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From YouTube: House Appropriations Subcommittee- March 8, 2021
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House Appropriations Subcommittee- March 8, 2021
B
B
E
Very
good
good
afternoon,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
come
today
and
present
to
you
activities
of
the
financial
stimulus
accountability
group
over
the
last
year.
It's
hard
to
believe
that
it
has
been
a
year,
but
I
know
that
many
of
you
have
it's
been
a
challenging
year
for
for
all
of
us,
as
well
as
your
constituents,
and
we
certainly
have
endeavored
to
try
to
make
sure
that
the
actions
of
this
this
group
have
been
have
been
a
benefit
to
the
state.
E
Our
presentation
today
really
will
encompass
the
spending
focusing
in
on
the
2.3
billion
dollars
that
made
up
the
coronavirus
relief
fund.
You'll
hear
us
talk
about.
It
is
crf
that
was
mainly
federal
dollars
that
that
that
went
into
stimulus
type
of
activities
over
the
last
year,
as
well
as
highlighting
some
of
the
other
funding
sources
that
have
been
made
available
to
the
state.
E
I
will
say
that,
for
the
purposes
of
of
this
presentation
today,
tony
tony
and
I
will
be
kind
of
sticking
to
the
numbers
that
this
is.
We
will
not
be
reporting
on
the
health
response,
as
as
it
was
as
it
related
to
covid
those
those
are.
Those
are
activities
that
would
better
be,
I
guess,
addressed
to
both
health
and
military
and
tema
as
a
part
of
unified
command,
but
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
answer
a
lot
of
the
questions
about
how
these
dollars
have
been
expended.
E
If,
if
you
haven't,
haven't
gotten
it
next,
you
know
we.
We
have
largely
utilized
federal
dollars,
federal
funds
for
all
of
our
expenditures
related
to
covet
19..
As
you're
aware,
these
funds
came
with
many
guidelines
and
restrictions.
I
don't
know
how
many
different
iterations
of
guidelines
that
we've
been
through,
but
but
many
many
iterations
as
we
have
gone
through
this
process
over
the
last
year.
We
know
that
we've
got
to
get
it
right
because
we
will
ultimately
be
audited
by
the
by
the
federal
government.
At
some
point.
E
The
legislature
drew
down
332
000
in
federal
funds
for
these
plexiglass
units
here
in
the
in
the
committee
rooms,
and
that's
that's
one
of
the
examples
you
if
you've
been
to
a
driver's
license
center
or
other
state
offices.
You
may
have
seen
similar
types,
similar
types
of
this
kind
of
thing,
and
that's
that's
just
one
of
the
expenditures
that
has
come
down
as
a
part
of
this
we
have.
E
We
have
have
have
focused
on
federal
dollars,
not
knowing
whether
or
not
we
were
going
to
have
enough
dollars
to
do
the
things
that
needed
to
be
done.
We
we,
we
did
include
75
million
dollars
in
the
fiscal
year
20
budget
and
an
additional
75
in
the
fiscal
year
21
budget,
and
so
we
we
will
continue
to
spend
all
the
federal
dollars.
First,
we've
got
additional
dollars
in
this
year's
budget
and
it
at
first
glance
that
may
seem
like
a
lot
of
state
funds
that
we're
putting
toward
this.
E
E
When
we,
when
we
look
at
kind
of
a
high
level
summary
of
the
packages
and
tony,
will
get
into
more
detail
of
what
we
have
seen
happening
so
far,
you
know
that
we've
had
two
already
passed
major
cares
packages
and
I'm
sure
that
you
bait
in
washington
about
the
the
package
that
is
being
considered
now,
that
is
going
back
and
forth
between
the
house
and
the
senate.
We
we
definitely
believe
there
will
be
a
third
package
that'll
come
about
in
the
in
the
coming
weeks.
E
This
this
just
kind
of
shows
you
the
variety
of
funds
that
have
come
in.
We,
in
addition
to
the
2.3
billion
related
to
crf,
we've
processed
8.4
billion
so
far
in
total
federal
spending
through
about
70
individual
grants
coming
into
tennessee
each
of
these
kind
of
have
their
own
set
of
rules
and
guidelines
that
have
to
be
carefully
followed
to
ensure
compliance.
E
This
is
the
dashboard
that
I
mentioned
earlier
and
this
this
dashboard
tracks
every
single
dollar
that
has
come
in
and
where
it
has
gone,
what
county
it
has
gone
to,
and
this
is
available,
24
7.
If
you
go
to
the
website,
we
can
we
we
can
let
you
know
where
this
is,
but
it's
on
the
fna
website,
and
what
this
covers
is
every
dollar
of
crf,
the
2.3
that
we're
talking
about
today
in
additional
this
covers
anything.
E
That's
that
is
passed
through
and
a
good
example
of
that
would
be
unemployment,
insurance
or
that
type
that
type
of
dollar.
