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House Department of Agencies Subcommittee House Hearing Room 3
A
B
A
A
I
would
love
a
song
after
committee,
we'll
make
sure
that
happens
so
we'll
get
right
into
it.
We
have
eight
bills
on
the
calendar
just
to
update
everybody.
That's
waiting
on
a
particular
bill.
I'll
give
you
an
update
item
number
two
hb
one,
seven,
four
nines
rolled
one
week.
A
C
C
This
come
from
me
to
the
to
me
from
the
city
of
bristol
and,
of
course,
one
side
of
the
street
is
in
virginia
one
side
of
it's
in
tennessee
and
we're
trying
to
make
things
match
up.
Virginia
passed
this
and
now
tennessee's
looking
at
it.
What
it
does
is
it
creates
a
festival
license
with
the
tabc
and
it
will
allow
them
to
designate
an
area
to
where
they
can
have
open
containers.
C
So
that's
what
house
bill
2514
does
and
I'd
like
to
have
your
support
be
glad.
A
It
is
a
unique
situation.
Nobody's
ever
been
there.
The
the
state
line
goes
right
through
the
middle
of
downtown,
so
it's
kind
of
like
a
hatfield
mccoy
type
deal.
Does
any
of
the
members
have
any
questions
comments?
Reps?
The
you
recognize,
mr
beck.
C
C
I
I'm
kind
of
I'm
kind
of
challenged
when
it
comes
to
the
sport.
A
Just
for
the
representative,
it's
september
9th
through
the
11th
september.
A
A
Okay,
we
got
a
motion
second
on
the
bill
and
we
do
have
an
untimely
filed
amendment.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
A
D
Yes,
sir,
mr
chairman,
this
this
amendment
will
will
make
the
bill
a
couple
of
the
really
the
the
major
part
that
was
added
that
you
don't
have
in
front
of
you.
D
It's
talking
about
adding
it's
adding
some
terms
that
that
kind
of
catch
the
code
up
with
the
times,
as
far
as
when
we're
talking
about
technology
such
as
zoom
we're
talking
about
audio
visual
means,
and
so
essentially
this
is
talking
about
the
administrative
law
hearings
that
are
held
in
commerce
and
insurance
committees,
things
like
the
board
of
funeral
directors
and
embalmers
when
they
have
an
administrative
law
hearing.
D
A
A
A
E
So
a
quick
story
as
to
why
I'm
bringing
this
legislation-
I
had
a
constituent
call
me
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
saying
that
he
had
an
employee
that
had
been
working
for
him
for
a
long
time
who
had
worked
his
way
up.
He
was
an
expediter
in
the
kitchen
and
was
trying
to
become
a
waiter
when
he
was
hired
to
become
a
waiter.
He
was
asked
to
go,
get
his
his
abc
license.
E
And
he
let
me
know
that
there
was
a
weird
loophole
in
the
law
that
doesn't
allow
certain
immigrants
who
are
legally
lawfully
within
the
united
states
legally
lawfully
allowed
to
work
to
get
a
professional
license
from
the
state,
and
he
said
this
comes
up
all
the
time,
and
so
anyway,
I
did
some
research
and
found
out
that
there
are
about
seven
to
nine
thousand
people
that
fit
within
this
category
in
tennessee
alone,
and
if
we
pass
this
bill,
we
will
go
a
long
way
to
allowing
those
people
to
fit
within
this
category
to
get
meaningful
work.
E
As
you
know,
waiters
as
nurses,
doctors,
any
professional
license
within
that's
authorized
or
given
through
the
state
they'll,
be
able
to
get,
and
that's
that's
what
the
what
the
bill
does.
A
I
do
applaud
your
efforts
on
this.
I
think
it's
it's
a
very
solid
good
bill
from
you
know
putting
you
know
with
us
out
there
needing
people
in
these
restaurants
or
whatever
you
know.
That'll
maybe
fill
some
of
the
gaps.
So
I
think
it's
we're
voting
on
the
amendment
to
put
it
on
bill.
Those
in
favor
say:
aye
opposed
amendment's
on
the
bill.
Now
you
amen
makes
the
bill
correct.
Yes,.
