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House Finance, Ways and Means Committee- February 1, 2022- House Hearing Room 1
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It
comes
from
tenco,
that's
the
advocacy
organization
that
works
with
the
dsps
and
for
any
of
you,
have
watched
this
committee
for
any
length
of
time
or
watched
our
work
on
the
floor.
You
know
that
that
has
been
a
strong
commitment.
It's
one
thing.
We
look
at
this
budget.
We
look
at
at
numbers,
but
I
think
it
is
a
good
reminder
to
know
that
behind
these
numbers
there
are
real
people,
real
tennesseans,
who
are
impacted
whose
lives
are
changed
by
the
decisions
that
we
made
here.
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C
My
name
is
betty
nelson.
I
work
for
journey
in
community
living.
I've
been
here
15
years
a
full
time,
and
then
I
went
part
time
so
it'd
be
two
years
part-time.
The
extra
income,
it's
a
big.
It
makes
you
feel
more
appreciative
when
you
come
to
work
when
the
cost
of
living
go
up
or
you
can
do
things
that
you
couldn't
do
it
first
and
to
make.
You
feel
good
about
your
job
when
you
come
that
you
know
that
somebody
is
appreciating
us
for
what
we
do.
C
I'm
tara
connor
I
work
for
serve
and
serves
as
a
company
where
we
assist
people
with
disabilities.
Dsps
are
very
important
because
we
have
people
who
are
in
the
company.
You
have
some
who
have
family
members,
but
you
also
have
some
who
don't
have
family
members
and
as
dsps
we
become
sometimes
we
become
to
them.
We're
family
that
love
that
we
give
and
that
support
that
we
give
to
them
is
much
needed.
C
You
know
everybody
needs
that
in
their
lives
in
order
for
them
to
live
the
meaningful
life
they
need
somebody
to
come
in
and
assist
them
with
that,
and
so
it's
important
that
we
have
dsps.
So
the
raids
itself
can
show
people
that
we
we
need
you
in
this
community
and
we're
willing
to
pay
you
what
we
need
to
pay
you
for
you
to
come
out
to
help
support
the
people
that
need
the
help.
D
D
I've
been
with
clyde
for
about
seven
years.
I
have
two
children.
Three
beautiful
grandchildren
clyde
actually
comes
home
with
me
for
the
holidays
and
knows
my
family
very
well
to
go
in
and
work
in
a
factory
you're
lying
in
somebody
else's
pockets
here
doing
the
job
that
we
do.
All
we
do
is
make
their
day
better.
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B
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
I
would
submit
to
you
that
the
people
that
we
just
saw
are
true
heroes
in
the
states.
So
again
we
are
so
indebted
to
those
folks
who
take
care
of
our
most
vulnerable
citizens
in
the
state,
and
I
am
so
proud
of
what
we've
been
able
to
do
to
help
those
who
help
others
lives
to
be
better,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
commissioner
publicly
and
the
governor,
because
one
of
the
most
exciting
things
in
this
budget
for
me
was
that
it
includes
another
raise
for
those
very
deserving
folks.
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E
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
chair
hazelwood
and
members
of
the
committee.
I
am
butch
ealy
with
fna
and
with
me
here
today
is
our
budget
director
dave
thurman,
our
assistant
budget
director
alex
schumann,
and
it's
honor
to
be
here
with
you
today
to
talk
about
the
governor's
proposed
fiscal
year,
23
budget.
E
E
But
as
we
all
know,
this
has
been
a
tumultuous
couple
years
and
when
we
see
people
like
this,
we're
reminded
of
of
of
really
what
people
are
facing
day
in
and
day
out
and
have
been
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
So
I
believe
telling
the
story
of
really
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
today
is
helpful
context
for
talking
about
where
we're
headed
in
the
future,
and
so
I'm
gonna
take
a
little
bit
of
time.
E
Talking
about
the
background
of
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
I
want
to,
I
want
to
start
with
reminding
us.
I
did
this
last
year
that
we
are
ranked
number
one
in
the
nation
for
long-term
fiscal
stability,
and
it's
not
just
happenstance
that
we
got
here.
It's
not
something
that
the
governor
or
a
commissioner
can
do
alone.
E
It's
really
a
testament
to
the
great
working
relationship
between
the
executive
and
legislative
branches
to
provide
that
sound
financial
management
that
the
oversight
of
this
this
committee
and
this
body
has
has
given
over
the
years
what
we're.
What
we're
proposing
today
is
a
fiscally
conservative
budget,
but
it's
also
a
budget
that
that
helps
people
in
tennessee
that
you've
seen
here
today.
E
The
first
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
some
of
the
things
that
are
facing
us
today
that
we
that
we
didn't
face
last
year,
I'm
gonna
kind
of
start
this
economic
story
by
showing
a
chart
that
I
found
helpful
and
it's
it's
a
it's
a
slide
that
legislative
fiscal
review
staff
presented.
This
past
fall
at
the
funding
board
meeting
and
it
depicts
the
consumer
price
index
from
2008
until
through
this
past
year,
as
you
can
see,
there's
been
a
dramatic
increase
in
cpi
since
the
recession
of
2020..
E
It's
no
surprise
to
anyone
here,
but
it's
it's.
What
all
tennesseans
have
been
facing
here
this
this
past
few
months
in
the
sharp
increase
of
prices
of
everything.
This
is
a
slide
from
dr
fox
from
ut's
center
for
business
and
economic
development.
