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From YouTube: House - Higher Education Subcommittee - March 23, 2021
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House Higher Education Subcommittee House Hearing Room 3
A
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
there's
probably
more,
but
I
do
want
to
introduce
my
friend
skip.
Redmond
he's
from
we're
working
with
skip
for
for
years,
he's
up
here,
business
with
the
day
of
particular
bill,
but
I
just
wanted
to
recognize,
skip
and
thank
you
for
making
the
drive
up
and
talk
to
you
later.
A
Anyone
else,
okay,
with
that
out
of
the
way
we
do
have
a
calendar.
Today,
we
are
going
to
make
a
couple
of
changes
to
the
order
in
order
to
accommodate
our
most
favorite
chair,
lady
chair
lady
hazelwood.
If
you'd
like
to
come
and
present
present
house
bill
1396-
and
we
have
motion
in
second
you're
recognized.
E
E
E
However,
we
still
have
191
individuals
that
are
left
in
the
plan
and
what
this
bill
would
do
is
to
simply
move
those
folks
with
they'd
still
take
their
money.
They'd
be
able
to
either
cash
out
their
dollars
is,
would
be
a
tax
penalty
on
that
if
they
chose
to
do
that
or
they
can
move
their
dollars
to
other
plans
that
we
have
in
place.
E
D
E
A
B
A
F
This
I
appreciate
motion
and
second
on
the
bill.
The
the
this
bill
has
amended
the
amendments
5201,
which
is
which
makes
the
bill,
and
so
what
this
is
is
a
surprisingly
enough
for
your
expertise.
This
is
a
corrections
reform
bill
for,
for
the
last
three
years,
the
county
of
blunt
has
tried
to
put
together
a
transition
center
as
a
joint
development
of
surrounding
counties.
F
F
So
this
is
property
that
exists
in
blount
county.
It's
already
been
zoned.
It's
made.
It
been
made
available,
we're
going
to
try
to
put
together
a
local
agreement
with
surrounding
counties,
monroe,
loudon
knox
and
sevier,
and
anybody
else
that
wants
in
on
it,
and
so
what
we're
asking
for
is
to
put
the
definition
and
code
of
a
joint
development
operation
for
a
transition
center
and
to
do
and
it
any
amounts
contributed
to
the
transition
center.
F
Pursuant
to
subsection
a
are
revenues
of
the
transition
center
that
may
be
used
in
a
lawful
purpose,
so
the
the
operation
is.
This
is
a
requirement.
The
reason
it's
here
is
this
code
actually
takes
in
agreements
and
contracts
with
the
the
board
of
regents.
So
that's
why
it
ended
up
in
this
committee,
so
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
A
A
A
Seeing
none
question
on
the
bill's
been
called
all
those
in
I'm
sorry
question
on
the
amendment
all
those
in
favors
aye.
Anybody
opposed
no
and
the
amendment
goes
on
and
we
have
question
on
the
bill.
Any
questions
members,
I
think
we're
ready
for
the
vote.
Then
all
those
in
favor
house
bill,
240,
passing
through
please
say
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
The
eyes
have
it
well
done,
sir,
and
you
are
heading
towards.
F
A
G
We
as
a
nation
have
endured
revolution,
civil
war,
world
war,
cold
war
and
regional
wars.
We
have
survived
these
conflicts
and
won.
Today
we
are
in
a
new
kind
of
war,
an
information
war,
the
chinese
communist
party
rise
to
legitimate
prosperity,
has
become
one
of
the
greatest
threats
to
the
american
way
of
life.
G
G
China
established
a
network
of
50
so-called
confucius
institutes
at
american
educational
institutions
in
2009
li
chang,
cheung,
then
head
of
the
agitrop
or
the
propaganda
for
the
chinese
communist
party
called
these
outposts.
An
important
part
of
china's
overseas
propaganda
set
up
their
mo
is
simple.
G
Perhaps
mr
biden
should
have
consulted
with
his
nominee
to
be
director
of
the
cia,
william
burns.
He
just
testified
in
front
of
the
senate
for
confirmation
that
the
confucius
institutes
were
a
genuine
risk
to
u.s
security.
