
hear
so
that
there
can't
be
any
questions
about.
As
I
make
my
mind
up,
representative
towns,
you
look
like
you're
about
to
bust.
If
I
don't
call
your
name,
camera.
H
A
A
A
I
believe
that's
the
same
one
we're
looking
at.
Let
got
a
motion
second
we're
going
to
attach
that
to
the
bill
since
it
rewrites
the
bill,
all
those
in
favor
of
attaching
14
630
to
house
bill
2114,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
no
eyes
have
it
alrighty,
sir
you're,
in
proper
posture.
Let's,
let's
hear
about
21-14
all.
L
A
All
righty,
we
like
transparency
around
here
any
questions
for
the
bill
sponsor
hearing
none,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
passing
2114
onto
calhoun
rules,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
oppose
no
hearing,
none
21-14
heads
off
to
calendar
and
rules.
Thank
you,
chairman
and
committee
representative
byrd,.
A
We
got
a
motion
segment
on
the
bill.
It's
traveling!
Well,
it's
not
traveling
with.
We
need
to
attach
amendment
one
and
does
your
drafting
code
show
zero
one?
Four,
four,
three
three?
Yes,
sir
all
righty!
Thank
you,
sir.
Let's
that
rewrites
the
bill.
Let's
get
that
thing
all
righty,
all
in
favor
of
attaching
amendment
one
coded
one.
Four,
four,
three
three
to
house
bill
1664.,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed,
no
you're
ready
to
go
representative
bird.
Tell
us
about
this
bill.
Okay,.
C
This
house
bill
1664,
came
to
me
from
a
tennessee
businessman
that
was
attacked
by
his
competitor.
C
His
competitor
created
two
thousand
fake
reviews
within
two
years
and
after
after
the
businessman
spending
150
000,
they
did
reach
a
settlement,
but
this
bill
puts
a
little
teeth
into
it,
and
hopefully
it
will
discourage
a
competitor
from
putting
false
reviews
online
and
and
the
company
that
was
doing
that
they
actually
ran
two
smaller
companies
out
of
business.
By
doing
that
as
well.
C
So
this
is,
you
know,
I
know
whenever
I
go
out
of
town
or
buy
something.
The
first
thing
that
I
do
is
google
reviews
on
the
company
that
I'm
buying
something
from,
and
so
this
does
have
a
negative
and
a
positive
impact
on
on
consumers
buying
things,
and
this
this
bill
would
make
the
fines
triple
from
five
hundred
dollars
to
fifteen
hundred
dollars,
and
it
also
give
the
judge
some
flexibility
in
awarding
damages
to
the
plaintiff
as
well.
A
All
righty
everybody's
heard
a
description
of
the
bill
from
representative
byrd.
I
might
say
this
sounds
like
a
five-star
bill
to
me
all
the
hearing.
No
other
questions,
all
those
in
favor
of
voting
house
bill
1664
on
to
calendar
rules,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed,
no
five-star
bill
heads
off
to
calendar
and
rules.
Thank.
A
Next
up
we're
going
to
hear
house
bill
2283
from
representative
beck,
we
got
a
motion.
Second,
on
the
bill.
I
believe
we
also
have
an
amendment
number
one
coded
zero
one.
Three,
four,
five
three
is
that
that's
correct,
mr
chairman,
all
right,
we
got
a
motion
and
second
on
the
amendment.
Let's
get
that
thing
attached
to
this
bill
since
it
rewrites
the
bill.
All
those
in
favor
of
amendment
number,
one
coded
one,
three,
four
five
three
being
attached
to
2283,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
impose.
M
M
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
The
training
who
certifies
the
training
for
these
folks
and
what
will
they
get
issued?
Mr
sponsor.
M
H
M
At
what
I've
learned
representing
towns
is
there's
no
distinction
between
bouncers
and
security
guards.
The
only
distinction
is,
you
have
unarmed
guards,
and
you
have
armed
guards.
The
the
armed
guards
are
required
already
for
this
type
of
training
and
we're
really
not
doing
anything.
Besides
adding
cpr
to
those
group
of
people,
the
unarmed
have
no
training,
and
thus
we
have
a
situation
that
ended
in
this
young
man's
death
with
chairman.
Yes,
sir,.
H
I
think
that
anytime,
you
have
consumption
of
you,
know,
alcoholic
beverages
and
so
forth.
You
have
people
that
are
supposedly
trying
to
keep
everybody
safe,
it'd,
be
good
to
have
training
for
all
involved
to
keep
it
de-escalated.
