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House Education Administration Committee- March 24, 2021
C
D
C
Thank
you
very
much
members.
I
know
some
of
our
members
are
in
and
out
having
to
carry
bills
and
other
committees
watch
our
quorum.
We
have
to
have
nine
for
our
quorum,
so
if
you
don't
have
to,
unless
you're
going
to
run
a
bill,
let
us
know
but
don't
jump
up
and
go
out
just
in
case.
We
got
to
keep
nine
of
you
in
here.
C
Okay,
all
right
as
we
begin,
though,
I
always
like
to
start
our
committee
out
with
a
with
a
prayer,
because
what
we
do
is
we're
sitting
here,
making
legislation
which
affects
the
children
across
our
state,
and
so
I
was
one
of
my
favorite
one
of
my
favorite.
C
I
had
that
problem
the
other
day.
Usually
I
can't
get
on
the
zoom
though,
but
I
was
reading
the
passage
the
other
day.
I
think
it
was
if
I
remember
psalms,
119
73.
C
It
says
god
you
created
me,
you
made
me
now
give
me
the
sense
to
obey
you
and
I
think
that's
what
we
need
to
we
need
to
remember.
We
already
have
all
the
answers.
This
bow
our
heads
holy
father.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
blessings
of
this
day
and
that
you
have
given
us
the
opportunity,
the
responsibility
to
come
together
as
a
constitutional
government
and
work
on
what's
best
for
the
children
and
the
residents
and
the
people
of
our
state
use
us
to
glorify
your
name.
C
C
C
E
C
Thank
you,
chairman
hurt.
What
we're
going
to
do
a
member
is
coming
out,
I'm
going
to
call
you
up
and
give
you
about
30
60
seconds,
you
don't
mind
since
we've
got
a
lot
of
people
and
then
we
also
have
a
calendar
of
bills.
C
To
kind
of
introduce
yourself
tell
us
a
few
things
about
yourself
and
once
you're
interested,
then
we
can
ask
if
anybody
has
a
question
and
then
we
will
have
a
vote
for
confirmation
and
so
members,
just
for
one
thing,
item
number
six
has
been
objected
to
because
the
person
could
not
be
here.
They
will
be
here
next
week.
That's
item
number
six
hjr0109.
C
Our
first
confirmation
is
chris
patterson,
mr
patterson.
If
you
come
on
up
hjr122,
if
you
come
up
and
have
a
seat,
make
sure
your
mics
on
identify
yourself
and
you
may
begin.
F
Thank
you
chairman.
My
name
is
chris
patterson,
I'm
from
shelby
county
live
in
east
shelby
county
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today,
and
certainly
this.
This
potential
appointment
means
a
lot
to
me
and-
and
I
appreciate
the
time
a
little
about
myself,
I'm
a
lawyer,
primarily
business
litigation
and
some
local
government
municipal
work
serve
on
a
handful
of
boards,
the
presently
the
tennessee
education
lottery
board.
I
suppose
I,
if
I'm
fortunate
enough
to
be
appointed
to
this
I'll,
be
resigning
from
that.
F
I'm
married,
my
wife
is
a
physician
having
trained
at
the
health
science
center
in
memphis.
University
system
means
a
lot
to
me
and
my
family,
my
father
went.
There
went
as
a
graduate
from
the
university
system,
my
in-laws,
my
wife.
F
G
C
H
Thank
you,
chairman
hurt.
We
first
of
all
appreciate
your
your
willingness
to
to
put
yourself
out
there
and
to
serve
in
this
capacity,
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask
you
this
question
and
honestly.
This
would
just
kind
of
be
a
standing
question
for
the
other
nominees
as
well,
so
feel
free
to
just
in
your
comments.
H
If
you
want
to
answer
it,
you
know
there
are
times
when
we
see
things
take
place
on
a
college
campus
that
are
not
representative
of
the
values
of
the
people
of
tennessee
and
whether
that's
from
a
professor
or
an
organization
whatever
it
might
be.
H
F
You
for
the
question
I
I
you
know,
I
think
it's
important.
I
certainly
deport
an
issue.
It's
not
that's
not
a
surprise
that
that
issue.
That
question
is
raised,
and
so
I
appreciate
you
asking
that.
I
certainly
recognize
that
a
large
part
of
our
student
population
across
the
system
are
young
people
and
by
going
into
post-secondary
education,
it
gives
gives
us
as
a
state
an
opportunity
to
to
influence
students
and
impress
upon
them
the
values
of
of
tennesseans,
and
I
think
that
it's
that's
critical
and
certainly
being.
F
I
would
hope
to
be
able
to
be
a
conduit
between
this
body,
the
legislature
and
to
ensure
that
there
are
opportunities
to
shape
and
mold
young
people
to
to
espouse
the
values
that
I
know
that
you
hold
dear
and
all
of
us
as
tennesseans
too.
H
No
follow
up
again,
I
just
you
know,
would
encourage
you
to
do
that
and
again,
just
and
ultimately
remember
that
that
we
are
serving
the
people
of
tennessee
and
their
value
set,
and
when
we
see
things
happen
on
those
college
campuses,
it's
the
people
of
tennessee
who
are
rightfully
upset
absolutely
we
we
hear
from
them
and
then
you
will
definitely
hear
from
us.
So
so
we
we
ask
you
to
kind
of
help
that
on
the
front
end
and
and
to
to
ensure
that
those
values
are
espoused.
Of
course.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
E
C
Thank
you
chairman.
The
next
one,
hjr
121
for
our
appointee
for
the
university
of
tennessee
board
of
trustees
is
mr
decosta
jenkins,
mr
jenkins,
you
may
come
to
the.
C
I
I
I
worked
at
deloitte
for
11
years
and
I'm
currently
the
president
and
ceo
of
national
electric
service,
I'm
a
unicorn,
I'm
a
I'm
a
I'm,
a
native
nationalian,
most
people
that
come
to
nashville
or
you
see
around
nashville
aren't
from
nashville.
I
I
serve
on
the
board
of
pinnacle
financial
partners,
the
middle
tennessee
ymca,
I'm
the
immediate
as
chair
of
the
american
public
power
association.
So.
E
Thank
you,
sir
chairman
white.
Anything
before
we
expand
for
questions.
H
I
Sure,
being
on
the
board
of
the
university
of
tennessee,
it's
extremely
important
to
me
to
represent
tennessee
and
to
represent
those
values,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
that
we
understand
their
intersections
and
we
need
to
be
at
those
intersections
and
we
try
to
guide
our
young
students,
so
they
understand
those
intersections
so
that
we
don't
cross
those
intersections.
So
I
think
that's
where
I
stand
on
that
issue.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
this
is
a
statement
more
than
a
question.
I
want
to
thank
mr
jenkins
for
his
tireless
service
at
nes,
particularly
with
the
efforts
he
made
last
year
after
the
tornadoes
hit
nashville.
A
I
literally
saw
the
crews
working
overnight
to
restore
power
to
north
nashville,
to
make
sure
that
my
church
had
power,
that
we
could
service
that
community
and
it
was
because
of
his
herculean
efforts.
They
were
able
to
do
that
and
even
as
we
went
into
the
pandemic,
to
make
sure
that
persons
who
were
on
the
border
line
of
maybe
even
having
services
cut
off,
could
off
reach
out
to
us
and
try
to
find
some
way
to
get
those
services
paid
so
that
everybody
would
be
in
in
compliance.
A
So
I
appreciate
what
you
did
because
people
just
don't
know
the
work
that
you
did
to
make
sure
again
we
had
power
restored
in
that
area
and
that
everybody
was
safe.
So
I
want
to
say
again
thank
you
for
that
work.
Thank.
D
E
C
Thank
you.
Our
next
guest
hjr120
miss
jamie
woodson.
You
can
come
on
up
the
microphone,
let
me
say,
as
she
makes
her
way
up
when
I
first
came
to
general
assembly
12
years
ago,
ms
woodson
was
serving
as
a
state
senator
over
here.
So
many
of
you
already
already
know
her,
and
then
she
was
had
a
score
for
many
many
years
and
who's
worked
with
the
educational
committee
for
many
many
years.
