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House Education Administration Committee- January 19, 2022- House Hearing Room 1
A
A
A
A
quorum.
Thank
you
very
much.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
recognize
our
clerks.
Now
we
have
victoria
lundgren
yeah.
I
pronounce
that
correctly
and
we're
also
eli
beasley
will
be
our
clerks
and
committee
this
year
and,
of
course,
sergeant-arms
terry
van
trees
is
with
us
today
that
pronounced
your
last
name
correct
right.
Oh
wonderful,
okay,
and
I
also
like
to
as
we
begin
the
committee.
We
started
this
last
session
since
there's
a
million
students,
young
children,
from
k
through
12th
grade
in
school
each
and
every
day,
and
we
need
to.
A
We
have
an
awesome
responsibility
in
this
committee
to
try
to
work
together
and
get
things
right.
So
I
always
like
to
start
the
committee
out
with
a
prayer.
So
that's,
let's
bow
our
heads
holy
father.
You
are
in
control
of
all
things
as
our
creator
and
as
we
in
this
committee
come
together
to
look
at
legislation
this
session
that
will
affect
the
the
daily
lives
of
our
our
students
and
our
teachers
and
our
schools
and
and
into
the
homes
of
the
parents.
A
A
Members
just
to
begin
with
and
not
go
over.
We
won't
be
in
here
a
long
time
today,
but
we
got
some
good
good
stuff
going
on.
You
have
at
your
desk
education,
administration
committee
procedures.
Just
take
that
and
read
it
at
your
leisure.
If
you
have
any
questions,
we
can
talk
about
it
next
session,
but
that's
part
of
our
order
and
we've
got
a
couple
bills
a
day
and
after
that,
I'd
like
for
everybody
to
give
the
attention.
A
If
you
remember
two
years
ago,
we
passed
a
bill
called
the
education
recovery
and
innovation
commission,
where
we
set
up
a
commission
of
scarlet
nine
members,
nine
nine
members,
we
asked
them
to
look
at
and
they've
been
meeting
regularly
with
some
very
qualified
people
there.
Where
does
tennessee
education
need
to
go
and
there
was
a
two-year
commission.
A
They
have
come
back
with
a
report.
They're
gonna
give
us
that
report
today.
As
a
result
of
that,
we've
got
about
six
pieces
of
legislation
that
we're
filing
of
their
recommendations.
So
we
appreciate
their
work,
so
they're
going
to
give
us
that
that
report
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
those
those
legislation.
So
we're
going
to
have
that,
but
does
anybody
have
a
announcement
or
a
comment
you
want
to
make,
but
I
need
to
recognize
you
before
we
begin.
A
A
Also,
of
course,
you
know
katie
robertson,
she's,
our
legal
counsel
on
my
left
and
patrick
boggs.
Our
research
analyst
is
with
us
also,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
you
knew
them
when
you
call
our
office.
If
you
need
any
questions
or
get
anything
worked
out,
let's
just
jump
right
in
into
our.
We
had
three
bills
on
the
calendar:
hb
1207
by
ron
gantt
has
been
leader.
Gant
has
been
taken
off
notice.
C
Thank
you,
chairman
white.
This
is
a
bill
that
would
provide
some
funding
for
growing
school
districts
that
need
to
build
new
schools
currently
in
the
bep
funding
formula,
there's
no
direct
additional
allocation
for
building
a
new
school.
If
a
school
district,
a
school
district
will
currently
receive
their
bep
funding
from
the
state
and
if
they
go
from
deciding
not
to
build
a
new
school
to
deciding
to
build
a
new
school
that
change
in
decision
won't
affect
their
funding
from
the
state
at
at
all.
C
And
yet
we
have
some
school
districts
that
are
growing
and
some
are
growing
very
fast.
We
have
some
in
this
in
the
state
that
are
adding
a
thousand
or
more
new
students
to
their
system
each
year.
If
a
school
typically
holds
about
a
thousand
students,
then
you
can
do
the
math.
This
means
some
school
districts
in
this
state
are
needing
to
start
construction
on
one
new
school
every
year.
