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House Transportation Committee- March 3, 2021
A
A
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
Any
personal
orders
from
committee
members
seeing
none
members,
we
do
have
a
short
calendar
and
we're
going
to
try
to
move
these
bills
along
as
rapidly
as
possible.
If
you
have
any
questions,
of
course,
be
feel
free
to
ask
the
sponsors,
but
at
the
end
of
the
calendar,
the
department
of
transportation
and
commissioner
bright
will
be.
They
are
here,
in
fact,
to
give
us
an
update
on
several
items
that
will
be
of
interest
to
this
committee.
A
So
without
objection,
we'll
take
up
item
number
one
chairman,
halsey
house,
bill
165,
chairman
halsey,
you're
recognized.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
have
a
motion
in
a
second
and
thank
you.
Committee.
C
A
C
Yes,
when
we
passed
this
last
year,
we
passed
this
very
same
bill
last
year
and
there
was
some
confusion
in
the
wording
when
they
came
out
with
the
bill.
This
time
they
put
bt,
bravo
tango
to
be
the
first
two
letters
and
then
five
numbers,
and
then
then
they
discovered
that
there
was
already
a
bt
tag,
so
they
had
to
change
it
and
make
it
be.
Bravo:
delta,
bd
and
that's
what
the
amendment
does.
A
C
Year,
when
you,
when
we
passed
this,
the
wording
was
a
little
confusing
in
the
bill
and
it
caused
clerks
a
lot
of
problems.
They
thought
only
the
manufacturer
could
get
the
tag,
not
the
people
who
actually
deliver
the
boats,
so
they
went
back
and
reworded
it
to
show
that
these
folks
can
purchase
this
tag
as
well,
and
that's
all
it
is
okay.
A
Question
has
been
called
on
the
bill
without
objection,
we
will
vote
on
house
bill,
107
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
all
opposed,
nay
eyes
have
it
your
bill
passes
and
goes
to
finance
committee.
Sir
chairman
of
committee,
thank
you
very
much
committee.
We
are
now
on
item
number
two
on
your
calendar
house
bill
64.,
chairman
lafferty.
You
will
recognize,
sir.
C
You,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
committee.
I
believe
everybody's
heard
this
once
before,
but
basically,
what
we're
doing
here
we're
streamlining,
which
is
always
a
good
thing
in
government,
currently,
automobile
clubs
or
associations,
have
to
file
a
for
a
new
certificate
of
authority
every
year.
This
bill
allows
the
automobile
clubs
and
the
associations
to
apply
for
the
renewal
rather
than
a
new
certificate,
which
translates
into
just
updating
whatever
information
is
needed.
A
A
A
C
Thank
you
chairman
members
of
committee.
This
bill
creates
the
2021
precious
cargo
act
and
what
this
bill
does
is
it
allows
people
when
they
register
for
their
vehicle
registration
system
if
they
have
a
special
need
which
hampers
their
ability
to
communicate
with
law
enforcement,
they
can
register
their
car
in
the
state
database.
So
if
a
member
of
law
enforcement
pulls
them
over
on
the
screen
of
their
patrol
car
it'll
register
that
they
have
a
special
need
which
may
hamper
their
communication
ability,
we
also
amended
it
in
subcommittee
to
say
if
you
have
a
physical.
C
Condition
that
would
hamper
the
speed
at
which
you
exit
a
vehicle.
That
also
would
be
noted.
This
simply
gives
a
tool
for
citizens
to
communicate.
Some
special
needs
with
law
enforcement
to
help
on
some
situations,
maybe
late
at
night,
or
that
may
put
them
in
a
position
to
have
a
stop
that
doesn't
go
as
planned.
A
I
believe
you
explained
the
amendment
in
your
comments
there,
so
we're
voting
on
adding
the
amendment
to
house
bill
40
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
all
opposed,
nay.
Amendment
is
on
the
bill.
Any
further
comments
from
the
sponsor
any
questions
from
the
committee
question
has
been
called
all
in
favor
of
house
bill.
40,
please
say
aye
aye,
all
opposed,
nay
eyes
have
it.
Your
bill
goes
to
calendar
real,
sir.
A
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
is
house
bill
101
to
classify
wheelchairs
as
not
being
a
moving
vehicle.
A
We
have
a
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second
any
questions
for
the
sponsor
hearing?
None
we're
voting
on
house
bill,
101,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
all
opposed,
nay,
I
have
it.
The
bill
goes
to
calendar
and
rules
on
the
calendar.
Number
five
house
bill
92
by
speaker
marsh.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
pro
tem
march.
I'm
sorry!
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
F
F
This
bill
would
allow
tdot
to
send
the
notices
by
email
rather
than
certified
mail
email
will
speed
up
the
process
and
reduce
postage
costs
bill
would
save
tdot
over
sixty
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
reduced
postage
costs.
This
bill
has
also
been
requested
by
the
utilities
who
prefer
to
get
email
rather
than
a
certified
mail.
Well,
that'll
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
A
Good
bill
any
questions
for
the
sponsor.
We
have
a
question
on
the
bill.
Without
objection,
we're
voting
on
house
bill,
92,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
aye,
all
opposed,
nay
eyes
have
it.
The
bill
goes
to
a
finance
committee
and
we're
now
on
number
six
house
bill.
88,
chairman
kiesling,
you're
recognized.
G
If
I
may
thank
you
chairman,
if
I
may,
may
I
remain
here
rather
than
the
the
podium?
Yes,
thank
you,
sir
house
bill.
88
members
bottom
line
revises
the
stipulations.
Private
entities
must
comply
to
conduct,
driver
education
courses
and
community
ed
courses.
Now
a
brief
summary
of
this.
The
bill
removes
outdated
code
requirements
within
the
department
of
safety's
driver
safety
and
child
safety
courses.
G
Currently,
our
code
requires
that
both
courses
meet
all
of
the
requirements.
Probation
supervisors
within
commerce
and
interest
is
code
section.
The
courses
used
for
driver
safety
and
child
restraint
safety
do
not
need
to
meet
the
40
plus
requirements.
That's
laid
down
right
now.
These
courses
are
meant
for
people
who
receive
traffic
citations
and
the
department
has
pulled
the
most
relevant
relevant
requirements
from
the
current
code.
That
should
be
required
for
these
businesses
that
offer
driver
safety
and
child
safety
courses.
Mr
chairman,
with
that
I
will
entertain
any
questions.
G
However,
there
I
think
your
office
did
receive
a
request
that,
just
in
case
something
that
comes
up,
that
that
kiesling
can't
answer
we
do
have
representation
out
in
the
audience
from
the
department
just
in
case,
but
with
that
again
chairman,
I
will
entertain
any
questions.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
chairman.
I
do
have
a
motion
a
second
on
the
bill,
any
questions
for
the
sponsor
any
objection
to
voting
on
house
bill,
88,
hearing,
none
we're
voting
on
house
bill,
88,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
all
opposed,
nay
eyes
have
it.
The
bill
goes
to
calendar
and
rules.
Chairman
number,
seven
on
your
calendar
house
bill
87
by
representative
russell.
A
A
G
That's
fine
chairman
committee
members.
This
bill
revises
various
provisions
regarding
the
material
used
to
issue
driver's
license
and
identification
credentials.
The
department
of
safety
is
currently
limited
to
only
being
able
to
produce
laminated
color
photo
licenses
due
to
constantly
changing
technology.
The
department
would
like
the
ability
to
use
color,
black
and
white,
laminated,
polycarbonate
or
other
types
of
materials
or
graphics
to
issue
driver's
license
or
other
credentials,
and
I
believe
somebody
is
here
from
the
department
to
testify.
If
we
have
any
questions.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
motion.
Second,
on
the
bill,
any
questions
for
the
sponsor,
seeing
none
we're
voting
on
house
bill,
87,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
all
opposed,
nay
eyes
have
it.
The
bill
goes
to
calendar
and
rules.
