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House Finance, Ways, & Means Committee- March 1, 2022- House Hearing Room 1
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Congratulations
to
chairman
hicks
and
appropriate
solicitations
to
laura
chairman
lynn,.
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Hello,
madam
chairman,
I
can't
go
by
without
recognizing
my
former
sheriff.
Terry
ash
was
in
the
audience.
I
saw
him.
I
didn't
know
he
was
here
today,
but
hi
terry.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
in
spirit
of
going
along
with
what
representative
from
hawkins
county
brought
up,
I
wanted
y'all
to
know
that
my
son
tucker
turns
10
today
he's
elite
baby,
so
we
don't
celebrate
the
29th
step
once
every
four
years.
You
know
so
we
celebrate
him
on
march
1st
and
he's
not
watching,
but
maybe
one
day
he
will
see
this.
A
A
We're
we're
missing
a
sponsor.
So
I'm
sorry
if
I
would
read
my
notes,
chairman
curcio's
asked
for
this
to
be
rolled
one
week.
So
there's
a
good
reason
he's
not
here
we're
rolling
that
one
week
next
item
on
our
agenda
item
number
two
house
bill
2426
by
chairman
moon
and
chairman,
is
not
only
here.
He
is
ready
to
roll
so.
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E
Thank
you
chairman
and
to
the
committee
members
here.
This
was
brought
to
me
by
the
treasurer.
It's
a
pretty
much
a
cleanup
bill,
it's
house
bill
2340,
and
it
would
require
the
tennessee
interagency
cash
flow
committee
to
establish
and
maintain
a
cash
flow
report
on
a
periodic
basis.
Rather
than
establish
and
maintain
a
monthly
18-month
forward.
E
Rolling
cash
flow
projection
and
requires
it
to
be
posted
to
the
department
of
treasury's
website
specifies
that
the
six
locally
governed
universities
are
exempt
from
the
requirement
to
periodically
provide
information
relating
to
sources
and
uses
of
a
pooled
investment
fund.
Cash
requires
state
agencies
to
upon
request,
provide
class
cash
flow
projection
information
to
the
department
of
finance
and
administration.
In
addition
to
the
tennessee
interagency
cash
flow
committee,.
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We
have
a
motion
in
a
second
we've
heard.
The
explanation
from
the
sponsor
are
there
questions
question
has
been
called
on
the
bill
or
any
objections
to
calling
questions.
Seeing
none
we're
voting
on
house
bill
2340
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed.
You
guys
have
it
representative
carriager
your
bill.
Moves
on
to
calendar
and
rules.
A
E
Thank
you
chairman
that
very
straightforward
bill
that
just
makes
it
clear
that
you
can
only
get
one
expungement.
You
get
one
bite
at
the
apple
to
have
a
criminal
defense
expunged.
However,
if
you
have
had
an
offense
after
your
first
offense,
it
would
not
block
you
from
getting
that
true
initial
offense
expunged.
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Since
1954,
the
federal
tax
code
has
allowed
companies
to
immediately
deduct
r
d
expenses
in
the
year
they
were
actually
incurred,
so
this
bill
conforms
tennessee's
treatment
of
the
r
d
expense
deduction
to
the
practices
that
were
in
place
on
both
the
federal
and
state
prior
to
january
of
this
year.
I
stand
take
any
questions.
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Thank
you,
madam
chair
members.
I
appreciate
the
initial
support
I'm
hearing
from
my
colleagues
here
on
the
diocese
this
members.
This
is
a
clean
up
to
the
competitive
wireless
broadband
investment
deployment.
Safety
act
2008
night
2018
after
we
passed
that
bill,
the
fcc
a
couple
of
months
later
issued
new
regulations.
This
piece
of
legislation
puts
us
in
line
with
those
regulations.
This
is
one
of
the
rare
bills
I
have
carried
where
everyone
seems
to
agree.
A
Are
there
questions
of
the
sponsor
representative
shaw,
you're
recognized.
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This
legislation
is
just
correcting
or
clarifying
an
issue.
Current
law
requires
taxpayers
to
know
how
their
customers
are
going
to
file
and
pay
business
tax.
Some
customers
may
be
in
some
situations
a
retailer
in
other
situations,
a
wholesaler
so
with
no
way
to
know
how
their
customers
report
their
returns.
Taxpayers
are
forced
to
just
make
their
best
guess.
A
This
legislation
would
just
simply
set
up
a
certificate
system
so
that
the
person
the
company
selling
to
the
vendor
would
know
if
that
sale
was
wholesale
or
retail
in
nature,
they
would
know
the
way
to
report
and
to
pay
taxes
and
just
makes
things
simpler
for
both
the
department
of
revenue
and
for
the
customers
involved.
With
that,
I
would
and
ask
that
for
a
positive
vote.
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All
right,
thank
you,
chair
lady
hazelwood
members.
You've
heard
the
description.
Any
discussion
on
house
bill
1937.,
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
1937,
moving
on
to
calendar
and
rules,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed.
No
the
eyes
have
it
house
bill,
1937
moves
to
calendar
and.
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A
We
want
to
thank
you
for
the
the
good
work
that's
been
done,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
personally
from
everybody
in
this
assembly,
for
taking
care
of
us
truly
in
situations
can
arise
at
the
drop
of
a
hat
here,
and
we
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
state
troopers
are
always
ready,
willing
and
able
to
to
make
sure
that
we
can
safely
conduct
the
people's
business.
A
So
thank
you
for
that
with
with
that
and
members,
if
you
this
information
is
on
your
dashboard,
if
you
happen
not
to
have
your
laptop
or
your
ipad
with
you,
we
do
have
some
paper
copies
of
this
presentation.
If
you
need
it,
just
raise
your
hand
and
mr
poss
will
hand
those
to
you.
If
you
need
those
with
that,
we
will
just
ask
you
to
get
underway.
H
Thank
you,
chairman
hayeswood
members.
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
come
today
and
present
our
proposed
budget
presentation
to
you.
I
have
sonia
hadley,
who
is
our
director
of
budget
with
me,
colonel
matt
perry
with
tennessee
highway
patrol
elizabeth
stroker,
our
legislative
liaison
and
paula
shaw,
daniel
who
is
assistant
commissioner
of
driver
services.
H
What
I
thought,
if
you
will
allow
me
to
do
this
afternoon,
is
I'm
going
to
do
a
real,
quick
mentioning
of
our
request
and
then
in
respect
for
your
time.
Allow
you
to
have
plenty
of
time
to
ask
the
questions
that
you
may
have
so,
starting
with
our
statutory
salary
step
raises
for
our
troopers
the
amount
this
year
is
one
million
one
hundred
and
seventy
three
thousand
nine
hundred
dollars
number
two:
the
salary
survey
you're
familiar
with
for
the
thp
officers
and
troopers.
H
We
asked
the
the
administration
to
allow
the
money
to
be
placed
into
the
salary
survey
in
order
to
give
the
troopers
a
raise,
along
with
other
state
employees
this
year
and
that's
the
three
million
five
hundred
twenty
thousand
four
hundred
dollars.
H
I
have
since
I've,
been
the
commissioner
sort
of
made
a
a
stand.
I
guess
you
would
say
that
I
have
made
the
comments
that
it's
a
shame
that
since
9,
11
local
first
responders
still
can't
talk
to
each
other,
and
I
have
tried
to
make
it
a
priority,
while
I'm
here
to
make
sure
that
we
can
all
talk
together
on
a
radio
system
together,
and
we
have
started
that
in
2008,
a
radio
system
was
started
for
the
state
of
tennessee
at
600
million
dollars
about
115.
H
120
million
dollars
was
initially
invested.
In
that,
with
that
we've
added
on
business
customers
every
year,
more
agencies
we're
adding
on
more
agencies
now
and
we're
offering
it
to
all
of
the
local
partners
to
get
on
our
radio
system.
So
we
can
all
talk
together
and
over
a
a
period
of
time,
four
years
we
will
have
that
extended
out
which
will
cost
178
million
nine
hundred
and
four
thousand
four
hundred
dollars.
H
Also
with
that
system
we
have
a
maintenance
cost
every
year
and
that's
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
number
six
on
our
list
is
the
tennessee
highway
patrol
warehouse.
We
have
approximately
nine
million
dollars
in
specialized
equipment
also
including
ammunition,
including
high
maintenance
type
equipment
that
is
sometimes
sitting
out
in
the
weather
and
has
been
for
a
long
time
and
we're
wanting
to
try
to
get
a
place
to
store
that
and
get
it
in.
H
Also,
we
plan
to
relocate
four
divisions
of
the
highway
patrol
there
and
close
out
some
of
the
buildings
out
on
foster
avenue
that
general
services
wanted
to
take
and
sail.
It
will
help
them
clear
that
campus
at
a
quicker
rate,
we
will
put
those
four
units
in
this
building
and
then
also
it
will
give
us
an
opportunity
of
space
to
do
training
some
in
that
building.
Also
for
special
events
that
amount
is
862
500.
H
H
It's,
as
you
know,
in
dui
cases
where
individuals
have
these
devices
on
their
automobiles
in
order
to
start
their
automobiles
with
that
having
a
more
increased
in
number
that
are
signing
up
for
that,
we
need
three
more
staff
positions
in
order
to
handle
the
the
number
of
requests
and
calls
and
everything
that's
happening.
That's
a
hundred
and
sixty
two
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars.
We
have
that
money
already
in
the
money
for
the
funding
for
ignition
interlock
and
it
will
not
be
any
additional
cost.
It
will
come
out
of
our
budget
already.
H
Our
testing
that
we've
done
has
been
very,
very
successful,
and
so
we're
wanting
to
add
to
that
and
the
cost
for
adding
to
that
is
a
hundred
and
thirty
four
thousand
dollars
our
driver's
license
system
maintenance,
which
we
ask
for
every
year,
which
is
the
system
maintenance
that
operates
our
four
million
drive,
4.6
million
drivers.
