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House Education Administration Committee- January 26, 2022- House Hearing Room 1
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We
we
do
not
have
any
legislation
or
bills
on
before
us,
but
we
do
have
two
excellent
presenters
that
they
want
to
share
things
with
the
education
committee
of
what
is
going
on
in
their
field
and
we
like
to
give
their
attention
so
we're
going
to
start
out
first
with
arts,
ed
tennessee,
mr
stephen
coleman,
if
you
will
come
up
to
the
microphone,
you
know
the
drill
on
this,
you
either
one.
A
You
know,
that's
fine
right
here,
right
in
front
of
you
and
there
will
be
a
microphone
just
make
sure
the
button
is
on
the
red
light
comes
on,
so
we
can
hear.
A
C
C
I
want
to
thank
chairman
white
and
the
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
address
you
today.
My
name
is
stephen
coleman
and
I'm.
The
president
of
arts,
ed
tennessee
with
me
from
arts,
ed
tennessee,
on
the
other
side
of
the
table,
is
taber
stamper,
former
ceo
of
khs
america,
which
is
one
of
the
world's
top
musical
instrument
manufacturers
and
has
its
corporate
headquarters
in
tennessee
and
at
mount
juliet
arts,
ed
tennessee,
is
a
501c3
charitable
non-profit
that
resemble
represents
all
k-12
arts
education
content
areas.
C
C
Art
said
tennessee
works
to
ensure
supportive
policies
and
essential
funding
to
advance
high
quality
arts
education
for
all
students
in
tennessee.
Like
all
of
you,
we
at
arts
in
tennessee
understand
how
important
the
arts
are
in
our
state.
They
strengthen
our
economy,
spark
innovation
and
improve
the
academic
achievement
and
well-being
of
our
students.
C
C
Prior
to
his
work,
with
generator
steven
directed
intergovernmental
and
congressional
affairs
at
the
national
governors
association,
he
served
his
liaison
between
governors
and
federal
government
and
led
education,
labor
economic
development
and
workforce
policy.
Development.
Stephen
is
the
strong
supporter
of
arts
education
in
our
schools.
D
Stephen
parker,
the
country
music
association
foundation.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you,
members
of
the
committee.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
today.
I
am
the
son
of
a
piano
teacher.
D
D
It
is
a
tremendous
honor
to
serve
as
a
member
of
the
board
of
directors
at
the
country,
music
association
foundation,
the
country
music
association
foundation
for
the
past
10
years
has
been
a
national
grant
making
organization
they've
invested
27
million
dollars
in
music
education
among
the
highest
amounts
invested
by
any
organization
in
music
education
across
the
country
of
that
27
million.
17
million
of
that
27
million
has
gone
directly
back
in
to
music
education
programs
within
tennessee.
At
your
schools.
D
We
are
known
for
cma
fest,
which
is
one
of
the
largest
country
music
events
in
the
world,
but
it
also
doubles
as
the
largest
fundraiser
for
music
education
in
the
world
and
that
the
proceeds
from
cma
education,
our
model
is
building
community,
convening
stakeholders,
finding
data
and
making
sure
we're
informed
and
informing
and
educating
just
like.
We
are
today
we're
most
proud
of
a
new
initiative
that
we
launched
about
four
years
ago,
starting
with
the
haslam
administration
and
continuing
in
with
the
lee
administration
called
state
of
the
arts.
D
State
of
the
arts
was
an
effort
by
cma
to
make
sure
that
school
districts
across
the
state
outside
of
the
nashville
area
that
have
received
a
lot
of
support
for
music
education
started
to
receive
resources
on
music
education
for
music
education.
That
includes
musical
equipment.
That
includes
high
quality
instruction
materials,
and
it
also
included
us
collecting
data
on
a
voluntary
basis
about
where
music
education
is
available
and
where
it's
not.
