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House Education Instruction Committee- February 24, 2021- House Hearing Room I
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Good
morning,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
we
are
starting
our
education
instruction
committee
meeting
today
and
we
are
just
a
minute
or
two
late
and
until
we
get
our
act
together,
I
left
my
gavel,
but
so
I'm
gonna
just
tap
on
the
mic.
A
B
Education
instruction
is
now
called
to
order
and
we
have
a
quorum.
So
I
welcome
you
again
on
our
calendar,
our
mark
calendar.
We
just
have
two
things
today
and
our
first
bill
that
will
be
coming
up
is
house
bill
0005
by
representative
warner.
C
B
Thank
you
for
that
explanation.
Members.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
for
the
sponsor?
Yes,
sir,
mr
sam.
C
B
Yes,
sir
representative
sapiki,
your
name
has
been
called.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chairman,
to
answer
your
question
representative.
What
this
bill
does
is
it
doesn't
replace
anything
in
code
at
all,
but
it
identifies
who
is
the
ultimate
responsibility
to
making
sure
our
kids
get
educated
and
we
feel
that
the
locals
at
the
local
level,
understand
their
children
and
can
choose
what's
appropriate
for
them.
C
B
I
haven't
all
right
so
see
anybody
can
do
this
really
so
anyway,
all
right,
we'll
start
over.
Let's,
let's
say
I
house,
we
passed
it
all
right
house
bill
zero,
zero,
five,
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
any
opposed
all
right,
seeing
none
the
house
bill
zero,
zero
five
goes
to
calendar
and
rules.
Thank
you,
representative
warner.
B
E
E
Let
me
say
that
I've
owned
dr
cash
since
2015
when
she
became
the
director
of
schools
in
bradley
county
and
I've
brought
her
a
list
of
accomplishments
and
resume,
and
it's
only
about
four
pages
long
I'll.
Be
glad
to
read
that
into
the
record
if
you'd
like
me
to,
but
I
don't
think
it's
necessary
when
she
became
director
of
schools.
I
was
immediately
impressed
with
the
way
that
she
approached
her
job
and
also
with
the
way
that
she
engaged
with
the
community
in
bradley
county.
E
I
have
seen
her
and
observed
her
to
be
a
strong
decision
maker,
a
visionary,
a
leader,
a
bridge
builder,
with
a
passion
for
making
sure
that
the
students
in
bradley
county
school
system
get
the
best
education
possible
when
the
chamber
of
commerce
and
the
industrial
development
board.
And
I
happened
to
sit
on
the
executive
council,
economic
council
for
the
chamber
of
commerce.
When
we
began
to
recognize
that
our
industrial
base
was
growing
and
we
have
a
new
industrial
park
and
we're
needing
qualified
workers.
E
We
realized
we
had
a
problem
finding
people
to
fill
those
positions.
Dr
cash
became
immediately
engaged
in
solving
the
workforce
development
problem
that,
thankfully
we
we
have
in
bradley
county,
it's
good
to
have
new
economy,
economic
growth
and
new
industries
coming
in,
but
she
engaged
with
that
immediately
and
her
vision
then
brought
bradley
county
the
pi
center.
Some
of
you
have
heard
about
the
pi
center.
You've
heard
me
talk
about
the
pi
center.
E
Dr
cash
is
the
current
superintendent
of
the
year
for
the
professional
educators
association
of
tennessee,
who,
by
the
way,
strongly
endorses
her
nomination
and
dr
cash,
as
I
said,
is
an
exceptional
individual
and
I
am
blessed
to
be
able
to
call
her.
My
friend
and
I
urge
this
committee
to
pass
hjr
82.
Madam
chair.
B
B
All
right
motion
granted.
Thank
you
for
we're
out
of
session.
I'm
hammering
thank
you.
Thank
you,
dr
cash.
For
being
here
did.
Do
any
members
have
any
specific
questions
for
for
dr
cash?
