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House Local Government Committee- March 9, 2021
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A
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C
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
chairman
marsha.
I
am
needless
to
say,
thankful
for
this
bill
and
and
and
mr
chairman,
it's
interesting
exactly
what
this
litter
grant
program
does
for
our
state
and,
of
course,
in
fiscal
year,
2019
that
litter
grant
distribution
was
over
five
million
dollars,
keeping
in
mind.
It
was
for
county
pickup,
county
education
and
certainly
outreach
and
the
numbers
from
2018
what
this
is,
what
it
means
to
my
district
as
far
as
houston
county
was
forty
four
thousand
two
hundred
dollars.
D
C
You're
recognized
there's
six
to
eight
million
is
collected
each
year
to
fund
this
grant
and
forty
four
thousand
to
two
hundred
sixty
nine
thousand
go
to
the
counties
since
inception,
23
million
pounds
of
litter
has
been
picked
up,
so
this
is
a
great
program
and
we
and
tdot
has
received
many
national
awards
over
the
life
of
the
program.
For
for
what
they've
done
so.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chairman
for
bringing
the
bill.
Thank
you,
representative
shaw,
for
allowing
our
members
to
speak.
There
has
been
a
question
called
on
the
bill,
so
we're
ready
to
vote
all
those
in
favor
of
house,
bill,
53,
say
aye.
Those
opposed
bill
moves
on
to
finance
ways
and
means.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
members.
Our
second
bill
we
have
today
is
1127
by
chairman
farmer
that
has
been
rolled
one
week
without
a
protection.
A
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee
members,
who
serve
on
local
industrial
development
boards
play
a
role
in
award
of
various
industrial
contracts.
There
is
no
consistent
method
for
them
to
declare
any
conflicts
of
interest.
It's
done
in
apache
manner.
This
bill
will
make
it
a
create
uniform,
statewide
method
of
the
members
who
serve
on
these
industrial
development
boards
to
be
able
to
declare
their
conflicts
of
interest
if
direct
and
indirect,
if
any
exist.
E
A
I'm
number
five
house
bill
1511
by
representative
hasting.
This
is
a
local
bill.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
bill,
proper
form,
representative
hastings.
Do
you
have
a
resolution,
a
two-thirds
vote
that
you've
turned
in
from
this?
Yes,
okay
and
you're,
recognized
on
your
bill,
sir.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,.
E
This
bill
came
from
me
from
the
county
mayor
in
henderson
county
and
the
county
commissioners,
this
bill,
just
as
a
private
act
that
changes
their
hotel,
motel
tax
from
five
percent
to
seven
percent,
and
also
it
puts
the
proceeds
going.
35
of
the
proceeds
would
go
towards
using
the
purchase
of
new
equipment
for
the
henderson
county
fire
department,
20
of
the
proceeds
to
be
designated
for
tourism,
20
for
industrial
development
fund
and
25
expenses
for
towards
the
henderson
county
jail.
A
A
If
you
wanted
to
be
recorded
as
a
no,
please
see
the
clerk
representative
hastings,
your
bill
moves
on
to
calendar
and
rules.
A
F
A
That
is
correct,
that
is
the
draft
code.
Is
there
a
motion
on
the
amendment
proper
motion,
proper
second
representative,
you're,
recognized
on
your
amendment.
F
Great,
thank
you
chairman.
Basically
members.
What
this
bill
does.
It
prohibits
a
local
beer
board
and
the
abc
from
imposing
reciprocal
fines
or
penalties
on
a
licensee
or
permittee,
based
solely
on
the
fact
that
another
respective
entity
provided
that
notice
we
haven't,
we
have
an
amended
version
of
this
bill.
This
this
amendment
makes
the
bill
that
if
the
notice
cites
the
establishment
as
a
public
nuisance,
either
entity
may
find
or
suspend
based
on
the
notice
until
an
expedited
hearing
can
be
held.
F
Mr
chairman,
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
go
into
detail
of
the
amendment
and
the
bill.
If
the
members
want
to
hear
about
it.
So
thank.
A
You,
sir,
we
do
have
a
proper
motion
in
second
on
drafting
code
4478
to
be
placed
on
the
bill.
All
those
in
favor
of
the
amendment
please
say
aye
those
opposed.
No.
The
amendment
is
now
on
the
bill.