So
ms
woodson,
thank
you
for
being
here
and
that
mic
went
off
again.
J
C
J
We
go.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
My
name
is
jamie
woodson
and
it's
a
real
privilege
to
be
before
you
today.
I
was
a
little
under
two
years
ago
before
you
for
the
same
confirmation,
but
I
was
on
one
of
the
new
terms
for
the
body,
so
it's
wonderful
to
be
here
with
you
again.
I
grew
up
in
west
tennessee
and
migrated
to
east
tennessee
as
the
orange
sheep
of
my
family
and
went
to
undergrad
in
law
school
at
the
university
of
tennessee.
J
Today
I
had
the
privilege
of
serving
in
this
body
and
on
the
similar
version
of
this
committee
when
I
was
in
the
legislature
and
for
six
years
in
the
senate,
seven
years
in
the
senate-
and
it's
just
an
honor
to
be
here
before
you
today.
The
university
of
tennessee
is
an
important
institution
to
our
state.
Both
educationally
and
economically,
its
mission
is
incredibly
important
as
a
land-grant
institution,
and
we
take
that
responsibility
very
very
seriously.
J
E
H
And
so
I
remember
meeting
you
at
an
earlier
time
and
so
appreciate
your
your
service
and
and
to
your
point
when
I
was
at
ut
honestly,
I
I
was
in
classrooms
where
at
times
it
was
obvious,
the
professor
did
have
a
very
differing
world
view
than
mine,
politically
and
otherwise.
But
I
I
had
very
few
instances
where
I
felt
ostracized
or-
and
so
I
want
to
ensure
that
that
remains
the
case
at
the
university
of
tennessee.
H
J
J
I
We
served
together
in
the
general
assembly
and
and
jamie
was
a
leader
in
our
caucus
at
the
time
and
have
has
continued
that
leadership
through
your
career
and
excited
to
see
you
up
here
so
good
to
see
you
again
thank.
K
Thank
you
chairman.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
jamie
for
continuing
to
want
to
serve
us.
My
daughter
had
been
involved
in
some
campaigns
as
younger,
but
jamie's
was
the
first
really
big
campaign
that
she
was
campaigning
and
working
hard
in,
but
I
know
jamie's
family
and
I
know
where
your
heart
is,
and
I
appreciate
you
still
being
willing
to
do
public
service
for
all
of
us,
and
I
know
you'll
do
a
great
job
for
the
university
of
tennessee
and
representing
the
state
of
tennessee.
So
thank
you.
C
And
chairman
white-
and
I
just
want
to
point
out-
she
has
a
lovely
sister
who
lives
down
in
germantown
shelby
county,
my
district.
She
serves
on
the
germantown
board
of
aldermen
and
she
kind
of
keeps
me
informative
if
you're
misbehaving
so
yeah,
so
she's
she's
a
wonderful
asset.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
committing
yourself
and
taking
all
this
time
for,
for
the
university
of
tennessee
in
the
state
of
tennessee.
E
C
L
Good
afternoon,
is
it
on?
You
can
hear
me
good,
it's
a
privilege
to
be
here
this
afternoon.
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
be
confirmed
four
years
ago
for
the
university
of
memphis
board,
and
so
I'm
appreciative
of
the
opportunity
to
potentially
be
reconfirmed
to
serve
another
term
on
the
university
of
memphis
board.
L
I
am
a
proud
graduate
of
the
university
of
memphis,
both
undergrad
and
an
mba,
and
I'm
very
passionate
about
education,
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we
help
all
students
find
what
really
makes
them
tick,
and
someone
mentioned
the
concept
of
intellectual
diversity.
I
think
that's
so
important.
L
I
also
believe
that
it's
in
times
in
terms
of
your
your
question
to
all
of
us
that
there
are
a
number
of
teachable
moments
and
it's
not
just
in
the
classroom,
and
so
I
think
the
opportunity
that
we
have
as
all
of
us
as
leaders
in
the
community
as
adults
as
we're,
helping
shepherd
children
through
into
adulthood
that
we
take
the
opportunity
in
the
classroom
and
outside
of
the
classroom
to
have
open
discussions
about
how
they're
feeling,
what
they're
thinking
and
that
we
value
and
respect
different
opinions,
but
we'll
let
we
have
an
opportunity
to
teach
and
talk
about
why
we
feel
a
certain
way
and
why
something
made
you
feel
a
certain
way.
L
So
look
again,
if
we
confirmed,
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
serve
the
university
of
memphis
and
am
so
proud
of
of
what
we've
done
in
the
community.
L
I
really
feel,
like
all
of
the
universities
here
in
the
great
state
of
tennessee,
really
value
the
communities
in
which
we
live
and
are
a
big
part
of
the
state
of
tennessee.
So
thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
miss
springfield
members.
Any
questions
for
guest
representative
gillespie,
you're
recognized.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Susan.
It's
been
a
while
good
to
see
you
again.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
I
think
you're
a
great
asset
to
the
university
of
memphis
and
just
wanted
to
say.
I
know
we're
all
very
sad
that
president
rudd
is
leaving,
but
I'm
glad
that
if
you're
reconfirmed
that
you'll
be
a
part
of
that
process,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you.
G
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
and
I'm
just
gonna.
Ask
you
to
expand
a
little
bit
if
you
would,
as
my
colleague
representative
cochran,
made
about
impressing
the
tennessee
values,
people
attend
the
university
of
memphis,
because
it's
in
memphis
in
the
state
of
tennessee
right,
ut,
knoxville,
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
G
L
Oh
absolutely,
I
think
I
think,
that's
again,
that's
what
I
meant
about
teachable
moments
and
having
conversations
I
know
that
president
rudd
has
done
an
excellent
job
of
when
certain
things
happen,
whether
it's
in
the
university
of
memphis,
community
or
the
or
throughout
the
country
of
hosting
conversations
and
being
open
to
listening
and
and
encouraging
people
to
to
teach
one
another
about
the
importance
of
having
a
good
moral
compass.
C
I
I
I
I've
enjoyed
my
service
on
mtsu's
board
of
trust.
I'm
the
chairman
of
the
audit
and
compliance
committee
to
the
question
about
tennessee
values.
Middle
tennessee,
state
university
adopted
the
university
of
chicago
principle
of
respectful
act,
active
robust
and
civil
debate,
which
means
that
we
we
want
to
encourage
students
the
university
to
discuss
and
to
debate
all
sides
of
an
issue
in
a
respectful
way,
recognizing
the
need
to
respect
faculty
other
students,
opinions
and
the
values
of
our
state.
E
I
I
want
to
say
publicly
thank
you
for
your
service
to
our
state
and
so
many
areas
from
the
business
community,
the
to
civics
to
to
several
areas
and
so
proud
to
have
him
on
as
the
nominee
good
to
see
you
again.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
C
D
N
N
Good
afternoon,
I'm
so
honored
to
be
here
this
afternoon.
My
name
is
melissa,
stigall
jones
and
I
am
not
a
recovering
cpa,
so
I
was
actually
at
work
this
morning.
It's
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
busy
time
for
us,
but
I
am
a
partner
with
blackburn
children's
and
stegall.
We
have
four
offices.
We
are
in
greenville
tennessee,
kingsport,
tennessee,
johnson
city,
tennessee
and
boone
north
carolina,
I'm
also
a
mom,
a
wife
and
a
daughter.
N
I
am
also
a
proud
graduate
of
east
tennessee
state
university,
as
you
can
see
with
my
mask
and
my
daughter
recently
graduated
and
she
managed
to
graduate
a
semester
early,
which
turned
out
to
be
a
blessing
that
we
didn't
understand
at
the
time
in
december
of
2019,
so
she
got
to
attend
in
person
graduation
and
miss
that
the
covid
part
of
it
she
did.
I
did
not
serve
on
sga.
She
did.
She
was
a
recent
member.
N
She
was
a
conservative
member
of
sga
and
was
also
always
treated
with
respect
at
etsu
and
again,
there's
there's
always
going
to
be
differences
of
opinion,
but
was
always
treated
with
respect
she's.
Currently
an
mba
student
at
etsu,
my
son,
is
a
junior
at
science.
