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House Health Committee- March 2, 2022- House Hearing Room 1
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By
chairman
williams
has
been
rolled
one
week
and
so
without
objection,
I'm
gonna
go
out
of
order
and
take
up
item
number
five
house
bill
2465
by
vice
chair
leatherwood,
he's
got
to
go
present
another
bill
in
another
committee
shortly,
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
he
could
get
his
bill
heard
here.
So
with
that
you
are
recognized.
A
Amendment
number
zero
one,
three,
eight,
two,
three!
Yes,
sir.
Okay,
can
I
get
a
motion.
You
have
motion.
Second,.
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Do
we
have
any
questions
on
the
amendment?
Okay,
seeing
none?
We
are
voting
on
amendment
zero,
one
three,
eight,
two,
three,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
opposed
eyes.
Have
it
we
are
on
the
bill
as
amended.
Do
we
have
any
questions
for
the
sponsor
of
the
bill?
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D
This
bill
deals
with
again
what
I'm
calling
the
purest
form
of
american
capitalism,
which
is
a
food
truck,
nothing
more
american
than
you
know,
a
mom
and
pop
who
can
maybe
they
don't
have
the
the
wherewithal
or
the
financial
backing
to
be
able
to
buy
a
big
building
or
to
to
go
into
a
large
business
on
the
front
end,
but
how
many
of
our
favorite
restaurants
started
as
a
food
truck,
and
they
can
do
that
for
a
slightly
lower
cost.
D
Although
I
would
argue
that
food
trucks
are
still
pretty
expensive
barrier
to
entry
when
they're
done
properly,
but
but
this
this
bill
would
seek
to
remedy.
What's
going
on,
which
is
the
state
of
tennessee,
already
regulates
food
trucks
in
that
they're
inspected
by
the
the
health
department
the
same
way
a
restaurant?
Is
they
get
a
score?
You
know
the
abc
just
like
you're
used
to
seeing
in
your
favorite
restaurant.
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D
The
bill
would
allow
cities
municipalities
to
regulate
on
their
own
property,
so
they
could
still
permit.
They
could
still
regulate,
they
can
still
inspect
as
much
as
they
want
to.
They
could
also
ban
or
prohibit
food
trucks
on
property
that
they
own,
like
city
parks,
the
city
hall,
parking
lot
so
on
and
so
forth.
D
But
what
this
would
allow
is
for
a
private
property
owner
in
a
commercial
area
if
they
want
to
make
a
deal
with
a
food
truck
owner
say:
yes,
you
can
park
in
my
gas
station
parking
lot
on
saturday
for
x
amount
of
dollars.
You're
welcome
to
do
that,
willing,
buyer
willing
seller
those
two.
You
know
free
people
come
together
and
make
a
deal
what
this
bill
does.
Is
it
gets
city
hall
out
of
the
middle
of
that
there
are
some
very
strict
and
very
intentional
fire
regulations
that
have
been
built
into
this
bill.
D
So,
in
addition
to
doing
that
annual
inspection,
the
amendment
would
allow
locals
to
inspect
for
what
we
consider
to
be
kind
of
a
basic
fire
safety
and
if
anything's
found
to
be
out
of
place
there,
of
course
they
can
say.
Look
you
come
back,
come
back
when
the
state
fire
marshal
signs
off
on
you.
So
without
belaboring.
The
point
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
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D
Thank
you.
I
should
have
done
that
this
is
identical
to
what
came
out
of
sub,
except
for
the
added
fire
safety
regs.
So
if
you
look
on
under
sea
one,
it
says
a
local
authority
shall
not
regulate
or
prohibit
the
operation
of
a
mobile
food
unit
on
private
property,
except
as
provided
here,
a
local
authority
may
and
then
it
starts
with
a
enforced
health
and
fire
inspections
and
goes
on
so
from
from
a
well
down
to
b.
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So
so,
all
of
those
enumerated
subsections
under
a
that
that
was
brought
to
us
by
the
department
of
commerce
and
insurance.
They
are
here
today
to
testify
as
well
to
talk
about
fire
safety.
It
is
of
the
utmost
importance
that
these
trucks
be
safe
and
commerce
and
insurance.
I
think,
is
here
and
they're
prepared
to
testify
to
the
fact
that,
with
the
provisions
that
are
in
this
amendment,
these
food
trucks
will
be
safe.
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All
right,
representative
clemens,
you
recognize.
E
Yeah
thanks,
mr
mr
chairman,
I
appreciate
it
and
thanks
sponsor,
I
don't
think,
there's
a
person
up
here:
who's
had
the
benefit
of
eating
from
a
food
truck
would
say
they
don't
love
food
trucks
and,
and
they
provide
a
great
resource
and
a
great
alternative,
and
they
you
know
they
help
come
out
to
events
and
our
parks
and
do
a
lot
of
great
stuff.
E
My
my
concerns
stem
from
a
lot
of
the
stuff
you're
discussing
sounds
like
zoning
issues,
and
I
feel
very
strongly
that
zoning
is
a
local
issue
and
each
local
government
should
make
its
own
zoning
decisions,
and
you,
your
your
bill,
has
a
lot
of
zoning
flavor
to
it.
So
to
speak,
that's
my
first
question.
You
want
to
respond
to
that
at
all
and
whether
or
not
you
think
zoning
issues
should
be
local.
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Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
What
I
would
say
is
that
this
bill
respects
zoning
already.
So
what
it
does
is
treats
commercial
property
like
commercial
property.
It
keeps
residential
property
like
residential
property.
So
what
this
bill
absolutely
will
not
do
is
allow
me.
For
example,
I
live
downtown
dixon,
it's
a
very
walkable
neighborhood
when
there's
a
festival
going
on
or
a
5k,
or
something
like
that.
It's
not
unusual
for
members
of
the
general
public
to
be
walking
down
my
street
through
the
neighborhood.