Furthermore,
he
said
that
if
he
were
president
of
a
university
or
college
that
hosted
the
confucius
institute,
he
would
shut
it
down
house
bill.
1238
does
just
what
william
burns
suggested.
G
A
A
A
G
G
A
D
Thank
you
chairman.
No,
no
question
I
did
want
to
just
put
this
on
the
record
and
get
chairman
reagan's
comments
of
everything.
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
in
1949,
when
mainland
china
went
communist,
there
was
one
nation,
taiwan
that
had
to
move
off
the
mainland
under
chiang
kai-shek
and
they
are
still
fighting
for
their
independence.
Today
we
passed
a
resolution
I
think,
a
year
or
two
ago
supporting
the
nation
of
taiwan
and
they're
trying
to
work
with
our
state
through
mou's
and
other
things.
D
A
A
Item
number
two:
on
today's
calendar
house
bill
572
has
been
taken
off
notice
by
chairman
reagan.
With
that
we
are
going
to
go
out
of
session
for
just
a
moment.
I
think
we
have
completed
what
we're
going
to
call
a
regular
calendar
and
we're
going
to
take
a
quick
look
at
some
of
the
inner
workings
of
our
lottery
funded
education
system,
lou
hinneman.
If
you
would
please
come
to
the
front,
I'm
going
to
gavel
out
of
session
now
and
we're
going
to
hear
from
mr
liu
henneman.
C
I
appreciate
this
opportunity,
as
you
begin
to
think,
through
the
lottery
calendar,
and
so
just
for
a
bit
of
context.
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
sense
of
where
we
are
with
the
lottery
and
what
that
looks
like
going
back
just
a
just
a
hair.
When
the
general
assembly
passed,
the
tennessee
promise
scholarship
act,
one
of
the
things
they
did
was
put
a
stake
in
the
ground
on
any
additional
or
excess
revenues
in
the
lottery,
sweeping
them
into
the
tennessee
promise
endowment.
C
C
So
a
self-sustaining
fund
off
of
earnings
would
look
something
like
you
know,
40
million.
If
we
can
reach
that
point,
then
all
of
a
sudden
everything
that
we
have
been
sweeping
one
year
after
the
next
from
the
excess
revenues
in
the
lottery
can
then
begin
to
be
used
for
expansions.
A
lot
of
these
expansions
have
come
before
you
in
recent
years.
C
Examples
buying
power
for
the
hope,
scholarships,
expansion
of
dual
enrollment,
adding
eligible
institutions
to
other
lottery
programs,
things
of
that
nature
we're
almost
there.
The
last
couple
years,
tennessee
higher
education,
commission
and
tsac
have
begun
to
build
into
those
projected
sweeps
about
a
five
to
five
million
dollar
or
so
window
of
financial
opportunity.
Why
do
we
do
this?
We
do
this
because
over
time
there
are
necessary
adjustments
and
tweaks
to
existing
lottery
programs
that
need
to
be
taken
into
account
in
any
given
fiscal
year.
C
This
would
not
be
enough
money
to
substantially
alter
a
program
to
you
know,
add
a
new
program
altogether.
What
these
are
really
designed
to
do
is
to
accommodate
you
know,
past
inequities
or
past
language
that
has
in
some
way
prohibited
a
student
who's
in
an
existing
program
for
maximizing
their
award
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
again,
in
any
given
fiscal
year
in
recent
years,
we've
we've
said
three
to
five
million
dollars
is
your
is
your
kind
of
flex
space
and
the
same
holds
true
for
this
year?
C
One
other
comment
about
you
know:
maybe
the
bills
on
your
calendar
this
year
last
year
for
many
of
you
who
are
returning
this
year,
the
legislature
passed
the
fast
act,
which
was
the
single
largest
financial
aid
overhaul
in
several
decades
and
part
of
the
original
bill
that
moved
out
of
the
education
subcommittee
and
the
full
committee
were
four
components
that
dealt
with.
As
I
mentioned,
specific
student
groups
who,
for
whatever
reason,
the
language
in
the
code
made
it
more
difficult
for
them
to
you,
know,
pursue
their
education
based
on
the
language.
C
C
Those
those
bills.
