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House Select Committee on Redistricting- September 8, 2021
A
We
have
30
of
them
and
you
can
see
in
this
map
that
there
are
in
west
tennessee
and
east
tennessee
and
along
the
upper
cumberland
plateau
generally,
so
we
had
30
compared
to
eight
the
last
decade
and
on
the
flip
side
of
that,
we've
had
17
counties
that
are
growing
above
10
percent
and
most
of
those
counties
are
around
middle
tennessee
and
just
another
way
to
look
at
it.
This
is
a
county
growth
table
from
2010
to
2020..
A
It
just
highlights
it's
the
top
five
and
bottom
five
growers
and
ones
that
didn't
grow,
and
that
change
goes
from
point
five:
nine
percent
up
for
charles
dale
to
a
negative
ten
point:
five:
six
percent
for
lake
county
you'll
notice
that
the
the
top
five
are
all
middle
tennessee
and
the
low
five
are
all
west
tennessee.
A
So
a
little
bit
about
where
we
are
so
in
1990.
You
know
the
ideal
house
district
size
for
state
house
districts
was
49
264
and
you
can
see,
as
the
decades
have
gone
by
that
we're
now
at
69
806.
So,
in
30
years
the
house
districts
have
gone
up
about
20,
000,
20,
000
folks
and
from
the
the
state
total
of
six
million
nine
hundred
and
ten
thousand
eight
forty.
A
We
also
then
know
the
ideal
populations
for
the
different
types
of
districts
congressional
ideal,
the
seven
hundred
and
sixty
seven
thousand
eight
hundred
and
seventy
one
the
view
and
then
the
senate
ideal
population
of
209
0419,
and
I
have
a
range
there
and
I'll
get
back
to
that.
A
In
a
second,
the
tennessee
house,
ideal
population
is
69
806
again
with
a
10
range
for
those
of
you
who
have
been
through
this
before-
and
many
of
us
have
talked
to
the
congressional
ideal
population
is
the
ideal
we're
going
to
be
plus
or
minus
zero
people.
If
we
can
maybe
there'll
be
one
or
two
people
difference,
but
we
try
to
get
down
to
the
exact
number
when
it
comes
to
state
legislative
districts.
A
As
it's
been
as
the
one
person,
one
vote
principle
has
been
determined,
there's
a
range
and
there
is
a
10
principle:
it's
it's
not
really
a
rule
and
it
needs
to
be
justified
and
and
and
what
what's
the
reason
that
you
have
that
and
it's
not
exactly
plus
five
plus
minus
five
percent.
It
can
be
a
variation
that
could
be
plus
six
minus
four.
A
In
our
case,
what
what
drives
the
deviation
is
our
state
constitution,
our
state
constitution
in
article
two
section,
five
wants
us
to
keep
every
county
hole
and
by
doing
that
and
by
keeping
county
holes,
we
want.
We,
we
wind
up
with
a
range
that
we
try
to
stay
within
and
and
and
that
will
be
under
10
and
finally,
about
the
census
data.
This
is
a
10
to
20
2010
to
2020
mal
apportionment
table.
A
It
just
shows
you
some
highlights
the
the
districts
that
are
the
top
five,
the
the
most
population
after
the
census,
on
their
current
boundaries
and
then
the
districts
at
the
the
five
lowest
populated
district
after
the
2020
census,
again
notice
that
the
five
with
the
most
population
are
all
middle
tennessee
districts
and
the
five
on
the
low
end
are
all
west
tennessee
districts
or
in
shelby
county
in
west
tennessee.
A
Both
this
male
apportionment
table
a
full
male
apportionment
table
and
a
full
county
growth
table
are
on
the
redistricting
house,
redistricting
web
page
under
documents.
So,
if
you
want
to
see
the
full
list,
I
encourage
folks
to
go
ahead
and
look
there
they're
currently
there,
and
this
is
a
good
time
to
say
that,
at
by
the
end
of
the
day
today,
this
presentation
will
be
also
beyond
the
web
page
for
people
look
for
under
documents
and
then
last
on
on
this
portion
of
this.
This
this
map
shows
sort
of
where
representation
is
moving.
A
The
black
arrows
are
showing
where
representation
is
moving
in
tennessee
and
the
very
colorful
central
sort
of
I
don't
know
what
you
would
call
that
star
is
drive
times
around
nashville
and
each
one
of
those
rings
is
15
minutes.
And
if
you
remember
the
map
that
we
looked
at
where
the
growth
was
it's
it's.
It's
maybe
not
surprising
that
within
an
hour
of
nashville
or
most
of
those
counties
that
have
grown
10
or
more
so
just
wanted
to
share
that
with
you.
A
So
two
things
that
this
committee's
charged
with
is
approval
of
the
house
redistricting
guidelines
and
also
the
approval
of
the
submissions
of
redistributing
plans,
and
we
will
come
back
to
both
of
these
in
a
moment
after
this
presentation
so
that
you
can
talk
about
them
specifically.
But
I
just
wanted
to
go
over
with
you
these
with
you
now
as
part
of
this
presentation
and
the
house.
A
Redistricting
guidelines
are
found
currently,
and
these
are
the
same
guidelines
that
the
house
has
had
since
1990s
and
they're
in
3-1-103
b,
and
it's
an
intense
statement
of
of
what
our
criteria
are
and
when
we
go
through
redistricting
of
the
state
house
and
I'm
going
to
make
that
clear.