D
What
this
bill
would
not
allow
is
for
me
to
invite
a
food
truck
onto
my
driveway
and
my
property
and
to
sell
to
the
general
public,
because
that's
a
residential
neighborhood,
so
it
respects
zoning
it.
So
if
you're
in
a
commercial
area,
that's
where
we're
talking
about
a
private
property
owner,
doing
a
business
with
a
food
truck,
so
so
commercial
and
residential
are
totally
separate
under
this
bill,
and
I
would
say
that
we've
actually
gone
out
of
our
way
to
respect
local
zoning.
E
You're
right
guys
thanks,
mr
chairman,
so
I'll,
give
you
an
example
of
what
we
have
in
in
my
neighborhood
you're,
probably
familiar
with
it
in
the
12th
south
area
here
in
nashville.
What
we
have
is
a
commercial
district
that
backs
up
right
next
to
residential
smack
dab.
So
if
you're
in
the
commercial
you
could
be
out
on
the
patio
of
a
restaurant
noise,
music
and
there's
a
house
right
there,
there
is
no
buffer.
E
So
I
guess
my
concern
is:
what
are
we
allowing
or
how
are
we
going
to
protect,
protect
the
interest
of
neighborhoods
when
there
is
no
buffer?
And
I
don't
and
I'm
not
sure
which
amendment
we
ultimately
adopted?
I've
got
one
four,
six,
five
four!
I
don't
know
if
that's
right
or
not,
but
it
is,
are
there
any
limits
on
hours
of
operation
in
this.
D
Absolutely
so,
if
you'll
draw
draw
your
attention
to
on
amendment
code
of
14654,
the
just
before
section
three,
which
is
the
enacting
clause
or
the
excuse
me
the
effective
date,
this
section
does
not
limit
or
prohibit
a
local
authority's
ability
to
enforce
local
laws
governing.
Excuse
me,
it
comes
into
alcohol,
that's
the
wrong
one.
I
didn't
mean
to
cite
that.
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You
can
you
can
prohibit
a
food
truck
in
a
residential
zone
unless
the
property
owner
invited
them
onto
their
property,
and
then
that
is
limited
for
an
eight-hour
period
within
24
hours.
So,
for
example,
if
I'm
having
a
wedding
at
my,
we
live
in
a
family
home,
I
think
we've
had
15
weddings
at
our
house,
starting
back
when
my
parents
got
married
there
in
1968,
and
so
I
had
a
cousin
who
wanted
to
get
married
at
my
house
because
her
mother
had
been
married.
D
D
We
couldn't
you
know
be
so
loud
that
you
know
it
disrupted
the
peace
and
quiet
of
the
neighborhood,
all
those
kinds
of
things
all
of
those
local
ordinances
still
apply.
There's
this
this
notion
that
if
we
pass
this
bill,
they'll
somehow
be
this
protective
bubble
around
food
trucks
that
make
them
invisible
to
city
and
city
ordinances
is
just
patently
false.
This
bill
goes
out
of
its
way
to
make
sure
that
we
let
you
know
that
that
is
false.
D
So
I
don't
know
if
that
answered
your
question
or
not,
but
but
all
other
local
municipal
ordinances
would
apply,
and
I
would
say
too,
you
know
in
areas
where
you've
got
restaurants
that
are
backed
up
to
houses.
The
food
truck
can't
fit
on
the
property
line
between
the
back
door
of
a
restaurant.
On
the
front
porch
of
a
house
I
mean
that's
just
it's
just
not
practical,
so
we're
talking
about
commercial
property,
that's
accessible,
they
can't
block
ingress
or
egress.
They
can't
block
parking
spaces.
D
E
You
recognized
thank
you,
so
the
provision
I'm
looking
at
in
this
amendment.
It
says
that
local
governments
can
regulate,
restrict
or
prohibit
the
operation
in
a
residential
zoning
district
unless
the
mobile
unit
food
unit
has
been
invited
by
property,
owner
or
homeowners
association
in
that
district
operate
on
that
private
property.
E
So
in
so,
as
long
as
that,
food
truck
is
invited
to
that
property,
they
can
operate
for
an
eight-hour
period
within
a
24-hour
period.
I
mean
so
you
know
if
I'm
having
a
party
or
I've
got
bachelorettes
flooding
into
my
neighborhood,
renting
a
house,
and
they
could
hire
a
food
truck
to
come
on
that
resident
and
be
invited
on
that
private
property.
E
E
Without
any
regulation,
because
the
what
I
see
in
this
bill
just
says
an
eight
hour
period,
it
doesn't
say
not
past
10
o'clock
or
not
past.
Eight
o'clock
I
mean,
are
we:
are
you
expecting
the
locals
to
still
be
able
to
regulate
that
time?
Cap
or
it's
unsaid
in
the
bill?
That's
why
I'm
confused
you
recognize.
D
Thank
you,
sir
actually,
and
you
probably
maybe
the
page
cut
off,
but
you
didn't
read
the
second
half
of
the
sentence
there
so
for
a
social
gathering
or
event.
So,
first
of
all,
it's
not
again
you're,
not
just
open
for
business.
D
You
can't
be
open
to
the
public,
but
it's
unless
the
mobile
food
truck
unit
has
been
invited
on
by
property
owner
homeowners
association
in
that
district
to
operate
on
private
property,
for
a
social
gathering
or
event
for
a
limited
duration
of
time,
not
to
exceed
eight
hours
within
a
24-hour
period,
then
to
address
your
second
concern
about
10
p.m,
to
6
a.m
or
what
whatever
the
time
frame
was
above
that
in
b,
enforce
generally
applicable
local
laws
regarding
municipal
offenses,
including
offenses,
against
the
peace
and
quiet
trespassing.