Records
in
our
state
of
tennessee
is
very
expensive,
but
we
have
to
have
that
to
keep
it
operational.
That's
four
million
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
number
twelve.
H
Is
we
learned
during
the
christmas
day
bombing
here
in
nashville
that
we
are
lacking
on
critical
infrastructure?
H
Our
last
request
is
for
tasers
for
the
highway
patrol.
Naturally,
we
all
consider
that
a
less
lethal
mean
of
control
for
everyone.
We
already
have
197
of
those
on
the
road
or
ready
to
be
deployed
to
the
road,
but
we
want
to
be
able
to
distribute
them
out
at
one
time
for
every
trooper
on
the
road
across
this
state.
We
need
500
more
in
order
to
finish
that
initiative
and
that
500
will
cost
720
000.
A
Well,
thank
you,
commissioner.
We
I
do
have
people
on
the
list,
but
before
I
get
there
just
a
general
question
you
mentioned
on
the
the
new
radio
system,
the
178
million
dollars,
and
that
over
the
course
of
four
years
that
will
be
built
out
across
the
state.
That's.
A
Noticed
that
your
maintenance
dollars
are
staying
the
same
even
though
you're
going
to
be
significantly
expanding
the
system.
So
how
are
you
able
to
manage
to
do
that,
and-
and
would
that,
would
we
expect
to
see
that
number
increase
over
the
next
four
years.
H
If
we
get
the
approval
to
add
the
other
partnerships
onto
the
system,
we
have
the
negotiation
contract
with
motorola
for
the
maintenance
at
500
000..
As
long
as
they
just
bring
their
equipment
on,
it
won't
be
any
additional
cost.
If
we
have
to
build
out
more
broadband
space,
more
space
for
the
radio
network
and
such
then
we
may
have
to.
But
what
we're
trying
to
do
honestly
is.
We
are
looking
at
our
contracts
with
motorola
currently
and
we
are
trying
to
renegotiate
some
of
those
contracts.
H
A
That
sounds
a
lot
safer
than
getting
in
the
the
car
with
a
16
year
old
government.
But
where
are
are
you
implementing
that
and
are
obviously
we're
going
to
expand
it?
But
where
can
where
are
you
testing
using
that
methodology.
H
We
have
tested
already,
commissioner
shaw
in
10
counties,
10
counties
so
far
that
we've
tested
it.
We
started
it
actually
with
covid,
because
we
were
afraid
for
our
employee
to
get
in
the
vehicle
and
we
were
trying
to
find
an
alternative
method
for
testing
but
still
continue
testing,
and
we
did
the
video
cameras
and
worked
exceptionally
well,
and
so
we
thought
well.
This
is
a
good
program
to
do.
We
can
do
them
quicker.
H
We
can
do
it
much
more
efficiently
and
so
we're
wanting
to
expand
that
all
across
the
state,
wherever
we
can
do
it
in
a
station
that
has
the
roadway
that
we
can
utilize
the
cameras
zone
in
order
to
watch
there
are
some
that
won't
be
able
to
do
it
in
some
of
the
major
city
areas,
but
other
outlying
areas.
We're
wanting
to
try
to
do
it
in
as
many
as
we
possibly
can.
L
Thank
you
chair,
lady,
thank
you
for
being
here
today.
I
had
a
couple
questions
as
it
relates
to
cdl
testing.
I
noticed
that
you
had
two
line
items
in
the
budget
this
year.
One
was
for
994
thousand
dollars
under
944
000,
but
then
there
was
an
additional
9.7
million
dollars
for
tbr.
L
M
Sorry,
yes,
representative
williams,
the
the
money-
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
tbr,
but
I
think
some
of
that
will
go
into
because
the
open
roads
build
does
expand
for
us
to
be
able
to
work
more
with
the
tcats
and
tbr
to
get
more
testing
done
through
their
programs,
their
apprenticeships
that
they
have,
and
so
I
think,
they're
looking
to
expand
all
of
their
campuses
to
open
it
up
for
more
cdl
testing
as
well.
They
could
answer
the
specifics
and
I'm
happy
to
get
them
to
provide
that
information.
But
yes,.
L
Thank
you.
I
think
the
the
concern
was
is
were
we
were
we
taking
the
testing
component,
that's
in
safety
and
using
new
dollars
for
in
higher
education
to
do
that,
or
were
we
creating
new
cdl
programs
in
higher
education?
I
guess
that's
the
confusion
that
I
had.
M
Yes,
so
we're
not
creating
a
new
program
per
se,
but
we're
wanting
to
expand
the
current
program
that
we
have.
So
our
tbrs
are
currently
a
great
partner,
doing
testing
with
us.
But
we
want
them
to
be
able
to
do
more
and
so
us
being
able
to
expand
our
resources
and
our
employee
staffing
and
all
of
our
kind
of
what
we
need
to
oversee
audit
and
regulate
it.
M
Then
they
can
expand
and
do
much
more
testing
on
their
level
as
well
as
well
as
opening
up
the
there's
going
to
be
new
apprenticeships
for
18
to
20
year
olds,
allowing
them
to
get
more
into
that
as
well.
L
Yeah
I'll
follow
up
with
that
statement
first,
so
we
did
notice
that
there
was
the
administration
had
a
bill
which
lowered
the
age
from
21
to
18
under
certain
circumstances
there.
Obviously,
in
my
community
I
know
some
of
my
colleagues
are
in
the
trucking
business,
it's
very
difficult
to
find
cdl
drivers.
I
noticed
in
testimony,
though
there
were
some
concerns
about
traffic
accidents
and
those
kinds
of
things
that
we
were
only
limiting
those
students
for
a
distance
or
where
they
could
drive.
M
Yes,
sir,
and
so
currently
the
code
only
allows
for
an
18
to
20
year
old.
Actually,
it's
19
right
now,
it's
19
or
20
year
old
can
only
operate.
I
believe
it's
a
class
c
or
b.
They
can't
do
an
a.
I
don't
have
a
code
right
in
front
of
me
and
they
can
only
go.
I
think
it's
150
miles
total,
so
we're
removing
all
of
those
restrictions.
M
If
we're
talking
interest
state
only
it
can
be
18
to
20
year
olds,
any
of
your
classes
without
any
mileage
restrictions,
and
then
also
there's
going
to
be
a
new
federal
program
that
will
allow
for
interstate
for
that
age
range
as
well
through
an
apprenticeship.
So
we've
adopted
those
regulations
as
well.
L
Finally,
there
are,
I
noticed
that
there
are
eight
new
positions
as
it
relates
that
they're
finding
out
kind
of
difficult
to
find
in
the
budget
document.
But
the
question
also
begs
in
my
district,
my
community
in
the
last
several
weeks,
I've
gotten
contacts
as
it
relates
to
testing
cdl.
I
know
this
is
constantly
an
issue
with
turnover
and
those
kinds
of
things.
How
many
positions
do
you
currently
have
across
the
state
that
for
testing
cdl
that
are
unfilled
and
then
why
the
need
for
the
new
eight.
M
And
all
the
your
first
question
of
finding
it
in
the
budget
document,
that's
gonna
have
to
be
fixed
because
those
positions
weren't
specifically
listed
so
that
will
be
fixed
as
far
as
your
second
one
we
have
16
cdl
testers
throughout
the
state.
Is
that
accurate.
M
And
so
that's
what
we
currently
have
throughout
the
state.
That's
two
at
every
testing
center
that
we
have
and
and
we've
had,
the
request.
Can,
you
all
add,
on
more
testers
to
the
state?
And
while
we
would
love
to
do
that,
our
problem
is,
we
only
have
seven
pads
across
the
state
and
you
can
only
do
one
test
at
a
time.
So
if
we
add
more
examiners,
there's
not
really
anywhere
else
that
they
could
go
to
do
the
test
on
state
property.
M
So
instead
we
want
to
expand
our
third
party
partners
like
our
tcats
and
our
private
companies,
because
they
have
much,
they
have
much
more
property,
they
have
much
greater
resources,
and
so
these
positions
specifically
are
going
into
our
cdl
division
so
that
they
can
do
auditing
regulation.
They
can
do
scheduling
they're
going
to
be
too
dedicated
just
to
training
third
parties,
so
they
can
get
more
of
those
third
party
testers
out.
So
these
positions
won't
be
going
to
state
examiners
because
we
have
those
for
the
centers.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
commissioner,
your
team,
thank
you
for
everything
that
you
do.
Thank
you.
I
want
to
ask
you
a
little
bit
about
the
the
reversions
prior
fiscal
year.
There
was
a
reversion
target
of
3.2
million
dollars,
yet
the
reversion
was
substantial.
It
was
almost
90
million
dollars,
so
in
the
financial
realm.
Can
you
give
us
a
reason
why
the
ask
was
what
it
was
and
then
how
the
reversions
came
to
be
90
million
dollars
and
and
just
talk
about
future
potential
reversions
as
well?
If
you
could.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
Sonya
hadley
budget
director,
so
in
the
previous
fiscal
year
there
was
funding
related
to
covet
as
it
relates
to
law
enforcement
officials.
So
any
funding
for
law
enforcement
officials
related
to
covet
those
salaries
were
diverted
to
that
federal
funding.
So
what
happened?
Is
that
opened
up
state
appropriations
of
that
large
dollar
amount
that
you
saw
that
reverted,
and
so
that
was
just
a
one-time
thing
and
wouldn't
happen
again,
but
we
are
on
the
path
to
meeting
3.25
reversion.
I
Thank
you
very
much.
I
had
a
feeling,
that's
where
we
were
going
down.
You've
piqued
my
interest
as
the
chair
lady's
talking
about
the
the
virtual
testing
as
well.