Again,
that's
house
bill,
139,
house,
bill,
646
and
house
bill
1150
on
your
calendar
are
the
three
components
from
the
fast
act
last
year
that
the
higher
education
commission
brought
those
again
to
very
specifically
address
situations
facing
students
last
year
that
the
language
needed
to
be
corrected.
C
H
C
Sure
so,
currently
the
the
endowment
is
earning
where
this
year,
for
example,
I
think
the
expenditures
on
the
lottery,
the
tennessee
promise
was
right
at
31.8
million.
We
were,
I
think,
like
at
31.5
or
31.2
somewhere
in
that
neighborhood,
so
just
under
the
earnings
paying
for
the
actual
cost
of
the
program
this
year.
One
caveat
to
that
is
we
had
a
number
of
students
who
were
eligible
but
didn't
enroll
during
this
cycle.
C
Moving
forward.
You
know,
we
see
you
know
kind
of
those
numbers
progressively
getting
higher,
but
the
earnings
with
every
year
that
we
sweep
the
excess
lottery
revenue
in
from
the
tells
from
the
lottery
program.
You
know
the
compounding
interest,
puts
us
even
closer
and
thank
you
to
the
treasurer
who
does
an
amazing
job
with
those
funds.
Our
projections,
while
very
conservative,
have
been
pretty
true
to
form.
C
C
C
C
C
H
B
C
There's
there's
about
five
million
that
we're
setting
aside
so
okay
for
these
types
of
accommodations,
the
actual
sweep,
if
you
include
the
funding
from
the
the
gaming
dollars,
is
really
more
on
the
order
of
you
know,
probably
anywhere
between
70
and
100
million,
depending
on
how
well
the
lottery
does
in
a
given
year.
Okay,.
B
So-
and
I
know
this
is
going
to
be
a
ballpark
figure,
so
you
know
I
won't
hold
you
to
the
specific
amount,
but
once
we
reach
that
level
of
sustainability
again,
if
as
long
as
gaming
and
the
lottery
holds
true,
what
would
be
a
ballpark
number?
You
think
at
that
point
that
we
would
have
the
ability
to
work
with
to
maybe
expand
some
lottery
programs.
What
would
be
just
a
general
figure?
I
think.
A
Members
any
other
questions.
I've
I've
got
one
about
the
endowment.
Is
there
a
number,
a
percentage
that
is
anticipated
that
we
are
working
off
of
for
a
return?
Those
dollars
are
invested.
I'm
sure,
is
there
a
percentage
that
we
work
off
of
with
that
and
do
we
recognize
that
we
have
been
in
a
bull
market
for
the
last
10
11
years
and
that
these
bull
markets
don't
last
forever
sure.
D
A
A
J
All
please
proceed.
Thank
you,
chairman
lafferty.
This
is
an
administration
bill
and
it's
a
bill
designed
to
help
foster
children.
We
feel
like
foster
children,
as
they
age
out
of
the
program
may
be
disadvantaged
in
some
ways.
They
may
have
less
family
financial
support
available
to
them
and
they
may
have
also
experienced
adverse
childhood
experiences,
and
so
this
bill
helps
foster
children
in
two
ways:
number
one.
It
expands
the
hope,
lottery,
the
hope,
foster
child
tuition
grant
program
and
it
creates
a
foster
child
liaison
pilot
program
at
universities.
J
Let
me
make
a
few
more
comments
on
each
of
those
two
parts
currently
in
order
to
be
eligible
for
the
the
hope
foster
child
tuition
grant.
You
have
to
have
been
in
the
custody
of
dcs
for
one
year
between
your
14th
birthday
and
when
you
would
have
aged
out
of
the
program
at
age
18.,
but
there
are
some
foster
children
that
enter
the
program
after
they've
turned
age
17.
J
and
they
can't
acquire
that
one
year
in
custody
because
there's
not
a
year
left
between
when
they
enter
the
program
after
they
turn
age,
17
and
their
18th
birthday.
So
the
first
change
that
this
bill
makes
is:
it
expands
eligibility.
It
allows
these
17
year
olds,
who
enter
the
the
foster
care
program
after
their
17th
birthday,
to
be
eligible
for
this,
this
child
tuition
grant.