D
Interference
with
traffic,
so
again
in
my
city
and
in
12th
south
may
be
different,
but
at
10
pm,
for
example,
the
band's
got
to
stop
the
crowd's
got
to
disperse.
You
can't
be
making
noise,
but
even
before
that,
if
you
are
so
rowdy
or
if
you're,
making
so
much
noise
or
if
you're
blocking
traffic
or
if
you're,
preventing
ingress
and
egress
the
city
absolutely
has
the
ability
to
come
by
and
tell
those
folks
to
to
disperse.
E
You
recognize
well,
unfortunately,
the
way
that
that
plays
out
in
nashville
is,
is
you
you
call
the
police
and
they're
stretched
so
thin
already
that
they
don't
come
and,
and
those
laws
are
rarely
enforced,
unfortunately,
and
that
goes
on
and
on
throughout
our
city,
and
I
and-
and
I
don't
know
that
our
city
has
very
many
unfriendly
regulations
on
food
trucks.
They
seem
to
be
multiplying
by
the
day,
which
is
great.
E
Like
I
said
I
enjoy
them,
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
just
a
problem
in
certain
counties
for
food
trucks
that
maybe
certain
counties
are
creating
this
problem
that
you're
trying
to
solve,
and
if
so
I
would
love
to
see
this
addressed
at
the
county
level
rather
than
us.
E
You
know,
use
a
sledgehammer
or
maybe
a
flash
water
might
be
more
appropriate
for
this
business,
which
I
hope
will
continue
to
thrive
and
it
seems
to
be
thriving.
You
know,
I've
certainly
got
emails
like
everybody
else
up
here,
but
I
I'm
concerned
about
what
we're
opening
ourselves
up
to
and
again
with
regards
to
the
fire
inspections.
E
How
is
that
going
to
play
out?
That's
a
big
concern
of
mine
because
every
locality
has
a
municipality,
has
different
fire
codes
and
fire
inspection
protocols.
So
how
is
that
going
to
be
enforced?
And
I-
and
you
said
it
was
addressed
in
the
amendment,
but
I'm
just
curious
how
that
plays
out
on
the
in
practical
terms,.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
it
does
two
things
on
fire
number
one.
The
state
fire
marshal's
office,
which
you
know
we
see
as
the
authority
on
on
fire
codes,
has
to
sign
off
on
these
trucks
annually.
So
we
make
sure
that
they
have
that
annual
inspection
just
like
they
have
an
annual
inspection
from
the
health
department.
In
addition
to
that,
local
municipalities
may
also
check
for
all
the
provisions
listed
in
a
and
the
enumerated
pieces
after
that.
D
So
if
they
want
to
come
by
and
make
sure,
for
example,
that
the
cooking
equipment
that
produces
grease
laden,
vapors,
which
may
be
a
source
of
ignition
of
grease
in
the
hood,
grease
removal
device
or
duct
are
protected
with
fire
extinguisher
equipment
in
accordance
with
the
national
fire
protection
association,
nfpa
96,
they
can
do
that.
They
can't
charge
a
fee
for
it,
but
they
can
absolutely
do
that.
If
they
fail
that
inspection,
then
again
they
can
absolutely
be
barred
from
serving
members
of
the
general
public
until
they
get
that
rectified.
E
You're
right
guys,
thank
you
and
the
way
that
I
look
at
this.
It
looks
like
we're
flipping
the
the
proactive
responsibility
here
on
to
the
the
local
governments
to
go
out
because
they
can
require
a
fire
inspection
at
no
cost
to
the
mobile
food
unit
or
food
truck
to
ensure
that
they
are
complying
with
these
different
fire
codes.
So
again
you
know
we,
my
local
government,
that's
almost
speak
to.
I
don't
know.
E
What's
going
on
a
lot
of
these
other
counties
in
this
regard,
but
they're
stretched,
then,
and-
and
I
don't
know
how
you're
going
to
ensure
the
safe
operation
of
these-
if
we
don't
continue
to
do
this
on
a
county-by-county
basis,
so
you
know
this
is
a
tough
one.
I'll
admit
this.
I
understand
where
you're
getting
at,
but
I
I
seems
to
me
from
based
on
what
I've
read
and
the
emails
I've
received,
that
this
is
something
that
can
be
addressed
and
I
I
think
dixon
county
sounds
pretty
egregious
almost
maybe
with
perm.
E
I
don't
know
that's
my
take
from
what
I've
heard,
but
I
don't
know
that
personally
and
I
I
wish
we
would
address
this
at
the
local
level
rather
than
the
state
level
thanks.
Mr
chairman,
I
appreciate
your
patience
all
right.
Thank
you.
D
A
Have
several
people
on
the
list
to
testify,
and
then
we
have
some
I've
got
members
here
that
want
to
ask
some
questions.
So,
let's
see,
let's
have
chairman
vaughn.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
chairman
curcio,
thank
you
for
for
bringing
this.
It
seems
like
it's.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
hear
about
fire
safety,
but
I'll
I'll
pass
for
now.
Okay,
the
because
what
it,
if
you
shuck
this
thing
down
to
the
cob,
what
it
sounds
like
is:
there's
a
battle
between
municipalities
in
the
food
truck
industry
over
the
revenue,
that's
associated
with
point
of
sale,
sales,
tax
and
property
taxes
for
a
standing
facility
versus
a
food
truck
who
can
show
up,
compete
with
restaurants
and
then
leave
in
today's
environment.
F
As
I
look
at
it,
these
food
trucks,
I
know
that
we
utilize
them
in
my
neighborhood,
basically
as
caterers
on
wheels.
Your
provisioning
here
for
being
invited
into
a
neighborhood
is
exactly
what
we
do.
We
twice
a
year.
We
have
a
spring
and
fall
gathering.
The
homeowners
association
invites
a
food
truck
of
whoever
it
is
that
we
have
decided
that
time.