Thank
you
for
the
bill.
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
this
bill
I
appreciate
first
one.
Let
me
thank
chairman
powers
for
his
assistance
on
this
bill.
We
had
some
really
good
conversations
with
the
university
of
tennessee
at
knoxville.
They
do
plan
on
conducting
a
true
summer
study
on
this
bill
and
and
conference
to
look
at
blockchain
and
the
ways
in
which
tennessee
can
become
a
leader
in
this
technology.
D
D
D
Thank
you,
so
we
passed
in
2018
a
piece
of
legislation
dealing
with
blockchain
and
smart
contracts.
I
was
very
important
piece
of
legislation
that
put
tennessee
on
the
map
for
blockchain
and
and
that
sort
of
defined
the
what
and
the
how
of
how
blockchain
works.
They're
still,
you
know
the
question
around
the:
how
and
the
who
excuse
me
around
the
who,
and
so
what
this
does
is
it's.
The
bill
is
amended
to
deal
with
the
regulation
of
what's
called
decentralized,
autonomous
organizations
or
dows
daos.
D
Essentially,
a
a
dow
is
an
organization
represented
by
rules
encoded
as
a
transparent
computer
program
and
controlled
by
organizational
organizational
members.
As
the
rules
are
embedded
in
the
code,
no
managers
are
needed,
thus
removing
any
bureaucracy
or
hierarchy
hurdles.
The
key
to
understanding
these
organizations
is,
in
the
word,
automated
there's
automated
aspects
of
the
organizations
essentially
they're
programmable.
D
The
reason
it's
so
important
is
that
dows
are
already
being
formed
in
the
state
and
around
the
country
they're
already
being
transacted
with
making
automated
decisions
already
hiring
people
etc.
For
those
of
you
who
are
in
the
subcommittee,
we've
heard
testimony
from
a
couple
different
groups,
they're
already
creating
these
organizations
and
and
spoke
to
the
potential
that
this
has
for
the
state
of
tennessee
and
given
how
new
the
concept
is.
D
There's
been
very
little
oversight
over
these
organizations
so
regulating
and
legally
recognizing
these
organizations
by
state
incentivizes
these
organizations
to
not
only
do
business
in
the
state
but
to
be
answerable
to
reasonable
constraints
and
regulations
as
any
other
business
or
organization
of
the
state.
Are
they
ensure
that
people
that
are
hiring
the
business
they're
doing
business
with
and
entities
they're
working
with
are
known?
I
believe
these
technologies
will
bring
cutting-edge
business
talent
into
the
state,
but
it's
equal
important
that
we
recognize
dao
is
in
order
to
regulate
these
organizations.
A
A
A
As
we
keep
rolling
along
here
on
what
may
be
our
final
day,
we
are
going
to
be
hearing
about
house
bill
2078
by
vice
chairman
bricken,
as
well
as
its
amendment
number
one,
which
is
coded
14
362,
which
makes
the
bill.
Do
I
hear
a
motion
on
the
amendment
motion?
Second,
we're
going
to
attach
that
and
then
let
you
discuss
it
all
in
toe
toe
in
one
time
how
about
that
advice?
Jeremy!
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
All
righty,
all
those
in
favor
of
attaching
the
amendment
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
house,
bill
2078,
basically
will
prohibit
tennessee
employers
for
applying
for
and
getting
a
federal,
14
c
sub
minimum
wage
license
exemption.
So
so
this
will
say
all
tennessee.
Employers
will
be
paying
least
minimum
wage,
no
matter
if
you're
disabled.
So
that
is
the
nature
of
the
bill.
A
All
righty,
thank
you,
sir.
Do
we
have
any
questions
for
the
bill's
sponsor,
seeing
none
we're
going
to
call
the
question
all
those
in
favor
of
sending
house
bill
2078
on
calendar
and
rules,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed.
No,
the
eyes
have
it.
We
are
off
to
calvin
rules
with
that.
One
chairman
boyd
house
bill
2288.
A
We
have
been
looking
forward
to
hearing
this
one
house
bill,
I
mean
chairman
boyd.
We've
got
some
amendments
that
need
to
be
attached,
though.
Don't
we
yes,.
C
Mr
chairman,
I've
I've
got
an
amendment
drafting
code,
zero,
one,
six,
zero.
Six
three
is
the
one
we're
going
to
adopt.
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee
house,
bill
2288,
as
amended,
would
make
a
change
to
the
timeshare
statute.
