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A
Presenting
mematics,
we
have
chewie
representing
bolshevik's,
gambit
lauren,
representing
goldilocks
and
tam
representing
420.
there.
This
is
going
to
be
a
video.
So
don't
worry
if
there's
not
many
people
here,
I
do
think
a
lot
of
people
will
re-watch
the
video
do.
Does
anyone
need
to
leave
early
and
wants
to
go?
First.
A
A
Yeah
you
wanna
go
first,
okay,
so
this
format's
gonna
be
a
little
bit
different
than
but
not
much.
What
I'd
say
is
yeah
share
screen
go
through
your
proposal,
but
I
would
love
it
if
you
could
talk
trash
about
other
people's
proposal
and
why,
especially
now
I
say,
talk
trash.
Of
course.
A
What
I
mean
is
what
makes
your
proposal
better
than
the
other
proposals,
or
how
does
your
proposal
stack
up
against
other
proposals
and
making
that
contrast
very
dis,
very
specific,
and
that's
that
I
would
love
for
that
to
be
a
framing
that
is
used?
Why
is
your
proposal
different?
How
what
makes
your
proposal
different?
For
instance,
all
of
the
proposals
have
about
900
to
a
million
dollars
in
the
conviction,
voting
pool.
We
don't
have
to
be
labor
on
that.
You
know
everyone
went
for
almost
a
million
dollars
in
the
common
pool.
A
There
isn't
that
much
difference
there,
try
not
to
talk
about
how
your
proposal
gets
a
million
dollars
in
the
common
pool,
because
all
of
them
do,
but
you
know
why
does
you
know
like
the
big
difference
is
what
makes
you
different
than
the
other
proposals.
What
makes
you
stand
out?
What
are
the
hot
topic
issues
that
people
really
need
to
know
that
your
proposals,
fulfills-
and
you
know,
also
feel
free
to
use
your
time
to
talk
about
why
other
proposals
that
might
be
similar
are
not
as
good,
because
this
is
part
of
a
debate.
E
A
Okay
cool,
so
I
will
start
the
timer.
Everyone
gets
seven
minutes
of
talking
and
seven
minutes
of
q
a
for
this
for
this
hour
and
a
half
calls
so
about
15
minutes
per
person.
D
Yeah
well
so
I
I
was
running
some
tests
on
the
bonding
curve
on
the
end
of
of
2021
and
yeah,
I
was
comparing
some
of
the
proposals
and
yeah.
There
are
some
things
that
are
similar
and
others
that
are
different,
but
one
of
the
main
things
that
actually
made
me
dig
deeper
into
the
proposals
and
why
I
love
my
proposal
more
even
after
making
this.
D
This
analysis
is
about
the
reserve
ratio
and
how
it
affects
the
minting
of
new
tokens
and
how
it
also
affects
the
governance
so
like
in
420,
with
50
million
in
the
hatcher's
wheels
will
still
have
73
percent
of
of
the
governance
and
for
me,
I
think
that
it's
important
for
the
hatchers
to
not
be
always
in
the
center
of
of
of
the
governance
and
of
the
economy
and
two,
because
I
think
that
we
should
allow
other
people
to
enter
and
to
go
burn
with
us.
D
I
also
imagine
people
like
myself
or
young
people
that
is
just
approaching
the
community,
and
I
think
it
would
be
really
cool
that
we
can
allow
them
to
have
governance
and
not
just
be
like
okay
you're,
not
a
hatchery,
then
you're
never
gonna
have
as
much
governance
as
as
we're
going
to
have,
and
this
is
something
that
caught
my
attention
is
that
if
50
of
the
hatcher's
tokens
are
sold
with
50
million
rap
xta
in
the
bonding
curve,
the
price
of
the
token
drops
to
from
222
dollars
to
0.64.
D
So
it
only
needs
50
percent
of
the
hatchers
to
to
actually
take
the
the
token
price
below
one
wrap
ex
die,
even
when
50
million
have
entered
into
the
bonding
curve
yeah.
I
made
this
in
these
same
graphs
with
each
of
the
proposals
and
like
the
the
the
following,
that
is
mathematics
with
50,
with
50
million
in
entering
the
bonding
curve,
the
hatcheries
will
have
48
of
the
governance
and
yeah
here,
the
if
50
of
the
hatcher's
tokens
are
sold.
D
The
the
price
of
the
token
drops
from
75
dollars
to
60
to
16,
and
here
we
will
have
like
it
will
take
50
million
in
to
have
for
for
for
the
market
to
have
as
much
governance
as
the
hatchers
in
in
in
bolsheviks,
with
50
million
in
the
hatcher's
would
have
42
percent
of
the
governance
and
the
market
would
have
58
percent
of
the
governance.
D
Goldilocks
is
similar
in
this
distribution.
It
would
have
42
percent
for
the
hatchers
and
57
percent
for
the
market,
but
what
I
like
about
ostrom's
proposal
is
that
is
that
in
this
case,
where
people
have
put
50
million
entering
into
the
bonding
curve,
the
hatchers
will
have
38
34
of
the
governance
so
yeah.
D
I
think
it's
it's
good,
because
we
we
are,
we
were
here
and
we
initialized
the
project,
but
we
are
also
allowing
people
to
have
governance
as
they
enter
into
the
the
organization
and
into
the
bonding
curve
and
yeah.
I
think
it
would
be
really
cool
to
kogo
burn
with
with
the
market
and
also
that.
I
think
that
we
we
only
placed
1.5
million.
D
So
I
think,
like
it's,
it's
it's
good,
that
with
50
million
in
we
have
like
two
thirds
one
third
of
the
of
the
total
governance
and
the
market
has
like
two-thirds
of
the
total
governance.
D
Talkers
are
sold,
the
price
drops
only
from
33
to
18
die
so
yeah
the
capacity
from
for
the
hatchers
to
drop
the
the
the
token
price
is
lower
than
in
other
proposals,
and
that's
my
time.
That's
what
I
wanted
to
say.
A
D
And
I
also
like
that
we
have
a
nine
percent
of
of
a
spending
limit
in
the
conviction
voting.
D
I
think
that
it's
good
to
not
be
able
to
pass
like
a
hundred
and
more
million
a
hundred
and
more
thousand
dollar
proposals.
I
think
it's
good
that
we
can
have
like
a
good
accountability
of
our
funds
and
that
by
having
a
lower
spending
limit,
we
also
encourage
the
proposals
to
to
be
more
economically
efficient.
A
D
Yeah
and-
and
I
also
think
that
it's
really
cool
to
have
an
opening
price
of
one
dollar
because
maybe
will
participate
as
much
as
they
would
like
in
the
in
the
hatch
they.
They
cannot
actually
participate
and
have
like
a
second
opportunity
to
to
acquire.
Tc
tokens
and
governance
start
with
the
initialization
of
the
bonding
curve.
A
F
I
have
a
question
so
in
austin's
baby
the
conviction
growth
is
three
days.
Can
you
just
explain
a
little
bit
more
why
you
went
with
such
a
short
conviction,
growth.