A
Each
district
must
be
represented
by
a
single
member,
so
we
have
to
have
99
districts
with
one
member.
Each
we
don't
have
multi-member
districts
districts
shall
comply
with
the
constitutional
requirements
for
one
person,
one
vote
as
judicially
interpreted
to
apply
to
state
legislative
districts.
Essentially
a
10
percent
variance
geographic
features,
boundaries
and
population
figures
shall
be
based
on
the
2020
decennial
census.
We
use
the
the
the
data
that
the
census
bureau
produces.
We
don't
change
the
data,
we
don't
redraw
lines,
we
don't
split
census
blocks,
we
use
the
data
as
it's
been
delivered.
A
Districts
must
be
contiguous
and
contiguously
contiguity.
That's
a
tough
one
by
water
is
sufficient.
I'ma
come
back
to
talk
about
this
after
this
next
one
as
well.
No
more
than
30
counties
may
be
split
to
attach
to
other
counties
or
parts
of
counties
to
form
multi-county
districts.
So
article
2
section
5
of
the
tennessee
constitution,
tells
us
hey
house
of
representatives,
don't
split
any
counties.
A
The
one
person
one
vote
standard
says:
well,
you
got
to
have
your
district
substantially
equal
in
population
and
those
two
things,
though
they
conflict
one's
federal
one's
our
state
constitution
in
1983.
This
issue
came
up
in
front
of
the
state
supreme
court
in
in
the
case
locker
recruit,
and
the
supreme
court,
in
its
wisdom,
said
all
right
house.
In
order
for
you
to
comply
with
one
person,
one
vote,
we
know
you're
going
to
have
to
split
counties,
but
we
are
going
to
put
that
limit
at
30.
A
you're,
not
going
to
split
more
than
30
and
you're,
not
going
to
split
at
the
time.
The
four
urban
counties,
but
for
two
reasons,
so
you're
limited
to
30
before
urbans
would
count
if
you
had
to
split
them.
For
these
reasons,
the
two
reasons
were:
compliance
with
the
voting
rights
act
or
to
take
a
small
portion
off
to
help
with
a
deviation
issue
in
an
adjoining
district.
So
those
were
the
two
reasons
they
gave
us
for
the
urban.
What
else
they
told
us
was
you're?
A
Not
going
to
split
a
county
more
than
once,
I
can't
take
I'm
going
to
use
putnam
county
as
the
example
I
can't
take
putnam
county,
which
has
enough
population
for
a
district
and
a
little
bit
more.
I
can't
make
the
district
in
putnam
county
take
part
of
it
and
move
it
to
cumberland
the
remainder
and
take
the
other
part
of
the
remainder
and
move
it
to
the
west,
which
would
be
jackson.
Oh
I'm
gonna
go
north
okay
I'll
go
north
a
little
bit
north
to
jackson
county.
So
I
can't
we
can't.
A
We
can't
divide
up
the
counties
and
split
them
in
more
than
one
way
permissible
to
do
it
once
with
a
limit
of
30,
but
not
to
double
split
any
county
that
you
split.
Why
pause
on
the
previous
one
about
contiguity?
I
think
I
did
that
better
this
time.
So
we
have
tennessee
is
unique
and
we
have
non-contiguous
counties.
A
There
are
several
of
these
counties
and
it
is
important
that
if
you
redistrict
that
the
counties
stay
whole,
so
when
loudoun
county
is
put
into
a
district,
it
has
two
land
islands.
There
are
actual
small
parts
of
loudoun
county
that
are
separated
by
land
in
adjoining
counties.
They
also
have
loudoun
county
a
place.
Where
there's
a
point
contiguity.
A
A
So
that's
one
of
the
the
unique
county
features
of
tennessee,
there's
more
there's
a
portion
of
dixon
county
and
cheatham
county
there's
a
portion
of
davidson
county
in
wilson,
county
and
there's
a
portion
of
white
county
that
is
in
well.
You
know
I'll
have
to
think
about
that,
but
it's
below
white
county.
Let's
so
those
are
they're
they're.
A
A
And
finally,
the
redistricting
plan
will
comply
with
the
voting
rights
act
and
constitutions
of
tennessee
and
the
united
states.
You
know
this.
This
is
the
order
that
they
appear
in
the
statute.
There
is
no
particular
order.
We
comply
with
all
these,
but
these
are
the
the
guidelines
that
the
house
has
had
and
then
just
turning
to
submission
of
redistricting
plans
and
again
this
is
this
is
similar
to
what
we
have
done
in
past
redistricting
cycles.
A
It
I
tried
to
just
clean
it
up
a
little
bit
to
make
it
a
little
less
wordy
so
I'll.
Just
go
through
this
with
y'all
plans
may
only
be
submitted
by
members
of
the
house
of
representatives
outside
plans
submitted
through
members
of
the
house
of
representatives
shall
be
delivered
to
the
select
committee
on
redistricting
by
12
o'clock
noon,
central
standard
time
on
friday
november,
12
2021
to
determine
compliance
with
submission
guidelines.
So
the
house
just
like
a
bill
or
amendment
or
a
resolution
or
a
proclamation.
