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House Budget Hearings- March 7, 2022- House Hearing Room 1
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We
have
our
final
budget
presentation
for
the
day.
Our
favorite
deputy
governor,
slash,
commissioner,
is
with
us,
along
with
several
members
of
his
staff.
Thank
you
for
taking
your
afternoon
and
I
know
there's
a
little
work
going
on
on
budgets
across
in
our
body
and
in
yours.
So
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
out
to
come
today
and
I
think
we
have.
We
had
a
technical
issue,
but
I
believe
that
your
presentation
is
now
on
screen
and
members.
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Very
good,
thank
you,
chair
hazelwood
members,
members
of
the
committee.
I
am
in
butch
eagley
with
fna,
and
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
talk
with
you
today
about
fna's
budget
for
fiscal
year.
23.
with
me
today
are
several
people
that
that
I
think
you
all
know
who
will
help
guide.
The
conversation
today
here
with
me
is
deputy
commissioner
eugene
newmar
governor
lee's
policy
director
tony
nicknajad.
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Thank
you,
commissioner.
Madam
chair
members
of
on
the
next
two
slides
you'll
see
our
total
budget
of
cost
increases
are
217.6
million
dollars
that
includes
178
million
from
state
appropriations
and
would
authorize
29
new
positions
for
the
department
of
that
178
million
175.3
is
for
two
criminal
justice
programs
that,
as
commissioner
mentioned
tony's
going
to
touch
on
those
and
in
a
lot
more
detail
here
in
a
few
minutes,
I
will
note
and
want
to
say
and
go
on
the
record.
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Nine
of
the
positions
associate
are
associated
with
our
budget
request
are
for
those
two
programs
and
we're
committed
to
when
those
when
the
funding
for
those
programs
expire,
we
will
abolish
those
positions
of
and
and
take
those
off
the
rolls
so
skipping.
The
first
two
items
just
moving
to
number
three:
that
15
million
dollars
of
federal
funds.
That's
just
aligning
federal
funds
in
the
office
of
criminal
justice
programs
with
the
anticipated
funding
for
next
fiscal
year.
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Items
four
through
seven
are
upgrades
to
support
the
growing
technology
that
we're
providing
to
agencies
and
citizens
in
tennessee,
including
routine
equipment
replacement,
maintenance
and
modernization,
along
with
a
rate
adjustment
for
sts
items.
Eight
and
nine
on
this
slide
are
for
the
office
of
evidence,
and
impact
oei
continues
to
get
recognition
for
helping
the
state
use
data
to
make
budget
and
policy
decisions.
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Lastly,
on
this
slide,
tennessee's
among
one
of
eight
states
in
the
nation
with
a
mobile
app
that
provides
personalized
service
delivery
to
tennesseans
through
a
single
point
of
access
on
mobile
devices
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week,
365
days
a
year,
mytn
offers
more
than
five
dozen
services
we
launched
the
app
a
couple
years
ago
and
have
slowly
grown
the
services
and
the
number
of
users.
The
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
requested
here
will
allow
us
to
reach
more
tennesseans
by
marketing
the
availability
and
functionality
of
the
app
moving
to
slide
three.
This
continues.
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Our
cost
increases
with
allocation
for
filling
positions
and
operations
in
fna
divisions
of
capital,
accounting,
our
office
of
talent
management,
the
division
of
administration,
as
well
as
providing
recurring
funding
in
volunteer
tennessee
a
program
that's
administratively
attached
to
fna.
That
will
allow
us
to
leverage
additional
federal
funds.
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Before
I
hand
it
over
to
tony
wanted
to
just
give
a
very,
very
high
level
reminder
overview
about
the
office
of
criminal
justice
programs.
This
office
will
be
critical
to
operationalizing
the
two
programs
that
tony
will
speak
to,
and
I
won't
read
the
slide
to
you,
but
I
will
point
out
that
third
bullet,
that,
in
fiscal
year,
21
ocjp
distributed
over
85
million
dollars
in
grants
to
600
recipient
of
local
government
state
agencies
and
not
not
for
profits,
focusing
primarily
in
the
areas
of
criminal
justice
and
victim
services.
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E
Toning,
the
governor's
office,
the
next
two
slides
I
will
speak
to-
will
give
you
more
information
about
funding
for
two
of
the
governor's
public
safety
initiatives.