J
The
liaison
would
provide
them
with
information
would
mentor
them
would
advocate
for
them
with
the
goal,
ultimately,
of
increasing
graduation
rates
and
retention
rates
for
these
individuals
at
school.
At
the
universities,
this
bill
does
have
a
fiscal
note.
It's
about
twenty
seven
thousand
dollars
in
the
first
year
goes
up
to
forty
four
thousand
in
the
second
year
and
sixty
one
thousand
in
the
third
year,
but
there
will
be
a
funding
letter
from
the
governor
to
support
this.
These
funds,
though,
would
ultimately
come
from
the
lottery.
D
And
I
will
listen
to
the
rest
of
the
committee.
I
think
we
should
always
support
our
foster
children
who
need
all
the
support
that
we
can.
We
can
offer
and
being
that,
I'm
I'm
adding
this
up
to
mr
hanneman.
If
I'm
I'm
doing
this
wrong
at
some
point
you
let
me
know,
but
with
a
total
of
the
third
year,
it's
not
taking
any
more
than
61
000
a
year
out
of
the
lottery
fund.
I
would
recommend
that
we
pass
this
bill.
A
J
J
The
projections
are
that
five
foster
children
would
would
use
this
expanded
eligibility
to
receive
one
of
these
tuition
grants
each
year
and
that
there
would
be
a
retention
rate
such
that
about
three
of
them
would
continue
the
next
year.
So
in
year,
number
one
there'd
be
five
students
in
your
number,
two
there'd
be
five
new
students
with
three
being
retained
from
the
first
year.
J
The
cost
is
highest
in
the
third
year
and
it's
because
in
the
third
year
you've
got
five
new
students,
three
being
retained
from
the
prior
year
and
and
some
fraction
of
three
being
retained
from
two
years
earlier.
So
the
the
sixty
one
thousand
dollar
figure
in
year
three
covers
all
of
the
foster
children
in
the
program
which
is
gonna
again
be
a
number
of
children.
That's
between
five
and
ten,
depending
on
which
year
the
program
you're.
Looking
at
whether
it's
your
years,
you're
one
two
or
three
all
right.
H
J
A
A
B
This
bill
modernizes
the
helping
heroes
act
by
allowing
tsac
the
latitude
to
add
recent
and
future
campaign
designations
through
rule
rather
than
statute,
and
also
removes
a
provision
that
limits
the
scope
of
the
helping
heroes
program.
And,
of
course,
a
lot
of
the
discussion
came
with
mr
hanuman
as
he
described
this.
But
this
does
fit
within
the
the
fiscal
note
does
fit
within
the
lottery.
Education
accounts,
5
million
sweeper
that
he
was
referring
to.
A
Sounds
like
that's
conclusion:
that
is
the
committee
committee.
If
we
have,
we
got
any
questions
on
the
bill.
Question's
been
called
any
objections,
all
right.
Let's
go
ahead
and
vote
on
house
bill,
1150,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
all
opposed
no
and
the
eyes
have
it.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
out
full
committee.
A
I
And
committee,
and
while
I'm
here
with
this
legislation
for
the
third
year,
bringing
it
back
to,
I
understand
the
precaution,
and
I
appreciate
the
information
given
previously
I'm
if
you'd
indulge
me
for
a
few
minutes
to
plead
my
case
for
for
this
legislation,
I
would
appreciate
it
and
would
appreciate
your
consideration
house
bill.
711
expands
the
definition
of
eligible
post-secondary
institutions
to
include
western
governors
university
tennessee
as
an
eligible
institution
to
serve
students
through
the
non-traditional,
hope
scholarship.
I
I
This
scholarship
serves
adult
learners
who
are
looking
to
be
to
better
the
lives
of
their
families
through
education,
which
is
the
very
student
w-g-u-t-e-tn
was
designed
to
serve
now
members.
As
I
stand
here
before
you
today,
I
support
our
state,
brick
and
mortar
institutions
as
much
as
anybody
and
appreciate
the
jobs
they're
doing
for
our
traditional
students
and
non-traditional
students,
but
also
support
options
for
students,
including
those
non-traditional
students.
I
A
little
bit
about
western
governors
university
tennessee,
it's
a
non-profit,
60
plus
degrees,
business,
k-12,
teacher
education,
I.t
health
professions,
including
nursing.