D
D
We
then
expanded
our
work
to
collect
data
statewide,
to
figure
out
where
the
gaps
are
and
in
2019
we
started
a
pilot
program
with
mr
holland's
opus
here
in
the
city
of
nashville
and
last
year
that
pilot
program
expanded
statewide
to
essentially
allow
any
school
that
voluntarily
once
won
a
needs
assessment
about
how
well
their
arts
organizations
are
how
well
their
arts
programs
are
doing
in
their
in
their
schools
and
how
they
can
improve
upon
those
arts
programs.
D
D
I
we
saw
in
tennessee,
we
saw
in
my
home
state
of
virginia
when
school
returned
this
year
there
were
fights
breaking
out.
There
were
emotional
issues.
There
were
breakdowns
more
than
we've
ever
seen
before
mental
health
issues
in
schools
is
not
anything
new.
We
saw
mental
health
issues
for
a
variety
of
reasons
before
the
pandemic,
but
students
being
at
home
for
so
long
with
very
few
academic
and
and
really
friend,
supports
and
and
educator
supports,
caused
them
great
harm.
And
that's
not
just
me
saying
that.
D
We
believe
that
arts,
education
and
music
education
is
a
solution
to
this,
and
we
don't
just
believe
it
because
we're
advocates
for
arts
education.
We
believe
it
because
there
is
significant
research,
both
academic
and
practical.
That
says
that
arts
education
can
improve.
Mental
health
arts
in
general
can
improve
mental
health
in
the
past
year,
as
as
in
since
may
of
last
year,
reports
have
come
out
from
the
education
commission
on
the
states,
a
federal
agency
castle
mayor,
the
state
of
maryland,
the
state
of
arizona,
the
national
pta
americans
for
the
arts
and
syracuse
university.
D
D
There
was
a
book
released
in
october
all
about
how
our
how
the
arts
can
save
education
and
in
that
book
was
a
chapter
on
how
the
arts
are
increasing
the
want
of
teachers
to
stay
in
schools
and
stay
in
their
careers.
We
also
know
that
art
can
help
art
education
can
help
when
it
comes
to
performance
in
other
subjects,
including
literacy
and
math.
D
If
I'm
a
good
lobbyist,
I'm
going
to
leave
you
with
a
story,
and
that
story
is
about
someone
here
in
the
nashville
area
area.
Her
name
is
bella.
Bella
in
2018
was
a
third
grader.
She
enrolled
in
a
music
education
program
in
her
school.
She
was
shy.
D
She
was
scared
to
stand
in
front
of
her
classmates
when
she
wasn't
singing,
let
alone
when
she
was
singing,
and
she
was.
D
She
had
a
lot
of
anxiety
due
to
bullying
that
was
happening
due
to
what
her
fellow
students
were
saying
about
her
weight,
but
her
music
teacher
noticed
that
she
was
very
loud
and
proud
when
she
sang
and
she
essentially
started
to
come
out
of
her
shell,
so
much
so
that
she
became
a
star
pupil
in
her
class
and
she
got
a
lot
of
attention
and
who
you
see
before
you
now
is
bella
on
the
screen.
This
is
bella
performing
in
front
of
50
000
people
at
nissan
stadium
during
the
country,
music
association
fest.
D
This
is
bella
who
overcame
her
anxiety.
This
is
bella
who
overcame
the
mental
difficulties
that
faced
her
due
to
the
challenges
of
her
school,
and
this
is
bella
before
the
pandemic
and
bella
continues
to
do
music.
To
this
day,
students
like
bella
across
the
state
of
tennessee
can
have
the
same
experience
and
arts
education
that
bella
did
except
right.
D
Now
we
know
from
the
data
that
we're
collecting
from
with
your
state
department
of
education
that
there
are
78
excuse
me
38
000,
students
that
are
not
able
to
access
arts
and
music
education
as
we
speak
in
the
state.
So
we
would
encourage
you
all
to
work
with
us.
We
would
go
on
school
visits
to
arts
and
music
educations
programs
with
you
at
any
point.