Thank
you.
Number.
Eight
on
your
calendar
also
representative,
russell
you're,
recognized
house
bill.
175
have
a
motion
in
second.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee
members
house
bill
175,
just
clarifies
the
mounting
or
placement
of
a
trailer
hitch
ball
in
front
of
a
registration
plate
will
not
be
considered
when
making
the
determination
whether
the
registration
plate
is
clearly
visible.
Just
says
your
trailer
hitch
ball
can't
be
a
reason
to
stop
a
driver.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
motion
in
second
on
the
bill.
Any
questions
for
the
sponsor
question
has
been
called
on
the
bill.
All
in
favor
of
voting
on
175,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
all
opposed,
nay,
I
have
it.
The
bill
goes
to
calendar
and
rules.
A
G
House
bill
234
is
just
a
cleanup
in
the
language
because
it
was
confusing.
It
clarifies
that
the
existing
requirement
for
drivers
and
motorcycles
to
wear
a
helmet
applies
to
drivers
of
auto
cycles
that
are
not
fully
enclosed.
What
happened
was,
as
people
were
getting
tickets
because
they
couldn't
understand
the
law,
so
it
just
makes
it
easier
to
read
and
understand.
Does
not
change
one
thing
about
it
other
than
those
two
things
all
right.
Any
questions.
A
A
Thank
you.
This
is
an
administration
bill
and
it
does
four
things.
A
very
simple
bill
changes,
two
statutory
weight
classes
for
purposes
of
determining
determining
the
tax
that
is
due
at
the
time
of
registration
and
renewal.
It
allows
the
department
to
issue
renewal
decals
instead
of
having
to
buy
a
complete
new
big
license
plates
every
year.
It
updates
the
statute
to
reflect
that
county
clerks
issue
off
highway
temporary
permits,
which
is
what
they're
currently
doing,
and
it
updates
a
department
of
revenue,
job
title
from
taxpayer
and
vehicle
services
director
to
vehicle
services.
C
Question
on
the
bill,
we
now
will
now
be
voting
on
on
house
bill
86
all
in
favor,
say.
Aye
aye,
though
opposed
the
house,
the
house
moves
on
to
calendar
and
rules
that
moves
on
to
finance
I'll
now.
A
Thank
you,
chairman
hall
members,
that
is
the
end
of
our
calendar
and
we
are
pleased
to
have
some
very
special
guests
with
us
today.
It's
always
good
to
have
commissioner
bright
in
committee,
and
we
had
scheduled
a
presentation
and
an
update
on
the
improve
act
which
I
know
of
the
improve
act
impacts
every
one
of
our
counties
and
every
one
of
our
districts,
and
so
we
had
him
on
the
calendar
and
then
something
happened.
H
Thank
you,
chairman
howell.
I
would
like
to
do
our
own
roll
call,
so
you've
got
some
familiar
faces
up
here
and
you've
got
some
unfor
for
me,
your
faces,
obviously
to
my
right,
mr
paul
deggs.
Our
chief
engineer,
which
you
know
very
well
to
my
left,
is
joe
galbato
chief
financial
officer
on
the
other
side
of
him
is
jay
norris.
He
heads
up
our
department
of
safety
and
I
wanted
him
to
speak
to
you
a
little
bit
about
some
work
zone
safety
that
we've
got
going
on
back
behind.
Jay
is
preston
elliott.
H
He
is
a
new
face
to
you.
He
oversees
his
deputy
commissioner
and
oversees
long-range
planning
and
our
environmental
division
and
then
to
his
right
is
michelle
fraser
and
she's
our
director
of
aeronautics,
so
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
aeronautics
since
there's
some
money
in
the
budget
this
year
for
aeronautics
so
before.
I
turn
it
over
to
joe
to
talk
about
the
budget
and
an
overview
and
paul's
going
to
talk
about
that.
H
Also,
along
with
the
other
people
I
just
introduced,
you
mentioned
the
snow
and
ice,
so
I
continue
to
be
very
in
all
what
tdot
does
or
amazed
or
whatever
humble
that,
what
all
our
people
do.
So,
as
you
mentioned
snow
and
ice,
so
I
had
the
opportunity
to
watch
those
folks
working
around
the
clock,
guys
and
girls
and
we
probably
had
close
to
a
thousand
people.
H
So
at
one
point
I
looked
on
the
map
and
we
had
snow
from
memphis
all
the
way
over
to
knoxville,
so
it
was
probably
one
of
the
largest
snow
events.
We've
ever
had
as
far
as
snowing
ice
and
pushing
it
off
the
road
and
treating
it
and
all
the
stuff
we
do
and
those
guys
were
working
16
hour
days,
eight
hours
off,
they
were
sleeping
in
the
garages
and
the
regions
and
the
districts.
There
were
folks
in
the
garages
cooking
food.
All
the
mechanics
were
on
staff.
H
They
were
making
sure
the
blades
on
the
snow,
plows
were
were
tuned
up.
The
trucks
were
running
so
for
me
to
see
all
that
going
on.
It
was
humbling-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
the
support
that
y'all
give
us
at
tdot
to
do
what
we
do
and
enable
these
people
to
do
what
they
do
for
the
state
of
tennessee.
So
I
appreciate
that
continued
support
and
you
can
tell
I'm
pretty
darn
proud
and
I
hopefully
you're
proud.
As
far
as
your
involvement
in
what
you're.
A
Commissioned,
if
I
may
just
briefly
interrupt,
let
me
see
how
proud
I
was
as
chairman
of
this
committee
I've.
I
got
emails
from
all
across
the
state
of
tennessee
people
expressing
their
gratitude
for
the
job
that
tdot
was
doing
on
our
on
our
highways
and
that
just
that
speaks
volumes
for
you
and
your
staff,
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
J
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee,
joe
galbato
deputy
commissioner
chief
financial
officer.
So
we've
got
a
lot
to
cover.
We
actually
covered
this
with
senate
transportation.
This
morning
thought
it
was
only
fair
for
you
to
see
the
exact
same
presentation.
So
if
we
go
to
the
first
slide,
first
slide
is
a
high
level
analysis
of
our
budget.
Variances
on
on
the
revenue
side
between
fiscal
21
and
fiscal
22
federal
will
be
down
about
6
million.
The
state
will
be
up
about
114
million
and
local
revenue
will
be
about
the
same.
J
The
next
three
slides
I'll
talk
about
the
variances
very
quickly.
So,
on
the
federal
side,
pretty
simple
to
understand,
there
was
spillover
of
about
six
million
dollars
from
the
cares
act
on
federal
transit
from
fiscal
20
to
21.
There's
no
such
spillover
between
21
and
22
digest
here.
So
the
state
user
fees
you
can
see
will
be
down
year
over
year
about
23
million
dollars
when
the
funding
board
and
they
put
our
projections
together
for
us
when
they
put
the
projections
together
in
fiscal
21,
we
felt
that
they
were
a
little
bit
aggressive.
J
The
next
three
bullet
points
discuss
the
one-time
general
fund,
infusions,
that
the
governor
has
proposed
85
million
for
our
rail
program
and
then
on
the
local
revenue
slide,
as
I've
said
before,
there's
really
not
a
big
change
in
the
local
revenue.
Our
program
operations
folks
look
at
all
of
the
different
projects
and
determine
what
the
federal
match
will
be
all
right.
So
here's
the
money
slide
a
lot
of
information
here,
but
I
can
make
it
very
simple
for
everybody
I'll
talk
about
the
columns
first
and
then
the
rows
next,
the
first
column
is
fiscal
19..
J
The
reason
I
wanted
that
here
was
because
that
is
the
last
year
of
no
covet
impact
in
fiscal
20.
We
had
two
months
of
covet
impact
in
may
and
june
and
then,
of
course,
the
budgets
for
21
and
22..
So
let
me
take
you
through
the
intricacies
of
the
line
items
so
on
gasoline.