A
third
major
initiative
that
you
will
hear
the
governor
have
heard
the
governor
speak
about
the
law
enforcement.
Hiring
training
and
recruiting
initiative
is
within
the
budget
for
department
of
commerce
and
insurance,
and
it
will
be
administered
through
their
law
enforcement
programs
that
involves
multiple
benefits
for
recruiting
and
staffing
that
are
not
addressed
in
these
programs.
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The
violent
crime
intervention
grant
fund
will
support
a
multi-year
partnership
between
the
state
and
participating
law
enforcement
agent
agencies
to
fund
strategies
that
will
effectively
improve
policing
and
reduce
the
incidence
of
crime
in
this
state
fa.
Fna's
ocjp
will
administer
these
grants
based
on
applications
that
satisfy
allowable
uses.
Those
uses
will
be
laid
out
based
on
evidence-driven
guidelines
that
we'll
ask
the
law
enforcement
agency
to
provide
detail
and
demonstrate
to
us.
Ocjp
will
also
require
regular
reporting
on
the
use
of
these
funds
and
program
outcomes.
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If
every
law
enforcement
agency
in
the
state
were
to
participate
and
receive
funding,
the
average
award
amount
would
be
a
one-time
funding
of
approximately
357
000.
However,
we
know
that
participation
will
vary
and
we
will
require
agencies
to
develop
and
submit
applications
built
around
intentional
strategies
that
reduce
crime
and
will
demonstrate
their
strategy
for
reducing
crime
in
their
community.
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An
additional
value
add
of
this
program,
will
be
that
the
reporting
structure
established
by
ocjp
will
allow
us
to
evaluate
that
evidence
and
look
retrospectively
and
identify
those
strategies
that
worked
and
are
a
call
for
greater
investment
by
the
state
or
local
communities
going
forward.
We
can
move
to
the
next
slide.
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The
next
initiative
is
an
expansion
of
a
successful
program
launched
in
fiscal
year
21.
This
is
the
re-entry
success
grant
program
this
program
pairs
with
the
re-entry
success
act
passed
by
the
general
assembly
in
2021
and
is
designed
to
support
local
anti-recidivism
efforts
that
are
delivered
and
implemented
in
our
local
county
jails.
More
than
60
percent
of
felony
offenders
are
released
from
our
local
jails,
many
of
which
have
little
to
no
pre-release
education
or
rehabilitative
programs
that
help
them
succeed
upon
re-entry.
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That
is
a
recipe
for
recidivism
and
something
that
we
are
working
to
address
here
at
the
state
level.
The
reentry
success
grant
program
is
designed
to
help
address
that
population
round.
One
of
this
program
provided
five
million
dollars
in
reimbursement
grants
in
proportion
to
accredited
educational
investments
made
by
local
local
jails.
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However,
the
limited
amount
of
funds
required
us
to
take
a
more
narrow
approach
to
those
eligible
uses,
which
meant
that
many
vocational
training
investments,
particularly
capital
investments,
were
unable
to
qualify
with
a
25
million
dollar
investment
recommended
by
the
governor
for
consideration
by
the
general
assembly.
We
will
be
able
to
provide
for
more
for
more
physical
facility
improvements
at
in
these
local
jails,
so
for
the
purpose
of
implementing
these
education
and
rehabilitation
programs,
along
with
the
grants
for
classroom
space,
staffing
and
programs.
E
This
would
also
allow
support
for
vocational
training
type
programs,
such
as
apprenticeship
opportunities
that
are
approved
by
the
department
of
labor
and
workforce
development,
in
partnership
with
a
local
business
or
or
employer.
Finally,
there
is
an
additional
value.
Add
to
these
grants
that
they
are.
These
will
also
provide
us
with
data
and
the
ability
to
evaluate
which
strategies
worked
and
didn't
work
and
give
us
the
ability
to
target
effectively
programming
going
forward
at
the
state
and
local
level.
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Very
good,
thank
you.
Tony
I'm
going
to
hit
technology
a
little
bit
more
and
then
turn
it
over
to
you
for
questions.
While,
as
you
know,
this
is
fna's
budget
request.
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
all
remember
that
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
what
we're
doing
at
fna
is
enterprise
wide
that
involves
all
of
the
departments,
and
so
certainly
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
we
all
have
to
be
aware
of.
Careful
of
is
that
we
don't
fall
behind
as
it
relates
to
technology.