F
We
guarantee
them
a
minimum
sales
and
they
come
and
they
park
in
our
hoa
and
two
or
three
neighborhoods
come
and
gather,
and
we
enjoy
ourselves
and
it's
a
good
time
or
there
may
be
a
wedding
event
at
someone's
farm
and
we
bring
a
food
truck
and
so
they're
they're
serving
as
mobile
caters,
and
I
don't
I
want
to
protect
that.
I
don't
want
cities
to
be
able
to
come
in
and
tell
residents
that
they
can't
hire
a
guest
who's
going
to
come
in
and
provide
food
to
them.
F
F
Your
your
bill
has
addressed
what
has
concerns
with
neighborhoods,
respecting
the
zoning
I
understand
and
it
has
addressed
the
private
event
space.
It
just
doesn't
address
the
loss
of
revenues
for
the
cities,
and
I
would
imagine
if
that
could
get
solved,
and
many
of
many
of
the
ones
that
we've
heard
from
would
probably
have
a
different
attitude.
With
regards
to
that,
could
you
give
us
a
little
bit
of
posit
a
little
bit
of
understanding
with
regards
to?
D
You,
mr
chairman,
and
I'm
thank
you
for
asking
that
question,
because
I
think
it's
very
important
to
understand
this.
So
food
trucks
pay
a
lot
of
taxes
so
at
first
when
they
purchase
their
150
000
rig
they're,
paying
sales
tax
to
the
state
when
they,
when
they
purchase
that
they're
they're
paying
sales
tax
when
they
sell
food
in
your
neighborhood
or
in
a
commercial
area,
either
one
and
wherever
they
have
domiciled
themselves,
whether
they're
an
llc,
a
sub
chapter
s
corporation
or
even
a
sole
proprietor,
which
I
wouldn't
recommend.
D
What
I
believe
firmly
that
my
bill
would
do,
because
when
you
open
up
and
you
deregulate
markets
as
we
conservatives
believe
in
then
that
rising
tide
is
going
to
raise
all
boats.
So
now,
instead
of
a
food
truck
owner
traveling
from
murfreesboro
to
go
over
to
you
know
three
counties
over
or
from
dixon
to
go
to
waverly,
or
what
have
you
you're
gonna
see
more
homegrown
options
there.
So
why?
In
the
world,
would
somebody
in
their
right
mind
travel
three
hours
to
a
community
when
they
could
sell
food
right
there
at
home?
D
It's
been
interesting
to
see
how
again,
like
I
say,
the
the
communities
that
have
been
most
protective
of
this
are
actually
reaping
the
benefit,
because
the
food
truck
owners
that
they
do
have
are
leaving
and
then
sending
that
money
back
home.
So
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
Chairman
vaughn.
You
recognize.
F
It
it
did,
and,
and
frankly
it
it,
it
didn't,
leave
a
satisfying
taste
food
truck
joke
the
because,
if
we're,
if
given
the
fact
that
there's
these
establishments
are
not
contributing
to
the
40
percent
valuation
property
tax
in
their
communities,
they're
not
necessarily
contributing
to
the
budget,
the
same
thing
that
could
that
provides
them
the
roads
to
drive
on
provides
the
police
and
fire
protection.
That's
within
those
counties,
much
like
some
of
the
other.
F
The
other
folks
in
withstanding
restaurants
have
to
for
me
to
it
would
seem
as
if
allowing
cities
to
be
able
to
recoup
some
type
of
permitting
fee
for
the
temporary
time,
because
it's
true
spending
eight
hours
on
a
park
next
to
a
sidewalk
somewhere,
doesn't
put
the
same
tax
on
city
services
that
a
standing
building
does
I
readily
admit
that,
but
the
fact
that
we're
not
allowing
municipalities
to
permit
these
operations
seem
to
me
is
the
area
that
it
seems
like
we
may
be
just
a
little
bit
out
of
kilter
and,
like
I
said,
I'm
a
known
food
truck
advocate,
obviously
a
consumer
that
it
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
can
peacefully
co-exist
with
this.
F
With
this
dilemma,
we've
been
presented
seems
like
we
ought
to
be
able
to
get
there
and
I'm
not
sure
that
this
amendment
right
now
as
the
shape
that
it's
in
gets
me
there,
but
but
I'm
just
one
vote.
So.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
indulgence.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you.
You
recognize
thank.
D
You,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
I
want
to
kind
of
put
a
finer
point
on
it.
Under
my
bill,
cities
can
absolutely
charge
regulate
permit
do
anything
that
they
want
to
on
their
property.
So
if
you're
in
a
city
park
they're
making
up
for
the
fact
that
they're
not
getting
any
property
tax
revenue
off
of
that
property
sidebar,
if
cities
want
to
pass
a
restaurant
tax,
I
think
they
should
do
that
they
should.
They
should
have
that
debate.
D
The
reason
food
truck
owners
don't
pay
property
taxes
because
they
don't
own
real
property.
In
this
instance,
I'm
sure
they
have
a
house
or
what
have
you,
but
this
business
itself
does
not
own
dirt.
However,
under
the
bill,
the
only
other
place
you
could
have
a
food
truck
is
on
a
tax-paying
piece
of
property,
so
yeah.
D
The
question
was
asked
to
me:
well
if
walmart
invites
food
trucks
into
their
parking
lot
and
that
puts
them
in
violation
of
the
number
of
parking
spaces
that
they
were
supposed
to
have
had
for
that
big
box
store
and
we
have
to
go
out
there
and
chase
the
food
truck
off.
Then
the
city
is
now
out
of
pocket
because
we
don't
get
any
property
tax
from
that
food
truck.
Yet
we've
got
to
pay
the
cops
to
go
out
there
and
chew
them
off.
My
response
to
that
is
no.
Your
beef
is
with
walmart.
D
Your
beef
is
with
the
property
owner.
