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House Higher Education Instruction Subcommittee - March 16, 2021 - House Hearing Room 3
A
Good
afternoon
everybody,
I'm
gonna
call
the
order
to
march
16
2021
subcommittee
on
education
instruction
order.
Madam
secretary,
please
take
the
role.
A
A
Thank
you,
everybody
does
anybody
have
any
personal
orders
before
we
get
into
the
calendar
upon
seeing
none
if
you
will
grab
your
calendars
I'll,
make
all
the
announcements
and
then
we'll
we'll
get
to
the
bills
house
bill
1513
has
been
taken
off
notice
by
representative
cochran
house
bill.
1535
has
been
rolled
one
week
by
chairman
weaver
house
bill
745
has
been
rolled
one
week
by
chairman,
hasten
house
bill
472.
A
Is
that
is
it
our
role
because
he's
been
held
out
it'll,
be
a
committee
role
right,
okay,
house,
bill
472
by
chairman
white
and
house
bill
755
by
chairman
wyatt
are
both
ruled
one
week
because
he
is
at
home
that'll,
be
a
committee
role,
not
his
okay,
but
that
being
said,
is
there
any
objections
to
that?
A
A
A
C
Ahead,
mr
thompson,
thank
you
so
much
you
may
bill
today
regards
apprenticeships.
C
You
know,
apprenticeships
are
work
based,
learning
programs
in
which
industrial
or
industry,
professionals
and
educational
institutions
partner
on
a
line
on
the
job
training,
with
curriculum
and
instruction
apprenticeship
programs
are
unique
in
that
they
are
work-based
learning,
because
the
impression
the
apprentice
is
paid
and,
most
recently
about
a
year
a
little
bit
over
a
year
ago,
now
the
state
of
tennessee
unveiled
apprenticeship
tn.
C
The
initiative
created
the
office
apprenticeship
of
apprenticeship
with
three
regional
directors
to
serve
the
state
and
these
apprenticeship
experts
work
directly
with
employers,
communities,
associations
and
organizations
to
develop
and
implement
new
programs.
Now
what
this
bill
does.
It's
essentially
is
a
complements
error
of
this.
C
The
bill
is
passed
by
the
senate
with
no
opposition,
and
the
goal
of
the
of
the
bill
is
to
expand
recent
efforts
of
apprenticeship
opportunities
for
students.
A
Committee
members
you've
heard
the
presentation
on
the
bill
representative,
griffey.
D
D
Not
everybody
wants
or
needs
to
go
to
college
necessarily
there's
huge
opportunities
in
america
for
folks
that
want
to
learn
a
trade
and
get
out
there
and
do
that
and
some
of
the
best
ways
to
learn
things
to
learn
from
experienced
craftsman.
Who
does
that,
and
so
I
applaud
your
efforts
to
try
to
get
apprenticeships
going.
So
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
E
Again,
I
would
like
to
echo
what
representative
griffey
said
that
my
wife
would
probably
agree
too,
because
she
asked
me
to
do
so
much
stuff
around
the
house
and
I
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
learn
a
lot
of
stuff
with
my
hands,
and
so
I
wish
I
would
have
had
an
opportunity
to
learn
more
and
how
to
work
with
my
hands
when
I
was
in
high
school.
So
thank
you
again
very
great
bill.
F
That
briefly,
a
little
promotion,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and,
and
and
thank
you
again
for
for
bringing
us
this
piece
of
legislation.
So
my
my
question
is:
was
there
a
problem
or
issue
with
respect
to
with
the
workforce
development
team,
communicating
with
all
schools,
which
is
why
now
you
kind
of
want
a
single
point
contact?
Is
that
what
the
the
the
core
of
this
was
there
a
gap
that
this
does?
This
piece
of
legislation
is
feeling.
C
I'm
to
my
understanding
the
you
know:
they
simply
have
not
there.
That
was
not
part
of
their
their
mission.