B
It's
not
a
new
thing
for
for
fna
or
for
sts
to
be
trying
to
get
ahead
of
the
curve
at
as
it
relates
to
technology.
You
know
we
had
a.
We
had
an
office
before
sts,
that
was
the
office
of
information
technology
back
in
information
technology
back
in
2016.,
and
so
it's
important
that
that
we
kept
keep
ahead
of
this
game.
B
We
do
a
great
job,
I
think,
of
collecting
data
through
the
various
departments,
to
the
state,
we're
doing
a
better
job
and
and
have
made
huge
strides,
especially
using
cloud-based
technology,
to
be
able
to
store
data,
but
one
of
the
areas
that
we
need
to
continue
improving,
as
as
as
we
have
discussed
before,
is
the
cross
utilization.
How
do
we
actually
use
this
data
to
be
more
effective
for
the
people
in
tennessee
to
put
this
in
a
little
bit
of
perspective,
we're
dealing
with
over
a
thousand
programs?
B
B
B
Third,
the
cloud
technology-
I've
already
talked
about
a
little.
This
is
simply
using
the
internet
to
access
storage
programs.
Data
files,
software
and
servers
through
connected
devices
that
help
save
time
also
is
is
cyber
security.
I
don't
have
to.
I
don't
have
to
tell
you
how
important
this
is
becoming.
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Most
of
those
are
very
kind
of
very
small,
departmental
projects,
but
there's
about
20
projects
that
are
5
million
or
over,
and
so
so
it's
important
for
us
certainly
to
stay
on
top
of
those
projects
and
make
sure
that
we
have
the
resources
to
keep
those
modernized
in
closing
and
opening
for
questions.
I
want
to
thank
you
again
for
this
opportunity
to
be
before
you
today.
If,
if
we
don't
know
the
answer,
we'll
get
the
answer
and
hopefully
be
able
to
answer
all
your
questions.
Madam
chair.
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Thank
you,
chair
lady
and
commissioner
eli.
Thank
you
and
your
staff
and
your
team
for
being
here.
Just
to
you,
you
mentioned
sds
and
and
technologies,
and
so
we're
going
to
kind
of
stick
with
that
theme
for
just
just
a
few
minutes
with
the
questions
that
I
have.
This
first
question
is
referring
back
to
the
197
million
through
the
arp
funds,
and
if
my
understanding
is
correct
and
what
you've
mentioned,
these
funds
were
for
the
cloud.
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Please
I'm
so
sorry,
yes,
stephanie
dudman,
chief
information
officer
with
sts
within
fna.
Thank
you.
Yes,
we
would.
We
have
a
number
of
projects
that
we
want
to
work
on
with
the
local
governments,
including
doing
assessments
from
where
and
there's
a
national
standard
to
assess
sort
of
where
they
are
from
a
cyber
security
coverage.
What
are
the
risks?
And
then
you
know
then
kind
of
look
at
the
totality
of
that
information
to
figure
out
what
remediation
we
might
need
to
do
with
those
local
governments.
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We
also
want
to
as
part
of
those
funds
offer
what
is
sometimes
called
cso
as
a
service,
and
that
cso
is
our
chief
information
security
officer,
so
the
services
that
we
are
providing
to
the
agency
to
state
agencies.
We
also
want
to
potentially
be
able
to
offer
some
of
those
services
to
those
local
governments
who
don't
have
the
resources
or
or
potentially
dollars
to
provide
some
of
those
services.
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So
the
budget
also
includes
24
million
in
other
funding
for
sds
projects
such
as
enterprise
network
switches,
refresh
enterprise,
I.t,
modernization,
sds
rate
review
and
enterprise
data
analytics.
Can
the
department
please
explain
the
source,
other
funding
and
how
this
funding
corresponds
with
the
increases
in
state
funding
through
miscellaneous
appropriations
provided
for
the
same
purposes.
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You
will
see-
and
I
don't
have
the
numbers
in
front
of
me,
but
there
are
associated
cost
increases
in
miscellaneous
appropriations
and
of
state
dollars,
and
what
that
is
is
when
we,
when
we
charge
back
or
we
increase
the
charges
to
state
agencies
for
those
that
are
funded
with
general
funds,
state
dollars,
we
budget
for
those
increases
and
we'll
spread
those
those
dollars
to
those
state
agencies
that
need
it,
while
also
leveraging.
