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House Finance, Ways & Means Subcommittee House Hearing Room 3
C
A
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
members
I'd
like
to
call
the
finance
ways
and
means
subcommittee
to
order
for
march
9
2022..
Are
there
any
announcements
or
personal
orders
this
morning,
seeing
none?
We
have
42
bills
on
our
calendar
for
today
and
we're
going
to
begin
with
item
number
one
item
number
one
is
going
to
be
house
bill.
2656
by
chairman.
F
You,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
committee
house,
bill
2656,
is
a
is
a
bill
that
I'm
presenting
on
behalf
of
speaker,
sexton,
also
known
as
truth
and
sentencing
bill,
and
this
is
what
it
does
it
it
it
it's
vital
for
holding
the
the
violent
offenders
accountable
for
their
actions,
while
also
protecting
victims
in
the
public.
F
Under
the
system
we
have
now
there's
not
a
judge,
a
jury,
a
district
attorney
or
department
of
corrections
or
anybody
else
who
can
tell
the
family
of
a
victim
how
long
a
person's
going
to
be
in
the
incarcerated
till
they're
eligible
for
parole
or
get
a
parole
hearing
or
come
out
on
pearl.
There's
no
way
to
define
that
now.
F
So
this
bill
takes
the
most
violent,
offenses
and
says
that
whatever
the
judge
gives
you
or
the
jury
gives
you
that's
exactly
what
you're
going
to
serve
a
hundred
percent
of
what
the
judge
gives
you
or
the
jury
gives
you,
and
it
says
you
cannot
have
sentencing
credits
to
take
days
off.
You
can
earn
sentencing
credits
and
they
can
be
used
for
other
things
like
classification
or
benefits
or
anything
else
in
the
system,
but
they
cannot
be
used
to
take
away
days
or
time.
That's
on
your
sentence.
F
A
All
right
members,
you've
heard
the
description
of
house
bill
2656
any
discussion,
cnn
house
bill
2656
does
have
a
fiscal
note
that
is
associated
with
it.
We
will
have
to
place
it
behind
the
budget,
but
we
certainly
do
look
forward
to
working
with
you
to
get
this
across
the
finish
line,
so
without
objection
house
bill
2656
behind
the
budget.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee.
Thank
you.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
two
on
our
calendars
house
bill
2663
by
chairman
farmer.
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
members.
I'm
presenting
house
bill
2663
on
behalf
of
speaker
sexton.
This
is
going
to
be
known
as
the
mental
health
treatment
act
of
2022
and
it's
going
to
create
a
new
mental
health
court
treatment
program.
We're
going
to
use
existing
judges,
so
we're
not
going
to
hire
any
more
judges.
C
That's
going
to
be
grant-based,
it's
not
be
avail,
it's
not
gonna
be
available
for
any
sort
of
violent,
violent
offender
or
sex
offender,
and
you
must
have
a
diagnosis
of
severe
persistent
mental
illness
and
it
looks
like
it's
a
real
good
policy.
We've
talked
about
giving
people
the
help
we
need.
You
know
this.
A
C
A
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you
committee.
This
bill
is
addressing
pharmacy
benefit
managers.
You
all
may
have
heard
the
term
pbms
I'll
refer
to
them
as
pbms
from
henceforth
the
legislation
authorizes
the
commissioner
to
promulgate
some
rules
to
effectuate
policies
regarding
how
they
are
are
governed.
G
It's
going
to
put
some
regulations
on
them
at
the
same
level
as
insurance
companies
are
regulated,
it
will
authorize
the
department,
some
additional
oversight,
so
in
order
to
make
sure
that
the
pbms
are
ensuring
patient
access
to
affordable
drugs.
These
rules
will
include,
but
won't
be
limited
to
implementing
audits
as
necessary,
requiring
additional
requirements
for
licensure,
complaint
processes
and
administrative
hearing
processes
to
be
followed,
and
it
also
authorizes
the
commissioner
to
charge
a
fee
to
be
paid
to
cover
the
cost
of
the
pbm
program
that
would
be
implemented
with
that.
A
Thank
you.
Chairman
members,
you've
heard
the
description
in
discussion
on
house
bill
2660.,
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
2660,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
all
those
opposed.
No
the
eyes
have
it
house
bill
2660
moves
to
full
finance
thanks
chairman
thank
you
committee
and
chairman
lafferty.
Let's
go
ahead
and
since
you're
up
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
skip
over
to
item
number
13.,
I
was
hoping
you'd
say
that
we'll
give
everyone
just
a
second
to
get
there
again,
that's
going
to
be
item
number
13..
A
G
Thank
you
for
that
chairman.
This
one
is
pretty
straightforward.
We
have
not
increased
the
fee
to
be
fi
to
be
charged
to
someone
for
running
past,
a
stop
sign
that
is
displayed
on
the
side
of
a
school
bus
for
a
number
of
years.
Currently
that
fine
is
only
fifty
dollars,
we're
looking
to
increase
that
to
two
hundred
dollars
and
with
that
I'll,
take
any
questions
all.
A
H
G
So
I'm
not
exactly
clear
how
many
of
our
school
buses
presently
have
cameras
on
them.
It
seems
like
right
now.
The
camera
is
the
enforcement
source
for
the
tickets
as
they're
issued
now.
So
I
don't
think
that
this
addresses
any
of
that.
It
simply
changes
if
you've
got
a
camera
on
a
school
bus,
and
you
can
snap
that
picture
and
bust
that
guy
then
you're
going
to
be
paying
200
instead
of
50
dollars.
H
Chairman
williams,
thank
you
well,
this
is
one
of
the
a
big
problem
in
my
community.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
bill.
I
hear
from
bus
drivers
all
the
time
where
it
seems
like.
In
some
cases
they
have
the
same.
People
that
are
are
breaking
the
law.
This
gives
them
the
ability
to
be
able
to
catch
them
when
law
enforcement
can't
be
there
during
the
event,
this
gives
them
an
opportunity
to
do
that,
so
very
supportive
of
your
bill,
thanks
for
bringing
today.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
chairman
williams,
leader
again,
you're
recognized.
Thank
you
chairman.
Are
there
any
earmarks
for
this
increase
that
are
going
to
a
certain
place.
G
A
Okay,
all
right.
Thank
you
further
discussion.
Seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
2550,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
all
those
opposed.
No
the
eyes
have
it
house
bill
2550
moves
to
full
finance.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
14
on
our
calendars
house.
Bill
he's,
got
one
more
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
go
to
item
number
14
house
bill
813.
Also
by
chairman
laffer.
You
have
a
motion.
A
second
looks,
like
you
have
an
amendment
that
you
would
like
to
file.
Is
that
correct.
A
G
G
Right
now
we
have
got
a
series
of
kitchens
across
the
state
that
these
folks
must
pay
to
use
must
make
transport
transportation
to
get
there
to
use,
or
they
have
to
find
a
commercial
kitchen
locally,
that
they
can
use
those
kitchen.
Those
kitchens
are
all
licensed
and
inspected.
This
removes
the
people's
anybody.
That's
wanting
to
produce
something
will
not
have
to
go
and
use
one
of
those
commercial
kitchens.
They
can
start
producing
small
batch
products
in
their
home,
whatever
they're
capable
of
creating
and
part
of
the
legislation,
instead
of
being
licensed,
they
must
disclose.
G
This
was
made
at
my
house.
This
was
made
in
a
kitchen
that
is
not
inspected.
These
are
the
ingredients.
This
is
who
who
we
are.
This
is
how
you
contact
us.
So,
basically,
what
we're
doing
is
trying
to
open
the
door
for
people
in
rural
communities
for
people
in
the
city
that
maybe
have
a
talent
for
confections,
whatever
it
might
be,
give
them
an
opportunity
to
sell
food
products
locally,
grown
locally
sourced
and
locally
distributed
cuts
out.
Distribution
cost
cuts
out
a
lot
of
other
things.
It
does
not
stop.
G
This
bill
does
not
stop
the
department
of
agriculture
or
the
department
of
health
from
investigating.
