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House Public Service Sub Committee - March 10, 2021 - House Hearing Room 4
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A
A
C
Madam
chair,
with
your
permission,
the
amendment
actually
writes
the
bill
and
I'll
give
the
committee
an
explanation
of
it.
The
best
way
I
can
explain
this
bill
is
through
my
own
pest
control.
Business
y'all
know
that
I
I
do
pest
control
for
a
living
and
currently
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
I'm
not
allowed
to
sell
a
good
to
the
to
the
state
of
tennessee
and
we'll
just
take,
for
instance,
cordojo.
If
you've
seen
they
have
these
little
glue
boards
on
the
side.
C
When
you
walk
into
the
door,
that
would
be
considered
a
good
and
I
actually
have
those
in
my
business
but
occurring
according
to
current
law.
I
could
not
sell
a
glue
board
to
the
state.
Now,
however,
I
could
sell
my
services,
my
services
to
come
in
here
and
and
eradicate
the
rats,
and
I
could
sell
that
to
the
state
and
actually
use
the
very
things
that
I
can't
sell
to
you,
but
I
could
come
in
here
and
put
those
out
and
the
state
would
pay
me
to
do
that.
D
You
chairman,
would
you
be
able
I
mean,
but
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
sell
things
like
a
bomb
that
I
couldn't
you
know
to
blow
up
in
my
to
kill
the
bugs
in
my
I,
wouldn't
I
wouldn't
know
how
to
do
that.
As
far
as
would
you
be
able
to
sell
things,
the
only
you're
qualified
to
do.
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C
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A
A
F
You,
chairman
of
members
house
bill
368,
was
brought
to
me
by
or
the
idea
behind
it
was
brought
to
me
by
the
school
board
attorney
for
putnam
county
schools.
I
sent
to
the
chair,
lady
and
to
the
members
a
copy
of
the
letter
from
the
attorney
sent
it
to
me.
F
In
so
doing,
the
report
was
filed
with
the
sheriff
potter
county
sheriff's
office
through
the
sro
and
the,
but
there
were
no
charges
ended
up
being
brought
against
either
juvenile.
F
What
they
found
out
in
the
in
in
in
the
process
was
that
the
actual
school
board
records
regarding
these
juveniles
and
the
images
and
correspondence
that
was
between
the
two
juveniles
is
not
a
sealed
record,
even
though
they're
juveniles,
because
of
so
a
public
information
request
to
the
school
board
by
by
anyone,
would
require
them
to
have
to
provide
that
information
because
it's
a
school,
it's
a
matter
of
a
school
board
record.
F
So
what
this
bill
would
do
would
allow
for
the
parents
to
only
get
the
information
about
their
child
and
keep
those
records
sealed
for
those
there's.
There
was
a
little
bit
of
discussion
or
question
as
to
whether
or
not
these
records
are
sealed
because
they're
juveniles
already
the
purpose
really
is
there's
some
concerns,
whether
that
is
or
isn't
the
case,
and
this
would
clear
up
any
confusion.
There
might
be
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
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F
B
A
A
G
You,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
committee.
I
appreciate
your
indulgence
this
morning
house
bill
1347
was
deals
with
the
governor's
emergency
powers.
These
are
the
powers
that
we,
as
the
general
assembly,
granted
to
him
or
him
or
her.
Whoever
the
governor
is
in
in
the
event
of
an
emergency,
that's
very
appropriate,
and
it
can
be
very
useful.
G
Of
course,
we've
been
through
a
very
tumultuous
year,
not
only
here
in
tennessee
but
across
the
country,
but
what
this
would
say
is
that
if
the
governor
uses
those
powers
and
creates
an
executive
agency,
meaning
a
board,
a
commission
or
department
of
office
or
a
quasi-governmental
entity
in
the
executive
branch
of
state
government
that
they
would
come
before
gov
ops
every
six
months.
So
to
give
you
a
practical
application,
the
unified
command,
the
example
of
unified
command.