I
know
everybody
here
knows
dr
fox,
but
you
can
see
here.
The
revenue
growth
remains
strong,
and
so
we've
certainly
seen
our
revenue
collections
coming
in
over
this
past
year
be
very
strong,
and
this.
E
This.
This
is
an
interesting
slide
as
well.
That
comes
from
dr
fox
that
shows
the
normal
distribution
of
sales,
tax
growth
that
goes
from
the
period
of
2011
to
2019,
and
you
can
see
here
how
predictable
those
bars
are
that
shows
the
durable
goods,
non-durable
goods
and
services
between
those
critical
categories.
E
If
you
look
here,
though,
this
is
the
same
categories
between
2019
and
2021,
and
you
see
here
the
extraordinary
purchasing
during
this
time,
especially
in
durable
goods,
and
this
is
important
to
us,
because
we
we
really
rely
on
that
very
predictable
cadence
of
purchases
over
a
series
of
years
for
our
revenue
for
our
revenue
growth.
And
so
you
see
here
how
much
durable
goods
are
up
there
in
that
center
bar
and
things
like
cars,
boats
or
rvs
or
any
of
those
durable
goods.
That
are
things
that
we
don't
purchase
every
year.
E
Some
of
you
were
able
to
to
participate
or
to
see
the
funding
board
meeting
this
past
november.
It
was
very
helpful
to
us,
as
we
put
together
the
budget
and
helped
inform
us
hearing
from
the
economists
that
we
have
here
in
the
state
in
the
federal
reserve
is
always
helpful,
and
so
I've
got
a
couple
of
clips.
I
I
want
to
help
set
the
tone
if
you
were
not
able
to
be
in
that,
and
so
this
is
dr
fox.
C
E
E
So
this
shows
as
you
as
you
can
see
what
we've
had
recently
in
the
last
year
or
so
those
blue
bars,
and
then
you
can
see
what
fiscal
review
has
forecast
for
for
for
this
year
for
the
remainder
of
this
year
or
part
of
this
year,
and
it
certainly
shows
a
downturn
in
that
in
that
growth
rate
and
something
that
I
believe
is
probably
pretty
on
target
here.
Here's
fiscal
review
at
that
at
that
funding
board
meeting
with
a
quick
clip.
F
I'm
certainly
more
confident
and
in
the
current
fiscal
year
number
they're
just
looking
at
the
way
tax
revenues
have
been
coming
in
year
to
date,
I'm
very
confident
going
into
next
year.
I
think
there's
you
know,
as
we
keep
saying,
there's
much
more
uncertainty
of
what's
going
to
happen
with
inflation.
What's
going
to
happen
with
the
labor
force,
participation.
E
So
he
is
he's
talking
there
remember
this
was
in
november,
and
so
he's
he's
talking
about
fiscal
year,
22
being
comfortable
with
the
the
growth
rates
and
that
they
were
predicting,
but
he's
saying
in
the
next
year
that
we've
got
a
lot
more
volatility
in
those
numbers
last.
This
is
the
last
quick
clip
another.
C
And
I'll
I'll
admit,
I
don't
know
when
that's
going
to
take
place.
I
wish
I
could
just
sit
here
and
say
it's
going
to
be
on
this
day.
What
I
do
expect
is
going
to
happen.
People
are
going
to
re,
revert
to
consumption
levels
that
are
more
in
line
with
their
income
levels
and
and
at
that
point
we're
going
to
see
tax.
E
So
that
is
a
that's
a
that's
a
quick,
that's
a
quick
reminder
of
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
and
kind
of
what
has
been
shaping
our
thinking
over
this
last
year.
In
these
last
few
months,
as
we
developed
this
budget
nearly
two
years
ago,
collaborating
with
this
committee
and
in
the
legislature
we
embarked
on
a
multi-year
plan
to
prepare
for
weathering
whatever
storm
came
our
way,
and
there
were
two
major
components.
E
There
were
a
number
of
pieces
to
that
plan,
but
two
major
components
were
we're:
limiting
our
growth
and
the
speed
of
our
growth
and
in
preserving
cash.
For
for
what
we
knew
that
we
might
need
to
do,
and
that
plan
certainly
has
worked.
The
actions
that
that
we
took
in
the
last
two
years
have
been
fruitful.
E
The
hiring
freeze
that
we
did
at
the
beginning,
vacancy
reductions,
pulling
back
on
recurring
growth,
have
proven
wise.
We're
now
comfortable,
though,
being
able
to
move
forward
in
proposing
some
very
strategic
investments
that
continue
to
be
able
to
return
to
the
pre-pandemic
priorities
and
initiatives
that
the
governor
was
looking
forward
to
a
couple
years
ago.
E
Investing
in
what
works
and
focusing
on
outcomes
for
all
tennesseans,
so,
as
I
present
here
before
you
today,
we're
definitely
in
a
much
more
favorable
position,
but
still,
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
good
lesson
for
us
to
continue
with
this
multi-year
mentality,
not
from
the
standpoint
of
a
balanced
budget.
We
certainly
have
that
balanced
budget,
but
a
plan
to
ensure
that
we
know
what
the
new
normal
is
from
a
revenue
standpoint
as
we
move
forward
in
the
budgeting
process.
E
E
It's
also
made
up
of
over
collections
from
fiscal
year
21,
as
well
as
including
collections
that
we're
receiving
in
this
current
fiscal
year
that
are,
over
and
above
the
funding
board,
estimates
that
that
we
previously
estimated
so
we'll
be
we'll
be
going
through
the
cost
cost
increases
in
a
moment.