C
Perpetually
this
bill
would
provide
30
million
dollars
in
one-time
money
through
to
be
allocated
to
these
growing
school
districts
through
a
grant
making
process
the
application
process
and
the
awarding
would
be
developed
through
the
department
of
education.
In
order
to
be
eligible
for
one
of
these
grants
to
receive
funding
for
a
new
school,
the
school
district
would
only
need
to
have
grown
two
percent
over
the
prior
five
years.
This
funding
would
come
from
outside
of
the
bep
funding
formula.
C
It
would
be
in
addition
to
that
and
since
the
requirement
would
be
only
a
two
percent
growth
over
the
last
five
years,
there's
all
kinds
of
different
leas
that
would
be
eligible
for
this
funding:
suburban
lease
rural
area,
leas,
certainly
urban
leas.
In
fact,
we've
done
the
math
and
determined
that
39
leas
would
be
eligible
for
this
grant
funding
through
this
bill-
and
I
have
informally
done
a
little
further
investigating
to
see
that
of
these
39
leas.
I
believe
that
they
are
in
14
of
the
15
committee
members
districts
on
this
committee.
A
I
have
suggested
to
represent
bond
that
instead
of
this
being
passed
out
and
set
behind
finance
there,
that
possibly
we
put
this
on
the
end
of
session
special
calendar
and
see
what
comes
out
of
the
bp
right
and
if
not,
we
can
bring
this
be
still
alive
and
bring
it
back
up
so
anyway.
I
would
like
to
have
your
comments,
if
you're
agreeable
to
that
or
anyone
else
want
to
weigh
in
on
on
that
represents
picky.
D
Thank
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
being
one
of
those
districts
that
has
tremendous
growth.
Like
representative
bond
has
spoken
of.
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
can
do
by
sending
it
to
special
the
special
calendar.
It
allows
us
to
see
what
the
governor's
proposal
is
going
to
be
for
growth,
because
he
has
tipped
his
hat
a
little
bit
that
there's
going
to
be
something
in
there
for
counties
that
are
experiencing
a
lot
of
growth,
and
hopefully
we
might
be
able
to
accomplish
that
through
the
bep.
D
But
if
we
can't,
if
we
send
this
to
the
special
calendar,
it
allows
us
to
reach
back
and
pull
this
back
out
as
a
tool
for
us
held
right
here
that
we
can
amend
this
or
move
this
any
way
we
want,
maybe
having
to
increase.
You
know
in
in
rutherford
county
they're,
building
high
schools
that
are
100
million
dollars,
murray
county,
just
building
a
school
for
70
million
dollars.
You
know,
30
million
is
not
going
to
go
that
far,
but
it
could
be
a
start
or
maybe
we
might
have
the
assets
available
to
increase
that.
D
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion.
Second,
on
moving
to
the
special
calendar,
any
objection
we
have
to
go
back
to
the
sponsor
of
the
bill.
That's
fine
with
me!
Thank
you.
Okay,
any
objections,
any
further
discussion
hearing
none,
I
was
in
favor
of
moving
to
the
special
end
of
the
session
calendar
special
calendar
and
it
keeps
saying
aye
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it.
Thank
you
very
much
item
three
house
bill
1020
by
representing
potts.
E
A
A
G
This
commission
consists
of
nine
members,
as
representative
white
mentioned
earlier,
three
appointees
from
the
governor
three
from
the
lieutenant
governor
and
three
from
the
speaker.
We've
got
a
physician.
We
have
business
leaders,
we've
got
non-profit
leaders,
we
have
educators,
we
have
an
amazing
group.
Six
of
us
are
here
today
I'd
like
to
introduce
superintendent,
joey
vaughn
who's,
our
vice
chair,
dr
yolanda
jones,
who
is
president
of
not
one,
not
two,
but
three
t-cats.
G
Is
that
better
perfect?
I
also
like
to
introduce
mr
glenn
swift.
He
is
a
retired
director
of
mba
programs
at
the
ut
business
college
of
business.
Mr
frank
rothermell,
who
is
the
president
of
den
art,
construction
and
dr
marie
chisholm
burns
who's
the
dean
of
ut
health
science
center
at
the
college
of
pharmacy.
G
So
I
appreciate
everyone
being
here.