G
I
don't
think
any
of
us
questioned
that
there
needed
to
be
a
strong,
decisive
response
to
the
pandemic
and
I
think
we're
all
proud
that
that
happened,
but
when
you
have
an
entity
like
that,
that
ultimately
has
procurement
power
is
engaging
in
contracting
and
those
sorts
of
things.
I
think
it's
appropriate
that
the
people's
representatives,
the
general
assembly,
get
to
weigh
in
on
those
contracts
on
a
regular
basis.
The
way
we
do
on
on
any
other
government
contract
so
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
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B
A
B
B
Thank
you.
Madam
chairman.
I've
got
two
amendments
that
I've
worked
out
with
the
open
records.
Okay,
folks,
what's.
A
The
can
you
tell
me
the
drafting
code.
Please,
yes,.
A
B
Thank
you.
The
amendment
simply
says
that
an
individual
that's
arrested
their
their
street
address
is
not
displ
disclosed
unless
it's
at
the
scene
of
the
crime,
and
we
worked
that
out
with
the
open
records.
Primarily
though
it's
making
sure
their
personal
telephone
and
their
personal
social
security
number
is
not
just
not
exposed
to
the
public
county
government
brought
this
to
me.
People
are
arrested
and
they
are
getting
bombarded,
let's
say
by
people
that
want
to
contact
them
via
their
phone
number.
E
Let's
thank
thank
you,
chair
later
chair,
lady.
Let's
go
back,
would
you
repeat
that.
B
B
Yes,
so
currently,
if
you're
arrested
your
phone
number,
your
even
your
social
security
number
is
open
to
the
public.
E
B
D
B
Is
one
that's
interesting?
I
had
this
drafted.
Second,
okay,
all
right
number
one.
So
we
are
on.
Can
we
let
legal
clarify.
I
Josh
houston
from
legal
services
just
to
clarify.
B
E
Thank
you,
chair
lady,
you
mentioned
representative
casta,
the
county
government
said:
did
they
bring
this
to
you
officially,
the
the
county.
B
E
B
Well-
and
I
don't
know
what
the
word
would
be,
if
it's
a
database
or
not,
but
your
your
pub,
your
information
is
made
public
and
the
county.
We've
got
folks
in
williamson
county
that
doesn't
want
their
cell
number
open
to
the
public
and
the
social
security
number
for
that
matter,
and
this
protects
that
right
of
privacy.
If,
if,
if
arrested,
obviously,
if
you're
convicted,
that's
a
different
story,.
E
So,
okay.
E
Just
a
thought:
yeah
were
you:
were
you
delivered
a
or
forwarded
a
resolution
by
your
account
by
the
williams
county
county
commission
to
bring
this
was.
B
E
Chairman
keith,
thank
you
so
so
that
we're
we're
rather
than
having
this
as
a
if
you
will
a
private
act,
then
we're
this
is
going
to
be
statewide
application,
yeah
mount
mountain
city
to
memphis,
yes
right!
Okay
with
that,
I
think
that
that
concludes
my
line
of
questioning.
Thank
you
sponsor
and
thank
you
chair,
lady.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
mr
chairman,
are
the
social
security
numbers
given
out
now.
I
Heard
about
any
problem
with
any
of
this,
and-
and
I
think
what
the
way
you've
explained
it
through
talking
with
representative
kiesling,
I
would
I
would
like,
if
you
wouldn't
mind,
to
have
some
time
to
talk
to
my
two
county
attorneys
and
make
sure
they're.
Okay
with
that
yeah.
Would
you
mind
if
we
rolled
it
maybe
a
week,
and
let
us
give
us
some
time
that'd
be
fine.
I
think.
B
A
B
A
K
Thank
you,
chair
lady.
This
bill
does
does
a
couple
of
things.
First
of
all,
the
state
treasurer
would
be
authorized
to
establish
a
captive
insurance
company
for
the
purpose
of
ensuring
the
state's
potential
losses,
exposures
and
risk.
The
captive
insurance
company
would
be
a
separate
legal
entity
administratively
attached
to
the
department
of
treasury.
