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House State Government Committee- March 8, 2022- House Hearing Room 1
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Seeing
none
chairman
keisling
is
presenting
a
bill
in
another
committee
and
should
return
pretty
shortly
and
and
his
I
guess
at
his
request
the
today
in
history,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
do
that.
I
think
that's
normally
his
thing,
but
but
today,
1965
more
than
four
thousand
marines
landed
at
da
nang
in
south
vietnam
and
became
the
first
u.s
combat
troops
in
vietnam.
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In
1971,
muhammad
ali
and
smoking,
joe
frazier
met
for
the
fight
of
the
century.
At
madison
square
garden
in
new
york,
fraser
won
the
fight
by
a
nationally
unanimous
decision
retaining
his
title
and
delivering
ali
the
first
loss
of
his
career
and
on
this
date
in
history,
in
2014,
malaysian
airline
flight
370
carrying
227
passengers
and
12
crew
members
lost
contact
with
air
control
less
than
an
hour
after
taking
off,
then
veers
off
course
and
disappears
most
of
the
plane
and
everyone
on
board
were
never
hurt.
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D
It
is
also
urging
president
biden
to
immediately
expel
from
the
united
states
all
russian
diplomatic
personnel
and
is
also
urging
the
president
of
the
united
states
and
the
united
states
congress
to
immediately
ban
all
imports
from
russia.
Like
I
said,
it's
very
timely
right
now,
there's
a
I'm
sure.
Everyone
is
aware,
that's
watching
and
in
the
room
of
what's
going
on
at
this
current
moment.
The
russian
military
is
currently
shelling
civilian
refugees
that
are
leaving
the
capital
and
trying
to
escape
and
all
sorts
of
other
very
heinous.
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Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
banning
russian
imports.
I
I'm
just
asking:
would
that
include
oil
and
fuel,
since
we
were
pretty
much
energy
independent
until
biden
took
office
and
killed
a
whole
lot
of
that,
and
so
now
I
think
30
percent
of
our
oil
import
comes
out.
Russia
would
would
that
be
to
ban
that
to.
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Representative,
so
thank
you
for
that
question.
It
is
my
understanding
that,
since
this,
like,
I
said
this
is
a
very
you
know,
timely
developing
circumstance,
it's
my
understanding
that
the
president
biden
did
announce
just
a
couple
hours
ago
and
I
don't
know
if
that
was
an
executive
order
or
what
mechanism
that
is,
that
the
united
states
officially
has
already
cut
off
all
oil
and
energy
exports
from
the
russian
government.
So
I
I
don't
know
okay.
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Represent
it
and
thank
you,
representative
bricken
and
I
do
agree
diplomacy
at
all
cost.
However,
back
to
the
point
about
the
shelling
this
morning
of
innocent
civilians
trying
to
leave
the
area
that
was
a
direct
result,
at
least
to
my
understanding
of
the
third
round
of
failed
peace
talks
between
the
ukrainian
and
russians
and
again,
I
think
that
diplomatic
efforts
are
extremely
necessary
right
now.
It's
very
clear
that
russia
is
on
an
agenda
and
peace
isn't
evidently
part
of
it.
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D
And
I'm
just
I'm
not
I'm
not
here
to
you
know
to
get
into
all
the
details,
but
I
will
say
that
you
know
this
is
a
very
timely
event
and
I
think
there
are
certain
opportunities
where
it's
incumbent
upon
us,
as
elected
people
to
you
know,
represent
some
of
the
values
of
the
democratic
republic
that
we
live
in,
and
I
think
this
is
just
an
example
of
that.
So,
okay,
thank
you.
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F
To
take
a
little
personal
order
here
and
introduce,
I
have
with
me
today:
marty
green
she's
from
rutherford,
county
and
she's,
my
shadow
today
she's
following
me
around
glad
to
have
you
they
should
have
picked
somebody
better
for
us
shouldn't
they.
