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Description
House K-12 Subcommittee - February 1, 2022 - House Hearing Room 2
C
A
A
D
Thank
you,
chairman
hasten.
This
is
a
bill
that
would
change
the
grading
scale
in
tennessee
for
grades
9
through
12
to
a
10
point
grading
scale,
so
an
a
would
be
90
to
100
b
would
be
80
to
90
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
My
motivation
for
this
bill
is
so
that
we
don't
disadvantage
our
tennessee
students
in
two
ways.
D
The
current
grading
scale,
which
is
more
stringent
93
to
100,
is
an
a
85
to
93,
is
a
b
and
so
on,
and
so
forth
puts
our
students
at
a
disadvantage
when
they're
applying
to
colleges
and
universities
across
the
country
and
competing
against
students
from
other
states
that
have
a
more
lenient
grading
scale
used
for
their
gpa
when
our
students
are
applying
to
harvard
or
duke
if
they
have
a
92
in
a
class.
That's
a
b,
if
you're
in
kentucky,
and
you
have
a
92
in
a
class.
That's
an
a
so.
D
My
first
concern
is
that
we're
disadvantaging
our
tennessee
students
when
they
applied
of
to
colleges
and
universities
out
of
high
school.
My
second
concern
is
very
similar,
and
that
is
that
we're
disadvantaging
our
tennessee
students
when
they
apply
to
competitive
scholarships
across
the
country,
there's
all
kinds
of
scholarship
money.
That's
available.
Some
come
from
non-profit
organizations,
some
from
come
from
corporations.
D
There's
a
coca-cola
scholarship
gpa
is
going
to
influence,
who
gets
those
scholarships
as
well,
and
so,
if
our
tennessee
students
are
on
a
more
stringent
grading
scale
than
students
from
most,
if
not
all
other
states,
then
it's
going
to
disadvantage
them
in
that
competitive
process
as
well.
So
this
is
a
bill
that
would
change
the
grading
scale
for
high
school
students.
Grades
9
through
12
to
a
10
point
scale.
D
Now,
having
said
that,
an
inadvertent
effect
of
that
is,
if
grades
come
up
in
tennessee
a
little
bit,
then
that
means
there
may
be
a
few
tennessee
students
who
had
not
been
eligible
for
some
of
our
state
lottery,
scholarships
that
become
available,
and
because
of
that
there
is
a
fiscal
note
on
this
bill.
It's
not
my
intent
to
award
more
hope,
scholarship
money,
it's
just
sort
of
the
result
of
moving
a
92
from
a
b
to
an
a
my
intent.
E
D
A
A
Okay,
you've
heard
the
explanation
of
the
amendment.
Does
anybody
have
any
objection
to
voting
on
adopting
this
amendment,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
I
was
opposed
to
say
no.
We
are
back
on
the
bill
as
amended.
Thank
you,
chairman
reagan,
for
that
does
anybody
else
have
any
questions
now
that
we're
back
on
the
bill
chairman.
What.
F
A
F
F
For
years
and
years,
I've
been
up
here
and
always
say
what
I
found
out
in
education
is
education
is
like
a
grandfather
clock
when
you
turn
one
wheel
gear,
you
turn
in
another
one.
Have
you
looked
into
other
things
that
this
will
be
changing
too
on
a
grading
scale
that
would
affect
the
way
tennessee.
Does
things
representative,
baum.
D
I
think
that
the
the
primary
effect
would
be
how
the
gpa
is
calculated.
If
you
get
a
92
in
a
course,
it's
still
a
92
and
a
course
it
just
affects
the
way
you
would
calculate
the
grade
point
average
and
what
and
of
course,
that's
used
for
for
the
things
that
I've
mentioned
admissions
into
colleges
and
universities,
acceptance
of
others
eligibility
for
other
scholarships.
D
A
A
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
committee.
There's
no
amendment
on
this.