A
A
10
years
ago,
congressman
cooper
introduced
two
plans
through
his
state
representative,
speaker,
harwell,
to
be
considered
by
by
the
committee
that
we
had
10
years
ago
and
and
and
this
proposal
would
give
folks
a
couple
additional
weeks
to
turn
them
into
us
last
time.
It
was
november.
First
move
it
back
to
november
12th.
We
have
to
have
them
early
enough,
it's
hard
to
determine
how
many
we'll
receive,
but
we
have
to
look
through
them
to
determine
the
compliance
with
the
guidelines
that
we
just
went
over
and
what
what
we
do.
A
What
I
do
is
produce
a
report
for
you
that
just
actually
says
this
plan
has
a
deviation
of
x.
It
splits
this
many
counties
and
so
on.
So
moving
on
outside
plans
submitted,
must
comply
with
the
following
plans,
must
use
the
same
population
figures
and
geographic
division
used
by
the
house
of
representatives
for
redistricting.
So
anybody
that
wants
to
do
this
on
the
outside
needs
to
use
the
data
from
the
20
for
the
2020
census
from
the
u.s
census.
A
Bureau
plans
must
be
submitted
for
the
state
as
a
whole,
with
the
requisite
number
of
contiguous
single
member
districts.
For
the
type
of
plan
submitted,
if
you're
submitting
a
congressional
plan,
it's
nine
districts,
if
you're
submitting
the
house
plan,
it's
99.
If
it's
the
state
senate's
33,
you
have
to
do
the
whole
plan.
A
Plans
must
comply
with
the
voting
rights
act
and
the
constitution's
tennessee
and
the
united
states
plans
must
be
submitted
in
electronic
format,
which
is
prepared
using
either
maptitude
for
redistricting
or
an
electronic
format
which
can
be
imported
using
maptitude
for
redistricting.
So
the
state
house
is
using
a
software
called
maptitude
for
redistricting.
It's
the
same
software
we've
used
since
the
late
1990s.
A
The
relative
deviation
from
the
ideal
population
of
each
district
expresses
the
percentage
and
the
total
overall
range
of
the
plan
as
a
whole.
It's
just
important
for
us
that
in
the
when
we're
importing
that
we
have
an
idea,
if
there's
something
gone
wrong,
we
can
see
that
wait,
a
second
district
one's
supposed
to
have
66
500,
but
I'm
showing
it
as
66
900.
So
it's
important
that
there
is
a
report,
but
it
should.
A
If
people
don't
do
that,
I
mean
some
of
the
some
of
the
sites
may
not
be
able
to
produce
exactly
that,
but
I
think
it's
easy
enough
to
figure
out
some
of
that
information,
so
the
more
they
can,
the
better.
It
is
to
make
sure
that
we
get
correctly
into
our
system
and
then
just
wanted
to
touch
on
the
redistricting
legislation.
A
The
bills
for
the
state
house,
state,
senate
and
congress
have
already
been
filed.
They
are
in
the
public
service
subcommittee
of
state
government
and
speaker
johnson
and
speaker
marsh
share
the
sponsorship
of
those
those
pieces
of
legislation,
and
what
happens
is
3-1-103
is
where
the
redistricting
plan
winds
up
it's
when
it
turns
into
language.
So
we
take
a
map.
A
This
is
your
current
districts
and
what
we
do
with
that
map
is
we
put
it
into
the
we
do
a
report
and
as
you'll
see
district
one
sullivan
county
and
the
report
will
show
each
district
if
it's
a
whole
county,
it
will
list
the
county
if
the
vtd,
which
is
a
voting
tabulation
district.
What
we
know
is
precincts.
It
will
tell
us
what
full
precincts
are
within
that
county
and
if
the
precinct
is
split,
then
you'll
look
down
there.
Hickory
tree
fire
hall
was
split
last
time
and
you
see
the
census
blocks.
A
So
that's
what
turned
the
legislation
looks
like
and
then
just
finally
a
little
redistricting
timetable
session.
Convenes
january
11th.
The
qualifying
deadline
is
april
7th
and
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
idea
what
90
days
60
days
and
30
days
out
from
that
is
of
course,
it's
important
to
do
this
early
on
to
give
citizens
notice
to
get
help.
A
The
election
commissions
and
the
counties
know
where
people
are
going
to
vote,
and
then
these
this
plan
will
be
in
place
for
the
next
primary
and
general
election
and
then,
finally,
just
when
the
2010
plan
and
20
2000
plans
were
enacted,
you
can
see
in
january
early
january,
in
2002
and
then
in
later
january
and
2010.,
here's
just
a
little
contact
information
for
folks
if
they
want
to
get
in
touch
with
speaker,
johnson
or
myself.
A
C
C
A
Leader
camper,
I
can
tell
you
that
I
I'm
I'm
not
planning
on
doing
that,
but
that's
that
I
mean
that's
up
to
you
all
to
to
decide
how
you're
gonna
work
through
this
process
as
we
go.
The
house
is
traditionally
just
used.
The
house
nonpartisan
house
staff
to
work
on
redistricting.
C
A
Yes,
leader
came
about,
so
we
do
have
we
use
that
we
use
a
software
called
maptitude
for
redistributing,
which
is
which
is
developed
by
caliper
corporation.