This
commission
is
charged
with
addressing
the
gaps
and
modernizing
the
state's
education
system
and
kindergarten
through
to
career
and
just
to
level
set
where
we
are
right
now,
just
basic
context
here.
The
tn
ready,
proficiency
and
ready
graduate
so
ready
graduate
is
a
a
metric,
that's
used
by
the
department
of
education
to
turn
whether
a
student
is
ready
after
high
school.
G
Those
rates
suggest
that
most
actually,
the
overall
majority
of
students
in
this
great
state
are
leaving
high
school
unprepared
for
life
after
the
state's
economic
and
workforce
needs
are
changing
at
a
very
rapid
growth.
You
can
look
out
the
windows
of
this
building
and
see
that,
but
it's
happening
all
over
the
place
and
many
of
our
adults
lack
the
credentials
like
the
skills
and
the
credentials
necessary
to
fill
those
demands.
G
It
makes
it
hard
for
us
to
grow
as
a
state
if
we
don't
have
the
prepared
workforce,
the
pandemic
and
the
natural
disasters
of
2020
and
2021.
If
you
count
the
continued
growth
of
of
covid
and
the
additional
natural
devastations
we've
had
over
the
past
year
have
created
unprecedented
disruption
in
education
from
kindergarten
through
to
the
career
space.
G
When
the
world
seemed
to
shut
down
in
spring
of
2020,
the
channel
the
general
assembly
created
senate
bill
1974,
which
established
this
commission,
I'm
not
going
to
read.
What's
on
the
rest
of
this
slide,
I'm
sure
that
you
can,
at
your
leisure,
read
this
I
will
ask:
were
you
able
to
pass
this
out?
Okay,
all
of
you
should
have
in
front
of
you
an
ease-of-use
document.
G
We
want
to
walk
you
through
where
we've
been
so
to
date,
it
would
be
good
to
play
to
date.
The
commission
has
studied
numerous
education
policy
topics
and
issued
two
reports.
In
our
first
year
we
reviewed
and
compiled
data
that
existed
in
from
what
we
understood
from
the
spring
of
2020
and
looking
at
that
data,
landscape
and
understanding.
What
really
had
been
were
the
effects
of
education
on
our
students.
G
We
didn't
get
all
the
information
that
we
wanted.
We
did
continue
to
actually
survey
superintendents
across
the
state,
and
the
majority
of
superintendents
responded
to
a
survey
to
understand
how
were
they
being
equipped.
How
are
they
surviving
through
this
covid
situation
received
a
lot
of
good
information
there.
The
preliminary
report
looked
at
an
understanding
of
what
the
coveted
pandemic
and
other
natural
devastations
of
2020
had
had
on
the
education
system,
and,
like
I
mentioned,
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
that
data
just
because
we
weren't
testing
a
lot
of
students.
G
We
didn't
have
a
lot
of
information
coming
in
from
the
districts.
We
did
provide
that
and
we
did
identify
at
least
four
buckets
that
were
kind
of
identified
as
as
needing
further
focus
learning
law.
So
you
might
consider
it
learning
acceleration
well-being
of
the
students
and
educators,
post-secondary
and
career
preparedness
and
technology
gaps.
G
We
engage
with
a
variety
of
stakeholders
about
almost
20
different
stakeholders,
ex
content,
experts,
policy
makers,
educators
of
all
different
types,
and
we
analyzed
the
2021
tn
ready
data
among,
as
well
as
other
data
from
tech,
tennessee
higher
education
commission
to
understand
continue
understanding
what
really,
what
have
been
the
effects
on
students
you'll
see.
One
of
the
things
that
was
provided
was
an
appendix
this
was
electronically
provided
an
appendix
to
our
year,
one
report
and
that
really
looks
at
additional
data
breaking
down
how
what
sort
of
effects
covet
has
had
on
the
students.
G
The
second
report
there's
almost
60
recommendations
that
are
provided
in
this
report
and
it
goes
across
nine
different
priority
areas:
we're
not
going
to
walk
you
through
60
recommendations,
because
we'd
be
here
for
a
very
very
long
time.
We
have
pulled
a
few
out
that
we're
going
to
walk
through
today
before
we
get
into
that
talk
about
year.