Those
state
agencies
that
are
funded
with
federal
dollars
will
be
able
to
draw
on
federal
dollars.
For
for
those
agencies,.
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My
final
question:
the
pandemic
has
resulted
in
many
state
employees
continuing
to
work
from
home.
So
my
question
is:
how
has
the
increased
number
of
of
state
employees
working
from
home?
How
has
it
impacted
the
state's
cyber
security
and
the
overall
efficiency
of
the
computer
systems
utilized
by
state
departments.
G
Yes,
we
have
implemented
some
additional
tools
for
so
that
we
can
monitor
the
state,
employee,
access
and
work
from
home,
and
so
we
we
have
that
was
part
of
our
funding
from
last
year.
I
believe,
is
to
implement
some
of
those
tools.
We
find
great
efficiency
across
the
workforce
that
is
continuing
to
work
from
home,
but
continue
to
you
know,
evaluate
tools
and
what
else
we
need
to
implement
to
make
sure
we
continue
to
be
able
to
protect
our
network
and
our
data
and
access
to
systems.
H
H
I
know
the
department
received
five
million
dollars
in
the
fiscal
year
2122
budget
to
provide
funding
for
county
jails
as
you
referenced
earlier
for
evidence-based
programming
for
re-entry
into
local
communities.
This
proposed
budget
also
includes
four
positions
with
fna
and
25
million
dollars
of
non-recurring
for
a
second
round
of
re-entry
grants
and
an
additional
150
million
for
non-recurring
for
violent
crime
intervention
grants
just
to
kind
of
summarize
what
we're
talking
about
here.
H
Can
you
give
us
an
update
on
how
the
5
million
dollars
has
gone
for
reintro
reintegrants,
thus
far,
and
how
many
local
jails
received
those
grants?
What
was
their
success
level
and
I
know
we're
early
into
it,
so
I'm
not
expecting
a
three-year
recidivism
rate
or
anything
of
that
nature.
But
what
are
we
seeing
as
far
as
how
that
grant
process
went
thus
far,
and
has
it
been
successful
before
we
re-up
to
the
tune
of
about
five
times
that
amount.
E
And
I
may
have
to
provide
you
more
detail
on
a
written
report,
but
I
can
give
you
the
high
points.
There
were
23
grants
provided
approximately
4
million
dollars
that
went
out
the
door
we
are
expecting
and
preparing
for
the
additional
million
to
be
released
with,
with
after
confirmation
of
this
additional
funding,
it's
their
pending
application
and
what
we
saw
in
those
23
grants
were
primarily
educational
initiatives
focused
around
adult
basic
education.
A
H
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E
H
Programs,
in
general-
sorry,
I
mean
like-
I
know
there
are
lots
of
programs
out
there
that
help
folks
to
be
able
to
get
their
high
school
equivalency
to
get
their
college
degree
to
get
certifications,
and
we
have
a
number
of
programs
and
buckets
of
money
that
we
put
in
what
is
different
about
this
particular
grant
fund
that
provides
it
in
a
better
way
than
those
programs.
What.
E
What
this
fund
provides
is
resources
for
the
jail
itself,
so
what
we
saw
is,
for
instance,
jails
may
need
they
have
staff
dedicated
to
correctional
purposes,
but
they
don't
have
someone
who's
dedicated
to
coordinating
that
work.
That's
something
that
they
at
the
local
county
level
haven't
seen
as
a
priority
investment,
or
something
that
you
know
in
the
mix
of
every
budget.
Priority
just
happens
hasn't
risen
to
the
level
of
something
they
invested
in.
So
that's
that's
the
main
difference,
but
what
it
does
by
giving
those
resources
to
those
local
jails.
E
It
allows
them
to
more
effectively
leverage
that,
with
this
new
expansion
of
funds,
we're
anticipating
investments
in
physical
space
and
improvements
that
allow
for
classroom
space.
That
would
actually
be
a
pretty
unique
capability.
We're
not
aware
of
other
funding
sources
that
would
provide
for
that.
H
And
on
that,
what
do
you
consider
success
of
both
the
5
million
is
already
out
there
and
the
25
that
we're
allocating?
What
do
you?
What
is
the
metric
that
we
should
be
looking
at?