That's
what
the
house
has
used
since
the
late
1990s
for
redistricting
so,
and
I
guess
that
that
just
provides
that
what
they
do
is
they
take
the
census,
the
raw
census
data
and
put
it
into
a
program
that
makes
it
usable
for
somebody
like
me
that
doesn't
have
very
good
technical
skills
to
be
able
to
to
to
work
on
redistricting.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
mr
speaker,
and
and
thank
you,
mr
hines.
I
appreciate
I
appreciate
you
being
here
and
all
of
your
expertise
on
this.
Also
based
on
your
preliminary
analysis
of
the
population
data.
A
A
It's
been
one
of
our
criteria
since
the
1990s
and
when
it
comes
to
the
voting
rights
act
and
when
it
comes
to
redistricting,
you
know,
race
can't
predominate
the
development
of
a
plan,
but
you
have
to
think
about
it
and
you
have
to
look
at
it
as
long
as
it
doesn't
predominate
and
what
you
don't
want
to
do
is
retrogress
in
areas
where
minority
majority
districts
can
be
maintained
or
created
I'll
say
that
I've
I've
looked
a
little
at
the
districts
that
we
currently
have
to
see.
A
A
You
know
we
have
a
growing
hispanic
population
in
tennessee
and
it
appears
that
that
population
continues
to
be
diverse
and
in
areas
where
its
strongest
is
it's
very
mixed.
Their
census
blocks,
for
example,
there's
there's
census
blocks,
there's
precincts
in
sort
of
south
southwest
memphis.
That
are,
you
know:
80
90
african-american.
A
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir,
and
and
that's
the
perfect
segue
to
my
my
next,
my
follow-up
and
based
on
the
same
analysis.
Are
there
any
areas
where
minority
voters
may
not
make
up
a
majority
of
the
population
but
have
40
percent
or
more,
which
will
potentially
give
them
the
opportunity
to
elect
representatives
of
their
choice?.
A
A
So
when
it
comes
to
opportunity
in
opportunity
districts
you
you
may
recall,
you
were
here
that
last
redistricting
cycle
that
an
area
in
nashville
antioch
area
nashville,
appeared
to
have
and
and
wound
up
close
to
what
I
would
think
of
as
a
minority
opportunity
district.
What
was
a
combination
of
of
african-american
voting
age,
population
and
hispanic
voting
age
population,
and
it
was,
it
was
the
majority
of
the
district.
A
So
there
are
areas
like
that
that
are
not
a
majority
minority
district,
but
are
areas
where
there
are
different
minority
groups
that
are
significant
in
population.
A
But
I
don't
know
if
you
necessarily
know
if
all
the
folks
that
live
there,
if
the
different
groups
vote
the
same
way.
That
would
be
part
of
the
analysis
that
you'd
look
at
to
see
if
it
was
effective
and
effective
for
who
is
it
effective?
For
the
you
know,
30
percent
hispanic,
voter
population
or
the
30
percent
african-american
you'd
have
to
to
judge
that.
B
You
any
other
questions
all
right.
We
need
to
approve
a
house
redistricting
guidelines
so
miss
times.
Would
you
explain
the
guidelines.
A
Yes,
mr
speaker,
thank
you.
So
we,
we
talked
a
little
bit
in
the
presentation
about
the
guidelines.
I
put
that
slide
back
up.
It's
also
on
the
dashboard.
If
you
want
to
see
it
closer
up
in
front
of
you,
it's
the
same
same
information
on
the
dashboard
program
under
house
redistricting
guidelines.
These
are
the
guidelines
that
are
sort
of
our
criteria,
our
intent.
A
When
we
do
house
state
house
redistricting,
they
have
been
the
guidelines
since
the
1990
cycle-
and
this
is
this-
is
the
the
guidelines
that
we
have
and
I'd
be
happy
to
to
answer
any
questions
about
about
the
guidelines.
B
B
Brute
next
submission
of
redistricting
plans.
A
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
and
I've
gone
advanced
to
the
slide,
there's
two
slides
that
have
the
submission
information
and
both
of
these.
If
this
is
approved
by
the
committee,
both
of
these
documents
will
be
on
the
website
of
their
the
web
page
of
the
committee
by
the
end
of
the
day
today,
so
that
everybody
can
can
see
them,
but
the
submission
of
redistricting
plans
again.
These
are
the
same
submission
guidelines
that
we
used
in
in
previous
cycles,
with
a
few
with
a
few
provisos
one
we've.
A
We
we've
given
two
more
weeks
for
folks
to
submit
a
plan
through
a
member,
and
I
think,
we've
simplified
these
requirements
on
this
on
the
second
page,
to
make
a
little
bit
more
understandable.
I
think
there
were
maybe
nine
last
time
and
it's
easier
to
boil
it
down
to
these
five
and
also
on
the
fifth
one
again.
I
recommend
that
folks
give
us
a
detailed
report,
but
we
wouldn't
hold
people
to
that.
A
We've
customarily
worked
with
organizations
when
they
have
submitted,
if
there's
issues
with
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
it
into
the
into
the
system
and
be
able
to
evaluate
it.
So
that's
these
are
the
submission
guidelines
and
again
this
is
similar
to
what
we've
had
in
the
past.
E
Thank
you.