Currently
there's
a
10-day
period
where,
if
you
have
buyer's
remorse
you
can
get
out
of
it,
and
currently
you
can
hand
deliver
a
notice
of
cancellation.
You
can
mail
a
notice
of
cancellation.
C
What
this
bill
would
seek
to
do
is
to
add
a
third
option,
which
is
that
you
can
send
notice
of
cancellation
via
electronic
mail
so
that
it
would
be
time
stamped
to
give
proof
of
it.
Mr
chairman,
I'll
take
any
questions.
F
C
Board,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
No,
the
way
the
language
is
written,
representative
lynn,
it
would,
it
would
have
to
be
an
email.
A
A
As
we
continue
our
progress
today,
we
are
now
going
to
hear
from
chairman
powers
regarding
house
bill,
2369
motion
and
second
have
been
made
on
the
bill.
You're
in
great
posture.
A
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
house,
bill
2369
designates
social
media
platforms
as
common
carriers.
L
It
comes
to
us
from
a
growing
number
of
concerns
and
outrage
from
our
constituents
around
our
state,
who
have
been
censored
blocked,
banned
by
big
tech,
a
primary
venue
for
speech
and
the
sharing
of
ideas.
The
structure
of
this
bill
is
built
on
an
opinion
that
justin
justice,
clarence
thomas
wrote
in
binding
verse,
binding
verses
9..
L
If
part
of
the
problem
is
private,
concentrated
control
over
online
content
and
platforms
available
to
the
public,
then
part
of
the
solution
may
be
found
in
doctrines
that
limit
the
right
of
a
private
company
to
exclude
in
many
ways
digital
platforms
that
hold
themselves
out
to
the
public.
Resen
resemble
traditional
common
carriers.
L
The
missile
information
is,
there
is
no
growth
in
government,
and
this
is
actually
to
protect
free
speech
and
I've
been
working
with
the
teapuck
tennessee
public
utility
commission
on
the
positions
and
on
getting
this
in
the
proper
form.
We
believe
it
is
constitutional
under
us
code,
title
47,
chapter,
5,
sub,
chapter
2,
section
30..
A
D
D
Being
you
know
it's
being
removed,
or
I
mean
that's
my
my
biggest
concern
here
is:
you
might
have
an
organization,
that's
totally
out
of
line,
and
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
these
platforms
are
dealing
with
that.
I
just
want
to
see
if
that's
included,
sure.
L
Yeah,
I'm
sorry,
mr
chairman,
under
section
230
that
already
provides
immunity
from
civil
liabilities
for
information
service
providers
that
remove
or
restrict
content
that
they
deem
obscene
lewd,
excessively
violent,
harassing
or
otherwise
objectible
which
are
not
part
of
the
material
constitutionally
protected
as
they
loan
it
as
long
as
they
do
it
in
good
faith.
So
under
section
230
they're
already
able
to
do
this,
this
doesn't
affect
section
230
at
all.
D
L
Under
under
tat
under
the
common
carrier
law,
they
they
do
already
regulate
common
carriers
and
that's
what
we're
putting
this
particular
bill
under.
L
D
Yeah
and
and
again,
you
know
great
respect
for
you
and
some
of
the
things
you
know
you're
trying
to
do
with
this.
I
just
have
you
know,
concerns
with
with
the
way
this
could
become
overly
used,
and
I
just
think
that
we
should
allow
these
organizations
and
groups
to
you
know,
go
about
their
own
way
and
I
think
this
somewhat
to
a
certain
level
interferes
with
business,
and
so
that's
my
biggest
objection
to
it.
But
I
appreciate
your
explanation
all
right.
Thank
you.
H
Chairman,
thank
you
sponsor.
Yes,
a
question
for
you.
Are
we
trying
to
attempt
to
make
this
kind
of
like
a
public
utility
that
people
utilize
and-
and
we
have
some
say
so
as
a
government
over
it,
so
that
you
know
people
have
access
equal
access
to
it?
Is
that
would
that
kind
of
fitting
in
there
a
little
bit.
L
Yeah,
yes,
under
the
common
carrier
rule
it
would
be
like
a
public
utility
and
we've
done
things
like
that
in
the
past,
with
telephone
telegraph,
anything
that
makes
himself
a
public
accommodation,
they
would
fall
under
that
common
carrier
rule
so
yeah.
It
would
be
regulated
by
tennessee
public
utility,
commission
representative.