I
wanted
to
talk
to
you
today
about
house
bill
2514.
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G
Her
mom
became
aware
of
that
somebody
had
photographs
and
she
realized
that
she
did
not
have
any
sort
of
privacy
as
it
related
to
those
and
those
could
have
been
used
any
training,
training
purposes
or
anything
like
that,
and
so
that
she
brought
the
bill
and
we've.
Last
year
we
protected
that
privacy.
The
way
the
bill
was
structured
last
year,
it
also
protected.
I
think
one
of
the
members
here
asked
a
question
about
rule
16,
as
it
relates
to
a
criminal
procedure
and
so
protected
that
as
well.
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It
makes
the
bill
all
right
this.
This
amendment
rewrites
the
bill.
I
see
yes,
sir,
with
that
objection,
we'd
go
ahead
and
put
the
amendment
on
the
bill.
If
that's
agreeable
with
the
committee
all
in
favor
yeah,
I
need
a
motion
in
a
second
on
that
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor
of
attaching
house
amendment
bill
or
house
amendment
15002.
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E
Thank
you,
sir,
and,
and
this
is
I'm
going
to
read
the
amendment
real
quick,
because
it's
really
short-
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
all
know
exactly
what
we're
doing
notwithstanding
another
provision
in
the
section,
a
public
benefit
does
not
include
a
professional
or
commercial
license
per
purpose
of
the
section
to
be
eligible
for
for
a
professional
or
commercial
license.
An
applicant
must
show
that
the
applicant
is
either
u.s
citizen
or
authorized
under
federal
law
to
work
in
the
united
states
as
verified
by
the
save
program.
E
So
where
this,
where
this
came
from,
is
I
had
a
business
owner
in
my
community
who
had
an
employee
who
was
legally
lawfully
within
the
united
states
and
able
to
work
and
tried
to
get
a
professional
license
and
was
told
they
couldn't
and
when
looking
into
it,
we
recognize
that
there
was
a
loophole
in
the
law
and
what
this
hopes
to
do
is
is
fix
it
right
now.
There
are
probably
seven
to
nine
thousand
people
that
fit
within
this
this
this
category
again
legally
lawfully
within
the
united
states,
ready
and
willing
to
work.
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You,
mr
chairman,
and
so
again
this
is
brought
to
us
by
the
secretary
of
state's
office.
I
think
they
visited
with
some
of
you
talking
to
you
about
this
bill.
It's
a
cleanup
bill
that
is
modernizing
the
section
of
code
talking
about
administrative
procedures.
I'll
give
you
just
a
very
couple
brief
examples
of
that
recently
attorneys
when
they
are
before
an
administrative
law
judge,
they
started
requesting
communication
and
official
documents
via
email.
I
This
is
allowing
this
is
kind
of
codifying
that
and
saying
you
know
if
a
final
order
is
sent
via
email,
that's
just
as
binding
as
receiving
it
via
mail.
It's
it's
updating,
some
terms
that
actually
take
into
account
zoom
again
something
that
really
didn't
exist
when
that
section
of
code
was
initially
written.
So
that's
kind
of
the
the
gist
of
it
is
modernizing
that
section
of
code
secretary
of
state's
office
is
here
to
testify.
If
you
need
any
any
further
technical
details
than
that.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
I
come
before
you
on
house
bill
1995.
This
legislation
is
brought
by
the
secretary
of
state's
office
to
change
the
manner
that
charities,
charity,
solicitors
and
athletic
agents
certify
a
small
number
of
documents.
So
these
parties
can
electronically
file
these
documents
in
the
new
electronic
filing
system
being
developed
by
the
secretary
of
state.
J
Although
most
documents
filed
by
the
business
services
and
charitable
division
do
not
require
the
filer
to
notarize
the
document
or
otherwise
swear
under
the
penalty
of
perjury,
that
the
contents
of
a
document
are
true
and
correct.