D
Yeah,
I
I
liked
the
conviction
growth
to
be
fast,
because
in
one
call
with
angela,
she
told
me
that
if
things
gets
too
slow,
maybe
proposals
or
voting
can
get
stagnated
and
people
forget
about
it
and
maybe
even
be
able
to
pass
a
proposal
just
because
they
forgot,
if,
if
they
lower,
if
the
minimum
conviction
would
have
been
really
low.
But
that's
why
I
am
trying
to
have
like
a
three-day
conviction
growth
so
that
the
the
dow
moves
fast.
D
I
I
think
it
would
be
really
beneficial
for
us
to
have
like
a
a
fast
pace
on
voting
than
than
to
maybe
say
like
okay,
we
are
going
to
vote
for
this
proposal
and-
and
we
need
too
much
time
or
to
to
to
pass
it
or
or
that.
Maybe
someone
can
just
forget
about
it
and
and
and
not
be
so
active
on
on
on
the
voting
and
on
the
proposals.
A
D
Yeah
for
sure
like
if
we're
gonna
have
like
an
initial
buy
and
we
are
trying
to
have
like
the
lowest
price
for
for
the
community,
then
let's
be
able
to
provide
that
as
much
tc
as
we
can
for
the
community
so
yeah.
I
like
I
like
this
approach
because
it
will
allow
us
to
have
like
284
k
of
tokens,
and
this
is
like
a
10
of
the
total
distribution.
D
So
actually
the
community
will
have
like
the
10
at
10
percent
of
of
yeah,
of
the
the
tokens
that
were
minted
in
the
initial
distribution.
E
I
want
to
know
why
you're
opening
prices
in
20,
25
30
and
what
serious
investor
would
bother
investing
in
something
with
such
a
low
valuation,
for
if
they're
not
valuing
themselves.
Why
would
I
bother.
D
Yeah
I
I
would,
I
would
say
that
it's
it's
because
not
having
a
short-term
vision
but
having
like
a
long-term
vision
of
the
growth
of
the
token
and
of
the
stability
of
the
economy,
because
the
reserve
ratio
as
a
scepticist
reserve
ratio
matters
and
like
he
was
the
first
one.
That
was
like
no,
the
reserve,
let's
play
with
the
reserve
ratio,
and
then
he
realized
that
the
reserve
ratio
matters
and
he
like
drastically
changed
his
point
of
view.
So
yeah.
D
I
I
I
think
that
if
we
have
a
low
reserve
ratio,
other
people
will
not
be
able
to
have
governance
and
also
the
the
the
people
who
is.
The
hatcheries,
will
have
too
much
influence
and
power
within
the
token,
because,
like
people
would
have
to
place
x
amount
of
times
the
the
the
amount
of
money
that
we
place
to
have
like
the
same
amount
of
of
governance
or
at
least
near
so
yeah.
D
I
think
that
if
we
had
a
high
opening
price,
what
we
are
doing
is
that
we
are
automatically
giving
the
hatchers
like
the
the
the
pan
in
the
hand,
and
I.
G
D
G
Can
I
still
is
there
still
time
for
a
question
so
on
that
point
of
taking
out
the
power
from
the
hatcheries?
D
Yeah,
but
it
it
will
still
be
required.
D
50
million
entering
the
bonding
curve
to
at
least
have
twice
of
the
governance
of
the
hatchers,
so
yeah,
and
also,
I
think
that
hatchers
are
gonna
acquire
more
tc
as
the
the
the
initial
price
is
the
same
of
the
hatch
so
maybe
like
between
the
hatch
and
now
you
you
could
like
gather
some
funds
or
you
could
and
you
can,
and
you
want
to
buy
more
tc
than
the
one
you
bought
in
the
hatch.
D
People
can
actually
buy
f
from
the
hatcher's
and
like
buy
like
hatchers,
can
continue
buying
and,
and
that
way
this,
this
governance
will
be
more
even
for
for
the
hatchers
and
and
hutchers
can
profit
from
the
for
from
the
initial
price.
C
D
Post
I
made
a
forum
post
because
yeah
I
I
tested
this
thing,
the
same
thing
with
10
million
wrap
x,
die
in
and
with
50
million
in.
So
it's
like
the
scenario
of
how
how
how
many
tokens
are
minted
with
with
that
amount
of
money
and
what
happens
if,
if
hatch
or
cell,
so
I
am
going
to
paste
this
here
in
the
in
the
parameters
chat.
E
D
The
price
lower
will
actually
give
more
value
to
the
project
than
to
the
individuals,
and
I
think
that
we
should
favor
the
project
and
not
so
much
the
individuals
like
that's
that's
the
approach
of
ostrom's
baby.
A
Well
said:
well
said:
oh
sorry,
I'm
gonna
pause
this
okay!
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Yes,
thank
you
for
supporting.
That
was
always
a
tough
one,
always
a
tough
one!
Well
tam
you
you're
deaf
and
there
we
go.
Would
you
like
to
represent
420.
B
B
Okay,
fantastic
all
right,
so
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
in
a
minute,
but
first
I
just
want
to
talk
about
sort
of
the
philosophy
of
the
420
proposal.
So
it
comes
it
comes
about.
It
came
about
after
trying
to
incorporate
many
different
perspectives
and
insights
and
hearing
a
lot
of
different
approaches
in
reasoning
and
rationale.
B
B
You
know
a
resilient
commons
ecosystem
and
that
the
reason
people
should
become
hatchers
was
to
build
this
long-term
regenerative
economy
over
short
time,
individual
gains.
So
the
you
know
we
have
a
low
time
preference
quite
frankly,
so
it
has
the
longest
vesting
period
of
any
of
the
proposals.
It
has
the
second
highest
tribute
which
is
the
you
know,
the
a
and
augmented
bonding
curve.
Are
these
tributes
that
go
to
fund
the
the
women's
pool?
B
So
it
has
the
second
highest
tribute,
but
after
the
first
step
change
of
goldilocks,
it
would
actually
have
the
first
highest
tribute.
I
think
so
the
the
investing
is
long.
The
tributes
are
for
people
who
want
to
invest
in
these
like
an
impactful
projects.
You
know
they
want
to
profit
from
any
volatility
in
the
price
but
at
the
same
time,
their
participation
in
the
volatility
of
the
price
funds,
projects
and
funds,
the
commons
pool
to
fund
projects
to
advance
token
engineering
and
so
yeah.
Those
are
the
main
things.
B
The
idea
of
the
long
vesting
period
is
giving
the
tec
time
to
really
find
our
feet.
You
know
I
was
really
impressed
with
the
the
post
for
the
fledgling
and
it's
this
idea
that,
like
okay,
we
hatch
and
then
we
fledge
and
birds
get.
B
Can
increase
by
10
per
10
times
when
they
go
from
this
like
hatching
to
fledgling
to
flying,
and
I
liked
that
analogy
a
lot
I
think,
keeping
our
token
engineering
as
our
north
star.
Actually,
sorry
I,
this
is
taking
a
little
longer.
B
B
So
if
our
price
is
too
low,
we
could
envision
a
coordinated
group
of
actors,
basically
buying
the
equal
right,
the
exact
same
amount
of
hatcher
tokens
and
just
taking
over
the
tec,
so
raising
the
price
a
little
meant
to
be
a
deterrent
from
that,
and
then
the
conviction
voting
is
meant
to
be
a
way
to
have
large
projects
funded
as
well,
so
the
opening
pri,
where
are
we
starting
so
the
token
freeze,
so
I've
kind
of
covered
this,
the
longest
token
freeze.