D
A
Thank
you
so
very
much
that
was
very
well
said,
and
members
do
you
have
just
third
guest
have
anything
to
comment
there:
okay,
okay,
any
one!
Yes,
sir
representative,
hakeem.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
gentlemen,
to
me
you
said
in
a
a
higher
standard
that
I've
seen
in
some
foundations
you
you're
not
just
looking
you're,
not
just
throwing
money
at
so-called
problems,
you're
investing
in
understanding
and
sharing
that
understanding
with
others
of
the
needs
of
many
people.
B
Some
people
can
see,
but
in
my
view
you
all
have
a
vision
that
improves
the
lives
of
so
many
people,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
the
vision
and
the
willingness
to
improve
the
lives
of
others.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
chairman
from
being
from
knoxville
tennessee,
representing
district
16,
the
home
of
kelsey
ballerina,
who
was
at
my
alma
mater
high
school
and
a
home
of
kenny
chesney,
who
was
gibbs
high
school,
which
was
maybe
two
miles
from
where
I
grew
up
and
from
where
I
live
to
this
day,
so
my
family's
very
much
involved
in
music
and
in
arts
and
from
serving
on
knox
county
commission
for
for
several
years.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
also.
E
It's
unfortunate
that
that's
sometimes
the
first
cut
that
happens
in
our
local
governments
when
it
comes
to
education
and
monies,
is
that
arts
and
and
music
and
all
are
the
first
ones
that
they
cut
back
on
so
just
to
to
let
you
know
that
I
110
support
you
and
I
have
to,
I
guess-
throw
out
a
shout
to
wivk
the
number
one
nation
country
radio
station,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
all
and
that
I
I
love
country,
music
and,
and
I
love
music
and
arts.
E
I
totally
appreciate
you
all
being
here
and
taking
the
time
and
investing
like
my
colleague
just
mentioned,.
A
Thank
you.
Let
me
add
to
that.
That's
one
reason
I
wanted
them
to
come
before
the
committee
to
remind
us
we're
talking
right
a
lot
right
now
with
legislation
on
mental.
As
we
say,
mental
health
is
before
us
in
our
schools
every
day
and
we're
asked
to
you
know,
add
more
nurses,
more
counselors,
more
mental
health
specialists.
Just
don't
forget
that
the
arts
is
a
big
part
of
that,
and
so
thank
you.
So
much
for
your
presentation
very
well
very
well
delivered
anyone
else.
Members.
A
A
Once
you're
situated
just
make
sure
your
mic
is
on
and
for
our
av
presentation
make
sure
you
state
your
name
and
who
you
with
oh,
yes,
sir.
Yes,
so
you
may
pass
those
out.
F
Fantastic,
I
think
I
know
how
to
work.
One
of
these
things
you,
let
me
know:
okay,
okay,
you
may
begin
good
afternoon.
Mr
chairman,
mr
vice
chairman,
distinguished
members
of
this
committee,
thank
you
for
the
invitation
to
learn
a
bit
more
about
jobs
for
tennessee
graduates,
probably
the
most
successful,
tennessee
educational
success
story.
None
of
you
really
know
much
about,
and
that's
about
to
change
I
won't
bury.
The
lead.
F
Want
you
to
think
about
your
favorite
teacher
in
high
school
and
you're
all
nodding?
You
all
have
that
vision.
You
smile
when
you
think
about
that
person
and
I
hope
I'm
not
putting
representative
hasten
on
the
spot,
but
representative
hasten.
Who
would
be
your
favorite
teacher,
not
coach,
favorite
teacher
at
perry,
county
high
school.
B
My
favorite
teacher
growing
up
was,
of
course
my
mother
patti
kirk,
hasten.
I
will
say
that
was
good
answer
that
was
fifth
grade
english.
I
did
call
her
miss
patty
and
not
mom,
and
at
the
high
school
I
would
say
it
would
probably
be
blake
skelton.
Our
math
teacher.