That's
coming
in
from
the
federal
government
and
going
right
back
out
to
an
individual,
such
as
unemployment
benefit
as
as
well
as
any
funding.
That's
going
directly
from
going
going
directly
to
those
entities,
and
so
when
I
talk
about
the
15
billion
dollars
that
tennesseans
have
seen
in
result,
as
a
result
of
that,
that's
where
that's
coming
from
so
last
year.
E
E
As
you
know,
the
federal
government
passed
the
other
cares
bill
which
allowed
us
really
till
the
end
of
this
year
now
to
spend
all
those
funds,
of
course,
we'd
already
allocated
almost
all
of
them.
By
that
point,
we've
got
around
300
million
or
so
additional
dollars
that
that
will
be
allocated
from
that.
But,
as
I
said,
we
we
do
know
that
of
this
bill,
that's
being
debated
now,
there
will
be
additional
dollars
coming
in
into
the
state.
E
Finally,
these
are
kind
of
the
actions
of
our
fsag
group.
In
order
to
to
get
these
dollars
out
the
door
we
developed
12
programs
to
serve
tennesseans,
all
of
which
were
informed
by
the
fsaj
group
and
that
we
were
seeking
to
aid,
and
so
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
tony
now
to
start
getting
into
a
little
more
detail
about
where
the
dollars
went
and
then,
after
that
we'll
be
able
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
tony.
C
C
The
coronavirus
relief
fund,
which
commissioner
ely
mentioned
earlier,
are
approximated,
2.3
billion
and
then
recognizing
the
impact
of
the
temporary
increase
in
fmap
under
the
family.
First
coronavirus
response
act.
We
recognized
an
increase
in
revenues
to
the
state
of
358
million
dollars,
you're
also
aware
of
the
esser
fund,
which
went
directly
to
public
schools
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
the
higher
education
emergency
relief
fund
and
as
well
as
the
higher
education
emergency
relief
fund
and
then
a
another
grant
that
we
are
also
tracking.
C
However,
as
that
data
becomes
more
voluminous,
it
becomes
a
little
bit
more
challenging
to
track
that
accurately
and
our
updates
become
a
little
less
frequent.
But
today
we
haven't
experienced
universal
difficulty
in
tracking
that
and
feel
very
good
about
these
numbers
that
the
federal
government
is
giving
to
us.
C
There
were
also
department
of
transportation,
transit
infrastructure
grants
that
went
directly
to
local
entities
outside
of
the
state,
those
exceeded
164
million
dollars
and
then
dot
airport
grants
which
went
directly
to
airports,
both
our
general
service
and
our
commercial
service
airports
again.
This
does
not
account
for
funds
authorized
under
the
omnimo
bus
ba
act
in
december,
as
well
as
the
funds
under
discussion
today
in
congress,
the
biggest
focus
and
the
and
the
biggest
volume
of
work
of
the
fsag
group
has
been
on
the
coronavirus
relief
fund.
C
Under
the
cares
act,
guidance
was
issued
in
april
and
we
were
under
a
short-term
user
to
lose
it
restriction,
at
which
point
in
which
that
december
30th
2020
these
funds
were
going
to
expire
and
revert
back
to
the
federal
government.
So
across
the
country,
governor's
offices,
departments
of
budget
officers
and
many
city
and
county
officials
were
working
very
very
quickly
to
get
these
funds
administered
appropriately
and
in
line
with
federal
guidance
that
was
updated,
often
in
fact,
the
limitations
on
these
funds.
C
The
main
limitation
is
that
these
funds
may
only
be
used
for
expenses
that
are
necessarily
incurred
to
mitigate
or
respond
to
covet
19.,
as
you
can
expect.
That's
on
first
glance,
it's
a
very
broad
limitation
subject
to
interpretation.
Tr,
u.s
treasury
provided
ongoing
guidance
on
what
that
mean.
The
guidance
was
updated,
also
helped
inform
congress's
changes
or
decision
ultimately
to
extend
that
deadline
a
year
in
light
of
some
vocalized
frustration
amongst
other
states
and
other
recipients
of
those
funds.
C
E
Let
me
just
add
one
quick
point
there.
The
last
point
we
have
on
this
slide-
and
that
is
is
to
rest
assured
from
what
I
mentioned
earlier
about
expending
these
funds.
We
already
have
enough
those
those
standards
that
tony
just
mentioned
to
where
those
then
of
themselves
would
would
continue
to
pay
out
the
remainder
of
those
funds
that
are
there
so
we're
in
no
jeopardy
not
being
able
to
expend
those
funds.
The
question
that
we
have
is,
since
we
have
those
they
extended
that
time
period.
E
It
does,
though,
kind
of
demonstrate
the
fact
that
having
those
funds
available
were
important
to
us
on
the
front
end
those
state
funds
to
where
we
could
have
we,
we
could
have
leaned
back
on
that
if
necessary,
and
that's
the
reason
we
we
continue
and
we'll
be
able
to
figure
out
what
to
do
with
them.