If
there
is
ever
a
cause
of
a
food
borne
illness,
they
still
have
all
of
the
rights
to
go
in
and
make
sure
that
things
are
going.
Okay
in
that
regard,
otherwise,
hey
I
made
this
in
my
kitchen
today.
Would
you
like
to
purchase
it
from
me?
Yes,
I
would
here
you
go
exchange
done
and
move
on
with
that
I'll.
Take
any
questions.
A
I
Thank
you
just
a
question
for
the
sponsor
yeah,
we'll
we'll
do
the
dodge
thing.
So
this
does
not
stop
the
department
of
ag
or
whom
department
of
health
investigating
you
know
an
outbreak
that
could
be
traced
back,
but
is
there
any
upfront
there's
no,
no
methodology
for
inspection
of
this
home
kitchen.
So
it's
sort
of
buyer!
Beware:.
G
That
is
exactly
right.
It
is
exactly
buyer,
beware,
but
it
is
fully
disclosed
and
the
way
that
I
see
this,
the
example
that
I
use,
I
had
a
neighbor
that
made
sourdough
bread
and
when
the
wind
was
blowing
the
right
direction,
my
mouth
started
to
water.
I
was
you
know,
I'm
looking
forward
to
some
sourdough
bread.
I
know
marianne,
I
suspect
most
of
the
people
that
do
this
kind
of
process
are
going
to
be
known
in
their
community.
G
This
is
we're
not
talking
about
I'm
making
something
in
knoxville
and
shipping
it
to
nashville,
where
we've
got
that
huge
distance,
we're
talking
about
a
community
where
the
people
live,
the
people
work,
their
families
are,
and
you
have
to
know
exactly.
What's
that
this
was
made
to
your
buyer.
Beware
question
this
was
made
in
my
kitchen
that
will
be
on
the
packaging.
This
was
made
without
inspection,
that's
on
the
packaging.
So
yes,
it
would
be.
Buyer,
beware
and
allowing
adults
to
make
their
decision
on
how
they
want
to
spend
their
dollars.
I
And
is
there
something
specifically
in
the
bill
that
prohibits
that
kind
of
transportation
prohibits
my
mother
lives
in
alabama?
If
she
wanted
to,
she
makes
really
good
chocolate
pies.
If
I
wanted
to
bring
her
chocolate
pies
to
nashville
and
sell
them,
is
there
something
in
the
bill
that
would
prohibit
that
from
happening
assuming
she
lived
in
tennessee?
That
was
a
bad
example.
I'm
sorry.
G
So
there
are
some
limitations
to
foods
that
are
time
sensitive
and
temperature
sensitive.
We
don't
want
something
that
is
going
to
spoil
quickly
out
there,
because
that
would
create
some.
You
know.
Bacteria
grows
quick,
we're
not
talking
about
food
products
like
that.
We're
talking
about
things
that
have
stable
shelf
lives
that
are
easily
transported
easily
made
easily
consumable.
I
G
That
is
a
wonderful
question
for
which
I'm
going
to
have
a
poor
answer.
I
have
not
exactly
thought
through
that
part
of
it,
but
it
is
back
to
the
buyer.
Beware
side
of
things
you
know
who
you're
dealing
with
you
know
where
this
came
from.
If
you
wish
to
trade
your
dollars
for
whatever
the
product
might
be,
then
that's
your
right
as
a
free
citizen.
G
If
you
have
some
issues,
you
can
report
those
issues
to
the
department
of
health
to
the
department
of
ag
and
you
can
you
could
get
something
going
that
way.
So
there
are.
There
are
remedies
if
somebody
if
there
is
a
bad
actor
out
there,
but
I'll
point
out
too.
We
occasionally
in
this
country
have
huge
outbreaks.
G
Salmonella
other
things
like
that
that
go
on
and
we've
got
all
kinds
of
regulations
around
our
farms
around
our
cattle
and
we
still
have
instances
arise.
Chellady,
hayeswood,.
I
And
I'm
not
sure
that
I
understood
the
answer
in
it
because
I
phrased
my
question
poorly.
But
again
is
there
some
something
in
the
legislation
and
some
methodology
for
monitoring
that
I
would
not
be
able
to
make
a
product
in
chattanooga
and
put
in
my
car
and
sell
it
in
memphis.
At
a
you
know,
craft
fair
or
whatever
you.
I
So,
which
kind
of
negates
your
argument
that
you
would
know
who
you
were
buying
these
products
from
and
that
would
be
someone
in
your
community.
I
appreciate
the
you
know
the
idea
and
the
attempt
to
loosen
the
shackles
as
you
mentioned,
but
I
do
have
some
health
and
safety
concerns
and
for
that
reason
I'll
be
voting
knowing
your
bill,
but
thank
you
so
much
sure.
Thank
you,
mr
champ.
Thank.
J
Thank
you
chairman,
so
you've
said
a
couple
of
times
that
there's
a
requirement
for
a
buyer.
Beware:
notification!
Is
there
anything
in
the
bill
that
that
calls
out
how
large
that
has
to
be
or
where,
on
the
dock,
on
the
packaging?
It
is.
J
Yes,
I
mean
we
had
several
bills
recently
that
required
very
specifically
red
signs.
You
know:
yellow
lettering
called
out
the
the
height
so
that
it
was
very
clear
and
I,
as
I
was
looking
through,
I
didn't
see
it
so,
the
back
to
the
comment
made
a
second
ago,
seeing
that
there's
no
limitation
to
where
you
can
transport.
This
also
didn't
see
anything
that
wouldn't
allow
somebody
to
buy
up
a
bunch
of
cookies
and
bread
and
package
them
together
and
take
them
somewhere.
J
That
may
not
be
from
one
kitchen.
They
could
be
from
10
kitchens
and
the
the
comment
that
we
currently
have
breakouts
in
in
health
and
food
safety.
I
mean
that's
with
all
the
oversight.
All
the
inspections-
and
I
mean
to
me,
removing
those
guard
rails
is
is,
could
be
potentially
dangerous
and
if
someone
goes
into
a
store
and
assumes
that
a
product
was
made
in
a
facility
that
was
tested
for
safety
and
and
they
they,
they
don't
understand
what
they're
reading
that
it
was
made
in
a
home
kitchen.
G
May
give
you
just
a
little
bit
of
what
is
required
on
the
packaging,
yes
on
the
label
affixed
to
the
package.
If
the
food
item
is
packaged
on
the
label,
it
must.
Let's
see
there
must
be
a
placard,
I'm
getting
confused
here,
just
a
second!
So
it
does.
The
product
should
say
the
product
is
produced
at
a
private
residence
that
is
exempt
from
state
licensing
and
inspecting
this
product
may
contain
allergens.
G
The
information
required
must
be
affixed
to
the
package.
If
the
food
item
is
packaged,
it
must
be
on
a
label
of
fix
to
the
container.
If
the
food
item
is
offered
for
sale
in
a
bulk
container,
it
must
be
on
a
placard
displayed
at
the
point
of
sale.
If
the
homemade
food
item
is
neither
packaged
or
offered
for
sale
in
a
bulk
container
on
a
web
page
on
which
so
we
could
sell
this
over
the
internet
on
a
web
page
on
which
the
homemade
food
item
is
offered
for
sale.
G
If
the
homemade
food
item
is
offered
only
for
sale
on
the
internet
and
finally,
I
think
if
the
homemade
food
item
is
sold
by
phone
or
custom
order,
the
seller
need
not
display
the
information
required
there,
but
the
seller
shall
disclose
to
the
consumer
that
the
homemade
food
item
is
produced
in
a
private
residence
that
is
exempt
from
state
licensing
and
inspecting
so
back
to
buyer.
Beware:
this
is
people
making
choices,
how
to
spend
their
dollars
and
where
to
spend
their
dollars.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
There
are
a
couple
of
amendments
and
I
wasn't
following
close
enough
to
see
which
one
we
are
on
just
to
make
sure,
because
one
of
them
mentions
some
products,
meat
products
and
buy
products.