B
I
think
it's
really
important
to
give
the
tc
time
to
find
our
feet.
We
spent
a
year
and
a
half
bootstrapping
this
or
more,
let's
give
ourselves
as
much
time
or
more
to
actually
let
the
tec
get
off
the
ground
and
then
maybe
with
the
the
prices
here.
What
comes
out
of
this?
You
know.
The
market
cap
is
around
eight
to
nine
million
wrapped
ecsty.
The
idea
there
is
think
about
this
community
like
this.
B
This
is
a
community
forget
about
the
price
forget
about
the
token
it
is
thought
leaders
experienced,
web3
builders,
token
engineers,
we're
all
token
engineers.
I
think
this
value,
I
think
the
value
of
this
community
is
actually
much
higher
than
some
of
the
other
market
caps,
and
I
think
nine
eight
to
nine
million
is
probably
actually
modest
for
for
the
knowledge
capital
within
this
community.
A
B
Okay
cool,
so
I
also
sort
of
mentioned
the
commons
tributes.
What
else
can
I
say
here?
The
reserve
ratio
is
by
far
the
lowest
one
and,
if
anything,
I
think
that's
the
achilles
heel
of
this
proposal.
I'm
sure
I'm
going
to
get
a
lot
of
questions
about
it.
During
the
q.
B
A
B
You
know
I
started
thinking
about
like
reserve
ratios
and
digging
and
doing
some
research,
and
I
think
it
surprised
me
maybe
it'll
surprise
you
to
learn
to
that.
The
commercial
banks,
retail
banks
in
the
united
states
have
a
percentage
reserve
ratio
of
exactly
zero
percent,
so
their
reserve
ratio
used
to
be
high
and
has
gone
down
and
down
and
down,
and
I
think
I
was
in
2020
that
the
price
actually
has
hit
the
floor.
B
You
know
it
can't
get
any
lower
unless
it's
negative,
so
it
actually
got
me
feeling
a
little
bit
like
okay
reserve
ratios
will
create
volatility
that
will
attract
new
people
and
the
more
people
that
we
attract
the
higher
the
funding
pool
will
grow.
So,
let's
use
that
to
our
advantage
and
I
actually
got
a
little
less
scared
of
the
reserve
ratio
being
low.
It
has
some
other
side
effects,
though,
as
wonka
mentioned
with
governance.
That
is
important.
B
So
what
else
can
I
share?
I'm
going
to
jump
to
yeah
so
to
hear
this
was
really
affected
me
as
well.
I
really
appreciate
wonka's
work.
The
need
to
buy
from
the
tec
the
one
for
the
420
is
basically
impossible.
B
Then
you
could
not
actually
buy
more
governance
in
the
tc.
So
that's
a
positive,
but
also
negative,
of
course,
and
then
I
got
a
little
worried
about
like
ostrom's
baby.
It
just
takes
six
million
dollars
for
someone
to
it
reads
to
me,
like
it
takes
six
million
dollars
to
have
equivalent
governance
rights
of
the
hatcher's
that
felt
like
undervaluing
ourselves
and
and
opening
a
risk
surface
that
I
thought.
Perhaps
we
we
don't
want
to.
B
B
Okay,
cool
the
initial
buy
right,
so
this
is
where
I
started
playing
with
the
price.
You
know
the
original
proposal
was
around
one
and
I
thought
okay.
Well,
let's,
let's
try
to
make
a
larger
market
cap.
Let's
try
to
make
this
less
interesting
to
try
to
hijack
our
entire
dow
in
the
last
year
and
a
half
plus
worth
of
our
work.
B
So
that's
where
the
price
went,
and
then
the
price
after
the
initial
buy
ended
up
at
420
and
that's
how
the
this
project
got
its
name
or
this
proposal
got
its
name
and
then
in
here
I
think
for
the
tao
voting.
The
most
important
thing
for
me
here
was
making
sure
that
everyone
had
everyone.
Who's
in
our
community
had
a
chance
to
see
the
proposal
before
it
before
it
passed.
B
B
Okay,
I
think
I'll
just
try
to
be
quick,
then
so
with
conviction
voting.
It's
really
about.
You
know
having
a
you
know,
okay,
so
this
is
sort
of
very
high,
actually
so
a
slower
conviction,
growth,
but
a
high
spending
limit.
So
my
thinking
is
like
okay,
big
projects
will
go
through,
but
you
really
have
to
have
a
lot
of
conviction
for
those
to
go
through
they're,
not
gonna,
you
know,
go
very
quick,
and
so
maybe
we
allow
other
people
to
ask
questions.
A
E
B
Oh
well,
it
really
screws
up
other
parameters.
Actually,
so
when
you
raise
that
parameter,
the
the
the
bonding
curve,
like
you
got
with
the
bonding,
the
bonding
curve
ends
up
getting
very,
very
low
so
like
it
was,
it
was
a
matter
of
trial
and
error.
Actually,
a
lot
of
trial
and
error.
B
Almost
breaking
point,
I
think,
actually
you
know
like
it
just
couldn't
get
any
higher
than
that
without
causing
other
instabilities,
and
especially
in
the
bonding
curve.
You
know
we
would
have
very
little
capital
in
the
bonding
curve
like
very
little
assets
underlying
the
bonding
card.
It
would
basically
be
a
retail
u.s
bank.
H
Yes,
so,
okay,
so,
even
though
we
like
build
this
culture
based
on
values
and
inclusiveness,
so
basically
with
420,
the
tec
economy
would
need
to
crash
and
be
rebuilt
from
the
ground
like
for
non-hatchers
to
actually
have
a
chance
in
the
community,
and-
and
I
mean
because
of
the
reserve
ratio
difference,
it
would
only
end
up
being
also
exclusive
like
starting
from
some
point.
So
my
my
question
is:
how
do
you
feel
that
that
420
is
is
inclusive
for
non-catchers
like
under
which
specific
circumstances.
B
Yeah,
I
love
that
question
thanks.
It
is
really
really
like.
That's
like
the
worst
part
of
this
proposal.
Actually
it's
extremely
difficult,
and
I
think
where
this
is
most
felt,
the
most
is
it's
sort
of
like
you
know,
people
will
work
in
our
community
and
contribute
in
our
community
and
the
amount
of
tokens
we'd
be
able
to
offer
them
would
be
minuscule
compared
to
what
hatcher's
have
right.
So
it's
sort
of
like
that
feels
really
bad.
B
You
know
the
idea
that
people
would
earn
tokens
and
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
come
close
to
people
who
might
have
already
exited
the
community
in
terms
of
like
being
present
and
on
on
the
discord
and
contributing
so
there's
one
thing
that
I
actually
thought
was
like
something
that
we
could
look
at
right
and
this
came
up
in
a
different
context,
but
it
was
turning
off
the
bonding
curve,
like
you
know,
coming
up
with
something
different.