E
A
F
This
legislation
is
brought
to
you
by
the
secretary
of
state's
office
to
change
the
manner
that
charities,
charitable
solicitors
and
athletic
agents
certify
a
small
number
of
documents
so
that
they,
these
parties
can
electronically
file
these
documents
without
having
to
verify
authorization
for
I
lost
my
place.
Excuse
me
anticipated
to
go,
live
in
a
system.
That's
going
to
go
live
this
year,
the
business
services
and
charitable
organization
division.
The
department
of
state
is
developing
electronic
filings
platform
to
allow
charities,
businesses
and
citizens
to
file
documents
electronically
with
the
department
of
state.
F
Although
most
documents
file
with
the
with
the
state
do
not
require
the
filer
to
notarize
the
document
or
otherwise
swear
under
the
penalty
of
perjury.
That
the
contents
of
the
document
are
true
and
correct.
A
small
amount
of
documents
do
because
electronic
filing
platform
will
use
online
documents
where
a
user
will
be
unable
to
fill
in
a
line
for
notarization.
F
B
And
thank
you
to
the
sponsor.
Do
you
think
that
not
having
this
sign
in
front
of
a
notary
might
open
the
floodgates
of
fraud
and
misrepresentation.
F
Go
ahead,
the
small
amount
of
documents
that
this
is
covering
we'll
still
give
the
attorney
general
and
secretary
of
state
the
ability
to
monitor
that.
But
I
do
not
believe
so.
F
A
A
G
G
This
bill
is
certainly
comes
about
because
we've
had
instant
instances
in
this
state
where
people
have
lost
their
lives
or
because
a
call
has
been
transferred
from
a
district
or
received
by
a
9-1-1
district
transferred
and
then
lost,
and
our
current
legislation
basically
says
a
district
should
either
direct
dispatch
transfer
or
relay
a
call
the
bill.
The
legislation
that's
in
place.
It
says
it's
sadly
silence.
G
G
That's
primary,
but
they
certainly,
if
they're
going
to
be
transferred.
They
do
not
want
to
see
that
call
just
get
moved
over
and
potentially
lost
from
that
initial
call.
So
this
bill
basically
says
that
primary
call
has
to
stay
on
hold
until
the
transferred
peace
app
or
the
transfer
party
has
dispatched
that
emergency
service
to
that
citizen,
and
that
that
that
makes
just
that
hopefully
makes
common
sense
and
and
always
doing
as
legislators.
We're
not.
We
shouldn't
have
to
get
in
the
weeds
on
here.
G
So
I'm
just
saying
that
state
board
should
establish
this
policy
and
procedures
and
be
certain
that
all
ecds
within
two
years
are
following
it.
So
hopefully
we'll
never
get
that
call
about
hey.
You
know
a
family
member,
you
know
called
some
psap
or
9-1-1
and
got
transferred
got
disconnected
every
time
they
got
there.
It
delayed
that
emergency
service,
whether
seconds
or
minutes,
and
that
just
again
should
not
occur
so
again
that
that
is
what
the
bill
does.
G
It's
and
department
of
safety
are
they
here.
G
They
came
to
my
office
today
with
a
concern
that
they
didn't
want
to
get
somehow
tied
into
this.
I
didn't
know
they
were
a
part
of
it,
so
they've
asked
to
be
amended
out
of
it.
So
I
would
like
to
see
what
their
amendment
looks
like,
but
I
would
like
to
take
any
questions
from
any
committee
members.
A
G
No,
I
do
not.
I
have
had
certainly
calls
from
family
members
on
this
stephanie
love
who
antonio
parkson
you
know
put
in
a
prayer
request.
Last
night
session,
the
school
board
member
from
memphis.
She
called
me
last
week
about
her
mother
that
died
two
years
ago
when
she
placed
a
9-1-1
call.
It
went
to.
I
won't
mention
the
district,
but
the
caller
says
you're,
not
in
my
district.
You
need
to
make
another
call
and
the
time
she
made
the
other
call
called
tried
to
call
again
she
had
collapsed.
G
A
neighbor
called
came
over
to
her
house
saw
her
call
9-1-1
got
the
correct
9-1-1
district,
but
it
was
too
late
for
her.