B
Mickey
williams
told
me
today
that,
if
I
didn't
say
her
name,
she
would
be
irate,
and
I
totally
just
forgot
that
she
texted
me
earlier
today
and
then
she
will
be
playing
this
when
I
get
back
to
school
on
friday,
so
so
yeah.
She
totally
called
me
out
on
that,
but
yeah
mickey
williams
definitely
top
five.
I'm
saying
that
on
purpose
no
she's
she
was
one
of
my
favorites.
When
I
was
there.
F
B
You
recognized
thank
you,
chairman
watt.
She
she
was
always
she
always
had
the
best
field
trips,
and
so
we
always
wanted
to
get
in
her
class
for
that.
But
if
anybody
can
make
chemistry
fun,
they
deserve
to
be
recognized.
So
I'm
glad
that
you
brought
her
up
and
she
did
do
that.
F
Thank
you,
representative
hasten.
She
is
now
a
jtg
specialist
and
has
done
wonders
so
she's,
a
favorite
teacher.
Also,
a
testimonial
naji
madsfield
naje
in
2013
was
a
sophomore
at
stratford
high
school
here
in
nashville
and
as
a
sophomore.
She
was
contemplating
suicide.
She
has
a
mentally
ill
parent.
F
Her
father
left
and
her
mother
also
suffers
from
addiction
her
senior
year.
She
was
in
the
jtg
program
and
eric
polk
was
her
favorite
teacher.
He
set
sites
for
her
and
goals
for
her
and
she
achieved
them
spectacularly.
She
had
plans.
She
worked
a
full-time
job
at
a
local,
fast
food
restaurant.
To
make
money
worked
her
way
up
to
walgreens
was
able
to
get
that
job
because
of
jobs
for
tennessee
graduates
and
I'll.
Tell
you
the
payoff
of
what
she's
doing
now
in
just
a
moment.
If
you
see
on
the
slide.
F
Institutions
feel
like
they
turn
out
people
who
are
employable
young
people
who
are
employable
at
an
89
percent
rate
likely
to
be
employable.
You
ask
employers
that
same
question.
It's
11
percent,
a
huge
disconnect,
make
no
mistake.
We
will
graduate
seniors
in
tennessee
and
in
a
broad
brush.
That's
great.
Nearly
90
percent,
but
also
employers
tell
us
over
and
over
that
these
young
people
are
not
employable.
They
don't
have
a
plan,
they
don't
have
an
edge
after
high
school,
but
the
folks
in
jtg
do
what
do.
F
Jtg
specialists
do
well
they're
full-time
teachers
that
go
in
for
one
credit
course:
general
elective
teaching,
the
37,
employability,
competencies,
things
like
job
interview,
skills,
conflict
resolution,
getting
along
with
your
co-workers,
dress,
etiquette,
also
leadership
and
community
service,
all
the
soft
skills.
We
call
it
essential
skills
that
are
lacking
in
today's
workforce.
F
That's
fine,
but
more
importantly,
that
92
positive
outcomes,
folks
either
going
to
full-time
work
about
a
third
of
our
students,
go
right
off
the
stage
into
full-time
employment
and
by
the
way,
that's
good
they're,
a
taxpayer,
but
also
there's
a
hybrid
of
post-secondary
education
and
also
part-time
or
full-time
work,
and
our
students
earn
college
scholarships.
We
don't
just
stress,
get
a
job,
we
say:
get
a
career
5.2
million
dollars
awarded
in
post-secondary
education.
F
F
F
F
We
need
awareness
and
we
need
absolutely
to
have
superintendents
principals
know
about
this
program.
The
funding
formula
is
simple:
if
you
invest
in
this
position
and
it
can
be
anywhere
between
forty
and
seventy
thousand
dollars,
your
first
investment
is
seven
thousand
dollars
the
next
year.
It's
ten.
We
cap
it
at
fifteen.
You
get
a
full-time
teacher
dealing
with
at-risk
students
graduating
at
a
high
rate
and
giving
them
a
plan
after
high
school
for
seven
thousand
dollars.