Three,
so
we're
the
last
six
months
of
our
commission
of
being
together
we're
going
to
continue
to
study
and
optimize
the
recommendations
that
we've
already
provided.
G
The
representative
commissioner,
chairman
white,
mentioned
this
earlier.
The
recommendations
that
were
made
in
this
document
is
really
a
legislative
menu.
So
this
can
these
proposals
can
be
implemented
at
a
variety
of
times.
There's
not
they're,
not
say
reliant
on
each
other.
We
did
that
on
purpose
to
ensure
that
there's
plenty
to
to
look
at
and
to
choose
from
from
your
perspective,
the
recommendations
are,
in
many
cases,
are
pretty
innovative.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
redesign
of
high
school
rethinking
how
we
can
engage
with
the
post-secondary
space
in
some
cases.
G
G
Commission's
year,
2
report
included
nearly
60
recommendations
aligned
to
nine
priorities,
but
we
first
started
by
creating
a
vision
we
wanted
to
ground
ourselves
in
the
direction
we
were
going
as
a
commission,
because,
as
you
could
imagine,
education
is
quite
a
large
policy
potential
space.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
we
were
very
grounded.
The
vision
that
we
created
is
that
every
tennessean
will
have
a
high
quality
education
necessary
for
life.
G
G
The
nine
priorities
identified
in
year
two
start
with
a
very
basic
way
of
looking
at
things,
and
it
starts
with
literacy
and
numeracy
I'll
remind
you
all
that
we
started
our
conversation
a
year
ago.
I
also
remind
you,
a
year
ago,
you
were
probably
sitting
in
here
having
a
special
session
about
literacy.
We
applaud
that
work.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
looking
at
the
policy
that
was
pre
that
was
finalized
in
that
session.
G
We've
had
a
lot
of
conversation
about
this,
diversifying
and
ensuring
that
we
have
teachers
match
what
the
student
body
looks
like
is
very,
very
important.
We
also
completely
recognize
the
fact
that
we
have
a
pretty
big
gap
when
it
comes
to
any
educator
coming
into
the
school,
and
that
is
a
it's
a
cultural
challenge
across
the
entire
country.
It's
not
just
in
tennessee
and
to
equip
schools
and
districts
to
address
students,
well-being
needs.
G
Cobit
has
really
put
a
big
giant
light
on
the
fact
that
many
students
and
even
educators
for
that
matter
are
not
necessarily
equipped
to
be
able
to
work
through
large,
challenging
situations
like
this
optimizing
capacity
for
flexible
high
quality,
school
options
and
redesigning
high
school.
We
talk
a
lot.
This
is
a
little
bit
more
on
the
innovative
side
and
it's
rethinking
the
way
we
all
grew
up
in
high
school
and
thinking
about.
G
G
We
also
believe
that
we
need
to
establish
rigorous
and
periodic
evaluation
of
those
early
literacy
programs
by
independent
evaluators,
and
we
suggested
it's
just
a
suggestion
that
you
might
consider
looking
at
the
office
of
research
and
education,
accountability
to
help
you
out
with
that
there's
a
lot
of
conversation
about
what
has
already
been
put
in
place
and
what
is
not
again.
We
started
this
conversation
a
year
ago,
and
I
know
the
department
of
education
does
have
some
external
evaluations
in
place.
We
just
felt
there
was
a
potential
opportunity
for
more
accountability
from
this
committee.
G
H
So
fully
funding
the
education
program
in
tennessee
is
is
something
that
I
know
that's
been
on
your
radars
for
quite
a
while.
Actually
for
the
last
30
years,
the
basic
education
program
has
been
in
place
and
the
review
committee
for
that
is
is
in
place
and
it's
well
represented
by
statute.
They
meet
yearly,
and
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
found
are
things
that
they're
also
recommending
so
first
of
all,
fully
funded
school-based
nurses,
counselors
and
social
workers,
in
line
with
the
bep
program
review
committee
and
their
recommendations
from
2021.
H
nurses,
vp.
Currently,
funds
nurses
at
a
ratio
of
1
to
3
000
students
across
the
united
states,
department
of
health
and
human
services,
recommends
a
ratio
of
one
to
seven
hundred
and
fifty
that
change
would
increase
state
expenditures
by
4.2
million
and
948
nursing
positions.