Whoever
is
out
there
that
has
made
a
deal
with
the
private
food
truck
owner
is
paying
property
taxes
and
therefore,
to
the
extent
that
that
the
city
needs
to
come
by.
I
I
think
that's
going
to
be
very
few
and
far
between
that
they
need
to
operators,
and
our
bill
also
provides
provisions
for
having
to
have
waste
receptacles
having
to
pick
up
within
25
feet
around
you.
D
The
truck's
got
to
be
in
good
working
order
and
apply
with
all
of
the
municipality
ordinances
that
anytime
there
is
going
to
have
to
be
city
services
that
are
spent
to
go
out
and
say
check
on
these
guys.
The
property
owner
that
invited
the
mayor
is
already
paying
handsomely
in
property
taxes.
So
the
city
I
I
would
argue
is-
is
whole
in
that
regard,
and
somebody
even
asked
me
well
what,
if
the
food
truck
owner
then
taps
into
that
property
owner's
water
source,
you
know
metered,
water,
source
or
sewage,
or
something
like
that.
D
Well
again,
it's
a
metered
water
source.
If
the
food
truck's
pulling
water
off
of
there
they're
paying
the
meter
right
so
that
that's
all
that's
all
accounted
for,
so
I
feel
confident
that
those
taxes
are
being
collected
properly
and
again.
This
deals
with
mobile
food
units.
So
we're
talking
about
something.
That's
you
know
here
today
and
gone
tomorrow,
so
I
I
I
feel
confident
that
they've
been
made
whole,
but
I
I
understand,
if
you
feel
differently,.
G
G
What
I
think
we
have
here
we,
what
we
have
here
is
a
local
election
problem.
You
know
we
we
don't
have.
We
don't
have
a
state
problem
here
committee.
We
have
a
local
election
pro
if,
if
a
community
doesn't
like
the
ordinances
or
the
zoning,
that's
happening
in
one
town,
you
know
why
are
we
gonna
enforce
this
on
250,
more
towns
and
cities
instead
of
tennessee,
instead
of
just
letting
that
one
town
fix
their
own
problem
on
a
particular
may
day
august
day
or
november
day?
G
You
know,
that's,
you
know
it's
kind
of
like
a
sign
ordinance.
You
know
you
go
from
town
to
town.
You
know
one
town
may
allow
this
size
political
sign.
You
know
you
you
go
to.
You
know
representative
vaughn's
district.
They
probably
won't
allow
you
to
have
any
signs.
You
know
in
that
site,
town,
you
know,
clarksville's
got
a
different
sign
ordinance,
that's
expected
because
different
things
fit
different
communities
different
ways.
G
D
Thank
you.
You
recognize
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
I
hear
you
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
this
bill
deals
if,
if
this
were
a
zoning
bill,
we'd
be
in
a
different
committee.
This
deals
with
the
department
of
health,
because
these
trucks
are
already
regulated.
What
I'm
trying
to
do
is
take
an
additional
layer
of
burden
off
of
these
small
business
owners,
these
tennessee
taxpayers
and
say
enough's
enough.
You
paid
at
the
office
right
you
you
paid
when
the
state
regulated
you,
you
pay
your
sales
tax.
D
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
you
know,
don't
let's
not
fall
out
and
have
a
heart
attack,
but
I'm
beginning
to
agree
with
bo
mitchell
down
here
and
yes,
I
called
you
by
name.
One
thing
I
just
want
to
confirm
this
audience
is
limited
by
the
way
the
bill
is
constructed
using
and
between
the
two
points
between
point
b
and
c
in
section
two,
so
this
is
limited
to
a
an
eight-hour
window
of
time
in
a
specific
social
gathering
or
event.
H
And
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
for
your
indulgence,
and
so
I
mean
that
that's
catering,
you
know
I
I'm
not
sure
why
we
need
the
law
number
one,
but
then
you
know
I
have
to
go
on
the
record
and
say
you
know
my
folks
in
hamilton,
county
and
my
city
have
been
in
communication
to
me
and
are
concerned,
and
so
I
just
I
just
want
to
let
the
folks
that
I'm
hearing
back
home.
H
It
just
seems
that
the
opposition
is
rooted
in
the
local
level
and
I
do
think
that
this
kind
of
is
a
state
or
local
government
issue,
because,
if
they're
already
being
regulated,
then
you
check
the
boxes
of
this
committee.
So
again,
thank
you
for
my
the
indulgence,
mr
chairman,
just
making
some
comments.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
would
I'd
say
you're
exactly
right.
It
is
catering
when
it's
on
private
property
and
that's
exactly
why
we
need
the
bill
because
it's
illegal
now
in
many
places
across
the
state.
So
you
know,
for
example,
if
I
wanted
to
have
a
you
know:
a
food
truck
into
my
own
driveway
in
many
places
across
the
state,
that's
illegal,
but
if
I
invited
a
caterer
into
my
dining
room,
then
I
could
do
that
legally.
So
it's
a
private
property
rights
issue.
D
A
A
Thank
you
chairman.
What's
in
you
you're
next
on
the
list,
thank.
I
You,
mr
chairman,
and
to
my
good
friend
and
a
freshman
member
years
ago.
We've
always
very
rarely.
Are
we
different
on
an
issue
and
and
michael,
I
appreciate
you
talking
to
me
as
we
work
our
way
through
this.
I
I
represent,
I'm
speaking
for
the
city
of
franklin
and
brentwood
on
this
I've
been
a
resident
of
franklin
for
several
years.
I
never
heard
an
issue
about
food
trucks
in
franklin.
We've
never
had
an
issue,
they
have
worked
well
with
the
industry
and
the
local
government
on
how
we
operate.
Food
trucks
and
food
trucks
are
an
important
part
of
our
community.