So
are
they
included
in
the
amendment
you're
running
or.
K
That's
what
I
assumed,
but
I
wanted
to
make
that
clear
in
case
someone
with
the
public's
following
this
and
and
I
I
certainly
support
your
effort
here.
I
think
this
is
a
good
idea
when,
especially
when
things
go
south,
but
even
just
right
now,
when,
when
folks
just
want
the
choice
to
be
able
to
to
provide
this
kind
of
a
product
to
their
neighbors
and
even
if
they
took
it
to
farmers,
market
or
whatever,
I
think
again,
folks
know
what
they're
getting
they
can
read
they
can.
K
L
Thank
you
chairman,
and
to
the
sponsor.
I
I
understand
the
intent
of
the
bill,
but
I
do
have
some
reservations,
one
of
which
is.
I
can't
tell
you
the
last
time
I
read
a
label
on
anything
I
ate.
I
I
probably
should,
but
I
just
don't-
and
I
think
the
general
public
just
assumes
there's
a
certain
level
of
standards,
especially
food
producers
are
held
to
the
second
slight
problem.
I
have
is
these
inspections,
these
inspections,
that
the
state
does
those
inspectors
are
really
a
resource
to
those
facilities?
Those
inspectors
are
very
knowledgeable.
L
They
understand
policy
and
procedure.
They
have
keen
keen
eyes
when
one
of
our
facilities
that
I
work
on
is
inspected.
It's
really
it's
a
great
tool
to
utilize
those
inspectors
work
with
the
staff
they
work
with
the
owners.
They
have
suggestions,
they
have
their
checklist.
I
mean
it's,
it's
really.
I
know
we
don't
like
regulations
in
red
tape,
but
for
the
food
service
industry,
those
inspections
are
really
a
vital
process
to
the
service
industry,
and
I
hate
to
see
that
go
away.
L
I
underst,
I
understand
the
intent
but
we're
I
I
just
think
there's
I
hate
to
think
that
the
process
of
looking
at
somebody's
production
facility
will
be
in
hindsight
when
there's
a
major
outbreak.
That
already
happens
when
this
simple
policies
of
changing
out
rags
being
sure
that
the
coolers
are
at
the
right
temperature
be
sure
that
your
prep
station
is
not
too
close
to
what,
where
you
wash
your
hands,
I
mean
those.
L
Those
are
proven
techniques
that
you
know
six
feet
makes
a
difference
when
you're
washing
hands
and
bacteria
splashing
up
from
that
sink,
you
don't
need
to
be
prepping
food
in
that
area.
So
for
that
reason
I
won't
support
your
bill
as
written,
but
I
I
understand
the
tent.
I
just
I.
I
think
that
some
of
those
guard
walls
are
are
well
intended
and
we
need
to
keep
them
in
place.
But
thank
you
to
sponsor
chairman.
G
Lafferty
response
we've.
I
appreciate
your
concerns.
There
is
evidence
in
several
other
states
that
have
done
this,
that
there
have
not
been
any
outbreaks.
There
has
not
been
any
increase
in
foodborne
illnesses
in
those
areas.
Again,
we're
not
talking
about
somebody.
That's
filling
up
a
tractor-trailer
with
foods
that
they
made
that
morning
and
shipping
them
around
the
state,
we're
talking
about
small
batch,
mom
and
pop
with
the
possibility
of
outgrowing
their
kitchen.
What
we
hope
is
they
outgrow
that
kitchen
and
they
become
the
mex.
G
The
next
mcneese
foods,
you've
heard
of
little
little
debbie
that
started.
Small
grew
big
employs
tens
of
thousands
of
people
if
somebody's
got
those
skills
and
all
they
need
is
an
affordable,
efficient
way
to
get
that
started.
This
is
what
this
is
trying
to
open
the
door
for
to
lay
the
lay
the
groundwork
lay
the
foundation
for,
hopefully
something
bigger
and
better,
and
if
not,
if
they're,
just
putting
a
few
extra
bucks
in
their
pocket
to
help
their
kids
cover
their
soccer
soccer
entry
fees
and
things
like
that.
Well,
that's!
G
Okay,
too,
we're
generating
commerce
we're
keeping
dollars
local
and,
like
I
said,
hopefully
we're
growing
something
big
out
of
it
all
right.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
I
love
the
spirit
of
this
bill,
but
I
have
a
few
reservations.
Maybe
there
should
be
a
quantity
limit
and
for
when
you
then
go
to
that
kitchen.
D
I
know
at
cumberland
university
there's
a
kitchen
available
that
people
can
use
to
make
foods
to
resell,
maybe
a
quantity
limit,
because
it
does
stand
the
reason
that
at
home,
when
you're
doing
batches,
there
is
a
point
where
it
might
become
unmanageable
when
you're
doing
a
batch
and
you
you're
really
in
on
for
your
head
and
maybe
your
standards
slip
and
or
maybe
there's
a
point
where
you
get
to
be
such
a
manufacturer-
that
it's
time
to
step
up
to
that
more
professional
environment
of
the
kitchen
at
cumberland
university
and
hopefully
one
day,
you'd
have
your
own
kitchen
manufacturing.
G
Not
exactly
sure
how
to
address
the
weights
and
measures
part
there
are
as
many
people
out
there
that
are
producing
these
things.
You
could
have
as
many
different
ways
to
weigh
and
measure.
I
guess
so.
I
don't
really
have
much
of
an
answer
for
that.
I'm
sorry,
representative
glenn.
D
And
what
about
the
batch
part
of
it?
That
that
seems,
it
seems
to
be
that
at
a
certain
point,
it
just
becomes
untenable,
unmanageable
at
home,
similar
to
I'm
thinking
like
raising
animals
at
a
certain
point
in
your
home.
It
simply
becomes
unmanageable
and
you
need
to
step
it
up
to
a
better
facility.
G
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Are
you
trying
to
get
a
situation
where,
like
my
grandmother,
make
the
best
caramel,
cakes
and
their
neighbors
during
christmas
that
want
one
of
her
cakes,
so
she'll
be
able
to
buy,
probably
make
bake
about
10
of
these
cakes
and
sell
them
to
the
neighbors,
and
so
on
this
provision
she
on
this
bill.
She
could
do
that
without
having
to
go
through
some
licensure
process.
Is
that
what
you're
trying
to
get
at
with
this
bill
that.
B
G
I
B
B
You
would
be
like,
I
guess
the
onus
is
on
the
individual
too,
on
the
income
when
they're
filing
their
taxes,
then
they
could
okay
much.
C
Thank
you,
madam.
I
mean
mr
mr
chair,
that's
twice
sorry
somebody
put
me
up
to
that,
but
no
thank
you
chairman
this
in
this
economy.
We
have
here
in
tennessee.
C
This
legislation
supports
small
businesses
and
small
businesses
are
the
backbone
of
our
economy
here
in
tennessee
and
and
this
hits
at
the
local
part
of
every
one
of
our
districts,
of
supporting
our
local
business
owners
and,
and
who
knows,
this
can
be
something
that
develops
into
something
much
larger
and
then
they
take
the
appropriate
steps
that
need
to
be
taken,
and
I'm
very
supportive
of
this.
I
have
these
type
small
businesses
in
my
district
and
I'm
going
to
be
supportive
of
this
legislation
and
thank
you
for
bringing
it.
I
thank
you
for.
G
L
Thank
you
chairman.
I
think
the
trigger
is
4
800
for
reverting
revenue
to
the
department.
If
I
think
that
question
was
asked
early,
if
I,
if
I'm,
if
I
remember
correctly,.
H
Chairman
williams,
thank
you,
chairman
lafferty.
Thank
you
for
this
bill.
I
you
know
it's
interesting.
We
spend
millions
of
dollars
as
a
state
to
try
to
develop
cte
education
and
other
things,
because
we're
trying
to
make
create
pathways
for
kids
in
our
schools.
What
this
bill
would
do,
it
would
say
to
a
16
year
old,
guy
or
gal.