H
Think
of
it
is
that,
with
a
lot
of
this
technology
today
has
absolutely
gotten
interwoven
into
the
minutia
by
fabric,
and
not
only
am
I
obviously
warning
that
people
have
the
ability
to
say
what
they
want
to
say
not
just
with
this
medium
but
books,
newspapers,
magazines,
okay
and
and
all
things,
and
while
we
know
there's
going
to
be
some
lies
out
there.
It's
definitely
going
to
be
some
lies
out
there
no
question
about
it
because
you
know
human
beings,
that's
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
do.
H
L
Representative,
mr
sponsor,
so
that
they
would
file
a
complaint
if
they
were
de-platformed
or
shadow
banned
or
anything.
They
would
file
a
complaint
with
the
tennessee
utility,
the
public
utility
commission,
and
then
they
would
investigate
it
if
they
needed
to
turn
it
over
to
the
attorney
general's
to
for
an
appeal
or
like
a
process
like
that,
but
they
would
be
the
ones
that
would
actually
be
looking
at
the
complaint.
H
Townsend
well,
by
the
same
token,
at
that
point,
my
business
set
down
for
two
weeks,
three
weeks
or
a
month,
or
so,
if
it's,
if
they
have
the
ability
to
shut
it
down
for
that
period
of
time,
that's
creating
a
problem
and
some
of
those
margins,
profit
margins
so
thin.
You
may
end
up
going
out
of
business
so
why?
Why
would
if
it's
business,
I'm
talking
purely
business
now,
not
just
other
stuff
but
business?
Why
is
it
that
the
business
would
even
be
shut
down
at
all?
A
stop
john.
L
Powers
yeah-
this
doesn't
pertain
to
that.
This
is
only
pertains
to
political
views,
political
opinions,
political
viewpoints
that
that
have
been
banned
or
barred
or
de-platformed,
so
it
wouldn't
apply
to
that
type
of
business
got.
H
L
A
Thank
you,
sir.
Do
we
have
any
other
further
questions
chairman
representative
sparks
I'll,
see
you
down
there.
J
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
your
legislation.
I
don't
know
if
folks
know
what
what
being
shadow
band
is,
I
mean
the
most
people
know
what
being
shadow
band.
Is
you
know
it?
It's
real.
It
happens.
You
know
you
look
at
facebook,
it's
a
private
company.
So
is
it
really
a
first
amendment
issue?
You
know.
I
often
carry
these
little
first
amendment
cards
with
me.
You
know
I'm
back
at
mtsu
studying
communication
because
of
the
censorship
that
I
often
see
and
chairman
in
class.
J
Here
a
few
weeks
ago,
at
mtsu
john
bragg
school
of
journalism,
john
bragg,
was
the
chairman
of
finance
years
ago
was
a
kind
of
an
icon
in
our
community.
I
asked
the
students
about
joe
rogan's
situation.
I
said
how
many
feel
that
joe
rogan
needs
to
be
canceled,
and
I
was
just
really
impressed
with
the
students.
J
They
all
said
he
shouldn't
be
canceled
and
they
also
argued.
It
was
a
first
amendment
issue.
It's
a
private
employer.
I
do
think
shadow
ban
is
real.
I
do
think
censorship
is
real.
I
do
think
the
first
amendment
is
under
attack
in
this
country.
J
If
you
don't
believe
it
just
shadow
me
for
a
while,
I've
got
an
african-american
church
that
was
locked
out
for
two
years.
Two
years
they
were
locked
down,
white
church
built
the
church
donated
labor
love
to
built
it
word
of
life.
I
finally
had
to
beg
of
media
channel
4
covered
it
and
they
got
back
in
their
church.
Sadly,
they
lost
a
lot
of
the
congregation
had
another
first
amendment
issue
back
home
river
of
life.
I
made
a
video
pulled
up
on
youtube.
The
river
at
smyrna,
they're
being
threatened
to
have
their
doors
shut.
J
That's
in
america
today,
folks,
and
if
we,
if
we
lose
this,
this
experiment
in
democracy
is
over
with
I'm
telling
you.
I
know
the
second
amendment's
important
to
all
of
us,
but
if
we
don't
have
the
first
amendment,
we
can't
talk
about
the
second
amendment
and
I'm
not
going
to
quote
what
dave
chappelle
said
in
his
mark
twain
award.
It's
awesome
so
pull
it
up
on
youtube,
mark
mark
twain,
dave
chappelle,
but
I'm
going
to
support
it,
and
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Chairman.
A
We
appreciate
that
thumbs
up
representative
sparks
representative
manus.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
guess
I
am
I'm
struggling
trying
to
get
my
arms
around.