At
this
point.
G
Reagan,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
perhaps
I
can
help
the
sponsor
out
with
that.
We
members
of
this
committee
that
are
new
may
not
be
aware
of
the
fact
that
we
did
the
middle
college
program
which
allowed
students
in
high
school
to
graduate
from
high
school
with
a
associate's
degree.
At
the
same
time,
they
got
their
high
school
diploma.
We
then
expanded
that
to
to
include
the
trades,
tcats
and
and
so
forth.
As
far
as
programs
are
concerned,
there
we've
had
to
add
several
things
to
it.
There's
a
bill,
I
think
that's
already
passed.
G
It
may
not
be
completely
through
yet
that
adds
workers
comp
protection
for
these
apprentices
out
of
high
school
and
this
mechanism
that
this
sponsor
has
proposed
is
nothing
more
than
continuing
to
expand
this
apprenticeship
approach
so
that
we
have
every
high
school,
including
those
in
rural
areas.
That
may
not
see
the
need
right
away,
but
nonetheless
they
have
a
contact
point
so
that
someone
can
reach
out
and
help
them.
So
I
applaud
the
sponsor
for
bringing
this.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you.
A
Members,
any
other
comments,
questions
being
called
in
the
objection
to
the
question.
Seeing
none
all
in
favor
of
sending
house
bill,
842
to
full
committee,
say
aye
opposed
no
eyes
have
it
you're
off
the
full
committee.
Mr
tom.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
chair
and
committee.
Next
up
chill
lady
weaver
house
bill
1537.
H
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you,
members
truly.
A
A
number
members:
it's
four
zero.
Five
five
is
the
drafting
code.
We
have
a
first
and
the
second,
let's
put
this
on
the
bill,
any
objection
to
that
bond,
seeing
none
all
favor
all
in
favor,
of
adding
drafting
code,
four
zero.
Five
five
to
the
bill
say:
aye
aye
opposed
amendments
on
the
bill.
Charlie
weaver
give
us
the
explanation.
Please
thank.
H
You
so
much.
I
feel
that
I
need
to
give
a
little
history
to
why
we
are
here
concerning
our
textbook
commission
to
some
of
the
members
who
have
not
been
here
for
a
while,
but
we
back
into
public
awareness.
H
Our
input
on
textbook
commission
has
been
a
factor
since
2013
and
I
believe
I
may
be
wrong
in
the
year,
but
I
think
it
was
like
2015
that
the
education
committee
we
came
together
and
decided.
We
need
a
set
of
eyeballs
and
a
commission
that
would
be
tasked
to
watching
over
what
content
gets
before
our
children,
and
so
he
wanted
a
separate
entity,
an
independent
commission,
to
do
that
job.
H
And
so
we
put
the
committee,
the
general
assembly
put
together
this
commission,
and
so
I
guess
no
news
is
good
news.
We
would
we
are
walking
on
along
and
we're
just
thinking
the
commission
is
doing
well
and
we
find
out
that
the
commission
is
actually
very
impaired.
It's
very
it's
crippled,
so
we've
been
working
on
getting
that
re-fortified
last
year.
If
you
remember,
we
passed
legislation
that
would
make
the
commission
maintain
independence
from
the
department
of
education.
H
I
think
that's
the
right
number
it's
in
there
somewhere,
you
can
find
it.
The
point
is
what
this
bill
seeks
to
do
is
to
give
our
commission
more
muscle
to
give
them
more
into
to
give
them
the
independence.
They
need
to
do
the
task
that
we,
the
education
committee,
has
asked
them
to
do.
That's
exactly
what
this
bill
will
do.
It
will
strengthen
the
statue
I
just
mentioned.
H
H
I
believe
wholeheartedly
that
if
our
children
have
quality
content
before
them,
they
will
excel
and
we
will
be
number
one
in
our
literacy
program.
It
has
to
do
with
that.
Now.