I
code,
950
9500,
makes
the
bill
so
a
few
years
ago
I
had
the
opportunity
to
address
the
tennessee
association
school
librarians
and
talking
about
how
best
to
lobby
and
promote
their
organization's
agenda
and
I'm
a
guy
from
the
card.
Catalog
era
of
school
libraries.
G
The
coordinator
will
do.
These
will
include
assisting
school
librarians
in
implementing
the
department's
strategic
plan.
They
can
consult,
guide
and
train
school
librarians
to
stream,
strengthen
school
library
programs
for
students
in
kindergarten
grades
and
through
excuse
me,
kindergarten
through
grade
12..
They
provide
input
on
revisions
to
the
school
librarian
evaluation
model.
They
will
work
with
with
the
state,
library
and
archives
to
provide
school
libraries
with
equal
access
to
high
quality
education.
G
Reading
material
and
resources
from
the
archives
that
support
the
department's
work
by
promoting
best
practices
among
school,
librarians
and
technical
coordinators,
they'll
develop
and
promote
strategies
for
school
librarians
to
partner
with
classroom
instructors
to
support
school
and
district
level
instruction
programs
and
last
night
during
the
state
of
the
state
address,
the
governor
talked
about
a
statewide
plan
for
school
librarians
on
determined
materials
and
such
and
this
person
could
help
ensure
that
the
state
implements
that
correctly
across
the
entire
state
with
our
school
librarians.
With
that,
mr
chairman,
I
read
my
motion.
A
G
A
Without
objection,
we
will
go
out
of
session
and
and
ask
let
me
make
sure
I
say
this
right.
Miss
kimmery.
Is
that
right
all
right,
if
you
would,
when
you
sit
down
and
turn
the
mic
on,
just
make
sure
you
state
your
name
and
who
you
are
with
for
the
record
and
try
to
keep
your
comments
to
three
minutes,
but
that's
not
including
any
questions
that
the
the
committee
might
have
welcome.
H
They
provide
leadership
and
professional
development
to
our
librarians
estate
coordinator
is
an
equitable
solution
to
ensuring
that
all
librarians
receive
proper
professional
learning
and
are
equipped
to
support
state
initiatives
with
a
new
bep
funding
formula
in
the
works
it's
important.
We
provide
equitable
funding
to
our
school
libraries.
In
a
recent
survey
that
the
tennessee
association
of
school
librarians
conducted,
we
learned
that
tennessee
school
libraries
receive
six
dollars
and
eleven
cents
per
pupil.
H
The
national
average
is
eleven
dollars
and
thirty
five
cents
per
pupil
funding
per
pupil
varies
tremendously
across
the
state
we
have
districts
receiving
ten
dollars
per
student
and
some
receiving
only
three
dollars
per
student.
We
have
some
school
libraries
receiving
no
money
whatsoever
from
their
school
district
and
have
to
purchase
books
with
book
fair
profits.
H
In
addressing
the
comment
that
representative
woodson
made
about
the
state
of
the
state
and
governor
lee
said
that
we
want
to
ensure
parents
know
what
materials
are
available
to
their
students
in
their
libraries,
and
so
while
school
library
catalogs
are
already
accessible
online
and
library
collection,
development
procedures
are
posted
online
and
reconsideration
procedures
exist
to
address
concerns
of
parents
over
school
library
materials.
A
state
coordinator
will
just
ensure
that
that
is
happening
in
every
district
across
the
state.
H
So
if
we
are
committed
to
this,
then
our
blueprint
should
include
a
school
library
in
every
school
that
is
filled
with
current
relevant
high
quality
books
and
materials
and
new
technologies
and
with
a
certified
full-time
librarian
at
the
helm
and
with
a
state
coordinator
in
the
department
of
education.
We
can
better
achieve
the
goals
for
literacy
and
learning
and
create
greater
greater
equity
for
the
students
of
our
state.
H
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
this
position
is
created,
it
does
not
usurp
the
authority
of
the
local
education
authority.