The
captive
insurance
company
would
be
subject
to
the
same
oversight
and
regulation
by
the
department
of
commerce
and
insurance
as
a
private,
captive
insurance
company.
K
Also,
the
state
treasurer
shall
or
would
administer
the
day-to-day
operations
of
the
captive,
including,
but
not
limited
to
contracting,
with
private
inventors
and
professionals
upon
a
delegation
from
the
board
of
claims
and
any
funds
received
by
the
captive
insurance
company
will
be
invested
and
reinvested
in
the
name
of
the
company
by
the
state
treasurer,
in
accordance
with
the
investment
policy
established
for
the
captive
and
in
compliance
with
laws
and
regulations
governing
private,
captive
insurance
companies
and
I'll
answer.
Any
questions
that
you
may
have.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chairman.
Is
it
true
that
if
we
are
able
to
do
this,
the
state
could
stand
to
save
a
lot
of
money
that
they
pay
on
insurance,
I
mean
this.
This
is
another
way
to
to
buy
insurance,
that
we
manage
the
risk
and
we
save
the
money.
The
way
I
understand
the
capital.
K
Just
to
put
that
in
perspective
speaker
marsh
during
the
last
three
years,
property
insurance
premiums
have
increased
significant
significantly
across
the
market,
and
the
state
has
experienced
a
350
percent
increase
in
its
property
insurance
premiums.
So
to
kind
of
put
that
in
perspective,
so
I
think
there
are
significant
savings.
Thank.
I
A
L
Thank
you,
madam
chairman.
Hb
1182
is
a
very
simple
bill.
It
was
brought
to
me
originally
as
a
suggestion
after
a
a
charity
fundraiser
a
couple
years
ago
and
with
this
legislation
is
for
the
protection
of
women
and
children
against
sexual
predators
that
could
be
taking
advantage
of
policies,
executive
orders
or
legislations
that
may
allow
the
opposite
biological
sects
to
enter
a
restroom
shower
or
locker
room
that
allows
more
than
one
person
in
the
facility
at
a
time.
This
legislation
does
not
anyway
address
who
can
or
cannot
enter
these
facilities.
L
This
bill
requires
a
sign
to
be
placed
on
the
entrance
of
the
building
of
the
facility
is
located
in,
and
the
entrance
of
the
restroom
shower
or
locker
room,
where
more
than
one
person
at
the
time
is
allowed
in.
At
the
same
time,
the
sign
reads
notice:
this
facility
maintains
a
policy
of
allowing
the
use
of
the
restrooms
by
either
biological
sex,
regardless
of
discrimination
or
designation
of
the
restroom.
Again,
this
legislation
does
not
limit
or
restrict,
who
may
or
may
not
enter
the
restroom
or
the
the
facilities.
L
It's
only
giving
a
warning,
and
what
is
sad
about
this-
is
I'm
not
here
to
just
to
address
the
whether
a
opposite
sex
should
be
allowed
into,
like
a
man
should
be
allowed
in
a
woman's
restroom,
but
any
policy
that
allows
that
could
allow
a
sexual
predator
of
a
woman
or
a
child
to
enter
the
room
and
be
waiting
on
them
if
it's
more
than
one
person
more
than
one
stall
at
a
time.
So
that's
only
letting
the
person
know
when
they
enter
the
room
that
this.
D
So
I
noticed
that
it
so
it's
in
whether
you
have
a
formal
policy
or
an
informal
policy.
That's
correct
so,
and
I
talked
to
a
couple
of
my
business
owners
about
this
and
mostly
restaurants,
hospitality
industry
and
they
don't
monitor
who
goes
into
their
restrooms.
They
don't
want
to
monitor.
It
goes
in
their
restrooms.
D
It
looks
like
it
would
put
a
target
on
that
business
for
for
people
who
do
not
like,
basically,
anything.
Of
course
they
have
a
unisex.
That's
exempt
right.