We've
dumped
gazillions
of
millions
of
dollars,
10
billion
dollars
into
education.
Since
I
have
been
here
and
served
on
the
education
committee-
and
I
tell
you
it's
about
the
content.
H
H
The
what
we
what
this
bill
seeks
to
do
in
the
spirit
of
this
bill
is
to
give
them
the
muscle
they
need
to
do
their
job
so
that
we
can
ask
them
as
a
committee
on
the
textbooks
that
are
reading.
You
know
you
know
what
what's
your
spiel?
What's
your
idea,
what
what
do
you?
What
can
you
bring
to
us?
So
that's
what
the
bill
does
again.
H
This
amendment
would
return
the
textbook
reviews
to
a
fair
and
independent
process
without
interference
of
any
agency
or
department,
and
it
would
get
back
to
the
original
intent
of
why
the
commission
was
why
why
they
came
to
be
to
begin
with
and
that's
what
the
bill
does,
and
so
there
you
go.
D
D
Our
children
and
teachers
are
not
the
problem
with
the
state
of
our
education,
in
my
opinion
that
we
have
today
part
of
the
problem,
in
my
opinion,
regarding
education,
is
that
we've
drifted
apart
from
focusing
on
educating
our
children
and
have
engaged
in
social
engineering,
social
policies
and
I'm
going
to
firmly
oppose
that
effort
by
anybody
and
everybody
and
get
back
to
letting
our
kids
learn,
how
to
learn
and
supporting
our
teachers
and
our
superintendents
and
our
school
district.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
this
legislation
I'm
fully
supportive.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
I
There
are
two
very
minor
logistical
things
that
we
had
submitted
to
the
sponsor,
and
I
know
this
this
amendment
sort
of
came
late,
that
I
would
I
would
sort
of
qualify
as
sort
of
logistical,
but
I
think
it
would
improve
the
bill
sort
of
further
as
it
continues
to
move
through
the
process,
the
first
of
which
is
when
it
talks
in
subsection
g
about
about
the
the
rubric
and
not
sort
of
unduly
influencing.
I
So
the
role
of
the
department
historically
here
has
been
given
that
the
commission
does
not
have.
Staff
has
been
to
cast
a
very
wide
net
of
tennessee
educators
resident
experts,
who
the
commission
can
then
select
from
to
serve
on
that
review
advisory
panel.
The
way
this
language
is
currently
is
currently
written.
I
think
it
would
prevent
that
from
happening,
which
would
create
a
logistical
challenge
for
the
commission
again
if
the
intent
is
to
make
sure
the
department
does
not
influence
who
they
choose.
I
That,
I
think,
is
what
we
sort
of
want
to
see
accomplished
here
and
we're
fine
with
that.
But
that's
a
very
large
group
of
folks
that
are
presented
for
the
commission
to
sort
of
choose
from,
and
I
do
think
that's
an
important
role
for
the
commission
to
have
the
department,
given
our
contacts
with
teachers,
educators,
etc.
To
essentially
give
them
a
pool,
get
out
of
the
way
and
then
sort
of
let
them
choose
from
that
pool.
I
So
very
minor
sort
of
logistical
things
that
we
would
sort
of
offer
for
consideration
to
the
sponsor
in
the
committee
and
certainly
happy
to
continue
to
work.
If
this
passes
out
today
and
getting
those
addressed
ahead
of
the
full
committee,
but
did
just
want
to
bring
those
to
the
committee
members
attention.
A
A
You
members,
we
are
back
on
house
bill
1537,
as
amended.
You've
heard
the
testimony.
Are
there
any
ques
any
questions
for
the
bill
sponsor.
A
A
Members.
That
concludes
our
calendar.
For
today.
Thank
you
for
your
service
to
tennessee.
We
will
look
to
see
you
next
week.
Do
not
forget.
Last
calendar
is
march.
30Th
last
calendar
is
march
30th
we're
adjourned.