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House Finance, Ways & Means Subcommittee House Hearing Room 3
D
A
Thank
you
very
much,
I'd
like
to
call
the
financial
ways
means
and
maine
subcommittee
to
order
for
april
6
2022.
members.
Are
there
any
announcements
or
personal
orders
before
we
begin
all
right?
Seeing
now
we
have
a
total
of
60
bills
on
our
calendar
today.
So
I
know
some
members
are
over
in
other
committees,
and
so
they
may
be
coming
in
and
out.
So
we
will
try
to
get
to
accommodate
as
much
as
we
can,
but
we
will
have
to
roll
a
couple
of
these
until
we
see
the
members
come
in
all
right.
A
A
Okay,
that
brings
us
to
item
number
two
on
our
calendar
again
by
leader
lambert.
The
house
bill
2118
without
ejection
roll
to
the
hill
brings
us
to
item
number
three
house
bill
606
by
leader
lamberth,
without
objection
we'll
roll
this
one
to
the
hill
brings
us
to
item
number
four
house
bill
2096
by
leader,
lamberth
without
ejection,
we'll
roll
this
one
to
the
heel.
A
Item
number
five
is
house
bill,
1852
by
chairman
boyd.
This
was
previously
considered
and
placed
behind
the
budget.
It
has
now
been
funded
in
the
administration
amendment
we
can
move.
We
can
actually
move
this
out
to
full
finance.
So
any
objection
to
reconsidering
our
action
on
house
bill
1852,
seeing
none.
We
are
on
house
bill
1852.
A
F
You,
mr
chairman
committee,
hospital
1852,
is
the
bill
that
I
described
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
That
would
provide
a
mechanism
for
which
veterans
of
the
armed
forces
that
have
served
in
certain
periods
of
armed
conflict
can
buy
up
to
four
years
into
the
tennessee
consolidated
retirement
system.
It
would
apply
to
state
employees
and
it
would
be
permissive
for
local
governments
to
do
the
same.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'll,
take
any
questions.
Thank.
G
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you,
chairman
boyd,
for
this
bill
for
sara.
I
know
you
worked
on
this
idea
for
several
years.
Much
like
you
in
my
district,
I've
had
many
law
enforcement
individuals
from
my
community.
Both
the
sheriff
and
cooper
police
department,
who's
began
their
service
to
our
state
and
our
nation
in
the
military,
and
this
gives
us
a
way
to
honor
them
the
same
way
which
we
did
veterans.
G
D
A
That
endorsement
of
the
bill,
chairman
williams,
further
discussion,
see
none
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
1852,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
all
those
posts
know
the
eyes.
Have
it
house
bill
1852
moves
to
full
finance?
Thank
you
chairman.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
six
item
number
six
on
our
calendars
house,
bill
2500
by
chairman
boyd,
and
I
have
a
request
to
roll
this
one
week.
So
without
objection
house
bill
2500
rolled
one
week,
thanks.
A
D
You,
mr
chairman
and
committee,
this
bill
enhances
the
penalty
for
the
offense
of
aggravated
burglary
from
a
class
c
felony
to
class
b
felony.
If
the
burglary
is
of
an
occupied
habitation,
it
also
increases
the
penalty
for
especially
aggravated
burglary
from
a
class
b
felony
to
class
a
felony.
If
the
burglary
is
of
habitation
so
trying
to
draw
the
distinction
here
between
breaking
into
somebody's
house,
when
you
know
they're
there,
their
cars
are
out
in
front.
It's.
D
You
know,
nighttime,
probably
asleep,
that's
a
much
more
violent
act
than
not
that
we
condone
anybody
burglarizing
anybody's
home,
but
if
you
know
no
one's
there,
you're
trying
to
get
in
get
out
quickly.
You
know
one
thing
my
dad
always
told
me
if
they
come
in,
while
you're
home
be
prepared
to
shoot
back
because
they're
coming
to
hurt
you
all
right.
A
H
D
H
D
H
A
A
All
right.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
eight
and
I
think
chairman
doggett
is
in
another
committee.
So
without
objection
we
will
roll
house
bill
2571
to
the
hill,
brings
us
to
item
number
nine
house
bill
2572
also
by
chairman
doggett
and
without
objection.
We're
gonna
roll.
This
to
the
hill
brings
us
to
item
number
10.
house
bill
905
by
chairman
doggett.
Without
objection,
we'll
roll
this
to
the
hill.
A
We're
going
to
be
at
the
hill
before
too
long
all
right.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
11.
item
number
11
is
going
to
be
house
bill
2436
by
chairman
farmer,
and
he
may
be
in
committee
as
well.
I
think
he
is
so
without
objection.
We'll
roll
house
bill
2436
to
the
hill
brings
us
to
chairman
hawford
item
number
12.,
that's
going
to
be
house
bill.
1018
item
number
12
house
bill:
1018
was
previously
considered
in
place
behind
the
budget
it
has
now.
A
It
has
now
been
funded
by
the
administration
amendment
and
can
be
moved
out
of
full
finance.
So
without
objection
we
are
reconsidering
our
action
to
house
bill
1018.
So
with
with
any
objection
seeing
none
house
bill,
1018
is
back
before
us
now
we're
on
out
of
number
12
house
bill
1018,
you
have
a
motion
and
a
second
you're
recognized
sir.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
house,
bill
1018
was
previously
heard
and
passed
in
2019
and
at
the
time
there
were
a
couple
of
items
left
out
of
the
out
of
the
bill.
That
needed
need
to
be
included
in
that
bill.
Those
would
be
the
four-year
background
check
and,
and
the
renewal
fee
that
were
left
out
in
2019
was
hurt
again
in
2020
past
the
house
didn't
pass
the
senate,
so
here
we
are
again
in
2022
trying
to
get
these
two
items
back
on
this
bill
where
it's
in
the
proper
posture.
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
chairman
halford.
I
just
I
guess
I
wanted
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions
about
the
fiscal
note
on
this.
So
it
looks
like
the
amended
fiscal
note.
This
is
going
to
make
about
1.3
million
dollars
for
the
department,
yet
they're
only
going
to
be
spending
about
96
000..
I'm
understanding
that
that
96
000
is
really
only
up
to
update
their
computer
equipment
to
accommodate
this
kind
of
a
one-time
cost.
D
Yet
they're
going
to
see
this
recurring,
it
looks
like
revenue
over
a
period
of
time
that
will
further
enhance
their
almost
26
million
dollar
reserve
in
the
handgun
reserve
fund.
So
I
guess
I'm
questioning
why
we
need
to
charge
our
citizens
this
much
money
for
something
that's
really
already
being
paid
for
other
than
that
the
initial
computer
cost.
Do
you
know
anything
about
that?
Sir?
You
know,
mr
chairman,
I
I
can't
answer
that
question.
D
My
only
exposure
to
this
bill
has
been
simply
what
I
have
stated
here
today,
so
I'm
just
picking
up
the
I
inherited
this
from
another
member,
so
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
total
workings
of
the
bill.
So
I
suppose
my
answer
would
be
that
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
question.
Chairman
todd.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
I
would
like
to
work
with
you.
D
This
makes
it
out
of
this
committee
today
before
it
gets
to
full
finance
to
possibly
amend
it
and
lower
the
cost
for
our
citizens,
because
I
I
have
felt
for
some
time,
they're,
probably
being
overcharged
for
this
type
of
service
by
the
department,
considering
that
their
fund,
their
reserve
fund
just
keeps
growing.