If
we
could
go
back
to
the
virtual
testing
and
I've
got
a
preteen
right
now
and
I'm
thinking
about
this
virtual
testing,
whether
it's
for
a
first
time,
driver
or
or
other
types
of
licenses,
help
walk
me
through
that,
because
I'm
thinking
I'm
thinking
drivers
only
on
a
permit
has
to
have
to
have
a
licensed
driver
in
the
vehicle
with
them.
Is
this
virtual
testing?
K
If
I
may,
the
there
are
actually
two
cameras
inside
the
vehicle
and
there
is
a
gps
that
it
is
it
verbalizes
the
instructions
to
the
individual
as
they're
driving.
We
monitor
the
guardian,
that's
with
the
individual
and
the
driver
themselves.
There's
information,
that's
fed
into
the
gps.
It
will
tell
you
it
auto
records
if
they
run
a
stop
sign
if
they're
driving
too
fast.
That
information
is
automatically
fed
back
to
us.
There's
release
forms
that
are
prepared
and
guidance
is
given
to
each
guardian
or
parent.
K
That's
with
the
individual
instructions
that
are
provided,
and
they
acknowledge
the
responsibilities
and
liabilities
associated
with
that.
If
they
elect
that
they
do
not
want
to
participate
in
the
virtual
skills
test.
We
all
we
do
have
the
option
of
one
of
our
examiners
going
in
the
vehicle
with
them
chairman.
N
Leader,
colonel
matt
perry
committee.
Thank
you
for
the
time
to
be
here.
That's
a
difficult
question.
It
changes
by
the
hour.
It
seems
like
right
now.
We've
got
three
different
cadet
schools
going,
but
we
we
have
right
around
100
vacancies.
I
don't
want
to
tell
you
an
exact
number
because
it
literally
changes
every
day,
but
right
around
100.
G
Thank
you
chairman.
What
is
the
current
turnover
rate
with
our
troopers
right
now.
N
It's
the
current
turnover
rate
with
with
active
troopers
is
I
I
can't
tell
you
the
number.
I
know
that
that
number
has
has
been
pretty
consistent.
I
think
probably
our
hr
director
can
can
give
you
that
the
turnover
rate
for
new
hires
going
to
cadet
school
is
very
high.
We
are
losing
them
at
an
alarming
rate.
We
sort
of
chalk
it
up
to
a
generational
thing.
We
know
talita
is
seeing
the
same
thing.
N
Yes,
sir,
we
are
doing,
there
is
no
suggestion,
no
idea
off
the
table.
We
have
a
very
open
mind.
We
know
we
have
to
do
things
differently,
certainly
as
the
state
I
know,
hr
is
looking
at
themselves
and
we
we
are
trying
to
hire
differently.
N
Some
of
our
issue
is
well
a
lot
of
different
things,
but
we
we
hire
once
a
year
to
fill
vacancies.
There's
salary
issues
that
come
into
it
benefits
a
lot
of
different
things,
but
we're
looking
at
everything
we've
we've
altered.
It
may
not
mean
a
lot
to
to
the
committee,
but
our
residency
policy.
There
was
a
time
you
had
to
live
in
the
county.
You
you
were
assigned,
we
we
changed
that
to
bordering
counties.
Well,
that's
still
doesn't
help.
You
know
we
found.
N
There
was
people
that
lived
40,
miles
away,
two
counties
over
and
people
that
lived
100
miles
away
one
county
over,
so
we've
tried
to
do
everything
we
can
to
sort
of
work
with
the
lifestyle.
Now
certain
things
being
short-handed.
My
commissioner
said
more
calls
for
service
more
events.
You
all
well
know
we
lived
up
here
a
couple
summers
ago.
G
N
Yes,
sir
they're
they're,
depending
on
what's
going
on,
what's
happened
or
who's
retired.
We
have
there's
always
a
larger
need
in
the
metropolitan
areas.
I
can
tell
you
memphis
nashville
chattanooga
knoxville,
it's
just
they're
the
hardest
places
to
to
hire
and
retain
how
we
place
people.
We
look
at
a
lot
of
different
things,
calls
for
service
to
which
primarily
includes
crashes
and
things
like
that
motors
assist.
We
do
a
lot
of
that,
but
we're
also
taking
into
account
for
a
long
time.
My
dad
was
a
trooper
before
me.
N
When
you
got
hired,
you
were
sent
to
where
you
were
sent.
If
you
were
from
memphis,
you
got
sent
to
fall
branch
of
your
fall
branch.
You
went
to
memphis
that
has
changed,
but
we
we've
tried
to
take
it
one
step
further.
There's
always
like
it's
harder
to
hire
from
nashville
west,
it's
easier
to
hire
from
smith,
county
east,
so
we've
always
had
people.
A
lot
of
people
want
to
hire
out
east
tennessee
and
we've
they've
been
willing.
N
I'm
using
quotes
willing
to
work
anywhere
in
the
states,
so
we've
assigned
them
to
nashville
or
west,
and
they
end
up
leaving.
They
say
they're
willing
to
work
anywhere.
They're,
not
we've
learned
that
lesson.
So
at
this
point,
we're
gonna
place
people
we're
gonna,
try
to
put
them
close
to
home.
We've
done
an
experiment.
I
don't
know
if
you
are
aware,
we've
hired,
we
started
sunday
really,
but
yesterday,
five
out
of
state
troopers,
we
just
wanted
to
try
something
different.
N
Instead
of
having
a
16
or
20
week,
cadet
school,
we
wanted
to
hire
people
that
we
thought
had
been
through
similar
training
and
bypassed
that
we
know
there
are
states
and
people
that
want
to
leave
the
areas
they're
in
and
come
to
places
like
tennessee
and
texas
and
florida.
So
we
thought
we'd
try
to
see
how
that
would
work
for
us
we're
going
to
have
a
minimalized
training.
We
let
them
pick
where
they
wanted
to
work.
N
What
county
do
you
want
to
move
to
and
what
count
you
know?
Where
do
you
want
to
be
assigned
that
gives
us
some
flexibility?
If
you're
going
to
live
in,
you
know
nashville
or
davidson
county,
then
you
can
be
assigned
to.
You
know
one
of
probably
six
or
seven
counties
that
touch
it
same
thing
with
with
memphis
and
so
we've
got.
We
hired
five
two
were
coming
to
the
middle
tennessee
area
and
three
wanted
to
go
to
east
tennessee,
but
that
that's
our
plan
going
forward.
We
want
to
keep
people
close
to
home.
N
We
want
to
give
people
access
to
their
families,
we're
looking
a
lot
of
different
things.
You
know
our
cadet
school
is
you
live
at
our
cadet
school?
You
go
home
on
the
weekends.
We
want
to
look
at
something
where,
over
after
a
few
weeks,
let
people
go
home
on
the
weekend
or
at
night
if
they
want
now,
that's
not
conducive
to
everybody,
but
we're
willing
to
look
at
anything
to
to
increase
our
retention.
D
Thank
you,
chair,
lady
and
commissioner
long.
It's
good
to
see
you
and
colonel
perry
you
as
well
as
well
as
your
staff,
and
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
issue,
but
since
leader
gant
brought
it
up.
I
do
want
to
talk
about
that
just
for
a
second
about
what
can
we
do
to
try
to
help
you
all
so
this
year
I
saw
in
the
governor's
proposed
budget
would
be
a
hundred
new
troopers,
which
sounds
great
until
we
start
hearing
what
colonel
perry
is
saying:
hey.
D
We
can't
feel
the
needs
that
we
have
now
as
a
recovering
county.
Commissioner.
It
used
to
be
back
in
the
day
the
you
know.
We
would
train
the
officers
at
the
county
level
for
the
cities
to
grab
them,
and
then
the
cities
would
get
them
all
trained
up
for
thp
to
come
in
and
swap
them
up,
but
now
we're
seeing
where
thps
are
actually
losing
some
officers
going
back
to
the
cities
and
counties,
and
so
I
don't
think
it's
a
salary
issue.
D
But
then
what
do
you
do
about
your
insurance
citizen
counties
quite
frankly,
are
bridging
the
gap
and
helping
these
back
in
you
know
when
I
like
to
think
I'm
a
young
man,
but
back
when
I
was
a
lot
younger.
When
I
come
out
of
college,
it
was
all
about
salary.
We
didn't
really.
My
generation
really
didn't
focus
a
lot
on
benefits,
but
I've
been
amazed
at
how
much
this
younger
generation
they
want
to
know
how
much
am
I
making
and
then
they
turn
right
around
and
say
well
what
about
benefits?
D
What
about
retirement-
and
I
say
kudos
for
doing
that
if
our
treasurer
was
in
here,
he
would
be
smiling,
but
how
big
of
a
deal
would
that
be,
and
it
just
so
happens
that
I
know
someone
who
has
some
legislation?
That's
going
to
be
bringing
a
bill
toward
this
committee.
Probably
next
week
that's
going
to
be
asking
about
getting
those
troopers
on
that
hybrid
plan
that
would
actually
allow
them
to
once
they
retire.
It
would
cover
them.
80
percent
of
that
health
benefit,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
bringing
that.
N
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
It
would
be
a
huge
benefit
that
we
we
know.
That
is
a
a
reason
why
we
are
not
getting
some
officers
and
and
and
sheriff's
deputies
from
from
around
the
state.
I
came
from
a
sheriff's
department
myself
when
I
came
here
and-
and
I
didn't
think
a
whole
like
to
your
point-
I
didn't
think
a
whole
lot
about
salary
and
benefits,
but
that
that
probably
would
have
been
something
that
caused
me
to
pause
before
if
it
weren't
for
my
dad.
N
You
know
I
might
not
have
come
over,
but
it
will
help
us
definitely
to
that.
There
are
people.
I've
learned
this
didn't
know
of
myself.