So
you
know
it's
just
it's
the
same
time
of
technology
and
service.
It's
just
I
mean
we're
paying
250
million
dollars
roughly
a
year
for
our
911
service
statewide.
We
should.
We
shouldn't,
have
a
question
with
this
this
this.
Should
this
really
shouldn't
even
be
an
issue
it
shouldn't?
G
It
shouldn't
require
legislation,
of
course,
I'll
get
off
a
little
bit
on
9-1-1
because
they
don't
want
anyone
directing
them
how
to
play
in
their
sandbox.
They
just
that's
just
seemingly
the
nature
of
the
beast.
Now
I
have
the
there's
a
911
association
out
of
west
tennessee.
That
certainly
has
written
me
and
I
think,
there's
16
members
and
they
have
endorsed
this
legislation
and-
and
I
and
if
I
talk
to
any
9-1-1
district
they're
all
saying
they're
doing
this,
they
would
not
leave
a
call
unattended,
they
would
directly
dispatch.
G
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
my
situation
is
that
in
gibson
county
we
have
what
we
call
central
control.
All
all
calls
go
to
central
control
and
then
they're
dispatched
out
to
whoever
party
needs
to
to
handle
that
particular
situation.
So
in
light
of
that,
how
does
this
affect
them?
Then,
representative.
A
G
You,
mr
chairman,
it
means
that
whoever
the
the
which
county
again
gibson
gibson
county,
the
gibson
county
9-1-1,
would
take
the
call-
and
they
would
say
on
that
call
when
they
transfer
it
to
a
medical
provider
or
to
emergency
service.
They'll
just
stay
on
the
line,
with
the
call
and
be
certain
until
they
hear
that
whoever
was
dispatched
to
that
emergency
so
that
caller
who's
on
the
line
cannot
will
still
have
someone
in
case
to
be
on
the
line
with
them.
Until
that
emergency
service
is
released.
G
G
We
as
legislators
should
sit
there
and
say
this
is
the
type
of
service
that
our
citizens
expect,
that
they
don't
want
to
make
a
call
and
get
it
transferred
and
possibly
go,
be
disconnected
or
go
unattended,
and-
and
that
is
so
I
don't.
This
is
how
I'm.
H
There
my
guys,
have
a
problem
with
this.
I
I
don't
think
it
is
a
problem
for
us
in
in
gibson
county.
Maybe
I
doubt
if
we're
unique,
maybe
we
are,
but
I
doubt
if
we
are
they're
not
they're,
not
in
favor
of
this
bill,
so
that
makes
me
hesitate
in
the
first
place,
but
it
seems
like
in
in
my
particular
situation:
it's
not
broken.
So
if
it's
not
broken,
I
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
do
anything
about
it
and
I
I
won't
I'll.
I
B
Mr
chairman,
I
was,
we've
got
some
people
here
to
speak.
I
know
my
911
head
is
here
to
speak.
I
just
met.
I
just
met
him,
so
I
hope
we'll
be
able
to
hear.
A
I
You
james
health,
legislative
liaison
for
the
department
of
safety
and
homeland
security
hope
everyone's
doing
well.
I
was
not
in
your
meeting
with
elizabeth
representative,
bricken
and
representative
beck
when
we
were
communicating
about
this
and
committee.
Really.
The
biggest
concern
for
the
department
of
safety
is
just
thp
dispatchers.
We
were
hoping
to
as
representative
brooking
mentioned,
to
just
be
amended
out
of
this
legislation,
and
that's
the
extent
that
our
concerns
are.
A
Any
other
comments
for
our
guest
see
now
from
committee
you're
excused
and
maybe
bill
anders
it's
inaudible
bran.
J
This
bill
would
give
us
would
cost
us
an
enormous
amount
of
money
in
manpower,
exactly
what
was
spoken
of.
We
take
over
three
or
almost
three
hundred
thousand
nine
one.
One
calls
and
three
hundred
thousand
non-emergency
calls
and.
J
No,
I
can't
give
you
I
would
have
to
see
that
chart
in
front,
but
we
see
it
in
the
board
meetings,
but
I
would
be
I
couldn't
give
you
the
exact
number.