So
I
think
that's
that's
pretty
clear
evidence
that
they're
being
overcharged,
so
I'd
like
to
work
with
you
to
maybe
change
the
dollar
figure
on
that
I'll,
be
happy
to
do
that.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
All
right,
thank
you.
D
Well,
I
I
thank
you
for
that.
It's
been
an
honor
and
a
privilege
to
to
appear
before
this
committee,
as
well
as
other
committees
that
I've
appeared
before
in
the
14
years
that
I've
been
here.
So
I
appreciate
that
very
much,
and
yes,
this
probably
is
my
last
bill
before
finance
ways
and
means
subcommittee.
So
I
thank
you
all
for
allowing
me
to
stand
here
in
in
this
place
today.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
A
A
J
Yeah,
I
think
mr
chair
and
committee
members
members
I
want
to
let
you
all
know
what
this
bill
does.
This
allows
students
who
finish
high
school
early
say
they
finish
their
junior
year
to
go
ahead
and
take
advantage
of
the
promise
scholarship
dollars.
So
they
can
go
on
to
college
right
now.
There's
not
a
mechanism
to
do
that,
and
it
does
have
a
fiscal
note.
It's
got
about
a
1.2
million
dollar
increase
of
state
expenditures
that
should
come
from
the
the
promise
of
the
tennessee
province
reserve
account.
J
But
you
know
what
that
tells
us
tells
us
this
based
on
the
way
it's
calculated.
We've
got
1173
kids
that
may
not
move
on
and
go
to
college
because
of
this
issue
here.
So
I'm
hoping
it's
going
to
get
funded.
I
know
I'm
probably
gonna
go
behind
the
budget
here
just
in
a
minute,
but
I
want
to
let
you
all
know
what
this
does
and
I'd
appreciate.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Chairman
members,
you've
heard
the
description
of
house
bill
2436
any
discussion
sing.
None,
as
the
chairman
has
already
alluded
to.
There
is
a
cost
associated
with
house
bill
2436.
So
without
objection
house
bill
2436
will
go
behind
the
budget
all
right.
Thank
you,
mr
thank
you
chairman.
A
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Later
members
you've
heard
the
description.
Any
discussion,
seeing
none
as
the
leader
has
already
alluded
to
it-
does
have
a
cost
associated
with
it.
So
we
will
have
to
place
it
behind
the
budget
and
consider
it
at
another
date.
So
without
objection,
house
bill
2097
goes
behind
the
budget.
All
right.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
two
out
of
number
two
on
our
calendars
house
bill
2118
by
leader,
lamberth.
You
have
a
motion.
Second,
to
recognize,
sir
famous.
F
Chairman,
I
know
this
one
also
has
other
fiscal
impact,
but
this
really
clarifies
two
issues
that
we
passed
last
year
that
need
to
be
fixed,
and
I
do
hope
deeply
that
this
will
come
out
from
behind
the
budget
later.
It
deals
with
misdemeanor
probation
violations
and
and
a
probation
violation
dealing
with
a
no
contact
order,
violation.
F
We
passed
a
bill
last
year
and
I
don't
think
it
was
anybody's
intent
to
say
if
a
judge
tells
someone
you
cannot
have
any
contact
whatsoever
with
a
victim
of
crime.
Representative
friedman
just
came
from
a
committee
meeting
dealing
with
trying
to
protect
victims
of
crime
right
now.
It's
not
a
probation
violation
to
have
contact
with
the
victim
of
crime
unless
you've
got
a
real
protection.
This
fixes
that
and
makes
it
clear
that
it
is.
But
again,
mr
chairman,
I
understand
it
has
other
fiscal
impact
all
right.
A
Thank
you
later
members
you've
heard
the
description
of
house
bill
2118
any
discussion,
seeing
none
as
the
leader
has
already
alluded
to.
There
is
a
cost
associated
with
it.
We
will
have
to
place
behind
the
budget
and
consider
it
at
a
later
date.
So
without
objection
house
bill
218
goes
behind
the
budget.
A
F
F
Sir
well,
mr
evan,
I
know
this
will
go
behind
the
budget
anyways,
but
there
this
would
hopefully,
if
it
were
to
come
out
from
behind
the
budget,
have
an
update
for
the
effective
date.
This
is
an
issue.
I've
been
working
on
the
entire
time.
I've
been
down
here,
and
this
is
for
vehicular
homicide
to
be
100
sentence.
F
It's
embarrassing
that
someone
can
get
out
there
and
kill
one
of
our
citizens
and
get
a
10-year
sentence
and
get
out,
or
at
least
be
up
for
parole.
Many
times
get
out
in
a
year
and
a
half
two
and
a
half
years,
three
years.
It's
heartbreaking
to
see
families
go
through
this.
There
is
another
bill
that
is
out
there.
That
is
sponsored
by
both
speakers.
That
does
include
this
bill.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
this
is
still
alive
for
conversation,
and
it
doesn't
matter
to
me
which
bill
it
passes
in.
F
It
doesn't
matter
to
the
victims
and
their
families
of
violent
crime,
of
which
bill
this
is
passed
in,
but
I
hope
and
pray
that
this
committee
will
consider
funding
this
this
year.
I've
brought
it
just
about
every
other
year
since
I've
been
down
here.
It
is
something
very,
very,
very
important.
So
again,
I
know
for
today's
purposes
it
goes
behind
the
budget,
but
I
really
hope
we
pass
a
bill
any
bill
that
will
include
this
in
there
and
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
nora
skelly
with
brothers
against
drunk
driving.
F
A
All
right,
thank
you,
leader,
lambert,
and
thank
you
for
your
hard
work
on
this
members.
You've
heard
the
description.
Any
discussion
on
house
bill
606,
seeing
none
as
the
sponsor
has
already
alluded
to.
There
is
cost
associated
with
it,
so
we
will
have
to
place
it
behind
the
budget.
However,
since
it
has
been
calendared
three
times,
we
will
need
to
place
it
on
a
special
calendar
to
be
published
with
our
final
calendar
percent
house
rule.
So
without
objection
house
bill
606
will
go
on
the
special
calendar
to
be
published
with
the
final
calendar
without
objection.
A
F
And
my
hopes
are
that
there
is
an
amendment
filed
on
this
coded
zero
one,
six,
nine,
eight
three.
Yes,
sir.
A
A
F
So
we
we
do
a
really
good
job
of
this
in
tennessee
right
now
requiring
work
requirements
for
folks
that
are
on
temporary
assistance.
This
puts
it
into
the
code,
primarily
what
the
department
is
doing
now,
which,
if
someone
goes
on
temporary
assistance,
the
goal
is
to
get
them
out
of
the
situation
they're
in
and
back
up
on
their
feet.
The
best
way
to
do
that,
if
they're
able-bodied
is
to
make
sure
they
get
work,
training
or
get
a
job,
and
so
this
puts
it
into
code
that
that
has
to
happen.
There
are
some.
F
You
know
some
extenuating
circumstances
that
happens
from
time
to
time,
where
the
commissioner
can
waive
that
requirement
and
it
lines
out
when
that
can
happen,
and
then
the
commissioner
would
report
back
to
us.
You
know
how
how
often
that
happened
in
a
given
year-
and
we
would
know
now
it's
very
limited,
but
but
this
commissioner
again
does
a
great
job.
He
may
not
always
be
the
commissioner.
There
have
been
many
before
him,
probably
money
after
this
just
puts
in
code.
What
is
really
best
practices
of
the
commission
right
now.
A
B
Thank
thank
you.
Mr
chairman.