F
When
we
launch
programs,
new
programs
like
in
decatur,
riverside
and
westwood
in
memphis,
they
look
at
the
value
and
say
we
will
take
that
all
day
long,
I'm
not
asking
for
the
state
to
pay
for
this
program,
I'm
asking
for
them
to
return.
It
have
a
having
investment
in
it.
The
return
in
investment
is
undeniable.
F
They
pay
back
the
young
people
that
become
taxpayers
pay
this
back
in
a
matter
of
months,
so
they
can
either
live
off
of
state
and
federal
programs
which
naje
was
destined
to
do
or
you
can
be
naje
who
goes
and
becomes.
The
valedictorian
of
her
class
at
stratford
earns
a
bridges
to
belmont
scholarship
worth
nearly
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
F
Graduates
in
2015
then
goes
and
graduates
college
and
then
goes
and
gets
her
masters
at
samford
and
who
is
now
currently
working
for
the
united
way
of
central
alabama
she's
a
success
story,
but
she
would
have
fallen
through
the
cracks
jtg
lifts
young
folks
up,
so
I
implore
you,
let's
find
more
favorite
teachers
because
they
make
a
difference.
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
so
this
is
the
first
that
I've
heard
about
your
program
and
and
obviously
I
see
knocks
on
there
as
a
target
county.
E
I
guess
I'm
asking
is:
is
this
something
that
you
all
that
our
knox
county
school
board
could
invite
you
to
come
and
do
a
presentation
to
get
this
in
so
that
knox,
county
school
board
and
administration
knows
which
I'm
sure
they've
heard
and
they
know
of
it?
So
I
guess
I'm
asking
just
maybe
for
all
of
us
or
whatever
what
what
is
do
you
go
to
these
different
counties
and
do
presentations
for
for
school
boards
and
all
in
order
to
to
help
get
this
word
out.
F
F
It
shouldn't
be
this
hard
for
a
program
that,
with
these
results,
especially
during
a
population,
that's
falling
through
the
cracks
that
will
be
devastated
wrecked.
You
talk
about
mental
health.
We
deal
with
trauma-informed
care.
These
teachers
know
the
nuances
of
dealing
with
students
that
have
trauma
in
their
life
and
we
can
only
imagine
what
it's
been
like
for
them,
the
last
18
to
two
years.
I
would
love
that
opportunity
to
get
in
front
of
not
we
used
to
be
in
austin
east.
F
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
mr
walter
wire
good
to
see
you
again
good
to
see
you
I
enjoyed
our
meeting
earlier
this
week.
Thank
you.
B
I
just
want
to
ask
two
questions.
First,
could
you
just
go
into?
I
see
some
of
your
corporate
sponsors
in
this
little
brochure
here.
Can
you
go
over
just
where
some
of
your
funding
comes
from
non-governmental
funding?
That
is.
F
Unum
down
in
chattanooga,
where
we
have
two
programs,
ivy
academy
and
cgla,
but
it's
very
important
to
be
sustainable,
that
we
secure
a
lot
more
and
I
mean
heavy
yardage
heavy
big
chunks
of
yardage
from
from
private.
There
must
be
private
investment
and
we're
much
more
aggressive
this
year.
Part
of
the
sustainability
in
the
recurring
representative
gillespie,
is
we
didn't
know
in
the
spring
whether
we
were
going
to
be
around
the
next
year
is
we're
on
these.
You
know
one-year
contracts.
F
I
have
no
issue
with
proving
to
say
we
do.
We
do
what
we
say
we
do,
but
the
recurring
would
allow
us
to
be
sustainable
and
allow
us
to
have
more
confidence
with
with
private
corporations,
to
invest
in
us
in
a
25,
50,
100
000
level
and
then
go
after
matching
grants
so
that
they
feel,
like
that's
a
great
in
return
and
investment.
We
also
by
the
way,
create
an
employer
engagement
model.
F
One
example
that
that
we
proposed
in
greene
county
at
west
green
high
school
next
to
john
deere
is
to
have
john
deere,
go
after
a
grant
there,
and
then
they
would
have
a
john
deere
day.