L
If
well,
most
most
facilities,
I've
been
in
restaurants
or
a
drugstore,
or
anything
that
has
this
restroom,
there's,
usually
only
one
stall,
one
person
in
there
at
a
time,
okay,.
L
This
wouldn't
address
that
they
wouldn't
have
putting
sign
up.
This
is
for
like
if
it's
labeled,
a
women's
room
or
a
men's
room
where
they
allow
two
more
than
one
person.
At
the
same
time,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that's
stipulated
that
if
you
have
to
allow
two
people
more
in
at
the
same
time,
two
or
more
stalls-
and
they
have
a
policy-
then
if
it's
marked
a
men's
room
or
a
women's
room
and
you're
allowing
the
opposite
sex
to
enter.
That
is
the
policy.
L
Otherwise,
it's
got
already
got
natural
restrictions
on
it.
It
says
men's
room
or
women's
room,
but
even
a
men's
room
or
a
women's
room
that
only
allows
one
person
at
a
time
would
not
have
to
put
a
sign.
This
is
only
when
you
allow
large
facilities
that
allow
multiple,
where
someone
could
be
waiting
most
of
the
places
I've
been
even
if
it's
a
men
or
women's
restroom.
L
They
only
allow
one
person
at
a
time,
and
sometimes
you
have
to
come
to
the
to
the
front,
to
get
the
key
like
at
a
say,
a
walgreens
or
a
market.
You
have
to
come
and
get
the
keys.
Sometimes
to
get
in,
but
it's
it's
labeled
a
man
or
women's
room.
This
would
simply
state
if
it
is
the
policy
of
the
facility-
and
they
don't
have
a
third
bathroom-
that
they
allow
more
than
one
person
at
a
time
that
opposite
sex,
they
need
to
know
who's
entering
the
room
and
who
could
be
in
there.
L
Just
you
need
to
let
the
public
know,
because
my
fear
is
this:
I'm
not
trying
to
even
address
transgender
itself.
I'm
that's
a
different!
I'm
not
doing
that.
My
problem
is:
if
you
allow
more
than
one
person
in
at
a
time
there
could
be
a
sexual
predator,
that's
going
to
rape,
a
woman
or
a
child
waiting
in
the
other
stall,
taking
advantage
of
that
policy,
and
I
just
simply
to
protect
them.
I
want
to
put
this
sign
up
to.
L
If
they
see
a
man
entering
a
women's
restroom,
they're
going
to
tell
them
to
leave
or
the
or
the
person
is
going
to
complain,
that's
in
there
there's
a
man
in
the
restroom
and
they'll
usually
take
care
of
it.
This
is
it
to
let
them
know
that
we
officially
have
this
policy,
and
you
need
to
be
aware
that
there
could
be
a
predator
waiting
on
you
in
that
room.
That's
what
this
is
for.
D
Okay,
I
I
think
I
understand,
I
think
it's
the
informal
policies,
but
I'm
kind
of
this
is
going
to
require,
I
think
my
business
student
to
monitor
their
restrooms
on
who's
going
in
going
out
when
they
have
other
things
to
do
well,
and
I
get
I
guess
the
sexual
predator
is
going
to
be
in
there
anyway.
I
mean
they're
going
gonna
if
they're
intent
to
rape,
a
woman,
whether
in
the
bathroom
or
not,
like
I
understand
what
you're
trying
to
do.
I
I
I
disagree
with
the
burden.
That's
gonna
put
on
the
business
but
chairman.
L
Abandoned
chairman,
I
I
disagree
with
the
gentleman
from
nashville.
I
do
not
believe
it's
putting
a
burden
on
a
restaurant
if
they
have
a
an
informal
policy
or
a
formal
policy
they're
already
supposed
to
be.
If
it's,
if
it's
marked
to
men's
room
or
women's
room
they're
already
supposed
to
be
monitoring
it,
that's
their
responsibilities.
Owner
of
the
property
they've
clearly
designated
that
that
facility
as
a
men's
room
or
a
women's
room,
and
if
they're
going
beyond
that,
allowing
someone
who's
who's,
claiming
to
be
opposite
of
what
their
biological
sex
is.