But
what
you
see
here
on
this
chart,
we
are
deliberately
ensuring
that
more
than
1.3
billion
of
recurring
revenue
is
allocated
to
one-time
expenditures.
E
That
is
a
very
significant
thing.
I
think
last
year
was
the
first
year
that
we
used
this
this
this
mechanism
or
this
concept
allowing
the
return
of
this
1.3
to
come
back
into
the
budget
next
year
for
review
and
budgeting
next
fiscal
year
with
this
body
and
using
those
funds
in
not
in
a
non-recurring
way.
E
One
thing
that
that
I
continually
remind
our
folks
is
that,
just
because
we
use
these
terms-
and
we
use
the
term
recurring
in
our
budget
process-
certainly
does
not
guarantee
in
any
way
shape
or
form
that
that
that
money
will
definitely
be
recurring
next
year.
And
so
we
we've
always
got
to
be
thinking
through
that
process
and
be
careful
that
that
we
know
and
have
a
level
set
of
what
those
recurring
revenues
might
be.
E
This
next
slide
shows
the
comparison
of
total
budget
looking
year
over
year.
So
you
see
fiscal
year,
22
on
the
left
and
fiscal
year,
23
recommended
on
the
right
about
a
2.5
percent
between
those
years
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
you
see
there
very
clearly
is
in
the
green
is
our
federal
spending,
and
so
that
continues
to
increase
and
is
largely
made
up
of
the
federal
funds
that
we've
been
receiving
in
federal
stimulus
due
to
the
pandemic.
E
All
of
this
all
these
dollars
and
the
spending
is,
is
going
through
the
the
financial
stimulus
accountability
group.
It's
made
up
of
of
members
of
the
legislature
as
well
as
the
governor
and
myself
and
the
constitutionals,
and
so
for
that
to
work
its
way
through
the
departments
and
the
departments
have
multiple
years
to
spend
those
funds.
E
Now
in
this,
in
this
last
set
of
funding,
that's
come
through
and
so
it'll
be
it'll,
be
a
few
years
before
we
work
our
way
back
down
to
where
that
federal
spending
funding
goes
back
to
what
it
was
prior
to
the
pandemic,
and
I
also
just
mentioned
fyi
that
on
the
on
the
fna
website,
you
can
go
on
at
any
time,
24
7
and
there's
a
link
there.
That
shows
all
of
that
federal
spending
funding
and
what
it's
being
used
for.
So
anyone
can
do
that
at
any
time
in
fiscal
year
23.
E
You
can
also
see
that
the
state
funding
bumps
up
from
22-
and
this
is
a
combination
of
both
increase
in
recurring
funding
and
mainly
non-recurring
dollars-
that
we're
in
a
position
to
now
allocate
after
holding
back
on
growth
as
we
did.
It
also
represents
the
increased
revenue
collections
that
we've
seen
that
we
spoke
about
earlier.
E
So
now,
let's
kind
of
get
down
to
some
of
the
nitty-gritty
of
the
areas
of
spending.
I'm
gonna
go
through
some
targeted
investments
in
different
areas.
It's
important
to
remember
that
this
is
this
is
not
an
exhausted
list.
All
of
you
have
the
total,
the
total
budget
and
the
total
list.
But
here
are
some
items
of
interest
and
we
can
discuss.
E
E
E
E
What
this,
what
this
allows
for
is
for
every
high
school
and
every
combination
school
to
receive
around
a
million
dollars
in
career
and
technical
grants
to
those
schools
and
approximately
500
000.
That
would
go
to
middle
schools
to
help
purchase
new
equipment
and
set
up
those
schools
for
those
to
be
able
to
teach
those
areas.
E
E
We
learned
this
through
the
the
flooding
in
waferly
recently
and
learned
that
there
were
actually
14
schools
that
had
previously
be
been
built
in
such
a
zone,
and
so
we're
going
to
help
help
those
districts
be
able
to
locate
those
schools
and
and
make
sure
that
we
do.
That
and
so
we're
we've
set
aside
200
million
dollars
toward
being
able
to
do
that
in
this
budget.
We're
also
proposing
125
million
dollar
investment
to
the
salary
component
of
instructional
staff,
recognizing
the
outstanding
work
that
is
being
done
day-to-day
and
day
out.
E
We
believe
firmly
that
the
success
of
students
in
our
institutions
of
higher
learning
is
directly
proportional
and
correlating
to
our
state's
future
economic
development.
You
heard
the
governor
last
night
addressed
this
and
say
that
he
fully
anticipates
that
this
will
result
in
a
zero
percent
tuition
increase
at
each
of
our
public
institutions
of
higher
education.
E
We
can
do
this
because
the
tennessee
promise
reserves
have
now
grown
enough
so
that
the
earnings
will
exceed
the
program
cost
by
almost
15
million
dollars
in
fiscal
year
24
after
making
these
changes
to
the
hope.
Scholarship
amounts
that
that
the
governor
is
proposing
also
part
of
that
investment
is
250
million
dollars
to
tennessee
state
university
for
fiscal
infrastructure
improvements.
E
The
state
investment
paired
with
investment
from
tsu
that
includes
a
strong
and
consistent
maintenance
plan
will
help
us
ensure
that
our
public
hbcu
continues
attracting
and
retaining
top
talent
for
careers
that
will
help
propel
tennessee
forward
to
ensure
we
have
the
learning
environments
for
tomorrow's
careers.