Hill
high
school
plays
on
the
football
team
in
the
track
team.
N
We
often
have
young
athletes
in
our
in
our
home
and
I
love
them
all
dearly.
I
am
a
passionate
about
students.
I
have
been
working
in
a
couple
of
different
committees
at
etsu
in
the
past,
I'm
a
member
of
the
governmental
relations
committee.
It's
probably
been
about
eight
years.
For
that
one
and
a
chair
of
the
rhone
scholar
committee.
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
have
heard.
That's
the
premier
scholarship
program
for
etsu
and
I've
enjoyed
that
they
teach
me
those
students
teach
me
them
more
than
I
think
that
I
could
ever
teach
them.
N
They're
they're
phenomenal,
phenomenal
students
and,
as
far
as
my
role
with
the
diversity,
there
is
a
committee
for
125
I'm
going
to
work
with
that.
I
do
not
think
I
was
chosen
to
be
on
this
committee
because
of
my
expertise
with
diversity
of
inclusion.
It
is
because
I'm
too
and
the
chair
of
the
audit
committee,
I
was
appointed
by
the
governor
to
fill
a
vacancy
in
july,
so
I'm
very
new.
N
This
is
my
first
confirmation,
I'm
the
newbie
newbie
here
this
morning
or
this
afternoon,
so
anything
I
can
do
to
open
up
channels
of
communication
with
the
students.
I'm
happy
to
do
that
at
any
time
and
my
my
phone
is
always
open
to
you.
If
you
have
anything,
you
would
ever
want
to
ask
me.
D
E
C
O
Our
foundation
is
deeply
committed
to
higher
education,
especially
rural
students,
to
go
to
and
through
higher
education,
huge
advocate
of
student
by
student
I
served
and
have
served
and
had
the
deep
honor
of
serving
on
the
inaugural
board
of
east
tennessee
state
university.
When
tennessee
board
of
regents
it
became
where
we
could
have
our
own
board.
I
love
the
fact
that
it
gives
us
flexibility
and
the
ability
to
really
govern
and
look
at
things
different
to
go
ahead
and
address
your
question
about.
How
do
I
serve?
O
And
you
know
what
is
my
view
of
being
a
trustee
at
east
tennessee
state
university?
It's
it's
a
deep
honor
and
privilege
and
responsibility
to
represent
the
values
of
the
state
of
tennessee.
You
all
do
that
every
single
day
it
is
a
fine
line
to
balance
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
you're,
respectful
of
all
what
everyone's
opinion,
something
that
I'm
hearing
I've
heard
several
times
mention,
but
the
intellectual
diversity,
I
feel,
is
a
deep
responsibility
of
each
board
member
each
student's
voice.
Matters.
O
Absolutely
needs
to
be
heard,
that's
how
we
grow
and
learn
and
that's
what
university
does,
but
at
the
same
time
the
reason
we
are
such
a
great
state
is
that
the
deep
values
to
our
family
and
our
beliefs
and
our
region
is
a
great
live
work
play
community
and
there's
an
opportunity
through
higher
education,
to
bring
all
of
these
opportunities
together,
and
I
like
to
find
it
where
we
are
at
common
ground
with
respect
and
we
teach
and
train.
As
a
young
student
in
east
tennessee
state
university,
I
received
my
undergraduate
degree
there.
O
O
I
have
a
non-paying
job
running
our
foundation,
but
I
believe
in
lifelong
learning
and
expanding
my
knowledge
base
and
as
a
trustee,
I
do
hope
to
preserve
that
wonderful
opportunity
that
took
that
young,
naive
country,
east
tennessee
girl
and
opened
up
my
world,
and
I
want
that
for
every
student
that
comes
through
the
doors
of
any
one
of
our
great
states.
Universities.
E
Thank
you,
miss
harris
members,
representative,
casada
you're
recognizing.
Thank
you,
hey
janet.
How
are
you.
I
Good
to
see
you
again,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
all
that
you
do
for
our
state
and
for
our
community
from
you
serving
on
the
state
school
board
to
your
foundation.
That's
changing
people's
lives,
young
people's
lives,
and
that's
just
that's
just
scratching
the
surface,
I'm
sure
you're
back
sore,
though
from
carrying
jim
that's,
you
know,
he's
a
lot
of
work
for
you,
but
thank
you
for
serving
once
again
for
our
state.
Thank
you.
It's
good
to
see
you.
P
You,
mr
chairman,
thanks
for
being
here
today,
it's
always
great
to
have
a
guest
from
district
72
and
I've
just
personally
been
able
to
witness
firsthand
what
what
you
and
mr
jim
and
the
heirs
foundation
has
done
in
our
district,
especially
at
perry
county.
The
school
system
that
I
work
at.
I
think
that
we
just
recently
went
into
the
highest
college
going
rate
in
the
state
in
our
county
and
that's
that's
some.
C
White
you're
recognized
and
thank
you,
and
I
also
want
to
relay
my
thanks
for
all
that
the
heirs
foundation
does
for
our
state,
our
high
school
students
and
rural
development
and
going
on
to
higher
education
and
y'all
do
so
much
for
our
state.
So
thank
you
very
much.
If
I
can
tell
you
this
a
personal
story,
real
quick
one
of
my
favorite
childhood
memories.
I
grew
up.
C
C
I
was
up
here
in
the
cold
weather,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
all.
You
do
and
appreciate
you.
C
C
C
Q
I
am
from
upper
north
tennessee,
otherwise
known
as
new
jersey
born
and
raised,
but
my
mama's
from
newport
and
that
in
itself
is
a
badge
of
honor.
I
am
told
so
my
mom
and
dad
both
are
graduates
of
east
tennessee.
I'm
also
a
graduate,
and
my
brother
is
a
graduate
who
lives
here
in
nashville.
So
as
bad
as
my
voice
is,
I
have
roots
in
tennessee
and
I've
always
been
fond
of
tennessee.
Q
I
am
the
proud
husband
of
my
wife
of
35
years
and
with
three
lovely
children,
a
lot
of
exchange
students
all
around
the
world
that
I
try
to
keep
tabs
of,
while
they're
in
singapore
and
france
and
other
places
that
they
come
from.
I
grow.
I
am
a
businessman,
I
am
a
retired
businessman.
Q
I
started
a
couple
firms,
I'm
currently
chairman
of
the
largest
e
s
broker
in
the
united
states,
so
my
involvement
comes
out
of
charlotte
north
carolina.
I
live
in
north
carolina,
I
notice
there
are
not
many,
and
I
noticed
this
four
years
ago.
There
are
not
many
board
members
that
are
from
out
of
state.
I
think
it
does
offer
me
a
unique
perspective
to
hear,
see
and
witness
and
meet
the
challenges
of
the
university.
Q
I've
obviously
met
wonderful
people,
jim
powell,
chairman
naswanger,
just
a
litany
of
people
that
I've
been
privileged
to
work
with
and
serve
with.
I'm
currently
chairman
of
the
finance
committee,
and
as
you
know,
there
have
been
challenges
during
covid
that
I
think
the
school
and
state
have
been
very
impressive
with
in
handling
those
issues
that
were
before
all
of
you
in
terms
of
education.
Q
Q
I
failed
and
I
became
a
businessman,
but
what
I
did
learn
from
my
dad
was
the
importance
of
education,
and
especially
from
him
being
the
first
of
his
family
and
the
only
member
of
his
eight
brothers
and
sisters
to
get
an
education,
so
I'm
very
passionate
about
people
that
begin
their
education
for
the
first
time
in
their
higher
education
for
the
first
time
in
their
family
in
their
family's
history,
I've
witnessed
some
challenges
at
the
board
level.
I've
witnessed
some
challenges
at
the
university,
I'm
proud
to
say.
E
C
E
Any
further
discussion
on
the
consent
calendar
any
questions
for
the
sponsor
question
been
called
any
objection
to
the
question.
Seeing
none
will
be
voting
on
the
consent
calendar.
All
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
aye
opposed
no
eyes
have
it.
Consent
calendar
moves
on
to
calendar
and
rules
and
chairman
white
you're
recognized.
C
E
E
C
C
C
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
understand
we
have
an
amendment.
