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House Health Subcommittee - May 4, 2021 - House Hearing Room 2
B
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Do
we
have
any
personal
orders
today
this
the
announcement
was
made
late
on
the
the
committee
here.
So
probably
didn't
invite
anybody,
but
if
they
have
personal
orders,
be
glad
to
encourage
sir,
oh
okay,
later
all
right,
we
will
go
ahead
and
take
up
our
calendar.
For
today
we
have
house
bill.
490
is
our
only
item.
A
A
I
would
probably
let's
let's
go
ahead
for
clarity's
sake
and
let
the
sponsor
make
comments
and
and
describe
the
bill
to
us
before
we
consider
the
other
amendment.
It's
been
my
understanding
that
this
bill
had
come
with
a
request
to
put
it
on
notice
before
the
end
of
session,
and
that
was
kind
of
short
notice.
That's
why
we
have
this
unexpected
calendar
today
this
bill
and
to
my
understanding
of
increased
state
expenditures
in
the
nature
of
a
commission.
That's
going
to
be
formed.
C
Thank
you,
chairman
and
committee.
This
bill
basically
has
five
goals
or
five
parts
to
it,
part
one.
It
sets
up
a
medical
cannabis
commission
order
to
help
develop
a
non-biased
medical
cannabis
program
for
when
the
federal
government
removes
cannabis
from
schedule.
One
number
two:
it
sets
up
a
process
for
decriminalizing
possession
of
0.9
thc
cannabis
oil
for
a
limited
number
of
patients
with
certain
diseases.
C
C
A
A
To
do
that
before
so
we're
gonna
we're
just
gonna
amend
the
bill
with
the
second
amendment.
If
that
passes.
Okay,
so
we'll
be
voting
on
the
amendment
that
makes
this
bill
with
the
understanding
that
we'll
be
considering
an
amendment
to
the
bill
following
so
all
those
in
favor
of
the
amendment
that
makes
the
bill
say:
aye
any
opposition
so
approved
we're
on
the
bill
as
amended,
and
we
had
from
dr
kumar
had
asked
to
consider
another
amendment,
we'll
wait
for
a
motion
and
second
on
the
amendment.
A
If
there's
okay
motion
and
second
on
the
amendment
and
I've
been
asked
to
consider,
the
position
of
the
bill
is
amended
that
we,
we
have
done
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
and
preparation
for
this,
with
the
administration
and
with
finance
this.
This
is
what
we
call
a
clean
bill,
this
amendment
that
makes
the
bill
there
will
be
some
some.
I
guess,
difficulty
in
in
assigning
a
a
second
amendment
to
this
bill.
A
In
consideration
of
the
slow
motion,
I
mean
we're
going
to
hear
this
bill
in
three
committees
today
and
finance
sub
and
full
and
criminal
justice,
and
so
there's
there's
really
is
not
considered
a
hostile
amendment
but
could
be
considered
a
confusing
and
and
and
kind
of
a
disorganizing
amendment.
So
that's
that's
the
opinion
of
the
sponsor.
D
D
If
this
bill
passes
and
this
form
of
marijuana
is
available,
then
it
be
dispensed
in
child
proof,
packaging,
that's
really
to
protect
children.
That's
all
I'm
doing,
and
no.
My
intent
is
not
to
confuse
anybody
or
anything,
and
I
don't
think
that
that
is
how
it
should
be
characterized
with
that
I'll,
be,
I
guess
I
don't
know,
I'm
a
member
I
can
move
to
for
this
amendment
to
be
adapted.
A
C
Thank
you
chairman,
and,
while
I
you
know,
I
appreciate
the
the
intent
and
I
don't
know
that
I'm
necessarily
opposed
to
it.
I
have
worked
with
department
of
safety,
the
chiefs
of
police,
specifically,
I've
been
asked
because
a
lot
of
people
have
concerns
about.