Representative
jernigan,
your
rep
you're,
recognized
on
house
bill.
182
is
amended.
F
Thank
you
and
I'll,
just
give
a
brief.
I
told
you
what
the
amendment
does
makes
the
bill,
but
I
have
a
a
local
restaurant,
a
steakhouse
in
my
district
owned
by
a
single
mother
and
and
then
basically
what
happened.
The
abc
did
a
sting
and
her
serves
someone
under
age
and
they
hit
her
with
a
1500
fine
and
they
should
that's
what
happened
about
three
and
she
fired
the
bartender,
but
about
three
weeks
later
she
got
another
fine
in
the
mail
or
fifteen
hundred
dollars
from
the
beer
board.
F
F
Did
their
sting
they're
required
by
law
to
send
the
beer
board
a
notice?
I
think
that's
good.
They
should
have
a
notice
of
what's
going
on
in
their
area,
but
they
should
also
do
their
own
investigation
and
we're
kind
of
helping
people
to
stay
in
their
own
lanes.
But
I
do
understand
that
it
could
be
circumstances
of
bad
actors.
So
the
compromise
said
that
we
can
create
a
public
nuisance.
F
A
A
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you
committee
house,
bill.
701
is
a
private
act
for
the
franklin
special
school
district
of
williamson
county.
It
will
authorize
the
franklin
special
school
district
to
issue
and
sell
school
bonds,
not
to
seed
45
million.
This
measure
was
approved
by
the
franklin
special
school
board
of
education
on
9
november
2020.
We
have.
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A
A
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
bill
makes
two
changes
to
the
town
of
troy's
charter.
It
removes
it
changes
the
number
of
readings
from
three
down
to
two
before
an
ordinance
change,
and
it
also
establishes
a
position
and
hiring
process
for
a
city
administrator.
A
A
B
B
You,
mr
chairman,
ultimately
this
this
has
three
changes.
B
It
allows
non-resident
property
owners
to
vote
in
the
municipal
elections
and
the
second
it
allows
the
board
member
another
board
member
other
than
the
mayor
and
vice
mayor
to
authorize
pay
warrants
ultimately,
just
to
ultimately
just
in
case
there's
not
enough
people
there
in
town
to
pay
the
bills,
because
this
is
a
small
town.
They
want
to
have
another
person
on
the
on
the
checkbook
and
the
third.
B
C
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
yes,
sir.
What,
ultimately,
if
you
own
property
inside
the
city
limits
you're
allowed
to
and
you
do
not
live
in
the
city
limits,
you
would
be
allowed
to
vote
in
a
municipal
election
for
this
town,
the
town
of
sandburg.
C
C
C
G
So
I
think
I
understand
what
you're
doing
if
someone
owns
property
in
this
city
well,
they've
got
an
interest
in
how
the
city
is
run,
but
do
they
say
they
live
out
of
state?
Even
do
they
have
to
be
registered
to
vote
in
that
county
in
that
city,
say
I'm
in
shelby
county
your
county.
Do
I
end
up
being
registered
to
vote
in
two
counties?
G
This
seems
problematic
and
I
understand
a
election
because
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
vote
twice,
but
if
they're
registered
in
your
county
and
my
county,
how
do
they
keep
up
with
that
when
it
comes
to
a
presidential
election
and
if
it's
all
on
one
ballot,
yeah
it's
a
municipal
election,
but
in
some
jurisdictions
you
can
vote
for
city
and
county
elections
the
same
cycle?
You
might
have
a
state
primary
the
same
cycle.
G
So
I'm
just
wondering
how
do
you
make
sure
I'm
voting
for
my
state
senator
in
his
primary
in
august
in
shelby
county,
and
I'm
only
voting
in
your
municipal
election?
I
understand
what
you're
doing
and
I
support
it,
but
you
know
I
do
have
some
trouble,
especially
after
last
year.
I
would
like
some
clarity
to
make
sure.
H
I
think
not
money
from
legal.
I
think
the
county
election
commission
would
have
to
be
responsible
for
maintaining.
You
know
accurate
records
of
who
owns
property
once
this
passes
in
the
city.
That's
not
a
resident
of
the
city
so
long
as
they're,
a
citizen
of
the
state
and
they're
of
age
to
vote
and
their
names
actually
recorded
on
a
deed
within
the
jurisdiction
and
as
far
as,
but
this
is
municipal
only
so
it
would
they.