I
can
tell
you
any
nurse
working
anywhere
right
now
is.
H
H
Counselors
b
fund
bp
funds,
an
average
of
the
ratio
of
one
to
five
hundred
for
grades
k
six
and
in
grades
712,
it's
one
to
three
hundred
and
fifty
the
american
school
counselor
association
recommends
one
for
250
students.
This
change
would
increase
state
expenditures
by
67.4
million
and
at
a
1544
counselors.
H
When
we
look
at
a
high
school
redesign
coming
up
our
high
school
students,
our
middle
school
students,
school
counselors,
are
being
asked
to
do
things
now
in
a
different
role,
but
we
also
need
people
that
can
help
them
get
to
college,
get
to
post-secondary
opportunities
get
into
the
workforce.
There's
a
lot
more
to
it
today
than
there
was
years
ago.
H
H
H
H
Schools
across
the
state
are
in
situations
where
we're
having
a
hard
time
pulling
staffing
our
buildings,
we're
in
situations
where
we
may
need
to
to
go
virtual
for
a
little
bit,
but
without
universal
broadband.
That
does
that's
not
possible
for
every
kid
every
day.
So
that's
something
we
have
to
look
at.
One
thing
the
commission
also
looked
at
was
providing
requiring
periodic
virtual
drills
to
ensure
that
if
the
situation
arises
where
we
need
to
be
at
home,
let
me
tell
you
we
do
not
schools
do
not
want
teachers
want
to
have
kids
in
school.
H
Teachers
want
to
have
their
kids
in
front
of
them,
but
if
something
happens-
and
we
have
to
having
virtual
drills
to
make
sure
that
we
can
make
that
happen,
seamlessly
is
important.
We
also
need
to
work
with
education,
preparation
programs
to
ensure
best
practices.
Are
there
every
teacher
that
comes
into
the
building
to
begin?
G
I
I
These
opportunities
would
help
students
and
allow
them
to
have
access
to
different
pathways,
and
they
can
also
look
at
the
integration
to
allow
students
to
move
among
these
pathways
if
it's
a
great
fit
so
evolving
of
funding
streams
to
mitigate
for
k-2,
k-12
and
post-secondary
systems
to
also
enable
flexibility
for
our
students.
So
we
would
also
like
to
see
and
ensure
that
every
high
school
student
has
the
opportunity
to
attend
a
tcat
or
complete
sufficient
early,
post-secondary
coursework
toward
an
institution
or
industry
condens
credential,
while
they're
in
high
school.
I
This
is
a
win-win
for
our
students.
We
would
like
to
expand
opportunities
for
students
to
demonstrate
proficiency
at
their
own
pace,
and
we
would
like
to
look
at
how
high
school
equivalent
we
could
create
a
high
school
equivalent,
such
as
college-level
examination
programs
clip
tied
to
our
high
schools
as
well.
So
we
can
also
show
that
proficiency.
I
I
We
also
would
like
to
look
at
additional
requirements:
conditions
attached
to
transferability
and
incentivize
four-year
institutions
to
partner
with
two-year
institutions
and
t-cats
in
order
to
advance
transfer
pathways
by
tying
all
of
our
higher
education
institutions.
Together,
students
again
will
not
waste
time,
they
will
not
waste
money
and
they
will
be
ready
for
the
workforce
and
career.
I
G
With
that,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we're
moving
into
our
final
year
here,
we'll
continue
to
study
education
policy
topics,
refine
and
augment
the
recommendations
that
have
already
been
provided
here.
Well,
we've
already
had
a
big
conversation
as
a
commission
we'll
be
talking
a
lot
more
about
education,
innovation
in
this
next
six
months
or
so,
and
we'll
be
engaging
with
a
lot
of
educators,
students
and
other
education
experts.
With
that
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
for
questions.
A
Okay
members,
thank
you.
So
much
for
that
presentation,
as
I
opened
up
for
questions
just
want
to
say
when
we
passed
the
bill
a
couple
years
ago,
always
said
that
it's
only
as
good
as
the
quality
of
the
people
on
it
and
I
won't
congratulate.