H
You
can
make
desserts
in
your
house
and
sell
them
at
the
corner
market,
with
the
idea
that
you're
developing
a
pathway
to
something
else,
one
of
the
most
prolific
cake
makers,
I've
ever
met
in
my
life,
started
in
her
home
she's
in
her
60s
now.
But
she
started
in
her
home
when
she
was
a
little
girl
and
she
makes
some
made
our
wedding
cake
when
we
got
married,
and
I
just
think
if,
if
we're
going
to
remove
barriers
for
people
to
be
successful
in
their
lives,
this
is
an
opportunity
for
them
to
do
that.
H
I
agree
with
my
representative
friend
to
my
right.
Maybe
there
is
a
gross
sales
dollar
volume
number
where
he
says.
Okay,
now,
you've
got
to
this
point.
You
got
to
spend
50
000
on
a
commercial
grade
kitchen
that
makes
sense,
but
what
you're
doing
is
you're
disincentivizing,
the
creativity
of
young
people
or
or
somebody
a
young
mother
who's
trying
to
get
back
in
the
workforce.
This
gives
her
an
opportunity
to
do
that
and
stay
home
with
their
kids.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
chairman
williams,
any
further
discussion
again,
we
are
on
the
amendment.
I
see
no
further
discussion
on
the
amendment.
Therefore,
we
are
now
voting
on
amendment
014
961
to
house
bill
813,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
posts
know
the
eyes
have
it.
We
are
back
on
8
13,
as
amended.
A
Members,
let
me
state
again
if
you
would
like
to
be
recorded
as
a
no
anytime
throughout
our
hearing
this
morning.
Please
let
the
clerk
know
all
right
with
that
said,
we're
back
on
the
bills
amending
any
discussion.
Further
discussion
questions
been
called
the
objections
called
the
question.
Seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
813,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
all
those
opposed
know
the
eyes.
Have
it
house
bill
813
moves
to
full
finance.
A
Item
number
four
on
our
counters
house:
bill
1025
by
leader,
lambert
that
has
been
requested
to
be
rolled
two
weeks.
So
without
objection
house
bill
1025
rolled
two
weeks,
all
right.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
five
on
our
calendars
house:
bill
2098
also
by
leader.
Lamberth,
do
not
see
him!
We
will
without
objection.
We
will
roll
this
to
the
hill.
A
A
E
You,
mr
chairman,
this
does
not
change
any
current
law
or
adapt
any
fines.
This
is
simply
a
500
allocation,
so
this
tax,
so
the
coordinator
of
elections,
can
make
printed
copies
for
the
precincts.
E
This
is
to
put
up
a
warning
sign
at
the
precincts
that
someone
could
potentially
be
committing
a
classy
misdemeanor,
which
is
already
in
current
law
if
they
cross
over
from
one
party
to
the
other
without
the
intention
of
staying
or
they
sign
an
oath
of
allegiance.
That's
current
state
law.
This
is
putting
a
warning
sign
up
when
people
vote
just
so
they're
aware
they
could
be
breaking
the
law
and
that's
all
it
does.
A
J
Sorry,
chairman,
I'm
going
to
stop
asking
questions
after
this,
so
I
just
want
to
understand
so
I'm
a
democrat
you're,
a
republican.
I
like
you,
I
want
to
vote
for
you.
I
can
be
committing
a
classy
felony
for
voting
for
you
in
a
primary.
E
That's
current
state
law.
The
way
the
law
is
structured
right
now
that,
if
you
cross
from
one
party
over
into
the
other
without
the
with
the
intention
of
not
staying-
and
you
don't
sign
an
oath
of
allegiance,
you're
already
committing
a
class
c
misdemeanor,
this
doesn't
change
that.
It
just
puts
a
warning
sign
up.
So
people
know
when
they
go
vote.
J
Recognized
so
I
know
in
a
lot
of
states,
we
we
register
with
a
party
and
that's
it.
What
is
the
process
today
so
how?
How
do
I
know,
you're
a
registered
republican
and
I'm
a
registered
democrat
well.
A
E
Don't
have
registered
vote,
but
we
do
have
primary
history.
If
you
have
a
history
of
say,
let's
say
that
you
have
a
history
of
voting
straight
d's
and
you
cross
over
into
the
republican
primary
and
then
the
next
election.
You
go
straight
back
to
the
democrat
primary.
That's
how
we
judge
whether
you're
a
democrat
republicans,
what
primary
you
request.
That
would
be
breaking
the
law
now,
if
you
are
a
democrat
and
crossed
over
into
the
republican
primary
and
you
kept
voting
republican,
then
you're
not
breaking
more
and
again,
this
isn't
changing
the
law.
A
Representative,
all
right
further
discussion,
seeing
none
house
bill
499
does
have
a
fiscal
impact,
so
we
will
have
to
place
it
behind
the
budget
and
consider
it
at
a
later
date,
so
without
objection
house
bill
499
behind
the
budget.
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you
all
right.
Let's
go
back
to
item
number
five.
A
M
You,
mr
chairman,
and
and
I
will
keep
it
very
brief
and
I
have
a
lot
of
bills
today.
This
bill
has
been
filed
many
times
over
the
years
to
make
assault
on
an
officer
with
bodily
injuries,
so
someone
comes
up
and
literally
punches,
an
officer
in
the
face
or
something
like
that
and
any
felony.
Many
other
states
do
this.
In
fact,
several
that
are
surrounding
us.
M
This
moved
through
all
of
our
committees.
It
does
have
a
fiscal
note,
but
unfortunately,
the
senate
judiciary
committee
disagreed
with
the
wisdom
of
our
committees
and
this
bill
actually
failed
in
the
senate
judiciary
committee.
So
I
was
relatively
surprised
by
that,
but
obviously
bicameral
legislature
that
can
happen
at
this
time.
Mr
chairman,
I
would
ask
to
be
taken
off
notice.
All.
H
Thank
you,
leader,
lambert.
I
just
wanted
to
say
this
actually
happened
to
one
of
my
police
officers
in
my
community
about
three
years
ago
on
a
traffic
stop
guy
didn't
want
to
get
arrested,
knocked
six
of
his
teeth
out
had
to
have
surgery,
misdemeanor
charge.
We
really
as
a
as
a
as
a
body,
should
look
at
this
about
protecting
our
law
enforcement.
It's
extremely
important
to
us.
H
Thankfully,
he
was
able
to
get
back
to
the
to
his
job
after
a
couple
months,
but
every
year
he
calls
me
about
this
bill
and
the
importance
of
it,
and
so
I
remember
just
wanted
to
say
that
appreciate
you
bringing
the
bill
look
forward
to
doing
it
again,
leader.
M
C
M
We
have
and
we've
done
it
in
many
different
ways.
The
one
thing
we
have
resisted
doing
in
years
past,
for
some
reason,
is
exactly
the
situation
that
chairman
williams
mentioned
is
where
an
officer
is
assaulted.
With
bodily
injury,
it
remains
a
misdemeanor,
unfortunately,
under
state
law.
So
we
have
left
our
officers
out
there
in
a
very
dangerous
position.
M
In
my
humble
opinion-
and
that
is
something
that
hopefully
at
some
juncture
in
the
future
will
be
rectified
it
just
again,
I
I'm
always
big
when
I'm
on
committees-
and
I
know
you
are
too
that
if
a
bill
fails
in
the
senate,
then
you
know
to
not
move
it
forward
over
here
and
at
this
juncture
again,
that's
the
reason
I
ask
that
it
be
taken
off
notice,
but
I
deeply
appreciate
the
support
I'm
feeling
from
this
committee.
It's
a
it's
an
issue.
We
need
to
resolve
at
some
point.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and,
and
I
I
would
really
like
to
see
us
vote
on
this
and
keep
pushing
it
quite
frankly.
You
know
budgeting
is
a
matter
of
priorities,
as
we
all
know,
and
just
because
some
in
our
state
government
don't
believe
this
is
a
priority.