The
first
tuesday
of
every
month,
where
they'd
come
in,
speak
or
there's
a
guest
tour.
Maybe
they
bring
in
fine
financial
responsibility
with
a
with
a
bank
partner,
so
they
own
that
program
get
them.
You
know
it's
wonderful,
to
write
a
check.
It's
you
get
so
involved.
F
Comcast
came
into
maplewood
a
few
years
ago,
an
hr
person
and
hired
four
people
right
off
the
graduation
stage,
because
she
was
so
impressed
at
how
they
did
the
mock
interviews,
and
these
are
students
who
in
august,
had
no
clue
what
they
were
going
to
do
for
a
living.
They
walked
out
with
15
an
hour
after
graduation
and
full
benefits.
B
G
I
I
will
say
that
we
have
had
this
program
at
hillwood
high
school
here
in
nashville
several
years,
I've
been
honored
to
represent
hillwood
high
school,
I'm
unfortunately
losing
it
with
redistricting,
but
I
can
tell
you
firsthand
what
a
difference
it's
made
in
the
lives
of
students
who've
come
through
that
program
and
have
benefited
from
the
great
teachers
and
instruction
in
that
program,
and
I
think,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
I
think
the
cost
is
about
1200
per
student.
That
goes
to
the
program.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
F
G
And
so
you
know
every
student
it
benefits.
This
is
one
of
those
deals
where
you
invest
a
little
money
and
you
save
a
lot
of
money
in
other
areas
where
what
could
happen
to
these
children?
Where
could
they
end
up
what
you
know?
How
could
they
end
up
in
the
system
costing
this
state
a
lot
more
money,
and
so
a
few
years
ago?
I
guess
it
was
about
two
years
ago.
G
I
want
to
say
probably
during
the
pandemic
or
before
several
of
us
worked
across
the
aisle,
because
some
funding
was
up
in
the
air
during
budget
time
and
several
of
us
on
both
sides
of
the
aisle
worked
together
and
got
that
in
the
budget
to
make
sure
this
valuable
program
continued,
and
I-
and
I
agree
it
is
a
political
it
is.
This
is
nothing
partisan
about
this.
This
is
a
sound
investment
that
has
a
proven
benefit,
percentage-wise
and
personal
wise,
and
so
I
I
thank
you
for
the
work
you're
doing.
G
I
thank
you
for
our
educators,
including
representative
haston's
mom,
and
you
know
I
would
just
encourage
the
committee
members
who
don't
know
about
this
program
to
please
take
the
time
to
learn
more
about
it
and
work
to
bring
it
to
your
county
if
it's
not
already
there,
because
all
these
gold
counties
and
these
red
counties
deserve
the
benefits
of
jtg
and
the
money
is
100
worth
it.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank.
A
F
G
F
Serve
about
600
seniors
and
then
there's
12-month
follow-up,
and
we
had
about
700
in
follow-up,
so
you
could
say
1300
in
the
total
program,
because
we
do
track
them
from
june
of
their
right
after
graduation
until
may,
once
a
month
check
on
them
to
make
sure
they're
buying
the
books
getting
their
scholarships
getting
the
job,
getting
a
better
job,
leaving
a
job
with
dignity,
so
I'd
say
about
1
300..
Now
this
program
can
be
scaled
very
quickly.
F
It
was
done
in
indiana
from
about
eight
programs
to
150
during
governor
pence's
time
there,
and
so
it
it's
not
as
if
it
can't
be
scaled
quickly,
and
I
can
tell
you
and
because
we've
met
before
you
know
targeting
haywood
we
are,
we
are
blue
oval
rific,
I
mean
there's
those
those
donut
counties
as
well.
If
we
could
get
this
program
in
there
to
create
a
workforce
with
those
that
don't
necessarily
want
to
go
to
a
four-year
school,
I
think
this
is
absolutely
the
time
to
strike.