Sarah
was
late
asking
the
question
leader
lambreth
with
this.
How
would
this
legislation
affect
any
federal
funds
or
regulations
from
the
federal
level
with
respect
to
the
snap
program
leader.
F
F
I
think
this
program
dates
all
the
way
back
to
the
clinton
years
and
in
republicans
and
democrats
working
together,
they
both
agreed
that
it
was
a
good
idea
to
make
sure
that,
if
someone's
going
to
be
on
this
type
of
temporary
assistant,
but
the
goal
is
to
not
in
any
way
violate
any
kind
of
federal
prohibition
or
law
here,
but
it
is
to
work
within
what
they've
given
us
and
the
fiscal
note,
as
amended
is,
is
not
significant
and
it
doesn't
indicate
any
type
of
risk
to
federal
funds.
F
We
don't
want
to
go
down
that
road.
So
again,
that's
why
we
have
some
flexibility
there
for
the
commissioner
and
specifically,
it's
why
we're
only
doing
what
we're
allowed
to
do
under
federal
law.
Most
of
these
are
federal
programs,
obviously,
but
they're
ministered
by
the
state
leader,
camper.
B
Thank
you,
and
so
mr
leader
you're,
putting
in
code
the
current
practices
or
what
it.
What
is
it
that
we
actually
put
in
code
that
may
be
a
little
different
from
how
the
program
is
actually
being
ran.
F
Later
lambert,
so
again
right
now,
we
we
you
know,
do
everything
we
can
to
require
folks
to
work
if
they're
going
to
be
on
these
temporary
benefit
programs.
These
are
not
long-term.
These
are
able-bodied
tennesseans
that
have
fallen
to
a
situation
where
they
need
these
programs
and-
and
we
have
these
programs
there.
F
For
that
reason,
but
if
all
we
do
is
just
get
them
a
check
for
a
couple
of
months,
then
we've
really
failed
them
if,
if
at
the
same
time
we're
trying
to
get
them
both
that
assistance
they
need
and
get
them
into
work,
work,
training
or
into
a
job,
then
we've
helped
that
person
hopefully
never
have
to
come
back
into
the
roles
again.
So
that's
what
the
federal
programs,
quite
frankly,
I
think,
envisioned
at
the
beginning,
and
it's
what
we're
trying
to
do
now.
This
will
just
solidify
it
into
the
state
law.
A
F
A
K
You,
mr
chairman
and
committee
members,
do
I
have
to
put
the
amendment
amendments
already
owned.
K
It's
a
good
go
wonderful!
Thank
you.
What
we're
doing
is
a
this
is
a
training
supplement
for
correctional
officers
in
our
local
county
jails.
Currently
right
now,
law
enforcement
officers
that
are
post
certified
are
able
to
receive
an
800
a
year.
Training
supplement
once
they
complete
their
40-hour
in-service
training.
K
Correctional
officers
have
not
been
afforded
that
opportunity
in
the
past
and
that's
what
we're
seeking
to
do
now
once
they
complete
a
tci
approved
40-hour
in-service
training.
There's
also
some
provisions
in
there
about
when
they
would
not
be
eligible
to
receive
this
training
supplement,
but
it
will
not
count
towards
their
annual
salary.
It
will
be
treated
as
as
a
bonus
like
it
is
for
post-certified
officers.
A
D
Todd
just
one
quick
question:
so
are
these
correctional
officers
required
to
have
this
training
every
year,
chairman
dog,.
K
Excellent
question:
it's
in
in
state
law
that
correctional
officers
are
required
to
have
the
40
hours
of
in-service
training.
They
currently
do
that,
however,
they're
not
being
there's
no
supplement
for
doing
that,
whereas
law
enforcement
is
also
required
by
law
to
have
their
40
hours
of
in-service,
but
we
are
currently
giving
them
their
800
training
supplement
chairman.
D
Todd.
Thank
you,
sir.
I
appreciate
that
explanation
and
a
couple
years
ago
I
carried
the
bill
that
that
got
the
post-certified
officers
an
additional
200
on
that,
yes,
sir,
and
so
I
was
familiar
with
that,
but
I
wasn't
sure
this
was
a
requirement
for
these
other
officers.
So
I'm
glad
you
clarified
that.
Thank
you
further.
A
Discussion
seeing
none,
there
is
a
cost
associated
with
house
bill
2571
and
we
will.
We
will
have
to
place
it
behind
the
budget
and
consider
it
at
a
later
date.
So
without
objection
house
bill
2571
will
go
behind.
The
budget
brings
us
to
item
number
nine.
On
our
calendar
item
number
nine
is
house
bill
2572
by
chairman
doggett.
You
have
a
motion
in
a
second
and
it
looks
like
sir.
You
have
an
amendment
drafting
code
017106
that
rewrites
the
bill.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
sir,
it
is.
A
Do
we
have
a
motion,
a
second
on
the
amendment.
You
have
a
motion
to
second,
you
are
recognized,
let's
go
and
get
this
on
then
I'll.
Let
you
describe
it
in
just
a
second
remember:
there's
any
discussion
on
the
amendment.
Seeing
now
we're
now
voting
on
drafting
code,
zero,
one,
seven
one:
zero
six
onto
house
bill,
2572.,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
all
those
posts
know
the
eyes
have
it.
We
are
back
on
the
bill
as
amended,
and
you
are
recognized.
Thank.
K
You
very
much,
mr
chairman,
the
original
bill
that
we
had
brought
forward
looked
at,
providing
a
or
establishing
a
mechanism
for
post-certified
officers,
police
officers,
sheriff's
deputies
for
our
state,
troopers
agents
and
so
forth
to
be
able
to
accrue
one
year
towards
their
retirement
for
every
five
years
of
service
that
which
I
had
hoped
it
had.
A
minuscule
fiscal
note
did
not.
K
However,
what
this
with
this
new
amendment
that
rewrites
the
bill
does
have
a
miniscule
fiscal
note
and
what
we're
doing
is
establishing
a
task
force
with
the
department
of
treasury.
I've
met
with
the
treasurer
numerous
times
when
we
worked
through
the
previous
amendments,
we're
wanting
to
find
something
to
help
with
retention
and
with
recruitment
of
law
enforcement
across
this
state
we're
seeing
our
numbers
go
down.
K
We
sure
do
appreciate
our
men
and
women
in
uniform
that
serve
our
communities
and
we
want
to
find
a
way
to
keep
them
around,
and
so
this
was
one
incentive
that
we
had
worked
towards
we're
going
to.
With
this
amendment
establish
a
task
force.
The
department
of
treasury
is
going
to
be
a
part
of
we're
going
to
study
the
the
retirement
benefits
for
law
enforcement
officers
and
come
back
lord
willing
next
year
with
with
a
plan
to
do
so.
It
also
establishes
who
will
be
on
the
committee
and
so
forth
and
so
on.
A
L
L
D
B
A
Thank
you
chair
lady,
further
discussion
on
house
bill
2572,
seeing
none
they're,
I'm
not
sure
I
can
say
miniscule.
I
think
I
just
did,
but
it
does
have
that
on
this
bill,
but
I
know
you've
been
working
hard
and
we
do
thank
you
for
for
this
piece
of
legislation
we
will
because
of
the
cost.
We
will
have
to
place
it
behind
the
budget
to
consider
it
at
a
later
date.
So
without
objection
house
bill
2572
goes
behind
the
budget.
A
A
A
Item
number
13.
item
number
13
is
going
to
be
by
chair
lady
helton.
Is
it
off
notice
there?