We
had
high
quality
people
on
the
board
and
appreciate
all
the
time
and
effort
y'all
put
in
into
this
members.
You
want
anybody,
have
a
comment
or
a
question
you'd
like
to
ask
president
hassan.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
y'all
for
being
here,
dr
jones.
I
like
what
you
had
to
say
on
the
learn
and
earn.
I'm
gonna
steal
that
if
you
hear
that
in
his
future
committees
just
just
know
that
you'll
get
some
residuals
from
that,
but
but
I
I
do
like
the
idea
and
the
more
that
we
can
blend
these
lines
blur
these
lines
of
of
trying
to
get
our
students
into
the
workforce
and
just
streamlining
that
process.
J
A
And
dr
jones,
since
we're
talking
to
you
right
now,
I've
got
a
question
since
you're
with
the
tea
cats
and
all
the
one
item
ensure
every
high
school
student
has
the
opportunity
to
attend
a
tcat
or
substantially
complete
sufficient,
orderly
post
secretary.
Seeing
what
the
challenge
is.
You
know
we're
pushing
dual
enrollment
to
the
high
schools,
we're
working
on
cte
where
a
child,
a
student,
could
come
out
at
12th
grade
really
with
either
a
technical
degree
or
well
on
the
way
to
go
to
a
tcat
or
a
community
college.
A
I
I
truly
feel
that
students
once
they
know
that
it
is
a
viable
option
and
we
work
with
our
counselors
and
not
only
our
counselors,
but
our
parents.
We
must
educate
everyone
to.
Let
them
know
that
career
readiness
is
success,
no
matter
what
the
job
is,
if
you're,
making
a
livable
wage
and
you're
able
to
take
care
of
your
family
and
our
industries
are
right
now
coming
to
us
pleading,
how
do
we
get
a
highly
skilled
workforce?
I
A
I
We
are
definitely
working
strategically
because
we
need
a
not
only
our
existing
workforce
to
cover
our
companies
that
we
currently
serve.
We
have
a
huge
push
to
be
able
to
train
a
highly
skilled
workforce
for
for
blue
oval
city,
so
right
now
we're
it
will
take
all
of
our
higher
education
institutions
working
together,
but
also
including
our
secondary
institutions,
because
that
will
be
a
pipeline
that
will
continue
to
flow
that
are
currently
not
in
the
workforce.
G
A
J
G
It
is
available
now,
so
we
have
we've
produced
the
pot
of
coffee,
one
and
pot
of
coffee
two,
which
would
actually
be.
The
full
report,
is
a
50
page
report.
In
addition,
there
is
a
50
page
appendix
so
it's
a
plethora
of
reading,
but
there's
a
lot
of
really
good
information,
and
I
can
make
sure
that
that
you
receive
that
electronically.
J
Yeah,
that
would
be
great
because
I
think
you
know,
like
I
said,
there's
a
lot
of
great
things
in
here.
Of
course,
the
doubles
and
the
details,
and
most
of
this
stuff
and
as
well
as
the
funding
and
I
assume
the
appendix-
is
full
of
data
and
evidence-based
stuff.
So
that's
what
is
also
just
as
important.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
I
look
forward
to
receiving
it
and
hopefully
it
is
influential
and
it
does
guide
some
of
our
discussions
that
we
have
here
over
the
next
few
months.
Thank
you,
representative,
love.
H
E
Okay,
thank
you,
and
I
appreciate
this
very
much
because
I
think
that
that,
along
with
the
dual
admission
for
a
student
prevents
that
pause
when
the
student
might
finish
from
the
two-year
college
and
then
trying
to
apply
to
the
four-year
and
anytime
that
we
can
keep
them
moving.
Consistent,
I
think,
is
appropriate.
So
thank
you
for
including
that
in
the
process.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
yeah.
I
had
just
a
couple
or
a
few
follow-up
questions
you
mentioned
just
in
in
studying
the
issue
that
it
was
clear
that
our
students
were
not
prepared
when
they
got
to
that
post-secondary
level.
I
think
that
probably
reinforces
what
a
lot
of
us
have
been
thinking
that
they
that
there
are
some
issues
there.