As
you
can
see,
we
were
allotted
509
million
in
2019
that
dropped
in
2020
to
505..
J
The
reason
that
dropped
was
totally
because
of
covid,
and
if
you
as
you
remember
the
fast
act,
I
mean
I'm
sorry
the
improve
act
on
the
state
side,
phased
in
gas,
diesel
propane
and
natural
gas
fees
18.
So
then
you
can
see
growing
to
5
34
the
next
year
why
we
thought
it
was
just
a
bit
aggressive.
Now
in
fiscal
22,
the
funding
board
has
lowered
it
down
to
514,
which
is
good.
J
The
problem
we
see
right
now
is,
as
I
look
at
collections
as
of
today,
we're
trending
toward
470
to
480.,
so
that
number
looks
a
bit
aggressive
on
the
diesel
side.
The
good
news
is
on
the
trucking
industry.
Diesel
was
not
impacted
a
whole
lot
by
covid,
so
the
186
million
you
see
growing
to
210.
That
was
because
of
the
final
three
cent
increase
on
the
diesel
tax
so
took
us
to
210..
J
The
217
that
is
in
2021
is
tracking
right
toward
what
we
see
today,
so
the
funding
board,
keeping
that
same
217
as
a
budget
is
a
bit
conservative,
but
that's
good
because,
as
I
said,
if
I've
got
downside
possibility
on
gas,
I've
got
upside
on
diesel
special
petroleum.
That's
our
1.4
cent
tax,
the
one
cent
on
petroleum
and
volatile
fuels
and
another
four
tenths
for
the
environmental
insurance
fee
for
underground
storage
tank
regulation
always
hangs
in
the
mid
30s
vehicle
registration
was
also
impacted.
By
covet.
You
can
see
we
collected
286
and
fiscal
19.
J
It
dropped
278,
not
because
cars
and
trucks
were
fewer
in
tennessee,
but
because
there
was
a
spillover
of
some
of
those
registration
fees
into
fiscal
21.,
so
the
293
and
fiscal
21.
We
are
trending
toward
that
number,
but
again
for
fiscal,
21
fees
and
some
spillover
from
20..
So
that
makes
our
22
number
pretty
good
beer
and
bottle
tax
is
always
somewhere
between
six
and
seven
million.
So
that's
not
changing
and
then,
as
you
all
can
see
as
a
sore
thumb
on
the
transmission
equity
fund,
the
big
blip
in
2020.
J
J
So
our
next
slide,
we'd
like
to
bring
this
up
to
every
year,
we're
very
proud
we're
pretty
well
managed
financially
at
tdot.
We
are
one
of
the
few
dots
that
spend
two
percent
or
less
on
administration,
and
the
vast
majority
of
our
funds
go
back
to
the
citizens
in
the
form
of
construction
maintenance
and
grants.
J
This
past
year,
88
percent
was
our
five-year
long-term
funding
bill.
It
expired
september
of
2020..
We
did
not
get
a
long-term
bill,
but
we
did
get
a
one-year
extension
and
I'll
discuss
that
in
a
moment.
I
want
to
impress
upon
everybody
that
states
need
long-term
funding
for
our
viability
as
far
as
the
continuity
and
project
planning,
but
what
I
will
tell
you,
as
your
cfo
that
it's
just
as
important,
if
not
more
important,
for
to
have
stable
and
reliable
funding.
J
So
today,
no
no
surprise
to
people
washington
gives
out
more
than
it
gets
in,
so
it
actually
required
a
14
billion
dollar
infusion
from
the
general
fund
to
keep
the
highway
trust
fund
in
washington
solvent
so
under
any
definition.
Stable
and
reliable
funding
would
not
mean
one-time
arbitrary
infusions,
but
be
about
one
or
two.
So
we
have
all
of
our
apportionment
all
of
our
obligational
limitations,
so
we
are
good
to
go
and
there'll
be
nothing
delayed
in
2021.
J
last
note:
the
asheville
states
is
all
the
states
in
asheville
are
pushing
for
a
long-term
bill,
but
I'll
caution.
You
a
five-year
bill
at
current
funding,
is
a
problem
and
then
lastly,
we
thank
you,
previous
legislators,
previous
governors
and
certainly
governor
lee,
for
keeping
us
debt
free.
So
it's
very
it's
much
easier
as
a
cfo
to
manage
our
finances
when
I
don't
have
to
take
cares
act.
So,
as
you
know,
we
are
funded
federally
by
federal,
highway
federal
way,
but
we
did
get
it
for
transit
and
aviation.
So
I
want
to
cover
that
quickly.
J
Majority
of
that
went
to
our
major
transit
agencies
in
memphis,
knoxville,
nashville
and
chattanooga,
but
95
million
did
go
to
small
urban
and
rural
transit
agencies
across
the
state.
So
the
intent
of
this
was
to
keep
keep
these
transit
agencies
running,
obviously,
fare
box
revenues
will
be
down
during
covet,
as
they
still
are,
and
other
revenues
are
down.
So
this
is
meant
to
to
plug
plug
the
hole
in
in
the
in
the
boat
there,
so
they
used
it
for
operating
expenses,
salaries,
etc.
J
We
complied
at
tdot
with
the
legislative
directive
back
in
may
and
june
of
cutting
heads.
We
cut
20
heads
out
of
our
our
staff
of
our
compliment
because
of
that.
We
also
three
heads
previous
to
that
for
the
same
legislative
intent,
but
I
want
to
impart
on
you
also
you're,
constantly
giving
different
head
count
to
different
state
agencies
for
the
shared
service
initiative.
J
Lastly,
we're
very
proud
of
what
we've
done
as
far
as
cobit,
and
that
would
be
a
nice
segue
to
this
slide.
As
you
noticed
everyone
during
covid,
our
regional
and
district
people,
everybody
went
to
work
just
as
normal.
Our
maintenance
construction
helped
help
truck
all
those
folks
work
just
as
normal,
but
they
had
safety
protocols
in
place.
So,
instead
of
having
three
four
and
five
people
in
a
vehicle,
we
had
one
maybe
two:
we
had
new
cleaning
supplies
new
ppe,
so
we
did
things
as
safe
as
we
possibly
could,
and
I
do
want
to
brag.
J
They
are
in
my
bureau,
but
I
do
want
to
brag
on
information
technology
rit
folks
long
before
cobit
was
even
thought
of
made
sure
that
everybody
at
tdot,
at
headquarters
across
the
street
at
the
polk
building,
had
either
tablet
a
laptop
had
connectivity.
So
when
the
directive
came
from
the
commissioner
and
the
governor
for
us
to
go
home,
we
really
didn't
miss
a
beat,
and
so
I
want
to
just
thank
them.
For
that.
Many
other
state
dots.
J
So,
lastly,
I'll
and
I'll
before
I
pass
this
over
to
commissioner
and
paul
on
the
backstop
funding.
So,
as
I
said,
the
federal
highway
got
no
care
zach
money,
but
they
did
get
backstop
funding.
Let's
be
very
clear,
so
backstop
funding
is
not
stimulus.
Stimulus
is
to
start
new
things
and
to
to
invigorate
everything.
The
backstop
funding
is
the
same
intent
as
to
keep
us
running.
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
our
user
fees
have
been
down
in
fiscal
20.
They
were
down
by
33
million
dollars.
J
Our
projections
right
now
for
fiscal
21
is
that
they'll
be
down
somewhere
around
75
to
100
million.
We
expect
cobit
impacts
to
continue
into
22,
which
means,
cumulatively,
we
will
be
down
somewhere
between
180
and
220
million
dollars,
so
this
money
basically
allows
us
to
cuts
that
we
were
going
to
have
to
make
whether
it
was
to
projects
or
to
maintenance
activities.
A
K
K
J
For
fiscal,
if
you're,
actually
down
33
million
dollars
in
gas
diesel
vehicle
registration
that
that
number
in
fisk
21
we're
projecting
to
be
anywhere
between
75
and
100,
it's
trending
towards
75..