B
Some
other
model
that
is
impossibility
of
red,
like
having
tokens,
have
a
different
release
than
what
has
been
pre
preset
in
the
bonding
curve,
and
I
think
to
be
honest
with
you
other
than
doing
that.
I
actually
think
that's
probably
the
only
solution
with
this
proposal
is
that
there
would
be
some
time
where
we
want
to
turn
off
the
bonding
curve.
C
I
have
also
one
question
about
the
the
conviction
boating.
Don't
you
think
that
such
a
slow
conviction
growth
may
make
the
dc
a
bit
sluggish
like
when
you
look
at
the
numbers
it
gets.
I
think
reasonable
at
around
one
month
the
percentages
of
people
of
votes
needed
to
pass,
because,
like
I,
I
like
your
approach
of
being
able
to
fund
bigger
stuff
but
yeah
it.
C
It
starts
to
be
able
to
get
funded
around
one
month,
which
is
which
requires
that
the
tc
tokens
are
staked
at
the
same
place
and
are
not
voting
for
something
else.
So
you
kind
of
get
into
this
rhythm
of
maybe
one
thing
a
month
more
or
less,
and
you
have
to
you-
have
to
maintain
operations.
You
have
to
pay
the
contributors.
Do
you
think
that
don't
you
think
that
that
could
maybe
lead
to
some
to
some
problems?
There.
B
Yeah
I
I
for
some
reason
I
actually
am
seeing
that
you
know
nothing
can
get
passed
in
less
than
you
know
a
day,
so
it's
going
to
take
a
day
for
anything
to
get
past,
but
then
around
three
days
you
know
you
need
a
hot
like
a
lot
of
whales,
basically
to
pass
something
in
three
days,
something
high
and
then
seven
days
and
two
weeks
things
become
a
little
bit
less
blocked.
B
So
I
don't
know
I
sort
of
felt
like
I
didn't
think
a
week
was
unreasonable
for
for
it
actually
it,
but
I
also
didn't.
Maybe
you
can
show
me
where
you're
saying
that
it's
one
month,
because.
C
Yeah
so
so
there,
the
percentages
like
for
to
to
pass
anything
in
one
week.
You
need
around
20
for
pretty
low
funding
numbers
like
if
you
want
to
pay
operations,
you're
looking
at
least
at
I
don't
know,
maybe
24
000,
I
guess
so
yeah.
I
just
I
wanted
to
yeah
ask
a
bit
about
your
logic.
Behind
that
20,
I
think
is,
is
a
big
number.
B
Yeah
just
to
answer
it
yeah
yeah.
I
know
that's
true
and
it's
just
one
of
the
trade-offs
to
sort
of
like
to
try
to
get
it
right.
You
know,
I
don't
know
like
it
could
take
a
week
and
it
would
need
like
a
25.
000
request
would
need
almost
you
know
a
quarter
of
the
votes
to
pass
in
a
week
and
would
need
much
less
to
pass.
You
know
in
two
weeks
or
a
month,
and
maybe
that's
okay
for
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
request.
B
Maybe
two
weeks
isn't
unreasonable
and
the
smaller
the
the
proposal,
the
faster
it
would
go
through
or
let's
say,
with
less
conviction,
it
would
go
through.
I
That
tam
was
referencing
available
for
extended
viewing.
A
Yeah
this
is
the
voters
pamphlet.
I
can
post
it
in
like
basically
every
channel
right
now,
okay
yeah,
but
while,
while
that's
happening,
maybe
noggin,
you
know
because
of
your
time
zone,
it's
the
latest
for
you.
I
want
to
give
you
the
chance
to
go
next.
C
Yeah
sure,
thanks
I'll
share
my
screen:
okay,
yeah
so
well.
The
the
idea
behind
this
proposal
is
of
ambition
behind
it
is
to
be
a
middle
of
the
road
thing
like
I,
I
looked
at
the
others
and
kind
of
took
the
parts
that
I
agreed
most
on
and
tried
to
try
to
put
them
together,
so
so
yeah.
So
actually
this
this
proposal
ends
up
having
the
highest
common
pool
of
all
the
proposals
and
like
it's
over
a
million
there's
more
than
hundred
thousand
dollars
difference
to
the
to
the
lowest
one.
C
So
I
think
that's
significant
has
the
second
highest
war
chest
for
the
for
the
tc.
It
allows
the
tc
to
buy
well
a
lot
of
of
tokens
just
at
the
before
in
the
initial
buy,
and
so
in
that
way
it
kind
of
aligns
with
with
ostrom's
baby.
C
It
still
has
a
a
fun,
a
conviction,
voting
closer
to
the
to
the
to
the
420,
but
not
that
extreme,
because
I
agree
that
the
tc
should
should
fund
big
stuff
and
try
to
play
big,
and
I
think
also
it's
other
proposals
underestimate
the
the
costs
of
of
just
running
operations
and
generally
just
keeping
the
lights
on.
So
I
think
it
should
be
possible
for
the
tc
to
yeah
to
fund
lots
of
stuff
and
do
it
in
a
in
a
fashion.
Do
it
fast?
C
The
bonding
curve
has
a
lower
reserve
ratio
than
the
three
other
proposals
and
it's
the
second
lowest
reserve
ratio,
which
gives
the
price
a
lot
of
growth
opportunity,
which
I
think
is
important.
I
think
a
20
reserve
ratio
is
not
ambitious
enough.
C
I
think
the
price
should
be
able
to
reflect
that,
and
if
we
have
enough
volatility,
yeah
investors
will
join
and
the
and
we
will
have
an
an
active
curve
and
people
will
buy,
they
will
sell,
and
each
of
those
buys
and
sell
would
get
some
some
tribute
which
will
help
us
fund
stuff.
A
C
C
Okay,
yeah,
so
back
to
that
the
the
tribute
is
actually
one
of
the
lowest
of
or
even
it
is
the
lowest
in
the
of
the
five
proposals.
It's
also
a
bit,
maybe
the
part
with
which
I
would
be
more
willing
to
change
or
like.
I
think
it
could
be
risen,
a
bit
maybe
to
five
four
percent,
even
five.
C
My
logic
behind
it
was
to
put
myself
in
the
shoes
of
somebody
who's
going
to
buy
because
we
are
a
very
aligned
community.
We
have
this
whole
trusted
seat
and
you
know
we
are
here
to
make
a
difference,
but
once
we
open
the
bonding
curve
and
once
we
launch
the
tc,
we
will
have
to
speak
to
everybody
and
if
somebody
just
learns
about
this
stuff
and
starts
doing
his
research
and
then
sees
that
from
the
beginning,
there
is
like
anything
you
want
to
put
in
they're
going
to
take
like
20
or
10
percent.
C
So
I
think
3.5
is
a
is
a
number
which,
for
somebody
who
just
which
is
reasonable
at
the
time
of
selling
and
at
the
time
of
buying,
if
you,
if
you
want
to
do
something
paying
a
three
percent
quote,
is,
is
common
in
normal
finance
and
I
think
it's
it's
enough
to
to
be
stomachable
for
you
and
also
enough
to
make
a
difference,
because,
in
the
at
the
end
of
the
day,
somebody
who
buys
and
sell
will
have
seven
percent,
which
is
significant,
especially
with
the
high
volatility
of
the
price,
which
will
push
the
price
the
price,
the
token
price
height
enough.