If
you
know
two
years,
three
years,
four
years
down
the
road
we're
looking
back
at
this
investment,
which
is
a
significant
investment?
E
I
think
what
we
we
start
with
is
a
baseline
of
what
is
the
recidivism
rate
for
these
particular
facilities
and
give
us
an
ability
to
see
what
are
the
where,
where
their
meaningful
reductions.
In
that
rate,
it
does
come
down
to
implementation,
and
so
that's
something
that
we
once
these
grants
go
out.
Wanna
stay
in
contact
make
sure
these
these
county
jails
are
accessing
those
resources
effectively
spending
the
money
wisely
and
that's
something
that
we'll
we'll
look
back
on
as
our
measure
for
success
is.
H
And
I
have
one
other
I'm
going
to
go
into
with
150
million
dollars
before
I
go
to
that.
Let
me
ask
more
of
just
kind
of
a
policy
question
on
this.
If
we
know
that
the
recidivism
rate
of
those
that
come
out
of
a
local
jail
and
are
being
locally
housed,
state
felony
prisoners
is
much
higher
to
the
tune
of
10
plus
than
those
that
are
coming
out
of
state
facilities.
H
E
I
think
that's
a
great
question.
I
think
it's
something.
That's
probably
has
a
lot
of
history
and
inertia
behind
it.
I
think
there's
probably
two
factors
if
I,
if
I
had
to
to
speak
out
loud
about
those,
I
think
one
is
that
there's
been
in
historically,
the
state
can
only
house
so
many
prisoners.
I
think
there's
staffing
and
physical
limitations.
I
think
building
more
prisons
is
something
that
is
something
it
requires
a
great
deal
of
resources
to
do,
and
it's
something
that
at
the
same
time,
these
local
facilities
have
to
exist.
E
They
have
to
provide
the
this
function
for
local
offenders
and
in
many
cases,
a
lot
of
these
local
jails
will
build
their
budget
around
those
state
senate
offenders
that
that
are
housed
there.
So
it's
a
partnership
that
for
better
or
for
worse,
it's
it's
what
we
have
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
partnership
gets
better
so
that
they
have
the
resources
they
need
to
deliver
the
same
level
of
programming
or
close
to
the
same
level
of
programming.
We
can
deliver
at
a
state
facility.
H
H
I
think
the
conversation
that
we
had
with
them
and
I
think
collectively
I
think
the
the
feeling
is
that
it's
probably
time
to
start
looking
at
those
facilities
and
ensure
that,
if
we're
going
to
be
doing
re-entry,
if
we're
going
to
do
program,
if
we're
going
to
have
programs
like
work,
release
or
anything
else,
the
facilities
we
have
at
the
state
level
simply
do
not
provide
for
that
and
neither
the
local
jail
is
going
to
be
able
to.
So
just
something
to
continue
to
look
at.
H
We've
also
set
money
aside,
and
this
committee
has
looked
at
it
for
years
that
the
fiscal
notes
were
designed
in
a
way
to
set
money
aside
for
new
prisons
and
yet
have
not
been
allocated
towards
that.
So
just
something
to
keep
in
mind.
If
we're
not
seeing
the
results
that
we
need,
then
maybe
we
should
be
doing
this
a
different
way
and
investing
state
dollars
for
state
inmates
so
that
we
get
a
better
result
on
that.
On
pivoting
to
this
other
topic
here,
the
violent
crime
intervention
grants.
How
exactly
will
these
be
dispersed?
H
What
will
the
five
positions
within
fna
be
responsible
for,
and
is
there
any
kind
of
a
match
with
local
funds
there
like?
What
are
we,
I
mean:
that's
a
huge
sum
of
money,
150
million
and
trust
me.
We
need
it.
I
mean
I'm
in
favor
of
it.
But
what
is
that
going
to
look
like
specifically
within
those
three
areas,
yeah.
E
E
What
we've
designed
is
an
application
process,
so
what
these
staff,
what
the
staff
of
the
ocjp
would
do
with
the
additional
resources
would
provide
for
pre-application
guidance
to
our
local
law
enforcement
agencies.
Many
of
them,
I
shouldn't
say
many
actually,
but
a
significant
fraction
of
them
are
familiar
with
the
grant
process,
but
we
know
many
are
not.
When
we
see
the
justice
assistant
grant
programs
come
out
from
the
burn
program
at
the
federal
level.
