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House Elections & Campaign Finance Subcommittee - March 31, 2021 - House Hearing Room 2
A
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
personal
orders
before
we
begin
seeing
none?
We
may
we
have
several
bills.
Today
several
have
been
rolled
the
following
bills.
The
request
of
the
sponsors
have
been
rolled
one
week,
hb
20,
which
is
item
number
one
hb
1201
by
speaker,
sexton
road
one
week,
hb
1157,
but
representative
stewart
rode
one
week.
A
A
A
He
is
not
here
we'll
row
that
to
the
bottom
of
today's
calendar
and
next
will
be
hbo
966,
but
representative
carringer.
A
C
Thank
you
so
much
mighty
good
pilot
program
that
I
bring
before
this
committee
today
and
I
know
you're
just
gonna
shout
when
I
tell
you
about
it
this
pilot
program.
Of
course
this
is
this
originated
from
senator
gilmore
and
she
asked
me
to
to
carry
it
on
this
side
and
what
it
would
do
is
it
would
allow,
in
short
terms
and
I'll,
explain
it
in
full
time.
It's
as
no.
C
This
includes
the
people
who
are
currently
detained
in
county
jails,
most
of
whom
either
have
not
been
convicted
of
any
crime
or
are
serving
time
for
misdemeanor
convictions.
While
all
such
individuals
are
eligible
to
vote,
jails
do
not
currently
afford
them
the
opportunity
to
vote
or
to
register
to
vote
in
the
first
place.
As
a
result,
thousands
of
eligible
tennessee
voters
that
are
detained
in
county
jails
are
effectively
stripped
of
their
legal
and
constitutional
rights
to
vote.
C
A
I
would
I've
seen
seeing
no
objections,
I'll
agree
to
roll
and
and
then
we
can
also
ask
some
questions
since
we've
got
some
time.
Waiting
on
members
to
get
here
is
seeing
no
objections,
we'll
roll
for
one
week
and
while
we're
here
and
also
we
have
director
of
elections
goings
here
if
we
need
him,
but
I
I
think
the
one
of
the
things
that's
been
expressed
to
me
or
discussed
or
asked
a
question
that
I
couldn't
really
answer
is:
aren't
we
already
doing
most
of
this?
C
D
Yes,
I
mean,
and
if
we
know
amendments
come
and
amendment
can
rewrite
the
whole
bill.
C
I
would
I
would
be
satisfied
with
that.
Okay.
A
Okay,
well
we'll
we'll
discuss
in
depth
after
the
amendments
here,
because
it
could
rewrite
the
bill.
We
don't
know
what
they've
done
and
then
we
can
ask
some
testimony.
Then.
Thank
you.
We'll
move
on
now
to
the
next
bill.
Item
number
nine
hb
1178
by
chairman
crawford.
D
D
Thank
you,
sir.
What
this
bill
is
is
house
bill
1178.
This
is
dealing
with
convenient
voting
centers.
D
D
Let's
say
we
combine
it
into
10
different
voting
centers
that
keeps
people
from
having
to
go
to
a
specific
precinct.
If
they
live
within
the
voting
county,
then
they
can
come
to
one
of
the
convenience
centers.
It's
really
worked
out
really
well
for
the
pilot
program
that
we
had
in
place.
That
date
is
coming
up
on
sunset,
so
we're
asking
that
this
be
renewed
and
as
renewing
it,
we're
going
to
also
include
sumner,
county
sullivan,
county
and
wheatley
county.
Is
that
in
your.
A
A
All
those
are
seeing.
None
all
those
in
favor
of
putting
the
amendment
on
the
bill
say:
aye,
nay,
aye,
scary.
The
amendment
is
on
the
bill
any
further
info,
any
further
questions
on
the
amended
bill,
and
I
think
this
is
permissive,
as
you
said
so.
Yes,
I
renew
my
motion
all
right.
Any
objections
to
the
question,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
hb
1178
as
amended,
say:
aye,
nay,
seeing
none.
It
passes
on
to
local
fool
and
I
believe
I
saw
representative
carringer.
She
is
in
the
room
well.
A
Well,
I
hear
a
motion
second
on
hb
0966
and
I
believe
there
is
an
amendment
on
there.
This
is
an
untimely
amendment
that
was
filed
this
morning,
it's
important
to
the
bill,
so
we
would
have
to
have
a
motion
second
to
accept
an
untimely
amendment,
any
objections,
all
those
in
favor
of
accepting
the
amendment.