Are
social
media
companies
considered
common
carriers?
I
I
you
know
I'm
trying
to
see
how
we're
how
we're
forcing
that
in
there
just
a
couple
of
comments,
if
I
might
so,
and
the
companies
were
speaking
with
facebook
and
google,
and
maybe
there
are
several
others,
they
are
publicly
traded
companies,
but
they
are
still
private
companies
and
if
my
memory
serves
me
right,
we
have
said
many
times
before
that
we
can't
be
telling
private
companies
what
they
can
do
and
what
they
can't
do.
I
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
as
a
point
of
reference
and
also-
and
many
of
us
are
guilty,
including
myself,
we
can.
We
actually
can
go
on
social
media
and
we
choose
what
comments
we
want
to
delete
and
what
comments
we
want
to
filter
and
what
we
want
to
do.
How
is
this
going
to
apply
to
that?
So
we're
saying
that
facebook
and
google,
and
whoever
else
can't
do
that,
but
we
still
have
the
opportunity
to
to
kind
of
censor
what
we
want
shared
and
not
shared
right.
Chairman
powers.
L
Yes,
they
can.
They
can
still
do
that
under
section
230.
We
were
talking
about
what
what
they
can
go
ahead.
You
know
obscene
lewd,
violent
harassing,
you
know,
otherwise.
Objection
like
that
they'll
still
be
able
to
do
that.
Under
this
thing,
we
are
just
going
back
to
what
judge
clarence
thomas
opined-
and
he
said
in
this
court
long
ago,
suggested
that
regulations
are
placed
on
common
carriers
may
be
justified
even
for
industries,
not
historically
recognized
as
common
carriers
when
a
business
by
their
circumstance,
they
rise
from
private
to
a
public
concern.
L
So
it's
a
public
accommodation
thing
and,
mr
chairman,
if
I
might,
can
we
go
out
of
session
just
for
a
few
minutes?
I
have
somebody
here
that
can
go
into
greater
detail
about
this.
He
is
on
the
list
to
speak
today
from
the
heartland
organization.
So
if
you
don't
mind
if
we
could
go
out
at
a
session,
let
him
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
this
particular
subject
that.
A
Sounds
like
a
swell
idea,
chairman
powers.
Thank
you.
We
are
going
to
welcome
cameron.
Schulte
is
cameron
here,
cameron
schulte
to
the
platform.
Please,
sir,
whenever
you
begin
your
conversation
press
that
button
down
there
until
it
lights
up
red-
and
you
have
three
minutes
to
discuss
your
opinion,
but
right
now
we're
going
out
of
order
to
hear
you.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
cameron
schulte.
I'm
the
director
of
government
relations
at
the
heartland
institute
for
those
not
familiar.
The
heartland
institute
is
a
38
year
old,
non-profit
nonpartisan
research
organization
dedicated
to
finding
to
researching
and
analyzing
free
market
solutions
to
social
and
economic
challenges.
N
I
want
to
thank
chairman
powers
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
starting
a
debate
in
the
volunteer
state
on
this
on
this
issue.
You've
got
my
testimony
my
prepared
testimony
in
front
of
you,
so
I
will
not
go
into
real
recitation
of
that.
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
have
a
robust
and
more
organic
conversation
to
to
address
some
of
the
points
raised
by
members
of
the
committee
already
in
this
brief
discussion
that
we've
already
had.
N
To
some
of
the
concerns
that
representative
sparks
brought
up
about
the
first
amendment
and
others
have
brought
up.
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
that
the
antidote
to
speech
that
we
find
oftentimes
abhorrent
is
more
speech.
Indeed.
This
is
the
position
of
the
or
used
to
be
the
position
of
the
aclu
in
in
landmark
free
speech.
N
N
What
we're
seeing
is
that
free
speech
tends
to
in
in
the
what
has
become
the
de
facto
public
square,
because,
like
I
mentioned
97
of
all
social
media
traffic
flows
through
just
three
firms,
what
we're
seeing
is
the
de
facto
public
square
enforcing
in
oftentimes
government
narratives,
and
the
government
is
not
allowed
to
to
force
firms
or
to
collude
with
firms
to
engage
in
activity.
That
is
that
it
itself
is
otherwise
forbidden,
and
so
we
find
ourselves
today
debating
the
appropriate
response.
N
A
That's
okay,
because
we
we
don't
want
to
be
rude
to
folks,
but
at
the
same
time
we
treat
everybody
the
same,
but
we
will
ask
you
to
sit
there
and
ask
if
any
of
our
folks
here
have
any
questions
for
the
comment.