It's
an
enormous
amount
of
calls
that,
but
the
top
10
districts
take
50
of
the
calls
and
we're
number
three
in
the
state.
J
But
but
if,
if
we
have
to
keep
someone
on
the
line
for
an
agency
to
be
dispatched,
we
would
have
to
hire
an
enormous
amount
of
people
to
keep
every
money
on
the
line
we
could
have
police
or
sheriff
or
even
fire
or
not,
usually
not
fire.
But
ems
could
be
backed
up
to
the
point
where
they're
holding
calls
and
if
we
have
to
stay
on
the
line
until
they
dispatch
someone.
It
would
be
very
time
consuming.
J
So
there
is
technology
to
monitor,
dropped
calls,
and
we
do
that.
We
call
people
back.
This
could
be
fixed
policy
wide
inside
of
a
district.
This
is
a
local
issue.
If
there's
an
issue
locally,
that's
exactly
what
it
is
and
we
have
policies
to
call
back.
We
can
even
get
the
numbers
if
the
call
we
don't
even
speak
to
the
caller,
and
so
this
is.
J
This
is
a
solution
looking
for
a
problem
for
us
in
our
eyes
and-
and
I
believe
that
that
it
would
cost
us
money
as
well
with
our
city
and
county,
both
paid
the
dispatch
services
out
of
ours.
They
pay
us
back
for
dispatch
services
and
that
would
eliminate
them
having
to
pay
for
that
and-
and
it
would
cost
us
roughly
four
million
dollars
a
year
to
replace
that
for
our
district.
G
G
Director,
you
all
currently
do
direct
dispatch
in
knox
county.
Is
that
correct.
J
G
J
Do
complete
direct
dispatch?
We
have
direct
dispatch
by
our
employees
to
the
knoxville
police
department,
the
knox
county,
sheriff's
office,
karin's
volunteer
fire
department
and
knoxville
fire
department.
We
transfer
calls
to
ems.
We
transfer.
There
is
two
other
fire
districts
in
our
community
that
we
transfer
dispatch
services
to
as
well
as
thp
as
well
as
utpd.
G
All
right
can
you
if
it
was
a
transfer
to
an
ems
service.
Please
tell
the
committee
how
that
call
would
be
handled.
J
J
And
so,
if
it's
just
ems,
we
will
take
that
call
and
take
some
information
to
verify
the
information
that
comes
in
on
the
technology
side
and
then
we'll
send
it
over
to
the
ems
provider.
The
ems
provider
will
then
ask
further
questions
in
emergency
medically
dispatched
that
call
if
we
had
to
wait
until
that
was
done,
it
could
take
us.
We
could
be
holding
our
call
takers
online
for
over
another
minute
or
so,
and
we
don't
want
to
do
that
very
time
consuming
and
cumbersome
for
our
district.
G
J
A
Okay,
we
do
have
more
testimony.
You
want
to
hear
we'll
go
back
out
of
session
and
steve
martini
we'd
like
to
give
you
three
minutes
also,
and
if
you
would
state
your
name
and
who
you
with
and.
K
Yeah,
it's
a
tricky
word
down
here.
My
name
is
stephen
martini.
I'm
the
director
of
the
metro,
nashville
department
of
emergency
communications,
I've
also
in
my
second
term,
appointed
to
the
tennessee
emergency
communications
board.
I'd
like
to
give
representative
beck
a
little
bit
of
a
reprieve.
I
took
the
position
with
metro
nashville
right
before
right
after
coven,
so
I
didn't
meet
really
anybody
there
for
a
couple
of
years,
as
we
all
stayed
home.
K
The
opportunity
to
get
out
now
is
kind
of
nice.
Speaking
today,
metro
nashville,
which
is
metropolitan
nashville
davidson
county,
is
really
one
of
the
most
consolidated
unified
forms
of
government
in
in
the
state
and
one
of
the
first
in
the
nation.
K
As
I
understand
it
to
do
so,
even
still,
we
do
not
directly
dispatch
for
the
vanderbilt
university
police
department
that
handles
the
campus
in
the
medical
center
and
we
do
not
directly
dispatch
for
the
nashville
airport,
who
handles
their
own
nationally
accredited
law
enforcement
departments
and
directly
dispatch
their
resources
on
on
site
in
our
environment.