It
is.
We
have
a
request
to
take
house
bill,
2680
off
notice,
so
without
objection
house
bill
2680
we'll
give
me
just
a
second
okay
okay,
so
we
have
had
a
request
to
take
it
off
notice,
but
it
has
been
calendared
three
times
so
we
will
have
to
place
it
on
a
special
calendar
to
be
published
with
our
final
calendar
percent
pursuant
to
our
house
rules.
A
A
All
right
we're
on
house
bill
1689
by
chairman
holtzclaw.
You
have
a
motion
and
a
second.
You
are
recognized,
sir,
on
house
bill
1862.
Have
you
gotten
an
amendment?
We've
actually
got
two
amendments.
Okay,
let's
go
with
the
first
amendment
is
going
to
be
drafting
code,
zero,
one,
six,
nine,
seven,
seven
by
representative
lynn,
correct!
Do
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second?
N
You
very
much-
and
this
amendment
would
add
cedar
creek
yacht
club
in
in
wilson
county
to
sell
alcoholic
beverages
for
premises
on
for
consumption.
A
All
right,
remember:
you've,
heard
the
description
on
the
amendment
amendment
zero,
one,
six,
nine,
seven,
seven
any
discussion
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
amendment
zero,
one,
six,
nine,
seven,
seven
to
house
bill
1689,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
all
those
posts
know
the
eyes.
Have
it
we're
back
on
the
bills
amended
and
where
we
have
another
amendment,
we
have
amendment
drafting
code,
zero,
one,
six,
nine
one,
one
by
chairman
williams.
We
have
a
motion
to
second.
We
do
have
a
motion
in
the
second,
so
you're
recognized
chairman
williams.
Thank.
G
A
Right,
thank
you.
Members
you've
heard
the
description
of
the
amendment
any
discussion.
Seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
amendment,
one
six,
nine
one,
one
to
house
bill,
1689,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed,
no
the
eyes
have
it
we're
back
on
the
bill,
as
amended
chairman
you're
recognized.
Thank
you
and.
D
A
Right,
thank
you,
chairman
host
call
members.
You've
heard
the
description.
Any
discussion
on
house
bill
1689,
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
1689,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed.
No
the
eyes
have
it
house
bill,
1689
moves
to
full
finance
and
just
for
your
knowledge.
A
L
L
Okay,
very
good.
Thank
you
very
much.
Our
refugee
study
committee
hearings
over
the
summer
appointed
by
the
speaker
on
both
houses
brought
to
light
some
shocking
lack
of
transparency
on
the
part
of
the
federal
government
regarding
its
unaccompanied
alien
children
program
in
response
chair,
lady
white,
and
I
brought
this
legislation.
It
creates
a
new
category
of
child
care
agency,
called
the
non-traditional
child
care
agency
and
I'll
briefly
explain
what
that
is.
L
The
new
ncca
will
be
specific
in
addressing
those
agencies
such
as
the
one
that
was
involved
in
the
instances
in
chattanooga.
I
know
they
made
the
news
statewide.
L
The
reason
they're
not
subject
to
those
compacts
is
because
these
children
are
under
the
jurisdiction
of
the
federal
government,
and
we
found
out
during
our
hearings
that
the
federal
government
is
very
reluctant
to
share
any
information
about
these
children
and
those
who
are
on
the
committee.
I
think
would
agree
with
that.
As
a
result,
the
feds
do
not
share,
have
not
shared
and
apparently
do
not
intend
to
share
any
of
the
info
information
about
the
status
of
these
children
within
the
state
of
tennessee.
L
However,
federal
law
and
state
law
agree
that
the
state
of
tennessee
any
state
for
that
matter
is
responsible
for
the
welfare
and
safety
of
the
minor
children
within
its
borders,
who
are
unaccompanied
by
parents
or
under,
doesn't
have
a
legal
guardian,
and
that's
what
this
bill
seeks
to
do
is
to
clarify
how
we
approach
the
welfare
and
safety
of
these
children.
Just
to
be
clear,
the
state
of
tennessee
has
no
standing
with
regard
to
immigration,
but
we
do
have
standing
with
regard
to
the
welfare
and
safety
of
these
children.
L
So
this
bill
seeks
to
address
that
the
safety
in
children
and
this
bill
was
drafted
with
the
assistance
of
dcs,
who
is
deferred
on
the
bill
and
briefly
it
does
a
few
things
that
I'll
describe
and
then
take
any
questions
you
may
have.
It
required
contains
reporting
requirements
to
ensure
that
dcs
knows
who
is
being
brought
into
the
state.
L
L
This
bill
will
also
create
a
cause
of
action
for
a
child
against
an
ncca
who
may
have
been
subject
to
abuse
at
a
facility
such
as
the
one
in
chattanooga.
We
know
the
outcome
of
what
happened
there
and
some
of
those
cases
are
still
pending
and
there
is
an
application
fee
for
the
nccas
as
well.
That
is
a
general
overview
of
what
this
bill
does.
I
believe
these
safeguards
are
reasonable.
L
I
Thank
you,
chairman
chairman
howe.
I
think
I
understand
what
you
just
said:
can
you
drill
down
and
do
a
small
summary
of
like
give
me
an
example
of
like
what
happened
in
chattanooga?
How
this
affects
that
situation?
I
You
know.
Obviously
these
kids
are,
you
know,
probably
in
a
very
traumatic
situation,
and
they
don't
know,
what's
happening
to
them,
and
is
there
a
connection
of
what
the
state
does
as
far
as
their
welfare
I
mean.
Does
this?
Does
this
hurt
or
in
that
situation
with
these
kids,
because
they
didn't
ask
to
be
there
and
that's
it
in
this
situation
and
so
can?
Can
you
help
me
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
we're
actually
doing
here,
chairman
howell.
L
L
L
L
The
rcca's
are
agencies
that
just
do
placement;
in
other
words,
they
would
be
a
a
go
through
agency
that
has
a
child
that
needs
to
be
put
in
foster
care
and
they
would
place
it
into
a
residential
area
with
a
foster
care
situation.
Something
like
that.
The
non-traditional
agency
that
was
created
in
this
bill,
with
the
assistance
of
legal
and
dcs
specifically
addresses
dormitory-style
housing,
and
that
agency
was
for
a
hundred
children,
hindsight's
2020..
L
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
legislation.
It
was.
I
was
on
this
committee
and
it
was
extremely
frustrating
to
learn
of
some
really
bad
things
happening,
bad
things
for
our
state
where,
where
folks
were
coming
in,
without
our
knowledge,
we
got
no
cooperation
whatsoever
from
the
federal
government.
They
wouldn't
participate
in
this
investigation
and
it
revealed
some
some
things
that
are
very
concerning
to
us.
So
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this.
D
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
mr
chairman,
the
information
that
you
were
referring
to
with
respect
to
whether
the
federal
government
was
sharing
information
on
the
children.
B
Do
you
see
with
the
reporting
that
you're
putting
in
place
with
this
bill
is
going
to
jeopardize
some
of
that?
B
L
Thank
you
for
that
question
as
a
condition
of
their
license.
They
would
have
to
to
report.
As
I
mentioned,
the
reporting
requirements
on
who
is
being
brought
into
the
state.
This
is
not
a
report
from
the
federal
government.
We
obviously
can't
get
any
cooperation
from
them,
but
this
would
be
a
condition
of
their
license.
L
L
B
Kind
of
my
concern
so
they'll
be
doing
their
report.