It
is
a
competency-based
education,
which
means
students
can
go
at
their
pace.
They
can
complete
as
fast
or
as
slow
as
their
schedule
allows.
Very
flexible.
I
I
This
memorandum
of
understanding
shall
specify
the
roles
and
responsibilities
of
the
state,
wgu
and
non-profit
corporation
named
wgu
tennessee
to
be
formed.
Wgu
tennessee
makes
them
a
tennessee
institution.
They
also
have
legislative
authority
authorization
through
house
bill
189.
So
let's
look
at
the
return
on
investment.
After
six
years,
the
state
provided
a
one-time
5
million
appropriation
to
support
the
establishment
and
development
of
wgu
tennessee,
and
the
online
competency-based
degree
programs
initiated
by
wgu.
I
I
88
percent
of
wgu
graduates
are
employed
full
time
in
their
degree
field.
77
percent
of
wgu
graduates
say
their
education
was
worth
worth.
The
cost
compared
to
the
national
average
of
37
percent
three-year
student
loan
default
for
graduating
undergrads
is
4.1
percent.
Less
than
half
the
national
average
of
9.7
percent.
I
Why
should
wg
users
be
wgu?
Tennessee
students
be
eligible,
69
percent
are
underserved
students,
41,
first
generation
24
rural
23,
low
income,
17
ethnic
minority
median
age
is
39
years
old,
non-traditional
students,
71
work,
full-time
10
percent
work,
part-time
9.6
are
active,
military
veterans
or
spouses
of
military
members
bear
with
me
a
little
longer
and
I'll
finish.
I
Setting
the
record
straight:
let's,
let's
look
at
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
claimed
if
we
allow
wgu
tennessee
to
access
non-traditional,
hope,
it'll,
open
up
the
floodgates.
This
proposed
bill
is
narrowly
tailored
to
apply
to
only
wgu
tennessee
as
a
state
endorsed
competency-based
university
operating
in
tennessee
for
more
than
five
years.
Any
other
college
would
also
be
required
to
go
through
the
process
of
proving
their
performance
outcomes.
I
I
In
conclusion,
as
a
conservative,
I
appreciate
the
job
wgu
is
doing
for
our
non-traditional
students
and
the
quality
of
education.
These
students
are
getting
for
their
investment.
I
firmly
believe
that
allowing
non-traditional
hope
scholarships
to
go
to
wgu
tennessee
students
is
a
worthwhile
investment
and
the
outcomes
are
worth
it
in
the
state
of
tennessee.
A
H
H
I
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
lou
haneman,
with
the
tennessee
student
assistance
corporation
and
and
t
heck
as
well
our
higher
education
commission.
It's
my
understanding
that
that
original
chartering
language
was
considered
the
authorization
to
operate
here
in
tennessee
as
a
chartered
entity.
In
fact,
it
also
created
their
chancellorship
in
addition
to
that,
and
so,
while
they
don't,
they
don't
receive
operating
dollars
from
the
state
of
tennessee.
I
don't
believe
they
go
through.
C
H
C
H
D
A
D
A
A
The
idea
of
bringing
some
extra
competition
into
the
state
to
go
against
these
traditional
brick
and
mortar
institutions,
I'm
enamored
by
cost
in
higher
education
consistently
for
decades,
has
outpaced
inflation
on
every
other
item
out
there
when
and
where
something
like
this
can
be
implemented
and
help
bring
down
the
cost,
I'm
a
big
fan
of,
and
I
hope
that
we
aren't
if
we
get
this
done
next
year,
I
hope
that
we
don't
put
wgu
in
a
situation
where
the
money's
so
easy
they
lose
that
business
acumen.
That's
helped
them
to
be
successful.
A
A
B
B
It
permits
students
in
the
fall
of
their
junior
year
in
high
school
to
enter
a
two-year
institution
to
simultaneously
earn
a
high
school
diploma
and
an
associate
degree
in
two
years.
This
bill
would
raise
the
scholarship
funds
from
available
from
a
thousand
per
semester
to
1250
per
semester,
currently
cost
about
four
thousand
dollars
per
year.