D
L
Me
a
chair.
No
I've
clearly
stated
this
is
not
intended
about
transgenders,
but
the
policy
of
allowing
the
opposite
sex
in
to
a
restroom
gives
cover
for
a
sexual
predator
to
also
be
in
there.
I
am
no
way
I'm
accusing
transgenders
of
being
sexual
predators.
Not
all
transgenders
are
I'm
not
even
getting.
L
That
policy
gives
cover
to
sexual
predators
being
there
waiting
on
them
when
normally
they
wouldn't
be.
Unless,
like
you
said,
if
someone's
going,
they
could
be
waiting
in
a
parking
lot
sure,
but
we
have
to
by
allowing
that
policy
if
that
policy
is
in
place
in
that
facility,
that
gives
them
cover
to
go
in
there
and
not
to
be
worried
to
be
found
out.
So
they've
done
something
because
they're
not
being
monitored
because
nobody
monitors
it
because
they
just
assume
everybody's
going
in
and
out,
and
they
don't
care
who
goes
in
and
out.
L
This
would
at
least
say
we
need
to
keep
an
eye
on
there
and
make
sure
that
that
this
policy,
if
this
policy
is
in
there,
it's
not
stopping
the
policy,
it's
not
limiting
the
policies,
just
simply
lets
the
woman
know
or
man
know
that
the
opposite
sex
is
allowed
in
there.
Therefore,
a
sexual
predator
could
be
taking
advantage
of
that
business's
policy
and
just
giving
them
a
warning
to
be
careful
as
they
enter
the
room,
but
it
does
not
limit
transgenders
from
using
the
facility.
E
So
if
chairman
wendell
walks
into
the
kiesling
insurance
agency
in
birdstown.
E
That's
that
it's
technically,
though
kiesling
we
don't
have
public
restrooms,
but
they're
there
for
ourselves
and
that
client
and
clientele,
if
needed,
but
we're
not
going
to
have
to
post
this
this
this
isn't
requiring
us
to
post
anything
again.
This
is
a
public.
E
L
K
L
If
you,
if
you
have
a
at
your
insurance
business,
if
you
have
a
men
and
women's
restroom
with
multiple
stalls
in
each
room
and
you
are
making
that
either
by
permission
or
not
available
to
the
public,
yes,
you
would
probably
have
to
put
the
sign
up,
but
then
it
becomes
a
public
restroom,
but
in
most
businesses
small
businesses
they
don't
have.
They
either
have
one
restroom
or
two
and
there's
just
one
single
toilet
and
or
the
one
single
stall
in
the
facility
that
would
not
be
covered.
You
would
not
have
to
put
a
sign
up.
E
Thank
chair,
lady
and
I
get
it
that
yeah.
I
I'm
certainly
going
to
support
this.
A
couple
of
other
questions,
though
tml.
Of
course
we
all
know
tennessee
municipal
league
tennessee,
county
service
association
have
have
they
have
they
addressed
this.
I
guess
they
have
you
heard
from
them
or
they
deferred.
On
this
I
take
it.
I
know
the
I
see
that
the
administration
is
so
no
one's
raising
a
flag
on
this
one
or
are
they
from
the
other?
Two
to
you,
you're
recognized.
L
E
I
B
L
I'm
I'm
always
I'm
always
anxious
to
engage
and
every
time
I
think
you're
finished
I
want
to,
but
I
have
had
a
long-standing
practice,
and
this
legislature
has
that
we
shouldn't
wait
for
people's
rights
to
be
abused.
L
We
should
head
it
off
the
past
and
give
them
protections
so
that
there
isn't
a
rape
or
there
isn't
an
attack
in
a
facility
like
this
or
someone's
rights
isn't
infringed
and
with
the
new
executive
orders
that
are
and
new
legislation
proposed
in
congress,
I
like
giving
transgenders
rights
and
extending
those
rights
and
again
this
is
not
aimed
at
transgenders
it's
aimed
at
someone
who
could
take
advantage
of
such
a
policy
that
we're
just
protecting
people.