I
don't
think
that
should
lessen
our
intent
here
to
protect
those
officers
and
get
this
where
it
needs
to
be
so
I
would
appreciate
you
keeping
it
on
notice
and,
let's,
let's
vote
it
out.
Thank
you.
M
M
L
Thank
you,
chairman
and
leader.
I
really
like
this
bill
and
this
brought
up.
I
mean
we've
had
this
question
here
in
criminal
justice.
For
a
couple
years
now,
we've
we've
made
it
a
felony
to
camp
on
state
property.
We
made
a
felony
to
throw
a
brick
at
a
utility
station
to
break
a
window.
We've
protected
property
in
the
state,
but
yet
you
can
be
a
to
some
degree
a
person
and
be
hit
by
that
same
brick
and
have
severe
bodily
injury,
and
yet
it's
a
misdemeanor.
That
makes
no
sense.
L
I
don't
know
how
we
ever
got
in
this
in
this
posture
and
it
needs
to
be
remedied
quickly.
Thank
you
later
for
this
piece
of
legislation.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
M
M
H
Thank
you
and
I
recognize
that
we
all
understand.
Procedurally,
where
we've
been
as
it
relates
to
this,
I
guess
my
question
to
the
chairman
is
one
thing
we
do
know
about
bills
that
go
behind
the
budget.
They
they
go
there
to
hide
for
a
couple
of
weeks.
I
guess
the
the
point
is
he
wants
to
take
it
off
notice.
We
know
we've
kind
of
surrendered.
A
All
right
motion's
been
made
and
properly
seconded
by.
I
think
everybody
up
here
so
further
discussion
on
that
motion.
Seeing
then
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill
2098
going
behind
the
budget,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed.
No
the
eyes
have
it
house
bill
2098
goes
behind
the
budget.
Thank
mr
chairman
item
four
been
rolled
two
weeks.
Yes,
sir,
that's
correct
david.
M
Sharon
there
are
multiple
bills
on
that
topic
of
truth
and
sentencing
all
are
extremely
important
and
that's
to
kind
of
get
all
those
in
the
same
posture
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
members
of
the
committee
and
I'm
confident
every
one
of
your
law
enforcement
officers
heard
your
actions
today.
Y'all
spoke
strongly.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Members
we're
going
to
go
to
item
number
six
on
our
calendars
house
bill
2012.
house
bill
2012
has
been
requested
to
be
rolled
one
week,
so
without
objection
house
bill
2012
rolled
one
week.
That's
item
number
six,
all
right!
That
brings
us
to
item
number.
Eight
item
number
eight
on
our
calendar
is
house
bill.
25.
A
A
C
Mr
chairman
and
committee,
what
house
bill
2573
seeks
to
do
is
add
on
the
tennessee
driver's
license
an
indicator
in
the
little
restrictions
area.
If
you'll
notice
on
your
driver's
license,
you'll
have
that
there,
you
probably
may
have
something
for
corrective
lenses
or
along
those
lines,
but
we're
going
to
put
a
code
in
there
for
persons
who
have
been
convicted
of
human
trafficking.
C
That
way,
it
adds
another
tool
for
law
enforcement
if
they
are
conducting
a
traffic
stop
and
they
check
the
identification
driver's
license
of
an
individual
and
they
see
that
code
on
there.
They
can
quickly
recognize
that
that
indicates
that
this
person
operating
this
vehicle
has
been
convicted
of
human
trafficking
and,
if
there's
other
persons
in
the
vehicle,
it
gives
them
an
opportunity
to
investigate
further.
C
A
L
Yes
and
chairman,
I
want
to
commend
you
as
well
as
other
members
of
your
committee
that
have
worked
on
this
and
to
those
on
finance
that
don't
know
this.
Last
year,
tennessee
was
voted
the
best
state
in
the
nation
for
our
efforts
to
combat
us
trafficking.
So
I
commend
your
efforts
on
that
and
the
hard
work
of
your
committee,
as
well
as
other
members,
leader
camper
as
well,
who
have
worked
on
this
issue
for
years,
as
well
as
other
members
of
this
committee.
L
It's
great
to
see,
tennessee,
leading
and-
and
I
feel
that's
so
precious
to
us-
that
we
that
we
enforce
and
that
we
try
to
remedy.
So,
thank
you
for
your
efforts.
There.
C
Will
I
will
just
add
to
that?
Yes,
we
are
leading
the
charge
in
the
nation
as
a
beacon
of
light
to
those
is
how
to
combat
human
trafficking,
but
at
the
same
time
we
are
one
of
the
top
states
in
the
country
that
have
human
trafficking
occurring
here
and
so
you've
seen
valiant
efforts
over
the
last
few
years
to
help
curb
that
and
we're
going
to
keep
fighting
until
we
do
all
right.
Thank
you,
chairman.
A
Representative
douglas
all
right
members
need
any
more
discussion,
seeing
none
as
the
chairman
alluded
to
there.
Is
that
miniscule
fiscal
note,
so
we
will
have
to
without
objection.
We
will
have
to
place
it
behind
the
budget
and
to
consider
at
a
later
date.
So
without
objection
house
bill
2573
goes
behind
the
budget.
Thank.
A
N
A
H
Can
you
tell
me
how
how
what
this
impact
has
had
with
this
bill
being
passed
before
what
kind
of
impact
it's
had
financially
over
your
district
and
and
how
they've
utilized
it,
which
would
provide
justification
as
to
why
we
should
extend
it
great
question.
N
That's
wanting
to
move
to
the
same
exit
that
the
white
water
rafting
is
owned
in
hartford
tennessee,
and
this
is
one
of
the
things
they've
asked
to
be
able
to
be
a
part
of
that
I'd
share
with
you
after
a
committee.
If
you'd
like
to
know
specifically
about
this,
this
corporation
that's
coming
and
it
would,
it
would
hasten
this
project
alone.
H
Chairman
williams,
thank
you
I
I
guess
my
concern
about
this
is-
is
that
if
we
continue
to
do
carve
outs
like
this
time
after
time
after
time
and
extend
them,
local
communities
have
the
authority
to
do
tax
increment
financing
to
do
an
idb
or
something
as
it
relates
to
their
own
local
sales
tax?
I
guess
my
concern
is
if
we
go
to
everybody's
community,
they're,
always
going
to
have
a
great
excuse
as
to
why
or
not
why
they
want
to
retain
sales
tax
revenue
there
at
some
point
in
time.
H
A
All
right
further
discussion
on
house
bill
2614.,
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
2614,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed,
no
the
eyes
have
it
house
bill
2614
moves
to
full
finance.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right
members.
That
brings
us
back
to
item
number
nine.
A
N
You,
mr
chairman,
what
this
bill
does
is
changes
the
definition
for
elementary
schools
from
through
6
to
be
pre-k
through
six
for
the
purposes
of
receiving
federal
funding.
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
this
description.
Members
you've
heard
the
description
of
house
bill
1890
any
discussion,
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
1890,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed,
no
the
eyes
have
it
house
bill
1890
moves
full
finance.
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you,
chairman.
All
right.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
10
on
our
calendar
item
number
10
on
our
calendars
house,
bill
2706
by
chairman
howe.
Do
we
have
a
motion?
A
second?
A
O
Mr
chairman,
this
bill:
well,
the
amendment
actually.
O
A
Okay,
we
can
do
that
all
right
members,
any
questions
on
the
amendment,
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
amendment
drafting
code,
014998
on
to
house
bill
2706,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
all
those
posts
know
the
eyes,
have
it
back
on
the
bill,
as
amended
you're
recognized
on
the
bill
as
a
matter.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
O
I'm
sure,
as
representatives
you
all
receive
from
time
to
time
concerns
from
your
constituents
regarding
road
hazards,
more
commonly
known
as
potholes
as
chairman
of
transportation.
I
get
a
lot
of
those,
and
so
I
began
discussion
with
tdot
and
treasurer
lillard
about
two
to
three
years
ago
about
creating
a
system
and
come
to
find
out
that
there
are.