There
are
troopers
that
you
know
are
kind
of
on
the
fence
about
staying
being
a
trooper,
because
they've
got
maybe
a
pre-existing
condition
or
something
that
could
be
an
issue
that
the
day
they
retire.
So
I
think
it's
very
important.
D
D
We
need
them,
it's
just
a
matter
of
how
do
we
fill
them,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
this
committee
understands
that
the
fact
that
we
have
a
hundred
troopers
short
it's
because,
quite
frankly,
it's
you're
having
a
hard
time
finding
those
troopers,
and
so
we're
going
to
add
to
that
which
is
going
to
make
this
problem
a
little
bit
worse,
but
hopefully,
hopefully,
there's
some
folks
ready
to
to
get
to
work
and
get
started.
Thank
you
all
for
what
you
do.
I
really
appreciate
it.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
long
as
well.
H
If
you
allow
me
real,
quick
we're
trying
to
remedy
this,
as
colonel
said,
when
I
started
they
were
doing
one
class
a
year,
we
will
never
catch
up
if
we
do
one
class
a
year,
so
we're
doing
at
least
three
now
and
may
look
at
doing
more.
We
have
three
two
or
three
they're
going
on
right.
Now
we
have
another
one
that
will
start
in
june
or
july
april
april,
so
so
we're
trying
to
do
it
and
a
lot
of
the
the
vacancies
are
retirements.
H
We're
at
that
age
of
generation,
where
a
lot
of
the
troopers
came
on
together
are
all
suddenly
retiring
together.
So
we
we
understand
the
shortage
and
we're
trying
to
fill
those
the
best
we
can.
The
hundred
troopers
were
asking
for.
We
did
a
survey
of
the
surrounding
states
to
see
at
what
levels
they're
all
we're
way
short
compared
to
the
other
states
on
the
number
of
troopers
assigned
out
across
their
states
with
the
same
population.
A
And
leader
gant,
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
realize
you
weren't,
you
had
additional
questions.
So
please
forgive
me
and
go
forth.
G
Thank
you
chairman.
I
I
was
actually
just
going
to
thank
you
for
the
work
you
did
in
fayette
county
with
the
wilder
youth
development
center,
because
that
has
been
a
huge
contentious
issue
in
my
district
and
you
guys
have
gone
way
over
and
above
to
help
address
that
situation.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
N
You
thanks
there
again
and
I
would
say
that
that's
part
of
our
our
doing
more,
I
mean
you
you'll.
I
think
you
know
this,
but
you'll
see
we
feel
like
our
job
is
to
to
support
everyone.
Other
state
agencies,
certainly
local
law
enforcement.
We
all
know
it.
We
all
have
to
work
together
to
accomplish
our
mission.
There's
just
not
enough
of
us
to
go
around
in
any
one
department
or
agency.
A
Related
question
on
the
capacity
issue-
and
you
alluded
to
a
commissioner
with
the
additional
training
classes,
but
I
heard
you
mention
something
about
what's
the
best
work.
Perhaps
poaching
is
a
kind
word
from
troopers
from
other
states
who
would
have
already
had
training,
but
just
maybe
need
some
kind
of
brush
up
or
things
specific
to
tennessee
law
and
what
was
the
period
of
time
on
that
training.
N
Yes,
ma'am
sorry,
I
should
have
gotten
further
into
it.
So
post
requires
three
weeks
to
transition,
so
any
police
officer
coming
from
out
of
state
has
to
have
three
weeks
mandatory,
but
we
can
do
the
training
ourselves.
They
don't
have
to
go
to
toledo,
we're
going
to
do
an
additional
two
weeks.
N
These
are
not
just
not
that
a
lot
of
police
officers
don't
but
they've
got
great
resumes
of
things
that
are
very
important
to
us:
commercial
vehicle
backgrounds,
crash
reconstruction,
investigation
backgrounds.
These
are
you
know,
five,
really
good
employees.
We
think
we've
we've
brought
on
and
it's
a
it's
a
test
case.
A
And
those
employees
or
those
persons
who
have
previous
experience
in
other
states,
you
can
train
them
outside
of
the
the
training
centers.
So
you
don't
have
to
interrupt
other
classes.
Is
that
correct.
N
A
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
commissioner
long
great
to
see
you
and
your
team.
Definitely
my
favorite
former
sheriff
and
now,
commissioner.
Thank.
H
G
N
Representative,
we
have
approximately
700
cameras.
We
were
trying
to
get
all
road
working
troopers
inside
the
the
request
for
the
100
new
troopers
is
the
but
all
their
equipment
to
include
body
cameras.
So
there
won't
be
it's
inside
the
100
100
trooper,
the
15
million
request,
just
as
an
fy.
Those
cameras
finally
have
hit
the
ground
we
we
did.
N
L
You,
madam
chair,
thank
you
for
that
information,
and,
and
so
with
with
that
funding,
is
there
any
more
associated
expenses
to
maintaining
that
system
or
upgrading
that
system
that
you
see
that
you'll
need.
A
And
just
to
follow
up
on
that,
you
have
all
of
this
footage.
A
N
Yes,
ma'am,
it
is
the
beginning.
We
we've
got
a
small
unit.
We
call
it
technical
services
that
that
does
there's
a
lot
that
has
to
be
done
with
a
video.
They
have
to
be
redacted
for
certain
things
before
they're
released
to
media,
and
you
know,
obviously,
if
there's
juvenile
and
there's
a
lot
to
a
video
there's
a
there's
microphones,
that's
a
different
layer,
the
video's,
a
layer,
the
internal
inside
the
car
video
is
a
layer,
the
there's
a
lot
to
it
and
and
that
unit
unfortunately,
will
probably
have
to
grow.
N
A
Representative.
Gillespie.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I've
got
a
statement
on
two
questions,
but
that's
okay.
Thank
you.
All.
First
of
all,
I
just
want
to
we're
having
we're
struggling
in
shelby
county
and
recently
or
you're
you're
helping
us
significantly.
So
I
just
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
thank
you
for
that.
We
do
need
more
help,
though
so,
and
I
know
there's
the
hiring
that
we've
already
talked
about,
but
I
do
any
chance
I
will.
J
I
will
say
that
to
you
also,
thank
you
first
thing,
and
I
don't
know
who
this
goes
to
in
my
district.
We
have
a
the
ul's
headquarters
on
summer
avenue,
as
well
as
the
driver's
license,
training
or
the
place.
Where
you
take
the
test
you
get
license
whatever
it's
for
decades
had
just
a
notorious
reputation
of
just
taking
forever
or
whatever,
and
I
know
that
in
the
budget
you'll
have
a
new
trooper
headquarters
there
that's
going
to
replace
that.
Does
that
also
include
the
drivers,
the
the
driver's
license
section
of
that.
J
Okay
and
secondly,
there's
about
4.3
million
dollars
for
the
driver's
license
systems,
annual
support
and
maintenance
is
included
in
this
budget.
Was
this
annual
support
maintenance
cost,
including
the
department's
base
budget
last
year
or
in
previous
years,.
B
M
And
and
for
your
question
on
shelby
county,
I
wanted
to
add
that
we
know
that
we
don't
have
a
skills
pad
there
in
shelby
county
right
now
and
we're
working
with
stream
and
we're
hoping
to
have
it
within
the
next
12
to
20
months.
It's
going
to
have
to
be
built
and
that
will
include
a
new
place
for
dl
services
as
well,
and
that
should
expand
all
of
that
and
make
it
a
much
a
much
better
visit,
as
well
as
having
an
actual
pad
there
in
memphis.
J
To
follow
up
with
what
you
just
said
there,
what
so
you,
the
driver
services
that
will
once
that
pad
for
the
commercial
cdl
that
will
also
transition
or
speed
up
the
process
for
everyday
drivers.
K
Yes,
there
will
be
a
driver
services
location
at
that
facility
that
the
pad
in
the
west
tennessee
memphis
area
has
been
needed
for
many
years,
as
we
all
know
something
that
we
have
added
in
shelby
county
that
you
may
not
be
aware
of,
as
we
reopen
the
bartlett
location
also
on
summer
avenue
to
serve
as
an
express
location.
So
we
are
adding
capacity
as
quickly
as
we
can,
but
we
do
hope
and
and
believe
that
the
the
location
with
the
cdl
pad
will
be
a
great
benefit
to
that
area.
A
B
B
G
Team
here
you
know,
I
just
want
to
tell
you.
I
appreciate
everything
you
do
your
team
and
your
troopers
on
the
ground,
but
also
your
liaisons
in
our
transportation
committee
and
transportation
subcommittee,
really
add
value
and
inform
factual
information
to
help
us
navigate
through
the
as
we
make
laws,
and
I
really
appreciate
that.
Okay,
thank.
H
G
G
Sir,
my
question
has
to
do
with
the
2005
real,
a
real
id
act.
The
deadline
I
understand
has
been
extended
to
may
and
next
year
and
are
we
tracking
the
numbers
y'all
expect
and
do
you?
How
do
you
see
the
surge
coming
as
we
get
closer
to
may
of
next
year
to
handle
all
the
people
trying
to
get
into
the
centers
to
complete
their
process?.
H
K
At
this
time
we
currently
have
1.7
million
and
we're
tracking
on
all
of
the
renewals
each
month,
we're
tracking
about
43
percent
or
applying
for
real
ids
tennessee
is
an
elective
state
you're
not
required
to
get
a
real
id
unless
you
believe
that
you
need
it,
so
we
feel
like
we
will
be
in
a
good
position
at
now,
since
the
deadline
has
been
extended
to
meet
the
needs
and
demands
of
the
customers
based
on
the
trends
that
we
have
seen
so
far,
we
will
I'm
sure
I
always
have
those
people
at
the
last
minute
when
the
deadline
gets
here.
N
A
And
just
a
question
before
we
excuse
you
on
just
the
safety
numbers
highway
deaths
and
you
know
what
you're
seeing
trends
in
that
direction.