A
small
amount
of
documents
do
because
electronic
filing
platform
will
use
online
documents
where
a
user
will
fill
in
the
blanks
documents
that
would
require
notarization
could
not
be
filed
under
this
electronic
platform.
J
Allowing
citizens
and
organizations
to
file
all
documents
electronically
will
create
greater
efficiency
for
both
the
users
of
the
system
and
the
department,
notably,
the
removal
of
the
notarization
requirement
for
certification
of
the
small
amount
of
documents
that
will
be
removed
will
not
impact
the
department
of
state
or
the
attorney
general's
office
from
enforcement
on
false
information.
This
bill
will
promote
electronic
filing
will
possibly
impact
charities.
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K
Okay,
we
are
now
let
us
go
back
into
session
again.
As
a
reminder,
members,
we
are
on
item
number
five
house
bill
2273,
and
we
want
to
welcome
chairman
williams
to
the
podium
you're
looking
great
today,
sir
you're
you're
you're
recognized,
and
we
already,
you
already
have
a
motion
and
a
second.
You
are
again
to
you,
sir.
Thank.
B
You,
chairman
of
members,
my
apologies
on
being
tardy
to
the
committee
being
today.
This
bill
was
brought
brought
to
me
by
the
treasurer
since
2012
the
tennessee
consolidated
retirement
system
has
used
a
computer
system
called
concord,
as
its
central
system
demands
the
state's
defined
benefits,
retirement
systems
prior
to
concord,
tcrs
maintained,
multiple
administrative
systems.
The
concord
project
was
authorized
to
replace
previous
retirement
operating
systems
and
consolidate
the
various
retirement
administration
systems
into
one
centralized
systems.
B
This
bill
would
authorize
tcrs
to
procure
a
new
system
and
implement
other
technology
improvements
to
prevent
systems
from
once
again
becoming
obsolete
and
maintain
their
functionality.
This
bill
would
take
effect
upon
becoming
law.
Mr
chairman,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
members
might
have,
and
the
ambassador
west,
who
is
the
chief
of
staff
for
the
treasury's
office,
is
here
my
former
intern
in
case
your
questions
get
real
hard.
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A
a
tcrs
member
can
obtain
credit
in
the
system
by
transferring
their
employer
and
employee
contributions
from
a
local
government's
retirement
system
to
tcrs.
When
we
passed
it
last
year
we
had
a
little
bump
in
the
road.
So
in
order
for
us
not
to
jeopardize
our
federal
funding,
we
needed
to
fix
it
this
year,
and
you
know
that's
what
we
do
here
at
the
general
assembly.
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H
So,
as
a
result
of
the
federal
rule
prohibiting
the
transfer
of
employer
contributions,
the
bill
amends
current
law
to
remove
the
requirement
that
employer
contributions
be
transferred
to
the
tcrs.
So,
basically,
you
can't
have
two
public
pensions
for
the
same
service.
If
you
are
working
for
the
state,
I
mean
excuse
me
the
local
and
you're,
putting
your
pension
and
retirement
in
you
know
you
want
to
follow
it
to
the
state.
H
K
Very
good,
good
explanation,
questions
to
the
sponsor
you
have
heard
we're
ready.
I
think
we're
ready
for
the
questions.
I
see
no
objections.
Let's
do
that.
So
let
us
vote
those
in
favor
of
house
bill
2450,
please
say:
hi
pose,
lock,
sign
ice,
have
it
and
you
just
stay
right
there
you're
on
to
that
one
is
going
on
to
calendar
and
rules
chair
lady,
let's
move
on
members
to
the
next
one
that
is
chair,
lady
weavers,
as
well.
That's
item
number
13
house
bill
1649..
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A
In
title,
41,
I
believe,
is
the
it
did
this.
This
would
allow.
This
would
particularly
pertain
to
correctional
institutions
and
inmates,
and
this
this
would
bring
title
41
to
allow
for
cremations.