I
don't
want.
A
I
I
L
Well,
like
I
said,
I'm
doing
this
to
protect
people,
we
pass
policies
up
here
and
I'm
I'm,
I
think
no
one
would
on
either
side.
I
would
would
argue
that
I'm
I'm
rather
conservative
on
most
of
my
issues-
physical
and
social,
but
I'm
also
someone
who's
reasonable.
When
I
try
to
thank
things
out-
and
I
push
things
to
protect
people
and
hold
people
accountable,
one
of
the
jobs
that
the
legislature
has
is
not
just
to
deregulate,
but
also
when
needed,
to
regulate
to
protect
people.
H
Thank
you,
chair,
lady,
and
thank
you
representative
rod.
My
question
is
this:
is
it
necessary
to
post
it
on
the
outside
entrance
of
a
building?
I
mean
I
understand
that
we
would
post
it
at
the
restrooms
just
like
when
we
see
the
pictures
of
the
girl
in
the
dress
and
the
boy
in
the
pants.
So
I
understand
that
we
would
post
it
there.
H
L
The
reason
why
I'm
the
only
reason
why
it's
on
the
outside
is
because,
very
often,
if
you
go
into
a
store,
whether
it
be
a
a
big
box
store
or
a
drugstore
or
a
dress,
shop
or
men's
store
or
anything
you
often
if
your
child
asks
to
go
the
restroom.
You
say
it's
right
back
through
there.
You
don't
follow
the
child
back
to
the
restroom
and
see
the
door.
You
just
send
them
back
there.
You
may
then
walk
to
the
hall
say
the
men's
room
is
right.
L
There,
the
women's
rooms
right
there,
we're
not
talking
about
a
six-year-old,
maybe
talk
about
a
14
15
year
old
or
a
10
year
old.
If
the
parent
has
that
doesn't
have
opportunity
to
say
that's
a
policy
going
into
the
store,
they
may
just
send
their
child
back
there
and
not
know.
Plus
you
need
the
opportunity.
L
And
if
I
may
say
we've
also
when
we
wrote
this
with
legal,
we
didn't
put
a
brazen
sign
up
where
it
says
you
know:
alert
safety
hazard,
it's
notice.
We've
tried
to
be
as
kind
as
possible
to
the
business,
but
yet
so
people
will
at
least
read
it
so
that
they
know
we've
made
the
effort
if
they
don't
at
least
we've
tried.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members.
What
this
bill
does
is
requires
law
enforcement
officers
to
satisfactorily
complete
a
diversity,
training
program
created
by
the
peace
office,
officer
standards
and
training
commission.
M
This
will
be
in
accord
with
training
that
they
already
receive,
and
what
this
part
of
the
intent
is
to
assist
in
de-escalation
of
in
interaction
between
citizens
and
police
officers,
and
the
hope
is
that
the
a
better
relationship
will
be
a
result
of
it,
and
I
I
don't
want
to
bring
in
a
lot
of
things
that
we
say
have
happened
across
the
nation,
but
we
have
to
be
mindful
of
incidents
in
regards
to
what
is
perceived
as
racial
unrest
and
things
of
this
nature,
and-
and
we
want
our
officers
to
have
all
of
the-
I
guess
quivers
in
there
in
a
box
that
they
can
use
to
de-escalate
a
situation
before
it
gets
out
of
hand.
E
Lady
representative
hakeem,
I
I'm
confused
so
okay
get.
Let's
straighten
me
up
here
in
the
caption.
It
reads
that
it
requires
just
as
you
introduced
it
where
there
would
be,
it
would
require
our
enforcement
officers
to
satisfactory
complete
a
diversity
training
program
created
by
the
by
this
commission
peace
officer
standards.
Commission,
then,
in
the
summary
on
my
mark
calendar
it.
It
states
that
the
present
law
general
generally
requires
that
the
law
enforcement
officers
hired
owner
after
this
certain
date
must
enroll
in
the
peace
officer,
standard
training,
post,
commission.