There
is
a
system
in
place.
The
problem
is
it's
not
functioning
properly
and
it's
just
not
working
so
in
conjunction
with
tdot
and
the
treasurer
and
in
consultation
with
the
attorney
general.
O
This
bill
was
created
and
that
amendment
that
we
just
adopted
excludes
the
ag
out
of
the
process
out
of
this
bill
and
leaves
the
ag's
responsibilities
in
place.
They
will
handle
any
claims
above
100
000,
as
they
have
done
in
the
past
now
in
describing
the
bill
by
way
of
background
that
the
tennessee
treasurer's
office
is
responsible
for
settling
all
claims
brought
by
citizens
whose
vehicles
may
have
been
damaged
by
various
road
hazards,
and,
as
I
mentioned,
that's
also
including
potholes.
O
O
O
Only
12
of
those
complaints
were
settled,
that's
out
of
1800.,
so
we
believe
we
can
do
better.
I
know
we
can
do
better
and
this
bill
will
simply
allow
tdot
and
the
treasurer's
office
to
cooperate
in
creating
a
streamlined
reporting
system.
So
I
so
our
citizens
can
be
better
served.
A
O
A
L
Thank
you
chairman,
and
to
the
sponsor.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
piece
of
legislation.
Does
this?
Can
you
tell
us
what
the
scope
is
of
these
claims?
What
can
actually
be
filed
for
reimbursement?
For
instance,
there
was
a
department
on
record
said
some
stated
some
problems
last
year
with
the
840
interchange,
some
of
the
construction
practices
at
the
at
the
bridges.
O
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'm
not
sure
what
the
statute
of
limitation
is,
but
if
the
statute
of
limitation
has
not
run
out,
then
this,
hopefully
this
reporting
system
would
create
a
better
communication
system
to
allow
those
people
to
retroactively.
Go
back
and
collect
damages
for
whatever
damage
they
serve.
O
Road
hazards
can
be
a
myriad
of
things.
It
can
be
a
subtle
bridge.
It
can
be,
for
example,
when
I
go
home
on
I-24
because
of
the
weather
we've
had.
In
the
last
few
months
we
had
three
weeks
of
back-to-back
of
snow
ice
freezing
thawing
for
about
a
half
a
mile,
the
entire
top
layer
of
some
of
that
road
is
gone
and
it
has
turned
to
gravel,
and
I've
been
told
that
there
are
people
whose
windshields
have
been
broken
by
the
loose
gravel.
L
A
Okay,
chairman
williams,.
H
I
too
have
a
broken
windshield,
but
I
didn't
turn
into
claim
the
the
the
the
data
surrounding
the
claims
and
those
paid
the
number
of
claims
and
those
paid.
I'm
told
that,
based
upon
the
old
system,
it's
because
you
had
to
prove
negligence
upon
one
of
the
state
departments
in
order
to
get
paid.
I
guess
the
question
is:
is
I
get
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
phone
calls
from
people
in
my
district
about
this
fund?
H
My
question
is:
is:
is,
is
the
proof
of
negligence
still
a
component
under
the
new
plan
or
it
is
I'm
getting
the
nod?
It
is.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
just
want
to
commend
the
chairman
for
bringing
this
because
we
all
get
a
lot
of
calls
from
constituents
wondering
where
their
claim
is.
You
know,
what's
you
know,
can
you
help
me
figure
out?
If
I'm
going
to
be,
you
know
reimbursed
or
so
I
think
this
is
a
good
way
to
help
us
solve
the
issue
when
we
get
the
calls,
if
it's
one
centralized
place
where
we
can
go
and
find
an
answer,
whether
they
like
the
answer
or
not,
it's
a
different.
B
O
If
I
may
add
also,
mr
chairman,
I
think
this
is
a
good
example
of
cooperation
between
between
two
state
agencies,
and
this
is
certainly
not
an
attempt
to
cast
any
shadow
on
on
either
one
of
the
departments.
Tdot
just
has
so
many
employees,
and
we
have
thousands
of
roadways,
state
and
interstate
roadways
and
it's
impossible
for
them
to
continuously
inspect
every
stretch
of
roadway
in
tennessee.
C
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'm
just
I'm
thinking
that
a
lot
of
people
probably
don't
file
claims
because
they
just
don't
think
they'll
get
any
compensation,
but
just
hypothetically,
if
someone
was
pulling
out
of
their
very,
very
narrow
parking
spot
in
the
legislative
parking
garage
and
they
hit
their
mirror,
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
Is
that
part?
No?
Can
we
do
that?
No.
O
A
All
right
further
further
discussion
on
house
bill
2706,
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
2706,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
all
those
opposed,
no
the
eyes
have
it
house
bill
2706
moves
to
full
finance.
Thank
you,
chairman
and
committee.
All
right.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
11
on
our
calendar
house
bill
1907
by
chairman
keisling.
You
have
a
motion
and
a
second.
You
are
recognized
for
a
brief
description,
sir,
and
thank
you
for
your
patience.
P
Thank
you
chairman,
and
that
was
a
nice
try
there,
representative
lynn,
chairman,
could
I
take
just
a
brief
just
a
brief
moment
of
personal
privilege,
please
and
I'd
like
to
direct
this
to
chairman,
hawk
to
all
now
chairman
hawke's,
north
green
team
has
now
moved
into
that
bracket.
Number
two
just
down
the
road
at
the
t:
double
s:
double
a
girls
state
tournament
they're
up
tomorrow
against
mackenzie,
so
we
want
to
wish,
of
course,
north
green,
our
very
best
and,
of
course
mckenzie
as
well
in
case
there's
any
other
in
case.
P
Someone
else
is
representing
that
area
down
there.
But
good
luck,
sir!
All
right!
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
that
and
we
have
drafted,
there
is
a
draft.
There
is
an
amendment
here,
sir
drafting
code,
one
three,
eight
three:
seven!
If
that
I
hope
that
corresponds.
P
You
very
much
members
you
may
recall
during
governor
lee's
first
year
in
office,
we
unanimously
pass
the
elimination
of
the
state
expungement
fee.
P
We
recognize
and
we
feel
that
by
removing
those
any
financial
bearers
that
we
can
assist
and
help
first-time
offenders
get
their
life
back
on
track
bottom
line.
This
bill
would
eliminate
the
100
application
fee
for
a
diversionary
program
for
first-time
offenders.
Now,
please
note,
however,
the
diversion
is
exclusively
for
individuals
with
no
prior
convictions.
P
A
P
I've
got
some
some
wrong
information
in
this
notebook.
My
apology
to
the
that's
no
problem.
A
A
Q
Sir,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
chairman
kiesling,
knows,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
that
shout
out
there.
There
is.
There
are
very
few
legislators
who
have
a
larger
geographic
area
to
represent
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
and
in
that
vein,
the
the
way
he
follows.
Every
single
high
school
elementary
school
middle
school
in
his
district
is
is
so
is,
is
worthy
of
opportunity.
So,
chairman
keisling,
thank
you
for
recognizing
the
large
area
that
you
represent
on
a
daily
basis
and
those
teams
and
those
kids
within.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
A
R
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
members.
This
829
is
what
we
have
labeled
the
cure
bill
from
a
public
health
perspective.
There
are
a
lot
of
treatments
for
disease,
but
very
few
cures.
Treatments
are
repetitive
and
therefore
they're
very
expensive.
This
bill
is
an
attempt
to
encourage
innovation
and
cures,
and
it
is
a
compact
of
12
states.
R
The
in
return,
the
commission
that
is,
will
oversee
the
compact
will
own.
The
intellectual
property
license
the
intellectual
property
rights
and
so
on.
So
this
compact
was
started
in
ohio
and
I
have
we
have
the
honor
of
speaker
pro
tempore
of
the
ohio
legislature,
the
honorable
jim
butler,
visiting
us
for
further
explanation,
but-
and
I
think
he's
going
to
try
to
convince
you
or
he's
going
to
convince
you
as
he
did
with
the
senate,
that
there
is
really
not
a
fiscal
note
on
it.