They
would
have
to
have
a
mechanism
for
separating
that.
H
G
So
it
would
be
solely
the
city's
responsibility
and
they
would
not
be
registered
to
vote
with
the
county
where
they
owned
the
property.
It
would
be
so
say
I
live
in
shelby
I
own
property.
In
david,
I
would
not
be
registered
to
vote
with
both
counties
davidson
being
much.
That's,
probably
not
a
mcnary
county
sellmer.
G
C
G
Oh,
no,
no
and
it
shouldn't,
but
I
would
be
registered
with
shelby
to
vote
in
shelby
county,
correct,
mcnairy
county.
I
would
not
be
registered
to
vote
with
mcnairy
county,
but
the
city
of
selmer
within
mcnary
county.
It
would
be
their
responsibility
to
keep
up
with
the
fact
that
I
was
a
property
owner
and
I
could
vote
in
their
city
election.
H
You
couldn't
vote,
you
couldn't
vote
in
the
county
which
selma
was
is
located.
Mcnary
mcnairy,
I
don't
know
all
95
of
them
exactly,
but
but
I
think
the
county
election
commission
keeps
up
with
the
voter
rolls
for
the
city
and
the
incorporation,
incorporated
cities
and
the
counties,
but
they
would
probably
be
responsible
for
keeping
up
with
the
municipal
voting.
G
A
C
C
H
Recognized
it
would
be
if
you
lived
in
the
city
of
samberg.
This
is
for
sandberg's
charter.
So
if
hardiman
had
the
same
provision
that
allowed
a
proper
an
owner
of
a
parcel
of
property
who
didn't
live
in
the
city
limits
to
vote
in
municipal
elections,
then
you
would
be
able
to
vote
in
municipal
elections
in
that
city.
C
A
Okay,
let
me
set
the
stage
remember
this
is
a
local
bill.
It's
only
affecting
his
county.
If
you
want
to
do
what
this
bill
does,
you
will
have
to
bring
another
bill?
I
have
several
people
on
the
list
is
any
of
the
people
that
have
asked
to
speak
need
legal,
seeing
none
we'll
go
back
into
second
sec
session.
I
Representative
grills,
I
appreciate
this
bill.
I
wish
my
local
community
would
do
it.
You
can
pay
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
in
property
taxes
in
a
city
of
which
you
have
no
representation.
I
I
think
there
was
a
british
government
did
this
one
time,
but
I
I
think
if
your
locals
are
sending
resolution
saying
they
want
to
do
this
and
the
proper
taxpayers
have
a
right
to
be
able
to
their
voice
to
be
heard,
as
it
relates
to
the
the
monies
that
they're
spending
in
property
taxes,
all
you
simply
do
is
go
to
register
as
a
non-resident
voter
in
that
city
for
their
it's
pretty
simple.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
the
bill
and
educating
us
today.
Thank
you,
representative
grills.
You
recognize.
A
A
Representative
coffey
you're
recognized.
Thank
you,
mr.
J
J
This
will
give
people
who
live
outside
the
city
limits
known
businesses
or
rental
property,
or
whatever
a
right
to
have
representation
on
tax
issues
and
such
I
just
hope
it
don't
get
out
of
hand.
Like
happened
in
one
of
my
towns
about
40
years
ago,
a
guy
had
a
lot
and
he
divided
up
in
181
square
foot
tracks
and
got
all
kinds
come
in
people
from
out
of
the
city
to
vote
for
him.
So
there's
a
you,
gotta
be
weary
on
that,
but
it's
a
great
bill.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr.
B
A
A
B
You,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
committee
house,
bill
1366
men's
the
littlesburg
charter.
I
think
there's
three
amendments
here
and
I'll.
Read
them
right,
quick
to
you.
The
first
one
adds
councilman
adds
that
council
members
cannot
hold
elected
offices
in
the
city
and
the
county.
At
the
same
time.
B
The
second
amendment
changes
ordinance
from
pre-readings
to
two
readings,
and
the
third
amendment
adds
two
members
to
the
budget
committee,
the
mayor
and
an
appointee
from
the
mayor.
