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House - Criminal Justice Subcommittee - February 7, 2023
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B
A
C
D
In
fact,
if
you
recall
our
own
representative,
Johnny
Turner
is
a
Delta
and
she's
actually
up
here
with
the
sorority
and
they've
got
their
day
on
the
hill
and
their
social
action
going
and
trust
me.
These
professional
women
do
good
work
in
the
community,
not
just
volunteering,
but
making
sure
that
they
address
all
of
the
determinants
of
quality
of
life
in
our
community.
So
if
y'all
thank
them
once
again
for
the
work
they
do.
A
E
F
A
Well,
thank
you
for
that
oftentimes.
Well,
I,
don't
know
how
often
it
happens,
but
if
a
newspaper
prints
something
that
is
incorrect,
they
will
do
what
is
called
a
retraction
and
last
week
in
introductions
of
this
committee,
I
horribly
mispronounced,
a
young
lady's
name
from
the
clerk's
office,
and
so
I
have
been
practicing
for
seven
days
now
in
Route
2,
the
general
assembly
and
in
route
home
saying
her
name
multiple
times
just
to
get
it
right.
G
F
A
A
H
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I,
didn't
realize
how
fun
your
committee
was.
It's
been
an
enjoyment
so
far,
I'll
try
to
make
this
as
brief
as
possible.
This
comes
from
our
unbeloved
Comptroller's
office,
Mr
Ramon
power.
This
extends
the
statute
of
limitations
from
two
years
to
six
years
for
public
officials
that
create
some
sort
of
mafiance
with
their
office.
They
still
taxpayer
dollars
Etc.
The
purpose
of
this
legislation
is
sometimes
their
term
can
be
too
long
and
they
can
cover
up
their
misdeeds
and
the
statute
runs
so
with
the
six-year
statute
limitations.
H
A
E
A
A
I
Are
properly
recognized,
thank
you,
Mr,
chairman
and
to
the
committee.
This
is
a
very
exciting
committee
to
be
in
front
of
it's
better
than
going
to
the
Six
Flags,
so
I'm
excited
to
be
here.
House
Bill
548
would
make
it
an
offense
to
possess
a
device
that
is
capable
of
programming
a
smart,
key
or
key
fob
with
the
intent
to
use
it
or
allow
it
to
be
used
to
commit
theft.
I
Tennessee
ranks
number
one
in
vehicle
gun
thefts,
Nationwide,
8528
Vehicles
were
reported
stolen
in
Memphis
in
2022
UT
Knoxville's
campus
had
over
200
incidents,
reported
of
burglary,
burglary
or
theft
involving
a
vehicle
in
2022
Brentwood
Tennessee
police
have
report
recently
reported
and
been
warning
residents
to
be
mindful
of
overnight
car
burglaries
and
thefts
where
20
Vehicles
were
targeted
of
all
of
these
theft
issues
across
the
state
of
Tennessee.
They
all
involve
vehicles
and
many
of
them
are
theft
by
a
device
like
the
ones
that
you'll
see
here
shortly.
I
Without
your
permission
or
without
your
knowledge,
while
theft
is
a
crime,
this
specific
session
section
will
put
thieves
on
notice
that
people
are
aware
of
what
they
are
doing
and
that
if
they
continue
doing
this,
they
will
be
found
in
violation
of
the
law
when
they
are
called.
Hopefully,
this
will
deter
future
vehicle
thefts
even
just
a
little
I
hope
that
I
can
count
on
your
support
to
move
this
forward
with
a
positive
vote.
C
Thank
you,
representative
Harrison.
We
spoke
last
night
so
for
the
benefit
of
the
committee
I
was,
he
was
telling
me
about
the
bill
and
I
was
telling
him
that
I
had
a
constituent
who,
before
covid,
was
at
a
mall
in
Memphis
and
had
things
in
the
car,
but
they
were
hidden,
went
into
shop,
came
out
and
noticed
everything
was
out
gone,
but
no
windows
broken
nothing
happened,
and
so
the
key
fob
incident
came
up
that
it
seemed.
C
It
does
seem
to
be
that
technology
can
override
it
and,
and
so
one
thing,
I
don't
know
if
you
were
able
to
get
the
answer,
but
just
for
people
to
think
she
was
told
that
if
she
didn't
use
the
key
fob
but
locked
her
door
from
inside
the
car
that
that
was
better
than
using
the
key
fob.
So
I
do
have
a
constituent,
that's
gone
through
this
and
if
you
know
the
answer
yet
I'm
just
curious,
but
thank
you.