The
school
board
school
boards
are
responsible
for
the
textbooks,
as
well
as
the
books
that
go
in
the
library.
So
there
you
foresee
no
problem
with
that
situation.
The
local
school
boards
are
still
going
to
be
in
charge.
Thank
you.
I
J
B
I
A
A
F
Thank
you,
gotta
be
fat.
You
gotta
be
fast
up
here.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
do
very
much
support
this.
I
met
with
chairman
whitson
and
miss
kimmery
a
couple
years
ago
about
this,
and
I
just
really
feel
strongly
because
libraries
are
such
an
important
part
of
our
schools
that
to
have
a
state
coordinator
will
be
very
efficient
in
and
carrying
out
their
work.
So
I
think
this.
This
is
a
good
bill,
so
very
supportive.
Thank
you
chairman.
E
A
A
A
K
A
K
K
Professors
in
the
post-secondary
space
can
operate
in
the
classroom
and
in
current
code
it's
permitted
that
a
9th
through
12th
grade
class
can
be
taught
by
an
adjunct,
professor
meaning
certain
licensure
requirements,
and
this
would
actually
extend
that
down
to
6th
through
12th
grade
and
it
would
be.
The
department
would
receive
a
letter
of
recommendation
for
that
adjunct,
professor,
to
enter
into
their
the
ability
to
teach,
and
so,
mr
chairman
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
but
also
want
to
con
to
offer
opportunity
for
the
department
to
respond
as
well.
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
and
thank
you
sponsor.
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
so
adjunct
professors
in
post-secondary
generally
specialize
in
one
subject:
area
or
another
and
may
not
have
you
know
teaching
middle
school
as
a
unique
skill.
I
think,
with
a
middle
schooler
myself,
I
can
only
imagine
so
how
transferable
are
those
skills
as
an
adjunct,
professor
and
their
specialization,
potentially
in
one
area,
two
sixth
grade
or
seventh
or
eighth
representative
smith,.
K
C
C
Is
any
professor
of
a
post-secondary
institution
I
mean,
does
this
apply
to
some
of
these
for-profit
online
schools?
If
I,
you
know,
if
somebody's
a
professor
or
an
adjunct,
professor
of
some
online
post-secondary
degree
program,
can
they
qualify
for
this
or
is
it
only
licensed
in
certain
colleges
and
institutions?
B
K
Thank
you,
chairman
and
very
good
question
again.
All
this
will
be.
It
remains
under
the
jurisdiction
of
the
department
of
education,
and
so
these
applicants
would
go
under
the
same
review
process
and
application
process
of
anyone
applying
for
a
a
job
within
a
school
system,
and
so
clearly,
if
qualifications
become
questionable.
K
That
again
goes
back
to
the
local
to
the
department
of
education,
as
well
as
the
lea
to
make
sure
that
the
quality
is
there
again
not
trying
to
to
minimize
the
value
of
certain
institutions
of
higher
learning
or
or
placing
a
higher
value.
But
I
think
that
we
still
allow
the
jurisdiction
to
remain
at
the
local
level.
A
A
A
A
There
will
be
a
final
there'll,
be
a
final
calendar
that
will
deal
with
a
lot
of
the
bep
formula
bills
that
are
coming
through.
So
that's
where
we're
going
to
be
putting
a
lot
of
the
bep
formula
bills
until
we
see
kind
of
what
we're
dealing
with
with
the
the
governor's
formula,
that's
going
to
be
presented.
L
I
A
I
I
The
the
board
is
made
up
of
people
already
defining
code
about
different
backgrounds,
different
diversities,
to
make
sure
there
is
some
type
of
representation
across
the
state.
However,
the
governor
has
sold
a
pouring
story
about
where
people
come
from.
What
this
bill
does
is
it
creates
a
better
balance
to
it.
Our
constitution
affords
to
checks
and
balances
in
our
constitution
to
make
sure
that
no
one
entity
has
the
power
over
another
entity
to
dictate
what
they're
going
to
do
or
respond
how
they're
going
to
respond.