A
B
A
K
This
legislation
did
you
recall
we
had
a
very
popular
piece
of
legislation
that
was
a
very
bipartisan
that
passed
in
2017.
The
freedom
of
speech
act
that
freedom
of
speech
act,
guarantee
that
our
signs
campaign
signs
could
not
be
restricted
to
a
certain
number
on
your
personal
property,
such
as
in
front
of
your
home.
It
had
minimum
square
footage,
etcetera
and
all
that
was
very
popular.
K
C
Sexton,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Just
for
my
own
benefit
does
this
this
past
legislation,
and
even
this
does
it.
K
Any
property
that
you
own
or
are
there
the
this
sudden?
This
doesn't
change
anything.
The
existing
legislation
is
already
in
place
if
you're
in
an
hoa
and
which
you
own
and
maintain
the
property
yourself,
not
common
areas
or
even
mow
the
lawn
in
front
of
your
condo.
K
But
if
you
have
a
right
to
put
it
in
your
window
or
on
your
door
or
in
a
fenced
in
area
that
you
own
and
maintain
yourself,
you
can
put
your
signs
up.
There
are,
there
are
certain
size
require
limits,
and
all
that
and
the
hoa
can
go
above
that
if
they
wish,
but
it
doesn't
infringe
on
hoa
property.
C
K
Maintain
the
property
the
home
owner
can
actually
put
a
sign
and
they're
on
their
property
like
in
a
window
or
our
door.
Now
this
only
affects
hoas,
because
those
are
private
agreements
going
forward
from
2017.
Those
in
the
past
were
private
agreement.
We
came
to
change
a
private
agreement.
That's
been
ruled
unconstitutional
by
the
supreme
court.
B
K
K
July,
first
of
two
I
believe
july,
first
until
2017,
I
believe
thank
you
now
if
they
amend
their
charters,
you
have
to
adapt
the
new
rules
or,
if
it's
a
new
development
they
have
to
and
again
this
doesn't
change
that
that's
already
in
place.
A
K
That
is
correct
because
right
now,
general
elections,
technically
speaking,
is
really
any
election,
but
it's
most
locals.
Consider
it
to
be
a
general
city
election,
a
general
county
election,
the
only
one
where
there
was
some
question
and
legal
says
originally
that
it
was
it's
questionable,
but
it
technically
may
not.
Cover
may
not
cover
primaries
right
now,
so
it
would
extend
the
coverage
to
primary
elections
for
everyone
to
be
able
to
put
their
signs
up
in
their
own
yards.
H
Out
of
session
sorry,
I
don't
belabor
the
point
too
much.
We
talked
a
lot
about
this
with
the
sponsor,
but
chairman
moon
you'd
asked
whether
we're
adding
general
we're
actually
removing
the
word
general
just
to
be
clear,
so
that
we're
expanding
it
to
all
elections
at
the
state
and
local
levels
as
it
applies
under
the
freedom
of
speech
act
which
has
two
moving
components.
H
State
and
locals.
Cannot,
you
know,
regulate
signs
outside
of
that
hundred
foot
barrier
from
polling
places,
so
you
can
put
your
signs
outside
of
that
hundred
foot
range
and
this
would
apply
to
all
elections,
and
then
it
also
applies
to
the
hoas
from
januar
july
1
2017
moving
forward
so
that
people
could
put
signs
for
their
officials
or
their
people
that
are
running
for
office
that
they
want
to
support
or
for
issues
that
they're
in
support
of
for
all
elections,
not
just
general
elections.
So
we're
just
deleting
the
word
general.
A
Thank
you
any
more
questions
for
legal,
saying,
none
or
back
into
session
any
more
questions
for
chairman
rudd
on
house
bill,
500
questions
being
called
we're
ready
to
vote
all
those
in
favor
of
moving
house
bill,
500
onto
calendar
rules,
please
say:
aye
those
opposed!
No
chairman
rudd.
Your
bill.
Moves
on
to
calendar
and
rules,
item
number
15
house
bill
501
by
chairman
rudd.
Do
I
have
a
motion
got
a
proper
motion
seconded
chairman
rudd
you're
recognized
on
house
bill
501.
K
K
What
this
does
is
very
simply.
This
is
the
legislation
that
eliminated
the
un,
the
cumbersome,
pre-primary
and
pre-general
election
and
election
year.