I
We
have
good
standing
between
the
two
of
the
government
and
the
industry,
and
I'm
worried
that
what
this
will
do
is
undo
all
that
goodwill
and
accommodations
that
we
have
made
for
the
food
truck
industry
and
franklin
like
I
said:
I've
never
had
an
issue
come
up
in
all
the
years.
I've
been
here
and
before
I
was
here
and
with
my
colleagues
too,
I
agree
with
them.
I
This
is
to
me
more
of
a
zoning
issue,
a
local
zoning
issue
and,
and
I've
always
believed,
if
locals,
do
not
like
the
what's
happening
in
a
community.
They
can
vote
the
local
members
out
and
we've
had
steady
same
members
in
franklin
and
the
board
of
mayor
and
aldermen
for
years
after
years
after
years
called
the
people.
I
There
are
pleased
with
their
local
leadership
in
the
zoning
laws
that
they
haven't
enacted,
and
I
know
what
works
in
franklin
does
not
may
not
work
in
mountain
city
or
in
wilson,
county
or
shelby,
county
or
nashville,
and
but
that's
the
beauty
of
local
zoning
laws.
I
think
it
reflects
the
will
of
the
local
people
and
I
think
that's
very
important
that
we
recognize
that
at
the
state
level-
and
I
just
like
I
said,
I'm
representing
my
constituents,
my
city
and
but
with
that.
I
I
I
think
when
we
get
there
and
and
just
say
that
that
amendment
was
an
attempt
to
try
to
find
a
compromise
between
my
respect
for
the
industry
and
and
respect
for
the
local
zoning
authority
that
the
people
in
my
community
support.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
would
just
add
that
again,
cities
under
this
bill
can
still
absolutely
regulate
on
their
property,
so
this
is
just
dealing
with
private
property
owners
just
want
to
respect
everybody's
private
property
rights.
All
right.
Thank.
I
Yes-
and
I
understand
that,
but
also
they
local
zoning
laws
regulate
restaurants
on
private
property
too,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
you
know
balance
that.
Thank
you.
B
B
D
B
B
J
A
Okay,
any
further
questions
on
the
amendment
I'm
seeing
none.
You
do
have
some
folks
that
are
here
to
testify
and
I'm
gonna
ask
you
your
indulgence:
either
we
can
go
out
a
session
up
and
testify
before
we
put
the
amendment
on
or
we
can
vote
on
the
amendment
and
then
testify
it's
up
to
you.
Mr.
D
A
A
And
for
the
record,
there
should
be
a
little
button
there
to
turn
your
mic
on
and
just
have
you
tell
us
your
names
and
who
you're
with
and
we'll
limit
to
limit
you
to
three
minutes
on
your
comments.
C
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
with
you
today.
My
name
is
jamie
daniels,
joe
and
I'm
a
tennessee
food
truck
owner,
as
well
as
the
president
of
the
nashville
food
truck
association
for
over
15
years.
I've
been
in
the
food
service
industry
for
the
past
six
years,
I've
been
a
food
truck
owner
and
for
the
past
year
I've
volunteered
my
time
to
be
a
voice
for
food
truckers
across
tennessee,
as
we
seek
much
needed
change
in
our
industry,
redundant,
permitting
nonsensical
restrictions
and
undue
burdens
placed
on
tennessee
mobile
food.
C
Vendors
has
brought
me
here
today
in
this
binder
our
food
truck
ordinances
and
or
permit
applications
for
just
43
of
the
346
municipalities
across
the
state
of
tennessee.
As
you
can
see,
with
just
a
fraction
of
the
state
represented,
there
are
hundreds
of
pages,
noting
nearly
four
thousand
dollars
in
permit
fees
and
that
doesn't
include
the
redundant
fire
permitting
processes
or
the
fees
associated
with
such
navigating
hundreds
of
pages
of
regulations,
permitting
processes
and
applications
for
every
municipality
in
tennessee
is
extremely
overwhelming
and
time
consuming
every
year.
C
These
change
and
every
year
more
fees
are
added
as
food
trucks
gain
popularity
every
year.
We
have
to
start
all
over
learning
every
permit
process
for
the
areas
in
which
we
serve
or
are
invited
to
serve
in
trying
to
understand
why
there
are
so
many
varying
rules
and
regulations
surrounding
food
trucks.
I'm
often
told
of
common
misconceptions
surrounding
our
industry:
food
trucks-
don't
have
insurance.
Food
trucks
are
motor
vehicles.
Therefore,
by
law
they
must
follow
all
traffic
and
safety
laws.
Any
other
motor
vehicle
would
including
insurance
requirements
and
legal
parking
requirements.
C
C
Food
trucks
will
park
anywhere,
they
want
and
take
over
our
city
streets.
Many
people
assume
that
food
trucks
roam
around
looking
for
a
place
to
randomly
park
and
serve
this
simply
isn't
the
case.
We
seek
out
specific
opportunities
or
events.
Schedule
plan
get
permission
from
the
location
owners
and
advertise
all
prior
to
serving.
C
We
also
have
to
do
food
prep
before
the
window
even
opens.
We
simply
could
not
afford
to
prep
unknown
amounts
of
food
and
pay
labor
costs
just
to
roam
around
stopping
on
a
whim,
hoping
that
customers
will
stroll
by
food.
Trucks
are
not
subject
to
health
and
safety
inspections,
food
trucks
undergo
rigorous
health
and
safety
inspections
annually.
Food
trucks
are
also
subject
to
surprise
inspections
during
service
at
any
time
as
a
food
truck
owner
myself,
I
can
assure
you.
Safety
is
very
important
to
us.
C
We're
merely
asking
for
streamlined
processes,
fees
from
5
to
500,
fee
proposals
of
two
thousand
dollars,
plus
hours
of
lost
wages,
traveling
town
to
town,
fulfilling
permit
requirements
and
then
for
those
that
have
more
than
one
unit
on
the
road.