C
To
make
this
seven
percent
a
significant
number.
I
think
so
it's
30
yeah.
So
this
is.
This
is
mainly
the
the
thing
which
I
think
this
is.
This
proposal
is
a
bit
more
ambitious
than
others,
while
manages
to
have
the
highest
common
pool,
the
second
highest
tc
watches,
which,
which
also
will
help
us
to
pay
contributors,
make
revenue
by
using
the
protocol
liquidity
to
to
to
provide
liquidity
at
uni
swap
or
wherever.
C
We
want
to
make
partnerships
with
other
dows,
and
you
know
I
think
that
yeah
it
will
give
the
token
weight,
and
this
bonding
curves
make
that
make,
gives
the
token
weight
and
also
at
the
same
time,
allows
the
tc
to
have
a
pretty
big
war
chest
while
being
completely
transparent
and
to
preempt.
Doris
durga's
question
be
also
fair,
because
I
don't
think
it's
fair
to
open
the
bonding
curve
at
a
price
at
a
20x
for
everybody
who
just
happened
to
be
around
a
year
ago.
C
A
F
C
Yeah,
well,
I,
like
another
difference
to
other
proposals,
is
I
think
the
bonding
curve
should
stay
or
the
the
dow
configuration
should
be
as
stable
as
possible.
I'd
like
you
know,
other
proposals
want
to
change
it
like
each
month
or
whatever,
which
is
okay,
and
that
requires
a
lower,
lower
support
but
yeah.
I
I
would
like
to
be
the
the
I
would
like
the
structure
to
be
as
as
stable
as
possible.
C
I
think
the
difference
like
between
88
and
91.
It's
not
that
big.
I
think
the
the
crossing
the
the
90
line
is
more
of
a
psychological
thing
like
so
anybody
who
wants
to
to
really
make
a
proposal
to
change
the
dow
should
in
his
head
think
that
over
90
of
the
people
are
going
to
be
in
favor.
Of
that,
like
there
is
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
really
high
consensus.
C
B
Can
I
jump
in
on
that
too,
because
I
share
lauren's
concern
rallying
cry
and
the
reason
I
do
is
just
because
of
it's
not
quite
voter
apathy.
It's
just
you
know
people
who
hold
tokens
who
aren't
going
to
even
know
the
vote
happens.
B
B
B
All
right
yeah
good
point,
so
then
I
guess
it
just
means
that
ten
percent,
like
nine
percent,
could
say
no,
but
more
than
that
couldn't.
C
Yes-
and
I
think
also,
I
think
it's
it's.
B
C
C
I
still
expect
the
quorum
to
be
able
to
reach
easily
and
I
I
still
expect
voting
power
to
be
concentrated
enough
in
initial
hatcheries,
at
least
at
the
beginning,
to
make
to
make
quick
changes
if
necessary
and
then
once
the
tc
grows.
Yeah,
then,
then
not
anymore,
but
it.
I
think
it's
okay,
that
if
the
tc
grows
a
lot,
it
becomes
the
more
difficult
to
change
stuff
once
it
reaches
maturity.
G
C
It
will
cause
a
high
velocity,
mainly
at
the
beginning
like
well,
it
might
be
it
would.
It
will
be
more
volatile
that
that
the
other
ones
I
made,
I
kind
of
I
think
it
was
here.
I
played
a
bit
with
it.
Yes,
this
one,
I
here
I
just
added
a
lot
of
of
pretty
high
30
million
dice,
and
so
you
can
see
it.
It
still
continues
growing.
The
curve
doesn't
get
that
flat.
C
Even
if
the
token
price
is
already
222,
so
yeah
the
price
will
be
volatile.
I
think,
on
the
other
hand,
I
think
we
are
underestimating
how
much
this
can
grow
like
really.
Okay,
if
the
hedge
wasn't
maybe
as
big
as
we
expected,
we
only
we
only
raised
one
and
a
half
million
dollars,
but
if,
if
we
really
want
to
to
be
to
become
as
big
as
I
think
we
want
to
and
is
important
in
this
space,
I
think
we
will
start
see
having
bigger
numbers
and
there
is.
C
E
Doesn't
the
low
price
basically
mean
that
a
whale
can
just
come
and
buy
the
entire
tec.
C
Yes,
but
I
think
I
think
in
this
case
I
was
it
quankas
cool
graph
there.
I
think
it's
this
one
actually,
with
with
this
bonding
curve.
It
wouldn't
be
that
easy
so
in
if
we
start,
we
start
low
and
people
would
be
able
like
hatchers,
and
people
like
that
would
be
able
to
kind
of
buy
a
bit
more
at
normal
prices.
But
if
somebody
just
tries
to
make
a
really
big
buy
yeah
it
would,
it
would
be,
it
would
become
expensive
very
fast.
Where
is
it
here?
C
C
So
it
would
yeah
it
would
take
25
million
of
tc
to
kind
of
overpower
the
the
the
hatcheries
right
of
the
bed
the
later
it
it
happens,
the
more
difficult
it
would
be.
I
think
that
is
kind
of
reasonable,
also
because
I
think
the
more,
as
I
said,
the
more
we
grow
the
more
difficult
it
will
be.
E
D
Yeah,
my
question
made
me
around
that,
like
do,
you
think
like
we
can
make
more
out
of
the
tributes
by
more
transactions
than
with
a
higher
tribute.
C
Like
you,
you
would,
you
would
really
have
to
sit
down
and
do
the
numbers.
I
would
hope,
yes,
because
I
think
it's
volatile
enough
to
to
happen,
but
I
can't
I
can't
give
you
a
a
direct
answer.
I
think
we
should
just
sit
down
and
and
do
some
some
math
there
and
see
how
stuff
would
look
yeah,
but
I
I
I
would
hope
so
and
I
think,
if
there's
somebody
who
wants
to
do
a
direct
donation
to
the
tc,
that's
always
a
possibility.
C
A
C
A
Thank
you
so
much
well,
so
we
have
two
more
proposals
left,
chewie
or
lauren,
which
one
of
you
would
like
to
go.
First,.
H
B
A
And
I
want
to
just
say
right
before
you
go:
let's
get
in
the
meme
channel.
I
was
having
a
lot
of
fun
memeing
during
mathematics
and
if
you
guys
want
to
meme
some
of
the
concepts
that
are
popping
up,
we
can
we
can
use
this
as
a
meme
party,
as
well
as
a
learning
opportunity.
A
B
Minutes,
I'm
gonna
hop
and
I'm
gonna
come
back
and
watch
this
later
tomorrow
and
my
children.
B
G
F
Okay,
cool,
so
I'm
gonna
start,
I'm
gonna
represent
goldilocks,
so
the
goldilocks
concept
is
really
like
to
have
nice,
simple
numbers
and,
at
the
same
time
find
the
right
balance
of
what's
just
right.
So
we've
seen
a
lot
of
proposals
that
are
kind
of
extreme
on
one
side
or
extreme,
on
the
other.