J
G
We
had
a
lot
of
conversation
about
how
do
we
accelerate
learning,
given
the
current
circumstances,
the
current
circumstances
alone
prior
to
covid.
We
also
had
some
challenges,
and
so
there
are
recommendations
inside
the
broader
document
that
does
get
into
the
details
of
the
ex
kind
of
accelerating
that
learning
and
remediation,
not
only
starting
at
a
very
early
grade
level,
elementary
level,
but
certainly
in
high
school,
and
it's
impossible
to
be
prepared
to
go
to
college
if
you
are
not
able
to
read
and
do
math,
and
so
that
remediation
become
a
big
point
of
conversation.
G
G
One
of
the
conversations
we
had
is
about
having
using
data
to
set
trigger
points
in
place
where,
if
a
student
is
not
prepared
at
an
early
stage,
that
remediation
starts
not
after
graduation
but
in
freshman
year
or
even
eighth
grade
year.
If
it
makes
sense
so
that
we
start
stopping
the
the
learning
loss
then
and
start
trying
to
inspire,
because
kids
can
feel
more
confident
about
what
they're
learning.
J
G
F
I
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you
for
this
hard
work
and
education
that
you're
working
on
everything
and
I'm
following,
along
with
everything,
you're
doing
the
dual
pathways:
the
opportunities
for
advancement
in
high
school,
most
of
that
predicated
on
an
eighth
grader
that
can
perform
at
the
levels
that
we
need
them
to
perform.
D
Are
you
going
to
start
to
address
those
issues
in
our
k-12?
Basically,
now
has
become
k
through
16
fund,
our
educational
system
that
we're
going
to
have
a
child
that
starts
in
kindergarten
or
even
pre-k
for
that
matter
and
we'll
have
the
necessary
foundations
and
building
blocks
as
they
move
forward
throughout
the
system,
so
that
when
they
hit
eighth
grade-
and
we
see
our
proficiency
numbers
of
the
30
percentile
in
third
grade
and
the
20
something
percentile
in
eighth
grade,
it
even
gets
worse
in
high
school
are.
D
H
H
One
thing
the
commission
is
looking
at
the
tcap
is
optional
in
the
second
grade.
Third
grade
we
have
scores
every
school
in
tennessee
has
data
on
students
in
in
kindergarten
in
preschool.
So
one
thing
that
the
commission
has
talked
about
is
being
more
transparent
with
that
data,
but
there
are
some
good,
some
very
positive
things
that
that
have
been
put
in
place
that
need
to
be
continued.
H
That
funding
is
going
to
be
really
important.
High
dosage
tutoring
started
in
manchester
city
schools
with
that
program
today.
So
I'm
really
excited
about
that,
and
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you
all
did
for
that
we
put
in
the
application
for
summer
camps
it's
going
through,
so
there
are
positive
steps,
but
yes,
we
have
to
identify
that
much
sooner
and
work
through
those
to
help
them
before
they
get
to
ninth
grade.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
the
work
you've
done.
I
I
listened
as
you
went
through
there
and
you
mentioned
incentives
several
times,
but
I
didn't
hear
anything
about
institutional
incentives
or
maybe
disincentives
for
those
that
are
failing
to
hit
the
marks
so
to
speak.
F
Having
done
some
analysis
on
our
school
system,
we
know
there's
a
difference
between
urban
versus
rural
there's.
Several
other
clearly
identified
categories
of
differences
out
there
that
are
somehow
tied
to
statistically
definable
material
that
we
can
look
at,
but
we
do
not
at
this
point
in
time,
and
I
didn't
pick
up
from
your
presentation
that
we
are
offering
incentives
or,
dare
I
say
disincentives
for
those
that
don't
make
the
mark
for
missing
it
or
hitting
it.
F
If,
if
we
have
take
act,
scores
as
an
example
which
is
easy
to
measure,
there
are
other
things
less
easy
to
measure,
as
my
colleague
mentioned,
but
if
we
have
those
out
there
and
we
do
nothing
about
it,
I
didn't
hear
anything
in
your
presentation
that
indicates
we
need
to.
Would
you
care
to
address
that.