E
Every
year
we
usually
see
the
same
list
of
law
enforcement
agencies
participating,
and
we
know
there
are
several
law
enforcement
agencies,
particularly
those
in
rural
and
distressed
counties,
for
whom
this
is.
They
have
not
had
the
wherewithal
or
ability
to
quite
get
into
the
mix
for
these
types
of
programs.
So
that's
going
to
be
that
pre-application
guidance
will
be
a
critical
function
for
ocagp
and
something
that
they
have
provided
in
the
past
with
other
programs.
E
Then
comes
the
application
phase.
The
applications
come
in.
We
look
for
narrative,
we
have
a
back
and
forth,
but
that
law
enforcement
agencies
say
what
is
what
is
what
are
the
crime
trends
in
your
community?
For
instance,
we
look
at
shelby
county.
We
know
there
are
high
rates
of
vehicle-related
crime
like
carjacking,
so
we
may
say
how.
How
does
this
address
that
particular
trend
spike
that
you're
you're,
seeing
in
your
local
community
and
have
that
back
and
forth
so
that
it's
well
designed
not
to
meet
something?
E
E
A
Just
a
couple
of
follow-ups
on
later
lambert's,
question:
150
million
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money,
but
when
you
start
spreading
across
the
state
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
go
as
deeply
as,
as
one
might
think
so.
Are
these
grants?
Are
they,
but
given
on
a
first
come
first
serve
basis?
I
mean
I'm
sure
that
some
of
our
metropolitan
areas-
and
I
know
you
said
an
average
of
357
000-
are
you
going
to
start
out
with?
E
Yeah,
I
think
that's
a
really
important
point
and
something
that
we
take
very
seriously
when
we
design
grant
programs
for
agencies
to
administer.
We
ask
for
those
agencies
to
make
sure
there's
really
effective
outreach
out
to
all
the
potential
stakeholders
before
we
open
and
close
the
deadlines.
One
of
the
ways
that
we
get
around
the
risk
of
you
know
first
come
first
serve
or
funding
to
those
who
may
not
need
it.
A
And
so-
and
I
don't
know
that
it's
a
question
of
need,
I'm
sure
some
of
the
larger
you
know
areas
would
need
the
additional
dollars
as
well,
but
at
the
close
of
your
window.
If
your
applications,
if
you
have
money
left
over,
then
what
is
the
plan?
Are
you
going
to
reopen
the
application
process
or
how
will
that
be
addressed?.
E
We
anticipate
this
being
a
multi-year
investment
when
we,
when
we
think
about
the
scenario
where
these
funds
may
not
be
all
expense
in
the
first
round.
We
also,
we
think
about
having
multiple
rounds
available
so
that,
if
an
agency,
despite
our
best
efforts,
doesn't
get
to
participate
in
the
first
round,
there's
a
subsequent
round
that
they
can
have
access
to.
A
A
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
lady.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
office
of
evidence
and
impact.
Last
year,
four
new
positions
were
created
within
the
office
this
year.
The
proposed
budget
is
2.1
million
reoccurring
for
four
additional
positions
and
operational
costs
to
further
cross
across
the
agency
data
sharing.
I
B
Yeah,
I
think
we
can.
I
I'm
going
to
let
kristen
get
into
into
more
more
detail
as
to
how
we're
going
about
that
but
chairman.
I.
I
think
that
when
I
think
about
that
30
billion
dollars-
that's
going,
you
know
that's
in
our
base
budget
that
that
goes
out
every
year.
Much
of
the
focus
of
these
hearings
is
always
on
the
new
dollars
that
are
being
spent
and
that's
significant.
I
mean
we
need
to.
B
There
are
different
levels
of
evidence
that
kristin
can
talk
about
and
we're
not
we're,
not
necessarily
saying
that
we've
got
to
have
this
20
years
of
track
record
of
evidence
to
be
able
to
fund
any
particular
program,
because
there's
a
lot
of
programs
out
there.
That
may
not
have
evidence
yet
that
we
still
know
anecdotally.
B
At
least
that
are
that
are
that
are
very
good,
and
so
the
the
issue,
though,
is,
is
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
accountability
and
and
that
we
make
sure
that
we're
spending
these
dollars
as
wisely
as
possible,
and
so
that's
the
purpose
behind
this.
It's
a
it's
a
relatively
small
investment
when
it
comes
to
making
sure
that
that
we're
spending
these
dollars
wisely,
kristen
sure.