Now
the
good
news
I'll
bring
up
when
this
first
hit.
We
actually
thought
it
could
be
upwards
of
200
million.
You
remember
kobe,
but
it
had
everything
went
darn
year
in
half,
so
we
thought
we
could
have
really
big
problems,
so
it's
75
to
100
million
this
year
and
we
think
it'll
be
75
to
100
million
next
year.
J
K
And
do
you
excuse
me
and
do
you
you
said
something
about
some
projects?
Would
just
would
they
be
on
hold?
Would
they
be?
I
know
you're
not
gonna,
get
rid
of
the
nine.
How
many
projects
are
left
on
that
improve
act
right
now?
Well,.
J
A
J
A
You're
welcome-
and
I
might
sam
just
pointed
out
to
me
that
that
information
that
you're
seeking
is
on
his
laptop
or
ipad.
So
it's
in
the
package,
if
you
want
to
look
online
on
the
it's
on
the
dashboard,
it's
on
the
dashboard.
Thank
you.
I'm
sorry
for
the
interruption,
paul
you're
recognizing.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
it
is
the
discussion
that
was
just
had
talked
about
the
the
short
shortage
in
our
program.
So
before
the
this
they
call
it
the
chrisa
funding
the
coveted
relief
funding
that
the
feds
passed
that
was
passed
on
like
december
27th,
but
earlier
in
the
fiscal
year
we
had
to
make
decisions.
As
joe
mentioned,
we
anticipated
cuts
as
much
as
250
million
dollars
in
the
current
fiscal
year,
and
so
we
started
looking
and
we
had
to
make
some
cuts
and
so,
for
instance,
in
our
maintenance
program.
D
We
we
took
a
mowing
cycle
out,
so
we
looked
at
a
lot
of
different
places
to
make
cuts
and
we
cut
several
things
in
our
maintenance
budget.
We
have
a
improve
act,
transit
capital
grants
program
and
then
we
have
projects,
and
so
the
bulk
of
the
cuts
that
we
anticipated
would
have
come
from
the
projects
category.
D
But
when
this
new
funding
became
available
to
us,
we
sat
down
with
the
commissioner
and
department
senior
leadership
and
looked
at
well.
What
do
we
do
now
that
we're
giving
money
we're
getting
kind
of
made
whole?
If
you
will
so,
we
felt
it
would
be
good
to
go
back
and
restore
our
maintenance.
Certainly
if
you,
if
you
defer
maintenance
activities
that
will
cost
you
in
the
long
run.
So
with
the
new
dollars
available
to
us,
we
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
restore
our
routine
maintenance
funding
for
the
improve
act,
transit
grants.
D
D
We
have
about
eight
small
metropolitan
planning
organizations
and
we
felt
that
it
was
the
intent
of
these
federal
dollars
that
it
was
appropriate
to
put
at
the
same
relative
ratio
to
provide
the
small
mpos
with
about
four
million
dollars,
and
then
the
bulk
of
the
money
would
go
toward
large
highway
projects,
the
again
the
stuff
that
you
all
would
expect
to
see.
In
the
improve
act
see
those
projects
are
in
the
improve
act
and
then,
from
a
a
pavement
standpoint
we
have
some
concrete
pavements
about.
D
Two
percent
of
our
network
is
concrete
pavements
and-
and
you
you
can't
do
just
a
resurfacing
project
on
those.
You
got
to
do
big
work
on
those,
so
we
identified
about
40
million
dollars
to
address
some
of
those
concrete
rehab
projects,
then
about
20
million
dollars
to
do
safety
type
projects
across
the
state.
We
do
get
special
safety
funds
from
the
federal
level,
but
the
criteria
to
do
good,
solid
safety
projects
that
might
not
have
the
crash
history
that
allows
us
to
use
some
of
those
federal
dollars
going
on
to
the
next
slide.
D
D
Think
about
our
calendar
year
lettings
last
year,
we
just
a
little
over
one
billion
dollars
in
contracts.
D
So
when
we,
when
we
passed
the
improve
act,
our
letting
totals
started
to
increase
from
about
900
million
dollars
to
somewhere
around
1.1
billion
dollars
was
our
our
the
trajectory
that
we
were.
We
were
headed
to
with
the
the
coronavirus
how
people
interact
with
each
other.
One
of
the
the
areas
that
was
heaviestly
heavily
impacted
was
our
right-of-way
acquisition.
D
If
you
can
imagine,
when
you
buy
somebody's
property,
you
go
meet
with
them
and
talk
with
them,
and
you
have
to
go
record
stuff
at
the
courthouse
and
people
weren't
too
keen
on
us
coming
in
the
front
door.
Some
of
the
courthouses
were
shut
down
for
a
little
bit
back
last
summer,
so
it
put
some
delays
in
our
program,
so
our
leading
totals
were
just
just
over
one
billion
dollars
last
year.
D
Our
projection
is
to
be
up
to
about
1.15
billion
and
that's
where
we're
going
to
probably
plateau
out
with
improve
act
funding
so
we'll
do
a
little
bit
catch
up
this
year.
We're
with
we've
got
processes
in
place
now
allows
us
to
do
more
of
that
right
away,
work
more
remotely,
but
so
we're
catching
back
up
in
that
area.
D
D
Some
of
those
projects,
for
instance
like
there's
two
and
three
pieces,
so
the
962
projects
in
our
system
have
show
up
as
1021
projects
and
of
those
1021
projects
502
or
in
some
phase
of
development
either
are
either
underway
in
some
phase
or
complete
and
and
39
of
them
we
have
yet
to
start.
Yet,
if
you'll
recall,
when
we
passed
the
improve
act,
you
know
we
we
were
anticipating,
maybe
a
15,
to
20
year,
delivery
time.
You
know
in
flight
we're
seeing
inflation
about
five
percent
a
year.
D
D
Next
bill
y'all,
just
talking
I'll
brag
on
chairman
marsh
over
carrying
our
legislation,
y'all
just
heard
some
discussion
on
it,
and
so
I
won't
belabor
that
and
I'll
ask
if
jay
norris
will
next
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
work
zone,
safety,
information.
E
Chairman,
thank
you.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
now
great,
it's
good
to
be
feeling
I'm
jay
norris,
I'm
the
director
of
occupational
health
and
safety
at
tdot,
I'm
going
to
give
you
guys
a
work
zone,
safety
update,
and
so
I've
got
a
slide
up
here.
That
has
four
pictures
on
it
and
we'll
be
moving
top
left
top
right.
Bottom
left.
E
Bottom
right
just
want
to
make
four
points
for
you
all,
and
when
the
pandemic
started,
we
we
saw
the
the
way
motoring
public
was
using
our
transportation
system
drop
off
quite
a
bit,
and
after
six
or
eight
weeks,
people
began
to
enjoy
those
open
roads
and
begin
speeding
as
a
result,
fatalities
increased.
E
We
also
saw
that
people
weren't
wearing
seat
belts,
so
we
had
some
unrestrained
things
going
on
out
there,
and
so
my
first
point
is
this:
is
that
that
bad
behaviors
began
to
be
identified
on
our
transportation
system,
and
so
I
want
to.
I
also
want
to
take
a
second
hearing
caveat
that
tdot
is
in
a
new
reality
when
it
comes
to
how
we're
operating
on
our
system.
So
we
have
1975
new
employees,
we've
hired
in
the
last
three
years.
60
of
our
maintenance
technicians
are
have
been
with
the
department
less
than
five
years.
E
If
you
look
at
the
age
of
our
interstate
system,
it's
over
60
years
old
now
so
we're
having
some
we're
doing.
A
lot
of
maintenance
out
there
and
distracted
driving
continues
to
be
a
challenge.