We
were
having
a
report
six
times,
instead
of
just
quarterly,
so
that
eliminates
those
two
and
also
popular
with
full
transparency,
that
all
contributions
are
to
be
reported
on
your
disclosures,
regardless
of
the
amount,
so
that
there's
full
transparency
for
everyone
and
that's
what
the
two
things
did
last
time
and
it's
unchanged
from
last
year.
E
We
really
appreciate
your
hard
work
and
bringing
this
bill
before
us,
but
I
think
in
a
lot
of
what
we
got
going
on
right
now
with
the
house
of
representatives
and
auditing
bad
on
this,
and
you
know,
I
don't
think
we
need
to
change
structure
currently,
because
we've
got
might
confuse
the
issues
a
little
bit.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you,
chairman.
A
A
M
You,
mr
chairman
committee,
this
house
bill
327.
When
I
presented
in
the
subcommittee,
I
said
we
are
in
an
era
of
changing
technology
and
I
started
top
of
the
build
red
down
today.
I'm
going
to
say
we
are
in
an
era
of
changing
technology,
I'm
going
to
start
at
the
bottom
of
the
bill
and
work
up,
because
the
most
important
thing
in
this
bill
is
the
last.
M
M
M
If
the
commissioner
is
required
to
be
out
of
county
on
his
job
or
her
job
or
there's
a
medical
necessity,
but
we,
the
state
legislator,
not
saying
what
the
medical
necessity
might
be,
that
is
to
be
determined
by
the
county
legislative
body
and
the
third
thing,
a
reason
a
member
may
ask
to
be
permitted
to
attend
electronically
is
because
they're
in
the
military,
and
with
that,
mr
chairman,
I
stand
for
questions.
Thank.
A
I
Chairman
wright,
I
appreciate
your
intent
for
the
bill.
I
know
you
being
a
former
county
commissioner.
This
is
important
to
you.
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
anytime.
We
continue
to.
I
know
technology
is
changing.
I
know
your
bill
does
make
exception
for
military
service,
of
which
we
want
to
do
anything.
We
can
do
to
support
our
military
service,
but
if
it's
based
on
why
the
way
I
read
it,
if
it's
narrowly
drafted,
where
you
can
only
do
two
meetings,
does
that
include
subcommittee
meetings
or
monthly
meetings?
For
instance?
Could
you
miss?
I
I
So
I
guess,
if,
if
you're
narrow,
narrowly
narrowly,
that's
a
word
limiting
the
number
of
times
you
can
miss
and
you're
restricting
it
to
only
those.
I
guess
what
would
be
the
reason
for
medically
necessary
or
because
that
seems
like
it's
open
to
interpretation.
Can
you
exceed
the
two
based
upon
the
the
statute
or
the
bill?
Can
you
exceed
the
two
if
it's
a
medical
necessity.
D
And,
of
course
I've
got
a
family
member,
that's
a
county
commissioner,
and
it's
at
times
she
can't
make
all
of
the
meetings,
but
then
there's
a
lot
of
during
this
shutdown
from
constituents
who
fuss
at
that
county
because
they
don't
have
the
transparency
of
seeing
what's
going
on
and
it's
I'm
of
the
opinion.
It's
it's
not
audio
doesn't
work
all
the
time.
Video
doesn't
work
all
the
time
for
those
folks
to
to
remotely
access,
especially
when
we're
talking
about
military
service
members.
D
They
should
be
excused
when
they're
called
to
duty
and
of
course
it's
to
me,
it's
important
that
they
need
to
keep
their
mind
in
the
game
when
it
comes
to
military
service,
but
still
getting
back
to
the
subject.
Matter
of
I
understand
it's
just
two
meetings,
but
I
think
it's,
the
old
adage,
the
the
noses
of
the
camel
is
under
the
tent
and
some
of
our
our
counties.
D
I
there's
that
thin
line
that
we
need
to
expect
of
them
for
running
local
government,
just
like
we
run
here
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
and
I
never
see
or
would
see
this
body
deciding
to
to
be
on
the
house
floor
remotely
having
the
conversation
or
even
the
opportunity
to
vote.
So
it
doesn't
cover
you
know,
can
a
commissioner
vote
remotely
in
this
particular
bill
these
these
two
times?
D
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
guess
I
have
a
question
for
legal.