So
what
is
it?
Six?
Four
three
four.
A
E
A
We're
considering
the
amendment
now,
six,
four,
three
four
and
you're
not
running
five,
nine,
eight,
eight,
that's
correct!
Now
we
have
the
amendment
you
wanna
tell
us
about
the
amendment.
F
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
and
thank
you
to
the
members
of
the
committee.
Okay,
the
amended
bill
does
two
things.
First,
it
prohibits
the
state
election
commission,
the
secretary
of
state
or
coordinator
of
elections,
from
accepting
any
donation
from
a
private
person,
political
party,
corporation
or
organization,
unless
both
the
speaker
of
the
house
and
the
speaker
of
the
senate
approve
of
the
donation.
E
C
Thank
you
and
thank
you
sponsor
for
this.
I
think
we
had
something
like
this
last
year
or
not
last
year.
Last
week
from
some
sponsor,
I
guess
my
my
concern
is
small
election
commissioners
like
mine,
and
probably
I
don't
know
how
many
other
folks
up
here.
You
know
a
few
extra
dollars
for
mail
out
and
things
like
that
are
kind
of
helps
us
out
sometime.
I
guess
I
would
ask
you
why.
Why
is
it
necessary
to
cut
these
funds
off?
Is
that
is
it
causing
some
inoffense
in
elections
or
something
of
that
nature.
E
Well,
I
and
obviously
yes,
it
could
so
we're
wanting
to
bring
the
transparency
and
not
be
involved
in
any
of
that.
C
E
Yes-
and
I
have
alexandria
honeycutt
that
is
available
to
speak
on
that
and
so.
A
I
was
just
making
sure
everybody's
met
the
deadline
to
testify
all
right.
You,
you
have
two
that
can
testify
on
the
bill
both
or
either
one
either
one.
You
want
to
call.
A
So
we
no
objections,
so
we've
got
a
session
here.
Testimony
hearing
no
objections,
we're
now
out
of
session.
Please
state
your
name
and
any
organization
you're
with.
B
Sure,
alexandria
honeycutt,
I
represent
the
foundation
for
government
accountability.
What
we
saw
in
this
past
election-
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
secretary
of
state,
but
we've
had
numerous
meetings
with
them
and
there
were
certain
organizations
that
did
contact
them
numerous
times
to
allow
them
to
give
grants
to
them.
They
declined
those
grants.
They
then
went
to
the
local
governments
and
asked
for
the
local
governments
to
accept
those
all
of
the
local
governments.
B
What
we
are
finding
is
that
in
a
lot
of
instances
and
again,
tennessee
has
great
statute
in
place
and
great
election
laws,
but
this
is
just
tightening
that
up
a
little
bit.
What
we
are
finding
is
in
some
states-
and
we
don't
want
this
to
happen
here-
is
that
when
they
give
those
grants,
there's
nothing
tied
to
those
and
there's
not
any
transparency
as
far
as
what
they're
being
used
for
what
areas
that
they
are
being
used
for,
and
so
they
could
very
well.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
So
what
would
we
have
been
more
effective
to
say
than
if
you
receive
those
grants
you
have
to
spread
them
out,
for
instance,
they
have
to
be
used
for
that
purpose
rather
than
just
cutting
off
the
funds.
I
guess
my
real
concern
is
especially
for
small
towns.
Like
me
is,
I
know
how
important
sometimes
those
extra
funds
are,
but
I
certainly
would
want
them
to
be
used
fairly.
You
know
not
just
for
a
particular
party
but
for
the
entire
registry
of
elections.
Sure.
B
So
two
things
we
did
include:
for
instance,
in
this
past
election,
the
fedex
forum
was
used
for
an
in-kind
donation
for
voters
to
go
to
vote.
We
obviously
do
not
want
to
hinder
that,
and
so
we
did
put
in
language
that
things
such
as
that
for
in-kind
donations
of
that
magnitude
would
be
allowed
and
just
needed
to
be
verified
that
that
was
used
for
an
in-kind
donation,
sanitizer
certain
mailers,
that
those
types
of
things
we
included
in
this
legislation
to
make
sure
that
that
was
able
to
continue
to
happen.
B
I
would
also
say,
as
far
as
the
grants
that
were
asked
to
be
used,
this
would
still
allow
them
to
receive
them
if
they
got
the
permission
to
do
so,
either
at
the
local
level
by
the
secretary
of
state
and
the
election
commission
at
the
state
level,
they
would
still
be
able
to
receive
those.