E
So
if
you
take
those
behaviors
and
look
at
how
the
department's
operating
that
can
be
a
real
challenge
for
us,
so
0.2,
if
you
look
at
the
top
right,
you
can
see
a
work
zone
there
and-
and
my
point
my
point
is
this-
is
that
drivers
are
taking
their
bad
behaviors
through
these
work
zones
and
work
zones
are
interesting
places.
Is
you
have
your
your
width?
Your
lanes
are
reduced.
Sometimes
you
don't
have
shoulders.
You
can
take
a
look
at
the
picture
and
see
the
two
tractor
trailers.
E
There
are
almost
kissing
going
through
a
work
zone
and-
and
this
can
be
a
real
challenge
for
us.
So
the
these
things
not
only
affect
the
driver
at
this
point,
but
we
have
the
road
building
industry
working
these
areas.
Tdot
workers
are
working,
those
areas,
you
know
we
have.
We
have
95
counties
and
we
have
lane
closures
going
on
in
those
in
every
every
county
every
day,
so
that
there's
a
lot
of
these
out
there.
So
point
three
is
in
the
bottom
left.
E
You
see
a
a
physics
equation
up
there
and
that's
actually
the
formula
for
kinetic
energy,
I'm
very
familiar
with
this.
Personally,
because
when
I
was
16
I
got
my
first
speeding
ticket
my
father
as
punishment
made
me
calculate
how
much
kinetic
energy
I
had
during
gender.
He
was
an
engineer
at
tdot,
so
you
know
I
might
have
been
grounded
might
have
been
better,
and
so
in
this
formula,
one-half
mv
squared
the
the
m
is
the
mass
or
the
weight.
The
v
is
the
velocity
or
speed
of
your
vehicle.
E
So
your
your
energy
increases
225
when
you
go
from
50
miles
an
hour
to
75
miles
an
hour
and
that's
how
hard
you're
hitting
something.
So
this
is
a
this
is
a
big
deal,
and
my
third
point
is
this:
is
that
we
are
we're
all
in
the
energy
business
here
is.
Tdot's
role
is
to
design
good
good
traffic
control
plans,
use
attenuators,
make
sure
that
our
maintenance
workers,
our
work
zones
internally,
are
perfect.
E
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
good
standards
for
our
contractors
use
our
road
building
industry.
Their
role
is
to
take
our
plans
and
set
up
and
maintain
good
traffic
control.
Our
law
enforcement
is
to
keep
those
speeds
low,
keep
that
energy
low
and,
finally,
the
motoring
public's
responsibility
is
to
reduce
their
energy
as
they
pass
through
these
systems
and
watch
out
for
their
behaviors.
E
We
want
to
take
that
same
approach
with
our
work
zones,
and
so,
with
the
help
of
the
department
of
safety,
thp
tennessee,
highway
safety
office.
Tennessee
road
builder
association,
we've
formed
a
working
group
to
attack
some
of
these
strategies,
so
we've
got
three.
We've
got
three
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
in
our
charter
and
the
first
is
we
want
to
maximize
safety
of
all
of
our
work
zones.
E
The
second
one
is:
we
want
to
minimize
delay
in
other
negative
operational
aspects,
so
think
about
innovative
technology.
You
know
thing
the
way
we
can
leverage
things
to
make
things
better
and
the
fine.
The
final
is
we
want
to
be
best.
We
want
to
be
best
in
the
nation
at
the
three
e's,
and
so
that's
engineering
enforcement
education,
so
tdot
owns
the
engineering
need
we
want.
We
want
great
standards,
specifications
technology
equipment.
We
want
to
make
sure
our
staff
is
trained
and
equipped
to
do
to
do
what
they
do
perfectly.
E
When
they're
out
there
enforcement
we
want
to
make
sure
they
have
the
absolute
best
resources
and
training
available.
We
want.
We
want
a
destination
here
when
it
comes
to
that
and
the
final
and
finally
is
education
is
we
want
to
make
sure
that
drivers
understand
their
behaviors
and
they
help
control
those?
So
I
finally
I'd
like
to-
I
really
want
to
give
praise
to
the
tennessee
highway
patrol
and
tennessee
road
association
being
part
of
this
partnership
and
can't
say.
D
E
Good
things
about
them,
they're,
incredible
partners,
love
working
with
them,
and
now
I'd
like
to
turn
over
to
michelle
frazier
director
of
aeronautics.
Thank
you.
L
L
L
D
L
All
right
just
continue:
okay.
Well,
I
apologize
that
you,
you
guys,
don't
get
to
see
that
one
one
sub
component
of
our
study
was
to
look
at
tax
impacts,
both
state
and
local,
so
tax
impacts
for
aviation
contributed
1.1
billion
dollars.
L
On
the
state
side,
we
received
739
million
in
state
tax
revenue
on
the
slides.
We
had
highlighted
a
figure
for
aviation
fuel
sales,
which
was
27
million,
and
that
27
million
funds,
the
transportation
equity
fund
for
aviation,
which
funds
our
office
and
also
capital
improvement
projects
that
we
use
that
we
have
at
these
local
airports.
A
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
And,
as
you
can
understand
by
the
number
I
gave
you
that
we
have
a
backlog
of
over
468
million
dollars
in
pavement,
our
34
million
dollar
budget
falls
a
little
short
for
us,
so
I
just
want
to
end
by
saying
you
know:
aviation
is
an
important
part
of
transportation
in
tennessee.
It's
a
big
driver
of
the
economy,
as
shown
by
that
40
billion
dollar
number,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
your
support
and
the
additional
funds
that
have
been
put
in
the
budget
this
year.
So
thank
you
for
supporting
aviation
in
tennessee.
M
Okay,
awesome
preston,
elliott,
chief
of
environment
and
planning.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
today.
I
think
we're
giving
you
full
modes
today,
so
I'm
going
to
follow
up
here
on
the
short
line
rail
program
and
we've
got
the
slide
up
and
so
tennessee.
The
d.o.t
has
been
involved
in
rail
transportation
services
since
actively
involved
since
1970s
and
in
the
the
markets
and
some
of
their
lower
volume
routes,
and
so
in
1987,
the
legislature.
M
You
all
approved
the
transportation
equity
program
and
also
started
to
actively
fund
investments
in
tennessee's
short
line
rail
program
across
the
state.
There
are
21
short
line,
rail
operators
and
16
authorities,
and
that
represents
about
817
miles
of
shoreline
rail
serving
33
counties
across
the
state,
nine
of
which
are
either
distressed
or
at
risk.
And
it's
important
to
note
that
of
these
817
miles
in
the
33
counties,
there
are
also
16
interchanges
which
in
which
these
lines
interconnect
with
our
class
1
railroads.
So
it's
a
very
expansive
system.
M
So
it's
not
really
just
33
counties
that
are
benefiting
and
utilizing
these
short
lines.
We
felt
it
was
important
to
give
you
all
an
update
because
of
the
85
85
million
dollars,
that's
in
the
budget
for
the
short
line
program,
and
we
have
recently
completed
just
this
last
year.
A
short
line
needs
assessment
and
the
prior
to
this
last
year.
M
The
last
time
a
needs
assessment
was
done
in
our
short
line
program
was
in
2005.,
I'm
going
to
hit
three
areas,
and
it's
the
primarily
the
the
graphics
to
the
bottom
right.
Excuse
me,
bottom
left,
looking
at
the
rail
program
and
the
rail
system,
we
looked
at
the
the
short
line,
the
track
itself
and
the
the
opportunities
for
them
to
move
freight,
and
so
the
speed
of
which
we
move
freight
as
an
element
of
it.
Also,
an
element
of
it
is
the
amount
of
weight
that
our
lines
can
handle
so
focusing
first
on
speed.
M
We
have
about
54
of
the
rail
system
that
is
tapped
at
about
10
miles
per
hour,
so
really
only
about
46
is
able
to
go
up
to
25
miles
per
hour.
So
that's
one
aspect
of
the
needs
assessment
is
the
ability
to
reinvest
in
our
rail
systems
to
get
them
up
to
higher
speeds?