We're
also
proposing
the
largest
strategic
capital
investment
in
history.
E
As
you
will
recall,
we
begin
funding
that
this
current
fiscal
year,
and
this
is
a
center
that
will
grow
tennessee's
talent,
pipeline
for
scientists
and
engineers,
focusing
on
advanced
materials
and
quantum
computing.
Remember.
This
center
also
is
being
matched
seven
dollars
for
every
dollar
of
our
state
investment
and,
finally,
we're
recommending
50
million
dollars
toward
100
million
dollars
in
research.
Funding
at
the
university
of
memphis.
This
one-to-one
match
fund
will
ensure
an
r1
designation
in
each
of
our
four
each
of
our
three
grand
divisions
across
the
state.
E
E
Let
me
talk
briefly
about
the
rainy
day
and
other
liability
reductions.
This
is
a
major
investment
as
well,
while
many
states,
as
you
know,
are
struggling
to
meet
their
obligations,
we're
in
a
position
in
proposing
to
transfer
over
600
million
dollars
in
this
budget
to
reduce
our
pension
and
insurance
liability.
These
will
be
one
time,
one-time
cost.
That
will
that
we
will
reduce
in
these
both
of
these
plans
and
during
our
multi-year
plan.
E
In
addition
to
that,
you
will
recall
we
authorized
221
million
dollars
in
bonds
as
part
of
our
effort
to
hold
back
cash
in
case
we
needed
it.
We
now
find
ourselves
in
a
position
that
we
can
cover
those
costs
cover.
Instead
of
doing
bonds,
we
can
pay
for
those
projects
with
cash
and
so
we're
proposing
to
replace
the
potential
bond
outlay
with
the
cash
outlay
for
that
221
million
dollars.
E
E
A
few
highlights
you've
heard
the
governor,
say,
time
and
again,
hospitals
and
our
providers
that
we
saw
some
of
earlier
have
been
great
partners
throughout
this
pandemic.
Helping
those
citizens
most
in
need
we're
ensuring
that
our
hospitals,
our
public
hospitals,
receive
funding
for
uncompensated
care,
helping
them
serve
more
tennesseans
throughout
the
state.
E
We're
also
proposing
over
90
million
dollars
in
provider
rate
increases
acknowledging
that
our
services
are
only
as
good
as
our
extraordinary
partners,
and
we
certainly
want
to
help
them,
strengthen
their
existing
networks
and
our
networks
to
help
us
recruit
more
primary
care
providers
and
permit
greater
access
for
tennesseans
to
get
a
health
to
get
ahead
of
the
health
curve.
We're
proposing
18
million
dollars
for
an
additional
150
primary
care
residents.
E
We
want
to
help
train
them
here.
We
certainly
want
to
help
keep
them
here,
as
they
go
into
their
profession
to
aid
in
increasing
the
dental
health
of
our
citizens,
which
has
a
direct
correlation
to
increased
overall
health,
as
well
as
livelihoods,
we're
making
a
multi-year
commitment
to
recruit
and
retain
more
high-quality
dental
providers
to
our
state,
at
the
same
time,
we're
proposing
to
add
dental
benefits
for
adults
on
tenncare,
which
will
cover
an
additional
610
000
tennesseans
for
those
services,
we're
also
proposing
over
55
million
dollars
for
pathways
to
independence
programs.
E
We
also
believe
that
enactment
of
these
services
will
help
these
individuals
remain
off
the
medicaid
roles.
Finally,
as
this
body
knows,
teis,
which
you
all
are
all
familiar
with,
our
early
intervention
program
at
didd
is
a
critical
program
that
provides
services
to
children
ages,
birth
up
to
three
years
old.
E
E
The
governor's
budget
proposes
adding
100
new
trooper
positions
to
better
serve
tennesseans
and
ensure
greater
coverage
areas
around
the
state
and
also
to
respond
to
requests
for
assistance
more
quickly
to
better
assist
with
crime
investigations.
We're
proposing
the
largest
ever
one-time
increase
in
tbi,
adding
20
agents
for
cyber
investigations,
human
trafficking
in
the
narcotics
division,
as
well
as
30
forensic
scientists
for
the
labs
that
are
much
needed.
E
Our
troopers
and
tbi
agents,
though,
cannot
do
their
job
alone.
They
depend
on
strong
local
law
enforcement
across
tennessee
to
help
carry
out
their
mission.
To
that
end,
we're
proposing
additional
hiring
funding
for
local
communities
to
recruit
and
retain
the
best
for
law
enforcement
positions
to
better
serve
all
those
safety
related
personnel
from
across
our
state.
We're
also
recommending
to
centralize
our
training
to
provide
our
officers
and
staff
with
the
highest
possible
instruction
and
training
possible.
E
This
will
be
done
through
the
multi-agency
law
enforcement
training
academy,
which
will
be
located
in
our
state-owned
property
out
at
cockrell
bend,
and
it
will
bring
together
all
these
state
agencies
to
work
together
alongside
one
another.
In
keeping
our
communities
safe,
our
cities
and
counties
are
on
the
forefront
of
making
sure
communities
are
safe
to
continue
providing
support
for
our
local
partners.
We're
tailoring
our
state
and
local
community
grant
program
specifically
to
provide
support
to
help
reduce
crime
in
communities
across
the
state.
E
Finally,
it's
vital
for
our
safety
personnel
and
first
responders
to
be
able
to
communicate
with
one
another.