So
go
ahead.
C
E
C
C
Going
through
these
next
two
slides,
we'll
focus
on
our
economic
community
and
individual
relief
programs
and
I'll
go
through
each
one
of
these
and
priority.
I
won't
go
into
too
much
detail
on
the
trust
fund.
I
know,
commissioner
ely
will
have
a
few
more
items,
a
few
more
notes
on
that
later
in
the
presentation.
But
I
will
we'll
we'll
note
that
that
helped
prevent
a
300
tax
increase
on
our
unemployment
and
premiums.
Premiums
for
employers.
C
The
next
major
priority
and
the
first
priority
that
was
established
by
the
fsag
group
for
direct
relief.
Tennesseans
was
the
tbrp
business
relief
program
or
the
tennessee
business
relief
program
administered
by
the
tennessee
department
of
revenue
that
supported
the
receipt
of
grant
direct
grants
by
over
27
000
businesses.
It
relied
on
the
tax
system
for
a
streamlined
distribution
process
and
leverage
for
us
was
was
limited
in
some
respects
by
the
guidance
that
we
had,
which
required
us
to
through
department
of
revenue.
C
Of
course,
as
members
of
the
committee
are
aware,
not
all
businesses
and
job
creators
have
reportable
sales
tax
through
the
sales
tax
system,
which
is
why
we
establish
the
surge
business
relief
program.
As
a
follow-up
to
the
tennessee
business
relief
program,
under
the
guidance
we
are
required
to
have
that
established,
individualized
analysis
for
each
recipient.
C
The
surge
business
relief
program
allows
those
businesses
who
were
not
captured
in
our
sales
tax
system
to
be
able
to
apply,
make
application
and
demonstrate
through
bank
records
or
other
financial
statements
that
they
had
incurred
loss
as
a
result
of
the
coveted
19
pandemic
and
corresponding
economic
downturn
across
those
two
programs.
We're
projecting
over
300
million
dollars
in
relief
and
today
have
paid
over
nearly
240
million
dollars.
Of
that
the
tennessee
community
cares
program.
Was
another
program
established
to
support
many
of
our
worthy
tennessee
organizations,
specifically
501
c
3
nonprofits.
C
One
were
much
more
necessary
in
the
immediate
response
to
the
pandemic,
but
two
were
also
eligible
for
reimbursement
under
coronavirus
relief
fund.
What
was
required
in
order
to
get
those
funds
to
the
nonprofits
was
a
program
and
a
process
by
which
those
expenses
were
validated
and
eventually
reimbursed.
So
we
worked
with
our
partners
at
the
department
of
human
services
to
stand
up.
C
Understanding
that,
in
many
cases,
federal
participation
in
a
federal
grant
is
not
a
core
expertise
for
a
lot
of
non-profit
agencies.
Their
core
expertise
is
in
serving
tennesseans,
so
by
working
with
those
grant
administrators
who
may
have
more
experience
and
our
dhs
professionals
we're
able
to
help
help
them
to
walk
through
that
process,
which
in
many
ways
is,
can
can
sometimes
be
very
daunting
and
intimidating.
C
Yes,
sir,
and
that's
one
other
thing
and
that
we
were
required
to
do
that
for
united
states
treasury,
and
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
was
one
of
our
developing.
That
system
was
our
first
course
of
action
in
administering
these
funds
and
we
were
very
excited
to
roll
out
a
system
that
we
call
the
tennessee
cam
system.
C
C
The
horn
group,
which
was
able
to
a
business
analyst
group
which
was
able
to
help
us
develop
and
build
that
system
and
we're
very
pleased
and
have
learned
a
lot
of
great
lessons
in
the
development
of
that
system
that
grants
management
system
over
a
short
period
of
time.
It
feeds
into
the
dashboard
which
allows
members
of
the
committee
to
click
through
to
see.
If
you
wanted
to
know
how
many
agencies
in
putnam
county
participated
in
this,
you
would
be
able
to
find
that
information.
B
I
don't
want
to
interrupt
you
too
much,
because
I
know
we
have
some
members
who
are
already
on
the
list
for
questions,
so
I
thought
maybe
if
we
could
try
to
scurry
through
the
remainder.
The
next
slide.
16
looks
pretty
self-explanatory,
like
you
did
the
other,
but
I
noticed
that
you've
also
got
some
character
ii
stuff
on
there
too.
So
why
don't
you
speed.
B
C
C
That's
going
to
result
in
some
savings
that
number-
that
is
the
number
as
of
december
30th
projected
200
million
dollars
to
support
our
state
and
local
cost
share.
Typically
with
team
up
fema
public
relief.
There's
a
25
cost
share.
The
bond
administration
on
january
21st
announced
that
that
25
cost
share
would
be
waived
retroactively,
which
means
that
for
purposes
of
managing
this
coronavirus
relief
fund
grant
this
2.3
billion
dollars.