That's
double
the
wages
lost,
as
both
vehicles
have
to
apply
separately,
there's
little
to
no
consistency
from
town
to
town.
C
Aside
from
the
unnecessary
restrictions
placed
on
the
trucks,
for
example,
columbia
has
a
one-page
ordinance
with
a
30
processing
fee
and
a
50
per
location
fee
memphis,
a
27-page
ordinance
with
360
dollars
in
fees,
gallatin,
13
pages,
130,
bristol
four
pages,
400
or
places
like
dixon
that
currently
don't
allow
food
trucks
at
all
again.
This
does
not
even
include
the
separate
fire
permits
and
their
fees.
We
desperately
need
you
to
pass
statewide
mobile
food
spending.
C
C
C
Individual
towns
may,
of
course,
have
their
zoning
laws
figured
out,
but
we
are
mobile
by
nature,
so
we
have
to
move
and
we
move
town
to
town
city
to
city
all
across
the
state
of
tennessee,
and
in
order
for
us
to
do
that,
we
need
to
be
streamlined.
It
is
very
difficult
to
navigate
every
individual
city's
ordinance.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
we
have
megan
forbes.
Did
you
have
some
comments
for
us
as
well
and
try
to
keep
it
to
three
minutes.
K
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
testify
in
support
of
house
bill
2120.
My
name
is
megan
forbes,
I'm
an
attorney
at
the
institute
for
justice,
we're
a
non-profit
public
interest
law
firm
that
works
to
protect
civil
liberties,
including
economic
liberty.
K
We
support
this
bill
because
it
will
cut
through
the
needless
red
tape
that
food
trucks
in
tennessee
currently
face.
Research
shows
that
a
vibrant
food
truck
scene
benefits
everyone.
Food
trucks
offer
accessible
opportunities
for
entrepreneurship;
they
also
create
jobs
and
enrich
the
communities
where
they
serve.
Food
trucks
also
support
a
vibrant
restaurant
scene.
Research
shows
a
positive
correlation
between
the
presence
of
food
trucks
in
a
community
and
more
restaurants,
not
less.
K
The
state's
multi-tiered
approach
to
food
truck
licensing
right
now
is,
unfortunately
creating
some
serious
barriers
to
having
a
food
truck
business.
This
bill
will
make
a
big
difference
for
food
trucks
by
allowing
them
to
operate
on
private
property
in
different
cities,
with
their
state
permits
without
having
to
navigate
complicated,
burdensome
and
often
redundant
permitting
requirements.
K
K
Economic
liberty
and
consumer
choice
I'd
lastly
like
to
note
that
some
states
have
successfully
streamlined
their
licensing
at
the
state
level
and
serve
as
examples
that
can
be
used
to
model
this
type
of
reform
where,
where
we're
seeing
regulations
streamline
to
make
it
easier
for
these
small
businesses
to
operate,
to
wrap
things
up,
reducing
unnecessary
licensing
barriers
for
food
trucks
is
an
important
way
that
the
state
can
safely
create
small,
create
these
create
new
opportunities,
support
these
small
businesses
and
stimulate
economic
growth.
We
encourage
the
committee
to
support
this
bill.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
Do
any
of
the
members
have
any
questions
for
them
while
we
are
out
of
session
okay,
seeing
none.
Thank
you
for
your
testimony,
appreciate
you
guys
being
up
here
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
Okay,
without
objection,
we
will
go
back
into
session
chairman
kirsty.
Are
you
recognized.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
committee.
I
just
sum
up
by
saying:
I'm
really
glad
that
it
was
boiled
down
to
brass
tax,
which
is
this.
Is
it's
a
money
grab?
You
know
these
businesses
are
already
taxed
and
already
regulated
as
the
as
the
two
witnesses
pointed
out,
and
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
make
sure
that
private
business
owners
and
private
property
owners
can
still
do
business
in
the
state,
and
I'm
reminded
of
ronald
reagan's
quote
about
government's
view
of
the
economy
could
be
summed
up
in
a
few
short
phrases.
A
Right,
thank
you.
So
for
the
members
we
are
voting
to
put
this
and
we're
not
voting
on
the
bill.
We
are
voting
on
the
amendment
amendment
zero
one,
four,
six,
five,
eight!
So
without
objection,
all
those
excuse
me
zero
one.
Four,
six,
five,
four
five!
Four,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
amendment
say
aye
aye
opposed
eyes.
Have
it.
Okay,
we
are
on
the
bill
as
amended.
My
understanding
is
chairman
is
withdrawing
amendment
zero,
one,
four,
seven,
zero,
zero!
A
B
Thank
you
chairman
and
members,
brother
dale,
carr,
representative
dale
carr
up
in
pigeon
forward.
Several
in
gatlinburg
is
asked
that
three,
these
three
cities
be
exempt
from
this
provision
of
this
legislation.
All
right.
D
You,
mr
chairman,
and
and
thank
you
to
my
good
friend
representative
cheryl,
and
I
appreciate
the
spirit
in
which
this
was
brought.
I
was
approached
by
a
member
of
the
lobbying
corps
that
represents
the
areas
that
that
you
referenced
there
pigeon
forged
veerville
and
gatlinburg,
and
what
was
explained
to
me.
The
heart
of
their
issue
is
that
they
have
a
local
prepared
food
tax,
similar
to
a
tourism
tax.
So
inside
that
municipality
those
localities,
they
have
an
additional
tax
on
these
food
trucks
that
helps
feed
their
costs
associated
with
tourism.
D
Nothing
in
this
bill
would
override
that,
so
those
local
taxes
would
still
stand.
We
drafted
that
way
intentionally
because
of
that
feedback
that
we
got,
we
did
try
to
listen
to
all
stakeholders.
That's
drafting
this.