We
unfortunately
have
large
gaps
around
the
state
in
certain
areas
in
our
tennessee
advanced
communications
network
or
tekken
officials.
These
officers
are
often
or
sometimes
unable
to
utilize
the
radio
to
communicate
to
anyone
else.
E
You
heard
me
say
at
the
outset
that
we
were
going
to
go
big
on
one
time
spending.
We
believe
that
capital
is
a
good
investment
to
be
able
to
move
our
state
forward.
We've
had
a
lot
of
deferred
maintenance
over
the
years,
so
we
feel
like
this
is
a
good
investment.
We're
recommending
2.7
billion
dollars
in
capital
improvements
and
capital
maintenance.
E
Our
workforce
in
higher
ed
have
certainly
involved
evolved
during
the
past
two
years,
but,
as
we
know,
there's
still
a
need
for
providing
in-person
services
and
learning
we're
not
proposing
to
invest
in
bricks
and
mortar,
just
because
we
have
the
money
to
do
so,
we're
being
very
deliberate
in
what
we
build
where
we
build
it
and
when
we
build
it
also
for
general
government
we're
upgrading
our
state
park
system.
Many
of
you
are
aware,
or
or
have
seen,
firsthand
significant
deferred
maintenance
over
the
years.
E
We're
making
further
investment
in
our
state
parks
to
improve
the
vistor
experience,
attract
additional
tourism
and
to
expand
our
economic
growth
in
the
rural
communities
where
those
parks
are.
We
need
to
continue
making
our
parks
world-class
and,
as
you
all
know,
they've
we've
had
the
most
visitors
ever
in
our
parks
over
the
last
year
or
so,
and
it's
been
a
great
refuge
for
tennesseans
to
be
able
to
enjoy
we're.
Also
upgrading
and
maintaining
our
veterans
cemeteries.
E
Also,
providing
secure
and
functional
facilities
for
our
military
department,
providing
various
maintenance
and
repairs
to
ensure
the
state's
correctional
facilities
are
safe
and
secure.
I've
already
explained
what
we're
doing
with
law
enforcement
with
melita,
and
you
know
one
thing
we've
certainly
learned,
I
think,
is
that
deferring
maintenance
is
not
a
good
strategy.
E
E
E
It
also
reflects
lessons
learned
from
covid,
for
example,
the
need
for
flexible
space
and
options
for
what
courses
can
and
should
be
offered
in
what
settings.
Our
goal
is
simple:
to
make
strategic
investments
that
will
improve
our
overall
economic
prosperity
while
at
the
same
time
managing
the
life
cycle
of
these
assets.
E
E
E
Acknowledging
these
issues
need
to
be
solved
in
fiscal
year
23,
but
also
recognizing
that
more
work
needs
to
be
done
before
the
final
plans
are
made.
We're
proposing
to
set
aside
funding
for
these
projects
to
ensure
that
resources
are
available
sooner
rather
than
later,
so
that
we
can
proceed
forward
when
the
details
are
worked
out.
I'll
personally,
work
with
this
body,
the
speakers,
a
constitutional
officers
and
members,
the
building
commission
on
these
plans
to
ensure
that
we're
all
working
together
as
these
projects
commence.
E
In
closing,
I
want
to
again
thank
you
for
today
and
the
time
to
be
able
to
spend
on
this
budget.
I
also
want
to
thank
this
committee
for
its
leadership
and
really
more
so,
the
partnership
that
we've
had
together
during
this
last
couple
of
years
during
this
critical
and
challenging
time
I'll
leave
you
with
this
message
on
the
budget.
E
The
budget
that
you
have
before
you
is
fully
balanced.
The
budget
has
zero
debt,
it
prioritizes
one-time
expenses
to
mitigate
those
uncertainties
that
we
discussed
at
the
beginning
of
this
presentation.
It
targets
programs
that
work
that
are
evidence-based
and
more
than
ever
it
invests
in
tennessee,
chairman
hazelwood.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
and
we're
happy
to
answer
questions.
E
B
B
But
when
we
look
at
these
numbers,
my
question
is
a
number
of
these
are
or
fairly
long-term
projects.
You
can't
do
these
major
capital
projects
in
a
year,
and
so
what
inflationary
factor
are
we
using
to
make
sure
that
we
are
actually
budgeting
enough
money
to
bring
the
project
to
completion?
Because
you
know,
as
you
and
I've
talked,
commissioner
billion
dollars
doesn't
buy,
what
it
once
did
and
it's
not
going
to
buy
even
as
much
this
time
next
year.
B
So
just
talk
with
us
about
how
we're
accounting
for
that,
and
also
I
guess,
related
or
just
a
flip
side
of
the
inflationary
issue
is
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
states,
a
lot
of
companies
are
going
to
be
chasing
the
same
supplies.
And
so
you
have
that
scarcity
and
supply
chain
issues.
So
if
you
could
address
that.
E
Well,
it's
it's.
It's
certainly
a
a
good
question
and
I
think
that
we've
already
seen
you
know
just
in
this
past
year-
inflation
fairly
rampant
on
the
construction
side
and
building
side,
and
so
we
don't
know
exactly
what's
going
to
happen.
It's
already
it's
beginning
to
to
tamp
down
some,
but
we
have.
We.
We've
certainly
encouraged
the
department
of
general
services
as
they
bring
these
projects
forward,
to
continue
to
look
at
inflation
and
they
have.