I've
been
I've
been
working
in
public
safety
communication
in
tennessee
for
18
years.
K
B
Chairman,
so
we
heard
the
the
testimony
from
knox
county
ems
that
we're
not
or
when
I
say
we
nashville
davidson
county
is
not
in
that
same
situation.
Correct,
correct,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
our
911
operators
handle
the
calls
all
except
for
vanderbilt
and
the
airport.
Is
that
what
I
mean?
That's.
B
Correct
okay,
so
so
how
would
this
bill
affect
us
or
would
it
affect
it?.
K
Would
affect
us
if
we
were
responsible
for
directly
dispatching
that
9-1-1
call
that
comes
from
or
on
campus,
at
vanderbilt
university
or
at
the
medical
center,
which
is
absolutely
possible
about
95
percent
of
our
911
calls
come
to
us
from
cell
phones.
Those
cell
phones
are
routed
by
nearest
cell
tower
to
us,
so
that
tower,
as
you
can
imagine,
if
you
think
about
downtown
nashville
those
towers
that
your
callers
is
hitting
off
of
are
very
likely
not
associated
with
the
campus
or
with
the
airport.
So
it
catches
that
next
closest
tower.
K
We
answer
that
911
call
recognize
it
as
an
emergency
inside
the
campus
or
inside
the
airport
and
then
connect
that
caller,
assuming
it's
a
law
enforcement
emergency
with
vandy,
pd,
dispatchers
or
airport
authority
dispatchers
to
handle
the
response
inside
of
that
that
location,
if
there's
a
medical
need
or
a
firefighting,
need
we're
going
to
stay
on.
Obviously,
we
stay
on
the
line,
no
matter
what,
but
we
would
stay
on
the
line
and
dispatch
the
appropriate
fire
and
medical
response
as
they
handled
the
law
enforcement
response.
It's
a
tandem,
simultaneous
response.
B
Mr
chairman,
I
just
want
to
take
a
second
to
brag
on
my
9-1-1
director
and
the
services
that
that
they
give,
as
I
told
him
and
and
the
sponsor
of
this
bill
when
I
met
with
him
earlier,
I
have
had
zero
complaints
on
my
911
services
and
we're
just
very,
very
proud
of
the
job
that
you
do.
Thank
you
thank.
K
A
month
we
receive
about
35,
000
or
so
911
calls
and
another
45
to
50
000
non-emergency
calls
per
month.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
director,
if
you
read
the
amendment
I
heard
you
read.
G
G
So
it
does
not
require
direct
dispatch
of
vanderbilt
or
the
airport.
You
can
still
it
says,
transfer
you
do
what
you
call
the
warm
whatever,
so
you
are
following
this
policy.
It
sounds
like
exactly
so.
It
should
not
cost
you
anything
because
you're
doing
exactly
what
I
would
think
a
district
would
be
do
and
when
you
said
most
districts,
rural
districts
in
our
state.
G
I
certainly
know
in
my
county
in
my
surrounding
counties,
one
they
all
do
direct
dispatch
and
they
all
do
it
to
their
emergency
services,
because,
unfortunately,
all
their
emergency
services
are
tied
to
it.
So
they
don't
have
any
isolated
situations
like
the
airport
or
vanderbilt,
so
in
in
certainly
a
lot
of
rural
counties
are
handling
it
that
way
so,
but
they
a
lot
of
rural
counties,
do
have
certain
medical
services
separate
issues
and
and
and
that
is
why
what
your
procedures
are.
G
K
In
my
18
years
doing
this,
sir,
if
I
can
respond
in
four
different
psaps
from
four
seaters
11
total
dispatchers
to
86
positions
and
191
here
at
nashville
and
everywhere
in
between
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
dispatch
center.
That
does
not
already
do
attended,
transfer
warm
transfers
between
dispatch
centers
and
we're
not
dropping
callers
between
folks.
So
I
share
mr
anders
opinion
that
feels
like
a
a
solution
without
a
problem.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
and
so
yeah,
I'm
glad
for
that
last
bit
of
information
right
there,
because
I'm
like
okay,
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
here.