I
So
no,
the
chief
police
wasn't
able
to
give
me
a
direct
answer
to
that
question
specifically
last
night,
but
of
course,
I
also
went
through
something
similar
to
that
as
well.
I
was
at
an
event
and,
like
you
can
see
from
the
camera
watching
it
from
the
video
where
two
gentlemen
jumped
out
one
stood
closer
to
the
building
where
they
knew
I
was
in
and
the
other
one
stood
by
the
car
and
they
transmitted.
They
were
able
to
unlock
the
vehicle
and
they
thought
maybe
they
would
find
a
gun.
I
They
didn't
take
anything
else,
but
it
does
happen,
and
so
the
chief,
the
police
department
did
mention
that
this
is
just
something
that
is
becoming
common
now,
where
they
are
using
it
to
to
get
into
the
vehicles
and
so
we're
seeing
that
that
rise
happen,
and
while
we
can
do
something
about
it,
I'm
trying
to
see
if
what
that
looks
like
so.
Thank
you.
J
I
So
from
looking
at
different
devices,
there
are
multiple
different
versions
of
it
and
they
come
from
either
the
manufacturer
or
you
can
get
it
from
the
car
dealership,
but
they
are
some
that
are
handheld.
There
are
some
that
are
coming
like
a
battery
size
that,
unfortunately
it
would
be
heavy
for
somebody
to
carry
but
they're
some
are
larger
and
some
are
small.
Smaller
some
actually
have
a
key
fob.
That
looks
just
like
your
key
fob.
They
put
into
another
device
and
it
will
help
transmit
from
there.
So.
A
A
Thank
you
so
much
any
other
questions
for
the
sponsor.
Thank
you
very
much.
We're
questions
called
we're
now
voting
to
send
House
Bill
548
on
the
full
criminal,
those
in
favor
say
aye,
those
opposed
the
items
Prevail
you
move
on
to
full
credit.
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you
to
the
committee
item
number
four
House
Bill
413
by
leader,
Lambert.
A
E
Are
properly
recognized,
thank
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee.
This
is
a
very
simple
build.
It
allows
for
law
enforcement
service
to
count
towards
someone
eligibility
to
become
a
probation
officer.
We
already
have
educational
attainment
and
military
service
as
part
of
this.
This
just
adds
law
enforcement
Service
as
well.
A
Thank
you
for
that
explanation.
Any
questions
comments,
questions
called
no
objection,
we're
sitting
house
or
voting
to
send
House
Bill
413
on
the
full
criminal,
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
those
opposed
the
eyes
Prevail.
You
move
on
to
full
Criminal
item
number
five
House
Bill
450
by
leader,
Lambert.
E
Name
is
Chairman
members
of
the
committee
again.
This
is
literally
a
cleanup
Bill.
The
TBI
noticed
in
the
statute.
There
is
nothing
that
allows
them
to
give
a
Certificate
of
Eligibility
to
the
individual
that
actually
pays
for
it.
So
someone
has
never
committed
a
crime
before
they
pay
a
hundred
dollars,
go
on
the
TBI
website.
They
fill
out
a
form
to
determine
whether
or
not
they're
diversion
eligible
for
years
old
time.
We've
been
doing
this
best
of
my
knowledge
that
goes
to
the
defendant
or
their
attorney.
E
Unfortunately,
the
statute
indicates
that
it
would
go
to
the
judge
or
district
attorney,
so
we're
adding
in
defendant
or
defendant's
Council
to
that
list,
they're
the
folks
that
are
filling
the
form
out,
they're
the
ones
that
need
to
know
whether
the
diversion
eligible,
obviously
the
judge
and
the
D.A
need
to
know
as
well,
but,
first
and
foremost
the
individual
paying
for
it
needs
to
know.
So
that's
what
it
adds
to
this.
A
E
Chairman
members
of
the
committee
I
want
to
commend
our
our
full
committee
chairman
chairman
Hulsey,
before
he
was
the
full
committee
chairman
of
Criminal
Justice.
He
conducted
a
series
of
hearings
over
the
summer
after
some
absolute
tragic
and
horrific
crimes
that
occurred
really
in
Memphis,
and
then
it
brought
to
light
quite
a
bit
of
issues
across
the
state
when
it
comes
to
pre-trial
jail
credits
right
now.