E
They
have
put
inflation
factors
into
all
of
these
numbers
and
then
then,
in
addition
to
inflation,
they
are
also
adding
a
contingency
factor
on
each
of
the
projects
that
they
bring
forward.
I
would
I
would
I
would
say
that
that
would
it'd
be
a
good
question
to
to
pose
to
general
services
to
make
sure
that
you're
able
to
hear
firsthand
from
them
on
the
process
that
they
go
through
to
do
that.
E
But
but
I
will
assure
you
and
we've
been
assured
that
they
are
looking
both
at
inflation
and
making
sure
that
they
put
an
inflation
factor
into
each
one
of
those
estimates
as
well
as
putting
additional
contingency.
On
top
of
that,
just
to
be
able
to
sure
try
to
ensure
that
we
are
prepared
for
what
happens
on
that
front.
C
E
E
We
deliberately
did
not
did
not
put
any
additional
or
any
any
tax
cuts
into
this
really
for
the
reason
that
we
discussed
at
the
beginning
of
this
of
this
presentation,
and
that
is
the
variation.
The
wide
variation
that
we've
seen
in
in
our
tax
collections
over
this
last
year,
or
so
I,
for
I,
for
one,
am,
would
be
a
big
proponent
of
looking
at
tax
cuts.
E
Would
welcome
being
able
to
do
that
and
would
anticipate
that
we
may
be
able
to
do
that
next
year
in
areas
that
wouldn't
make
sense.
As
jer
hazelwood
said,
we
we're
going
to
have
a
billion
three
coming
back
in
next
year
in
into
the
budget
to
be
allocated
next
year,
and
I
think
we'll
have
a
lot
better
sense
next
year.
What
our
level
set
actually
is
on
revenues
and
can
be
able
to
entertain
that
so.
C
E
Yeah,
well,
that's
that's
a
good
question
too.
I
think
that
what
we've
tried
to
do
is
is,
as
you
saw
on
the
chart,
we've
drastically
increased
the
size
of
our
rainy
day
fund
over
the
last
few
years,
and
especially
over
the
last
three
years
since
governor
lee
has
been
here,
there's
a
there's,
a
target
that
the
legislature
posed
for
a
target
to
the
rainy
day
fund
which
this
meets,
and
if,
if
you
compare,
if
you
add
the
additional
funds
for
the
tenncare
reserve,
it
exceeds
it's,
it
exceeds
those.
E
E
G
G
That's
that's
true.
As
chairman
todd
was
referring
to
a
few
moments
ago,
that
that's
amazing
how
true
that
is.
If
I
could
take
us
back
and
somewhat
on
chairman
todd's
points
back
on
slide
14
as
we
are
looking
at
the
budget
document
we
passed,
they
were
currently
and
we
passed
may
of
21,
and
we
we
are.
E
Yeah
we,
we
certainly
will
do
that
as
you
as,
as
you
all
have
pointed
out,
that
number
is
considerably
higher
than
it
was
a
year
ago
when,
when
passed,
and
so
most
of
that
is
certainly
due
to
the
federal
large
amount
of
federal
funds
that
have
come
in,
and
I
know
that
that
those
funds
are
all
on
that
website.
You
want
to.
If
you
want
to
address
this
anymore.
F
G
Thank
you.
If
I
could,
madam
chair
a
couple
more
as
we
move
on
to
page
16
of
the
of
the
slide
presentation
as
well.
My
friends
in
higher
ed
myself
included
were
just
ecstatic,
so
a
lot
of
smiles
in
the
in
the
room
and
rooms
across
the
state.
So
a
tremendous
opportunity
for
us
to
make
some
investments
in
higher
ed
here
as
well.
G
Two
years,
you
know
technology
center,
community
college,
four
year
institution,
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
segment
of
the
population
that
we
may
be
leaving
out
and
if
this
has
been
discussed
or
thought,
you've
got
a
group
of
collegiate
freshmen
and
maybe
some
folks
who
have
had
that
hope.
Scholarship.
One
time
lost
it
after
a
year
and
there's
really
no
incentive
for
them
to
to
buy
that
or
to
to
earn
that
hope.
G
Scholarship
back,
maybe
that's
something
that
we
could
look
at
instead
of
just
writing
off
the
25
20
30
percent
of
the
population
that
losing
his
freshman's
freshman
and
never
come
back
in.
If
we
could
give
some
thought
to
that,
a
potential
earn
back
of
the
hope
scholarship.
I
don't
know
if
that
changes
that
number,
but
but
that's
something
that
I
would
like
to
look
into
and
maybe
discuss
with
some
legislation.
Any
thoughts
on
that
or
well
give
me
the
thought
process
on
increasing
the
the
award
for
hope,
scholarship,
yeah.
E
F
G
F
H
H
H
E
E
There's
multiple
buildings
in
involved
with
the
with
the
complex
itself,
there's
also
the
the
corporate.
I
call
it
the
corporate
the
the
offices
for
the
corrections
department
would
move
from
where
it
is
now.
This
is
a
long-term
long-term
plan
that
they
would.
They
would
move
out
there
to
that
facility.
So
there's
there's
a
it's,
not
a
single
building.
E
E
Having
said
that,
there
were,
there
are
a
number
of
other
other
pieces
of
the
budget
that
are
directly
related
to
doing
what
you're
talking
about
the
grant
program
that
we're
talking
about
that
goes
to
local
governments,
150
million
dollars
in
this
budget,
for
the
exact,
very
purpose
that
you
are
referring
to
also
referring.