A
We
are
now
back
into
session.
I've
got
a
representative,
zachary
has
has
something
you'd
like
to
share.
B
B
B
So
when
we're
talking
about
social
media,
it
is
important
to
remember
that
the
federal
government
inserted
themselves
into
this
world
with
the
make
sure
I
say
this
right,
mr
chairman,
with
the
communications
decency
act
of
1996.
B
B
It's
important
to
remember
the
language
of
section
230,
which
you've
already
said,
which
you've
already
discussed,
which
only
references,
obscene,
lewd,
filthy,
excessively
violent,
harassing
or
objectional
material.
It
does
not
talk
about
point
of
views.
It
does
not
talk
about
viewpoints,
it
does
not
talk
about
political
opinion
right,
and
it's
also
important
to
remember.
Since
government
has
inserted
itself
in
this
process
that
on
july
15th
of
2021
jenn
pasake,
the
press
secretary
for
the
biden
administration
specifically
said
they
are
working
with
facebook
to
identify
misinformation.
B
Members
of
this
committee
and
every
tennessean
needs
to
know
that
I'm
not
concerned
about
what
they
think.
We
should
do.
I'm
concerned
about
what
my
constituents
think
that
we
should
do,
and
my
constituents
want
their
free
speech
protected.
They
don't
want
to
be
pl
d
or
shadow
banned
if
they
express
a
certain
political
viewpoint
and
we
have
the
opportunity
to
protect
them,
just
as
florida's
already
done
as
texas
has
already
other
states
have
taken
these
steps
and
as
you've
already
referenced
justice.
B
Thomas
clarence,
thomas
specifically
referenced
the
common
carrier
piece
saying
that
the
common
carrier
piece
is
is
requires
firms
to
transmit
the
speech
of
others,
not
to
speech,
speak
for
themselves
and
it
serves
all
residents.
Those
are
his
words.
All
regulating
them,
as
a
common
carrier
does
ensures
that
the
information
flows
back
and
forth.
B
So
we
have
to
do
what
we
can
as
a
state
to
protect
that
free
speech
and
to
protect
the
voice
of
tennesseans,
and
we
do
that
with
this
bill
and
we
provide
recourse
for
someone
if
they
are
d
platform
or
shadow
man,
we're
not
talking
about
the
censoring,
we
could
go
much
deeper
than
that,
but
regulating
them
as
a
common
carrier.
It
simply
allows
us
to
provide
tennesseans
with
a
recourse
if
they
are
de-platformed,
and
this
is
fantastic
legislation.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
it
this
benefits
all
tennesseans
right,
left
middle
wherever
they
are.
B
L
Chairman
powers,
yeah
thank
you
and
and
you're
exactly
right
about
the
misinformation
that
that's
what's
happened
to
so
many
people
that
they've
been
banned,
barred
or
completely
de-platformed
and
they're
making
the
decision.
This
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
section
230
but
they'll
just
say:
that's
misinformation.
They
met.
They
said
that
about
the,
for
example,
the
hunter
baden
laptop.
They
said
that
was
russian
disinformation.
We're
banning
that
the
new
york
post
came
out
with
a
story
about
that
they
banned
it.
L
The
new
york
times
just
came
out
three
days
ago
and
said
it
was
all
true,
and
so
for
one
year
they
banned
that
story,
and
you
know
there's
other
different,
and
this
really
should
be
a
bipartisan
bill,
because
not
only
like
the
knox
county
republican
club
got
banned
for
two
weeks,
but
also
recently
tulsi
gabbard,
a
democrat
nominee
for
president.
She
got
she
put
a
youtube
video
on
there
about
the
war
about
the
invasion
of
ukraine
by
russia.
It
got
taken
off
immediately
off
youtube.
L
Parlor
was
a
some
competition
that
came
up
at
one
point.
They
got
de-platformed
and-
and
that's
the
problem
with
this-
we're
talking
about
the
97
percent
that
they
have
a
monopoly
over
this,
because
you
cannot
form
another
company.
The
other
companies
have
tried
to
form
and
have
been
bought
out
by
the
larger
companies.
You
see
that
happen
all
the
time.
Facebook
has
done
a
great
job.
They
bought
out
91.
L
They
bought
that
91
companies,
but
they
did
a
great
great
job
and
I'll
mention
this
real
quickly,
just
some
of
the
things
that
they
have
banned.