The
second
aspect
is
the
the
weight
component
and
that's
the
286.
It's
the
tonnage
and
about
41
of
the
system
is.
M
It
does
not
meet
that
that
weight
carry
load,
so
the
ability
to
get
our
lines
up
to
a
more
a
standard
that
allows
for
movement
of
freight
and
then
the
last
aspect
of
the
needs
assessment
is
on
structures
and
about
61
of
those
structures.
There's
about
518
structures
on
our
shoreline
program.
Our
system
about
61
are
either
poor
or
fair.
M
So
when
you
take
these
aspects
of
the
of
the
asset
itself,
we
find
that
about
3.2
million
dollars
of
need
if
we
were
to
bring
them
up
to
a
a
certain
level
of
10
miles
per
hour.
If
we
were
to
bring
all
of
the
of
the
54
percent
that
doesn't
meet
the
25
miles
per
hour,
that's
another
10.2
or
10.2
million,
and
then
the
loadage
component.
That's
the
286.,
that's
213.9
million
of
need
and
then
on
the
the
bridges
we're
looking
at
about
just
about
70
million
dollars.
M
Now
it's
important
that
this
is
maintenance
aspects.
These
are.
I
try
to
think
about
it.
As
as
we
look
at
our
roads,
you
know
we
have
a
crews
out
there
that
are
day
in
and
day
out,
but
then
we
also
have
projects
that
we
contract
with
to
to
add
value
to
our
system.
So
these
these
aspects
of
needs
are
these
deferred
maintenance,
so
they're
the
the
bigger
longer
term
aspects
of
things.
So
that's
a
quick
overview
of
the
short
line
program.
H
A
G
It
to
you
back
to
you,
mr
elliot,
can
you
and
you
know
that
may
have
blew
a
crowd,
but
in
your
presentation,
what
is
the
new
construction
when
it
comes
to
short
line
rail
to
a
rail
to
a
track
yeah?
How
about
per
mile?
What?
What
is
that.
M
You're,
I'm
sorry
you're
you're,
saying
in
terms
of
adding
or
your
new
construction
new
construction.
So
a
couple
of
years
ago,
I
think
it
was
two
years
ago
we
had
the
competitive
connectivity
grant
program.
That
was
part
of
the
short
line,
and
that
is
the
only
program
we
have
for
adding
new.
The
the
vast
majority
of
these
needs
are
maintaining
the
existing
system.
G
N
You're
recognizing
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
tdot
for
all
you've
done
the
past
couple
of
weeks.
I
represent
district
47
over
in
region
4..
I
went
by
there
a
couple
of
nights
to
see
those
guys
and
they
were
walking
zombies,
yet
they
still
stuck
with
it,
and
I
appreciate
the
dedication
they
had.
I
don't
live
far
from
the
the
maintenance
shop
there
in
newbern
and
my
road
got
cleaned
off
very
quick.
I
appreciate
the
efforts
they
put
forth,
but
with
that
we
were
talking
about
the
federal
money.
N
H
Well,
you
bring
up
a
good
point
and
we're
at
we're
asked
that
question
a
lot
and
I'll.
Let
joe
weigh
in
a
little
bit,
but
prior
to
that
is
so
right.
Now
we've
got
about
6
500
electrical
vehicles
on
the
road
we
charge
them
100
a
year
as
far
as
that,
that's
their
usage
fee
and
there's
six
and
a
half
million
cars
out
there
and
joe
can
tell
you
how
fast
those
electric
cars
are
gonna
come
online.
H
So
at
some
point
we're
going
to
be
the
lead
in
the
country
is
the
is
the
center
of
may
of
building
those
electric
vehicles
and
we
got
the
battery
plants
here
also,
so
we
better
be
ready
for
what's
coming
down
the
road,
so
a
lot
of
that
is
being
handled
at
the
there's,
a
lot
of
discussions
at
the
federal
level
with
usdot
and
with
the
new
administration
coming
in
the
new
secretary
of
transportation.
H
Asking
that
question.
What
are
we
going
to
do
as
a
nation
to
to
go
from
usage
fees
based
on
diesel,
fuel
and
gas
to
a
to
a
full
vehicle
miles
traveled
and
keep
in
the
trucking
industry
already?
Does
that?
So
how
are
we
going
to
do
that?
Going
forward?
There's
a
lot
of
pushback
across
the
country
and
all
the
constituents
you
answer
to
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
push
back
there,
because
nobody
wants
big
brother
checking
on
them
on
how
many
miles
they
travel
within
the
state,
knowing
that
somebody's,
maybe
tracking
them.
H
So
we're
going
to
be
coming
back
to
you
in
the
future
to
help
us
with
that
problem,
but
we're
having
those
conversations.
We
need
leadership
at
the
federal
level
and
we've
got
several
other
states
across
the
across
the
country.
Oregon
and
utah
are
going
through
pilot
programs
to
see
how
vmt
program
would
work
as
far
as
keeping
up
with
that
and
how
would
that
supply
the
revenue
they
need
to
keep
on
track
joe,
you
want
to
add
sure.
J
Sure,
joe
galbao
chief
financial
officer,
so
as
cash
mentioned,
so
the
the
fee
that
we
charge
in
tennessee
for
an
electric
vehicle
is
100,
and
so,
if
you
looked
at
the
normal
gas-powered
vehicle
and
again,
the
assumption
would
be
13
500
miles
per
year,
which
is
a
pretty
good
average
21
miles
per
gallon,
which
is
a
pretty
good
average.
J
Then
you
add
on
the
federal
tax,
the
in
the
state
tax
that
elect
that
gas
powered
car
would
be
somewhere
around
300
297
dollars
is
what
it
calculates
up
to
so
today,
not
you
know
if
the
electric
field
does
not
pay
anywhere
near
what
that
person
does.
As
commissioner
mentioned,
we
only
have
one
tenth
of
one
percent
penetration
today,
64
6
500
cars
versus
a
6
million
6
million
capacity.
J
What
we're
seeing
right
now
is
at
least
the
latest
projections
they
had
somewhere
around
2025
2026
is,
when
we'll
start
to
see
any
major
inc,
any
decrease
to
our
our
program,
which
would
be
somewhere
in
the
30
million
dollar
range
and
then
obviously
expand
after
that.
So
that's
really
is
as
far
out
as
we
can
look
and
anticipate
at
this
point,
but,
as
commissioner
mentioned,
without
changes
to
how
we
collect
those
fees,
we
will
be
just
monitoring
and
and
adjust
our
budget
accordingly.
K
Thank
you
chairman
this
question
and
thanks
tdot.
I
appreciate
all
that
you
do
keeping
us
number
one
and
thanks
for
fixing
the
potholes
there's
a
lot
and
there's
a
lot
to
go.
Thanks
to
this
wonderful
weather
we've
had,
but
I
appreciate
what
you
do
and
sincerely.
K
F
K
Talking
about
tl-
and
that
is
there
are
so
many
trucks
on
the
road.
I've
always
believed
that
rail
was
a
way
to
eliminate
some
of
that
traffic
on
our
highways,
but
also
to
eliminate
what
semis
do
to
our
highways,
and
I
know
they
pay
a
lot
and
they
contribute
a
lot.
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
find
out
is:
do
you
have
any
kind
of
numbers
that
that
prove
your
data
would
prove
that
rail?
M
M
One
gallon
of
diesel
can
move
one
ton
of
freight
500
miles
so
and
that's
that's
it's
it's
actually
492,
I
think,
is
what
the
the
math
works
out
to
be,
but
when
you
think
about
the
impact
that
has
on
on
alleviating
especially
heavy
freight
from
our
roadways,
there's
absolutely
a
benefit,
as
it
looks
at
our
pavement
and
our
other
assets,
such
as
bridges,
so
to
any
diversion
or
any
opportunity
to
increase.
The
amount
of
of
commodities
that
are
moved
on
rail
is
an
absolute
benefit.