If
we
could
go
out
of
session
and
ask
a
question
for
legal,
would.
A
It
be
all
right
if
we
get
we've
got
a
couple
more
questions.
Surely.
O
L
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
that
question
addressed
to
the
local
legislative
body
as
it
forms
its
policy
as
I've
stated
a
moment
ago.
All
of
what's
being
undertaken
by
this
bill
is
to
allow
the
same
policy
that
may
currently
exist
for
municipalities
to
become
existent
county
legislative
bodies.
So
how
can
you
see
them?
M
Excuse
me,
how
does
zoom
work,
I
shouldn't
say
trademarked
things,
but
how
the
meeting
would
be
conducted,
except
that
the
chair
has
to
validate
and
verify
by
sight
over
the
electronic
communication
what's
taking
place.
The
question
that
you
just
raised
is
up
to
the
local
legislative
body
follow-up
level.
I
think.
L
Mr
chairman
yeah,
and
that's
what
that's
that's
my
concern.
For
example,
if
a
member
of
the
metropolitan
council
here
in
nashville
is
unable
to
be
at
the
meeting
and
they
are
going
to
be
participating
electronically,.
L
For
me,
that's
what
caused
some
difficulty,
because
the
general
poke
may
show
up
physically
then
this
member
is
there
electronically
and
there
may
not
be
means
put
in
place
in
the
physical
location
for
members
to
interact
with
that
that
person.
You
know
whether
it's
public
comment
period.
L
M
L
And
I
think
that
that's
where
we
sometimes
get
into
the
nuance
of
language
when
we
use
shall
versus
may
it
then
becomes
less
permissive
with
shall
may
is
permissive.
L
M
C
Thank
you
chairman
to
the
sponsor
at
these.
At
these
meetings
there
a
member
does
not
show
up
to.
I
think
the
question
was
asked
earlier:
will
they
be
able
to
vote
at
the
at
these
meetings?
Representative.
A
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
My
question
is:
if,
if,
if
the
state,
if
we
pass
this
law,.
H
H
H
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Again,
municipalities
already
have
this
it's
in
a
different
title
as
being
stated
there.
This
is
this
title
for
legislative
bodies,
a
different
title
and
then
one
other
thing
the
municipalities
can
already
do
it.
Boards
of
education
can
also
already
have
electronic
meetings
and
that's
where
all
the
money's
being
spent
anyway.
So
all
the
questions
are
being
raised
about
how
do
county
commissions
work
you're
already
allowing
it
on
where
all
the
money's
being
spent.
A
I
can't
do
that
yet
representative
shaw:
we
have
several
guests
with
us
today
that
would
like
to
speak
on
this.
They
did
meet
the
24-hour
deadline,
so
we
are
going
to
recognize
so
without
objection.
We
will
go
out
of
session
to
hear
from
our
speakers.
P
We
favored
electronic
meetings
because
we
didn't
want
government
to
shut
down
this
bill
would
extend
electronic
participation
voting
by
phone
to
county
legislative
body
members
limits
they
can
do
it
only
twice
a
year.
There
are
actually
four
reasons:
family
emergency,
medical
emergency
out
of
the
county
for
work
military
service.
P
However,
this
bill
is
different
than
the
governor's
executive
order
that
has
allowed
the
electronic
meeting
this.
The
governor's
executive
order
had
protections
in
there
for
the
public
so
that
they
would
be
able
to
hear
what
was
going
on.
They
would
actually
get
to
know
how
people
who
were
participating
electronically
would
vote
this
bill
does
not
have
those
protections.
P
It's
an
exemption
to
all
11
parts
of
the
open
meetings
act
in
that
where
it
conflicts
with
that
the
legislation
here
would
rule.
So
we
have
concerns
that
the
public
would
not
be
able
to
hear
and
understand.
Particularly
this
applies
to
county
legislative
bodies,
some
of
which
have
25
members.
So
a
physical
quorum
is,
you
could
have
a
dozen
people
technically
on
the
phone
at
any
given
time.
P
That
may
be
unlikely,
but
I
don't
think
it
would
be
completely
unlikely
that
you
would
have
three
or
four
people
calling
in
and
voting
by
phone
and
deliberating
and
participating.
That
is
hard
for
the
public
to
follow.