We
passed
some
legislation
in
this
body
a
couple
of
years
ago
for
distracted
driving.
If
that's
made
any
impact.
If
you
have
anything
you
can
share
with
us
on
that.
N
Yes,
ma'am,
it
is
absolutely
made
an
impact
we
saw
during
covid.
N
Well,
everybody
saw
it
if
you
drive
on
the
interstate
traffic
speeds
are
up,
people
are
flying
around,
there's
a
level
of
sort
of
anger,
and
just
I
guess,
traffic
got
light
and
people
got
comfortable
and
used
to
to
not
having
to
leave
as
early.
N
So
we've
seen
that,
but
but
since
the
legislation,
the
hands-free
during
kobud,
we
we
in
an
effort
to
keep
our
troopers
members
safe.
We
reduced
our
contact,
so
we
tried
to
have
them
visible,
make
stops
where
necessary,
but
but
you
know
when
we
were
trying
to
get
our
arms
around
it.
So
at
this
point
we're
back
out.
We
issued
in
2020
10
000
hands-free
citations.
We
issued
almost
20
000
last
year.
N
It's
the
only
fatality
number
that
went
down
in
2021
from
the
previous
year
was
distracted,
driving
fatal
crashes
now
so
we'll
take
that
it
was
a
win,
so
I'd
say
the
law
has
definitely
helped
and-
and
you
should
see
more
and
more
troopers
out
there
stopping
cars.
Lord
knows
everybody's
running
them
down
the
interstate
on
their
phones
and
ipads
and
everything
else.
If
you
look
over
next
to
you
somebody's,
I
feel
like
doing
something
but
paying
attention
to
the
road.
So
it's
it's
made
a
huge
impact.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
being
here,
commissioner,
you
and
your
staff
and
let
me
just
take
personal
privileges.
Thank
you
for
coming
down
to
our
district
and
spending
a
little
time
with
me.
I
appreciate
it
very
much
enjoyed
your
company.
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
ask
a
couple
of
quick
questions
and
I'll
ask
both
of
you
either.
E
Whoever
want
to
answer
them
question
number
one:
are
you
getting
more
applications
from
females
now
and
question
number
two:
are
you
all
given
any
consideration
to
hybrid
or
battery
operated
vehicles,
knowing
that
that's
probably
coming
down
the
road
have
y'all
considered
looking
at
some
of
those
issues
and
I'll
just
leave
it
to
everyone
else
of
those
things.
N
I
can
answer
the
the
hybrid
vehicle
question.
I
don't
know
the
numbers
on
on
females
for
for
troopers,
just
not
having
any
knowledge.
It
looks
like
there
are
more,
but
I
know
hr
can
we
can
get
that
answer
for
you
quickly,
vehicles
we
tested
actually
general
services,
vehicle
and
asset
management
asked
us
to
test
about.
36
hybrid
marked
explorers,
troopers
loved
them
gas
ma.
N
If
you
know
anything
about
explorer
you,
a
trooper
cannot
get
a
full
day's
work
in
on
one
one
tank
of
gas
with
the
hybrid
vehicle
they
can
so
that
that's
all
we
ordered
the
this
this
past
year
and
that's
all
that's
coming
in
so
we're.
We
actually
love
the
hybrid
vehicles.
We
have
not
tried,
tested
or
or
looked
at
electric
vehicles.
Yet
I'm
sure
that
day
is
coming.
A
I
don't
so
saying
no
further
questions,
commissioner,
thank
you
and
your
team
again
for
joining
us
today
and
once
again
on
behalf
of
all
the
people
in
tennessee
that
you
keep
safe.
A
We
we
are
appreciative
and,
as
I
said
initially
we're
particularly
appreciative
of
the
long
hot
summer
that
you
guys
spent
with
us
and
and
the
work
that
you
do
on
a
daily
basis
here
to
just
make
sure
that
that
we're
safe
as
we
conduct
our
business
in
this
building
and
in
the
capitol.
So
thank
you
so
much.
A
A
P
I
appreciate
you,
members
of
the
members
here
of
the
committee,
to
listen
to
our
budget
presentation
today.
I'll
get
right
into
it.
We
were
requesting
a
budget
of
133.6
million
dollars
and
of
that
amount
that.
P
There
you
go
in
a
wildlife
program.
A
lot
of
those
improvements
are
staff
members,
because
we
requested
10
new
positions
in
the
wildlife
management
program.
We
also
have
a
chronic
wasting
disease
work
base
that
we're
going
to
be
building
here
next
year,
as
well
as
research,
that's
going
to
take
place
and
has
been
taking
place
on
ducks
on
elk,
turkey
quail
and
deer
and
fisheries
management
side.
P
The
increase
represents
four
positions
and
as
well
as
other
work
going
on
in
the
fisheries
world,
with
some
improvements
to
our
hatcheries
also
improvements,
some
of
our
agency-owned
fishing
lakes
and
a
program
that
we
call
the
a-chip
or
the
asian
carp
harvest
incentive
program
that
I
will
talk
about
here
in
just
a
little
bit
and
the
boating
program.
The
increases
represent
three
new
positions,
as
well
as
five
patrol
boats.
P
So
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
some
of
the
things
that
we're
having
to
work
on.
It
takes
a
lot
of
our
time.
A
lot
of
our
funding.
A
lot
of
our
money
is
invasive
and
disease
and
invasive
carp.
The
commercial
fishing
program
I
just
mentioned
a
minute
ago
has
resulted
in
about
13
and
a
half
million
pounds
of
asian
carp
removed
from
mostly
lake
barkley
kentucky
lake
and
in
some
in
pickwick,
since
2018
and
7.5
million
have
been
removed
this
last
year.
P
The
the
asian
carp
incentive
program
is
basically
it's
a
it's
a
it's
incentive
to
on
top
of
what
the
commercial
fishermen
already
receive
when
they
harvest
the
asian
carp.
They
get
some
money
from
selling
the
fish,
because
they're
a
mild
tasting
fish,
they're
bony,
but
they're
they're,
they're,
really
tasty,
and
they
have
a
market
form
as
well
as
in
the
northeast
when
the
bait
industry
for
lobster
traps,
as
well
as
down
in
the
coast
of
florida
and
louisiana
for
for
crab
traps,
so
they're
by
us
providing
some
incentive.
P
It's
a
it's
a
it's,
not
a
concrete
barrier,
but
it
is
a
made
up
of
lights,
bubbles
and
sound,
and
asian
carp
are
very
sensitive
to
certain
kinds
of
sound
and
they're.
In
the
testing
phase
of
this
now
to
see
if
they
can
repel
these
asian
carp
from
coming
through
the
locks
when
they
open
them
up
to
to
allow
barges
to
go
in
and
that's
how
asian
carpet
burn
have
been
moving
up
into
our
waterways,
that's
through
the
locks
that
the
dams
that
have
logs
we're
also
monitoring
to
measure
the
effect.
P
As
a
result
of
that,
we've
improved
the
testing
times
greatly,
we've
had,
unfortunately,
we've
had
to
expand
the
counties
we
have
nine
counties
very
elevated
or
added
is
high
risk
or
cwd
positive,
and
also
we
will
soon
have
we've
got
the
purchase
order
out
for
a
crematory
or
incinerator
to
to
burn
the
the
deer,
heads
and
deer
carcasses
that
the
landfills
won't
take
unless
they
know
that
they're,
positive
or
negative,
and
we're
continuing
to
monitor
statewide.
P
P
Before
I
go
any
further,
I
fail
to
recognize
myself
and
others.
If
it's
okay,
I
would
like
to
introduce
everybody.
I'm
bobby
wilson,
the
executive
director
for
tennessee
wildlife
resources
agency
to
my
right
is
ken
tarkin
and
he's
the
chief
of
budget
and
to
my
left
is
chris
richardson.
He
is
our
deputy
director
over
the
business
operations
of
our
agency
to
his
left
is
jason.
Maxodon
and
jason
is
over
the
wildlife
fisheries
law
enforcement
side
of
the
field
side
of
the
agency.
P
As
deputy
director,
we
also
have
four
commissioners
from
the
tennessee
fish
and
wildlife
commission
that
have
joined
us
today,
bill
cox
from
collierville
stan,
but
from
columbia,
angie
box,
a
chairman,
is
from
jackson,
tennessee
and
steve
jones
is
from
clinton
tennessee.
So
thank
you,
madam
chairman.
Sorry,
I
failed
to
do
that
a
little
bit
about
what
we
do.
We
we
have
127
wildlife
management
areas
that
vary
from
53
to
625
000
acres
in
size.
P
We
support
21
firing
ranges
over
8,
500,
100
education
students
a
year
go
through
our
program.
We
have
11
fish
hatcheries
and
we
stock
about
8
million
fish.
Some
of
those
hatcheries
are
trout.
Hatcheries
and
some
are
regular
warm
water
hatcheries,
where
we
stock
crappie,
walleye,
striped
bass
and
and
the
smallmouth
bass
other
fish
that
we
stock
as
well.
P
We
have
constructed,
we
have
about
300
boat
ramps
that
we've
constructed
over
time
and
we
have
252
000
registered
boats
in
tennessee
and
10
000
boater
education,
students
mandatory
have
taken
that
class
a
year
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
economic
side,
505
million
dollars
spent
on
hunting
800
million
impact
with
8
807
jobs.
P
Fishing
is
742
million
spent
1.2
billion
dollar
impact
and
76
69
jobs,
and
the
voting
is
a
six
billion
dollar
impact,
20
000
jobs
and
there
are
growing
number
of
hunters
and
angers,
which
is
good
news
for
us
in
2020.
During
the
pandemic,
tennessee
had
the
largest
percentage
of
increase
in
hunting
license
sales
in
the
country.