If
this
bill
gets
to
the
floor,
what
amendments
may
get
on
there,
and
so
I've
been
asked
not
to
take
any
amendments
on
the
bill,
but
and
again
it's
not
in
the
senate
version
of
the
bill.
A
And
we
have
further
comments
or
questions.
My
my
suspicion
is
that
this
bill
will
further
impact.
The
fiscal
note,
which
has
already
been
pretty
much
decided
and
really
this
this
bill
is
amended,
does
not
approve
medical
cannabis
it
it
has
the
position
to
raise
and
we
already
have
a
system
in
place
for
0.6
thc,
and
all
this
does
is
raise
it
to
0.9
for
possession
so
essentially
the
fabric
of
of
what
we
have
for
the
reasonable
intent
of
possessing
this
material.
A
B
C
Thank
you
chairman,
and
I
one
of
the
points
of
discussion
that
I
specifically
had
in
order
for
me
to
move
this
bill.
As
we
have
amended.
Currently,
patients
with
epilepsy
or
seizures
can
obtain
0.9
oil
and
they
are
decriminalized
in
this
state,
and
so
the
point
that
I
made
in
order
for
me
to
run
this
bill
is
not
to
make
it
more
difficult
for
those
patients.
So
if
anything's
increasing
the
cost
on
those
patients,
that
would
make
it
more
difficult
for
them.
B
Of
speaker
marsh,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
my
thoughts
would
be
if,
if
this
commission
is
doing
a
study
and
putting
the
rules
together,
it
looks
like
it
would
be
their
determination
whether
they
should
have
what
kind
of
containers-
and
I
think,
that's
probably
what
we
ought
to
leave
it
up
to.
Is
the
commission
to
come
up
with
the
rules,
which
is
what
I
think
we're
doing
now.
D
A
And-
and
I
might
make
a
statement-
there's
one
commission
and
appointed
very
specifically
as
to
their
background
and
and
skills
and
knowledge,
and
certainly
they
would
have
the
ability
to
evaluate
whatever
changes
were
made
in
the
safety
of
any
containers.
So
with
that
said,
I'll
recognize
dr
terry.
C
Thank
you
chairman
and
for
those
eight
new
diagnoses
that
are
there
again
they
have
an
attestation
letter
of
up
to
six
months.
This
commission,
it's
one
commission,
would
give
their
recommendations
by
the
first
of
january.
So
at
that
point
in
time,
if
they
have
other
recommendations
then
then
we
would
have
to
come
back
and
put
in
place
legislation
for
that.
So
there
is
just
one
commission.
A
For
the
comments
or
questions,
and-
and
and
I
I
it's
my
understanding
from
handling
these
other
bills
that
that
these
materials
are
intended-
and
I
think
everything
that
that
really
is-
is
purchased
out
of
state,
which
these
would
be,
of
course,
have
child
proof.
Devices
is
my
understanding
as
dr
terry.
Do
you
have
any
knowledge
of
that
yeah,
but
anyway,
further
comments
or
questions
before?
Yes,
sir,
did.
D
A
Dr
terry
and
I'm
I'm
not
sure
that
the
the
ones
that
have
been
that
have
been
presented
to
us
have
been
in
child
proof
devices
I
mean
the
this
is
this:
is
legislation
that
went
through
previously
and-
and
I
think
that
that
my
understanding
is
that
what
we
have
now-
and
certainly
anything
above
0.6-
that's
purchased
outside
the
state.
Everything
that
I've
ever
seen
did
have
child
proof
devices.
None
of
them
were
were
open.
A
So
you
can
tell
that
my
my
feeling
is
that
we
should
not
muddy
the
water
on
this
bill
that
we
we
should
leave
it
up
to
the
commission,
which
will
be,
I
think,
two
physicians,
two
pharmacists
and
I
can't
remember
what
the
other
membership
is,
but
I
think
that
they
would
be
certainly
able
to
make
those
decisions
as
we
move
forward
past,
where
we
are
now
so
further
comment.