So
this
would
give
them
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
per
year
toward
that
four
thousand
dollars.
B
A
D
B
A
A
B
A
A
I
we've
already
had
motion
in
a
second
on
the
bill.
Are
there
any
further
questions
from
the
committee
seeing
none
committee
members,
all
those
in
favor
of
passing
house
bill
646,
please
respond
by
saying
aye,
any
opposed
so
say
no
and
the
eyes
have
it.
Thank
you,
mr
faizon.
We're
going
to
full
committee.
A
Let's,
let's
take
one
out
of
order
here,
representative
chairman
zachary
has
waited
very
patiently.
Thank
you
for
that
item.
Number
13
on
the
addendum
house
bill
708.,
chairman
zachary.
Thank
you
for
coming
to
the
podium.
Do
I
have
motion
on
the
pill
and
second,
all
right
chairman
zachary
you're
recognized
thank.
K
You,
mr
chairman
and
committee
members,
this
is
a
fairly
simple
bill,
but
will
have
a
profound
impact
on
the
disadvantaged
resident
students
in
the
ta
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
and
this
has
zero
to
do
with
lottery
funds
as
we
transition
away
from
your
previous
discussion.
As
many
of
you
know,
the
ben
ashley
grant
was
passed
in
the
1990s.
It
provides
financial
assistance
to
disadvantaged
undergraduate
students
here
in
our
state.
K
The
way
we
have
drafted
this
piece
of
legislation
members,
it
is
extremely
narrow
and
only
applies
to
south
college,
which
is
which
is
primary
campuses
in
knoxville.
South
college
is
the
only
is
the
only
private
institution
that
has
its
primary
campus
domiciled
in
tennessee
is
regionally
accredited
and
regionally
accredited
and
currently
not
receiving
access
to
the
ben
actually
grant.
K
The
grant
is
not
funded
with
lottery
dollars.
As
I
mentioned,
the
additional
grant
funds
will
be
covered
by
the
existing
tennessee
student
assistant
award
program
fund
and
will
not
require
an
additional
state
appropriation
each
year.
113
million
dollars
is
appropriated
to
that
fund
and
currently
103
million
dollars
is
being
used
so
you'll
notice.
This
has
this.
This
particular
piece
of
legislation
has
a
1.8
million
dollar
fiscal
note
that
that
1.8
will
come
out
of
that
113
that
is
already
appropriated,
so
we're
not
pulling
money
from
any
additional
resources.
There's
no
additional
appropriation
needed
for
this.
K
The
113
million
dollars,
that's
appropriated
for
the
tsaa
fund
will
cover
this
1.8
million
and
instead
of
103
million
being
used
and
10
million
sitting
unused
we're
going
to
be
able
to
take
an
additional
1.8
million
to
help
disadvantaged
students
that
will
be
there
will
be
resident
students
here
in
the
state.
So
with
that
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions.
A
H
K
D
Thank
you
chairman,
and
I
just
like
to
make
mention.
I
see
you
that
you
have
leadership
of
south
college
here
today
and
they
came
last
week
as
y'all
can
tell
we're
pretty
fiscally
conservative
here
and
a
lot
of
times.
We
moved
pretty
fast
and
didn't
really
have
a
good
understanding
of
where
we
was
going.
We
kind
of
got
it
confused
with
the
lottery
a
little
bit,
but
we
took
a
week
to
clear
it
up
and
we
appreciate
you
coming
back
and
running
the
bill
again
and
so
I'm
supportive.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
A
A
D
Thank
you
chairman
members,
752
is
brought
to
you
by
the
tbr
and
they're
asking
for
an
increase
in
and
where
we
fund
four
dual
enrollment
courses.
As
you
see
it
has
a
9.9
million
dollar
fiscal
note.
However,
they
came
to
me
right
before
committee
and
they're
working
on
see
if
they
can't
reduce
this
a
little
bit.
D
So
I'm
going
to
ask-
and
I
don't,
but
I
don't
have
the
language
yet
and
saying
that
it
does
exceed
the
5
million
threshold-
we're
looking
at
I'm
going
to
ask
if
I
may
roll
this
for
one
week
and
see
what
we
may
come
up
with
to
see.