We
will
de-obligate
those
funds
from
the
team
of
response,
since
they're
no
longer
necessary
and
allocate
them
to
other
strategic
uses.
E
C
We
will
also
give
you
funds
for
the
same
purpose
cares
two
also
known
as
the
coronavius
relief
and
response
supplemental
appropriations
act
of
2021
was
passed
in
december.
We
are
at
various
points
in
in
the
process
of
processing
those
actual
individual
grant
awards.
Some
are
farther
along
than
others.
They
do
depend
on
federal
agency
action
in
order
to
make
its
way
down
to
the
state
which
includes
the
agreements,
the
certification,
but
primarily
for
our
purposes.
The
eligibility
and
limitations
on
use
of
funds.
C
You'll
notice,
a
pretty
impactful
figure
here
in
sr2,
which
was
nearly
a
billion
dollars,
996
million
dollars
that
went
directly
to
lease.
That's
on
top
of
that
260
million
dollar
number
cited
earlier
so
already,
even
before
this
package,
that's
being
considered
by
congress
right
now,
over
a
billion
dollars
in
new
federal
funds
have
fled
through
directly
to
tennessee
public
schools.
C
The
health
care
funding
provides
additional
relief
on
top
of
that
fema
relief,
which
I
described
earlier.
61
million
dollars
for
vaccine
support
and
393
additional
million
million
for
for
testing
and
tracing
and
then
currently
underway,
is
with
the
tennessee
housing
development
agency
as
a
emergency
rental
assistance
program.
That
was
approximately
380
million
dollars
that
made
its
way
to
tennessee
and
is
available
to
applicants
who
are
experiencing
challenges
and
making
the
rent
payments
due
to
cobit
19.
C
we're
tracking
these
funds
closely
and
working
closely
with
agency
leaders
to
make
sure
all
these
funds
are
fully
implemented.
But
one
of
the
other
benefits
of
these
non-coron
virus
relief
or
one
of
the
other
features
of
these
grants
that
are
not
chronovirus
relief
fund
grants
is,
they
typically
have
much
longer
grant
periods
of
performance
so,
for
instance,
sr2
extends
well
into
next
year,
rather
than
expiring
on
december
of
this
year
and
providing
that
urgency.
Although
we
are
encouraging
all
recipients
to
treat
this
with
the
urgency
of
this.
E
C
And
we've
coordinated
closely.
I
know
you,
members
have
heard
from
director
perry's
office
at
thda,
but
if
a
individual
from
shelby
county
back
to
shelby
county,
which
chose
to
administer
its
own
funds
rather
than
having
those
run
through
the
state,
so
there's
great
coordination
amongst
the
local
housing
agencies
and
the
state
housing
agency.
But-
and
we
are-
but
we
do
want
to
be
sensitive
to
the
fact
that
we
we
do
not
want
to
create
confusion
by
having
programs.
So
that's
why
the
state
program
does
not
overlap
with
these
local
programs.
C
B
You
know,
I
think
I
think
we
do
have
a
lot
of
several
questions.
I
will
draw
a
note
to
the
members
on
your
dashboard.
You
have
their
whole
presentation
for
your
review.
If
you
want,
I
think
the
next
slide
shows
a
little
bit
of
how
well-prepared
we
were
for
unemployment
insurance
as
it
relates
to
others.
I
would
guess
you
call
this
the
periodic
table
of
unemployment
insurance,
but
I
thought
maybe
I
was
in
science
class
and
I
sent
that
over
today,
but
we
do
have
several
questions.
I
appreciate
your
candor.
B
Obviously,
these
kinds
of
revenues
from
the
state
or
to
the
states
from
the
federal
government
have
never
been
seen
before
in
our
state's
history,
and
so
we
really
appreciate
the
diligence
in
which
you
and
your
department
and
and
all
the
teammates
team
members
across
the
state
have
done
that.
So
we
do
have
a
few
questions,
and
so
I'm
going
to
get
to
those
real,
quick
and
then
we'll
try
to
save
four
or
five
minutes
at
the
end.
For
you
to
update
us
on
the
balance
representative
miller.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
commissioner,
thank
you.
I
have
a
question.
Actually
it's
a
committed
question.
You
may
have
already
answered
this,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
the
carers
act
provided
funding
for
tennessee
care.
You
utilizing
about
six
percent
increase
in
the
amount
that
we
traditionally
get.
A
E
That's
a
great
great
question
and
they
they
have
done
that,
and
so
we
we
anticipate
we
in
conversations
that
we've
had
with
with
the
federal
government
that
they
will
be
extending
that
through
the
end
of
the
year.
So
we
already,
we
already
know
that
that's
their
intent.
The
current
language
I
think,
goes
through
april
right
tony,
but
but
we
anticipate
that
that
will
continue
through
the
year
end.