Your
questions
am,
I
yes,
representative,
cheryl.
B
A
B
Chairman
and
and
what
dr
kumar
is
wanting
to
do,
I
think,
is
a
very
fair
thing
that
he's
asking
that
we
do
protect
our
children
most.
Definitely
we
need
to
do
that
and
he
was
talking
about
muddying
up
the
water.
I
don't
think
he's
asking
to
muddy
up
the
water,
but
what
you
know
what
he's
asking
to
do?
B
You
know
if,
if
I'm
18
or
I'm
30
or
whatever,
if
I
want
to
smoke
marijuana
or
whatever
that's
my
business
but
our
children,
we
need
to
take
care
of
our
children.
So
that's
just
a
little
bit
of
comment
might
have
to
say
about
it.
So
I
think
his
amendment
that
he's
asked
him
for
I
don't
think
he
should
be
any
problem.
A
Thank
you,
and,
and
and
let
me
let
me
say
that
that
we
we
most
likely
will
be
voting
on
the
floor
on
this
bill
in
less
than
24
hours.
Is
my
understanding
so
this
this
is
not
the
typical
progress
or
process
and
as
far
as
smoking
marijuana
this
this
bill
in
its
furthest
concept,
it
doesn't
even
come
close
to
dealing
with
that
type
of
material.
A
So
my
interest
is
is
what
we're
looking
at
as
far
as
as
a
legal
possession
of
a
product,
that's
already
in
in
child
proof,
containers
when
it's
sold
here
point
to
0.6
and
the
0.9
will
be
also
in
that.
So
my
my
effort
here
is
is
just
to
to
continue
this
speedy
process
that
that
we're
endeavored
in
to
to
try
to
pass
this
bill.
D
I
I
really
feel
that
you're
making
an
active
effort
to
undo
or
avoid
this
amendment.
It
does
not
muddy
the
water
you're,
claiming
that
those
that
the
material
comes
in
child
proof
containers.
You
did
not
see
it
in
the
beginning
and
just
by
you
claiming
it
does
not
assure
that
it
will
be
so
by
all
manufacturers
unless
it
is
required
by
law,
and
I
really
think
again,
it's
sincerely
the
most
reasonable
thing.
If
it's
not
on
the
senate
side,
how
many
times
do
we
compare
notes
with
senate
and
put
it
on
that
side?
D
A
And
certainly
with
with
just
to
take
a
a
privilege
here-
and
this
is
certainly
not
personal
by
any
means,
but
this
is
a
very
unusual
situation
and
typically
we
have
from
this
point
on.
We
have
four
weeks
at
least
to
deal
with
the
legislation
we
have
less
than
24
hours
with
this.
So
that
that's
my
intention,
I
mean
I'd
love
to
have
it
all
in
in
concrete
bunkers
where
nobody
could
get
into
it,
except
somebody
that
had
a
key.
But
you
know
this
is
not
a
personal
issue
between
the
two
of
us.
C
A
For
the
comments
or
questions,
if
none
will
be
voting
on
the
amendment
to
go
on
the
bill
as
amended,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
any
opposition,
the
we'll
await
the
commission
to
make
that
decision.
Chairman
kumar.
So
sorry,
if,
if
I
act
like,
I
was
in
some
personal
manner
trying
to
disrupt
your
efforts,
because
I
think
it's
a
very
noble
effort
to
do
that.
A
A
Yeah,
if
there's
no
other
business,
we
will
join
the
committee
to
the
call
of
the
chair.
I
appreciate
all
of
you-
there's
not
been
a
moment
this
last
year
that
that
any
of
us
have
had
to
not
have
a
quorum
in
this
committee.
I
appreciate
all
of
your
dedication
and
and
appreciate
all
the
staff.
So
we
will
adjourn
to
the
call
of
the
chair.