It'll
be
two
dcs
in
this
case
and
the
report
is
protected
to
some
degree
and
everyone
won't
have
access
to
this
information.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
dcs
getting,
but
I'm
concerned
about
the
public
and
people
the
number
of
people
that's
going
to
have
access
to
this
information.
L
Thank
you
and
I
share
your
concern
and
these
I
might
remind
you
that
these
are
minor
children
and
that
information
is
protected,
and
I
might
also
let
the
committee
know
that
the
license
has
been
revoked
for
that
facility
in
chattanooga.
It
is
under
appeal.
So
far
it's
been
denied
upon
appeal,
they've
done
another
repeal
so
we'll
have
to
see
where
that
goes.
A
A
G
A
A
C
C
C
I
can
read
you
the
definition
of
the
specific
learning
disability,
it's
defined
as
a
disorder
and
one
or
more
of
the
basic
psychological
processes
involved
in
understanding
or
in
using
language
spoken
or
written.
That
may
manifest
itself
in
the
imperfect
ability
to
listen,
think
speak,
read,
write
spell
or
do
mathematical
calculations,
including
conditions
such
as
dyslexia,
perceptual,
disabilities,
brain
injury,
minimal
brain
dysfunction
and
developmental
aphasia.
C
So
these
are
some
pretty
extreme
conditions
and
that's
why
we
believe
I
think
there
would
be
the
potential
for
200
and
right
under
300
students
if
all
of
them
took
advantage
of
it,
and
so
anyway,
I
guess
I
could
hush
and
see
what
questions
we
have
and
then
I
won't
take
a
lot
of
your
time.
A
O
Thank
you
chairman,
and
just
trying
to
understand
exactly
what
the
what
what
the
intent
here
is.
So
are
these.
These
are
children
that
are
going
to
be
leaving
school.
To
get
assistance
somewhere
else
is
that
is
that
what
we
would
be
doing
here.
C
C
I
am
in
awe
of
what
they
are
able
to
do
as
they
do
not
know
what
who's,
what
students
are
coming
to
them
and
to
be
able
to
try
to
you
know,
get
ready
to
try
to
meet
those
needs
and
and
again,
as
we
think
of
all
the
disabilities
out
there,
my
hat's
off
to
the
job
that
they
do.
C
This
would
be
in
the
camp
of
what
I
would
call
parental
choice
in
that,
if
they
know
their
child
best,
the
parent
and
their,
for
whatever
reason
the
school
is
not
able
to
offer
a
program
or
for
their
child
in
the
school,
then
the
parent
that
what
the
iea
does
is
they
apply
to
be
in
that
program
it's
very
tightly
monitored.
As
far
as
the
financial
end,
they
quarterly
would
get
a
part
of
the
money,
the
the
federal
money,
and
they
would
they
have
to
provide
receipts.
C
But
it's
up
to
the
parent.
If
there
is
a
private
school
that
wants
to
participate,
this
does
not
force
private
schools
to
participate.
It
is
purely
up
to
them,
but
if
they
want
to
use
it
to
homeschool
or
to
get
those
services,
it
is
up
to
the
parent,
but
they
it
is
an
approved
vendor
list
that
they
have
to
choose
from
and
they
have
to
turn
in
their
receipts
of
where
they
are
using
that
money.
And
so
it
is,
it's
not
just
go
to
walmart
and
get
xboxes.
C
As
some
people
try
to
say
it
is
very
tightly
monitored.
O
I
have
asked
from
multiple
different
people
to
understand
where
this
money
is
being
spent
today,
as
you
and
I
know,
because
we
work
together
in
my
first
year
on
a
on
a
bill
to
deal
with
students
with
dyslexia
and
when
we
began
investigating
this,
and
I
know
we
also
went
to
the
dyslexia
center
in
murfreesboro
together
or
within
a
week
of
each
other
and
upon
investigation
there
weren't
there
were
no
resources
for
for
these
students,
public
or
private,
and
I
simply
asked
is
the
problem,
a
money
problem
in
that
we
need
more
money
for
paying
for
these
students,
get
the
resources
or
is
it
a
resource
problem?
O
We
not
have
the
programs
available
and
I
still
have
not
seen
one
list
of
any
of
the
programs
that
any
of
these
students
are
participating
in,
and
my
fear
is,
is
that
we
are
going
to
have
parents
pulling
their
kids
out
of
school
with
with
no
ability
to
return
them
to
the
school
after
they,
after
they
pull
out
and
and
and
relinquish
their
that
that
ability
to
go
back
and
then
they're
not
going
to
find
the
resources
that
these
these
students
have
and
then
we're
not
going
to
have
the
ability
to
understand
where
they
are,
what
they're
doing
track
the
efficacy
of
of
the
programs,
and
I
I
threw
a
lot
out
there
at
you
and
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
necessarily
looking
for
a
comment,
but
I
I
just
I
I
would
really
like
to
know
where
we
do.
C
It
is,
and
I'm
sorry
I
don't
have
that
list
in
front
of
me
and
from
seven
years
ago.
I
would
not
want
to
trust
my
complete
memory,
but
I
know
when
we
ran
the
bill.
Senator
gresham
ran
it
in
the
senate,
and
so
we
did
compromise
because
in
the
beginning
we
just
asked,
for
you
know
the
disability,
the
sped
and
the
the
ones
that
have
iep,
and
so
but
as
we
work
through
the
process,
there
were
concerns
about
different
things,
so
we
whittled
it
down.
I
know
it
was.
C
C
C
My
school
is
not
able
to
provide
me
with
what
I
think
would
help
my
child,
and
I
would
rather
use
this
and
they
do
if
it
doesn't
what
they've
done
doesn't
work
or
it's
not
giving
them
the
results
they
want.
They
can
bring
their
child
back,
they
they
can,
so
it
doesn't
bar
them
forever
from
from
ever
coming
back,
and
so
it's
again,
I
think
it
is
a
smaller
segment.
That's
going
to
want
to
go
through
that,
but
it's
again
they
they're
testing
is
they
they
do.
C
They
can
either
ask
the
school
to
give
the
tcap
test
it's
not
as
robust
as
we
think
of
our
students
that
are
there
just
that
are
not
with
the
iep,
but
they
are
tested,
and
so.
O
Representative
freeman,
sorry
last
one,
I'm
sorry
and
again,
if
they,
if
they
are
tested,
I've
asked
for
those
test
results.
I
I
just
wanted
to
see
and
I've
I've
not
seen
any
test
results,
any
indication
of
where
these
students
are
who
they
are,
what
services
they're
getting,
how
effective
they
are
and-
and
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
what
is
actually
best
and-
and
you
stated
that
they
can
return,
they
can
return.
But
my
understanding
is:
they
can't
return
until
the
following
school
year,
because
they've
already
drawn
down
that
money.
O
So
if
they
get
out
and
decide
that
this
isn't
a
good
fit
they
they're
out
of
school
for
a
year,
and
I
just
again
I
fully
support
exactly
what
you're
trying
to
do
here.
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I've
got
all
the
information
that
that
is
out
there
for
me
to
make
the
right
decision
and
and
I've
asked
for,
and
I
just
don't
think
that
that
I've
I've
gotten
it
so.
O
A
C
Thank
you
chairman,
so
what
I'm?
I'm
I'm
disappointed
to
hear
that
the
department's
not
providing
that,
and
I
don't.
I
cannot
tell
you
why
they're
not,
and
I
will
do
everything
in
my
power
to
make
sure
that
is
that
is
we
know
that
because
I
would
never
run
a
bill
in
the
beginning
that
would
not
have
had
accountability
to
the
taxpayers
money.