J
Since
we
were
before
you
last
year,
we
were
able
to
utilize
the
initial
funding
that
we
had
for
that
particular
program
to
engage
the
services
of
a
vendor
that
vendor
has
completed
a
current
state
analysis
of
our
enterprise
data
analytics
capabilities
and
has
made
some
recommendations
to
us
as
well
to
improve
our
ability
to
share
data
between
our
departments
so
that
we're
really
able
to
gain
those
cross-functional
insights
into
whether
or
not
our
programs
are
working
and
stephanie.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
to
add
to
that.
I
J
So
a
part
of
our
work
in
our
office
is
to
determine
the
level
of
evidence
that
exists
for
our
current
program,
so
the
programs
that
comprise
our
base
budget,
but
what
we
found
is
in
a
lot
of
cases.
We
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
real
real,
tangible
research
evidence
behind
behind
the
programs
that
we
are
providing.
J
So
with
that
said,
we
are
again
just
really
focusing
on
kind
of
breaking
down
the
silos,
if
you
will
between
our
agencies,
in
order
to
in
a
very
secure
way
that
always
places
privacy
as
the
top
priority
use
data
to
conduct
analytics
on
very
specific
policy
use
cases.
So
we
will
have
a
policy
question
that
we
need
answered,
that
it
requires
data
from
multiple
agencies,
and
so,
through
this
enterprise
data
analytics
work
and
this
project
we
are
going
to
be
able
we're
beginning
to
be
able
to
have
a
secure
environment.
B
J
J
As
we
all
know,
especially
in
recent
years,
we've
seen
big
increases
in
the
number
of
individuals
who
have
overdosed
who
have
perished
as
a
result
of
opioids
fentanyl
in
particular,
and
so
that's
an
area
where
to
get
the
full
picture.
We
really
need
to
be
able
to
leverage
data
from
multiple
agencies.
I
J
Sure
I
appreciate
that
question,
but
we,
I
think,
especially
on
the
enterprise
data,
analytics
work,
since
we
are
able
to
partner
with
a
vendor
to
do
the
bulk
of
that
that
work.
I
think
we
are.
We
are
totally
fine
there
with
the
four
positions
that
I
do
have
in
the
governor's
proposed
budget.
I
do
intend
to
add
one
additional
data
scientist
to
the
team
to
help
support
that
work.
We
have
two
currently
so
I
feel
like
we'll
be
in
pretty
good
shape.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
thanks,
guys
for
being
here,
we
really
appreciate
it.
My
question
involves
some
of
the
funds
that
we
receive
from
the
federal
in
the
federal
government.
The
cares
act
and
the
arp
the
american
rescue
act.
As
you
know,
we
received
2.3
billion
dollars
in
the
cares,
act,
funding
and
then
close
to
3.4
billion
from
the
arp.
My
questions
are:
what
challenges
have
the
department
face
in
allocating
this
funding
and
how
have
those
challenges
been
addressed
so
far?.
B
I'll
I'll
start
and
then
let
eugene
or
tony,
who
are
both
more
expert
than
I
am
on
this
topic.
But
I
I
will
just
say
that
we
have
we've
been
fortunate
in
in
tennessee
to
have
the
financial
stimulus,
accountability
group
that
has
been
at
work
here
in
helping
to
oversee
the
use
of
those
funds,
and
so
many
states
sat
around
for
a
long
time.
B
D
B
C
Good
deal,
thank
you
for
that
and,
of
course,
a
lot
of
these.
These
funds
have
a
lot
of
strings
attached
for
the
local
folks
to
either
start
projects
or
not
start
projects,
of
course,
a
little
bit
worried
about
what
we
may
be
responsible
for
as
a
state
versus
what
we
may
not
be
responsible
for.
So
my
question
is:
what
measures
have
we
taken
to
mitigate
any
future
increase
in
state
cost
associated
with
projects
that
have
been
initiated
under
these
two
plans?
E
Representative,
I
think
that's
a
great
question
and
something
that's
been
front
and
center.
Since
the
start
of
this,
there
are
two
major
risks
associated
with
these
funds.
The
first
is,
they
are
non-recurring,
so
by
definition
they
will
run
out
and
programs
resources
developed
around
these
funds
will
reach
a
cliff
at
which
point
the
either
state
funding
will
have
to
be
provided
for
it
to
continue
it
or
a
decision
will
have
to
be
made
to
exit
out
or
and
the
program.