C
The
official
expiration
date
per
the
last
extension,
so
the
family
first
coronavirus
response
act,
established
that
and
established
it
for
the
dependency
of
the
hhs
declared
public
health
emergency
hhs
on
january
21st
issued
a
notice
to
states
that
it
would
be
extending
the
public
health
emergency
declaration
for
90
days,
but
in
that
communication
said
they
intend
to
extend
it
for
the
rest
of
the
year
and
at
which
point
they
decide
to
let
it
expire.
They
will
give
states
60
days
notice.
B
B
E
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Chris.
Thank
you
for
being
here
again
a
couple
couple,
quick
questions.
Our
chairman
even
mentioned
how
much
federal
dollars
are
coming
down
here,
a
little
bit
unprecedented,
but
over
2.1
billion
dollars
coming
here
under
our
federal
code
relief
program
and
of
course
our
own
budget
includes
200
million
dollars
worth
of
relief.
I
was
curious
on
how
any
of
this
money
from
the
federal
government's
being
tracked
by
us.
Do
you
have
any
insight
into
that
and
I've
got
a
couple
of
follow-ups
after
that.
A
E
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it
was
that
it
was
done
properly
and
we
tracked
every
dollar,
and
we
understood,
as
tony
pointed
out,
every
one
of
those
different
places
that
those
dollars
went
came
with
guidelines
and
rules
and
regulations
that
we
had
to
meet
and
they
changed
multiple
times.
I
mean
like
every
month.
They
give
you
a
little
bit
more
information
or
sometimes
take
away
a
little
bit
of
information,
and
so
it
was
a
little
bit
of
a
moving
target.
E
A
A
As
far
as
whether
or
not
we
can
go
back
and
reimburse
those
costs
with
the
coronavirus
relief
fund
dollars,
and
so
we
get
a
weekly
report
from
all
agency
fiscal
offices.
I
think
the
the
report
I
got
last
week
was
week.
Number
40.
so
that
that's
what
we've
been
doing
and
and
tracking
tracking
those
expenditures
across
all
agencies
across
all
branches.
So,
as
commissioner
mentioned
earlier
in
the
presentation
we
get
notices
from
from
the
legislature's
admin
office
to
when
they
have
spending.
A
With
I'm
great
that's
thrilled
to
hear
the
way
you
were
tracking
this,
I'm
not
really
sure
how
you
all
would
do
that.
So
I'm
pleased
to
hear
that,
are
you
aware,
and
with
this
money
coming
down,
are
there
any
restrictions
on
the
funds
imposed
by
the
federal
government
for
the
cities
and
the
counties
that
are
actually
receiving
these
funds
or
or
what
sort
of
the
protocols?
And
what
are
what
are
they
supposed
to
do
with
these
funds
and
as
it
relates
to
those
restrictions.
E
E
E
B
You
very
much,
commissioner,
thank
you.
I
had
a
a
quick
question.
The
legislature
approved
just
as
a
follow-up,
the
the
legislature
approved
and
fy
20,
75
million
dollars
in
the
budget
for
covid
relief
funding.
Those
are
state
dollars
set
aside
in
21.
When
we
came
back
and
did
the
money
again,
we
did
another
75
million
dollars
for
a
total
of
150..
I
know
that
the
governor's
budget
also
includes
another
150
million
dollars
for
fy22.
B
So
when
we
look
at
this,
though,
based
on
your
discussion
about
how
those
federal
rules
have
unencumbered
us,
I
guess
you
could
say
financially
less
and
less
over
the
over
this
period
of
time
that
first
75
million
dollars
that
the
state
set
aside.
How
much
of
that
have
we
spent
how
much
of
the
second
75
million
dollars
have
we
spent
and
because
of
this
new
guidance
from
the
fed
that
we're
not
having
to
match
25-75
based
upon
the
reporting?
E
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question
chairman
and
one
we
we've
debated
a
lot
internally,
so
the
good
news
is,
is
we
hadn't
spent
any
of
those
dollars
because
of
the
changes
that
we
were
able
to
do
to
to
get
the
federal
government
to
to
cover
those
expenses?
We've
been
able
to
avoid
spending
those
those
dollars
from
fiscal
year,
20
fiscal
year
21
as
well.
E
Recognizing
that,
if
we
get
through
this
this
year
and
the
vaccination
goes
well
and
and
everything
goes
as
expected,
then
we'll
we'll
be
able
to
revert
some
of
those
dollars
back
in
in
next
year's
budget
and
and
have
those
dollars
to
spend
on
other
things.
But
it
just.
It
seemed
to
be
the
prudent
thing
to
do
to
make
sure
that
we
were
prepared.
E
B
It
I
I
appreciate
the
the
work
that
that
you
guys
have
done.
I
think
you
know
when
you
look
at
300
million
dollars
based
upon
how
much
money
they
spent
sentence
is
still
only
12.
13
percent
of
the
total
number
they've
said
so,
even
if
we
were
trying
to
match
it
at
25,
we're
still
woefully
short.
I
get
that.
I
think
the
the
guidance
also
changes
your
mind
a
little
bit
about
you
know
how
much
do
we
really
need
to
set
aside,
but
I
appreciate
you
answering
that
question.