C
I'm
up
here
to
watch
over
that
too,
and
I'm
not
saying
you're
accusing
me
that
at
all
I
I'm
in
agreement
with
you
that
that,
if
I,
why
can't
our
department
provide
that-
and
I
have
not
asked
for
that
just
here
in
the
distant
past
near
distant
past.
But
that
is
disappointing
to
me,
but
I
assure
you
when
we
ran
that
bill
and
we
made
sure
all
these
things
were
in
this.
C
C
C
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
chairman
moody.
I
really
appreciate
this
bill.
In
fact,
there's
someone
in
my
district
who
it
sounds
to
me
just
reading
it
is
this
would
be
applicable
to.
I
have
a
constituent
whose
son
has
he's
blind
in
one
eye.
He
has
dyslexia
in
the
other
eye
and
he
has
a
lot
of
trouble
understanding
math.
He
also
has
a
condition
where
he
has
to
take
human
growth
hormone,
because
it's
a
genetic
condition.
N
So
this
little
boy
has
a
lot
of
challenges
and
they've.
You
know
they've
been
working
with
the
school
to
try
to
help
him,
but
recently
his
parents
decided
to
go
outside
and
get
a
tutor
of
their
own
and
they
found
a
graduate
student
in
west
tennessee
they're
right
here
in
mount
julia
they're,
using
a
graduate
student
in
west
tennessee
through
zoom,
and
they
are
getting
their
son
help
that
he
needs
and
they're
really
satisfied
with
this
tutor,
it's
a
little
expensive.
N
C
Thank
you
thank
you
for
that
example,
and
the
again
also
in
the
original
bill,
which
is,
is
still
there
that
if,
as
a
parent
is
found
to
have
misused
those
funds,
they
are
required
to
pay
it
back.
C
H
Thank
you,
chairman
to
the
sponsor.
I
love
this
bill.
I
was
very
dyslexic
as
a
child.
I
guess
still
am
very
dyslexic.
I've
always
had
trouble
reading
and
my
parents
definitely
moved
me
around
to
find
the
best
school
that
was
suited
and
got
the
right
conditions
to
help
me
and
support
my
education.
I
cared
nothing
about
education.
H
I
just
wanted
to
play
football,
but
my
mom
wanted
me
to
to
read
and
do
well
in
school,
and
you
know
the
parents
do
do
know
best
for
what's
good
for
their
children,
so
I
I
definitely
support
this
piece
of
legislation.
C
Thank
you
for
that,
and
you
know
not
necessarily
all
these
disabilities
that
we've
mentioned,
but,
as
is
the
case
in
the
disability
world,
the
earlier
the
intervention,
the
likely
there's
more
success,
and
so
in
your
case
we
know
how
important
it
is
to
be
able
to
read
and
we've
got
the
big
push
for
literacy
and
all,
and
so
it's
it
is
very
important
and
thank
you
for
your
words.
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chairman
committee,
chairman
moody,
thank
you
for
bringing
this.
I
know
your
heart's
in
the
right
place
and
I
think
everybody
on
this
committee
agrees
with
where
your
heart
is
and
and
but
I
do
want
to
make
a
point.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
I
think
the
governor
has
identified
these
issues
in
the
new
budget
for
the
tisa
funding
formula
that
addresses
the
weights
and
measures
of
these
in
the
local
leas
and
gives
them
the
tools
to
you
know
to
address
these
concerns.
I
So
so
I
think
that
you
know
we're
gonna
be
able
to
make
some
headway
here
either
way,
so
so,
but
anyway,
thank
you,
chair
lady
moody,.
C
But
again,
I
think
what
this
is
just
trying
to
address
is
for
those
parents
that
are
seeing
what
they're
being
offered
is
not
working
for
them
to
be
able
to
have
an
avenue
to
try
something
different
and
it's
it's
just
the
parents
that
have
been
using
it.
These
past
few
years
have
just
been
so
grateful
to
have
had
it
and
to
have
gotten
their
child
that
intervention
that
they
needed,
and
so
we
just
wanted
to
give
a
few
more
that
same
opportunity,
and
so
I
think
they
could
work
hand
in
hand
again.
C
The
schools
are
doing
a
phenomenal
job.
So
that's
why
the
numbers
so
small
of
the
people
that
have
participated
and
that
we
would
even
expect
to
participate.
Should
this
pass.
But
thank
you
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
H
So
in
some
capacity,
if
we
don't
offer
off-site
tutoring
or
some
other
mechanism
where
those
children
could
get
one-on-one
individual
attention
daily
or
at
least
two
three
times
a
week,
we're
gonna
allocate
a
lot
of
money
and
see
no
improvement
whatsoever.
But
that's
my
soapbox
and
I'll
stop
with
that.
Thank
you.
O
C
A
Further
discussion-
and
I
guess,
as
as
you
decide
whether
or
not
you
want
to
discuss
this
any
further,
listen
to
the
discussion.
I
think
the
concerns
that
the
committee
have
raised.
I
think
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
when
it
comes
to
accounting,
the
accountability
piece
so,
which
is
why
I
struggle
with
this
bill
and
why
I'll,
unfortunately,
chair
lady
I'll
be
voting
no
on
it,
but
I
know
your
heart's
in
the
right
place
and
I
know
you've
worked
hard
on
this
bill,
and
so
thank
you.
A
A
A
A
C
C
C
So
we
in
tennessee
are
used
to
being
number
one
and
that's
a
good
thing,
because
that
means
we're
really
tough
on
this,
but
shared
hope
has
recalculated
as
we've
improved
and
and
then
even
as
we
always
know,
evil
finds
another
way.
So
this
they
have
recalculated
how
they
rank
the
states.
C
So
this
bill
is
in
reaction
to
some
of
the
a
lot
of
it's
it's.
It's
very
many
sections
of
laws
we
already
have,
but
the
focus
is
on
children
under
the
age
of
18..
So
it's
a
technical
bill.
It's
like,
I
said
it's
just
tweaking
things
that
we
already
have
in
law
and
but
just
to
bring
us
up
to
where
we
can
hopefully
get
that
number
one
ranking
back.
C
This
is
an
administration
bill
and,
and
I
have
a
lot
of
things
I
could
reach
you,
but
I
could
wait
and
see
if
you've
got
something
specific,
something
more.
You
need
to
ask
and
I'll
be
glad
to
try
to
answer.
A
A
F
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Chairman
kumar
members,
you've
heard
the
description
of
house
bill
2849
any
discussion,
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
2849,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye,
all
those
posts
know
the
eyes.
Have
it
house
bill
2849
news
to
full
finance?
Thank
you.
A
A
G
Chairman
of
members,
I
have
a
an
amendment
which
rewrites
the
bill:
drafting
code:
zero,
one
zero
one,
six,
eight.
A
Six
one
all
right:
you
have
a
motion,
a
second,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
this
amendment
put
onto
the
bill
since
it
does
make
it
any
discussion
on
the
amendment.
Seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
amendment
zero,
one,
six,
eight
six,
one
to
house
bill,
1218,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed.
No
the
eyes
have
it
we're
back
on
the
bill
as
amended
chairman
williams,
you're
recognized.
G
Thank
you,
chairman
of
members
house,
bill
1218,
creates
a
new
new
mark,
new
market
development
insurance
tax
credit
for
businesses,
cds,
which
are
community
development
entities
which
allows
for
investment
in
our
rural
communities
across
the
state
it
it
allows
for
50.