Yes,
representative,
sipiki.
D
G
D
You
very
much
for
that
also
being
on
a
textbook.
Commission,
as
you
know,
is
a
very
daunting
task.
We
have
very,
very
rigorous
and
and
very
high
expectations
of
our
standards
and
our
textbooks.
Can
you
talk
about
that?
A
little
bit.
G
Yes
and
one
of
the
pieces
that
I'd
like
for
everyone
to
know
is
that
this
has
to
be
a
collaborative
effort
among
everybody,
because
we're
educating
the
students
in
tennessee
and
the
material
we
put
in
front
of
them
is
probably
the
most
valuable
thing
we
can
do.
So.
D
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Dr
cash,
congratulations
on
your
nomination
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
all
my
directors
of
schools
speak
very
highly
of
you
and
say
you're
more
than
qualified
and
you'll
do
a
great
job
on
the
board
and
be
a
leader
in
that.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
volunteering
to
serve.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
You're
welcome
representative
sparks.
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
ma'am.
I
wanted
to
ask
I'm
new
on
education
and
I
made
the
comment
about
so
I
get
frustrated
with
watching
the
bickering
and
the
fight
and
it
goes
on,
and
I
know
that
that
we
set
some
high
standards
here
and
I
know
chairman
suppicky
and
commissioner
schwinn
talks
about
moving
the
bar.
F
I
don't
want
to
be
here
next
year
and
the
bar
doesn't
get
moved.
I
don't
want
to
be
here
talking
about
the
same
old
thing.
What
advice
would
you
give
us?
We
have
several
freshmen
here.
I
think
representative
warner
just
passed.
Maybe
his
first
bill.
Congratulations!
What
advice
would
you
give
seasoned
lawmakers
and
freshman
lawmakers?
How
are
we
going
to
move
that
bar
where
we're
not
what
34
38
45,
whatever
the
different
metrics
come
in
on
on
the
reading
comprehension?
G
There
are
a
couple
things.
One
thing
that
I
would
recommend
to
all
of
the
legislators
is
to
be
actively
involved
in
your
in
your
school
systems
to
reach
out
to
your
directors
of
schools.
To
ask
you
know:
can
I
go
see?
What's
in
the
classroom?
Can
I
be
there
to
actually
talk
to
teachers?
That
would
be
one
of
my.
G
My
biggest
suggestions
is
to
keep
that
communication
open
the
my
my
second
thing
was
to
recognize
that
if
you've
got
a
student
who
is,
let's
say
that
they're
two
years
behind
it
takes
much
more
than
one
year
to
get
them
to
the
level
of
proficiency,
so
teachers,
educators,
administrators
directors
of
schools
have
to
put
things
in
place
that
allow
that
time
to
address
those
those
specific
students,
but
we
also
can't
forget
that
we
don't
have
to
accelerate
students,
so
we
have
to
put
those
in
place
too.
So
what
we?
G
What
I
highly
suggest
is
the
material
that
you
vet
has
to
be
high
quality,
but
we
also
need
to
remember
that
we're
scaffolding,
children,
so
you
can't
it's
hard
to
take
a
child
who
is
two
or
three
years
below
and
put
them
right
on
grade
level,
so
you
should
be
teaching
them
grade
level
material
with
the
whole,
but
then
you're
breaking
up
and
building
those
bridges
to
get
them
up,
which
does
take
more
time.
It
also
takes
quality
instruction,
quality,
material
and
quality
teachers,
so
the
training
that
goes
in
there
happens
to
be
well.
G
I
would
love
to
tell
you
you're
going
to
see
this
big
jump,
but
it
typically
takes
two
to
three
up
to
five
years
to
see
the
increment
you'll
see
it
should
see
incremental
jumps,
but
the
big
jumps
it
takes
times,
because
you're
changing
process
processes
and
systems
in
tennessee
we've
done
a
great
job.
I
won't
say
great.
Let
me
take
that
back.