I
So
that's
why
we
have
the
the
balance
system
with
the
three
branches
of
government.
What
this
bill
wants
to
do
is
bring
that
type
of
balance
and
and
diversity
and
equity
to
the
state
board
of
education.
So
they
operate
more
autonomously
from
the
executive
branch.
They
can
actually
consider
the
bills
that
we
send
there
for
rules
and
promulgation
of
policy,
making
sure
that
they're
doing
what's
best
for
the
children
of
tennessee,
okay
without
any
type
of
interference
from
any
other
department
or
any
other
branch.
I
That's
in
our
government,
it's
a
pretty
simple
bill.
What
it
does
is
and
I'll
read
it
to
you
right
now.
It
says
the
speaker
of
the
senate
shall
appoint
to
the
first,
the
fourth
and
the
seventh
congressional
district,
the
speaker
to
house,
shall
appoint
to
the
second,
the
fifth
and
the
eighth
and
the
governor
shall
appoint
to
the
third
to
sixth
and
the
ninth
with
the
new
congressional
maps
we've
drawn.
I
We'll
have
different
people
throughout
different
times
sitting
there
and
the
way
the
board
is
made
up
right.
Now,
those
nine
people
are
appointed
by
them.
We
still
confirm
them.
I've
been
looking
very
hard
and
I
haven't
found
a
case
where
any
member,
any
person
that's
been
appointed
by
the
governor,
has
been
denied
by
the
senator
of
the
house.
I
A
A
N
M
M
The
legislature
currently
has
approval
power
over
each
of
the
nine
appointments
that
go
before
go
for
the
state
board
of
education
and
the
legislature
can
vote
those
up
or
down
which
we
believe
is
a
good,
a
good
process
and
we
feel
like
we
have
some
some
solid
quality
members
on
the
state
board
of
education
currently
and
it
from
our
perspective
is
working
well.
I
know
the
department
has
some
additional
comments
on
the
the
process
and
the
current
operating
of
the
the
state
board
too.
N
Those
latter
two
are
in
place
currently
and
we
believe,
are
sufficient
authority
for
the
legislature
to
exercise
their
proper
function
and
oversight,
and
the
other
thing
I
will
note
too.
We
do
have
some
concerns
at
the
department
with
what
might
happen
with
this
in
terms
of
possible
vacancies
that
may
arise,
there
have
been
some
difficulties
in
having
vacancies
filled
and
the
work
of
the
state
board.
N
As
the
executive
branch
rule-making,
policy-making
authority
of
the
state
is
so
critical
to
the
operation
of
our
schools,
and
I
think,
over
the
course
of
the
last
couple
of
years,
that
board
has
needed
to
be
very
flexible
and
having,
in
addition
to
their
four
annual.
Quarterly
meetings
have
had
to
have
several
emergency
meetings
to
take
up
critical
issues
for
our
students.
That
could
not
wait
for
a
quarterly
meeting.
N
If
there
were
issues
with
with
appointments
that
led
to
long-term
vacancies
that
could
create
issues
with
quorum,
it
really
could
have
a
negative
effect
on
our
students,
educators
and
again.
We
feel
that
the
way
the
system
is
working
currently
is
working,
that
there
are
proper
checks
and
balances
in
place,
and
then,
as
a
final
note,
I
I
will
say
that
there
are
only
three
states
in
the
country
in
which
the
legislature
has
any
appointing
authority
over
state
boards
of
education.
N
F
F
M
E
Chairman
reagan,
thank
you
and
to
whichever
you
choose
to
address,
it
appears
to
me
that
we
currently
have
a
situation
where
the
department
of
education
works
for
the
governor
as
part
of
the
cabinet
and
the
state
board
of
education,
which
was
created
separately
some
years
back
to
help
separate
some
of
the
powers
from
the
department
of
education.