I
show
drafting
code,
five,
four
six,
four,
sir,
that
is
correct.
C
D
You,
mr
chairman
and
committee,
this
is
the
first
time
I've
ever
had
the
opportunity
to
present
before
education
commit
committee.
I
watch
shaw
and
I
appreciate
greatly
the
challenges
and
hard
work
that
y'all
do
and
you
make
transportation
committee
look
so
easy.
I
just
want
to
say
that
up
front.
C
D
This
legislation
reinstates
the
tennessee
state
librarian
coordinator
position
within
the
department
of
education.
By
reinstating
this
position,
it
will
allow
the
department
to
promote
best
practices
among
school,
librarians
and
technology
coordinators,
while
also
developing
and
promoting
strategies
for
librarians
to
partner
with
other
classroom
instructors,
support
school
and
district
level.
Instructional
programs.
It
dovetails
perfectly
with
the
goals
set
by
the
department,
education,
strategic
plan,
tennessee
best
for
all
which
we
adopted
in
november
2019..
D
Mr
chairman,
I
think
this
legislation
can
be
best
with
your
permission
to
go
out
of
session
and
have
lindsey
kimmery
president
of
the
tennessee
association
of
school
librarians,
give
a
brief
background.
C
J
Good
afternoon
I'm
lindsay
kimmery,
president
of
the
tennessee
association
of
school
librarians
and
I'm
currently
the
coordinator
of
library,
services
for
metro,
nashville,
public
schools
and
I'm
a
former
williamson
county
teacher
and
librarian.
Thank
you,
representative
whitson.
Thank
you,
chairman
white.
Thank
you
leaders
and
thank
you
to
the
department
of
education
for
helping
draft
this
amendment,
hb
219
asked
for
the
reinstatement
of
a
state
coordinator
of
school
libraries
in
the
tennessee
department
of
education.
J
J
J
second
decades
of
research
indicate
that
there
is
a
positive
correlation
between
learners
attending
schools
with
a
full-time,
certified,
librarian
and
higher
scores
on
standardized
reading
tests.
Yet
we
have
massive
inconsistency
from
district
to
district
there's
a
huge
disparity
between
the
services,
a
librarian
can
provide,
who
has
access
to
funding
relevant
professional
development
and
supportive
administrators
than
that
of
a
librarian
who
has
no
funding
and
is
assigned
to
multiple
schools
due
to
budget
cuts
and
is
assigned
copious
non-library
related
duties.
J
And,
finally,
if
we
are
committed
to
setting
students
on
a
path
to
success
and
giving
students
access
to
a
high
quality
education,
no
matter
where
they
live,
then
our
blueprint
should
include
a
school
library
filled
with
current
relevant
high
quality
books,
materials
and
technologies
and
is
led
by
a
certified
full-time
school
librarian.
Who
is
there
to
support
students
by
connecting
to
and
extending
classroom
learning?
J
C
J
C
D
Thank
you
chairman,
and
I
met
lindsay
during
a
meeting
at
the
brentwood
library
and
she
impressed
upon
us
the
importance
of
this
position
and-
and
I
hope
it
does
have
a
a
physical
note,
but
we
hope
we
can
reach
up
and
meet
that
challenge.
Okay,.
C
C
I
renew
my
motion.
Okay
and
I
jumped
ahead
of
myself.
We,
the
amendment
rewrites
the
bill.
Well,
we
haven't
added
the
amendment
to
the
bill
any
further
discussion
on
the
amendment.
Any
objection
to
the
question.
All
those
in
favor
amen,
adding
amendment
4564
to
house
bill
219
indicator,
saying
aye
opposed
guys.
Have
it
we're
now
back
on
the
bills,
amended
questions
been
called
ejection,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
moving
house
bill,
219
to
finance
ways
and
means,
and
it
keeps
saying
aye
opposed
eyes
have
it.
C
C
You
got
a
motion
a
second.
You
may
begin.
R
First,
if
I,
if
I
could
just
for
a
second,
mr
chairman,
introduce
someone
that's
in
the
room
here
with
us
today
who
I've
been
working
with
on
this
bill
considerably
over
the
well
for
years
now,
it's
dr
steve
schwab,
who
is
the
chancellor
of
university
of
tennessee
center
for
health
sciences
in
memphis,
I'm
here
today,
taking
in
these
proceedings,
because
this
addresses
his
institution
plays
a
vital
role,
not
only
in
our
state
but
also
figures
into
this.
This
legislation
as
well.
R
What
we're
attempting
to
do
here
is
effectively
provide
a
medical
work.
It's
a
medical
workforce,
development
act.
R
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
increase
the
number
of
graduate
medical
education
or
what
people
commonly
refer
to
as
residencies
for
people
who
graduate
from
med
school,
where
there's
we're
in
a
export
business
of
medical
school
students
right
now,
because
we
have
more
medical
school
graduates
than
we
do
residences,
and
we
can
see
we
can
chart
trends
and
see
that
as
our
population
gets
older
and
continues
to
grow
well,
the
population
of
physicians
are
not
keeping
up
with
it,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
the
scientific
or
the.
R
The
studies
show
that
these
physicians
typically
remain
in
the
states
in
which
they
do
their
residencies,
that
more
so
than
where
they
go
to
medical
school.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
provide
more
residencies,
a
more
bigger,
more
robust
program
so
that
we
can
have
more
doctors
stay
within
the
borders
of
the
state
of
tennessee,
and
this.
R
C
We
have
a
motion
on
the
amendment,
have
a
second
have
a
second
and
for
the
discussion
on
the
amendment
hearing.
None
without
objection,
all
those
in
favor
adding
the
amendment
to
house
bill
443
and
it
keeps
saying
aye
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
we're
now
back
on
the
bill
as
property
amended
and
chairman
vaughn,
I
was
asked
to
read
one
thing
into
the
record:
yes,
sir,
for
your
confirmation,
the
the
question
is
the
residency
slots
discussed
in
this
bill
are
owned
and
operated
by
the
two
medical
by
the
excuse.
C
C
C
G
Thank
you
and
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
this
bill
because
it
says
in
the
bill
to
provide
medical
services
and
distress
rural
counties.
How
do
we
do
that?
By
increasing
residencies
in
chattanooga
jackson,
knoxville,
memphis
and
nashville.
R
Chairman
sapicki,
I
have
just
the
man
for
the
answer.
If
we
could
go
out
of
session
for
a
few
minutes,
dr
dr
schwab
has
been
up
here
twice
in
the
he
he's
a
a
brilliant
administrator
and
has
a
passion
for
this.
If
we
could
give
him
an
opportunity
to
answer
that,
I
could
answer
it,
but
if
this,
if
this
gentleman
has
battled
I-40
and
he's
not
used
to
it,
we
need
to
have
him
here.
Answer
that
question.
C
He's
on
this,
he
is
on
the
list.
So
without
objection
dr
schwab,
come
on
forward
and
I'll.
Tell
you
what
I'm
going
to.
Let's
say
two
minutes:
okay
and
then,
if
there's
ques,
then
there
will
be
questions
after
that,
possibly.
B
B
B
So
it's
four
years
of
medical
school,
three
years
of
family
medicine,
statistically,
we
know
across
the
united
states
that,
if
you
graduate
from
let's
say
chattanooga
that
you're
going
to
practice
statistically
within
125
miles
of
where
you
did
your
terminal
training
and
since
the
dominant
healthcare
providers
for
us
in
the
rural
areas
are
generalists,
not
specialists,
you
don't
need
a
cardiothoracic
surgeon
in
rural
tennessee.
B
You
need
primary
care
physicians
and
so
the
bulk
of
those
physicians
who
train
in
chattanooga
who
train
in
murfreesboro
who
train
in
jackson,
will
find
their
practice
within
120
miles
of
their
training
site
and
those
are
overwhelmingly
rural
positions.
That's
where
the
slots
are
today,
that's
where
the
need
is
today.
So
by
expanding
the
existing
certified
residency
programs,
you
will
get
more
family
physicians
in
the
state
of
tennessee
and
more
family
physicians
in
the
rural
areas.