It
brings
it
in
line
with
title
68
so
that
to
ensure
that
68
does
include
the
correctional
facilities
so
this
this
currently
it
says
that
the
body
has
to
be
decently
interred
and
sometimes
the
families
either
choose
to
or
can't
afford
to
to
claim
the
body,
and
it's
left
up
to
the
state
to
to
make
arrangements
for
the
disposition
of
the
body.
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A
K
L
You
money
from
legal
you're
both
right.
The
amendment
does
make
the
bill
and
it
does
deal
with
the
disposition
of
bodies
due
to
some
conflicting
statutes
that
made
it
unclear
for
department
of
correction
as
to
how
to
dispose
of
unclaimed
bodies.
This
would
allow
them
to
reduce
their
costs
by
being
able
to
potentially
cremate
bodies
that
are
unclaimed
rather
than
bury.
K
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K
L
Matt
mundy,
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
original
bill
house
bill
2339,
which
said
subject
to
appropriations
in
the
general
appropriations
act
preferred
service.
Employees
of
the
department
of
correction
would
have
their
wages
and
salaries
increased
by
15
and
additionally,
starting
salaries
and
wages
for
preserve
for
preferred
service.
K
C
K
M
M
But
my
understanding
is
that
there
were
30
employees
under
richard
montgomery
who's.
The
chairman
of
the
parole
board,
who
are
not
included
in
this
group
and
most
the
employees
at
the
parole
board,
are
in
fact,
executive
service
and
work
at
the
pleasure
of
the
governor
and
were
included
in
different
pay
raises.
I
want
to
make
sure
this
amendment
also
encompasses
not
just
the
employees
that
were
requested
by
my
colleagues
on
this
committee,
but
also
includes
the
employees
who
are
in
what
I
term
his
preferred
service
at
the
parole
board.
M
L
M
And
mr
chairman,
I
don't
have
a
running
debate,
he's
been
very
helpful,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
amendment
includes
not
just
the
employees
that
we
talked
about
last
week
to
the
members
of
this
committee,
but
also
includes
the
employees
not
of
parole
board
chairman
montgomery,
but
those
that
work
at
the
pro
board.
It
includes
everybody,
everybody's
included
in
this,
as
opposed
or
not
as
opposed,
but
in
lieu
of
the
employees
that
are
correctional
officers
or
in
the
security
series.
K
K
K
K
Any
questions
now
on
the
amendment
see
no
no
see
no
objections.
Let's
vote
on
the
amendment.
Remember
it
is
one
four,
eight,
seven,
six,
those
in
favor,
please
say
I
I'm
supposed
like
sign
eyes.
Have
it
now
we
have
that
bill
house
bill
2339
the
amendment
on
that
chairman
brickin.
You
are
recognized.
C
M
M
But
it's
my
understanding
that
the
20
million
dollar
decrease
is
a
result
of
taking
the
security
series
out
of
another
pay
raise
which
would
result
in
them
getting
a
30
pay
raise,
which
they
certainly
deserve
from
my
perception.
But
it
might
not
be
fair
when
you,
you
stack
that
against
some
others
who
did
not
get
raises,
such
as
maintenance
workers
or
we've.
M
All
I
mean
again,
I
won't
go
into
a
too
much,
but
most
people
in
this
room
have
heard
from
individuals
who
work
at
a
prison
who
have
been
left
out
of
the
pay
raises,
and
this
maybe
makes
this
equal-
and
I
know
that
there's
some
intent
for
some
desire
to
fund
this
and
we're
going
to
work
that
out
as
we
get
on
down
the
pike.
But
I
think
this
puts
it
in
the
right
posture
that
addresses
the
concerns
that
rightfully.
K
Chairman
brickin,
the
the
the
sponsor
did
mention
legal
would
did.
Would
you
want
to
go
further
than
this
and
we
can
go
out
of
session?
No.