But
still
if
we
allow
the
governor,
all
the
appointments
has
the
influence
of
the
governor,
not
just
in
the
department
but
on
the
board
as
well.
E
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
question.
I
think
the
way
we
approach
this
is
the
state
board,
the
team
they
have
there
and
the
members
that
are
on
the
state
board.
Now
this
is
a
system
that
is
working
effectively,
and
so
I
think
we
kind
of
view
this
as
a
solution
in
search
of
a
problem
for
how
to
to
better
put
together
the
state
board
of
education.
E
Chairman
reagan,
thank
you
and
to
mr
buffalino,
you
mentioned
that
the
state
board
has
rule
making
authority.
I
will
point
out
to
you
that
rules
have
the
force
of
law
once
they're
implemented,
and
that
is
a
delegation
from
the
legislature,
so
we
already
have,
as
you
pointed
out
legislature.
In
that
sense,
I
failed
to
understand
why
you
wouldn't
want
legislature
involved
in
the
other
side.
Do
you
have
any
comments
on
that.
N
Thank
you
chairman.
I
think
what
I
would
say
is
in
that
force
of
law.
Delegation
comes
back
to
the
legislature
in
the
review
and
approval
of
those
rules.
I
think
the
legislator
is
able
to
exercise
its
authority
over
every
decision
that
the
state
board
makes
through
rulemaking
those
have
to
go
through
your
committee
and
chairman
roberts
committee.
I
I
fail
to
see
the
connection
with
the
appointment
authority
on
that
front.
N
E
M
N
C
Education
is
in
the
executive
branch,
yes,
sir,
and
so
we're
the
legislative
branch.
That's
the
executive
branch.
The
commissioner
is
appointed
by
the
governor
and
contrary
to
what
was
said,
I
think,
while
the
commissioner
works
at
the
pleasure
of
the
governor
is
appointed
by
the
governor,
the
department
works
for
the
schools
of
tennessee,
not
the
governor.
It's
made
up
of
state
employees
and
appointees
who
are
responsible
for
representing
and
working
for,
students,
teachers,
faculty
and
our
schools.
C
So
if
it's
in
the
executive
branch
and
that
is
executive
function,
then
I'm
I'm
at
a
loss
for
why
the
legislature
wants
to
increase
its
authority
over
that
appointment
and
look,
I
I
don't
think
it's
any
secret.
I
don't
agree
with
this
governor,
pretty
much
anything
when
it
comes
to
education,
especially,
but
you
know
if
we're
gonna
start
reaching
over
into
other
branches
of
government,
it's
a
dangerous
path,
we're
going
to
head
down,
and
I
don't
know
that
we
voted
against
a
single
appointment
he's
made
since
he's
been
in
office
for
three
years.
C
N
A
O
Mr
chairman
and
members,
I'm
nathan,
james,
I'm
the
deputy
executive
director
for
legislative
and
external
affairs
for
the
state
board
of
education.
I
simply
went
through
the
process
of
signing
up
so
that,
in
the
event
that
a
member
did
have
a
question
for
the
state
board
of
education,
I
would
be
within
the
house
rules
and
able
to
answer
it.
So
with
that.
If
there's
no
questions,
I'm
happy
to
go
back
and
if
you'd
like
to
hear
from
me.
F
Chairman
what
thank
you,
mr
james,
I'm
glad
to
see
you
back
in
the
country.
Thank
you,
sir.
I
had
a
little
difficult
time
getting
back
my
question
to
you
on
the
state
board.
Having
worked
with
doe
and
the
state
board,
I
see
the
importance
of
what
the
state
board's
role
is:
give
us
a
brief
understanding
of
the
role
of
the
nine-member
board
and
its
importance
to
the
state
board.
As
far
as
you
being
able
to
conduct
business
and
make
decisions.
O
So
the
the
role
of
the
state
board
of
education
and
keep
in
mind
we've
had
some
variety
of
a
state
board
of
public
instruction
since
the
1830s.
It's
looked
different
ways
at
different
points
in
time,
but
it
was.