E
M
Sir,
what,
oh
I'm
sorry,
madam
chair.
M
Okay,
thank
you.
What
we're
saying
is
we
have
to
consider
that
what
we
have
in
place
may
not
be
sufficient.
What
I
mean
by
that?
If
there
are
instances
where
officers
are
in
a
community
and
and
the
relationships
between
the
officers
and
and
the
community
are
not
maybe
what
they're
supposed
to
be,
maybe
some
of
it
is
the
training
that
our
officers
are
not
getting
complete.
M
The
complete
training
that
is
needed,
we're
saying
is
bottom
line
is
for
officers
to
know
the
people
or
the
environment
or
the
culture
somewhat
of
the
people,
they're
policing,
so
that
instances
to
lessen
instances
where
things
got
out
of
hand.
You
know
quickly
and
here
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
we've
had
situations
where
shootings
and
other
things
that
nature
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
minimize
the
shootings
and
also
build
when
we
say,
build
that
better
relationship.
M
There's
a
problem
right
now
in
attracting
minority
officers
or
persons
to
be
get
into
the
academies
and
so
forth
because
of
some
of
the
perceptions
in
policing,
and
if
we
want
to
change
that,
the
community
is
going
to
have
to
feel
like
that.
There's
an
outreach
by
us
training
officers
in
assisting
them
to
de-escalate
situations.
E
Thank
you
cheerleader,
your
intent.
I
see.
However,
I
not
you
know
with
all
respect.
I
I
just
think
we're
you
know
it's
already
there,
I'm
not
going
to
go
to
the
and
turn
to
the
chair
and
ask
permission
for
our
legal
to
to
to
bring
forth
his
opinion,
but
I'll
with
all
respect,
I'll
I'll
be
voting
no
on
this.
I
just
I
just
feel
that
there's
a
duplication
and-
and
and
thank
you,
though,
sponsor
for
that
and
and
thank
you
chair,
lady
representative.
M
You're
right,
the
the
the
information
that
you
spoke
of
what
is
already
in
place.
It
says
awareness,
training
and
what
we're
talking
about
is
expanding
beyond
that,
so
that
there's
in
a
a
broader
understanding
of
the
communities
they
serve
and
with
the
intent
of
bringing
about
this
yeah
de-escalating
the
situation
before
it
gets
out
of
hand.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
lady,
and
that's
sort
of
my
question
too
representative.
I
just
wondered:
if
you
had
spoken
to
the
post
post,
a
peace
officer,
standard
training
commission
about
this,
and
if
they
did,
they
say
they
already
do
it
or
this
is
something
they
want
to
incorporate
in
their
training
now,
or
did
you
have
discussion
with
them.
M
I
not
this
year.
I
have
presented
this
before
when
I
two
years
ago,
when
I
first
got
here
and
there
were
what
they
call
red
flags
all
over
the
place.
That's
what
I
was
told
and
what
I
attempted
to
do
was
to
modify
what
we're
presenting
to
be
more
amenable
now
this
year.
No
one
has
approached
me
from
post
with
a
concern
in
regards
to
what
we're
presenting
at
this
time,
and
so
that's
why
speaker,
marshall,.
I
I
would
just
really
think
that
they're
already
doing
this,
I
mean
I,
I
think
they
know
as
much
as
you
and
we
all
know
the
problems
that
we've
had
in
the
country
and
that
they
would
be
right
on
top
of
making
sure
they're
doing
everything
possible
to
keep
them
out
of
trouble
and
to
train
their
officers
to
know
how
to
handle
all
situations.
I
just
feel
like
it's
like
representative
keisling.
This
is
probably
already
happening.
M
All
right,
yes
ma'am!
I
I
appreciate
what
both
of
you
have
to
say,
but
when
we
have
situations,
even
here
in
tennessee,
where
cities
or
counties
are
going
to
have
to
pay
out
sums
of
money
for
actions
taken
by
police,
that
could
have
maybe
been
handled
in
a
different
way.