They
would
just
need
that
approval
at
the
state
level.
A
Any
of
the
questions
of
this
this
testimony,
this
witness
seeing
none,
thank
you,
and
I
guess
director
goins
if
you
want
to
step
forward
while
we're
at
a
session
to
answer
any
questions.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
know
that
secretary
of
state
told
me
personally
and
I
was
very
proud
of
how
he
ran
our
last
election.
I
mean
I
was
proud
that
tennessee
was
not
involved
in
all
of
the
ruar
that
we
heard
on
tv
and
across
the
nation
and
having
said
that,
what
do
you
find
wrong
with
leaving
things
in
place
like
they
are
and
at
the
same
time,
can
you
explain
what
problems
you
think
this
will
this
will
solve?
If
we
pass
this
legislation,
yeah.
G
That's
a
great
question
and
to
let
you
know,
I
feel
very
strongly
about
this.
In
fact,
I've
spoken
ncsl
on
a
panel
about
this.
I
think
it's
dangerous,
so
what
we
have
here
now
this
isn't
political
parties
per
se,
but
this
would
ban
this.
You
had
non-profits
who
came
in
and
actually
operated
like.
They
were
a
government
entity
and
they
said
we're
going
to
fund
certain
things.
G
Perhaps
it's
you
know,
funding
an
early
voting
site
in
a
location,
but
they
had
stipulations
in
the
beginning
on
grants
and
and
then,
as
it
got
toward
the
end,
they
did
give
some
more
flexibility
to
to
the
election
officials
who
took
the
funds,
but
essentially
you
had
over
300
million
dollars
that
was
given
to
a
non-profit
and
I'm
not
saying
anything.
Nefarious
happened
specifically
this
non-profit,
but
essentially
this
non-profit
then
offered
grants
non-government
money.
You
don't
necessarily
know
who
it's
coming
from
in
some
instances
you
can
find
that
out
but
non-profits.
G
G
Both
of
those
individuals
were
on
the
ballot.
I
think
in
that
instance,
the
election
officials
who
took
the
non-profit
funds
and
if
you
knew
who
gave
those
funds,
I
think,
there's
a
conflict
of
interest
there.
I
think
it's
a
very
dangerous
step
when
we
start
taking
private
entity
funds
to
give
grants
to
decide
how
elections
are
going
to
be
run
when
realistically,
the
folks
who
should
make
those
decisions
are
setting
in
this
room
are
the
local
county
commissions
who
fund
them.
G
So
we're
not
talking
about
you,
know
an
outside
organization
coming
in
and
doing
what
they
typically
do
for
political
functions.
It
doesn't
bar
get
out
the
vote
activities
for
organizations
that
are
currently
doing
those.
It
just
says
we're
not
going
to
give
grants
to
the
election
commission
to
suddenly
get
them
to
go
out
and
do
get
out
the
vote
activities
that
we
might
be
involved
in,
and
so
this
is
a
slippery
slope.
It's
the
first
time
that
I
can
recall.
G
We
saw
this
much
money
in
well,
it's
the
first
time,
then
I
I
think
in
the
history
that
we
saw
the
private
funds
come
in
there
to
take
up
for
this.
There
is
what
I
would
call
the
hardiman
county
exception
that
you're
talking
about
there.
Certainly
we
in
developing
our
plan,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
folks
had
a
pin
and
could
walk
out
with
that
pin
not
using
the
same
pen
because
kova
19.,
many
of
the
small
counties
went
around
to
the
banks.
G
C
My
last
question:
if
a
and-
and
I
think
I
got
this
question
not
long
ago
from
somebody,
if
someone
if
an
organization
want
to
give
this-
may
not
be
right,
I'm
going
to
say
I
want
to
give
the
naacp
some
money
to
get
out
the
vote.
How
would
it
affect
them?
Would
they
be
violating
the
law
if
this
legislation
passed.
G
It
doesn't
it
in
that
instance,
that's
continued
activity,
that's
not
regulated
by
this
legislation.
This
only
applies
as
if
the
naacp
says
hardman
county
election
commission.
I'm
going
to
give
you
some
money,
you
go
out
and
do
what
I'm
asking
you
to
do
with
that
money.
So
it's
only
funds
that
go
into
the
conduction
of
an
election
so
going
into
the
election
commission
or
to
the
state,
and
you
notice
that
we're
fair
about
this.