G
If
it's
within
125
miles,
we
have
to
hope
that
they
drive
70
miles
away
from
knoxville
just
to
start
to
get
into
the
suburbs
of
the
area.
How
do
we
assure
in
this
bill
by
increasing
these
residencies?
That
all
we're
going
to
do
is
just
allow
more
people,
because
they
don't
there's
nothing
in
the
bill?
I
can
see
that
requires
them
to
go
to
distressed
counties.
It
just
says
they
can
go.
B
Doctor,
I
I
believe
your
point
is
well
taken.
If
you
allow
physicians
free
choice,
you
have
to
incent
physicians
to
go
where
you
want
them
to
go.
You
just
have
to,
and
I
believe
everyone
in
this
room
believes
in
free
choice.
B
B
So
the
spots
for
primary
care
physicians
are
being
driven
into
less
economically
advantaged
areas
and
for
physicians,
as
opposed
to
dentists,
there's
not
a
dramatic
difference
in
the
amount
of
money
they
can
earn
because
of
federal
and
state
programs
that
pay
physicians
for
seeing
cases
I'm
going
to
make
a
plug
here,
that's
not
true
for
dennis,
and
so
our
dental
mao
distribution
wouldn't
be
fixed
by
this
type
of
a
program,
because
you
have
to
have
a
mechanism
to
pay
dennis.
B
But
I
believe
this
is
the
best
mechanism
we
have
and
if
you
having
seen
restrictive
bills
before
that,
if
we
can
get
70
of
these
people
to
go
where
we
want
them,
then
I
think
that's
money
well
spent.
If
we
make
this
a
restrictive
bill,
then
you
will
not
get
the
best
and
brightest
to
go
to
a
restrictive
program
when
there
are
programs
for
these
young
men
and
women
that
are
not
restrictive
outside
the
state
of
tennessee,
so
remember
we're
competing
with
other
states.
B
So
we
want
the
best
and
the
brightest
to
come
to
the
tri-cities.
We
want
the
best
and
the
brightest
to
come
to
murfreesboro
and
I
think
you
incent
them
to
go
there
and
there
are
a
lot
of
ways
we
can
send
physicians
to
practice,
but
I
think
restrictions
in
the
united
states
have
not
worked.
We
have
a
rural
health
program
that
sends
people
into
the
distressed
areas
and
those
physicians
disproportionately
leave
when
they
finish
their
obligation.
B
So
we
need
a
mechanism
to
incent
them
and
step.
One
is
to
have
that
supply
of
physicians
who
you
get
a
chance
to
get,
because
if
they've
spent
three
years
in
the
tri-cities
doing
their
residency
program,
they
know
the
physicians,
they
know
the
referral
network.
That's
your
best
likelihood
to
keep
that
doctor.
So
it's
not
perfect,
but
I
think
the
restrictive
programs
in
the
united
states
simply
have
not
worked,
and
I
think
this
is
our
best
opportunity.
Jim.
G
What
better
incentive
to
give
our
residencies
or
our
residents
that
when
they
graduate
for
this
program,
that,
if
you
go
and
take
up
your
residence
or
your
your
practice
in
one
of
these
distressed
counties,
that
the
universities
would
work
to
forgive
their
debt,
would
that
not
be
a
greater
incentive
than
just
saying
we
hope
you
go?
We
hope
you
go
out
there.
Could
we
not
do
that,
like
we've
already
done
before.
B
I
I
think
incentive
programs
work,
so
I
I
think
that
any
incentive
we
can
get
to
get
family
physicians
and
behavioral
health
physicians
to
go
into
our
underserved
counties
is
a
tremendous
idea.
So
I
would
say
the
two
are
additive.
First,
you've
got
to
get
them
there
and
then
you've
got
to
incent
them
to
go
where
you
want
them
to
go,
but
once
you
get
them
in
knoxville
in
that
150
mile
circle,
you
have
they're
yours
to
lose
in
that
150
mile
circle.
B
So
how
do
you
incent
them
other
than
the
availability
of
positions
to
go
to
one
of
the
underserved
counties
that
are
perhaps
two
counties
away
from
the
city
of
knoxville?
I
think
debt
forgiveness
is
outstanding.
That's
an
outstanding
idea
how
we
could
come
up
with
a
program
to
do
that.
I'd
love
to
hear,
but
that
would
be
that
would
be
in.
That
would
be
a
wonderful
addition
to
this.
C
Strategy
any
further
questions:
sharon
speaking
about
right
now:
okay,
reverend
gillespie,
did
you
have
a
question
in
session
or
out
back
in
back
in
session?
Okay,
representative
love:
did
you
back
in
session
or
with
our
chancellor
schwab?
Your
question
on
my
way
to.
K
You,
mr
chairman,
and
and
my
question
kind
of
goes
along
with
representatives
of
pickies,
my
husband
teaching
the
teachers
in
the
residency
program
at
the
university
of
tennessee
knoxville
and
what
we
have
seen,
and
we
also
know
of
a
good
story
where
a
gentleman's
father
was
a
physician
in
a
small
rural
county
and
wanted
him
to
take
his
practice
over,
and
he
said
no,
I
don't
want
to
move
back
that
way.
I
want
to
be
closer.
K
I
want
to
be
in
by
knoxville
where
the
there
were
more
things
that
they
could
have
their
children
involved
and
all
that.
So
that's
my
question
I
mean,
and
then,
if
we
create
these
residency
programs,
I
mean
I'm
all
for
it,
but
I
don't
really
know
that
which
I
I
don't
really
know
that
we
have
a
place
for
them.
I
mean
in
these
rural
areas,
there's
got
to
be
a
building
and
facilities
for
them
to
go
practice,
so
I
mean
yeah
that
that's.
What
so
are
we
going?
Are
we
talking
about?
K
Where
are
they
going
to
go
when
they
go
out
like
if,
in
the
rural
areas,
there's
no
doctors,
offices
and
no
equipment
and
all
that
somebody
has
to
help
set
them
up
and
also
like
we
say,
they've
got
a
huge
loan
debt.
I
know
because
my
husband
and
my
daughter-
and
so
I
know
I
know
what
it
cost
to
do
that.
So
that's
why
I'm
saying
it's
not
I'm
not
against
against
this,
but
you
can't
just
say:
hey
we're,
opening
up
this
spot
for
family
practice.
K
You
come
and
serve
your
three
years
and
oh
by
the
way
we
want
you
to
go.
You
know
75
miles
away
from
knoxville
to
a
rural
area.
They're
married,
they
have
children.
What
what
are
they
going
to?
I
mean
they
can't
just
go
out
there
and
start
a
practice.
They've
got
to
I'm,
not
that
what
is
the
incentive
we
get
them
there.
We
get
them
in
residency,
but
we
have
no.
K
We
have
nothing
to
bank
that
they're
going
to
go
into
the
rural
area
or
they
may
go
and
they
may
a
lot
of
times.
They
do
a
year
of
residency
and
they
decide
they
want
to
do
something
else
or
they
they
want
to
get
into
something
else
and
switch
over
whatever.
So
that's
what
I'm
I'm
just
wondering,
what
is
it
we
can
offer
them
that
makes
them
want
to
do
that
and.
B
So
let
me
because
I
think
that
is
the
dilemma.
We
face
getting
physicians,
dentists,
pharmacists,
all
our
healthcare
providers
into
the
rural
counties.
So
when
you
look
at
our
rural
counties
today-
and
you
say
we
are
underserved,
and
then
you
say
it's
going
to
get
worse
because
you
look
at
the
median
age
of
our
physicians
and
our
dentists
and
our
pharmacists
in
those
rural
counties.
B
So
our
first
problem
is:
we
need
to
replace
those
physicians
and
provide
partners
for
those
68,
69
and
71
year
old,
primary
care
physicians.
So
where
are
they
going
to
go?
Well,
I
would
suggest
that
where
we
think
they
should
go
is
into
an
established
practice
initially
to
work
side
by
side
with
that
72
year
old
physician
who
should
retire
but
can't
who
has
an
established
practice
and
ideally
has
referral
networks
to
back
up
specialists.
So
they
can
provide
that
outstanding
level
of
care.