So
if.
R
A
Right
members,
just
procedurally,
let
me
tell
you
where
we
are
and
what
we
will
need.
Chairman
kumar
does
have
a
guest
speaker
this
morning.
We
did
not
make
him,
we
actually
he
didn't
make
it
on
the
list,
but
what
we
will
do
is
we
will
entertain
a
motion
to
allow
this.
If
the
committee
so
chooses
chairman
williams,
you're
recognized.
H
A
A
We
will
now
go
out
of
session
and
we
will
ask
our
guest
speaker
speaker
pro
temp,
jim
butler,
so
without
objection
we'll
go
out
of
session,
sir,
as
you
make
your
way
to
the
table,
if
you'll
just
identify
yourself
and
per
our
policy
here,
you'll
have
three
minutes
to
make
your
statements
and
then,
if
you'll,
just
sit
idly
by,
we'll
maybe
have
some
comments
and
questions.
You're
recognized.
S
S
What
this
bill
does
is
provide
that
incentive
for
cures
instead
of
treatments,
because
treatments
are
by
far
all
of
what
is
researched
right
now
in
human
clinical
trials.
Only
the
private
sector
does
that
research,
human,
clinical
trial
research,
only
the
private
sector.
Does
it
all
the
charities
government
money?
That's
only
for
basic
science,
research
and
labs,
there's
no
incentive
or
very
little
incentive
for
the
private
sector
to
develop
the
cures
where
disease
is
gone
and
there
you
don't
keep
taking
the
same
medication
over
and
over
again
and
and
rack
up
that
expense.
S
So
financially,
there's
no
incentive
for
the
private
sector
to
do
it
and
therefore
that's
what
we've
seen,
except
in
with
covid,
where
there's
a
bunch
of
money
behind
it,
and
you
see
that
and
researchers
are
frustrated
and
especially
patients
that
face
life-threatening
you
know.
Diagnoses
are
very
frustrated
because
of
that.
So
what
this
bill
in
terms
of
no
pressure
from
chairman
kumar
should
be
trying
to
convince
you
in
terms
of
the
fiscal
note,
there's
no
risk,
there's
no
upfront
appropriation
on
this
bill.
S
It's
a
multi-state
compact
six
states
have
to
pass
it.
Only
ohio
has
passed
it
so
there's
not
even
the
nominal
amount
of
dues
that
would
have
to
be
paid
for
this
session,
because
tennessee
would
be
the
second
state.
It
also
doesn't
obligate
future
general
assemblies.
That's
a
question.
I've
been
given
in
many
many
states
where
I've
testified,
including
in
ohio,
and
that
we
have
that
prohibition
in
ohio
as
well,
and
it's
just
like
voting
to
build
a
road
or
provide
care
for
for
autistic
children
or
joining
a
compact.
S
Where
there's
ongoing
dues,
that's
the
only
real
obligation.
That's
out
there.
Most
importantly,
though,
the
this
shares
the
first
five
years
of
savings
and
once
once
the
diseases
are
chosen,
it's
banks
that
underwrite
and
take
the
risk
for
the
savings.
The
taxpayers
never
have
that
risk.
The
taxpayers
only
ever
pay
what
they
act
what's
actually
saved
in
the
budget
it
has
to.
It
has
to
be
actually
saved
in
the
budget
on
a
dynamic
basis
and
then
that's
the
amount
that
would
be
shared
back
to
the
commission
and
ultimately
to
pay
the
bank.
S
So
banks
take
the
risk
in
this
and
and
never
the
taxpayers.
So
perfect
timing,
mr
chairman
and
I'll
wrap
that
up,
and
so
I
I
hopefully
I
don't
think
that
there
there
would
be
a
fiscal
note.
The
way
you
guys
do
things
here
and
because
there
wouldn't
be
the
the
dues
right
now
and
there's
no
obligation
for
future
general
assemblies.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Right.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'll
I'll
say
this.
There
is
other
fiscal
impact,
so
we
would
place
this
behind
the
budget
per
our
rule.
So
that's
where
we
may
be
heading
with
this
in
a
few
minutes,
but
until
we
get
to
that
point,
does
anyone
have
any
comments
or
questions
for
our
speaker,
chairman,
hawk.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
very
much
how
what
is
the
vision?
How
many
states
do
you
see
involving
being
involved
in
this,
and
forgive
me
if
you
said
that
and
I
missed
it
in
a
cash
award
and-
and
all
this
give
me
the
framework
of
what
you
see
this
program
becoming
please,
sir.
S
And
thank
you
very
much
for
your
question.
I
hope
at
least
we
get
20
25
states
that
join
this
compact.
The
reason
why
six
states
have
to
join
the
compact
before
it
goes
into
effect
is
five
years
of
savings
for
a
major
disease.
It
has
to
be
enough
money.
It
has
to
be
more
money
than
a
private
company
would
get
for
developing
a
treatment
for
that
same
disease.
Otherwise
the
incentive
won't
work,
and
so
I
foresee,
if
just
say,
10
states
were
to
join
the
compact
and
we're
talking
about
a
disease
like
alzheimer's.
S
Q
Chairman
hall,
thank
you.
If
I
could.
Thank
you.
It's
a
unique
idea.
We've
dealt
with
some
compacts
and
days
gone
by
that
have
been
good
and
some
not
so
good.
So
I
appreciate
the
conversation
that,
by
the
way,
my
sister
lives
in
ravenna
what
what
part
of
ohio
near
kent?
What
what?
Where
was
your
district
in
dayton?
So,
okay.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
this
may
seem
like
an
odd
question,
but
we've
got
another
bill
floating
around
about
another
kind
of
a
compact
that
has
some
implications
in
it.
Are
there
any
other
strings
attached
to
this?
For
example,
are
we
giving
any
other
authority
under
this,
and
this
can
be
for
you
or
dr
kumar,
that,
like
any
kind
of
imminent
domain
or
any
kind
of
any
kind
of
powers
that
are
transferred
from
the
state
to
this
compact
other
than
the
fiscal
part,
that's
been
discussed?
No.
A
R
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
members
for
your
patience.
It's
really
a
long
shot
and
a
pie
in
the
sky
is
how
I
look
upon
it,
but
it
will
be
fantastic
if
we
were
to
incentivize
and
cure
a
disease
rather
than
just
continue
to
taking
medications
on
a
lifelong
base
basis
for
chronic
diseases,
and
that
is
it's
an
original
and
a
fantastic
hope,
and
I
think
it
will
be
good
for
us
to
be
a
part
of
it.
Thank
you
all.
A
B
B
Thank
you.
I
was
just
thinking
about
whether
there
were
we
could
talk
about
it
later,
which
we
can
talk
about
later.
I
like
the
bill.
I
support
it.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
Further
discussion
on
house
bill
829,
seeing
none
as
it's
already
been
alluded
to.
There
are
some
other
fiscal
impacts
that
we
will
have
to
consider,
but
certainly
look
forward
to
working
with
the
sponsor
to
get
this
across
the
finish
line
at
some
point.
So
without
objection
house
bill
829,
will
the
objection
go
behind
the
budget?
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
A
T
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
is
the
governor's
tennessee
foster
hope
bill.
It
is
there's
two
parts
to
it.
The
first
part
is
of
the
bill:
will
expand
eligibility
for
extension
of
the
foster
care
services,
a
wraparound
service
program
for
young
adults
still
in
dhcs
custody
when
they
turn
18.
right
now.
If
they
go
to
college,
they
can
stay
in
the
system,
but
this
says
if
they
go
to
work,
that
they
can
also
stay
in
the
system.
T
If
everybody
agrees
with
it,
the
second
part
is
dcs
will
allow
a
to
pay
a
per
dime
to
a
relative
caregiver.
Instead
of
placing
a
child
in
full
custody,
dcs
does
not
currently
reinverse
caregivers,
who
assume
custody
of
a
child
they're
related
to,
and
this
prevents
many
real
relatives
from
accepting
the
responsibility
resulting
in
the
child
being
in
full
state
custody
at
the
full
foster
care
rate.