We
would
not
only
put
in
there.
You
know
the
language
doesn't
only
apply
to
the
counties,
it
hits
us
as
well.
G
A
A
Hold
it
hold
it
one
moment
we
got
representative
williams
had
his
hand
up
for
a
long
time
been
waiting.
F
Just
and
it's
not
amen,
just
a
just
a
point
of
clarity
for
me,
I
you
know,
there's
a
lot
been
said
here.
We
as
elected
officials,
we
file
campaign
finance,
disclosures,
there's
ethical
standards
that
we
have
to
do.
What
this
bill
doesn't
absolutely
preclude
any
of
this
from
happening.
They
just
have
to
get
the
speakers
and
lieutenant
governor
to
approve
it
or
to
the
election
secretary
of
state's
office
to
do
it
so
the
the
this
300
million
dollars
of
shady
money,
it
it
it's
an
antiseptic.
F
This
this
bill
is
an
antiseptic
for
that
money,
no
one's
saying
that
they
can't
spend
the
money.
No
one
say
they
can't
have
it.
They
just
have
to
do
it
out
in
the
open
and
it
can't
they
can't
go
directly
to
an
election
administrator
to
do
it,
and
so
I
really
appreciate
the
representation
for
this
bill.
I
do
think
it's
something
that's
needed.
F
I
do
think
we
have
turned
the
page
in
elections,
obviously
in
america
and
the
amount
of
monies
that
are
being
willing
to
spend
in
elections
and
so
any
way
we
can
put
guide
rails
on
it
and
make
sure
that
the
the
citizens
know,
and
particularly
our
election
administrators,
know
in
secretary
of
state's
elections
office.
I
think
it's
really
important,
so
I
really
appreciate
you
running
this
bill
and-
and
I
look
forward
to
supporting
it.
Thank
you.
A
D
A
A
Now
we
are,
let's
see
once
again
back
at
the
bottom
of
the
calendar.
We
are
back
to
hb
13.
What
1324
by
representative
hardaway.
F
Rudd,
I
recognize
I'm
out
of
order
and
we're
waiting
on
people
to
show
up
in
committee,
but
I
noticed
at
the
back
of
the
room
that
senator
john
stevens
daughters
are
here
in
the
back
I'd
like
to
make
them
welcome.
I
do
want
to
for
the
body
to
know
that
the
senate
sends
their
children
here
to
learn
about
this
process,
and
we
we
welcome
them
here,
and
this
is
really
how
the
good
hard
work
of
legislating
is
done.
F
But
big
fan
of
senator
stevens
and
now
his
daughters
welcome
to
the
capitol.
A
We
we
have
a
we're
getting
near
the
end
of
the
calendar
and
a
couple
week
or
a
week
or
a
couple
weeks,
excuse
me
and
if,
if,
if
we
want
rather
than
keep
rolling,
we
can
give
take
a
brief
recess
to
see
if
anyone
we
have
time
to
see
if
any
of
the
other,
what
we
have
two,
we
have
two
bills
representative
towns
and
representative
hardaway.
We
can
recess
briefly
to
give
them
time
to
get
here.
You
want
to
take
a
a
five-minute
recess.
A
Any
objections
chairman
host
call.
A
Well,
I
don't
want
to
roll
them
unless
we
have
to
they
calendar
them,
but
that's
up
to
the
committee,
I'm
just
saying
if
you
wanna.
F
Well,
I
I
will
let
my
good
friend
from
davidson
county
opine
if
he
wants
to,
but
if,
if
the
committee's
gonna
meet
again,
then
they
would
be
one
and
two
on
the
list
at
the
next
committee
meeting,
if
they're
not
going
to
at
least
give
them
some
time
to
run
their
bills,
they're,
obviously
normally
very
punctual
in
all
that
they
do.
And
so
my
assumption
is
that
they're
just
tied
up
in
other
committees,
and
it
would
keep
the
body
from
having
to
sit
here
in
an
event
for
them.
A
Well,
I
always
try
to
be
be
be
fair
to
everyone.
A
A
Next
is
hb
1486
by
representative
towns.
Any
objections
we'll
roll
that
one
week
seeing
none
and
I
believe,
let
me
check
that
does
we've
had
a
confusing
day.
I
believe
that
brings
us
to
the
bottom
we're
fun
to
finish
with
business.
Are
there
are
there
any
announcements
or
personal
privileges
or
anything
else,
all
right,
seeing
none?
We
are
adjourned.