The
only
the
only
comment
I
would
have
is
number
two
seems
to
be
potentially
a
little
cumbersome
for
individuals
from
a
community
if
they,
if
they
know
their
community
and
would
like
to
submit
a
plan
for
their
own
district,
it
would
make
sense
to
me
that
we
would
maybe
accept
that
and
then
incorporate
it
into
a
plan.
E
Potentially
I
just
I
can't
imagine
a
a
a
a
group
of
people
from
say
davidson
county
having
a
real
ability
to
have
an
impact
in
somebody
on
another
edge
of
the
state,
and
they
have
the
ability
to
have
the
research
done
and
to
know
the
the
communities
of
interest,
and
so
I'm
curious
if
there's
a
way
that
we
could
allow
for
single
districts
to
be
submitted.
A
Thank
you,
mr
e
here.
Thank
you,
representative
freeman.
So
we
we
have.
These
are
the
same
submission
guidelines
we've
had
in
previous
cycles,
and
the
importance
of
a
whole
state
requirement
is,
if
somebody
again,
if
you
don't
mind
me
using
putnam
county
representative
williams,
if
somebody
does
district
for
putnam
county
it,
it
doesn't
necessarily
help
us
in
the
sense
one.
We
can't
evaluate
it.
It's
a
single
district
or
at
the
most
a
district
and
a
half
and
two
it
won't
necessarily
fit
in
in
a
plan.
A
There's
there's
decisions
that
have
to
be
made
even
in
the
counties
that
are
remain
whole
an
example
that
is
a
as
a
county,
a
multi-district
county
that
could
have
say
nine
or
ten
districts
in
it.
That
decision
is
significant
and
it
affects
how
the
rest
of
the
districts
are
drawn.
So
that's
the
reason
that
we've
had
this
requirement
in
for
the
last
20
years,.
D
Thank
you,
speaker,
johnson,
mr
hines.
I
thank
you
for
including
putnam
county
and
all
your
discussions
today,
but
I
did
have
a
clarification.
The
speaker,
sexton's
predecessor
and
speaker
sexton,
have
been
reticent
about
a
number
of
bills
that
were
limited
as
it
relates
to
carrying
bills.
D
My
question
would
be
as
it
relates
to
house
plans.
Are
the
members
of
this
committee
in
the
rules
limited
to
the
number
of
plans
they
could
submit
so,
for
instance,
could
representative
freeman?
If
he
had
a
plethora
of
ideas,
could
he
submit
15
statewide
plans,
or
is
he
limited
to
the
number
that
he
can
submit
so
so
the.
A
Representative
williams,
so
the
the
these
these
aren't
bills.
These
are
concepts
their
plans
and
you
you
know
we
can
get
a
hundred,
we
get
a
thousand
or
we
could
get
three,
and
you
know
the
limitation
is
just
on
the
resources
that
you
have
myself
and
the
and
some
some
good
folks
from
legal
services
that
are
are
helping
me
on
on
drafting
plans
and
if
we
give
them
from
the
outside,
then
it's
all
about
getting
them
into
our
system
and
then
evaluating
them.
A
But
there's
not
a
limitation
on
the
number
that
can
be
submitted,
but
each
one
of
them
then
turns
into
an
amendment
and
that's
why
it's
important
for
them
to
have
a
sort
of
a
sponsor.
A
So
if
it's
an
outside
plan,
somebody
a
member
will
be
the
sponsor
of
it
and
if
it
moves
through
this
committee
and
on
to
the
to
the
regular
full
committee
standing
committee
process
when
it
gets
to
public
service,
it's
gonna
have
to
change
into
the
language
that
I
showed
you
with
the
counties,
the
vtds
and
the
census
blocks.
So
each
one
of
those
is
an
amendment
and
then
it
becomes
more
like
a
bill.
The
less
of
a
map
more
about
the
language.
D
A
So
so
yeah
this
time
he
said-
thank
you,
mr
speaker
williams.
So
in
in
the
past,
we've
allowed
people
to
submit
outside
plans
and
we've
been
able
to
handle
that
with
the
with
the
deadline
that
we
had
and
the
staff
that
we
had,
and
my
hope
would
be
that
we
we
get
some
very
thoughtful
plans,
and
you
know
it's
it's
it's
anyone's,
guess
what
that
number
will
be
in
the
past.
It
hasn't
been
unmanageable.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
doug.
With
respect
with
respect
to
those
plans
that
are
submitted.
Will
the
members
of
this
committee
have
access
to
those
plans
what's
been
traditional?
In
that
sense,.
C
A
Camper,
so
what
we've?
What
we've
done
in
the
past?
I
can
use
10
years
ago
as
an
example,
we
had
five
plans
submitted
from
the
outside
through
two
different
members,
and
I
evaluated
those
plans
kind
of
a
factual
evaluation
of
how
many
counties
I
said,
what's
the
deviation
and
then
they
were,
that
analysis
was
available
to
the
committee
and
I
can't
recall
if
we
had
a
picture
of
them
last
time
our
technology
keeps
getting
better.
A
I
don't
think
we
projected
them,
but
we
definitely
had
visual
aids
and
then
we
had
the
proponents
of
those
not
only
the
legislator,
who
was
the
quote-unquote
sponsor,
but
we
also
had
the
proponents
of
those
plans
in
attendance
at
the
meeting
where
they
were
discussed
and
were
able
to
offer
comments
at
that
time.