We've
got
60
in
that
same
slide:
66
million
dollars
for
supporting
law
enforcement,
hiring
getting
those
right
people
that
you're
talking
about
and
being
able
to
support
that
effort.
E
E
We're
able
to
put
the
the
the
focus
on
being
able
to
be
able
to
build
that
training
facility,
which
has
been
years
in
the
in
the
planning
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
at
the
same
time
continue
to
invest
in
in
fighting
crime,
because,
as
you
pointed
out,
it's
a
very
important
thing
that
we
do
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
H
E
Yeah,
I
I
do
not
think
so.
I
would
have
to
refer
you
to
tdot,
because
they've
got
they've
got
the
specific
projects
we've
got
it
listed
here.
I
don't
think
that
one
of
those
is
connected
to
the
mega
site
when
we
say
that's
a
the
term
that
that
tdot
is
using,
as
relates
to
that
it's,
this
is
not
economic
development
department
ecd.
E
That
is,
that
that
these
projects
are
coming
from
this
is
this
is
tdot
these.
These
are
tdot
projects.
These
are
road
projects
improvement
projects.
Many
of
them
are
throughout
throughout
the
state
that,
when
that
they
are
referring
to
to
simply
say
that
if
we
make
these
improvements,
it
will
enhance
the
environment
for
more
industry
or
more
development
to
be
able
to
take
place,
which
would
be
positive
for
that
community.
In
addition
to
those
projects,
the
expansion
of
the
interchange
program
that
they're
talking
about
is
really
the
same
thing.
It
hasn't.
E
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you,
mr
commissioner,
appreciate
your
presentation,
and
I
know
that
you
know.
Fna
has
been
historically
managed
our
spending
well
with
available
funds
that
we've
had
and
one
of
your
slides.
You
talked
about
how
revenue
growth
was
going
to
begin
to
slow
down,
and
I'm
wondering
when
can
we
expect
or
do
you
expect
that
our
revenue
base
would
also
shrink
with
that
simultaneously
or
what
are
you
seeing
around?
You
know
the
downturn
in
our
revenues
and.
E
E
We
have
put
this
budget
together
with
that
in
mind
and
have
been
cautious
to
the
point
of
saying:
let's
don't
spend
every
dollar
of
the
recurring
dollars
this
year
in
fiscal
year,
23
on
recurring
items,
because
nobody,
I
know
knows
exactly
what's
going
to
happen
in
in
23
and
22
and
23,
and
so
that's
the
reason
building
in
this
1.3
billion
dollars
of
unspent
dollars
in
recurring
funds
we're
spending
the
dollars
trying
to
spend
them
on
these
investments.
Strategic
investments
that
we're
talking
about.
A
E
E
A
F
A
Funded
okay,
I
understand.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
One
last
question:
no
change
later
camper
yesterday,
thank
you
last
year
or
yeah,
maybe
yeah
at
some
point.
Yeah
last
year
I
had
asked
about
the
covet
expansion
request
we
had
and
you
and
fna
normally.
I
guess,
you're
really
required
by
law
to
provide
a
report
back
to
the
finance
chairs
on
the
details
of
the
expansion
in
the
worksheet
form.
Did
we
do
that?
Have
we
received
that
if
so
I'd
like
to
get
a
copy
of
it.
E
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
for
all
y'all's
hard
work.
I
just
would
like
to
commend
the
governor
as
well
as
your
office.
The
the
investment
that
was
made
into
law
enforcement
is
really
going
to
change
our
state
for
generations
to
come,
specifically
the
the
investment
in
that
crime
lab
and
the
tbi
agents.
C
We've
been
really
working
on
that
for
the
last
couple
years
and
just
very
thankful
for
your
ability
to
fund
that
that
that
lab
really
is
a
as
a
tool
in
our
criminal
justice
system
and
is
vital
for
the
operation
of
that,
and
it
also
I'll
remind
everybody.
It
also
helps
exonerate
the
innocent
as
well
and
processing
that
evident
evidence.
So
thank
you
very
much
to
the
governor
for
his
commitment
to
that.
E
C
E
E
Well,
they
dave
can
add,
add
more
to
this,
but
you
saw
the
slide
here.
The
the
the
main,
the
main
fund
that
serves
as
a
state's
reserve,
is
what
we
all
refer
to
as
the
rainy
day
fund,
so
we've
got
1.6
billion
dollars
now
in
that
fund,
so
that
would
that
would
be
what
I
would
refer
to
as
our
reserve.
E
Now
there
there
are
myriad
other
reserves,
that
departments
have
or
agencies
have,
where
they're
collecting
fees
or
they're
they're
collecting
revenues
from
services
that
they
provide,
where
there
may
be
reserve
funds
set
up
for
that
department
or
that
agency,
that
that
retain
those
funds
most
of
those
are
spent
for
services
or
for
improvements
that
are
directly
related
to
the
services
that
they
may
be.
Providing
for
that
and-
and
that
list
is,
is
too
long
to
go
over
here
here
in
the
meeting.
E
That
is
set
up
to
be
able
to
do
that.
But
you
know
I
would
just
keep
in
mind
it's
a
lot
of
money.
That's
a
and
it's
a
great
reserve
we've
now
built
it
up
to
be
able
to
be
at
the
place
that
is,
is
is
dictated
by
a
statute
for
us
to
be
as
a
percentage
of
our
budget
to
have
on
hand.
But
when
you're
looking
at
a
you
know,
40
50
million
dollar
50
billion
dollar
budget.