It
was
reorganized
into
what
exists
now
in
1984
by
act
of
lieutenant
governor
john
wilder.
O
O
You
have
in
the
statute
a
requirement
for
one
active
teacher.
At
the
moment
we
have
one
active
teacher
and
two
or
three
others
that
have
been
teachers
at
various
points
in
time,
their
engineers,
their
business
people,
there's
a
a
lot
of
different
walks
of
life.
We
have
one
member
right
now
who's
the
president
of
a
couple
of
rural
hospitals
right,
but
it
is
the
legislature's
way
of
of
saying
that
education
absolutely
affects
every
tennessean,
whether
you're
a
parent
or
a
student,
or
you
don't
have
children.
O
It
affects
business
in
terms
of
who
is
able
to
go
to
work
for
companies.
It
affects
property
values
every
bit
of
it,
and
so
the
board
itself
is
charged
under
the
law
with
creating
rules
under
the
laws
that
this
legislature
passes.
You
all
in
the
course
of
your
time.
Every
year
you
may
create
a
new
program
and
not
all
the
questions
about
how
that's
to
be
implemented
are
answered
in
that
bill,
and
so
you
give
rulemaking
authority
and
we
continue
to
be
absolutely
dedicated
to
being
as
transparent
as
we
can
be.
O
F
O
If,
if
there
is
not
a
quorum,
we
we
have
to
reschedule
until
we
can
get
a
quorum.
It's
just
like.
You
can't
convene
the
house
of
representatives
without
without
a
quorum,
the
senate
cannot
be
convened
without
a
quorum,
and
neither
can
we
and
of
course,
we've.
We've
also
got
the
requirements
in
law
to
notice
each
of
our
meetings,
so
we
can't
say
well
we'll
try
in
five
minutes.
It's
got
to
be
a
minimum
of.
I
think
it's
six
days.
Six
seven
days
chairman.
O
A
I
I
I
To
imply
or
assume
or
an
innuendo
that
the
speaker
of
the
house
to
lieutenant
governor
and
the
governor
would
not
be
able
to
fill
these
spots
is
not
right.
Education
is
one
of
the
biggest
things
we
do
in
tennessee.
Education
affects
all
aspects
of
tennessean's
life,
it
is,
it
affects
corrections
and
how
many
people
we
have
incarcerated
incarcerated
by
the
lack
of
education,
drug
abuse,
alcoholism,
teen,
pregnancy
opportunities
for
life.
I
I
C
I
State
board
of
education,
sir.
No,
no,
no
sir,
the
impetus
behind
it.
There
was
a
bill
that
we
had
that
we
were
working
on.
I
I
think
it
might
have
been
last
year
the
year
before
I
don't
remember
where
it
was,
but
it
was
about
waivers
and
the
general
assembly
took
the
authority
of
waivers
away
from
the
commissioner
of
education
because
of
abuse.
I
Now,
in
that
bill,
the
state
board
of
education
was
supposed
to
get
support
from
the
department
of
education
to
help.
If
there
are
any
waiver
requests
for
our
textbooks
and
curriculum,
and
we
had
to
come
back
and
work
on
legislation
on
that,
because
the
department
of
education
insisted
that
they
wanted
three
more
people
to
help
out.
C
Thank
you,
mr
I
I
guess
I'm
just
concerned
that
we're
seeking
to
pass
legislation
and
rewrite
a
process
here.
That's
worked
pretty
well
for
some
time,
simply
because
a
few
members
had
a
disagreement
with
wealth,
the
an
action
on
a
particular
piece
of
legislation,
and
it's
it.
It
comes
off
as
some
sort
of
revenge
or
vendetta
and
payback.
So
I
I
guess,
I'm
just
concerned
what
we're
doing
here
to
achieve
that
aim.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
Sometimes
leadership
is
very
difficult
just
because
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
something
because
we've
always
done
it.
That
way.