He
says
no
further
questions,
though
mr
or
chairman
rick
and
further
questions.
No
okay,
any
any
question
any
more
questions
to
the
sponsor
see.
Now
I
don't
got
a
call
for
the
question
here.
We
go.
Let's
vote
those
in
favor
of
house
bill,
23
39
as
amended.
Please
say:
aye
those
pose
lock
sign.
I
have
it
and
chairman
wendell.
You
are
going
to
finance
ways
and
means.
K
K
C
C
C
We
are
mirroring
some
legislation
that
the
representative,
terry
is
carrying,
and
I
think
the
the
thought
is
chairman,
chairman,
kiesling
and
others
that
we'll
would
love
to
pass
this
bill
through
and
and
we'll
leave
one
of
those
bills
and
calendar
rules
and
just
decide
how
to
work
with
our
senator
on
this,
but
certainly
would
like
to
move
this
legislation
forward
at
the
will
of
the
committee
chairman
of
members.
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you
for
that
explanation,
chairman.
Any
further
questions
to
the
sponsor
we
have
well.
We've
got
a
motion,
call
for
the
question.
Questions
being
called
see
no
objections
to
that.
So
let
us
vote
in
house
bill
2308,
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye,
aye
opposed
lock,
sign
nice
have
it
and
chairman
hawk,
you
are
off
to
gov
ops.
Oh
thank
you
chairman
to
members.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
K
K
Okay,
well,
if
there's
no
objections
so
house
bill,
15
or
excuse
me
item
15
house,
bill
2734
is
taken
off
notice.
Now,
there's
our
distinguished
chairman
he's
back
in
here.
What
number
was
that
six?
Okay
item
number
six
chairman
whitson
with
adam
excuse
me
house,
bill
18,
1854
and
where
that
is
carrying
an
amendment,
would
you,
sir,
give
us
that
amendment
that
drafting
code
got.
K
K
That
what
you'd
like
to
do,
okay,
we've
got
a
motion
in
a
second
here.
A
call
for
the
question
get
this
on
the
bill.
Here
got
a
call
for
the
question,
though.
Let's
vote
those
in
favor
of
amendment
one
three,
seven
three
three
please
say
aye.
Those
opposed
lock
sign
all
rights
have
it.
It
is
now
on
the
bill.
Eight
house
bill
1854
is
amended.
Now,
chairman
quits
and
you're
recognized
sir
good
to
see
you
again.
B
B
The
purpose
is
to
improve
consistency
and
clarity
to
the
terminology
in
places
in
which
the
language
causes
occasional
confusion
in
the
field.
The
changes
are
in
accordance
with
current
law
and
advisements
from
the
office
of
open
records
council
in
the
comptroller's
office
as
a
minute
as
amended,
this
bill
makes
it
clear
that
the
law
does
not
require
a
governmental
entity
to
compile
information
from
multiple
files
into
a
new
record.
To
answer
a
public
records
request.
B
This
bill
also
makes
clear
that
a
personal
request
for
public
record
must
be
sufficiently
detailed
to
enable
the
government
entity
to
identify
responsive
records,
changing
the
words
specific
to
responsive,
so
that
it
is
not
misinterpreted
to
mean
that
the
requester
must
necessarily
name
the
specific
title
of
the
record.
Finally,
our
public
record
law
permits
a
governmental
entity
to
decide
whether
or
not
they
will
fulfill
public
records
requests
from
people
who
don't
live
in
tennessee.
B
K
Thank
you
for
that
explanation,
chairman
whitson,
any
questions
to
chairman
whitson
this
time.
I
see
none
hear
none
do
have
a
call
for
the
question,
so
we
do
thank
you
for
that
and
see
no
objections.
So
let
us
vote
on
house
bill
1854
as
amended
those
in
favor.
Please
say:
aye
opposed
lock,
sign
the
eyes.
Have
it?
Congratulations.
You
are
off
to
calendar
and
rules
chairman.