A
Good
to
see
you,
I
think
your
day
has
been
almost
as
long
as
mine.
So
just
a
quick
question
regarding
the
report:
there's
a
discrepancy
that
that
it
seems
to
be
a
discrepancy.
On
page
on
page
seven,
the
report
states
hhs
supplied
5811,
tennessee
hospitals,
a
portion
of
the
738.8
million
appropriation.
C
That's
that's.
I
appreciate
the
catch
there,
chairman
hicks
and
I
I
see
the
discrepancy
there,
that
should
say
5811,
tennessee
providers.
It
says
hospitals,
that's
an
error
in
the
report
and
we'll
get
that
corrected.
All
cms
registered
providers
receive
the
payment.
That's
physicians,
hospice
groups,
primary
care,
doctors,
I
think
hospitals.
There
was
just
a
drafting
error.
E
C
Yes,
sir,
and
so,
and
that's
part
of
the
challenge
that
we're
experiencing
so
those
funds
don't
actually
flow
through
the
department
of
health,
the
hhs
provider
relief
fund.
We
track
it
and
report
on
it
because
we
think
it's
important
to
know
for
planning
purposes
and
transparency
purposes,
but
that
actually
goes
directly
from
department
of
health
and
human
services
to
those
providers,
including
hospitals,
and
so
the
way
it
works.
Is
those
providers
get
a
notice?
C
They
get
a
link
to
a
portal,
they
upload
their
information
and
that
administration
and
and
oversight
is
all
handled
at
the
federal
level.
We
don't
have
any
direct
role
in
overseeing
those
funds,
but
we
do
report
on
them
because
we
think
it's
important
to
know
and
understand
the
scale
of
better
relief
going
out
there.
E
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Let
me
just
add
on
to
that.
So
that's
been
a
that's.
That's
been
an
important
point
throughout.
This
is
recognizing
that
this
fsag
group
that
that
we've
been
involved
with
over
the
last
year
is,
is
really
been
focused
on
that
2.3
billion,
but
we've
got
several
billion
more
dollars
that
have
been
coming
in
that
have
been
going
directly
to
either
providers
or
or
tony
mentioned,
the
amount
going
to
to
the
leas
that
have
been
outside
of
us,
and
so
it
is.
B
So
thank
you
several
years
ago.
I
guess
it
was
three
years
ago
the
legislature
passed
a
rural
hospitalization
stabilization
act.
It
was
three
years
of
one
million
dollar
funding
where
we
through
ecd
people,
rural
hospitals,
could
apply
for
grants
in
order
to
make
sure
that
rural
hospitals
stayed
open
across
the
state.
When
we
issued
these
dollars
obviously
cares
act.
Funding
for
these
hospitals,
as
chairman
hicks
related
to
was
there
anything
in
cares,
act
funding
which
was
designated
strictly
for
rural
hospitals
to
help
them.
B
Obviously,
if
we're
just
spending
money
by
sending
it
to
providers
or
we're
sending
it
to
individual
institutions,
that's
one
thing,
but
rural
hospitals
are
are
we're
already
strong,
obviously,
which
is
why
we
had
the
stabilization
act
over
the
years.
Did
cares
act
funding
do
anything
in
order
to
help
those
rural
hospitals
thrive
during
this
period
of
time,
and
if
so,
what
was
that.
C
C
There
was
a
high
impact
provider,
trench
of
funds
that
was
distributed
for
hospitals
who
had
100
or
more
coveted
inpatients,
and
then
there
was
a
rule
provider
fund
administered
and
so
unfortunately,
right
now
part
of
the
challenges
hhs
has
reported
those
despite
them
all
being
under
the
umbrella
provider.
Relief
has
reported
those
separately
so
we're
in
the
process
of
merging
those,
because
a
hospital
could
in
some
time
sometimes
qualify
for
more
than
one
tranche
of
funds.
C
That
was
launched
in
direct
response
prior
to
the
karazak
distribution
and
due
to
concerns
of
illiquidity
for
some
of
our
small
and
rural
hospitals,
and
so
those
funds
were
distributed
in
tandem,
as
in
some
respects,
the
provider
relief
funds
were
slow
to
get
out
there,
ultimately
that
10
million
dollars,
while
it
had
an
impact
for
a
few
hospitals.
It
was
absolutely
dwarfed
by
the
hhs
funds,
which
came
came
down
soon
thereafter.
B
Thank
you
I
just
on
page
16
and
continued
on
17.
It
talks
a
little
bit
about
those.
It
looks
like
based
upon
the
the
financial
accountability
report
that
those
29
rural
hospitals
that
did
receive
funding
for
those
they
the
state,
may
be
able
to
get
those
monies
back
or
have
the
federal
dollars
applied
towards
those.
So
we
might
just
check
into
that.
I
I
noticed
that
that
was
on
on
that
page.
C
Yes,
sir,
I
think
we
can.