B
So
I
believe
that,
except
in
those
counties
where
there
are
no
dentists,
where
we
really
need
something
else,
we
need
to
provide
partners
for
the
existing
physicians,
dentists
and
pharmacists
so
that
we
can
grow
those.
So
I
believe
we
do
have
a
place
for
people
to
go.
They
can
go
to
established
practices
of
our
aging
rural
physicians
who,
if
we
don't
replace
them,
we're
going
to
have
counties
with
no
physicians,
and
so
they
have
a
practice
to
walk
into
and
take
over,
and
it's
not
a
terrible
case
mix
in
terms
of
finance.
B
But
we've
learned
one
thing
also
in
medical
school,
so
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
selection
bias.
How
do
you
select
that
physicians?
Well,
when
you
select
out
a
primary
care
physician,
you
select
out
a
certain
thought
process
and
a
certain
mindset
right.
Someone
who
wants
to
be
a
family
physician
has
a
desire
to
take
care
of
people
have
face-to-face
interactions.
B
That's
not
the
mindset
of
a
budding
neurosurgeon
so
that
when
we
select
medical
students
at
the
university
of
tennessee,
we
look
specifically
at
rural
young
men
and
women,
because
here's
what
we
know
if
you
come
from
dyersburg
and
we
get
you
in
medical
school,
we
have
a
reasonable
chance
of
getting
you
back
rural
because
you
value
hunting.
You
value
bass,
fishing,
you
value,
hiking,
you
value
all
those
things
you
get
in
the
rural
area.
B
K
So,
just
taking
on
what
you
just
said,
so
so
I
understand
when
you
interview
these
students
to
come
to
med
school
and
they
graduate
from
med
school
and
all
I
mean
because
you're
looking
for
different
areas,
different,
you
know,
there's
there's
all
these
things
you're
looking
for
is
not
always
the
person
that
has
the
highest
gpa
that
gets
into
med
school
you.
K
You
really
want
a
real,
well-rounded
person,
so
I
can
see
when
you
pick
them
from
med
school,
but
so
if
there
was
a
way
in
residency,
I
mean
kind
of
once
they
graduate
from
med
school
and
they're
out.
You
know
doing
their
matches
and
all
for
residency.
They
don't.
If
you
had
a
way
of
saying.
Okay,
we're
only
going
to
feel
these
spots
of
residency
with
with
students
that
we
know
want
to
go
back
into
the
rural
area,
kind
of
right
off
the
bat
that
you're
interviewing
those.
B
We're
going
to
play
the
odds.
What
we
do
is
we,
because,
because
tennessee
is
a
is
a
remarkably
free
state,
we
play
the
odds.
So
what
we
know
is
if
we
take
a
young
man
or
young
woman
from
brentwood,
the
chances
of
them
going
to
dyersburg
are
like
one
in
a
million
okay.
B
If
you
take
a
young
man
or
young
woman
from
humboldt
okay,
that
doesn't
mean
they're
not
going
to
end
up
in
new
york
city
because
they
might,
but
statistically
they
grew
up
in
an
area
and
they're
comfortable
in
that
area
and
they're
not
going
to
be
looking.
We
hope
for
fine,
french
restaurants.
Instead,
they
want
100
acres,
they
want
to
be
a
gentleman
or
a
gentlewoman
farmer,
other
things
are
important
to
them,
and
so
what
we
do
every
step
of
the
way
is
we
incent
people
to
do
what
we
want
them
to
do?
B
In
other
words,
if
we
don't
do
this,
we
won't
have
them
to
get
them,
but,
as
you
eloquently
pointed
out,
we
can
put
them
in
the
family
medicine
president
with
the
ut
family,
family
medicine
program
at
knoxville,
an
outstanding
program,
and
they
might
say
you
know
I'm
going
to
practice
in
new
jersey
but
they're
hours
to
get
during
those
three
years
and
if
we
don't
get
them
shame
on
us.
So
I
think
what
this
does
is.
B
This
gives
us
that
opportunity
to
get
those
young
men
and
women
into
the
tennessee
counties
we
want
them
in
and
because
of
the
decisions
this
body
is
made.
It's
not
a
tremendous
financial
disincentive
for
physicians,
it
is
for
dentists,
but
it's
not
a
tremendous
financial
disincentive
for
physicians
to
go
to
the
rural
areas.
B
So
I
think
that
we've
got
to
get
the
right
people
in
the
right
place
and
then
incent
them
to
do
what
we
need
them
to
do
as
a
state,
and
you
got
to
start
by
having
you've
got
to
start
with
a
ticket
to
play.
This
gives
us
a
ticket
to
play
and
shame
on
us.
If
we
don't
get
these
young
men
and
women
incented
to
go
where
we
want
them
to
go.
K
This
bill
up-
I
guess-
and
one
thing
I
are:
we
working
on
the
residence
now
in
family
practice
and
my
husband's
internal
medicine
he's
not
in
the
family
practice
teaching
it's
in
the
internal
medicine
part
but
are
are
we
doing
any
incentives
right
now
to
get
those
that
are
in
residency.
B
B
Yeah
and
those
are
the
spots
in
addition
to
partnering
with
existing
physicians,
which
the
ut
medical
center
incense,
because
they
want
those
referrals,
so
they
want
to
send
their
physicians
to
those
physicians
who
refer
to
them.
So
we
have
those
incentives
in
place.
Are
they
formalized?
No,
should
they
be
maybe,
but
right
now
those
incentives
come
from
the
private
sector,
not
from
the
state
or
the
federal
government,
but
but
they're
good
private
incentives,
and
we
need
to
do
better
than
we're
doing
but
step
one
is
get
the
pipeline.
C
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
chancellor,
great
to
see
you
again.
It's
good
catching
up
with
you
last
week,
I'm
going
to
just
kind
of
make
a
statement
here
and
you
can
just
kind
of
give
me
a
yes
or
no.
If
that's
okay,
if
if
we
pass
this,
is
it
not
the
case
that
we
would
retain
more
of
our
medical
students
to
have
residency
inside
the
state
of
tennessee,
as
opposed
to
some
of
them
going
to
another
state.
B
We
know
that
right
now,
if
you
look
at
tennessee's
public
and
private
medical
schools-
and
you
look
at
our
first
year,
medical
students,
roughly
26
of
them,
won't
have
a
residency
spot
in
tennessee,
so
by
default,
they're
leaving
by
default
they're,
leaving
it's
probably
even
worse
than
that,
because
there
are
outstanding
international
medical
graduates
we
continue
to
take.
So
if
we
don't
expand,
residencies
we're
going
to
be
exporting
large
numbers
of
physicians
to
other
states,
and
so
the
answer
to
that
is
a
simple
absolute
loud.
M
Thank
you
so
much.
I
just
want
to
say
I'm
completely
supportive
of
this.
I
think
it
benefits
the
overwhelm
well-being
of
all
tennesseans
and
thank
you
for
being
here.
I
know
the
trek
on
I-40
is
tough,
sometimes,
and
thank
you
again
sponsor
for
bringing
us.
D
C
A
You,
mr
chairman,
and
I
I'm
asking
a
question
along
the
lines
of
understanding
the
goal
from
what
I
send
our
last
presenter
was
saying
that
if
we
create
more
opportunities
for
our
tennesseans
to
have
residencies
in
tennessee,
we
have
a
greater
chance
of
retaining
them
after
they
finish
their
residency.
R
R
For
25
years,
so
as
our
population
increases
and
our
needs
for
health
care
increase,
the
the
number
of
residencies
established
by
cms
is
flat,
it's
not
being
funded
through
the
hospitals
anymore.
So
if
we,
if
you
believe
that
our
state
needs
more
doctors
to
replace
the
aging
workforce
in
health
care,
this
is
a
way
to
do
it.
Now,
then,
as
you
look
at
this
and
you
see
where
these
residencies,
what
the
subject
matter
these
residencies
will
be
offered
in,
then
that
will
increase
the
pool
of
those.
R
R
They
don't
need
a
neurosurgeon.
They
need
a
family
practice
physician,
that's
what
this
bill
contemplates,
providing
we're
going
to
increase
the
pool,
so
the
rising
tide
raises
all
boats.