If
there's
any
funds
available
on
the
committee
maybe
deal
with
this
next
week,.
A
A
D
Members
of
this
particular
one-
this
is
a
brought
this
for
a
more
tech.
Now
more
tech
is
a
post-secondary
institution
that
is
eligible
for
under
a
certain
code
in
our
state,
it's
a
private,
non-profit,
technical
school.
I
brought
legislation
for
them
before
it's
promised.
It's
a
primary
campus,
it's
domiciled
in
in
shelby
county
in
memphis,
and
it's
been
there
for
75
years.
They
are
an
incredible
vo
tech
school.
That's
doing
a
lot
of
good
work
for
vote
of
vocational
development
in
in
west
tennessee.
D
In
addition
to
offering
diploma
certificate
and
associate
degree
programs,
they
also
offer
a
baccalaureate
degree
through
an
articulation
agreement
with
regionally
accredited
post-secondary
institutions.
This
particular
request
is
for
them
to
be
able
to
receive
the
dual
enrollment.
It's
got
a
fiscal
note
of
148
thousand
and
by
my
calculations,
we're
still
under
a
little
little
bit
over
now,
including
this
500
000.
A
D
D
It
took
me
four
years
to
to
do
so,
but
this
the
bill
we
had
written
is
so
tightly
written
for
them
and
that
you
know
you
can
any
any
institution
can
tightly
write
it
for
for
them,
but
this
particular
institution
is
doing
a
lot
of
good
for
workforce,
develop
development
in
shelby
county.
They
got
a
great
track
record
of
75
years
and
after
going
through
it
for
four
years
before
the
committee
at
the
time,
just
felt
that
this
was
a
worthy
institution
to
to
invest
in.
D
But
to
answer
your
question-
and
I
don't
know
if
mr
hanuman
might
want
to
say
say
more,
but
any
member
at
any
time
could
can
draft,
and
then
we
could
take
that
particular
legislation
on
the
merits
of
that
particular
legislation.
I
just
bring
it
before
you
because
I
think
this
is
a
last
year.
We
they,
they
opened
up
a
a
car
technical
institute.
They
built
this
new
one
and
they're
training
people
how
to
work
on
cars
which
all
the
car
dealers
down
in
west
tennessee
greatly
appreciate,
because
they
couldn't
find
enough
workers.
H
J
J
What
is
how
would
you
describe
the
differences
between
the
western
governor's
university
application
or
bill,
and
this
one
I
mean,
maybe
I
know
some
of
the
differences
it
sounds
like
more
tech
is
in
the
state
of
tennessee.
Western
governor's
university
was
was
not
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
headquartered
in
in
salt
lake
utah,
salt
lake
city
utah.
J
Maybe
there's
some
other
differences
that
might
have
to
do
with
accreditation,
whether
they're
public,
whether
they're
private?
Could
you
just
I
don't
know,
maybe
compare
the
two
institutions
so
that
we
kind
of
have
a
sense
of
what's
different
about
them.
So
we
know
why
we,
we
sort
of
deferred
the
bill
that
dealt
with
western
governors
university
and
and
what
would
be
different
about
this
one
so
that,
if
a
lot
of
these
institutions
inside
of
the
state
outside
of
the
state,
private
institutions,
non-accredited
institutions,
universities,
like
arizona,
state
or
alabama
that
have
online
programs.
D
I
don't
know
if,
if
I
can
answer
but
comparing
to
wgu
wgu
is,
is
a
you
know,
an
online
higher
educational
institution,
this
particular
one
vote
there.
They
are
a
hands-on
vote,
tech,
school
training,
people
in
hivac,
welding
car
tech,
things
that
are
producing
jobs
in
our
community
and
state
and
which
is
very,
very
important.
D
One
time
I
was
there
visiting
and
this
young
man
who
was
being
trained
in
in
the
car
mechanics.
He
said
this
particular
school
with
this
training
has
changed
my
life
because
you
come
out
of
some
dire
circumstances
growing
up
in
the
inner
city
of
memphis.
So
I
don't
know
if
there
is
a
comparison
to
wggu
of
than
they
are
what
they
are,
and
this
is
a
hands-on
bow
tech
institution
training
people
how
to
get
jobs
with
certificates.