This
is
only
the
last
quarter
of
last
year,
but
these
are
things
that
they
needed
to
take
off
and
they
did
four
million
pieces
of
drug
content.
This
is
one
quarter:
1.2
million
pieces
of
spam
content,
905
000
pieces
of
content
related
to
terrorism,
and
I
applaud
them
for
that.
L
That
was
true,
but
if
I
have
a
political
view
or
political
opinion
political
viewpoint
that
shouldn't
be
banned,
unless
it
it
falls
under
that
section
230,
where
it
is
offensive
in
that
particular
language.
So
this
men's
information,
the
common
carrier
law,
is
the
only
one
that
judge
thomas
said
would
pass
constitutional
muster.
It
was
the
only
one
only
way
to
regulate
this
and
and
get
through
if
it
ever
get
a
lawsuit
or
anything
like
that
and
get
through
the
courts.
They
said
that
that
was
the
way
to
do
it.
O
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
mr
sponsor,
as
we
heard
this
last
week
in
sub,
I
said
to
you,
then
I
applaud
the
your
goal,
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
the
the
process
and
have
just
a
couple
of
questions
and
an
observation.
I
guess
first
to
me,
as
one
of
my
other
colleagues
has
mentioned
already,
it's
it's
a
bit
of
a
stretch,
at
least
in
my
mind,
to
get
from
to
see
the
commonality
between
a
common
carrier
as
we
normally
define
it,
and
what
we're
talking
about
here.
O
Common
carriers,
in
my
mind,
provide
access,
we're
talking
and,
and
they
don't
look
at
content-
we're
looking
here
specifically
at
monitoring,
content
or
monitoring
those
who
are
attempting
to
to
monitor
content.
If
you
will
and
a
question,
if,
if
I,
as
I
understand
your
bill,
if
we
set
this
up,
that
would
be
implemented
through
the
public
service
commission,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
old
old.
O
It
would
be
monitored
through
t-puck.
Would
there
be
additional
re,
I'm
in
finance,
so
would
there
be
additional
resources
required
to
do
that.
L
L
Note,
but
it
even
says
the
proposed
legislation
may
result
in
an
increase
in
state
fees
and
fines
and
revenue
to
the
public
utility
commission.
However,
the
exact
timing
extent
you
know
they're
unable
to
determine
that
right
now,
but
what
the
goal
is
is
to
have
it
actually
pay
for
itself
through
fines
and
different
fees.
The
the
original
note
got
cut
down
from
330
000
to
100
000,
because
they're
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
within
their
department
without
having
to
hire
extra
staff.
O
I
guess
the
other
side
of
that
question
is
not
only
the
resources
just
in
terms
of
people
but
the
expertise,
because
you're
you're
talking
about
investigations
and
again
somebody
is
going
to
be
making
the
determination
and
there's
going
to
be
some
level
of
subjectivity
to
that.
Just
because
we
all
are
human.
So
you
know
that's
a
concern
and
I
guess
the
other
question
if
I
am
say
I'm
the
wisconsin
republican
party
and
I
get
shadow
banned
by
one
of
these
tech
companies.
O
L
Chairman
powers,
no
this
this
would
only
apply
to
tennessee
residents
that
they
would
file
a
complaint
through
the
utility
commission.
They
they
just
look
at
it
and
says:
does
it
fall
under
230?
You
know,
then
then
it
would
be,
not
not
be
a
legitimate
complaint.
If
it
was
not
didn't
fall
under
section
230,
then
they
would
look
at
it
and
they
would.
They
would
go
ahead
and
regulate
it
at
that
time
and
go
through
the
whole
complaint
process.
O
All
right,
thank
you
again,
I'm
just
having
a
difficult
time
in
my
own
mind,
trying
to
work
through
those
steps
and
how
they
might
be
accomplished
without
creating
another
problem
of
again
anytime.
We
set
up
a
what
in,
in
my
view
and
a
very
plain
teres
level
of
censorship,
to
determine
whether
or
not
it's
been
censored.
I
I
again,
I
just
think
we're.
There
are
issues
there
for
me
and
I'm
still
trying
to
work
through
that.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
L
Chairman
powers,
yeah,
and
this
this
actually
doesn't
really
do
anything
with
censorship.
All
it's
doing
is
if,
if
somebody
has
a
complaint,
if
they've
been
de-platformed,
if
they've
been
shadow
banned,
they
just
file
a
complaint,
we're
not
censoring
their
speech
at
all
or
not
censoring
anyone.
It's
just.