Goldilocks
is
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
the
road
on
most
params,
but
I'll
walk
through
the
params
and
the
voters,
pamphlet
and
kind
of
just
do
a
little
bit
of
a
quick
comparison.
F
This
is
how
I'm
gonna,
what's
my
plan,
so
goldilocks
has
a
token
for
26
weeks
in
a
tokapo
of
52
weeks,
so
it's
six
months
in
a
year.
So
this
is
like
right
in
the
middle
of
the
road
78
78
total
week,
it's
about
a
year
and
a
half
so
right
in
the
middle
of
the
road,
and
I
think
six
months
is
really
the
right
amount
of
time
for,
like
hatchers
or
for
the
tec
to
like
really
get
started
and
start
building
up
credibility.
F
F
To
be
honest,
I
really
just
like
the
opening
price
less
than
one
dollar
I
mean
hatcher's
bought
the
tc
tokens
for
one
rough
xy,
one
dollar
equivalent,
and
now
it's
like
hatchers
are
just
taking
a
little
bit
of
hit
of
a
hit
in
order
to
make
sure
that
the
reserve
ratio
is
reasonable
and
blah
blah
blah
blah.
But
I
think
that
with
goldilocks
we
get
a
good
reserve
ratio
and
also
a
good
opening
price.
F
So
it's
like
hackers
aren't
losing
and
then,
after
the
initial
buy,
the
opening
price
does
get
bumped
up
to
a
dollar.
Thirty,
eight,
so
yeah,
okay,
even
in
austin's
baby,
it
gets
bumped
up
to
a
dollar
after
the
initial
buy,
but
there's
no
security.
There's
no
like
this
like
price
floor.
It's
like
you
know,
people
could
be.
The
price
could,
like.
The
price
starts
out
lower
for
the
hatchers
than
they
even
started
with,
and
then
their
tokens
are
lost
locked
for
a
whole
bunch
of
time.
F
Like
an
awesome
baby
case,
it's
like
a
year
and
a
half
in
which,
like
the
the
price
floor,
is
less
than
what
they
paid
for
their
tokens
and
I
just
don't
really
think
that's
part
of
the
hatchery,
so
the
reserve
ratio
of
goldilocks
is
around
20
and
I
really
think
that
this
is
ideal,
as
we've
seen
like
with
the
criticism
of
420
having
a
low
reserve
ratio,
basically
puts
too
much
governance
price
in
the
hands
of
the
hatcher's.
F
In
the
the
case
with,
like
I
mean
I
opened
these
proposals
up,
so
it's
like
wonka
had
that
nice,
like
50
million
with
like
a
50
million
market
cap,
it's
like
kind
of
like
a
50-ish,
50
split,
there's
actually
more
going
to
the
market
once
we
have
a
50
million
market
cap
and
then
in
the
case
of
goldilocks,
I
mean
in
the
case
of
420.
F
It's
like
the
hatcheries
are
still
over
half
like
they're
still
holding
over
half,
even
though
we've
like
pushed
the
token
price
up
like
way
high,
and
I
I
think
that
the
tc
one
of
the
core
values
is
like
this
inclusivity
and
bringing
people
in
that
are
value
aligned
and
then
we're
building
things
together.
F
So
I
think
that,
having
that
openness
is
really
important,
taking
care
of
the
hatcheries
also
taking
care
of
the
people
coming
in
in
the
goldilocks
repository
the
other
ones,
they're
still
like
one
million
dollars
in
the
common
pool,
so
the
goalie
lost
proposal
we
achieve
like
hatchers,
aren't
starting
at
a
loss
with
lower
than
one
dollar
plus
the
the
token
is
volatile
enough
that,
like
it
still,
it
still
does
the
nice
like
when
you
buy
things,
the
price
goes
up
with
a
reserve
ratio
of
20,
but
it's
not
so
radical
that
hatchers
are
ruling
governments
plus
we
have
a
million
dollars
in
the
common
point,
and
I
think
that
is
really
really
ideal.
F
So
for
downloading
parameters
goldilocks
once
again,
you
can
see
is
like
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
the
road.
Here
I,
the
the
the
support
required,
was
reduced
a
little
bit,
I
think,
with
more
people
coming
in.
Oh
actually,
I
didn't
talk
about
the
entry
and
eggs
attributes,
I'm
going
to
go
back
quickly,
entry
and
exert
tributes;
yeah,
oh
wait!
So
also
when
you're
looking
at
the
voters
pamphlet,
you
know
that
the
red
numbers
basically
are
very
difficult
or
impossible
to
change
so
like
when
it
comes
to
entering
exit
tribute.
F
We
can
change
these
proposals
and
by
passing
a
dow
vote
and
in
the
case
of
goldilocks,
it's
actually
kind
of
embedded
into
the
strategy
of
the
proposals.
It's
starting
out
with
a
pretty
high
entry,
tribute
22
and
an
exit
tribute
of
two
percent
and
then
over
time
there,
it's
like
every
month
reducing
the
entry
tribute
by
four
percent
and
increasing
the
exit
tribute
by
two
percent
for
for
six
months.
F
Basically,
until
you
end
up
with
like
12
and
8
or
something
or
I
think
but
anyways,
I
think
having
the
high
entry
to
boot
at
the
very
beginning
at
launch
is
really
good.
Actually
because
it
brings
people
into
the
tc
and
and
they're
kind
of
making
like
a
conscious
donation
at
the
very
early
stages.
F
Are
who
are
value
aligned
so,
but
you
know,
there's
been
like
the
debate
on
goldilocks
proposal
is
really
people
don't
like
the
entry
and
execute,
but
I
feel
like
this
is
the
like
everything
else.
People
are
like
good
point.
Entering
executive
is
a
thing
that
people
disagree
with,
but
you
we
can
pass.
F
We
can
pass
the
dow
vote
and
change
this,
and
if,
after
the
comments
upgrade,
we
don't
like
the
high
entry
tribute
and
the
exit
tribute,
we
can
also
create
a
forum
post
and
pass
the
download
in
order
to
change
his
parameters
and
actually
we'll
have
to
in
order
to
follow
the
strategy
of
goldilocks
so
going
into
the
dow
voting
params
just
because,
like
with
these
davon
parents,
this
is
the
way
that
the
the
parameters
in
any
other
circumstance
get
changed.
I
think
having
swift
governance
is
important,
so
goldilocks
has
a
total
seven
day.
F
Seven
day,
vote
vote
duration.
It's
got
sorry,
it's
five
day,
vote
duration
and
then,
if
there's
a
triggered
quiet
ending
period,
there's
there's
still
seven
days
both
still
can
get
passed
within
seven
days.
I
think
the
five-day
voteration
is
is
really
good,
because
you
can
have
the
delegated
voting
period
of
three
days
and
the
quiet
ending
period
of
three
days.
F
So,
if
there's
contention
within
the
delegates,
the
delegates
can
trigger
an
extension
of
the
two
days
like
to
be
added
to
the
voteration,
and
I
think
that,
if
there's
contention
within
the
delegates
they
should
their
windows
should
be
within
the
quiet,
ending
period
window.
F
Cool
okay,
conviction,
voting
conviction,
voting
is
really
important,
so
the
conviction
growth,
something
to
keep
in
mind-
is
that
conviction,
growth
really
kind
of
talks
out
because
conviction,
growth.