K
And
so
mr
elliott
is
there
with
the
monies
and
the
numbers
that
you
gave
here
on
speed
weight
structure.
K
Is
there
a
plan
going
forward
to
improve
and
how
much?
What
is
the
amount
of
money
you
are
looking
at
to
invest
in
our
rails,
to
get
them
ready
to
do
because
I
know
we
have
a
short
rail
that
goes
pretty
near
to
my
home
and
I
don't
even
think
they
go
10
miles
an
hour.
I
think
that's
speeding
actually,
but
and
they
move
coal
out
from
that,
come
through
that
area.
So
is
there
any
plan
and
how
much
money
are
you
looking
at
to
fix
these?
M
Thank
you
another
great
question,
so
that
is
part
of
the
reason
for
the
actual
budget
line
item
for
the
85
million
is
for
about
seven
years.
I
believe
the
translation
equity
fund
has
been
through
litigation
and
it's
hampered
our
ability
to
actually
make
investments
in
our
rail
system.
H
H
A
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
No
problem
whatsoever.
That's
okay!
Mister!
We
love
you
back
on
the
the
300
300
for
the
for
the
you
know:
combustible
type
vehicle
versus
the
electric
vehicle,
so
they're
paying
100
we're
paying
300.
N
So
these
other
folks
can
ride
on
them
for
nothing,
essentially,
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
problem
from
where
I'm
coming
from,
and
if
anybody
wants
to
say
anything
to
that,
that's
fine,
but
I
want
to
go
in
another
direction.
Okay,
the
fuel.
That's
capped
with
the
air
with
the
airports.
It's
capped
for
certain
folks.
When
it's
capped,
can
they
buy
all
of
their
fuel
for
that
company
through
tennessee
and
distribute
it
across
the
country,
or
do
they
have
or
does
it
have
to
be
delivered
here
in
tennessee.
H
N
H
N
A
Thank
you
just
a
quick
note.
I
was
reminded,
I
believe,
when
the
improve
act
was
voted
on
into
law.
I
think
there
were
1500
electric
vehicles,
maybe
at
that
time
and
now
at
6
500.
So
it's
quadruple
so
we
I
agree
with
you,
commissioner.
I
believe
it's
going
to
be
here
quicker
than
than
we
realized.
Did
you
have
a
comment?
Joe?
Did
you,
okay,.
J
I
Jeremy,
thank
you.
As
always,
commissioners,
tdot
business
is
very,
very
interesting,
very
enlightening.
We
learn
a
lot
like
one
class.
We
ought
to
be
able
to
get.
Mr
chairman.
We
ought
to
get
some
ceu
credits
for
this
stuff.
You.
A
I
You
need
to
work
on
that,
let's
see
him,
so
we
get
us
credits,
you
know,
but
the
deal.
It
is
a
lot
of
interesting
stuff.
As
I
said,
the
improve
act,
and
this
you
should
give
me
a
figure
on
this.
I
got
a
couple
of
questions
chairman
about
two
or
three:
how
much
have
we
generated
on
improve
act
totally
from
a.
J
Yes,
so
the
first
year
the
improve
act
gave
us
100.
Well,
the
budget
was
that
it
was
going
to
deliver
151
million.
We
actually
received
154,
so
3
million
more
the
second
year
we
were
supposed
to
receive
197.
J
We
actually
received
199
million
2
million
more
and
then
last
year
we
were
supposed
to
receive
244,
but
because
of
cobit
it
was
down
by
seven
so
net
net.
Over
that
time,
if
I
could
work
my
151
plus
197
plus
244,
we
were
supposed
to
get
592
and
we
got
590
million.
So
that's
cumulatively
for
three
years
and
then
going
forward.
It
should
be
244
to
250
million
going
forward
in
a
non-coveted
world.
I
Thank
you
for
that,
commissioner.
Obviously,
safety
is
very
important
to
all
of
us:
okay,
anybody's
driving,
you
know
safety
and
unfortunately,
around
the
country
and
sometimes
around
the
world.
We've
seen
bridges
actually
collapse.
Okay,
talk
about
infrastructure,
about
60
years
old
right
now
for
the
last
three
or
four
or
five
administrations,
and
at
the
federal
level,
they've
not
done
anything
at
all.
Okay,
and
to
me,
that's
unacceptable.
Okay!
I
I
Okay,
every
time
I
come
from
memphis
to
here,
I
cross
a
number
of
prisons
and
and
when
it's
bad,
that
thought
goes
through
my
mind.
Okay,
even
though
I
know
our
guys
do
a
tremendous
job,
but
the
same
token
is
just
I'm
human,
and
I
know
the
time
and
everything
has
a
time
period
on,
and
everything
expires
at
some
point
in
time.
I
H
Okay,
so
I'll
I'll
have
you
a
short
answer,
but
I
want
paul
to
weigh
in
kind
of
on
our
bridge
program,
so
you
can
give
you
hopefully
some
level
of
comfort,
of
what
we're
doing
in
the
state.
So
we're
part
of
a
group,
everybody
that
you
that's
spoken
today
is
part
of
a
group
called
ashtow
and
that
that's
all
50
dots
coming
together
working
on
these
kind
of
strategies
last
week
was
our
supposedly
our
week
in
washington.
H
So
we
have
conference,
calls
with
all
our
congressmen
and
senators
and
we're
pushing
them
and
helping
educate
them
like
we
have
done
with
you
today,
educating
them
on
what
our
needs
are
and
pushing
our
agenda
with
them,
so
they
can
helpfully
help
us
help
you.
So
that's
one
thing
that's
being
handled
there.
I
want
paul
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
state
level
on
the
bridge
program.
D
I'll
submit
to
you
that
tennessee
is
in
a
very
good
position
through
initiatives
like
the
improve
act
or
the
general
assembly
actually
acted
on
a
better
bridges
program
several
years
ago,
so
we
actually
have
among
the
best
bridges.
There's
there's
only
eight
states
in
the
u.s
that
have
more
bridges
than
tennessee
has
yet
we
rank
about
eighth
in
the
country
in
the
quality
of
our
bridges
and
we're
a
very
wet
state.
If
you're
a
live
out
in
the
desert
somewhere,
bridges,
just
don't
rock
like
they
do
in
in
the
wet
areas.
D
So
our
bridges
are
in
strong
shape
on
the
state
highway
network
and
if
you
go
down
a
level
to
city
and
county
networks
out
there,
you
know
the
improve
act,
for
instance,
had
525
bridges
on
local
roads.
We
already
had
a
very
healthy
bridge
program
tdot
over
the
last
30
years.
Tdot
has
funded
two-thirds
of
all
bridge
replacements
on
local
roads,
so
through
our
state
aid
program
and
through
a
special
federal
set-aside,
tdot
has
been
very
active
in
working
with
local
government.
Getting
bridges
replaced
as
well.
D
Now
that
being
said
about
six
or
seven
percent
of
bridges
on
local
roads
are
in
not
great
shape
on
the
state
highway
system,
probably
around
three
percent,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
every
single
bridge
that
is
open
to
traffic
is
safe
for
the
posted
loads.
I
know
chair
lady
weaver
and
I
first
met
at
a
at
a
meeting
about
a
bridge
in
her
district
that
we
had
to
close
because
it
was
not
safe
for
traffic
on
it.
We
ultimately
were
able
to
do
a
repair
project
on
it.
D
She
celebrated
the
the
opening
of
the
bridge
with
us,
and
many
of
you
have
had
bridges
in
your
district
that
have
probably
had
to
be
closed
for
one
reason
or
another,
but
again
our
inspection
program.
Tdot.
Does
the
inspection
on
all
publicly
owned,
except
for
federal
reservations,
but
for
all
state
city
and
county
routes?
Tdot?
Does
the
inspection
every
two
years
to
ensure
that
we
have
safe
bridges
for
people
to
drive
on.