We
can
certainly
look
into
that.
I
think
what
we
did
throughout
that
grant
process
is
we
we
made
sure
that
those
were
balanced
against
the
provider
relief
funds
or
what
the
what
this
those
hospitals
were
eligible
for,
but
if
we
do
find
an
overpayment,
we'll
certainly
address
that
as
part
of
the
monitoring
process.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
commissioner,
it's
good
to
see
you
today
for
years,
my
my
community,
where
forty
percent
of
people
I
speak
for
don't
have
access
to
internet
and
when
the
governor
said
he
was
putting
200
million.
I
immediately
was
excited
and
I've
done
some
research.
We
put
600
million
not
too
long
ago,
federal
governments,
but
61
million
now
we're
fixing
to
200
million.
So
just
a
few
questions,
that's
an
incredible
amount
of
money.
D
In
my
10
years,
everybody
says
over
you,
you
just
give
us
give
us
the
ability
to
compete
against
att
or
charter
and
we're
going
to
spread
it
out
there.
At
the
end
of
the
day.
For
my
people,
they
go
to
the
same
block
that
att
and
broadband
is,
and
nobody
cares
about
the
40
percent
that
are
deep
into
the
woods
me
personally.
I
don't
have
high
speed
because
I
live
so
far
out
in
the
country
which
I'm
not
complaining,
I'm
thankful
so
that
I
live
out
that
far.
D
But
my
question,
for
you
is:
how
are
we
going
to
regulate
this?
Is
this
just
going
to
be
everybody
who
can
just
willy-nilly
come
and
grab
money
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
show
we
invested
from
the
state
260
million,
and
this
is
what
we
have
to
show
for
today?
Can
you
kind
of
walk
me
through
that.
E
Yes,
sir
I'll
I'll
take
a
stab
at
it
and
I'll
also
say
that
I
don't
know
if
have
y'all
heard
from
ecd,
yet
I
don't
know
if
ecd's
been
before
committee
yet,
but
that's
a
it's
also
a
question
for
ecd
because
they
are
the
they
are
at
the
tip
of
the
spear
in
developing
the
program.
They'll
be
able
to
be
able
to
do
this.
Let
me
let
me
address
the
main,
the
main
question,
and
that
is
when
the
governor
was
talking
about
this.
E
Maybe
you
never
get
there,
but
that
should
be.
Our
aim
is
to
is
to
get
to
every
tennessee
in
in
this
process
and
the
261
million
that
you
point
out
doesn't
even
account
for
what
we've
done
over
the
last
five
years
or
six
years,
because
this
started
under
governor
haslam
before
governor
lee
came
into
office,
and
so
he
recognized,
though,
that
10
million
15
million
at
a
time
toward
this
effort
was
never
going
to
get
the
job
done.
E
E
I
I
know
I
can
address
the
intent,
the
the
process
that
we'll
use
it
will
be
similar
to
what
ecd
has
done
in
previous
years,
where
they
put
out
proposals
and
and
let
the
private
sector
and
the
utilities
come
in
and
and
put
their
proposals
as
to
how
many
people
they
would
cover
for
this
many
dollars
and
the
way
we
have
typically
done.
That
is
we've
done
that
kind
of
50
50,
where
the
state
has
subsidized
those
proposals.
E
Roughly
50
percent-
in
this
case
we
recognize
that
to
get
to
the
audience
to
get
to
the
people
that
we
really
need
to
get
to.
We
may
have
to
do
more
than
50
percent
we
may
have
to.
We
may
have
to
look
at
different
technology
than
in
the
exact
same
way
that
they've
been
doing
this
over
the
last
few
years,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
to
add
to
that
tony.
But
but
the
answer
to
it
is
we're
we're
going
to
approach
it
differently.
E
C
Now
I
wouldn't
add
anything
to
that.
I
think
you'll
be
very
pleased
with
ecd
strategy
here
that
works
backwards
off
of
just
some
very
clearly
defined
metrics
of
who's
unserved
out
there
and
also
incorporates
into
it
some
strategies
for
getting
better
data
on
who
is
uncertain.
Currently
we
rely
on
fcc
data
as
gaps
as
lags
to
it.
Part
of
the
process
that
will
be
implemented
very
quickly.
Here
will
be
our
own
tennessee.
E
D
Chairman
faith,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
that
that
was
my
thing
just
to
make
sure,
because
there's
been
so
much
talk
over
the
last
10
years.
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
your
office
before
y'all
put
the
green
light.
Is
this
they're
not
just
going
to
the
last
block
that
the
last
guy
went
to,
and
I
mean
I'd
love
it?
If
you
came
to
my
house,
but
just
make
sure
we
get
people
deep
in
the
country
have
something
so
one
final
question,
though,
is
how
much
of
this
the
original
61
million
is
left?
E
C
E
Yeah,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna.
Let
tony
tony
and
his
team
have
been
following
that
on
a
federal
on
a
federal
basis.