It's
like
half-life.
It's
like
increases
more
rapidly
in
the
early
stages
and
like
it's
decreasing,
like
the
rate
at
which
it
increases
decreases
and
it
kind
of
maxes
out
at
four
times
the
conviction
growth
so
just
like.
F
So
I
think,
like
a
month,
is
a
really
good
period
of
time
so
that
it's
like
there
can
be
people
considering
it,
and
then
people
who
have
conviction
could
be
staking
their
votes
there,
but
it's
not
sitting
there
for
months
and
months
and
months
and
getting
old
and
like
people
fiction,
slowly
creeps
up.
I
guess
this
is
my
time,
but
I
I
I
really
like
also
anyway.
This
page
is
great.
This
page
is
great.
F
You
can
see
that,
like
within
a
month
period
of
time,
you
can
pass
some
pretty
hefty
proposals,
like
fifty
thousand
with
with
six
percent
of
the
tokens,
and
you
can
pass
an
eight
thousand,
a
one,
one
percent,
one
percent
proposal
with
five
percent
of
the
tokens,
but
it's
like
really
a
lot
less
one
day
and
nothing
passes
in
eight
hours.
H
E
F
All
of
the
proposals
like
you
can
pass
a
dow
vote,
so
these
parameters
for
dow
voting
basically
define
the
way
which
we
vote
in
order
to
change
the
parameters
and
the
parameters
that
are
in
yellow,
like
highlighted
throughout
the
voters.
Pamphlets
are
easily
changed
with
the
dow
vote,
so
for
all
the
proposals,
it's
like
these
ones
are
a
little
bit
more
soft
cells
and
then
the
ones
that
you
really
have
to
agree
on
when
you're
voting
are
the
ones
in
red.
A
And
I
think
goldilocks
420,
oh,
you
can
go
back.
I
think
ostrom's,
baby,
goldilocks
and
420
all
agree
that
they
will
flip
the
entry
and
exit
tributes
through
vote.
Eventually,
I
think
only-
and
I
think
bolshevik's
gambit
also
says
that
they
will
lower
the
entry
tribute,
but
they
want
to
keep
the
exit
tribute
high,
but
we'll
see
what
chewie
says
about
that.
A
F
Well,
I
just
think
it's
really
it's
really
about
value
line
and
also
about
the
sheer
fact
that
after
a
few
months,
there's
gonna
be
secondary
markets
where
people
can
be
like
buying
and
selling
outside
of,
like
our
bonding
curve.
But
you
know
like
we're
so
new,
like
we're
just
starting
this
bonding
curve
and
I
think,
like
in
the
early
days,
people
the
only
place
they
can
buy.
F
Tokens
is
on
the
bonding
curve
and
we
want
to
incentivize
people
coming
into
the
tc
who
are
actually
going
to
want
to
add
value
to
the
tc,
and
I
think
that,
like
I
mean
we
see
this,
I
see
this
with
giveth
a
lot
like
people
want
to
give
to
things
that
they
care
about,
and
so
it's
like
having
a
high
entry
tribute
is
also
kind
of
like
it's
like
a
slight.
F
It's
like
a
it's
like
a
slight
encouragement
of
trusted
seed
people
coming
in
like
we
had,
the
hatch
only
was
stressed
to
see
people,
but
then
we
attracted
other
cool
people
throughout
this
process
of
the
debates
who
are
like
trusted
sea
people
and
now
trust
to
see
people
who
aren't
part
of
the
hatch
and
it's
like
they're,
the
people
who
are
going
to
come
in
and
be
adding
value
and
then
also
be
our
token
holders,
and
that
are
also
going
to
be
contributing
to
like
the
the
voting
and
the
governance
of
everything
in
the
doubt.
F
So
I
think
it's
actually
an
advantage
rather
than
a
disadvantage,
plus
it's
great,
because
we
can
be
bumping
up
this
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
common
pool
at
launch
with
every
buy
and
sell
like
and
everybody
buying
into
the
to
the
commons
at
the
beginning,
stages
are
adding
to
the
funds
that
we
have
to
find.
Tc
initiatives
can.
E
A
E
Sorry,
no,
you
go
go
ahead,
go
ahead!
Okay!
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
say,
like
I
wonder
how
much,
how
much
money
someone
had
to
put
after
this
entry
tribute
to
company.
You
know
like
the
spread
between
someone
buying.
I
don't
know
10k
into
the
hatch
and
someone
buying
10k
with
all
this.
You
know
this
new
price.
This
huge
tribute,
I
I
I
really
feel
like
you're,
seeing
like
these
people
is
a
line
but
you're
really
cutting
their
wings
to
them
like
they
are
going
to
have
like.
E
F
Coming
in
later
will
be
yeah
yeah
totally
totally.
I
mean
it's
true
that
there
is
like
some
volatility.
It's
actually.
I
thought
this
was
interesting.
It
took
me
a
long
time
to
wrap
my
head
around.
I
didn't
make
this
proposal,
so
I
didn't
write
the
strategy,
but
it
has
some
bits
in
here,
but
it
says
basically
in
order
to
like
the
like
to
combat
the
okay.
This
is
confusing
to
explain
it's
like
as
yeah
as
you
buy
the
token
you're
boosting
the
price
and
then
but
over
time.
F
So
it's
like,
what's
like
it's,
the
question
is
like
does:
is
it
a
better
incentive
to
buy
the
tokens
before
the
entry
tribute
is
voted
to
decrease,
but
it's
like
the
the
token
price
it's
like
when
people
are
buying
the
tokens,
the
token
price
increases
and
you
only
need
to
sell,
I
think,
like
we
only
need
to
sell
as
the
tc
like
40
000
tokens,
in
order
to
like
with
a
month
in
order
for
it
to
make
sense
for
people
to
buy
and
pay
the
extra
exit
tribute
in
the
early
days.
F
F
As
long
as
we
sell
40
000
tokens,
it's
like
actually
still
beneficial
because,
like
the
the
rate
of
increase
in
the
token
price,
like
the
increase
in
the
token
price
for
the
people
who
bought
it
earlier
yeah,
but
then
it's
also
like
good
for
the
people
who
buy
it
later
because,
like
the,
if
you
buy
a
little
later,
then
the
entry
tribute
is
voted
to
decrease.
If
we
pass
all
those
dow
votes
in
as
planned,
does
it
make
sense
yeah?
Thank
you.
C
C
C
Of
course
we
had
some
filter
and
they
had
to
a
c
stack
common
stack,
membership
and
whatever,
but
you
know
you're,
actually
taxing
them,
20
to
the
most
to
people
who
are
most
aligned
to
people
who
have
joined
us
during
these
months,
where
we
couldn't
where
they
couldn't
join
and
want
to
be
the
first
in.
F
So
I
think
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
like
the
price
floor.
So
an
advantage
to
new
people
coming
in
and
paying
this
exit
tribute.
Is
that
like
they
are,
they
can
trust
that
their
token
isn't
gonna
drop
below
like
the
one
dollar
opening
price
for
the
entire
duration,
whereas
hatcher's
they're
stuck
like
they're
holding
on
to
their
token,
so
it's
like
hatchers
are
in
some
way
punished,
but
not
really
punished.