So
again,
I
I
think
that's
the
spirit
in
which
those
communities
were
concerned-
and
we
drafted
this
specifically
to
try
to
address
that,
but
nothing
in
here
would
override
a
local
municipality's,
taxing
authority
similar
to
that
so.
B
Thank
you,
representative
corso,
and
thank
you
chairman,
as
I
said,
there's
representative
del
carr,
which
he
represents
at
her
and
he's
unable
to
be
with
us
because
of
having
some
surgery
on
his
leg.
But
as
he
has,
you
know,
contacted
me
and
asked
me
to
run
this
amendment
for
him
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
let.
A
B
Thank
you
chairman,
so
I
just
move
that
we
pass
this
amendment.
A
Okay,
seeing
none,
we
will
be
voting
on
amendment
zero,
one,
four,
one,
eight
five,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
opposed
no
eyes
have
it.
The
amendment
goes
on
the
bill.
Chairman
curcio.
You
are
recognized.
A
Okay,
the
question
has
been
called
on
the
bill.
A
L
You're
right,
thank
you
chairman
and
members.
I
I
am
behind,
so
I
know
I
have
two
bills
in
here.
I
was
just
paying
attention
to
that
vote
and
lost
my
mind.
L
Okay
thanks,
gentlemen.
Thank
you
chairman
members
house,
bill.
1686
is
a
bill
that
worked
on
for
a
couple
years
with
alzheimer's
tennessee.
It's
named
after
the
colonel
bowden,
which
resided
in
chairman
whitson's
district.
L
It
would
be
a
three-year
pilot
which
would
allow
a
fun
150
home,
a
150
individuals,
their
families
to
get
respite
care
at
home
for
three
or
four
hours
a
week.
I
do
have
an
amendment
that
was
traveling
with
the
amendment
they're
traveling
with
the
bill,
which
just
simply
puts
the
responsibility
for
destruct
distribution
of.
L
M
M
L
L
B
L
Recognized
my
apologies
chairman
members,
house
or
house
bill
two
four,
four,
seven.
L
Seeks
to
propose
to
change
the
self
physician
self-referral
law
in
1989,
the
united
states
enacted
the
federal
physician
self-referral
law,
commonly
known
as
the
stark
laws.
Stark
laws
prohibit
physicians
from
referring
patients
to
certain
entities
where
they
have
a
financial
relationship
with
that
entity
unless
a
certain
exemption
implies
and
that
the
pub
the
public
policy
concern
was
that
some
physicians
may
refer
their
patients
to
themselves
in
order
to
generate
additional
revenue
soon
after
the
law
was
passed
in
1989,
a
number
of
states
adopted
many
stark
laws.
L
These
laws
were
modeled
after
the
federal
statute
to
provide
state
medical
boards,
a
direct
pathway
for
disciplining
their
physicians,
while
eliminating
some
of
those
laws.
Tennessee
adopted
its
own
mini
stark
law
in
1993,
set
forth
in
title
63
chapter
six,
due
to
the
ever
evolving
nature
of
federal,
st
stark
law.
Several
states,
including
tennessee's
tennessee
and
neighboring
states,
virginia
and
kentucky,
have
adopted
or
added
provisions
to
their
state's
many
stark
laws
to
clarify
what
those
business
arrangements
could
be
and
should
be
based
upon
those
new
laws.
L
L
If
the
business
arrangement
is
permitted
under
the
federal
stark
law,
it
would
be
permitted
in
tennessee.
This
bill
would
eliminate
the
need
for
the
general
assembly
to
update
the
tennessee
mini
stark
law
every
time.
The
federal
statute
changes
and
this
bill
would
still
allow
for
the
tennessee
board
of
medical
examiners
to
discipline
unethical
physicians.
Self-Referrals
with
that,
mr
chairman
and
my
patient
members,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
A
Okay,
yeah:
okay,
no
questions.
Okay
with
without
objection,
we
will
be
voting
on
house
bill.
Two
four,
four,
seven,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
aye,
aye
opposed
eyes.
Have
it
bill,
goes
on
to
calendar
and
rolls
thank
you.
A
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
The
amendment
rewrites
the
bill
and
the
amendment
number
is
zero.
One,
four
zero,
six
four.
A
M
M
This
legislation
allows
telemedicine
to
be
utilized
by
advanced
practice,
registered
nurses
or
physician
assistants
instead
of
an
on-site
visit
by
physician
at
the
end
of
each
month
to
review
charts.
This
legislation
allows
physician
assistants
and
advanced
practice
registered
nurses
to
arrange
10
telemedicine
arrangements
and
two
on-site
visits
are
still
required
by
a
collaborating
physician.
M
Currently
pas
and
aprns
are
required
to
have
12
on-site
visits
by
a
collaborating
physician.
This
will
increase
the
collaboration
between
pas
aprns
during
the
month
to
promote
the
collaboration
between
pas
and
aprns
instead
of
waiting
to
the
end
of
the
month
to
review
the
patient
charts
and
we've
had
committee.
We've
had
many
discussions
with
the
aprns
doctors,
and
this
is
an
agreement
that
has
been
agreed
on
with
both
sides.
M
So
with
that,
mr
chairman,
I
move
passage.
A
Okay,
so
let's
get
the
amendment
on
the
bill
so
without
objection,
let's
vote
on
them
admit
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
opposed
eyes.
Have
it:
okay,
we're
back
on
the
bill
as
amended
questions
from
the
committee.
I
think
representative
smith,
you're
recognized.
A
Thank
you
any
further
questions
for
the
sponsor.
Okay,
seeing
none.
We
will
be
voting
on
house
bill
2537,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
opposed
eyes.
Have
it
bill
goes
on
to
calendar
and
rules
all
right.
That
brings
us
to
the
end
of
our
business
of
the
day,
seeing
no
further
business
before
us.
We
are
adjourned.