Under
this
proposal,
dcs
would
reimburse
caregivers
50
of
the
daily
care
of
board
rate
for
the
level
of
a
child
assigned
assigned
to
the
child
to
be
eligible.
A
A
C
You,
mr
chairman,
and
members
house
bill
2179,
allows
tema
to
designate
multiple
primary
and
alternate
emergency
service
coordinators.
Additionally,
this
bill
will
give
team
a
much
needed
authority
to
enforce
mandatory
training
for
these
coordinators.
There's
a
fiscal
note:
seventy
five
thousand
six
hundred
commissioner
elias
provide
the
funding
letter
from
the
administration
for
the
increased
state
expenditures.
A
Right
chairman,
thank
you
very
much.
Members
you've
heard
the
description
and
is
there
any
discussion
on
house
bill
2179
again,
there
is
a
funding
in
a
letter
that
we
did
receive
from
fna,
seeing
them
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill
2179,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed.
No
the
eyes
have
it
house
bill
2179
moves
full
finance.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
of
members.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
17
on
our
calendar
item.
Number
17
is
house
bill
2472
by
chairman
powers.
Is
he
available?
A
A
N
You
chairman
committee,
this
bill
contains
two
interstate
compacts
for
healthcare
professionals.
One
is
the
occupational
therapist
and
the
other
is
the
audiology
audio.
I
can
say
right,
audiologist
and
speech
language
pathologist.
We
already
have
several
of
these
interstate
compacts
for
health
professionals.
N
A
Questions
been
called
injection,
calling
the
question
sitting
down
here
now
now
voting
on
house
bill,
2561,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed,
no
the
eyes
have
it
house
bill
2561
moves
to
full
finance.
Thank
you,
chairman,
terry.
It's
my
understanding,
members
will
be
on
item
number
20
house
bill
is
2672
and
that's
been
requested
to
be
rolled
one
week.
Yes,
all
right
without
objection
house
bill
2672
ruled
one
week.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
jeremy.
All
right
members.
A
A
Item
number
23,
where
representative
byrd
has
been
waiting
patiently.
Item
number
23
is
house
bill
2409
by
representative
byrd.
Is
there
a
motion?
Second,
you
have
a
motion.
A
second
representative
bird
looks
like
there's
an
amendment
drafting
code,
zero,
one,
four,
six,
nine
one
is
that
correct,
correct!
You
have
a
motion.
Second
you're
recognized
on
the
amendment.
A
Did
you
go
ahead
and
put
that
on
yeah?
Please
all
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
do
that
any
discussion
on
the
amendment
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
amendment
zero,
one,
four,
six,
nine
one
on
two
house
bill,
2409,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed,
no
the
eyes
have
it
we're
back
on
the
bill
as
amended
and
you're
recognized
hey.
Thank
you.
K
Mr
chairman,
this
bill
is
very
simple:
it
puts
the
teachers
insurance
premium
the
same
as
state
employees
right
now.
A
lot
of
people
don't
really
know
this,
but
the
state
only
pays
45
of
the
teachers
insurance,
whereas
they
pay
80
of
all
state
employees.
So
this
would
bring
it
up
to
the
same
as
state
employees.
K
They
have
a
problem
with
teacher
shortage
because,
like
wayne
county
is
a
distressed
county
and
so
a
family
insurance
policy
is
right
at
seventeen
hundred
dollars
and
the
local
and
the
state
share
is
849
dollars
and
the
teacher's
share
is
850,
so
this
would
be
a
it
would
keep
teachers
in
these
distressed
counties,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
really
good
teachers
that
moves
off
to
a
different
county
strictly
because
of
the
insurance.
A
Thank
you,
representative,
byrd
members.
Again
any
discussion
on
house
bill
2409,
seeing
none
house
bill
2409
does
have
a
physical
impact.
Sir.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
forward
and
I
look
forward
to
trying
to
work
with
you
to
maybe
get
this
across,
but
until
then,
until
we
get
that
straightened
out
without
objection
house,
bill
2409
will
go
behind
the
budget.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you,
sir.
All
right.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
24,
representative
dixie.
A
B
Thank
you
mister,
mr
chairman.
I
can
I
can
handle
the
bill.
C
A
A
Ahead
with
item
number
24
by
leader,
camper
house,
bill
1071,
you
have
a
motion.
Second
looks
like
there
is
an
amendment
drafting
code,
zero,
one,
four,
eight,
eight
zero.
Do
I
have
a
motion
on
the?
Do
you
have
a
motion
in
a
second
any
you're
recognized
on
the
amendment?
Would
you
like
to
go
ahead
and
put
that
on
the
bill?
Yes,
sir,
all
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
do
that
any
discussion.
Seeing
now
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill
or
actually
amendment
zero,
one.
B
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
the
description
members
in
discussion
on
house
bill
1071.,
seeing
none
the
the
sponsors
already
stole
my
thunder,
and
so
it
does
have
a
fiscal
note
attached
to
it.
So
without
objection
we
will
have
to
place
house
bill
1071
behind
the
budget.
Also,
we
will
have
to
consider
it
a
later
date
as
well
as
the
bill
has
been
countered
three
times,
so
we
will
place
it
on
a
special
calendar
to
be
considered
with
our
final
calendar
pursuant
to
our
house
rule.
A
A
All
right
members,
that's
item
number
25,
we're
going
to
go
right
up
until
our
time.
So,
okay,
yep
item
number
25
item
number
25
on
our
calendars
house
bill.
1915
we've
had
a
request
to
roll
this
one
week
without
objection
house
bill
1915
rolled
one
week.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
26.
item
number
26
on
our
counter
is
house
bill.
1833
by
representative
hall.
You
got
a
motion.
A
second
looks
like
there
is
an
amendment
drafting
code,
zero,
one,
four,
two,
two
zero
sir.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
sir,
that
is
correct.
A
Q
And
and
committee,
apparently,
the
state
of
georgia
has
increased
their
penalties
on
the
disposal
of
car
tires
in
in
unauthorized
areas.
Therefore,
it
has
become
an
underground
profession
of
discarding
car
tires
and
has
somewhat
become
an
epidemic
in
our
county
and
for
those
counties
that
are
not
having
a
problem
with
it.
They
soon
will
be
basically
house
bill.
1833
is
eight
or
less
tires.
Is
a
misdemeanor,
nine
or
more
is
a
classy
felony.
Q
A
Mr
chairman,
I
renew
my
motion
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
sponsor.
All
right.
We
are
on
the
amendment,
so
we
do
have
a
motion.
A
second
you've
heard
the
description.
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
amendment
drafting
code,
zero,
one,
four,
two,
two:
zero
on
two
house
bill:
1833,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed.
No
the
eyes
haven't
we're
back
on
the
bills
amended
and
sir.
I
think
you
just
described
the
bill.
Is
that
correct?
That
is
correct.
Mr
all,
right,
thank
you
very
much.
A
Members
in
discussion
on
house
bill
1833,
seeing
none.
It
does
have
a
cost
associated
with
this
particular
piece
of
legislation.
Certainly
look
forward
to
working
with
the
sponsor
to
try
to
get
this
to
the
end,
so
without
objection
house
bill
1833
would
go
behind
the
budget.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee.
A
All
right
we're
going
to
grab
one
more.
We
may
get
fussed
up
we're
going
to
go
one
more
because
representative
travis
is
set
there
and
been
all
quiet,
and
so
that
will
be
the
last
one.
So
item
number
27
is
going
to
be
house
bill
2185
by
representative
travis.
You
have
a
motion.
Second
you're
recognized
for
a
brief
description.
Thank
you.
C
A
Very
much,
mr
sponsor
you've
heard
the
description
members.
Any
discussion
on
house
bill
2185,
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
2185,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
all
those
opposed,
no
the
eyes
have
it
house
bill
2185
moves
to
full
finance.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
committee.
All
right
members.