P
That
was
a
that
was
a
huge
deal
for
us.
Of
course,
there
were
a
lot
of
people
out,
as
you
know,
during
the
pandemic
wanting
to
get
outside
and
enjoy
the
outdoors
say,
either
hunting
and
fishing
or
or
wildlife
watching
or
boating,
and
we
they
did
the
same
thing
in
tennessee
in
big
numbers.
We
continue
to
be
a
destination
for
non-residents,
to
hunt
fish
and
boat,
with
growing
numbers
up
15
in
2021
from
2020
over
a
million
transactions
processed
a
year.
P
We
work
to
retain
hunters
and
angers
through
proactive
community
engagement,
communications
and
marketing,
and
we
lead
the
country
innovative
strategies
to
help
people
get
in
the
outdoors.
We
have
a
fantastic
marketing
program
and
it's
helped.
We've
also
retained
it.
I
don't
have
it
on
the
slide,
but
we've
also
retained
about.
I
believe
it
was
80
of
the
new
license
holders
that
we
had
from
last
from
2020,
so
we're
we're
doing
a
great
job
there,
and
I
one
other
program
that
I
it's
not
on.
P
The
slide
I'd
like
to
mention
is
the
the
governor
made
this
announcement
back
in
december.
The
bill,
dance,
signature,
fishing
lakes
program.
It's
it's
going
to
be
an
exciting
new
program
that
we're
working
in
conjunction
with
other
departments,
department
of
environment
and
conservation,
their
state
parks
also
the
department
of
agriculture,
division
of
forestry
and
then
the
division
of
tourism,
as
well
as
the
tennessee
valley
authority.
P
I
hope
I
didn't
leave
anybody
out,
but
anyway,
that
you'll
hear
more
about
that
in
the
in
the
coming
months
and
working
hard
to
make
that
program
success
and
we're
fortunate
that
the
bill,
dance,
legendary
bill
dances
allowed
us
to
use
his
name
and
to
endorse
this
program
with
that
and
parent.
That's
my
presentation.
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
little
director
and
the
commissioners
appreciate
y'all
being
here
today.
The
governor's
got
a
in
his
proposed
budget.
7.13
million
dollars
dedicated
to
funding,
support
maintenance
of
wetland
properties.
Can
you
describe
how
this
funding
will
be
used
and
and
how
it'll
be
distributed
and
which
wetland
properties
are
likely
to
be
targeted?.
O
O
This
general
assembly
saw
fit
to
expand
our
authority
with
some
of
those
wetlands
projects
to
where
now
the
statute
allows
us
to
maintain
and
enhance
any
property
owned
by
the
state
that
is
under
the
jurisdiction
of
the
agency
with
those
funds.
So
these
projects,
the
7.1
million
worth
of
projects,
truly,
are
scattered
from
memphis
to
mountain
city,
on
all
of
our
wmas
and
vary
in
in
many
different
shapes
and
forms,
but
they're
all
maintenance
or
enhancement
projects
on
those
management
areas
or
state-owned
lands.
C
O
G
Jason
maxon,
I'm
deputy
director
over
fielder
operations
and
chairman
todd.
It
would
be
things
probably
you're
familiar
with
in
your
area
like
replacing
like
waterfowl
structures,
things
that
are
able
to
hold
water
and
water
fouling
payments
for
ducks.
It
would
include
just
different
operations
such
as
even
going
out
and
maintaining
those
as
far
as
mowing,
our
planting
crops
and
some
of
the
associated
things
that
come
along
with
that.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
I
noticed
that
your
total
reserves
have
just
about
doubled
in
the
three
years
that
that
I've
been
here
from
about
50
million
to
now
write
out
100
million
dollars.
Have
you
dipped
into
those
reserves
any
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
P
No,
we
have
not
chairman,
I'm
representing
todd,
we
have
not
dipped
into
it.
We
we
have
that
reserve
amount
set
aside
as
a
rainy
day
fund
in
case,
and
we
feel
like
if
things
start
getting
bad
or
people
quit
hunting
or
expenses
go
up,
or
some
disaster
happens
with.
C
I
do
remember
about
I
think
about
a
year
ago
and
it
was
about
10
or
15
million
dollars
in
one
of
those
funds
less
than
it
is
now,
and
the
question
was
asked
by
someone
on
the
committee.
C
How
much
is
too
much-
and
I
think
mr
richardson
answered
we're
about
where
we
need
to
be,
and
so
it's
continued
to
go
up,
and
I
know
you
had
a
you
know
the
pandemic
surge
of
licenses
and
also
I
can
imagine
that
goes
into
it
and
and
I
I
would
also
imagine
the
commission
may
look
at
some
point.
It
may
be
cutting
some
license
fees
potentially
so
last
year,
the
agency,
let
bids
for
the
construction
of
duck
blinds
and
for
brushing
those
blinds.
G
We
did
not
spend
anything,
that's
that's
a
new
project.
We
went
in
and
spent
thirty
thousand
dollars
each
for
these
blinds
that
we
constructed,
but
prior
to
that
we
did
not
build
any
blinds
other
than
our
handicap
accessible
blinds
and
those
would
average,
depending
on
the
lumber
cost
somewhere
around
fifteen
thousand
dollars
a
year.
Okay,.
C
The
brushing
I've
seen
a
breakdown
of
the
cost
on
that
and
how
the
bids
went.
It
was
really
confusing
the
way
it
was
lumped
together.
What
was
probably
the
average
cost
of
of
brushing
those
blinds?
It.
C
I
noticed
in
the
the
contract
documents
that
y'all
submitted
to
me
that,
in
the
invitation
to
bid
from
june
of
21,
it
showed
a
maximum
liability
of
1.26
million
dollars
in
the
in
the
bid
documents,
which
I
thought
was
a
little
bit
odd
and
it
was
for
42
blinds
and
it
only
listed
as
far
as
there
was
a
section
1.63
that
showed
contacts
and
it
showed
an
agency
contact
and
it
showed
contractor
contacts.
There
was
only
one
contractor
listed
there.
Am
I
misreading
that?
G
C
C
C
So
it's
was
it
like
2
000
a
day
or
something
like
that.
So
there's
going
to
be
an
awful
lot
of
liquidated
damage,
as
I
assume
yes.
C
And
the
remainder
of
the
blinds,
you
said
how
many
were
there
be
14
left?
Yes,
sir
they're
scheduled
to
be
constructed
this
year.
If
you
had
provided
more
time,
I
know
this
seemed
to
be
a
very
rushed
program.
G
C
Well,
with
a
june
8th
bid
date
and
an
october
1
delivery
date
for
something
that
never
been
done
before,
it
seems
awful
tight
to
me
from
from
the
standpoint
of,
if
you're
looking
out
for
the
taxpayer
dollars
to
get
the
best
bang
for
your
buck.
C
That's
an
awful
tight
time
frame
to
get
and
not
just
make
them,
but
deliver
them,
install
them
construct
them
at
the
sites
which,
as
I
understood
the
contract
to
say,
was
a
requirement,
so
it
just
looked
like
we
could
have
probably
gotten
a
much
better
price
and
and
maybe
even
more
bidders
had
we
not
rushed
this
so
much.
But
I
appreciate
you
being
here.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
chairman,.
L
L
I
guess
the
question
for
me
is
where
I
know
that
there
has
been
some
action
as
it
relates
to
some
citizens
up
there,
and
I
I
don't
know
how
much
you
can
talk
about
it,
but
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
give
me
an
update
on
where
we
are
and
what's
going
on
with
that
and
the
and
the
bob
the
quail
habitat
there.
G
We've
pressed
pause
on
that
for
now,
and
the
plan
is
to
come
back,
meet
with
some
members
here
and
also
meet
with
some
of
the
local
folks
there
in
the
community
and
try
and
see
what
is
going
to
be
best
for
all
the
folks
there
in
the
community
moving
forward.
As
you
know,
it's
been
a
pretty
hot
topic.
There
was
230
acres
that
were
scheduled
there
to
be
harvested.
G
A
lot
of
misinformation
was
put
out
on
that
particular
230
and
we're
just
trying
to
come
back
and
actually
would
love
to
take
anybody
here
that
might
want
to
go
on
a
field
tour
of
that
on
a
filter
to
to
kind
of
show
you.
I
think
there
was
some
information
put
out,
that
it
was
old
growth
forest
and
it's
actually
a
70
year
old
forest.
We
just
want
to
get
some
good
information
out
meet
with
some
partners
and
see,
what's
best
for
everybody
to
move
forward
right.
L
Well,
thank
you
for
that.
I,
I
guess
there
was
a
lot
of
misinformation.
Circling.
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
challenges-
and
I
appreciate
you
guys
taking
a
pause
just
so
we
can
figure
out
what's
going
on
there,
one
of
the
other
things
that
was
a
a
a
miscommunication
area.
I
think
that
I,
that
I
really
think
it's
important
that
we
clarify
here
in
the
committee
is
what
who
who
takes
the
trees
out
and
who
gets
paid
to
do
it.
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
concerns
it
felt
like
that
we
were
trying.
L
The
perception
locally
was
that
we
were
trying
to
generate
revenue
out
of
the
out
of
the
wilderness
in
order
to
do
that,
but
I
think
it
was
more
about
a
habitat
installation
than
it
was
about
actually
taking
the
trees.
Could
you
comment
on
that?
For
me,
yeah
sure.
G
L
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
We
appreciate
it.
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions
regarding
the
wildlife
and
the
boating
programs.
I
don't
know
who
gets
that
one,
but
here
here
is
what
I've
got
this
year
looks
like
the
governor
has
a
proposed
budget
of
eight
million
dollars
for
funding
that
establishes
17
full-time
positions
to
enhance
the
wildlife,
the
fisheries
and
the
boating
programs,
and
of
that
amount,
8
million
of
the
total
8
million
7
million
is
federal
funding
in
almost
2
million
of
that
is
non-recurring.