If
you
have
a
political
view
of
political
opinion,
and
then
you
do
platform
that
you
just
file
a
complaint
with
utility
commission.
We
we're
not
censoring
anyone's
speech.
We.
This
is
actually
about.
First,
the
first
amendment
and
free
speech.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
promote.
D
D
I
realize
sometimes
there's
not
a
lot
of
options,
but
it
seems
like
to
me
that
if,
if
people
wanted
to
go
on
another
platform,
we
had
these
restrictions
in
place
that
the
smaller
competitors
that
are
trying
to
establish
a
more
robust
presence
could
then
be
subject
to
this,
and
it
would
be
tougher
for
them
to
deal
with
those
different.
You
know
lawsuits,
litigation,
complaints
versus
a
much
larger
company
that
has
the
resources
to
fight
those,
and
so
you
know
I
think,
in
a
way
this
actually
limits
competition
and
it
helps
promote
these
monopolies.
D
I
think
you're
trying
to
create
you
know
a
a
get,
get
it
a
solution
here,
that's
actually
going
to
create
more
problems
for
people
that
are
trying
to
enter
the
marketplace
and
be
upstarts
to
compete
in
this
in
this
space.
So
that's
that's
a
concern.
I've
got
and
then
the
other
thing
is,
I
just
think
the
burdensome
you
know
having
each
state
piecemeal
this.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
model
legislation,
what
the
other
piece
other
states
have
done,
but
just
to
have
this
spread
across
50
different
states
territories.
D
You
know,
I
just
think
that
creates
a
real
problem.
I
I
you
know.
If
congress
wants
to
tackle
this,
I
think
there's
something
congress
should
do
at
the
federal
level,
but
I
just
think
having
this
piecemeal
approach
and
then
to
chile's
point
about
you
know:
tennessee
residents,
I
worry
about
you,
know
companies
that
might
be
domiciled
somewhere
else
are
they
gonna
have
standing?
I
just
think
it
gets
kind
of
very
messy
and
complex,
but
my
biggest
fear
is
in
a
way
this
is
actually
going
to
just
create
the
proliferation
of
monopolies.
L
Chairman
powers,
now,
no,
it
really
wouldn't,
and
it
would
we
wish
the
federal
government
would
have
dealt
with
this
years
ago
and
they
should
have,
but
because,
if
not
it's
going
back
to
the
state,
you
know,
as
we
know,
the
states
created
the
federal
government.
So
we
we
really
have
that
obligation
that
the
federal
government's
not
doing
their
job,
then
we
need
to
you
know,
step
in
and
that's
why
we
brought
forth
this
bill.
But
it's
not
a
piecemeal
approach.
This
is
going
to
be
model
legislation
for
other
states.
L
Other
states
have
tried
it
they've
gone
through,
appealed
it
and
got
shot
down,
but
the
common
carrier
law
is
one
that
we
feel
has
constitutional
measure.
That's
that's
the
one
that
judge
thomas
said
would
work
and
that's
why
we're
doing
at
the
state
level?
It's
not
going
to
create
more
problems.
If
a
startup
company
tried
to
do
it,
they
have
the
exact
same
rules,
they
would
fall
under
rule
230.
If
it's
offensive
language,
they
have
the
right
to
ban
it.
L
A
A
L
A
A
A
Yes,
sir,
mr
chairman,
it
has
amendment
015,
186.,.
C
A
Sir,
mr
chair,
what
this
is
a
a
bill
that
I
wish
we
didn't
have
to
codify
honestly,
but
it
just
simply
requires
utilities
prior
to
giving
a
price
for
a
capital,
expansion
or
provision
of
service
that
they
provide
evidence
of
what
consumers
are
paying
for.
A
No
lump
sum
prices,
but
if
you're
going
to
build
a
new
subdivision
and
you
are
presented
with
a
fee,
you
should
understand
that
that
fee
is
made
up
of
poles
and
wire
and
transformers,
as
opposed
to
just
seeing
lumps
on
so
what
this
bill
does
is.
This
requires
utilities
of
all
types
to
be
able
to
show
consumers.
This
measure
of
transparency
and
streamlining
show
their
work
to
how
estimates
of
services
or
expenses
are
made.
C
A
All
right,
folks,
we
are
down
to
two
items
on
our
calendar.
What
we
will
do
is
we
will
recon
I'd
so
hoped
that
we
would
finish
today,
but,
alas,
our
robust
discussion
has
carried
us
to
the
time
that
we
need
to
be
dismissed
for
today,
but
I
promise
you
same
time
same
place,
good
lord
willing.