If
you
all
are
already
doing
and
and
and
and
I'm
from
knox
county
and
very
proud
of
knox,
county's
9-1-1,
and
to
have
our
director
brad
anders
who
I've
served
on
county
commission
with
and
has
always
been.
L
We
all
are
aware
that
so
and
so
I'm
not
hearing
any
complaints
and
haven't
heard-
and
I
think
we
had
this
bill
pretty
much
similar
the
same
as
of
last
year,
so
we
discussed
it
at
length
and
I
have
still
have
not
heard
had
any
complaints
from
knox
county
or
from
anybody
else
and
and
not
picking
on
my
colleague
here
or
I
mean
I
just.
L
I
I
mean,
I
guess,
I'm
just
confused
where
we're
going
and
rolling
in
a
week
for
as
the
safety
amen,
I
don't
see
that
that
changes
anything
or
or
makes
anything
different
as
to
what
we've
been
discussing.
So
I
would
not
be
for
rolling
it
for
a
week.
So
again,
you
know,
I
think,
tennessee.
We
all
want
to
do
and
be
the
best
at
everything,
and
I
think
we're
doing
very
well
at
this.
L
We've
had
a
lot
of
disasters
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
with
flooding
and
bombing
and
and
a
lot
of
issues,
and
so,
if
I'm
hearing
from
from
you
as
a
9-1-1
director
here
in
nashville
and
you're
on
the
state
board,
that's
appointed
by
governor
and
I'm
hearing
from
my
9-1-1
director,
who
is
also
appointed
by
governor,
I
don't.
L
I
can't
figure
out
where
the
problem
is
so
I
just
I
just
wanted
that
to
be
on
record
to
know
that
I
am
against
this
bill
and
I
don't
see
rolling
it
for
a
week
changing
an
amendment
or
taking
safety
out
of
all
things.
We
shouldn't
be
taking
our
safety
out
of
something
so
anyway,
that's
just
my
my.
G
Get
back
on,
I
think
it
needs
to
be
clear.
The
two
major
counties
that
are
here
are
two
of
I
think
105.
G
I
don't
think
in
all
105
psaps
districts
around
the
state
they're
up
to
the
same
standard
that
possibly
davidson
county
is,
and
we
need
assurance
there
up
to
it,
and
this
policy
just
says
for
your
board
you're
bored
to
be
certain
that
they're
they
meet
this
standard,
and
you
know
that
is.
I
have
a
letter
from
signed
by
10
9-1-1
directors
that
I
sent
to
every
one
of
y'all
supporting
this
legislation,
those
10
9-1-1
directors,
for
whatever
reason
feel
like
this
is
good
legislation
they're
all
rural
9-1-1
directors.
G
L
Yeah-
and
so
so
I
guess
my
my
thing
if
they
are
really
wanting
this
bill
passed
and
they're
really
for
it.
Are
they
here
in
the
audience
to
speak
on
that,
so
that
concerns
me
and
then
I
mean
from
being
on
knox
county
commission,
our
city
mayor
and
our
county
mayor
appointed
our
9-1-1
board
of
directors,
and-
and
I
guess
I
don't
know
how
that
goes
in
every
single
county
in
tennessee.
But
I
assume
it's
a
similar
policy.
A
B
A
A
The
problem
I've
got
with
that.
We
went
in
major
discussion
so
and
we're
coming
up
on
a
big
time
calendar
next
week.
So
what
I
would
ask
the
committee
to
do
is
just
vote
on
it
and
see
if
you
want
to
let
it
roll
one
week
or
hear
it
today.
A
A
C
G
L
B
L
A
A
A
H
A
A
Basically,
hb2611
or
2616
is
a
simple
bill.
Basically,
what
it
does
is
in
the
lottery
winners.
It
allows
them
to
remain
anonymous.
Currently
we
do
not
have
that
in
the
state
of
tennessee
and
the
you
know
what
a
lot
of
people
don't
realize
some
of
these
big
time
winners
is
they
get
media
bombarded
unsolicited
calls,
and
even
some
of
them
you'll
realize
that
death
is
even
ensued,
so
I
think
the
person
I'll
have
the
option
to
remain
anonymous
if
they
win
the
lottery.
With
that
explanation,
I
renew
my
motion
need
a.