C
A
Leader
camper,
yes,
I
was
able
to
work
last
time.
There
was
an
organization
now
north
carolina
that
one
of
the
members
was
the
sponsor
of
plans,
and
I
worked
with
them
to
help
them
correct
some
of
the
deficiencies
when
it
came
to
county
splitting
just
just,
and
they
gave
them
enough
time
if
they
did
early
enough
to
where
I
could
say,
you've
got
to
you.
I
know
you're
not
from
here.
You
need
to
read
the
locker
case.
A
You
got
to
understand
the
county,
splitting
provisions
that
we
have
so
there
is
an
opportunity
and
and
to
to
just
not
give
legal
advice
but
to
maybe
point
out
some
some
early
deficiencies
that
you
can
see
if
they,
if
folks,
want
that
they
some
some
may
not.
B
Thank
you
later
all
right.
We
need
to
adopt
the
submission
submission
of
redistricting
plans.
A
Yes,
mr
speaker,
thank
you.
We've
had
we
actually
had
11
individuals
asked
to
provide
public
comments.
The
committee
by
yesterday
at
one
o'clock,
two
of
those
individuals
have
one
is
not
able
to
be
in
nashville.
The
other
one
was
not
able
to
attend
the
the
meeting.
So
we
have
nine
folks
that
are
still
on
the
list
and
hopefully
are
here
today,
and
I
have
that
list
and
I'm
happy
to
to.
B
All
right,
so
we
have
have
nine.
We.
We
will
limit
the
speakers
to
three
minutes
piece.
Would
you
call
up
the
first.
F
Thank
you,
speaker,
johnson.
Thank
you
vice
chairman
marsh.
Thank
you.
I
guess
in
congress
we
call
it
ranking
member
camper.
Thanks
to
each
member
of
this
distinguished
committee,
I
would
ask
unanimous
consent
to
submit
my
written
statement
for
the
record.
F
F
F
I
hope
and
pray
for
nashville's
sake
that
that's
done
this
time,
because
I
think
there
are
several
arguments
and,
as
you
was
recited,
the
state
constitution
requires
you
not
to
split
counties
unless
you
really
have
to,
and
30
is
the
maximum
that
can
be
split.
Ideally,
none
would
be
split,
but
nashville
has
grown
to
the
size
where
it's
almost
exactly
the
right
size
to
be
a
congressional
district,
but
nashville
should
also
not
be
split
because
it's
the
state
capital
as
y'all
know.
None
of
you
want
your
home
county
split.
F
You
would
be
really
criticized
by
your
constituents
if
it's
split
without
a
darn
good
reason,
but
nashville
is
not
only
the
state
capital.
It's
also.
The
economic
engine
of
the
state
and
nashville
made
that
unique
and
historic
decision
back
in
the
60s
to
go
metro
to
combine
city
and
county
government.
F
G
G
After
all,
who
knows
the
needs
of
a
community
better
than
the
people
who
live
there?
However,
at
the
same
time,
these
same
people
may
lack
insights
needed
to
draw
a
credible
map
to
be
considered
to
be
for
the
credible
map
for
the
entire
state.
G
H
Yes,
kendra
lee
policy
manager
for
the
equity
alliance
council,
heim
speaker,
madame
by
speaker.
I
appreciate
you
all
for
letting
us
be
here
for
the
moment.
I
just
wanted
to
echo
the
sentiments
of
a
lot
of
the
other
community
partners
that
we
have
here
across
tennessee,
I'm
about
transparency
and
really
about
collaboration
with
the
people
of
tennessee.
H
As
your
constituencies,
you
took
a
vow
to
do
the
work
on
behalf
of
the
people
and
we
talk
about
the
plans
that
have
to
be
submitted
on
a
statewide
basis.
You
can
see
how
it
can
be
a
hindrance
to
the
exact
people.
You
took
an
oath
to
be
able
to
serve,
and
so
we
want
to
strongly
ask
you
to
reconsider
about
being
able
to
have
plans.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
made
on
a
statewide
basis
and
so
council
himes.
H
I
understand
that
this
is
the
way
that
things
have
been
done,
but
I
can
say
that
the
last
redistricting
process-
I
was
a
fan
of
coach
calipari,
so
things
change,
and
so
we
want
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
we
are
progressing
in
the
right
direction,
and
so
I
just
asked
this
committee.
I
thank
you
for
being
here.
We
thank
you
for
your
service,
but
truly
consider
making
this
process
transparent,
making
it
collaborative
and
making
it
equitable.
Thank
you.
H
I
want
to
first
of
all,
thank
you
all
thank
you
to
speaker,
johnson
and
each
member
of
the
committee
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today.
My
name
is
mattia
powell.
I
am
the
exec
director
for
civic
tennessee.
It's
a
non-partisan
state
coalition,
dedicated
to
increasing
civic
participation
around
around
communities
that
are
historically
underrepresented,
I'm
also
a
lifelong
tennessean
growing
up
in
rural
west
tennessee
in
trenton
tennessee,
but
spending
a
better
part
of
my
life
in
nashville.
H
While
these
communities
are
drastically
different
when
it
comes
to
having
a
say
over
hooper
represents
us
most
of
us
really
want
similar
things.
We
want
a
transparent
process.