I
O
Thank
you,
representative,
gary
chris
richardson
deputy
for
business
operations,
I'll
try
to
field
that
one
as
best
I
can
at
the
last
check,
which
has
now
been
a
couple
weeks
ago.
The
agency
was
recorded
as
having
44
vacancies
of
those
44
vacancies
all,
but
six
were
at
some
point
in
the
hiring
process
and
needed
for
those
positions
where
our
actual
request
for
new
positions.
This
year
was
23.,
we're
very
excited
to
have
17
approved
in
the
governor's
document.
O
At
this
point
and
they're
much
needed
positions
for
programs
that
really
have
been
experiencing
a
very
increased
demand,
especially
in
light
of
the
what
I
call
the
re-engagement
in
the
outdoors
that
covet
19
created.
Five
of
those
positions
are
paddle
craft,
specific
officers
to
help
police
some
of
our
smaller
waterways.
O
This
is
the
first
time.
Well
I
shouldn't
say
the
first
time
when
we
had
cwd
and
asian
carp.
We,
we
got
12
12
new
positions
just
a
year
or
two
ago.
Prior
to
that,
the
position
count
for
the
agency
had
stayed
the
same
for
nearly
40
years,
even
though
the
land
that
we
were
responsible
for
managing
and
the
hunters
and
fishermen
and
the
amount
of
work
that
were
needed
to
be
done
was
increasing.
Those
positions
have
remained
fairly
constant.
O
So
if
you
look
at
the
the
overall
increase
in
what
we
are
producing
to
the
position
count
and
and
those
recent
changes
both-
I
believe
it
was
two
years
ago,
and
now
this
year
they
are
much
needed
positions
boots
on
the
ground
to
to
to
complete
the
necessary
work
that
the
the
citizens
of
the
state
demand.
I
Fair
enough,
thank
you
for
that
and
then,
since,
since
we
have
some
federal
dollars
that
are
non-recurring,
is
there
any
situation
where
we
might
be
responsible
or
obligated
to
cover
the
two
million
dollars
in
non-recurring
funds.
O
O
The
re-engagement
of
the
outdoors,
along
with
a
few
other
factors,
certainly
sold
a
lot
of
guns,
a
lot
of
ammunition
and
a
lot
of
sporting
related
equipment
and
tennessee
stands
to
benefit
from
that
now.
These
are
not
federal
dollars.
That
come
to
us
in
a
lump
sum.
These
are
programs
that
we
have
to
have
qualified
projects
and
we
have
to
expend
state
dollars
in
order
to
then
recoup
the
federal
money
on
the
back
end,
most
of
the
time
on
a
75-25
split.
There
are
other
opportunities,
such
as
in
the
shooting
range
construction
realm.
O
That
could
be
a
90-10
split,
but
for
the
most
part
it's
a
75-25
match.
So,
while
this
shows
a
non-recurring
cost,
we
expect
the
federal
money
to
go
up,
and
we
also
are
betting
on
ourselves
a
little
bit
that
we
can
retain
the
205,
000
or
so
new
license
buyers
that
we've
had
since
2020.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
director,
good
to
see
you,
commissioners
welcome
to
the
hill.
Last
year
we
we
passed
legislation
that
kind
of
did
away
with
the
the
license
years
and
we
established
the
annual
license
system
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
clear
from
date
to
date.
I
just
wonder
if
y'all
can
give
us
an
update
on
that
and
madam
speaker
chair,
I
also
have
a
few
more
questions.
That's
right.
O
Certainly
I'll
take
that
one
chairman
faison
and
we
are
in
our
first
year
of
what
we
refer
to
as
the
365-day
license
cycle
licenses
traditionally
have
run
from
february
from
march
1st
to
february
28th,
with
all
licenses
expiring
on
the
28th
of
february,
starting
this
year
and
currently
for
sale,
because
today
is
march
the
first
anyone
that
purchases,
a
hunting
and
fishing
license
for
an
annual
time
in
the
state
of
tennessee.
Now
their
license
will
run
from
365
days
for
the
day
to
purchase.
So
we're
very
excited
about
that.
O
This
one
first
year
could
result
in
somewhat
of
a
dip
as
we
move
from
accounting
those
licenses
from
march
1st
to
february
28th.
We
now
have
to
pick
that
time
period,
which
we
want
to
count
the
licenses
for
annual
certification.
O
But
while
we,
we
think
that
the
majority
of
our
license
are
going
to
continue
to
be
sold
at
the
times
that
they
traditionally
have
been
and
we're
going
to
time
that
appropriately.
So
we
have
launched
that
program
and-
and
we
are
actively
selling
those
365
licenses
now.
F
Thank
you.
Another
question
representative
todd
referenced
that
the
hundred
million
that
y'all
have
in
reserve.
There's
probably
more.
I
hear
frustration
from
some
of
my
hunters
that
contiguous
states
have
cheaper
hunting
fishing
license
than
we
do
so
couple
questions.
First
of
all,
can
you
can
you
kind
of
speak
to
us
why
some
of
our
contiguous
states
are
are
considerably
cheaper
than
us
number
one
number
two
with
the
reserve
fund?
F
Is
there
a
certain
portion
of
that
hundred
million?
That
is
dedicated
like
one
time.
I
asked
you
about
this
years
ago
and
I
want
to
say
you
told
me
that,
like
I
bought
lifetime
license
for
my
children
is
part
of
that
hundred
million.
For
that,
can
you
kind
of
break
down
this
that
and
is
there
a
possibility
because
we're
conservatively
grand
government
we
believe
in
giving
back?
If
we've,
if
we've
overcharged,
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
good
government.
F
Does
this
show
that
you're
over
charging
for
license?
So
it's
kind
of
two
or
three
questions
there.
All
in
one.
O
Thank
you,
chairman
faison,
for
the
question,
and
certainly
each
state
around
us
sells
their
license
packages
a
little
bit
differently,
and
if
you
really
compare
privilege
for
privilege,
I
certainly
could
make
a
different
argument
than
what
some
of
your
constituents
have
and
that
we're
not
priced
more
than
surrounding
states.
There
are
certain
circumstances,
such
as
the
state
of
missouri,
the
state
of
arkansas
that
have
considerable
constitutionally
dedicated
funding
that
goes
to
their
wildlife
agencies
before
they
even
collect
a
license.
O
O
I
attribute
a
lot
of
that
to
the
people
sitting
behind
me
to
the
people
sitting
to
each
side
of
me
and
we're
very
proud
of
the
fiscal
management
that
we
have
done
over
the
last
decade
to
get
these
rainy
day
balances
to
a
healthy
position,
and
I
think
it's
an
exciting
opportunity
for
us
to
see
what
comes
next,
but
certainly
there's.
F
O
O
Those
are
what
we
consider
to
be
the
true
operating
rainy
day,
funds
that
we
have
for
those
two
programs
which
have
to
be
maintained.
Separate
the
wetlands
acquisition
fund,
the
amount
of
property,
that's
changing
hands
in
the
state
of
tennessee
right
now,
the
apportionments
from
the
wetlands
acquisition
have
been
higher
than
they
have
ever
been
by
a
considerable
fashion,
and
that
has
led
to
increased
opportunity
for
us
to
find
more
projects
based
on
the
statutory
construction
of
how
that
is
set
up.
O
But
it
also
has
led
to
a
healthy
balance
that
affords
us
opportunities
like
the
bill.
Dance
fishing
trail
we're
going
to
spend
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
out
of
that
wetlands
fund
in
the
next
year
to
redo
herb
parsons
lake
in
shelby
county
to
bring
that
into
standard
with
what
we
expect
bill.
Dan's
fishing
trail
to
do
so.
O
We're
looking
for
opportunistic
projects
to
to
put
products
on
the
ground
that
the
folks
want,
in
addition
to
the
funds
that
are
here,
I
think
your
question
also
had
to
do
with
our
lifetime
licenses
and
we
do
have
about
70
million
dollars
that
has
been
collected
in
the
last
22
years
for
lifetime
licenses.
Those
funds
are
maintained
in
an
endowment
and
statutorily.
O
We
are
not
allowed
to
expend
any
principle
from
those
funds
and
we
must
live
off
the
interest,
and
I'm
hopeful
that
this
committee
may
in
short
time,
see
some
legislation
this
year
relative
to
those
accounts
that
may
provide
the
treasurer,
with
a
little
more
flexibility
in
how
he
invests
those
dollars
to
maximize
more
even
more
return.
There.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
being
here
and
thanks
for
all,
you
do
not
just
for
the
hook
and
bullet
folks,
but
all
those
that
enjoy
the
outdoors.
E
Like
my
colleague
just
said,
my
children
all
have
their
lifetime
license
and
the
joy
that
they
get
when
they
get
their
their
magazine
is.
I
wish
I
could
bottle
it
up
and
share
it
with
all
the
residents
across
our
state
because
we
live
in
a
beautiful
state
and
it's
it's
a
great
deal
due
to
the
work
that
you
you
do.
So
thank
you.
The
question
I've
got
is
based
on
the
the
questionnaire
that
you
filled
out
and
you
stated
that
there
was
a
pending
complaint
for
declaratory.
Declaratory.
E
O
O
What
that
argument
was
about
this
case
has
been
these
circumstances,
and
facts
have
have
been
previously
tried
in
federal
court
on
at
least
two
occasions,
and
in
both
cases
this
ruling
was
in
favor
of
of
the
state,
and
so
this
is
a
third
bite
at
an
apple
on
an
issue
and
we
are
anxiously
and
hopefully
awaiting
a
positive
outcome
in
that
regard.
E
O
Chairman,
charles
actually,
we
we
funded
through
some
some
federal
money
and
opportunity
opportunities
that
come
to
twa.