If
we're
going
to
create
a
larger
number
of
residents
and
doctor
family
physician
doctors,
they're
going
to
there
will
be
more
available
to
serve
not
just
rural
tennessee
but
anywhere
in
tennessee.
This
is
a
workforce
development
program
for
physicians.
A
You
follow
up
yeah,
that's
that's
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
say
what
you
alluded
to
the
fact.
We
must
create
these
positions
now.
I
know
that,
like
mahari
has
a
program
with
mtsu
to
create
a
pipeline
of
persons
going
to
rural
areas,
but
we
have
to
also
create
those
residencies
for
them
after
they
graduate
correct.
E
E
If
that's
kind
of
where
this
this
is
rolling
from-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
sponsor
for
bringing
this
as
we've
talked
today,
we've
brought
up
some
more
ideas,
but
this
is
a
great
first
step,
but
I
would
urge
us
to
continue
the
discussion
to
help
incentivize
the
next
step
of
some
of
the
concerns
we've
brought,
but
thank
each
of
you
for
this
thought
process
and
thank
you
for
bringing
it.
Mr
sponsor.
P
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
like
the
intent
I'm
going
to
support
your
bill.
I
I
think
I
think
the
disconnect
that's
happening
in
committee
is
in
the
language.
It
says
to
provide,
make
sure
I've
got
this
in
medically
underserved
areas
and
into
distressed
rural
counties,
but
in
theory
all
of
these
residencies
say
they
all
in
a
hypothetical
graduate.
At
the
same
time,
they
could
all
take
positions,
that's
within
10
miles
of
the
cities
technically,
and
if
they
did
that,
then
it
wouldn't
serve
any
of
the
areas.
P
That's
actually
in
the
language
of
the
bill.
I
guess
that's!
That's
the
disconnect
that
I'm
kind
of
having
with
it
is
is
that
it
doesn't
actually
do
the
job
of
pushing
these.
You
know
these
physicians
into
the
areas
it's
making
them
available,
but
in
theory
they
could
none
of
them
go.
Potentially,
if
I'm
understanding
the
language
correctly,
you
recognize.
R
R
R
R
Looking
at
plastics
they're,
looking
at
orthopedics
they're,
looking
at
cardiovascular
they're,
looking
at
these
high-end
high-paying
physician
slots
that
are
good
for
everybody,
these
are
on
the
lower
end
of
the
wage
scale,
but
they're
more
necessary
they're
necessary
to
serve
a
broader
array
of
people.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
There
was
something
mentioned
a
minute
ago
with
our
guest
about
kind
of
weeding
out
people
by
recruiting
from
the
rural
areas
or
not
weeding
out,
but
but
trying
to
recruit
focus
on
recruiting
from
the
rural
areas.
D
I
like
the
idea
of
the
bill
language
like
that,
gets
my
mind.
Thinking
about
discrimination
claims
down
the
road
if
we
exclude
otherwise
worthy
applicants
from
our
rural
areas,
I'm
sorry
from
our
urban
areas
in
favor
of
folks
out
in
our
rural
areas.
R
I
think
what
dr
schwab
alluded
to
was
recruitment
practices
that
could
lead
to
fulfillment
of
needs
in
those
areas.
I
don't
think
that
he's
talking
about
changing
the
and
determining
who
the
worthy
candidates
are
and
and
one
candidate
being
deemed
more
worthy
than
the
other,
but
what
you're
looking
for
is
different
skill
sets
to
fill
different
types
of
residencies.
It's
a
match.
Residencies
are
always
a
match
and
so
who's
the
best
candidate,
because
not
every
medical
school
student
gets
a
match.
R
So
if
this
is
a
program
geared
toward,
if
ut
has
identified
the
fact
that
they're
looking
for
more
family
physicians
who
are
ready
to
work
in
a
rural
area,
then
that
would
be
the
type
person
they'd
be
looking
for
the
match
for
that
residency.
Not
everybody
is
going
to
get
that
that
same
match.
So
I
don't.
I
understand
your
concerns
about
discrimination,
but
this
matching
process
is
a
selection
in
and
of
itself.
G
I
just
don't
see
the
incentive
to
get
them
to
go
to
the
rural
communities,
because
if
we
already
have
a
shortage
of
doctors
and
that
that
the
doctor's
workforce
is
getting
older
and
older
and
retiring
and
a
doctor
goes
to
ut
to
medical
school,
we're
gonna
hope
that
they
drive
by
opportunities
to
make
money
to
go
to
a
rural
community.
I
all
I'm
saying
is
the
premise
of
the
bill.
G
G
Now
they
have
to
make
a
decision
once
they're
established
as
the
only
doctor
there
do.
I
move
and
go
back
to
knoxville,
or
do
I
just
continue
to
grow
my
business?
That's
all
I'm
saying
is
the
premise
of
the
bill
is
to
drive
doctors
to
rural
communities.
I
don't
see
the
incentive
in
the
bill.
I
would
love
to
see
an
incentive
in
the
bill.
R
R
C
Paraphrasing
what
you're
saying
is
you
do
nothing?
You
get
nothing
if
you
try
something
you
get
something
that
may
work:
okay,
members,
that
was
all
the
ones
I
have
on
the
calendar,
any
further
discussion.
C
C
S
You
chairman
and
members,
this
bill
is
about
dealing
with
the
best
practices
dealing
with
response
to
intervention
and
instruction,
and
the
framework
for
this
is
already
in
place.
It's
been
in
place
since
2014
and
it's
mandatory
for
k
through
12
schools,
but
I'm
going
to
use
the
term.
S
The
problem
is
that
it's
one
teacher
per
2,
750
students
and
this
program
is
fully
implemented
at
this
time
with
the
number
of
teachers
that
we
have,
but
if
what
was
identified
in
the
bep
review
committee
is
that
this
component
is
a
priority
as
far
as
funding
is
concerned,
and
the
review
committee
recommended
funding
for
teachers
now.
S
This
was
also
a
recommendation
by
the
bet
review
committee.
This
helps
students
with
learning
disabilities
and
I
I
imagine
one
of
the
first
things
we're
going
to
have
on
our
mind
where
we
already
have
went
through
special
session
and
what
we're
doing
for
students
I
apologize.
Mr
chairman,
I
didn't
ask
you
if
I
could
do
this
from
the
seat.
S
Okay,
this
bill
does
not
overlap
anything
we
did
in
special
session.
What
it
does
is
affect
does
not
affect
what
we
did,
and
it
would
allow
more
help
for
our
most
needy
students,
and
it
coincides
more
so
than
anything
else
with
what
we're
doing
within
the
school
system.
S
C
C
This
will
go
forward
as
far
as
money
you're
still
going
the
black
hole
of
finance,
because
I
agree
with
what
you're
doing
we
need
we
need.
We
need
to
fund
more
of
rti
teachers,
that's
kind
of
been
an
unfunded
mandate
that
we've
done
on
the
state,
but
for
the
next
two
years,
districts
do
have
about
2.3
billion
of
this
s
or
3
money
that
they
can
use
for
this.
C
Yes,
but
just
want
to
point
out
just
for
the
will
of
the
committee
moving
forward,
but
what
you're
we
need
if
whether
this
bill
moves
on
through
finance
or
not,
we
need
to
address
rti.
C
C
S
C
T
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee.
Our
legislature
and
passed
a
release
time
bill
in
2017
and
classes
began
in
the
state
of
tennessee
in
2018.
house.
Bill
962
increases
from
one-half
credit
to
one
credit.
The
number
of
credits
that
may
be
awarded
to
a
student
for
work
completed
in
a
release
time
course,
under
a
policy
adopted
by
the
local
by
the
lea,
currently
release
time.
Courses
are
limited
one
class
period
per
day
five
days
a
week.
It's
an
elective
credit,
but
students
are
encountering
problems
finding
other
half-credit
courses
which
would
count
toward
their
graduation.
D
T
You
recognize,
sir
yeah.
Thank
you.
As
far
as
I
know,
I'm
not
to
be
honest
with
you,
I'm
not
really
sure.