G
We
did
not
have
very
much
conversation
about
governance
or
accountability
at
the
individual
school
level,
we're
primarily
talking
about
students,
the
the
accountability
model.
We
did
talk
about
the
accountability
model
that
currently
exists,
which
has
never
fully
been
launched,
which
is
the
essa
model.
What
the
state
chooses
to
do
as
far
as
holding
those
schools
accountable
is,
I
certainly
have
a
personal
opinion,
but
it's
not
something.
The
commission
had
a
conversation
about.
H
But
follow-up,
I
would
like
to
say
one
thing
about
the
accountability
system.
We
did
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
but
I
I
do
think
that
it's
important
to
realize
that
districts
will
receive
one
grade,
so
we
may
do
a
really
good
job
with
our
a.c.t,
but
we're
in
a
year
right
now
with
where
our
chronic
absenteeism
may
be
high.
So
I
may
knock
it
out
of
the
park
with
my
act
and
my
chronic
absenteeism
is
really
low
and
when
they're
averaged
together,
it's
going
to
look
like
I'm
a
c.
F
Excuse
me
follow-up.
Yes,
sir,
thank
you.
I
think
you
kind
of
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
there.
As
far
as
I'm
concerned,
I
I
would
say
all
of
us
up
here
are
conscious
of
spending
taxpayer
dollars
and
getting
the
return
on
investment
that
our
constituents
expect
from
those
expenditures.
The
accountability
issue.
As
I
see
it
is
a
key
issue.
Now,
whether
or
not
you
say
it's
a
district
or
school,
it
matters
not
except
it
has
to
be
an
effective
level.
F
F
I
can't
remember
that's
great,
I
mean
I'm
not
badmouthing
any
of
that,
except
I
would
ask
the
question:
does
going
to
that
number
increase
the
quality
of
the
student
output
when
we,
when
we
get
a
student
through
third
grade
or
or
eighth
grade,
does
having
that
larger
number
of
nurses
or
counselors
or
social
workers
pick
them
on?
Does
that
improve
that
number?
F
And
if
we
don't
measure,
we
can't
say
so
before
we
start
adding
those
and
I'm
not
saying
they're,
not
needing
them,
not
needed.
Don't
misunderstand
me:
I'm
just
saying
from
an
accountability
standpoint
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
tell
the
constituents
the
citizens
of
tennessee
that
money
is
well
spent
because
we
figured
out
that
going
from
one
nurse
per
000
to
1
for
every
250
or
whatever
number
you've
mentioned
has
in
fact,
given
us
a
measurable
result,
that's
going
the
direction
we
want
it.
A
Thank
you,
chairman
reagan,
and
I
was
reminded,
while
we
were
having
discussion
from
tbr
system,
they
are
marketing
down
to
elementary
schools.
Many
of
you
may
have
these
books
already
in
your
office.
I
have
some
in
mind.
They
have
mascots
called
tommy
and
tammy
t
cut
tcat
now
and
they
go
into
elementary
schools
and
they
talk
about.
A
You
know
the
different
career
opportunities.
You
know
that
that
are
available,
and
so
they
are
marking
as
far
down
into
our
elementary,
which
is
a
good
thing
where
you
have
you
have
to
start.
So,
if
you
don't
have
those
books
and
little
small
little
books
that
you
can
get
in
your
office,
anyone
else
want
a
comment.
A
A
E
A
D
Just
just
mr
chairman,
you're
recognized
those
recommendations
that
came
from
the
committee
have
been
drafted.
They
are
circulated,
there'll,
be
an
email
going
there'll,
be
an
email
going
out
to
everybody.
Let
them
know
who's
carrying
those
bills
so
that
we
can
all
get
behind
them
and
push
those
across
the
finish
line.
D
That's
the
most
important
by
all
means,
if
there's
something
that's
already
already
gone
through
the
test
of
this
committee,
it
could
always
be
brought
back
here
by
the
bill's
sponsor
to
address
that
going
forward,
but
I'm
sure
the
chairman
will
make
sure
everybody
gets
a
copy
of
who
has
those.
I
think
those
bills
will
be
on
the
house
floor
tomorrow.
If
you
want
to
sign
onto
them.