Currently,
the
federal
government
has
community
investment,
new
market
tax
credits
that
can
be
utilized
in
our
communities,
for
funding
small
projects
for
either
equipment
purchases
or
financing
development
in
our
rural
areas.
This
bill
would
allow
for
an
insurance
credit
to
be
realized.
Similarly
to
the
federal
entity
to
the
federal
government.
G
They
issue
billions
of
dollars
a
year
a
year
in
order
to
invest
in
our
local
communities.
Currently,
tennessee
does
not
have
a
local
insurance
tax
investment
credit.
This
would
create
a
system
by
which
we
could
do
that.
The
members
may
understand
or
know
in
appropriations
subcommittee
this
year
we
researched
about
community
tax,
community
investment,
tax
credits
and
their
impact
on
our
local
communities,
as
it
relates
to
investments
across
the
state.
G
G
A
P
You
chairman,
my
name,
is
ryan
dressler,
I'm
with
advantage
capital
advantage.
Capital
is
a
community
development
entity,
one
that
chairman
williams
mentioned.
We
participate
in
the
federal
new
markets
program
and
we're
one
of
the
largest
participants
winning
13
of
17
rounds
through
that
federal
program,
and
we've
invested
now,
860
million
dollars
in
small
businesses
across
the
country
supporting
about
32
000
jobs
with
an
average
wage
of
about
fifty
thousand
dollars
the
goal.
P
The
state
program
is
to
drive
investment
into
small
businesses
exclusively
in
rural
counties
in
tennessee
that
are
in
these
under
served
and
under
banked
areas,
and
all
of
the
businesses
would
be
small.
A
couple
examples:
one
example:
a
company
that's
received
financing
through
this
program
in
tennessee
already
is
anderson
meets
in
hartsville.
It's
a
small
custom
meat,
packing
plant
and
processing
plant
that
went
from
nothing
to
now
having
about
10
jobs
since
opening.
So
that's
an
example
of
a
type
of
business
that
couldn't
get
financing
otherwise.
P
Another
example
is
a
company
we
invested
in
in
cynthiana
kentucky
a
town
of
about
6
500..
They
went
from
about
180
jobs,
to
about
250
jobs,
they
manufacture,
waste
trucks
and
then
cement
mixers,
and
it's
a
really
strong
and
the
largest
private
employer
in
that
in
that
area
now,
and
they
offer
a
wage
20
an
hour
which
is
double
the
county
wage.
So
the
last
thing
here
I'll
finish
and
then
answer
any
questions.
There's
14
states
that
have
a
state
new
markets
program
with
that
primary
goal
to
attract
the
five
billion
dollars
a
year.
P
That's
authorized
annually
to
be
invested
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
because
it's
not
a
pro
rata
program.
Five
neighbors
of
tennessee,
you
got
alabama,
mississippi,
arkansas,
missouri
and
kentucky
all
have
new
markets
programs
and
a
regional
competitor.
Ohio
has
a
permanent
new
markets
program
so
I'll
leave
it
there
and
then
answer
any
questions.
G
Williams,
thank
you,
mr
drescher.
Thank
you
for
coming
today.
I
just
thought
if
you
could
share
with
the
committee
what
you
shared
with
me,
what
makes
this
important
to
our
state
is
by
setting
up
this
tax
credit
or
insurance
tax
credit.
Why
does
that?
Why
is
that
important
to
tennessee
in
differentiating
it
from
the
other
30
state
30,
some
odd
states
who
haven't
done
this
as
it
relates
to
businesses
like
yours,
that
invest
capital
in
states
all
across
the
united
states,
yeah.
P
G
Chairman
williams,
thank
you.
I
think
it's
really
important.
Of
course,
this.
This
tennessee
general
assembly
has
invested
millions
of
dollars
in
trying
to
assist
rural
communities
and
helping
them
to
grow.
This
is
a
way
in
which
we
can
provide
crap
credits
to
to
incentivize
businesses,
who
acquire
five
billion
dollars
from
the
of
federal
grant
funding
from
the
fed
in
order
to
invest
those
dollars
here.
So
the
synergy
of
it
is
what
allows
rural
communities
to
be
able
to
grow
and
thrive
where
they
might
like.
G
A
G
A
G
You're
recognized,
thank
you,
chairman
of
members.
As
a
member
of
this
committee,
I
recognize
that
this
does
set
aside
money
as
it
relates
to
tax
insurance,
tax
credits,
but
I
do
hope
that
the
members
will
consider
this
as
they
as
they
go
forward.
I
think
it
for
our
rural
communities
across
the
state.
It
would
be
a
it
would
be
not
just
an
incentive
for
businesses,
but
it
will
also
help
facilitate
growth
in
our
rural
communities,
which
is
only
good
for
this
state
as
as
a
whole.
With
that.
A
Thanks
all
right,
thank
you,
chairman
members,
any
questions.
Any
discussion
on
house
bill
1218
to
the
sponsor,
seeing
none
as
the
sponsor
is
already
loaded
to
there
is
a
cost
associated
with
house
bill
1218.
We
will
have
to
place
it
behind
the
budget
and
consider
it
at
a
later
date.
However,
since
the
bill
has
been
calendared
three
times,
we
will
need
to
place
it
on
a
special
calendar
to
be
published
with
our
final
calendar
percent
to
our
house
rules.
A
A
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
comedian.
Under
present
law,
disabled
veterans
of
purple
heart
recipients
are
eligible
for
one
free
memorial
license
plate
and
this
legislation
would
seek
to
add
an
additional
free
plate
to
our
disabled
veterans,
the
purple
heart
recipients
in
2014.
There
was
a
little
bit
of
a
budget
crunch,
I
believe,
and
they
they
were.
They
had
these,
and
this
pretty
much
just
restores
what
they
originally
had.
A
Seeing
none
house
bill
2045
does
have
a
cost
associated
with
it,
so
we
will
have
to
place
it
behind
the
budget
and
consider
it
a
later
day.
So
without
objection
behind
the
budget
brings
us
to
item
number
41
on
our
calendar
item
number
41
is
going
to
be
house
bill
2322
by
representative
grills.
You
have
a
motion
to
second
you're
recognized
for
a
brief
description.
M
Let
me
get
the
right
book
here.
Thank
you,
sir,
under
president
law,
disabled
veterans
and
purple
hearts
recipients,
obviously
they're
free
they're.
They
have
the
ability
to
get
the
license
plate,
but
this
bill
seeks
to
include
a
veterans
who
are
unemployable
due
to
service
related
injuries,
but
they're,
not
necessarily
100
disabled
they're,
just
100
percent
unemployable.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
representative
greels
members,
you've
heard
the
description
of
house
bill
2322
any
discussion.
Seeing
none
house
bill,
23
22
does
have
a
cost
associated
with
it,
so
we
will
have
to
have.
We
will
have
to
place
it
behind
the
budget
and
consider
it
at
a
later
date.
So
without
objection
house
bill
2322
goes
behind.
The
budget
brings
us
to
item
number
42
on
our
calendars
house
bill
2802
by
representative
grills.
You
have
a
motion.
Second,
you
recognize
for
a
brief
description.
A
M
Chairman
committee,
this
is
probably
the
bill.
That
means
the
most
to
me
this
year.
This
this
recognizes
that
you
cannot
put
a
electronic
tracking
device
on
an
individual
without
their
consent.
We
have
a
little
girl
that
works
at
chick-fil-a
back
at
home
and
she
realized
there
was
some
some
electronic
device
trying
to
connect
to
her
phone
and
come
to
find
out.