It
applies
to
county
legislative
bodies,
so
my
understanding,
at
least
from
legal
and
the
previous
subcommittee
meetings.
That
would
also
apply
to
metro
davidson,
which
has
40
members,
so
a
physical
quorum.
There
is
21,
so
you
could
have
19
people
eligible
under
this
bill.
P
You
cannot
opt
out
a
county
legislative
committee,
but
you
cannot
opt
out
from
the
requirements
of
this
statute.
They
could
develop
policy
defining
what
family
emergency
is
or
or
medical
emergency,
but
they
cannot
opt
out.
This
gives
the
right
for
members
to
vote
by
phone
in
the
county,
legislative
body,
the
most
important
body
in
a
county
government
and
local
government,
so
we're
concerned
with
this
bill.
A
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
members.
My
name
is
jeremy
mansfield
and
I'm
a
district
11
sumner
county
commissioner.
Q
Q
We
should
not
arbitrarily
handle
something
as
important
as
open
meetings
on
a
county-by-county
basis.
Would
you
do
the
same
for
voter
id
requirements,
gun
laws,
seat
belt
laws?
I
don't
think
you
would
when
government
trust
is
at
an
all-time
low.
Government
transparency
should
be
at
an
all-time
high,
it
should
be
uniform
and
it
should
be
standardized.
Q
We
knew
meaning
county
commissioners,
other
elected
officials.
You
know
what
you
sign
up
for
when
you
run
for
your
seat.
You
know
the
commitment
there
should
never
under
any
circumstances,
be
exemptions
from
meeting
in
person
as
a
county
commissioner
or
any
other
elected
official
in
the
state
of
tennessee.
In
my
opinion,
suppose,
a
commissioner
cannot
fulfill
his
or
her
duties
by
meeting
in
person
for
an
extended
amount
of
time,
such
as
sickness
or
military
leave
or
other
things.
Q
Q
Q
A
J
My
name
is
richard
hoffman.
I
live
in
davidson
county
tennessee,
I'm
just
an
average
for
the
last
year
now,
since
march,
metro
davidson
county
has
been
operating
under
the
executive
orders
by
the
governor
within
those
executive
orders.
There
were
certain
requirements
by
local
governments
to
conduct
these
electronic
meetings
for
a
year.
Now.
J
J
M
M
M
M
A
Thank
you
chairman.
I'm
going
to
take
a
a
a
moment
of
personal
privilege
here
reading
in
the
bill,
if
it'll
help
any
of
the
committee
members
in
in
your
vote,
whichever
way
you
vote,
but
in
this
bill
it
does
require
them
to
establish
a
quorum
within
the
county
commission
chamber
or
wherever
they
meet.
A
I
Had
they
public
caring
in
order
to
do
it,
so
I
think
it's
a,
I
think
it's
kind
of
it
cuts
both
ways,
but
I
I
appreciate
chairman
wright's
diligence
and
service
to
his
community
for
all
those
years
as
chairman,
and
vice
chairman,
I
think,
he's
done
a
fantastic
job
and
I'm
thankful
that
he's
here
I
just
I
just
have
some
serious
concerns
about
it.
Thank
you,
chairman.
A
Thank
you
without
objection,
okay,
representative,
again,
leatherwood
you're
recognized.
G
Had
a
question,
it
says
that
the
slave
body
shall
develop
a
policy
for
conducting
meetings
with
electronic
participation.
Reading
over
this,
it
seems
to
me
that
this
sets
a
minimum
guidelines
for
this.
Is
there
anything
keeping
the
legislative
body
from
making
a
policy
more
restrictive
than
this
chairman
and
an
example
being
excuse
me,
the
legislative
body
is
saying
that
these
other
guidelines
that
you
put
in
there
as
a
minimum
only
go
into
effect
during
a
pandemic.
M
Okay,
I
think
you
asked
two
questions
and
one
I
want
to
erase
from
the
the
situation
the
word
pandemic.
I
believe
the
pandemic
has
revealed
to
us
that
technology
is
out
there
now,
then
some
would
get
on
the
side
of
the
fence
of
what
is
the
restriction
here,
the
restriction
about?
Well,
you
can
only
exercise
it
twice
a
year.
I
guess
that
one,
the.
M
M
That
means
those
folk
are
represented
if
the
chairman
can
see
them
and
validate
them
to
be
on
the
video
link.