D
Yeah,
I
thank
you,
chairman
of
cheerleading,
I'm
trying
to
determine
from
what
I
understand
about
a
limited
understanding
of
post.
Is
that
posts
they
they
certify
training?
Yes,
sir
right
they'll
actually
conduct
training.
So
is
this
saying
that
the
training
that
that
they
will
certify
needs
to
have
diversity,
training
in
it
or
you're,
asking
the
post
to
actually
do
training?
D
M
D
D
Sorry,
well,
it
says
the
bill
requires
the
post
to
develop
and
continue
educating
training.
Yes,
sir,
so
but
you're
not
saying
the
posts
themselves
have
to
do
the
training,
no.
M
M
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you,
chair
lady
and
members.
A
A
J
I
do
have
an
amendment
and
thank
you
for
that
motion
and
second,
I
was
a
little
concerned
for
a
few
moments
there
as
everybody
transitions.
The
drafting
code
on
the
amendment
is
four
four.
Five,
two.
J
Okay,
what
the
amendment
does
is
change.
One
shall
demaid
make
sure
that
this
is
all
permissive
and
it
removes
higher
education
from
the
legislation,
because
they're
already
doing
this
in
many
locations,
so
we're
not
trying
to
reinvent
what
higher
education
is
already
doing
and
providing
to
employees.
So
that's
the
amendment.
E
Thank
you
again,
chair
lady,
let's,
let's
do
it
again,
chairman
leatherwood,
explain
that
to
me
again
now,
okay,
now
to
us
rather.
E
M
E
J
To
employees
now
some
institutions
of
higher
education
they're
already
doing
this,
so
they
didn't
want
to
be
limited
to
the
parameters,
if
limited
as
the
right
term,
restricted
to
the
parameters
within
the
bill
itself.
So
they
wanted
to
be
removed
from
the
bill,
and
so
that's
what
part
of
the
amendment
here
does,
but.
J
Into
effect,
you
know
if
there
is
state
space
available
contingent.
J
A
J
E
A
A
E
Okay,
okay,
we're
back
in
session,
and
we
are
now
as
cheerleading
stated.
We
now
are
on
item
13
house
bill.
5
31..
Do
I
hear
a
motion?
I
do
got
a
second
okay
chair,
lady
you're
you're
recognized.
Thank.
A
You
chairman
kiesling,
this
bill
was
brought
to
me
by
the
treasury
department.
It's
a
tcrs
housekeeping
bill.
We
received
a
positive
recommendation
in
pensions
and
insurance,
and
this
bill
just
revises
provisions
governing
the
state
retirement
system
as
follows:
section
one
and
four,
the
bill
amends
current
law
to
reflect.
The
federal
law
recently
changed
the
minimum
required
age
from
seventy
and
a
half
to
seventy
two
section.
Two
of
the
bill
adds
language
back
that
was
inadvertently
deleted
on
a
prior
bill.
It
is
a
cleanup
change.
A
A
Section
5
of
the
bill
amends
current
law
to
reflect
long-standing,
tcrs
practice
as
to
prior
service
established
near
the
date
of
retirement.
The
section
provides
that
for
prior
service
established
30
or
more
days
following
the
date
of
retirement,
a
second
benefit
is
calculated
and
section.
6
amends
current
law
to
clarify
that,
when
members
elect
to
pay
for
prior
service
in
monthly
installments,
the
payment
period
may
not
exceed
the
length
of
service
being
established,
and
that's
all
it
does.
E
All
right,
very
good
explanation:
committee
we
have
with
standing
by
just
in
case
and
that
the
at
the
pleasure
we
have
roy
west
from
if
no
from
treasury
here,
just
in
case
now,
chair
lady
well,
we've
got
okay.
We've
got
a
question
on
the
bill.
So
with
that,
I
see
no
objections
to
the
calling
of
the
question.
Those
in
favor
will
vote
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye.
Those
opposed
like
sign
and
the
eyes
have
it
and
house
bill
531.