We
can
trust
where
communities
remain
whole
and
where
voters
have
an
equal
voice.
In
my
work,
I
often
hear
from
people
that
their
voice
in
their
vote
doesn't
matter
and
when
communities
are
broken
up
and
power's
diluted,
people
are
less
likely
to
engage
in
the
process
and
have
the
ability
to
impact
policies
that
affect
their
communities.
H
So
I
urge
you
to
really
make
every
attempt
to
keep
counties
whole
and
consider
communities
victors
when
drawing
districts.
Nobody
knows
communities
better
than
the
people
who
live
in
them,
including
the
public
in
all
stages
of
the
map.
Drawing
process
is
key
to
drawing
fair
districts,
and
so
I
urge
you
to
do
a
few
things,
some
of
which
you've
already
heard
today.
You
know
host
public
meetings
before
the
maps
are
drawn
to
solicit
public
input
and
truly
take
in
consideration
community
maps
that
are
submitted
by
the
community
when
drawing
and
finalizing
maps.
H
I
I
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
all
of
you
today
and
I'm
very
glad
that
the
house
committee
is
committed
to
a
transparent
process
that
involves
public
input,
as
many
of
you
know,
as
we
just
saw,
williamson
county
has
experienced
exponential
growth
over
the
last
decade,
which
has
contributed
to
a
20
shift
toward
democrats
in
the
last
presidential
election.
I
We
are
all
very
concerned
about
how
redistricting
will
impact
our
state
legislative
districts,
and
I
urge
the
committee
to
draw
lines
in
a
fair
manner
that
keeps
neighborhoods
towns
and
city
boundaries
intact
in
williamson
county.
Our
two
largest
cities,
franklin
and
spring
hill
are
divided
into
three
and
two
house
districts
respectively.
I
As
the
maps
are
drawn,
I
urge
the
committee
to
share
information
in
a
clear
and
timely
manner
that
allows
for
plenty
of
time
for
public
comment.
I
also
hope
the
committee
will
encourage
representatives
to
hold
town
halls
in
their
districts
to
present
the
information
to
their
constituents.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
today.
B
E
E
It
seems
in
our
senate
race
that
we've
got
four
senate
districts.
I
know
you
guys
are
not
worried
about
senate,
but
in
the
four
set
of
districts
we've
got
a
41
percent
overpopulation
something's,
going
to
change
there
pretty
drastically,
but
in
the
house
districts
the
10
house
districts
we
have,
we
only
have
a
25.52
percent
overpopulation
on
an
average,
that's
2.5
percent
per
house
district.
E
E
Representative
freeman
yours
is
1.46
underpopulated,
so
there
is
going
to
be
some
neighborhoods
that
change
I,
as
a
republican
in
this
county.
We
feel
very
underrepresented,
but
I
think
your
mission
is
to
divide
by
population
and
not
by
politics,
and
that
is
my
comment
to
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
gentlemen.
For
your
time,.
A
Mr
times,
yes,
mr
speaker,
I
have
two
folks
listed
here,
jackie
sims
and
tom
savage,
and
if
I
don't
know
if
both
or
one
is
going
to
speak,
miss
sims.
B
J
My
name
is
jackie
sims.
First,
I
would
like
to
thank
the
house
registry
redistricting
committee,
chairman
johnson,
vice
chair,
mars
and
attorney
heims,
the
council
to
the
committee,
I'm
a
resident
of
nashville,
and
I
am
on
the
redistricting
committee
of
the
state
conference
of
the
naacp.
J
J
The
tennessee
state
naacp
legal
partner,
is
the
lawyers
committee
for
civil
rights.
The
tennessee
naacp
has
advocated
for
fair
housing
since
gomelian
vs
lightfoot
case
in
the
early
1960s.
I'm
here
today
to
make
several
appeals
to
you.
First,
it
is
important
for
the
committee
to
support
and
vote
for
official
hearings
that
allow
for
community
groups
to
represent
and
submit
redistricting
plans,
as
well
as
to
create
a
digital
portal
that
allows
community
groups
to
submit
plans
and
comments.
Online
public
input
is
the
singularly
most
important
decision
that
this
committee
can
make.
J
It
ensures
that
there
is
transparency
and
the
redistricting
process,
instills
public
confidence
and
promotes
fairness.
Having
official
hearings
that
allow
for
citizen
and
community
input
affirms
that
the
equal
protection
clause
of
the
14th
amendment
will
be
honored,
it
also
aligns
with
the
principles
of
equal
protection
that
were
fundamental
to
tennessee's
baker
versus
car
decision
in
1962..
J
The
tennessee
naacp
has
other
concerns
that
can
be
fully
articulated.
If
hearings
are
allowed,
they
include
the
importance
of
maintaining
davidson
and
shelby
counties
as
whole
counties
when
it
comes
to
condition
congressional
redistricting
and
ensure
fair
redistricting
for
many
rural
communities,
and
I
might
add
that
most
of
the
tennessee
naacp
units
are
located
in
rural
counties
and
small
towns.
Finally,
it
is
important
to
note
that
the
redistricting
process
must
comply
with
the
14th
and
15th
amendments
of
the
constitution,
as
well
as
the
voting
rights
act.