This
is
not
vote
by
phone.
This
is
electronic
meeting
changes.
No
other
rules
doesn't
avoid
sunshine,
doesn't
avoid
proper
notice,
doesn't
avoid
a
quorum
in
the
building,
doesn't
avoid
anything
it
just
allows
people
to
represent
who
voted
for
them.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Under
section
1
a
says,
one
of
the
reasons
obviously
is
as
you've
mentioned.
The
commissioner
is
required
to
be
out
of
the
county
for
commissioner's
work.
Can
you
define
commissioner's
work
for
me.
M
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
see
the
intent
of
the
legislation
I
used
to
serve
on
the
county
commission
as
well
in
my
county,
and
I
the
only
thing
that
concerns
me
here.
I
see
the
advantages.
The
only
thing
that
concerns
me
here
is:
is
this
a
stepping
stone
to
where
we
expand
in
the
future
this
and
it
becomes
more
of
an
issue
than
it
has
here
in
this
committee.
N
M
M
M
M
C
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Thank
you,
leader
gann.
I
just
want
to
follow
up
with
your
question.
I
had
some
time
to
research
the
question
as
to
the
application
it.
It
would
not
just
be
to
count
the
counties
without
charters,
it'd
be
statewide,
so
it
would
capture
without
some
kind
of
language
clarifying
it
would
apply
to
all
95
counties,
at
least
that's
what
we
believe
after
I've
had
a
chance
to
correspond
with
some
of
my
colleagues
upstairs.
H
They
could
be
and
their
policy
you
could
have
90
95
different
policies
per
county
depending
on
what
they
adopted.
So.
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A
Got
a
proper
motion
on
house
bill.
657
representative
baum
you're
recognized
on
the
bill.
O
Thank
you
chairman
crawford.
This
is
a
23
section
bill
that
does
various
things
to
update
and
modernize
parts
of
the
local
government
government
finance
code.
I'm
carrying
this
on
behalf
of
the
comptroller
to
a
few
examples
of
the
kinds
of
things
this
bill
does.
First
of
all,
it
modernizes
various
terms
and
eliminates
outdated
terms
like
sanitarium,
and
it
eliminates
provisions
that
have
sunset
as
a
second
example.
It
simplifies
different
borrowing
procedures
that
are
currently
unfriendly
or
burdensome,
for
example,
in
statutes.
O
This
bill
would
allow
that
capital
outlay
note
to
be
issued
one
time
for
12
years
without
having
to
go
in
front
of
the
comptroller
for
three
reviews
as
a
third
example,
this
bill
would
increase
transparency
currently
for
long-term
capital
projects.
We
have
some
local
governments
that
are
issuing
short-term
capital
outlay
notes
in
order
to
avoid
a
referendum.
Here's
how
that
occurs.
O
If
the
county
government
were
to
issue
long-term
bonds
to
fund
a
long-term
capital
project,
voters
would
have
the
option
of
petitioning
for
a
referendum
on
that,
but
by
issuing
a
short,
a
shorter
term
capital
outlay
note
and
then
converting
that
to
a
long-term
bond.
The
local
governments
are
avoiding
these
kinds
of
referendums
in
order
to
increase
transparency.
O
This
bill
makes
it
clear
that
the
appropriate
way
to
finance
these
long-term
capital
projects
is
with
a
long-term
bond
or
with
a
bond
anticipation,
note
and
then,
as
a
fourth
and
final
example
of
the
kinds
of
things
in
this
bill.
The
bill
makes
it
clear
that
variable
rate
revenue
bonds
can
be
converted
for
fixed
rate
revenue
bonds,
and
this
is
of
benefit
to
our
citizens
because
establish
converting
to
a
fixed
rate
insures
against
risk.
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Wanted
she
is
very,
very
important
to
this
committee
and
she
is
part
of
a
a
team
that
I
work
with
on
a
weekly
basis
and
she's
went
through
a
lot
in
the
last
few
weeks
by
losing
her
husband
and
being
involved
in
a
major
car
accident,
and
I
just
thank
the
lord
that
she's
with
us
today.
So
it's
good
to
have
her
back.
So
just
wanted
to
say
that.
Is
there
any
announcements
or
personal
orders
from
the
committee,
seeing
none
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn
so.