E
Right
at
20
billion
19.8,
I
believe
20
19.8
there.
It
is
there.
It
is
right
there,
so
the
the
yellow
in
the
middle
is
the
federal
is
the
federal
dollars
19.8
so-
and
I
I
would
point
out
just
just
as
last
year
when
I
I
think
that
was
referred
to
the
budget
we
passed
was
introduced
with
40
41
billion
and
some
change
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
federal
funds
that
have
come
in
since
then.
E
J
Thank
you,
commissioner.
It's
always
great
to
look
past
david
hawk's
head.
Yes,
no.
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
for
coming
here
today.
I
had
a
couple
questions,
one
er
question
in
the
statement.
I
noticed
in
the
in
the
base
reductions
that
there
was
a
line
item
of
72
million
dollars
because
of
the
sentencing
act.
Last
year
the
legislature
passed
a
bill
to
try
to
do
a
better
job
of
making
corrections
operate
in
the
same
fashion,
in
which
every
other
department
of
state
government
does,
as
it
relates
to
capital
and
funding
in
prisons.
J
E
F
Can
respond
yes,
because
of
the
the
change
it
changes,
the
way
we
calculate
and
cause
the
cost
of
incarceration
bills
and
also
changes
the
way
those
dollars
can
be
used.
So
what
we've
done
is
redirected.
Those
sentencing
act
that
recurrent
appropriation,
that
was
already
there
72
million
dollars
into
basically
the
fund,
the
cost
increases
for
correction
and
then
some
so
I
think
their
total
cost
increases
were
100
million
dollars.
J
Yeah
follow-up.
Thank
you.
So
I
I
guess
the
reason
why
we
we
were
doing
that
the
monies
for
operating
our
prisons
and
the
monies
for
incarceration
were
co-mingled.
That's
right
right.
So
by
segregating
the
two,
we
could
do
a
better
job
of
budget
planning
as
it
related
to
capital.
But
if
we're
taking
the
money,
if
the
resultant
is
that
we're
taking
the
money
and
using
for
operating
capital,
then
we're
still
functioning
the
same
way
in
instead
of
the
legislative
instead
of
the
original
legislative
intent.
J
F
And
then,
if
we
do
have
an
expansion
of
a
facility,
we
will
know
that
we've
got
to
address
that
recurring
expense
when
it's
when
it's
built.
I
think
that
was
the
intent
of
the
one
intensive
sentencing
act,
so
we'll
make
sure
that
we
track
that.
I
think
years
ago
that
was
not
happening
long
ago
and
I
think
we're
doing
a
much
better
job
to
to
kind
of
follow
that
now
and
our
commitment
is
definitely
would
we
want
to
operate
and
fund
and
operate
something
that
we
build.
Sure.
G
J
J
Mike
deadman
was
a
fantastic
public
servant
and
he
is
to
be
missed,
and
I
wanted
to
thank
you
and
your
staff
and
the
governor
for
honoring
his
service
by
including
him
in
the
back
of
the
budget
book,
so
appreciate
that
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
shout
out
to
him
his
wife
and
family
too.
Thank
you.
Yeah.
B
F
I
I
F
I
I
I
I
I
F
F
E
E
E
I
And
I
don't
doubt
the
conservative
nature
of
your
department,
I
have
full
confidence
in
all
three
of
you,
gentlemen
and
the
people
that
work
for
you
to
do
what
you're
supposed
to
do.
My
question
simply
is:
is
the
bottom
gonna
fall
out
if
the
federal
government
continues
to
taper,
which
they've
suggested
they're
going
to
and
I'm
not
saying
we're
going
back
to
1980
and
we're
going
to
pay
whatever
percent
interest,
but
have
you
considered
the
prospect
of
the
federal
government,
stopping
printing
money
and
stopping
buying
bonds
by
the
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars?
I
And,
if
so,
is
the
income
we're
receiving?
Is
that
gonna
stop
or
is
the
result
of
jerry
sexton's
factory,
producing
more
goods
and
services,
more
couches
and
more
chairs?
Is
it?
Is
it
a
snapshot
of
tennessee
that
we're
so
much
more
productive
that
we're
receiving
revenue
or
has
the
federal
government
got
this
economy
juiced.
E
A
lot
of
those
dollars
are
going
to
institutions,
and
you
know
not
to
individuals,
but
when
you
have
that,
and
those
people
are
spending
those
dollars
which
we've
seen
that's
certainly
going
to
increase
the
revenues
that
we've
seen
so
so
part
of
it.
Is
that
part
of
it,
though,
is
the
fact
that
we
have
budgeted
more
conservatively
than
most
other
states,
and
so
when
that
happened,
and
we
didn't
increase
spending
and
we
cut
back
to
a
status
quo
budget,
as
you
all
recall
a
year
before
last
during
the
20
budget.
E
E
E
I
B
C
E
B
Well,
I
have
no
other
questioners
on
my
list,
so,
commissioner,
let
me
thank
you
again
for
you
and
your
team
for
being
here
answering
questions
presenting
what
is
an
unprecedented
budget
in
terms
of
dollar
amount,
but
again
to
echo
things
that
have
been
said
here
already.
We
really
do
appreciate
the
conservative
fiscal
approach
that
the
administration
is
taking
and
that
we
plan
to
continue
to
take
as
a
body
to
make
sure
that
again
just
because,
as
you've
said
just
because
we
have
a
dollar
in
our
pocket,
we
don't
have
to
spend
all
of
it.