J
B
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker
and
committee
members,
dick
williams,
I'm
a
state
chair
of
common
college
tennessee
we're
a
statewide
and
national
organization
that
hopefully
most
of
you
are
familiar
with
at
least
heard
of,
but
we're
interested
in
the
areas
of
open
government,
trans
transparency,
voting
rights
and
obviously
redistrict
redistricting.
K
K
Presentations
of
those
so
that
people
can
have
input,
maybe
they
can
only
talk
about
well,
if
you
do
this
on
my
county,
maybe
you
could
do
it
here
or
there,
and
obviously
mr
hines
and
the
staff,
and
you
all
are
going
to
have
to
figure
that
out,
but
we
need
to
have
it
again,
some
kind
of
draft
plan
or
plans
early
enough
for
citizen
groups
and
individuals
to
be
able
to
at
least
comment
to
their
legislator.
B
C
You
thank
you,
mr,
do
we
do
we
get
an
opportunity
to
ask
the
speaker's
questions.
C
B
Thank
you,
mr
leader
lamberth.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and,
to
that
point
to
my
friend
from
shelby
county.
I
I
know
that
this
is
just
a
first
meeting
and
mr
chairman,
I
just
want
to
say
I
really
appreciate
everything
that
mr
heim
shared
with
us
and
all
of
the
preliminary
comments
that
we
got
from
the
public
today.
Mr
chairman,
I
appreciate
your
leadership.
I
know
this
is
going
to
be
a
lengthy
process,
but
I
I
specifically
want
to
applaud
our
speaker
for
putting
together
a
bipartisan
committee.
That's
the
first
time.
B
That's
ever
happened
in
the
history
of
tennessee.
To
my
knowledge,
somebody
checked
that
for
me,
but
I
don't
think
that's
ever
occurred
before,
and
I
think
that
sets
the
right
tone
for
this.
Tennessee
has
grown.
Our
numbers
have
changed.
We
want
to
hear
from
you,
don't
let
the
fact
that
it's
a
statewide
plan
that
you
need
to
submit,
intimidate
you
in
any
way,
if
there's
an
area
that
you're
really
focused
on
submit
that
plan.
B
But
let
us
know
that
you
really
focus
the
most
on
one
area,
because
that's
what
we
want
and
what
we
need
is
both
republicans
and
democrats
to
get
this
process
right
is
for
everyone
in
tennessee
to
be
focused
on
this
and
to
share
with
us
your
ideas
on
how
we
can
fairly
legally
and
properly
just
redistribute
our
numbers,
and
I
just
want
to
say
from
a
legal
standpoint.
The
reason
we
do
that
is
look
at
these
charts
that
are
out
there
online
look
at
where
tennessee's
grown.
B
If
we
didn't
do
this
every
10
years,
you
would
have
some
state
house
reps
that
would
represent
10
or
20
000
people
and
others
that
would
literally
represent
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people.
It
would
not
be
fair,
so
it's
a
difficult
process,
but,
mr
chairman
to
this
committee,
I
really
really
appreciate
all
the
hard
work
I
know
we'll
all
go
through
and
thank
you
for
to
every
tennessean
that
wants
to
get
involved
in
this
process
for
helping
us
and
guiding
us
through
this
process.
K
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
the
leader's
comments.
I
think
we'd
be
remiss
if
we
didn't
recognize
doug
hymes
for
his
professionalism,
his
focus
his
hard
work
and
institutional
knowledge
he
brings
to
the
table
for
this
process.
He
is
a
very
important
component
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
he
and
his
staff
are
should
be
commending.
Thank
you,
doug
for
your
patience
with
us
today
and
meeting
with
us
and
and
giving
us
some
guidance.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
And
I'd
like
to
thank
the
public
thank
the
members
of
the
house
that
are
in
attendance
with
us
today
for
for
showing
up,
and
I'd
really
like
to
thank
my
assistant
for
the
past
17
years,
linda
bowers.
B
To
all
the
audience,
our
future
meetings,
the
dates
will
be
posted
on
our
website.
Mr
times,
would
you
inform
the
public
in
attendance
and
the
public
watching
how
to
access
our
website.
A
Yes,
mr
speaker,
so
taking
my
glasses
off,
but
on
the
for
those
of
you
in
the
in
the
room,
the
website
address
is
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen
for
you,
those
of
you
that
aren't
in
the
room.
If
you
go
to
the
tennessee
general
assembly
web
site,
you
can
go
under
house
committees
and
at
the
bottom
of
the
committee
list,
is
redistricting.
Click
on
that
and
that
web
page
has
the
members
of
the
committee
how
to
contact
them.
How
to
contact
the
chair?
How
to
contact
me.
A
It
also
has
a
tab
for
info
for
documents
which
will
include
what
the
committee
has
gone
over
and
approved
today
by
the
end
of
the
day
and
then
finally,
it
has
a
tab
for
plans
which
currently
has
a
link
to
the
current
house
districts
and
also
has
a
link
to
the
three
pieces
of
legislation
that
will
be
the
vehicles
for
the
house
senate
and
congressional
plans
going
forward.
So
that's
going
to
the
tennessee
general
assembly
website
committee's
house
and
redistricting
and
all
the
information
will
be
posted
there.
B
And
I'd
like
to
commend
the
committee
we
had
every
committee
member
show
up
today.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
if
there's
no
further
business,
we
will
adjourn
to
the
call
of
the
tear.