That's
not
a
good
reason
to
do
something:
making
sure
that
the
people
that
we
appoint
to
the
state
board
of
education
realize
that
they
don't
work
for
one
person
or
one
branch
that
they
work
for
the
students
of
tennessee
and
the
people
of
tennessee
to
make
sure
educational
system
is
the
best.
I
I
urge
us.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Ever
since
this
bill
came
to
my
attention,
I've
been
trying
to
understand
all
aspects,
and
so
I'm
asking
all
these
questions
just
like
the
first
bill,
the
90-100.
What
are
we
changing
in
addition,
because
things
build
upon
each
other,
so
my
question
would
be
what
now,
whether
the
governor
or
leadership
in
the
house
and
senate?
F
That's
not
my
concern.
My
concern
is:
have
you
spoken
to
the
lieutenant
governors
of
the
speaker
of
the
senate
and
speak
of
the
house
about
their
they're
not
set
up?
They
do
make
appointments.
I
know
that,
but
is
there
office
set
up
to
make
these
kind
of
appointments
in
a
timely,
timely
manner,
or
would
they
have
to
bring
in
additional
staff
or
whatnot
to
make
sure?
Because
we
do
have
the
boards
and
commissions
on
the
governor?
That's
why
that
was
put
in
place.
I
C
I
The
board
is
still
going
to
function
as
the
board
they're
still
going
to
promulgate
the
rules
and
the
policies
you
will
be
able
to
remove
some
of
that
influence
from
the
department.
That's
a
question:
you
have
to
ask
yourself
as
a
representative:
do
you
want
to
have
the
department
of
education
in
their
in
their
capacity
as
being
appointed
commissioner
being
appointed
by
the
governor
and
these
nine
people
being
appointed
by
the
governor.
I
Are
you,
okay,
with
that
potential
influence
over
the
board
of
education?
That's
a
decision.
You're
gonna
have
to
make
as
a
representative
and
we're
all
gonna
have
to
make.
We
have
had
issues
with
the
department
of
education
since
we've
come
in
together.
We've
had
issues
with
the
department
on
some.
Mr
chairman,
chairman,
hayes
trying
to
be
careful
here.
Okay,
we've
talked
about
this
trying
to
influence
a
decision
by
the
board
trying
to
interject,
maybe
a
policy
that
they
may
want
to
see
getting
involved
with
the
textbook
commission.
I
I
There's
no
way
that
a
governor
or
a
house
or
a
senate
could
wield
that
influence
over
that
board
anymore,
because
now
it's
three
three
and
three,
and
you
all
know
that
we
try
to
work
on
bills
here
in
the
house
and
sometimes
our
senate
colleagues
do
not
agree
with
us.
So
we
have
that
automatic
balance
and
independence
between
the
the
executive
branch,
this
senate
and
the
house
that
we
can
apply
to
the
board
of
education
that
we
do
on
other
textbook.
J
J
You
know
across
our
state
we
have
a
lot
a
lot
of
boards
and,
and
you
know,
from
different
different
departments
and
and
all-
and
I
guess
I'll
use
my
9-1-1
director
since
he
was
here
from
knox
county
today.
I
I
believe
their
board
is
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
is
probably
chosen
more
about
how
you're
wanting
this
board
to
go
essentially
kind
of.
J
And
I-
and
I-
and
I
told
him
I
said
I'm
coming
in
with
the
open
mind
today-
to
listen
to
both
sides
and
to
make
what
I
feel
is
the
best
discussion
or
indecision,
and
so
I
I
mean
this
is
where
we
start.
We
start
by
discussing
this
and
making
sure
that
we
all
have
have
gone
through
every
channel
to
make
sure
we
make
the
best
decision
and
it
affects
all
I
mean
it
does
affect
him
entire,
full
education
board.
J
So
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
kind
of
put
it
all
together
and
see
too.