I
apologize.
We've
done
a
good
job
with
response
to
intervention,
but
we've
also
gotten
bogged
down
in
the
response
to
intervention
to
where
we
keep
doing
the
same
thing
over
and
over
we're.
G
Not
seeing
those
students
move
and
progress,
I
appreciate
the
bill
that
was
just
passed.
That
does
give
the
local
level
say.
This
is
not
working
for
this
kid,
so
I'm
going
to
go
over
here
and
I'm
going
to
do
this.
It's
the
analysis
of
the
benchmark
assessments.
Where
is
this
kid,
and
what
do
I
have
to
do
and
to
give
districts
the
opportunity
to
have
some
flexibility
with
that
is
huge,
but
to
also
hold
us
accountable
for?
Are
you
really
moving
these
students?
G
What
else
do
you
have
in
place,
rather
than
the
typical
curriculum,
but
the
base
curriculum,
and
I
will
always
say
this-
your
foundational
based
curriculum
that
is
taught
in
the
classroom
with
all
of
those
students
with
those
kids
has
to
be
strong.
If
that
foundational
curriculum
is
weak,
you're
not
going
to
move
kids
because
that's
the
whole
and
then
you're
moving
to
pull
out.
What
do
I
need
to
accelerate
kids?
G
F
Going
back
on
representative
warner's
legislation
earlier
when
you
have
a
troubled
youth:
where
is
the
intervention
there,
because
one
of
the
areas
that
I'm
seeing
an
uptick
in
from
teachers
from
administrators
and
others
just
the
day
higher
ed
mentioned?
This
is
the
mental
health
areas.
Where
is
that
intervention
there
for
for
that
student
that
may
be
having
home
issues?
F
G
I
would
say
you
have
pockets
that
are
meeting
it
better
than
others,
because
they
have
more
access
to
community
health,
but
I
will
also
tell
you
them
the
person
that
makes
the
biggest
difference
in
the
life
of
a
child
is
the
teacher
in
the
classroom.
So
if
those
teachers
can
build
that
relationship
with
them
and
they
get
to
have
those
one-on-one
conversations
with
the
students,
so
they
can
find
what
is
going
on
at
home
what
is
happening?
And
then
you
go
to
your
counselors.
G
It's
still
that
collaborative
effort
and
if
in
the
school
system,
if
we
cannot
manage
that,
then
we
need
to
have
those
outside
agencies.
In
I
know
a
lot
of
our
school
systems
use
mental
health
facilities
that
are
already
in.
We
have
cooperative
agreements
with
them
where
they're
seeing
our
children.
I
think
it
has
to
be
intentional.
I
think
you
have
to
recognize
that
there
are
students
that
are
not
coming
in
from
homes
that
are
whole.
We,
we
just
had
an
incident
this
week
where
it's
a
middle
schooler
parents
are
incarcerated.
G
The
aunt
has
the
child,
the
child
doesn't
have
direction
so
you've
got
to
have
those
scalable
pieces
in
there
to
lift
that
student
up,
but
at
the
same
time
not
diminishing
the
education.
That's
happening
in
the
regular
classroom
so
and
people
may
truly
disagree
with
me,
but
I
think
sometimes
those
students
being
out
to
get
the
mental
health
that
they
need
before
we
can
actually
pour
into
them
on
the
educational
level.
G
If
you're,
distressed
and
you've
got
trauma
in
your
life
and
someone's
trying
to
teach
you
about
commas,
that's
not
gonna
work,
but
if
they
know
hey
in
15
minutes,
I
can
go
see
my
guidance
counselor.
Then
you're
going
to
get
more
bang
for
your
buck.
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
with
that.
I
think
that
we
are
moving
in
the
right
direction.
Just
to
say
we
recognize
it.
The
trauma-informed
work
is
good
work.
It's
just.
We've
got
to
figure
out
the
processes
and
procedures
for
all
districts.
Yes,
thank
you.