E
If
an
individual
is
serving
pre-trial
time
before
they
are
convicted
that,
in
that
individual
gets
that
time
on
their
judgment,
and
so
if
they
get
a
year,
the
Assumption
will
be
they
get
a
year
of
serve
time.
I
mean
they.
They
served
one
year.
They
obviously
have
a
right
to
that.
Unfortunately,
the
statute
says
that
they
also
automatically
get
a
good
time
of
behavior
credit
automatically.
There's
no
evaluation
done
or
anything
unless
the
sheriff
were
to
say
no,
no,
that
person's
been
horrendous
enough.
E
They
shouldn't
get
it
this
bill,
flips
it
on
its
head
and
just
says
that
the
sheriff
has
to
make
the
determination
and
send
that
to
tdoc
as
to
whether
or
not
that
person
would
get
good
time.
It's
not
an
automatic
decision,
it
should
be
a
very
purposeful
decision.
My
Hope
Is.
This
will
help
folks
behave
during
their
pre-trial
term.
They'll
know
that
they
have
to
behave
in
order
to
be
able
to
get
that
pre-trial
good
time.
Credit
again.
They
absolutely
are
still
eligible
for
it,
but
it's
just
not
an
automatic
decision.
L
M
M
E
You
chairman,
absolutely
I,
mean
the
determination
is
made,
so
I
mean
if
they
earn
the
credits,
they
get
the
credits.
If
they
don't
they
don't
I
mean
it's
just
a
communication
between
the
sheriff's
department
and
tdoc,
but
right
now
that
communication
is
just
really
not
happening,
and
so
the
determination
would
be
made
by
the
sheriff
and
if
they've
earned
them,
then
they
could
they
could
be
granted
them
and
while
they're
in
their
pre-trial
credit
I'm
sure
each
Sheriff
will
have
a
process
as
to
how
they
want
to
either
award
those
or
not.
E
A
E
Chair
members
of
the
committee
didn't
anticipate
having
so
many
cleanup
bills
this
year,
but
this
is
another
one.
Where
imply
consent
charges
are
when
someone
is
arrested
for
DUI
and
then
declines
to
take
a
blood
or
a
breath
test
they're
charged
with
imply
consent
in
most
circumstances,
those
are
actually
not
criminal
matters,
they're,
administrative
in
nature
or
and
or
civil.
It's
kind
of
a
quasi-administrative
civil
proceeding,
but
it
is
sure
it
is
merely
for
the
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
they're
licensed
a
beer
vote
for
a
year
when
those
are
dismissed.
E
If
they
had
gone
into
the
TBI
at
some
juncture,
there
needs
to
be
a
process
that
those
can
be
expunged
off
someone's
record.
If
it's
truly
dismissed
and
I
mean
dismissed,
you
know,
without
cost
I
mean
it
is
a
true
dismissal
where
that
nobody
was
given
a
favor
on
that
nobody
was
hey.
It
was
dismissed
because
they're
just
being
nice
to
somebody
it's
dismissed
because
they
were
not
guilty
of
it.
A
N
Stroker
legislative
director
for
the
Department
of
Safety
and
I'll
be
brief.
Thank
you,
leader,
Lambeth,
for
meeting
with
us
on
this
one.
We
have
a
really
weird
little
Nuance
of.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
the
implied
consent
citation
is
an
actual
dismissal,
like
you
said,
in
a
not
one
with
cost,
because
if
it
is
with
cost,
it's
still
a
conviction
which
can
then
be
in
violation
of
federal
regs
input,
tdot's
Road
money
at
risk.
So
we've
got
an
amendment
drafted
that
we
shared
with
him.
N
I
just
got
word
from
FMCSA
that
they
think
it
looks
fine,
but
their
attorney
is
not
in
until
8
A.M
tomorrow
and
then
she
will
review
it
and
give
it
the
all
clear,
but
assuming
that
Amendment,
it
gets
amended
in
the
next
committee.
If
y'all
choose
to
move
it
on
we're
comfortable,
knowing
that
that
language
can
get
changed
pretty
quickly
great.
M
N
E
Chairman
and
I
filed
a
late
file
Amendment
with
the
committee,
just
with
the
words
without
cost
I
mean
the
intention
obviously
is
without
cost,
there's
no
cost
associated
with
most
of
these
either
Court
litigation,
taxes
or
others
and
imply
consent
unless
it
matches
up
with
another
charge,
shouldn't
have
any
cost,
fines
fees
or
anything
associated
with
it.
Again,
it's
an
administrative
finding,
and
so
these
should
not
now
in
the
rare
occurrence
where
they
might
I
mean
I
in
adding
the
words
without
cost
I
mean
I.