So
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
G
F
It
is
a
one
credit
course,
general
elective
that
was
unanimously
approved
by
the
board
of
education
back
in
2016.,
endorsed
by
the
department
of
education.
We
are
a
third
party
vendor
with
them
and
it
all
depends
on
the
delivery
system,
the
schedule,
the
curriculum
of
the
high
school.
There
are
some
high
schools
where
they're
on
block
schedule,
so
our
hickman
county
specialist
does
east
hickman
one
semester
and
hickman
county
the
second
semester.
F
That's
just
the
way
it
has
to
work
there.
So
it's
a
condensed
program.
Does
it
still
have
a
great
effect?
F
Yes,
it
does
so
we
do
it
either
in
semesters,
it's
really
better
to
have
it
the
full
year.
So
you
can
kind
of
take
some
time.
Do
a
deeper
dive
into
the
competencies,
do
more
project-based
learning,
so
optimum,
it's
august
through
may,
but-
and
we
also
have
multi-year
programs
if
there's
a
school
superintendent.
That
truly
believes
this
should
hit
earlier.
We
absolutely
have
the
jag
model
for
that.
What
was
inherited
to
me
in
2014
was:
it
was
a
senior
only
with
12-month
follow-up.
A
Thank
you
and
I'm
sitting
here
putting
pieces
together
too
you're
the
on
the
front
of
the
brochure
says
the
mission
to
identify
students
who
face
barriers
to
graduation
identify
them
on
the
early
before
they
graduate.
I
know
we
had
we've
had
bills
in
the
past
and
we
have
tennessee
promise.
So
we
spent
a
lot
of
money
there,
but
we
have
trouble
keeping
them
in
once
because
there
are
barriers,
so
we
can
identify
it
on
the
high
school
years.
We
may
not
have
to
spend
the
money
on
the
after
high
school
years.
F
One
example
of
that
representative
clemens
was
was
good
to
point
out
twelve
hundred
dollars
preventative.
We
actually
ran
a
few
years
ago.
We
were
granted
an
out-of-school
wioa
grant
because
the
money
flipped
from
weah
to
wioa
to
out-of-school
programs.
Well,
we
graduate
folks
we're
an
in-school
program.
They
actually
accepted
out
of
a
workforce
alliance
in
clarksville
and
I'm
grateful,
but
we
ran
a
program
to
graduate
eight
dropouts
and
the
cost
per
program
per
student
to
get
there
and
earn
their
high
set
was
more
than
3
500.
F
Now
do
you
want
to
pay
3
500
after
the
fact
where
you
know
they're
ceiling
at
18,
19
20
years
old,
they've
made
bad
decisions.
They've
made
parental
decisions,
I'd
much
rather
pay
it
up
front
at
twelve
hundred
dollars
and
see
that
paid
back
and
have
them
a
taxpayer
most
of
these
students
that
we
we
deal
with
in
august.
They
think
their
potential
is
here.
F
76
percent
of
our
students
believe
they're
going
to
graduate
high
school.
They
don't
even
believe
in
themselves
and
then
in
may
the
light
goes
on.
They
have
a
plan,
they
have
a
mentor
in
their
life
who
follows
them
for
12
months,
their
favorite
teacher,
so
the
preventative
versus
paying
for
it.
After
the
fact,
with
all
that
federal
money
from
we,
I
just
never
understood
it,
and
by
the
way
we
didn't
graduate
eight
people
and
get
their
high
set.
F
A
Absolutely
thank
you
members.
Anyone
else
have
a
comment
of
our
guest.
Well.
Thank
you
very
much.
Remember
this.
These
are
two
programs
that,
as
we
make
decisions
and
legislation
coming
for
us
wants
to
be
aware
of,
so
that
we
can
make
wise
decisions
on
how
we're
spending
state
money
kirk.
May
I
just.
F
Say
I
went
to
butler
so
hoosier
as
well.
Okay,
we
have
a
basketball
program.
Yeah
did
you
know
that.