We
funded
that
shooting
range,
but
it
is
under
the
control
of
lone
oaks
and
the
university
of
tennessee.
They
they
operate
it
and
own
it.
We
help
them
with
funding
that
range.
E
We
we
we
get
a
lot
of
positive
comments
about
it.
I
just
want
to
tell
you
I,
I
think
the
investment
you
put.
That
was
really
good,
because
we
get
a
whole
lot
of
comments
about
that.
Shooting
range,
and
I
wanted
to
thank
you
personally
for-
and
I
know,
you're
not
as
involved
in
the
white
the
lake
project,
but
thank
you
for
taking
some
time
to
talk
to
us
about
what
we
need
to
do
then,
and
we
appreciate
it
and
anything
you
can
help
us
with.
We
really
appreciate
it.
That's
wiper
lake.
O
Certainly,
representative
shaw:
it's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
you
on
that
project
and
we
look
forward
to
making
some
some
much
needed
improvements
there
as
we
go
forward,
and
I
would
encourage
you
know.
Lone
oaks
is
one
example
of
a
shooting
range
that
we
have
funded.
There
are
other
examples
whether
they're
in
carroll
county
chairman
hawk,
can
talk
about
the
green
county
range.
That's
been
funded,
there's
one
in
crossville
that
has
been
funded
by
us.
O
E
A
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
deputy
commissioner
richardson.
Thank
you
for
the
mention
I
I
do
want
to
give
a
plug
to
to
the
firing
range
in
greene
county.
It
has
been
tremendous
and
many
many
of
your
commissioners
and
many
folks
speaking
at
the
table.
You
all
shot
there
before.
So
it's
done
an
amazing
job
in
terms
of
100
safety
classes
and
and
the
sport
for
young
people
as
well
as
old.
It
has
been
tremendous
to
see
moms
and
dads
and
kids
and
grandmas
and
grandpas
out
there
shooting
it
is.
I
It
is
tremendous
and
as
we
look
at
expansion,
I
would
appreciate
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
Many
of
you
have
heard
from
me
and
look
forward
to
seeing
some
expansions
there
as
well.
Thank
you.
I
want
to
go
back.
We
talked
earlier
about
the
the
potential
tree
harvest
and
the
habitat
that
was
discussed,
and
I've
learned
recently
that
if
you
stay
here
long
enough
issues
come
back
and
recycle
themselves
again.
I
We've
had
some
conversations
about
clear
cuts
and
forest
management
20
years
ago,
when
I
first
got
here
and
to
hear
that
come
up
again
is
very
interesting.
There's
some
best
practices
out
there,
where
this
is
a
way
to
manage
habitat.
This
is
a
way
to
manage
a
forest.
This
is
a
the
best
way
to
do
that
and
I'm
sure
you
all
already
already
have
partnered,
but
as
we're
partnering
with
the
department
of
forestry
within
within
agriculture,
both
at
the
state
and
federal
level,
I
think
we
can
come
up
with
the
plan.
I
That's
going
to
achieve
the
goal
of
everybody
in
this,
while,
while
still
protecting
and
preserving
what
what
folks
want
to.
But
it's
interesting
how
issues
roll
back
around
again
from
from
generation
to
generation,
no
comments
just
thank
you
for
ever
no
questions.
Just
thank
you
for
all
that
you
do.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
C
Yes,
I
realized
that
I
kind
of
asked
a
question
earlier,
but
I
didn't
get
an
answer
and
it
probably
wasn't
framed
where
you
would
answer
it
necessarily,
but
the
only
the
duck
blind
bid
process
I
mean
you
gave
me
an
invitation
to
bid,
and
so
I'm
just
going
by
that
document,
I
assume
that's
the
document
that
went
out
for
bidders
to
look
at
and
and
had
all
the
legal
language
and
everything
in
it.
A
very
long
document.
C
O
C
And
if
I
do,
the
math
42
blinds
times
the
30
000
to
build
and
install
comes
out
to
exactly
1.26
million
dollars,
so
we've
told
a
bidder
up
front
which
you
only
had
one,
what
your
maximum
was
and
that
ended
up
ended
up
being
exactly
what
you
got
bid.
It
seems
a
little
questionable
to
me
from
from
a
fiduciary
standpoint,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
what
how
we
got
there.
O
And
chairman,
I
can't
speak
directly
to
what,
at
what
time
in
the
process
those
documents
are
produced.
It
may
in
fact
be
that
the
maximum
liability
was
established
after
the
bids
that
procurement
was
handled
for
us
by
the
the
department
of
general
services.
We
sent
the
specs
that
we
wanted
on
the
duck
blinds.
We
had
an
invitation
to
bid.
We
got
the
bid
back.
C
Well,
just
with
the
amount
of
money
being
spent
and
obviously
with
the
finance
committee,
that's
what
concerns
me
is
just
how
that
was
handled,
and
I
mean
it
was
on
the
quote
invitation
to
be
it.
That
was
the
document
label
that
you
had
sent
me
and-
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
interpret
that,
but
we
would
appreciate
a
follow-up
with
clarity
on
that.
Certainly.
A
Thank
you
just
a
couple
of
follow-up
questions
on
I'm,
not
a
wildlife
person,
but
the
asian
carp
we've
been
talking
about
those
ever
since
I've
been
on
this
committee
and
you
guys
have
been
coming
in
front
of
us.
You
mentioned
the
bio
acoustics
and
some
other
efforts
that
are
underway
to.
I
guess.
A
I
don't
know
if
the
appropriate,
if
we're,
hopefully
we're
trying
to
reduce
asian
carb
but
also
contain
the
spread.
So
just
have
there
been
any
more
incursions
of
asian
carp
further
into
our
waterways
than
the
last
time
we
were
together
or
are
we
being
successful
and
at
least
keeping
them
where
they
are?
Where
they've
been
found
today
right,
I'm.
P
P
There
was
one
one
that
collected
or
one
reported
from
an
angler
up
in.
I
believe
it's
lake,
chickamauga
and
but
we've
have
a
crew
up
there
that
dedicated
to
going
out
looking
and
looking
looking
for
any
sign
of
any
we're.
Not
we've
not
found
one
since
then.
So
I
don't
know
if
it
was
a
just
a
fluke
that
would
go
up,
but
the
good
thing
about
the
asian
carp
situation
is
that
they
don't
tend
to
just
go
upstream
until
they
can't
go
any
further
right.
P
A
A
G
Yes
ma'am,
so
we've
added,
probably
six
new
positive
counties
since
we
were
before
you
last
year,
there's
a
total
of
13
positive
counties
now
and
five
high
risk.
A
positive
county
means
that
we
have
detected
the
disease
there
and
the
high-risk
counties
means
that
it's
within
a
10-mile
radius
of
a
positive
county,
so
that
makes
it
high
risk.
A
In
light
of
the
fact
that
that
it
is
spreading
in
in
spite
of
best
efforts
today
at
least
best
average
today,
are
there
any
new
measures
or
any
other
methods
that
you're
looking
at
to
try
and
contain
that
spread?.
G
That's
going
to
be
able
to
stop
that
and
we're
taking
measures
to
try
to
slow
that
spread
and
we're
doing
that
with
our
hunters
and
we're
trying
to
incentivize
hunters
to
be
able
to
harvest
more
deer
and
then,
when
we
have
what
we
call
a
spark
which
is
like
a
new
hot
zone,
that'll
pop
positive
or
deer,
that
kind
of
pops
out
from
the
main
area.
We
will
go
in
and
do
targeted
removal
and
that's
where
we
work
with
the
usda
for
services
and
we'll
work
with
a
willing
landowner.
O
So
we're
still
constantly
searching
for
what
the
outer
edge
of
that
disease
is,
and-
and
I
don't
know
that,
even
since
our
initial
detection,
we
have
hammered
it
down
all
the
way.
But
with
this
is
a
disease.
That's
here
to
stay,
and
it's
going
to
be
one
that
we
hope
science
develops
on
and
we're
going
to
stay
on
the
cutting
edge
of
it.
To
do
everything
we
can
to
prevent
any
more
counties
from
being
added
to
that.
To
that
list,.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
director,
commissioners.
I
did
just
hear
the
chair
of
finance,
say
she's,
not
much
of
a
wildlife
person.
I
think
that
is
an
invitation
for
y'all
to
take
her.
I
think
it
would
be
lake
chickamauga,
that's
closest
to
you
to
hook
into
a
striper
in
chickamauga,
I'm
sure
y'all
can
make
that
possible,
or
some
fish
of
the
sort.
That's
big
in
that
lake.
H
P
Challenge
accepted,
we,
you
also
might
catch
a
big
florida
bass
in
chickamauga
too,
which
is
very
successful
program
down
there
as
well.
Thank.
A
You
are
there
leader,
lambert.
E
Chairman,
just
the
chairman
brings
up
a
really
good
point
and
if,
for
some
reason,
fish
weren't
necessarily
something
you
might
be
interested
in
pursuing
turkey
season
is
just
around
the
corner,
and
I
I
personally
would
love
to
attend
any
type
of
hunting
expedition
in
which
maybe
you're
calling
in
a
big
gobbler
and
we're
in
a
blind
to
experience
that
fully.
I
would
that
be
something.
A
I've
had
turkeys
in
my
backyard
before
so
I've
seen
them
up
close
and
personal.
I
developed
personal
relationships,
so
I
I
would
really
you
know
I
it
would.
It
would
break
my
heart
to
have
to
bother
those
poor
animals
and
I'm
not
sure
that
any
of
you
want
to
be
in
a
blind
with
me.
If
I
have
a
weapon.
A
So
as
this
conversation
is
deteriorating
incredibly,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
and
answering
our
questions
and
the
information
that
was
requested.
I'm
sure
you'll
get
back
with
us
on
that,
and
we
thank
you
for
that.
We
are
back
in
session
and
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.