E
So
that's
something
that
we
are
very
upfront
with
with
grantees
we're
upfront
with
agencies
and
very
try
to
emphasize
in
this
planning
and
really
try
to
focus
on
what
what
are
truly
temporary
expenses
or
one-time
expenses.
The
second
major
risk,
as
you
pointed
out
with
federal
strings
and
particularly
with
a
new
shift
in
administration,
is
liability.
E
E
E
Fna
has
with
a
vendor
to
help
provide
that
compliance
review,
and
then
we've
also
leveraged
that
contract,
and
I
want
to
brag
on
eugene
over
here
to
provide
a
local
government
technical
assistance
program
as
well,
because
in
addition
to
those
funds
you
described,
there
have
been
2.2
billion
dollars,
distributed
by
the
united
states
treasury
directly
to
our
local
governments,
regardless
of
their
size.
So
we're
seeing
some
communities
of
800
900
population
getting
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
that
they
did
not
ask
for
with
significant
liability
risk
attached
to
it.
D
D
D
D
We
structure
that
in
a
way
twofold
one
to
make
sure
that
we
we
can
understand
what
it
is
they
want
to
do
and
where
it
falls
from
an
eligibility
standpoint,
but
also
of
if
it
is
eligible,
it's
structured
in
a
way
that
they
basically
just
have
to
lift
and
shift
cut
and
paste.
If
you
will
from
the
plan
that
they
submit
to
us
to
the
plans
that
they'll
have
to
submit
to
treasury,
so
to
just
try
and
make
it
a
little
easier,
they
do
maintain
the
ultimate
fiscal
responsibility.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
know
we
just
have
a
minute,
so
I
just
I'll
just
ask
one
question:
the
budget
proposal
includes
15
million
dollars
to
recognize
additional
federal
funding
for
the
criminal
justice
program.
Can
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
how
that
increase
is
going
to
be
used
and
how
we're
going
to
utilize
the
two
new
positions
for
that.
D
Sure
I
I'll
probably
have
to
get
back
to
you
one
because
we're
out
of
time
and
two,
because
I'm
gonna
need
to
get
some
subject
matter.
Experts
really
what
that's
doing
is
federal
funding
that
we're
already
receiving
in
large
part
programs.
It's
just
aligning
that
funding
into
next
fiscal
year,
so
that
we
have
the
authority
to
spend
what
we
anticipate
receiving.
But
I'm
happy
to
get
a
lot
more
detail
from
our
office
of
criminal
justice
program
to
let
you
know
what
those
are
and
how
those
will
be
used.
That'll
be
fine.
A
C
This
question
is
from
a
student
at
tennessee
tech
and
she
requested.
I
asked
this
question:
what
impact
have
cyber
criminals
had
on
the
federal
transfer
funds
for
our
covered
relief
funds
to
the
state
of
tennessee,
such
as
the
department
of
labor
unemployment
compensation
and
she
wants
to
know
if
there's
been
have
cyber
criminals
attacked
our
our
institutions
or
our
fund
balances?
And
if
so,
how
and
if
they've
been
have
been
successful.
G
C
C
C
E
Yes,
sir,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
want
to
partner
with
law
enforcement
on
it's
a
concern
that
we've
heard
and
something
that
would
be
a
an
area
that
we
would
certainly
look
for.
Applications
that
attempt
to
address
that.
I
think
violence
inter
interruption
or
violence,
intervention
partnerships
with
non-profits
that
engage
with
youth
before
they
become
more
hardened,
and
that
is
something
that
is
within
the
scope
of
what
we're
considering.
A
Thank
you,
deputy
governor
and
all
those
who
are
with
you.
We
appreciate
it.
We
probably
have
more
questions
but,
as
I
said,
we
have
a
hard
stop.
Thank
you
for
the
work
that's
been
done
and
at
some
point
just
a
I
would
like
to
have
a
better
understanding.
We
throw
around
the
words
evidence-based
a
lot,
but
just
a
real
definition
of
what
that
is
and
how
we
know
it's
evidence-based,
and
I
think
there
was
some
general
conversation
around
that
and
some
of
the
questions
today,
but
I'd
like
to
dig
a
little
deeper
into
that.