B
You're
doing
fine,
dr
cash.
Next
on
the
list
we
have
chairman
reagan.
H
H
We
have
had
bills
that
we
passed
relative
to
civics
education
as
well
as
character
education
that
the
needle
has
not
moved
if
you
will
at
least
discernibly
for
us
and
the
complaints
that
have
come
to
me
personally
from
several
places
across
the
state
had
to
do
with
the
materials
that
were
put
out
there
for
them
to
use
in
that
category.
So,
from
the
perspective
of
the
textbook
commission
and
the
approval
process,
how
do
you
see
that
being
addressed.
G
Chairman
reagan,
are
you
referring
to
supplemental
material
or
material?
That's
put
out
there
for
the
students.
H
Yes,
supplemental
material,
and
for
that
matter,
several
parents
that
I
have
received
input
from
have
expressed
complaints
over
the
ineffectiveness.
If
that's
the
right
word
of
civics
materials
and,
frankly
my
visits
to
schools,
I've
asked
students.
Some
rather
pointed
questions
about
how
their
government
operates
and
they
they
were
not
sufficiently
knowledgeable
enough
to
tell
me
so.
Civics
is
one
issue,
but
the
character
development
which
we
already
have
state
standards,
for,
I
will
point
out,
is
another.
G
Well,
by
statute,
the
textbook
commission
does
have
groups
that
review
that
material
that
have
to
be
content
specific,
so
that
helps
because
you're
working
with
people
content
specific
and
taking
their
expertise,
while
at
the
same
time
matching
those
standards
from
the
tennessee
state
standards.
So
that
has
to
be
a
marriage.
G
It
has
to
be
done
well,
so
you've
got
to
really
vet
the
people
who
are
reviewing
that
when
you're
talking
about
the
civics
one
of
the
pieces
that
I
know,
if
you,
if
you
add
more
and
more
and
more,
that
has
to
be
done
in
the
schools.
It's
more
now
add
this
now
add
this
now
and
this
something
else
has
to
go.
G
So
if,
in
my
opinion,
if
you,
if
we
really
want
to
teach
the
civics
portion
correctly,
it
needs
to
be
embedded
in
in
the
content
that
is
already
being
used
in
the
classrooms,
not
something
totally
separate.
It's
fine
to
have
a
civics
test,
but
to
have
in
in
their
g.
We
we
haven't
broken
down
before
they
graduate.
G
I
would
embed
it
into
the
social
studies
curriculum
that
already
has
to
be
there
that
way,
you're
not
adding
it's
just
enriching.
What
is
already
taught.
B
Welcome
all
right
next
on
our
list
is
representative
warner.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
read
cursive
writing
representative
chair
lady
weaver.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
lady,
linda
director,
miss
cash.
Thank
you
so
much
for
coming.
I
appreciate
what
you
bring
to
the
table.
I
Your
resume
is
miles
long,
and
I
really
appreciate
you
seeing
the
need
for
this
very
important
new
chapter
you're
making,
and
I
am
just
excited
to
be
able
to
see
the
good
stuff
that's
going
to
happen.
I
You
know
back,
I
guess
it
was
in
2015,
I'm
not
sure
I
was
here
when
we
actually
put
into
law
the
textbook
commission
and
one
of
the
main
things
and
then
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
sit
on
this
committee
is
my
passion
and
heart
for
content,
and
when
I
go
to
my
schools
and
speak
with
my
directors
and
teachers,
I
always
that's
the
conversation.
I
have.
What
exactly
is
being
taught
in
the
textbooks
content
is
king.
I
I
My
goal
on
this
committee
is
to
make
us
exceptional,
so
when
people
come
to
tennessee,
they
know
their
children
are
going
to
be
taught
the
best
content,
and
if
you
don't
like
what
we
teach
in
tennessee,
there's
49
other
states,
you
can
go
check
them
out,
but
all
that
being
said
is
and
to
my
colleagues,
point
enriching.