Once
once
we
figure
out
what
we're
gonna
get
I'll
make
sure
it's
accounted
for,
but
but
that's
that's
a
great
question
and-
and
it's
still
somewhat
up
in
the
air,
but
I
think
we
have
a.
We
have
some
feel
for
what
that
would
look
like.
C
Yes,
sir
and
representative
miller,
the
challenge
part
of
the
difference
of
this
package-
that
is
departure
from
previous
formulas
before,
is
that
the
house
considered
in
the
senate
accepted
a
formula
that
was
majority
unemployment
based.
So
there
are
two
formulas
for
state
and
local
aid.
The
a
very
small
pot
of
approximately
25
billion
dollars
is
to
go
to
states
on
a
per
capita
states
and
district
of
columbia
on
a
per
capita
basis.
C
The
remainder
close
to
200
billion
dollars
goes
on
the
basis
of
a
pop
of
a
state's
share
of
the
national
unemployment
figures.
So
because
congress
has
not
calculated
out
what
those
look
like,
we
don't
know
what
the
exact
distributions
are.
We
know
that,
on
a
very
unofficial
basis,
if
we
trust
our
math
we're
looking
at
approximately
three
billion
dollars
to
the
state
of
tennessee
billion.
D
A
E
Point
three
and
last
well,
yes,
sir,
so
so
the
2.3
billion
was
part
of
the
coronavirus
relief
fund
that
we've
been
focused
on
here.
The
three
billion
that
we're
talking
about
will
not
necessarily
come
in
that
same
way.
It
it
likely
will
be
dictated
or
allocated
directly
to
a
lot
of
the
providers
in
a
lot
of
the
entities.
Similarly
to
where
these
dollars
were.
C
C
The
amounts
are
significant
and
important,
but
it
really
does
come
down
to
what
can
those
funds
be
used
for
because
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
with
the
coronavirus
relief
fund
in
getting
those
to
where
it
needs
to
go
was
the
federal
guidance
that
was
often
changing
the
limitations
that
were
in
fact
a
challenge
for
a
lot
of
beneficiaries
to
follow
along
with
so
we're
very
we're
we're
waiting
to
see
what
the
straight?
I
guess,
the
strings
attached
to
those
funds
will
look
like.
A
One
one
final
question:
on
page
15
of
the
report:
it
describes
an
increase
in
expense
for
emergency
medical
service
ambulance
assistance
program.
I
think
about
867
thousand
dollars
to
that.
That
was
to
being
reimbursed
through
an
expense
related
to
the
installation
for
disinfecting
uv
light
systems
with
the
increase
in
funding.
How
does
this
affect
the
ambulance
service
assistant
and
will
it
would
we
have
the
increase
state,
spend
it
to
us
for
what
we
have
already
budgeted
for
to
maintain
our
state
match.
C
A
E
I'd
go
ahead
and
talk
I'll
keep
this
short.
So
I
want
to
go
back
to
your
periodic
chart
and
I
hadn't
thought
about
it
that
way,
but
you're
exactly
right.
So
I'll
just
point
out
the
the
obvious
is
that
tennessee
has
been
fortunate
to
be
in
the
position
that
we're
in,
because
we
have
been
much
much
more
prepared
and
are
one
of
only
six
states
where
there
is
unemployment,
insurance,
trust
fund,
balance
of
over
a
billion
dollars.
E
And
so
that's
something
that
I
think
we
can
all
be
proud
of,
and
it's
something
that
not
only
helps
every
tennessee
business.
But
it
helps
everybody
in
tennessee
who
is
employed
by
tennessee
business
kind
of
closing
out
the
the
original
coronavirus
relief
fund,
the
2.3
billion,
even
though
we've
got
until
the
end
of
this
year.
To
do
that.
Our
intention
is
to
to
go
ahead
and
do
that
by
june
30
on
the
on
the
fiscal
year,
and
so
that's
what
we're
that's,
what
we're
shooting
for.
E
B
You
I
appreciate
you
coming
today.
I
know
there
were
a
couple
other
questions
we
didn't
get
to
we'll
just
email.
Those
to
you
have.
Hopefully
you
can
get
the
answers
back
to
us
in
a
timely
fashion.
I
guess
the
only
closing
question
I
had
for
you
is
as
long
as
there's
monies
coming
from
the
federal
government.
My
expectation
is,
the
fsag
will
continue
to
operate
or
I
mean.
E
Yes,
sir,
I
I
think
so
it's
been
it's
it's
it's
been
very
successful.
It's
been
a
great
collaborative
experience
between
act.
You
know
it's
a
bipartisan
group,
it's
members
of
the
house,
members
of
the
senate
speakers
and
the
governor,
and
so
I
I
think
we'll
continue
to
look
at
that,
but
we'll
see
how
much
leeway,
because
a
lot
of
the
purpose
of
that
group
was
continue
to
to
be
sure
that
that
that
we
had
input
and
advisory
from
that.