Someone
had
placed
a
tracker
on
her
car
come
as
the
investigation
moved
forward.
M
It
looked
like
that
there
were
some
potential
sex
traffickers
watching
her
and
because
of
that,
I
started
looking
into
it
back
in
december,
and
this
is
where
the
genesis
of
this
bill
came
from
and
that's
where
we
are
today.
A
O
Thank
you
chairman,
and
this
may
be
a
a
really
dumb
question.
I
hope
someone
got
that
on
film,
but
what
about
minors?
If
you
have
a
child
that
you're
you,
you
want
to
put
a
tracker
in
their
book
bag
or
something
does
this.
Does
this
also
make
that
a
criminal,
offense,
representative
grylls.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
the
question.
In
other
committees,
we
have
established
that
that
is
not
the
intent
of
this
legislation
and
you
have
guardianship
over
that
individual.
You
have
the
ability
to
know
where
they
are
and-
and
you
have
permission
to
put
that
on
them,
because
you
are
the
guardian
great.
H
Thank
you,
chairman
does.
This
pertain
to.
I
know,
there's
there's
tracking
apps
on
your
phones
right
now
and
if
somebody
were
to
leave
their
phone
for
a
time
or
their
password
were
to
be
known,
somebody
can
enable
the
the
tracking
mode
of
their
iphone,
for
instance,
and
sync
the
phones
and
track
them
does
it
does
it
cover
mobile
devices?
Phones,
if
any
kind
of
but
spyware
was
installed
or
any
of
those
apps
that
enable
people
to
do
that,
and
you
can't
see
it
on
the
phone
representative
grills
specifically.
E
Joel
hayes
office
of
legal
services
representative
vogels
in
the
legislation,
what
we're
doing
is
redefining
course
of
conduct
as
regards
to
stalking.
E
So
what
this
would
state
is
that
it
includes
a
course
of
conduct
includes
one
instance
of
placing
an
electronic
tracking
device
without
the
consent
of
a
person
on
the
person
or
in
or
on
the
person's
property.
So
that
could
conceivably
extend
to
placing
some
type
of
spyware
on
someone's
phone
representative.
H
A
H
A
For
mr
hayes,
no
sir
okay,
any
questions
for
legal
saying.
No
without
objection,
we
go
back
into
session
representative
vogels,
now
you're
recognized.
H
So
to
the
sponsor,
would
you
be
open
to
a
motion
to
roll
this
one
week,
so
we
could
firm
up
some
of
the
language
pertaining
to
mobile
devices,
to
be
sure
that
somebody
couldn't,
without
your
knowledge,
it'd
be
nice
if
it
were
specifically
listed
in
the
legislation
and
more
specific,
because
I
think
right
now,
it's
it's
a
vague
at
best
to
whether
or
not
that
would
be
covered
representative.
M
Girls,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I'm
open
to
doing
anything
that
would
make
our
individuals
more
safe,
but
at
the
same
time
we
worked
with
the
da's
conference.
We
I
believe
we
wrote
this
bill
four
times
before
we
actually
filed
it
to
make
sure
that
we
had
everything
covered
as
much
as
possible,
and
obviously
I
don't
know
if
anyone's
in
here
it's
even
on
the
panel
that
could
testify,
but
I
would
I
just
want
to
see
the
bill
passed
in
some
fashion
to
give
some
of
these
individuals
like
shea
back
home,
some
protections
representative,
ogles.
H
G
You
I
just
hopefully
my
kids
aren't
watching,
but
I
have
I
have
devices
on
my
kids
in
order
to
to
to
and
they're
not
watching,
so
I
guess
and
and
they
don't
know
they're
on
there-
you
plug
them
into
the
the
computer
deal.
If
my
kid
could
my
kids
charge
me
with
a
crime
if
your
bill
passes.
M
For
girls,
if
you
have
guardianship
of
your
kids,
I
do
not
think
so
and
that's
what
we
wanted
to
make
sure.
When
zoe
and
I
went
back
and
forth
over
this
and
over
the
skin,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
parents
were
still
in
charge
of
the
children
in
their
home
and
if
they
had
guardianship
over
those
children.
G
G
I
I
think
we
absolutely
need
to
do
anything
we
can
to
protect
our
kids
here
as
well,
which
is
why
I
have
them
on
my
kids
cars
but
but
but
on
the
other
hand,
is
I
do
think
there
there's
some
benefit.
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
discomfort.
G
I
guess
you
could
say,
and
so
I'd
love
the
opportunity,
like
representative
vogels,
to
see
if
we
can
fix
this,
because
it
does
have
fiscal
notes
going
behind
the
budget,
so
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
really
amend
it
or
do
anything
afterwards
find
the
budget
it's
kind
of
an
oblivion.
But
if
we
get
in
the
right
posture,
I
think
it'd
be
good.
So.
A
E
Joel
hayes
office
of
legal
services,
chairman
williams,
this
course
of
conduct
is
applying
to
the
offense
of
stalking,
and
I
think
your
concerns
would
be
well
addressed
with
the
definition
of
stalking,
which
means
a
willful
course
of
conduct
involving
repeated
or
continuing
harassment
of
another
individual.
That
would
cause
a
reasonable
person
to
feel
terrorized,
frightened,
intimidated,
threatened,
harassed
or
molested,
and
that
actually
causes
the
victim
to
feel
terrorized.
Frightened,
intimidated,
threatened,
harassed
from
so
it's
requiring
that
that
courts
of
conduct
create
that
or
apply
to
stalk.
In
that
circumstance,
chairman
williams,.
G
You
have
a
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
don't
know
if
you
legal,
mr
hayes,
if
you
have
teenagers
but
those
apply
to
half
of
the
teenage
population,
but
I
I
will
say
that
the
I
appreciate
the
clarity
I
think
there
it
is.
It
is
still
a
little
vague,
but
I
I
appreciate
it.
It
sounds
to
me
like
in
the
instance
that
that
I
gave
earlier
that
it
would
would
not
apply.
Would
you
agree
with.
E
That
I
I
it
sounds
like
for
the
reasons
that
you
described
that
would
not
constitute
stalking.
Thank
you.
A
M
With
what
representative
ogle
said
earlier,
I'm
I'm
perfectly
fine
if
they,
if
there
needs
to
be
an
amendment.
Put
to
this
add
clarity,
even
chairman
williams,
I'm
fine
with
doing
that,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
pass
good
legislation
and
don't
do
anything
that
would
prohibit
parents
well.
A
Good
parents,
so
it
does
have
a
physical
note
associated
with
it,
so
we
would
place
it
safely
behind
the
budget.
You
would
have
time
to
work
on
it
for
a
little
while,
so
is
there
further
discussion
on
house
bill
2802,
seeing
nothing,
it
does
have
a
cost
associated
with
it,
so
we
are
going
to
place
it
behind
the
budget
and
consider
it
at
a
later
date.
So
without
objection
house
bill
2802
goes
behind
the
budget.
M
A
I
was
hoping
we
would
get
to.
I
saw
very
many
of
you
all
sitting
in
the
in
the
seats
there,
but
there's
nothing.
We
can
do.
We
are
out
of
time.
I've
tried
to
stretch
it
out
as
long
as
I
could
so
members
we're
going
to
roll
all
the
bills
that
were
not
taken
up
today
will
be
rolled
till
next
week's
calendar
and
we'll
be
taking
up
that
at
that
time.
Without
objection
so
moved
any
other
business
come
before
the
committee,
seeing
them
without
objection.
We
stand
adjourned.