E
Think
there's
a
chance
that
some
of
those
folks,
even
if
it's
taxes,
litigation
taxes,
anything
could
potentially
keep
them
from
getting
it
expunged
and
that's
something
that
they
really
need
to
take
into
account.
You
know
either
when
whether
they
or
their
attorney
is
working
through
the
criminal
justice
process.
If
they
want
to
try
to
get
it
expunged,
my
recommendation
would
be
that
it
be
truly
without
any
cost
and
I
think
that
makes
sure
that
we
don't
run
a
foul
of
any
federal
issue
or
anything
else.
E
I
have
reached
out
to
some
of
our
federal
counterparts
to
ensure
that
that
resolves
any
issue.
It
seems
pretty
bizarre
to
me
that
if
a
case
is
dismissed
that
somebody
couldn't
get
it
expunged,
I
mean
it's
dismissed,
you're
innocent
until
proven
guilty.
If
the
state
didn't
prove
you
guilty,
you
should
be
able
to
get
an
expungement,
but
we're
working
through
that.
E
Thank
you
so
again
dismissed
there.
There
are
other
sessions
of
the
code.
I
know
safety's
worked
on
this
for
years.
If
something
is
dismissed
and
it's
dismissed
with
cost
for
purposes
of
their
system,
it's
not
really
dismissed
and
that's
that's
called
masking
on
the
federal
level,
and
so
the
intention
of
this
bill
is
for
that.
It's
dismissed
without
cost
I,
don't
mind
putting
those
two
extra
words
in
there
I
again.
The
amendment
was
not
filed
in
time
for
this
particular
committee.
E
My
understanding
the
and
this
will
be
more
to
the
chairman,
but
minor
Cheney
from
the
Chairman's
perspective-
is
that
he
would
prefer
we
not
deal
with
the
technical
change
like
that
at
this
level,
but
it
the
intention
is
dismissed
without
cost.
Whether
the
words
are
on
the
page
or
not.
A
true
dismissal
is
dismissed
without
cost
all.
A
A
Thank
you.
What
this
bill
does?
It
expands
the
offense
of
solicitation
of
a
minor
to
include
statutory
rape
by
an
authority
figure.
It
also
requires
that
a
person
convicted
of
continuous
sexual
abuse
of
a
child
be
sentenced
to
Community
Supervision
for
life
and
I.
Do
Mr
chairman
have
someone
here
that
would
be
available
for
questions
or
testimony.
K
O
Good
afternoon
Kim
helper,
the
elected
district
attorney
for
the
21st
Judicial
District,
which
comprises
Williamson
County.
This
bill
really
is
just
sort
of
a
cleanup
or
a
housekeeping
Bill.
The
first
part
of
it
regarding
statutory
rape
by
an
authority
figure
right
now.
Tca
13,
5
28
lists
various
offenses,
for
which
someone
can
be
held
accountable
for
soliciting
a
minor
to
engage
in
wrongful
conduct
and,
what's
missing
from
that
list,
is
the
statutory
rape
by
an
authority
figure.
So
this
just
adds
that
offense
into
that
list,
that's
encompassed
under
that
statute.
O
K
K
K
A
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
What
what
this
bill?
Does
it's
really
a
cleanup
bill
as
well.
It
requires
Court
ordering
the
expunction
of
a
person's
public
records
of
criminal
offense
to
include
the
appropriate
State
control
number
in
the
copy
of
the
expansion
order.
That's
sent
to
the
Tennessee
Bureau
of
Investigation.
K
A
E
E
The
the
folks
that
work
in
the
expungement
unit
over
there
absolutely
work
their
tails
off,
and
it's
changing
lives
every
day
when
they
take
something
off
somebody's
criminal
history
that
should
not
be
there
and
that
they
have
a
right
to
get
off,
but
it
it
they
sure,
have
a
lot
of
workload
right
now,
so
we
should
get
them
all
the
help
we
can.
Thank
you
chairman.
K
You
and
I
also
chairman,
received
a
note
from
Hamilton
County
on
the
clerk's
office
there
that
sometimes,
if
it's
not
included
with
it,
it
very
well
may
slow
down
this
process
and,
yes,
sir,
any
other
questions
for
the
the
sponsor
of
the
bill.
All
right.
We're
fixing
to
vote
here
on
House,
Bill
705,
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
aye.
All
opposed
no
bill
passes.
The
full
committee.