If
we've
got
three
three
and
three
will
we
ever
if
we
have
the
different
areas
and
and
all
will
they
ever
be
able
to
come
to
a
decision
and
and
not
have
such
a
somewhat
in
this
or
some
wanting
that
in
terms
of
making
decisions
for
it?
So
I'm
just
I'm
just
trying
to
listen
and
and
and
make
the
right
decision
where
we
need
to
go
on
it.
I
I
think
I
got
your
question,
I'm
going
to
try
to
answer
it.
If
I
don't
just
stop
me,
okay,
the
person
that
serves
on
your
state
board
of
education
right
now,
I
don't
know
what
congressional
district
that
person
would
be
in,
but
the
way
this
would
work
moving
forward
and
in
the
bill
it
talks
about.
This
is
until
july,
1st
of
22.
So
as
these
board
members
would
start
to
cycle
off,
the
state
board
of
education
would
know
exactly
by
cop
by
congressional
district.
Where
is
everybody
located
all
over?
I
I
I
I
I
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
to
address
the
comment
made
earlier
by
one
of
my
colleagues
here.
You
know
they
all
saw
about
it
works
fine
now,
so
why
fix
it?
I
would
point
out
that
we
have
other
boards,
some
of
which
have
been
mentioned
already,
that
are
already
doing
the
three
three
and
three
we
haven't
had
a
problem
with
that
I
will
mention
also
just
fyi
since
I
chair
a
committee
that
sees
243
boards
and
agencies.
E
I
know
from
first-hand
experience
when
the
property
of
disagreement
would
be
involved
in
that
to
this
point
in
time,
I
have
to
say
that
the
disagreements
that
I
have
seen
on
boards
has
been
disagreements
and
opinions
on
how
best
to
do
something
or
whether
or
not,
as
the
case
may
be
not
related
to
whether
or
not
we
should
appoint
them
this
way
or
that
way,
I
really
don't
think
board.
Members
are
concerned
with
that.
E
The
point
I
want
you
to
remember
is
that
the
board
was
created
by
the
legislative
branch.
It
does
not
exist
under
constitutional
authority,
we
created
it
under
statute
and
I
think
it's
within
our
purview
to
staff
it
any
way
we
see
fit
with.
That
said,
we
have
in
fact,
as
a
body
chosen
to
staff
other
boards
and
agencies
with
the
the
executive
and
the
legislative
branch
participating
in
joint
selection.
E
A
L
The
district
changes.
What
becomes
of
that?
I
know,
there's
a
program
in
place
to
do
that,
but
I
think
my
feeling
was,
if
you
had
one
entity
right
now,
who
was
able
to
figure
that
out,
it
may
provide
more
continuity
going
forward
instead
of
having
at
least
three
individual
parties
or
three
separate
parties,
rather
doing
that,
so
just
trying
to
find
the
path
of
least
confusion
which
makes
it
a
bit
difficult
for
me
to
get
behind.
L
I
I
You
may
get
someone
from
a
totally
different
part
of
the
state
to
serve
on
there,
which
now
hypothetically
in
davidson
county
right-
let's
say
someone
said
with
our
cycles
off
from
davidson
county
under
the
current
proposal,
it
can
be
from
anywhere
so
that
representation
in
davidson
county
could
be
gone,
whereas
if
it's
tied
to
a
congressional
district
now
you
start
to
get
some
continuity
to
where
and
I'm
doing
this
from
memory.
I
believe
the
previous
district
had
nashville
by
itself
with
one
congressman.
I
Now
you
have
the
opportunity
to
have
three
shots:
to
have
someone
serving
on
the
board
of
education,
which
being
able,
with
shelby
county
being
able
to
represent
a
urban
district
on
the
state
board
of
education
with
with
the
challenges
they
face
is
very
important,
suburban
and
rural,
et
cetera
right.
So
I
hope
that
we
would
see
that
going
forward
is
going
to
present
an
opportunity
for
us
to
make
sure
that
our
urban
districts
are
represented
with
more
opportunity
there
to
be
chosen
under
the
current
system.