I
That
content
is
important
and
I
know
how
I
know
you're
great,
for
this
job
is
because
you
already
have
that
conversation
with
your
teachers
and
your
principals
in
in
bentley
county,
and
we
have
talked
about
that
and
that
communication
is
important.
In
fact,
I've
we've
had
conversation
where
some
stinky
content
has
come
through
and
you
and
your
teachers
and
your
principals
decide.
We
ain't
going
to
teach
that-
and
I
love
that
about
you.
I
I
The
one
other
thing
I
wanted
to
ask
you
is,
I
also
we
have
had
issues
with
department
and
agencies
kind
of
getting
out
of
their
sandbox
and
getting
into
your
sandbox
or
the
textbook
commission
sandbox,
and
I
just
want
to-
and
I
know
you
will
do
this,
but
I
say
this
to
you-
and
I
say
this
to
whoever
else
gets
appointed
on
this
commission-
is
that
you
stand
your
guard
and
be
watchmen
on
the
wall
and
do
not
be
intimidated
by
a
department
to
come
in
and
try
to
take
your
mission
statement
away
from
you,
because
I
intend
to
work
on
that
in
some
legislation
that
you
will
not.
I
G
Thank
you.
I
I
will
just
to
frame
that
a
little
bit
for
reference.
I
raised
three
boys
that
I
had
my
thumb
on
them.
Most
of
the
time
that
I
hear
things
they
did
now
that
I'm
like.
How
did
you
do
that?
I
would
be
watching
every
move
you
made.
I
thought
so
from
from
that
being
intimidated
is
not
something
that
is
is
a
part
of
who
I
am.
G
I
was
also
raised
on
a
farm
with
my
grandparents,
so
you
you
get
the
job
done
and
if
and
that
that's
where
we
stand-
and
I
think
the
stakes
are
too
high
for
our
students
in
tennessee
to
not
do
the
right
thing.
I
And
and
again
I
really
appreciate
I
know
that,
there's
stuff
coming
down
the
pike
concerning
content
that
I
will
fight
vehemently
to
not
allow
it
in
our
classrooms.
I
But
again,
I
really
feel
that
the
people
we
have
on
this
board
are
are
going
to
do
their
job,
and
I
appreciate
you
taking
taking
a
step
forward
and
answering
the
call
it's
it's
an
honor
to
have
you.
Thank
you.
G
At
just
some
closing
comments,
one
I
do
feel
like
this
is
a
privilege,
and
I
take
it
very
seriously
that
you
have
appointed
me
and
supported
me
in
this
role
as
we
meet
and
begin
to
unravel
this,
we
we
will,
you
know,
do
our
very
best
to
be
sure
that
we
are
following
what
the
state
of
tennessee
has
required
us
to
do,
and
one
is
that
very
definite,
age-appropriate
material
and
content.
G
I
also
want
to
say
that
it
is
a
privilege
for
me,
because
I
have
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
other
people,
other
districts,
other
teachers,
that
I
can
get
that
kind
of
input
on
and
being
able
to
have
those
advisory
groups
that
we
can
depend
on
that
are
one
requirement.
Is
that
a
teacher
be
on
there?
So
I
think
that,
as
we
move
forward
through
this,
I
think
it
it.
G
B
Thank
you
so
much.
I
believe,
we're
in
good
hands
all
right
members
we're
back
in
session.
Oh,
I
do
have
it
now
back
in
session
of
any
other
we're
done
with
this
business.
Thank
you.
We
have
a
question
on
the
bill.
So
now
we
will
vote
on
accepting
the
nomination
of
dr
linda
cash
to
the
textbook
commission.
B
B
Thank
you
so
much.
We
appreciate
you
chairman,
well
members.
That
brings
us
to
a
close
of
the
business
before
us
today.
Thank
you.
I
hear
a
motion
to
adjourn
all
in
favor.
All
right,
we'll
be
back
next
week
same
time
same.