I
Chairman,
thank
you
and
that's
very
comforting,
and-
and
I
hope
we
maintain
that,
but
still
that
that
money,
we
need
that
money
in
tennessee
to
do
that
percent
three
percent
and
I
think
that
a
collaborative
effort
bipartisan
will
get
them
to
move.
Okay,
as
it
relates
to
safety
again,
mr
commissioner,
those
areas
that
are
being
worked
on
and
we
all
have
to
pass
through
those
areas
where
people
are
working
and
we
should
slow
down
and
pay
attention,
and
we
don't
sometimes
and
and
when
it's
bad,
it's
really
bad.
I
So
I
didn't
hear
from
you
all.
You
may
have
not
thought
this
far.
What
is
it
that
you
think
we
can
do
to
and
ensure
that
we
have
better
safety
in
those
areas
and
also
you
know
a
lot
of
young
people
and
a
lot
of
older
in
between
may
not
know
the
rules
when
it
comes
to
slowing
down
in
these
areas.
You
should
do
it
as
common
sense,
because
you
can't
hardly
navigate,
but
are
we
taking
advantage
of?
You
know
the
psas
to
kind
of
let
people
know.
I
This
is
what
you
need
to
do
when
you
come
upon
a
construction
area.
Okay,
and
so
I
want
to
know,
you
know,
are
you
using
that
and
what
else
are
you
think
we
need
to
do
to
help
y'all.
H
With
that,
so
I
will
tell
you
this,
and
I
did
mention
this
before
jay
norris,
who
spoke
earlier
department
of
safety.
He
is
lead-
and
I
mentioned
that
ashtow,
where
all
the
state
dots
are
part
of
that
he
is
heading
up
a
task
force
across
the
country
with
all
the
50
dots
about
how
we
can
improve
work
zone
safety.
So
I
say
we
do
have
an
expert
in
the
state
of
tennessee.
That's
helping
us
with
what
we're
trying
to
do.
He
talks
about
the
three
e's.
H
H
What
we
maybe
didn't
really
accentuate
is
we
started
this
work
zone
group
that
started
this
summer,
which
includes
the
tennessee
road
builders,
the
department
of
safety
and
also
ourselves
on
the
engineering
side,
so
we're
working
through
how
we
can
really
work
best
together.
We
have
programs
like
work
with
us.
That's
started,
I
think
in
2016
2017.
H
As
far
as
educating
the
public
about
please
work
with
us
slow
down
move
over,
so
that's
the
mantra
you
look
at
our
digital
display
boards
that
we
have
across
the
state
we're
trying
to
educate
the
public
there
so
we're
trying
to
take
care
of
the
education
part,
the
engineering
part
and
we're
having
conversations
with
enforcement.
How
can
we
better
enforce
in
those
work
zones?
Is
it
requiring
a
blue
light?
All
the
time?
Are
there
other
things
that
we
can
do
to
mitigate
that
risk?
H
A
Thank
you,
representative
mckenzie
you're
recognized.
C
Thank
you,
mr
and
I
didn't
have
a
question,
but
more
of
a
comment
on
the
the
presentation
download
that
that
you
all
gave
us
on
the
the
aviation
portion
that
the
graphics
did
not
the
one
you
just
passed
up.
The
graphics
and
some
of
the
labels
did
not
show
up
on
that,
so
so
y'all
y'all
may
want
to
re,
save
that
and
send
it
back
out
to
us.
Okay.
Thank
you,
sir.
Very.
A
F
Speaker
marsh
you're
recognized.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
too
appreciate
you
all
coming
and
I
appreciate
the
hard
work
that
happened
during
ice
and
snow
and
you
don't
know
how
much
that
meant
to
all
the
rural
counties
too.
We
were
in
a
bad
shape
and
I
want
to
say
to
one
of
our
members
that
trucks
still
mostly
have
to
have
handle
traffic.
That
goes
on
the
rail
and
I
think
in
the
trucking
industry.
F
Well,
I'd
like
to
ask
mr
elliot
several
years
ago,
I
dealt
with
the
small
rail
folks
on
the
the
transportation
equity
fund,
and
I
knew
it
was
in
a
in
a
lawsuit,
and
I
at
one
time
I
understand
there
were
like
40
million
dollars
held
in
in
with
you
all
in
in
a
fund
over
there,
and
I
guess
that
what
I
want
to
ask
is
that
40
million
already
gone
out
and
the
85
million
just
coming
out
of
the
general
fund
into
into
the
small,
well
railroad
lines.
J
12
million
was
given
out
because
it
was
allocated
before
10
million
came
out
actually
from
the
legislature
telling
us
to
get
rid
of
10.,
and
then
there
was
20.6
million
left
10.3
went
via
formula
like
the
other
and
then
10.3
came
by
competitive
grants.
So
today,
all
of
that
42.7
that
we've
received
in
the
in
the
past
is
out
there
all,
but
5
million
is
on
a
contract
right
now,
so
everything
is
out
pretty
much
out
there
on
a
contract.
J
We
have
nothing
else
in
reserve
other
than
the
the
41
million
we
talked
about
that
came
this
year,
39
back
payment,
plus
the
2
million
normal
that
was
actually
abnormal.
There
is
on
the
new
excise
tax,
the
17
cents.
On
the
the
die
diesel
there
is
about
30
million
in
escrow.
That
is
not
we're
not
able
to
touch
at
this
point.
So
the
the
money
we
were
given
before
the
42.7
we've
received
it's
out
there.
Most
of
it
is
on
a
contract.
F
What
what
I
think
most
people
need
to
understand
in
here
is
that,
when
this
small,
the
small
short
line
was
formed,
the
large
class,
a
railroads
didn't
want
to
go
in
these
small
areas
anymore,
so
they
basically
gave
them
away
and
in
the
deal
that
they
gave
them
away,
they
were
going
to
pay
up
17
cents
on
a
gallon.
F
J
Well,
chairman,
so
I
don't
know
how
much
on
a
yearly
basis.
I
know
that
right
now,
as
of
as
of
I
think
it
was
at
december-
there
was
about
30
million
in
that
escrow
account
as
far
as
what's
coming
to
us
today
I
mean
it's
next
to
nothing
other
than
like.
I
said
these
back
payments
that
we
got
this
year
so.
J
It
goes
into
the
it
goes
into
escrow
in
either
fna
or
department
of
revenue.
It's
and
it's
being
held
and
remember.
We
have
two
lawsuits
lawsuits
yeah.
We
have
lawsuits
on
the
the
old
tax,
the
sales
tax
and
on
the
new
tax,
and
so
we're
we're
we're
not
allowed
to
touch
it.
So
it
just
goes
into
an
escrow
account
to
be
used
at
such
point
that
we
get
a
favorable
ruling.
J
F
F
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I
apologize,
I
don't
know
that
I
know
that
number
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
it's
certainly
something
we
can
get
but
instrument
approaches
are
a
goal
for
certain
level
of
airports.
Of
course,
at
some
airports
it's
not
something
that
we
would
look
at
funding
through
a
grant
program,
but
but
it
is
something
that
airports
can
put
on
their
capital
improvement
projects
for
consideration.
A
A
It
I
so
appreciate
tdot
for
coming
today,
and
I
really
enjoyed
this
commissioner,
thank
you
so
much
and
to
your
team,
and
obviously
this
is
something
that
the
membership
is
very
interested
in,
because
you
got
a
lot
of
questions.
A
I
found
the
presentation
be
very
comprehensive
and
very
informative,
and
I've
found
that
if
you
have
any
questions
about
anything
in
your
district
regarding
funding
or
bridges
or
roads
that
involves
your
district
tdot
is
always
available
to
answer
those
questions.
I
call
them
several
times.
Probably
paul
gets
tired
of
seeing
my
phone
popping
anytime,
but
I
really
do
appreciate
you
being
here,
and
I
know
the
the
members
do
as
well.
Any
further
comments,
commissioner,
before
thank.