I
just
know
that
since
we
have
passed
this
and
and
during
that
time,
during
that
four
year
period,
since
it's
been
inception,
we
were
able
to
give
it
a
half
a
credit
and
that
was
approved
by
the
local
lease
and
by
the
state
of
tennessee
under
the
release
time
bill.
So
we
were
just
increasing
that
to
one
full
credit.
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
aware
of
any
others.
D
Yeah
well,
thank
you
for
the
answer
and
I
understand
we
got
that
half
credit
and
now
you're
trying
to
double
it
and
two
years
later,
are
we
going
to
be
in
this
position
in
two
years
from
now,
where
we're
trying
to
double
it
again
I
mean,
what's
the
what
where's
the
limit
on
that.
C
T
T
It's
just
that
students
are
having
problems,
they're
encountering
problems,
getting
another
half
credit,
there's,
not
many
half
credit
courses,
so
they
end
up
liking
towards
graduation
if
they
need
another
full
credit
course
and
they've
got
a
half
credit
course
if
they
needed
18
they're
sitting
there
with
17
and
a
half,
because
it's
only
a
half
credit
course,
so
we're
just
trying
to
get
one
full
credit
toward
graduation
all
right.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
H
One
real
quick
follow-up
so
going
from
a
half
credit
to
a
full
credit
you're,
not
saying
that
you're
increasing
their
time
away.
Is
that
accurate,
so
we're
not
saying
that
we're
taking
them
away
from
the
classroom
for
more
time,
we're
just
saying
for
the
time
that
they
are
away?
We
are
giving
them
a
full
credit
rather
than
the
half
credit.
So
it
will
add
correctly.
Is
that
accurate.
T
C
T
C
Chairman
parents,
let
me
ask
the
question:
I'm
trying
been
trying
to
make
sure
I
understand
the
bill.
I
understand
exactly
because
we
went
through
this
a
couple
years
ago
and
last
year
trying
to
get
this
worked
out
for
you,
because
right
what
you're
trying
to
do
for
the
community
is
a
good
thing,
but
this
is
statewide
application
right,
any
other,
not
just
your
district.
T
Right,
if,
if
another
organization,
if
they
they
have
to
create
a
501c3
and
then
it
has
to
go
in
front
of
the
local
in
front
of
the
lea
and
be
approved
and
the
curriculum
has
to
be
approved,
another
county
could
do
this.
Yes,
but
it's
not
this
pertaining
to
one
particular
area.
So.
C
T
Currently,
they're
they're
away
from
school
one
hour
a
day,
five
days
a
week.
So
that's
what
they're
getting
and
right
now
they're
just
getting
a
half
credit
for
that
five
hours
per
week.
So
we
were
just
wanting
to
award
them
one
full
credit
right.
C
So,
if
that
hour,
that
they're
away
from
school
is
that
including
transportation
time,
my
concern
is:
other
districts
pick
this
up
and
there's
a
15-minute
bus
ride
or
a
30-minute
bus
ride,
you're
out
of
school
two
hours
and
our
our
our
superintendents
would
you
know,
kill
us
over
that
right
so
and
it,
and
am
I
correct
in
the
law
that
we
passed
before
that
if
a
parent
comes
to
a
district
and
says
I
want
this
for
my
child
that
they
have
to
do
this.
T
C
The
only
eight
does
have
to
approve,
but
there
is
there
is
this
hour
out
of
school
transportation.
That's
that's
the
thing
that
that's
a
catch
for
me.
Right
now
make
sure
we
don't
do
something,
there's
a
lot
of
good
in
the
world,
what
you're
trying
to
do,
but
then
across
the
state
there
are
always
those
things
that
get
us
in
trouble.
Chairman
haston
thank.
P
You
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
just
trying
to
get
some
clarity.
I
think
in
subcommittee
this
this
discussion
about
time
came
up
and-
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
this
correct.
I
think
that
in
subcommittee
you
did
say
that
there
was
going
to
be
increased
time
and
it
was
an
hour
a
day
five
days
a
week,
but
that
may
have
been
just
a
misunderstanding.
Is
it
currently
an
hour
a
day
five
days
a
week
or
is
that?
Is
it
going
to
increase
to
an
hour
a
day
five
days
a
week.
T
A
T
Roughly
currently
there
they
have,
they
started
out
with
one
class
and
now
they've
grown
to
three
classes
and
15
to
25
per
day.
So
you're,
looking
at
anywhere
from
depending
on
the
size
of
the
class
anywhere
from
55
to
70
or
so
students
per
day.
A
Follow
up,
okay,
thank
you,
and
these
students
are
close
to
graduating
or
they're.
Just
starting
out.
You
recognize.
T
Yeah
there
there's
no
particular
class
or
a
freshman
sophomore,
there's
no
particular
class
that
they
have
to
be
in
so
they
can
take
it
anytime
during
their
high
school
years.
So
any
any
year.
A
A
T
Okay,
you
recognize
right
now
it
depends
on
how
many
classes
are
offered.
I
think
they
offering
they're
trying
to
offer
three
different
classes
now,
so
you
could,
they
could
take
it
two
different
times,
but
if
they
just
take
one
course
per
school
for
their
high
school
graduation,
so
there's
only
going
to
get
one
half
credit
and
that's
what
most
people
take.
They
only
take
one
course.
A
T
A
Okay,
so
so
they
could
take
a
I'm
sorry.
I
thought
that
up
there,
you
recognized
so
in
theory
they
could
take
the
majority
of
the
electives
or
at
least
through
this
process,
correct
yeah,
a
good
number.
T
C
T
Yes,
the
lea
has
the
final
authority:
they
have
to
apply
to
the
lea
the
organization,
the
501c3,
and
they
would
have
to
apply
to
the
lea
and
the
lea
would
have
to
approve
it.
They
also
have
to
take
a
syllabus
with
with
all
the
curriculum
of
the
classes
that
they're
going
to
be
offered
to,
and
they
have
to
approve
those
also,
okay,.
C
T
D
C
Don't
have
to
have
a
roll
call
vote
to
be
fair
to
to
the
representative
sure,
madam
clerk,
would
you
call
a
roll
on
this.
H
D
H
L
B
C
C
Right,
okay,
members,
we
have
two
more.
We
can
knock
out
house
bill,
not
590,
representative
picky,
mr
motion,
you've
got
a
motion
and
a
second
you've
got
a
couple
amendments
which
one
are
we
going
by.
Mr.
G
Chairman,
if
I
could,
if
I
can
address
the
committee,
real
quick
I'll,
solve
a
problem
here
house
bill
590
is
the
house's
bep
whole
harms.
We
worked
on
that.
We
talked
about
in
committee,
mr
chairman.
I
want
to
roll
this
one
week
because
we
have
house
bill
777
coming
to
the
full
committee
next
week,
that
is
the
governor's
hold
harmless.
If
we
move
the
governor's
bill
forward
house
bill,
590
will
just
be
taking
off
notice
and
we'll
move
forward.
C
G
C
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
very
quickly.
This
is
the
part
two
of
the
discipline
act
that
we
just
passed.
What
this
does
is
provide
a
two-year
mental
health
training
program
for
all
all
lea
personnel.
It
is
a
opt-in
program
by
the
locals.
They
can
choose
to
do
this.
There
is
no
cost
to
the
locals.
It
will
be
hopefully
funded.
G
We're
going
to
work
on
on
a
funding
letter
from
the
governor's
people
in
education
to
use
cares,
act,
funding
that
will
provide
necessary
training
so
that
teachers
can
identify
students
that
are
struggling
with
their
mental
or
behavior
health.
It
does
not.
It
does
not
train
the
teachers
to
treat
them,
it
trains
them
to
identify
them
and
get
them
referred
to
the
proper
intervention.
G
C
Discussion
on
the
bill
we've
had
the
question
called:
is
there
objection
to
that
question?
May
I
ask
one
question
representative
keem
before
you
call
the
question
was
this?
Is
this
one
time
money.
C
The
okay
thank
you,
representative,
questionman,
called
that
objection.
We're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
1304,
all
those
in
favor
moving
into
finance
ways
and
means,
and
it
can't
be
saying
aye
opposed
yeah.
I
always
have
it.