They're
like
in
support
of
the
tc.
It's
almost
like
it's
almost
like
willing
giving
it's
like.
F
I
am
willing
to
hold
on
to
my
tokens
and
have
them
vested,
because
I
want
to
see
the
tec
succeed
and
then
like
new
people
coming
in
are
like
I'm
willing
to
pay
this
tribute
to
the
comments
in
order
to
see
the
tec
succeed,
and
so
it's
like
bringing
in
value
aligned
people,
but
the
the
new
people
benefit
from
the
the
price
for
their
token
price,
not
being
able
to
to
go
down
that.
But
then
they
also
benefit
because,
like
with
the
augmented
bonding
curve
and
like
the
reserve
ratio,
twenty
percent
like
so
there.
F
There's
still
volatility
in
the
token
so
it's
like,
if
they
buy
earlier,
the
token
price
is
going
to
increase,
and
it's
like,
as
I
mentioned
before,
like
in
in
line
with
zephy's
comment
that
I
was
like
highlighting
over
here.
It's
like.
We
only
need
to
sell
forty
40
000
worth
of
tokens
every
month
in
order
for
it
to
make
sense
paying
the
higher
entry
tribute
and
it's
like
because
your
token
price
goes
up
and
then
also
keep
in
mind
that
there's
gonna
be
secondary
markets.
So
it's
like
oh
yeah,
the
exit
trip
is
too
high.
F
You
don't
want
to
sell
in
the
augmented
bonding
curve,
but
you
can
go
to
a
secondary
market
and
sell
your
tokens
there.
So
it's
not
really
like
a
huge
detriment,
and
it's
like
the
people
who
are
gonna
be
paying
the
exit.
Tributes
and
entertainments
later
are
gonna,
be
our
bots.
You
know
they're
taking
advantage
of
like
oh,
the
price
is
like
now.
I
can
actually
get
it
cheaper
in
the
bonding
curve
and
like
yeah.
I
just
want
to
add
a
quick,
more
comment.
F
I
was
over
hearing
griff
and
jeff
have
a
conversation
the
other
day
and
they
were
saying
like.
Wouldn't
it
be
cool
if,
like
somewhere
on
our
ui,
we
could
also
say,
like
the
price
you
pay
on
the
bonding
curve,
with
the
tribute
and
the
price
you
pay
on
these
secondary
markets,
and
so
then
it's
also
just
like
an
opportunity
like
we're
not
trying
to
screw
people
like
coming
in
and
supporting
the
comments.
It's
like.
F
A
A
And
goldilocks
you
stole
an
extra
minute,
so
I'm
going
to
dock
you
an
extra
minute
on
your
next
on
your
next
one:
strong
boundaries,
graduated
sanctions,
okay,
going
for
the
last
the
last
saving
the
best
for
last
potentially
we'll
see.
Do
you
guys,
like
communism,
chewie
does
church
I'm
just
joking
shooting?
I
you
wanna
hear
you
get
to
play,
which,
in
my
opinion,
the
best
meme
of
the
of
of
the
group
is
bolshevik's
gambit.
Do
you
want
to
start
presenting
sure.
H
Best
best
debate
intro
ever
okay,
so
we
built
this
culture
right
taking
in
account
a
lot.
A
lot
of
things.
Inclusivity
is
one
of
the
strongest
points,
so
let's
trust
this
our
economy,
our
choice,
let's
put
together
some
confident
numbers
for
that,
reflect
this.
This
approach.
H
What
I
like
about
this
proposal
is
that
is
another
kind
of
middle-of-the-road
proposal,
but
at
least
we
are
together.
So,
let's
dive
in
so
the
gambit
proposes
one
dollar
opening
price
and
it
has
the
lowest
token
freeze
period.
So
I
personally
don't
think
that
a
lot
of
the
catchers
are
going
to
be
leaving
the
economy.
H
So,
let's,
let's
reflect
this
confidence,
let's
put
it
in
in
numbers
and
at
the
same
time,
let's
make
a
token
thought
that
allows
for
52
weeks
to
be
also
a
point
of
of
confidence.
Let's
gain
some
confidence
for
for
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
participating.
H
So
if
headers
won't
sell,
that
doesn't
mean
that
people
can't
participate,
but
let's
make
it
attractive.
So
we
have
a
comments,
tribute
of
70
entry
and
exit
tribute
of
eight
and
ten
percent
respectively,
and
what
I've,
what
I
think
it's
a
pretty
decent
reserve
ratio
and
the
initial
buy-in
would
be
establishing
the
the
price
in
147.
H
H
Let's
not
punish,
like
people
that
are
gonna,
be
like
somewhere
like
in
an
awkward
point
where
they
don't
know.
If
they
are
getting
like
benefits,
they
don't
know
if
they're
gonna
be
capable
of
voting
and
participating
at
the
same
level
of
the
catcher.
So,
let's
yeah
again
like
let's
reflect
confidence
in
the
culture
that
we
built.
H
So
this
this.
I
really
really
like.
I
think
30
30
million
dollars
for
having
half
the
the
voting
power
of
the
hatchers
is
something
really
possible,
especially
after
the
giveth
launch,
so
like
their
market
cap
also
started
giving
me
a
lot
of
ideas
and
insight
into
what
can
be
possible
with
tc.
H
So
I
feel
that
if
we,
if
we
feel
confident
about
what
we
are
gonna
launch,
I
I
think
that
the
question
of
how
can
people
have
the
same
opportunity
reflects
on
on
this.
I
think
that
these
these
amounts
of
3
million
and
50
million
eggs
die
are
are
pretty
like
low
hanging
fruit
if
you
want
to
have
like
more
diversity
and
and
grow
beyond
the
hatcher's
and
being
able
to
share
this
culture.
H
So
if,
if
you
think
about
it,
if
we,
if
we
get
to
a
reserve
of
20
million
dollars,
we're
gonna
reach
a
price
of
24.54
which
isn't
isn't
really
bad
at
all,
and
I
think-
and
it
can
also,
this
is
also
capable
of
rewarding
the
catchers,
which
is
another
important
thing
that
I
feel
a
lot
of
proposals
are
are
leaving
out,
except
for
20
right,
but
that
that
we'll
talk
about
that
later.
H
Okay,
so
augmented
bonding
curve.
How
does
the
initial
buy
look?
So,
as
you
know,
we're
gonna
as
the
tc
are
gonna,
be
the
first
buyers
of
of
the
tc
token,
and
this
is
gonna
be
used
among
different
things
for
the
reward
system.
H
So
I
really
feel
that
it
should
be
like
somewhere
in
the
middle
and
at
the
same
time
not
raise
the
price
to
something
that
can
be
start
like
leaving
some
people
out
so
just
reaching
this
price,
plus
considering
a
low
token
freeze
period.
I
feel
I
feel
is
the
best
thing
that
we
can
do
if
we're
gonna,
if
we're
gonna,
trust
and
think
about
expanding
this,
this
culture
that
that
we
built.
H
Down
voting,
I
like
I
like
this
proposal
in
in
dow
voting,
because
I
feel
that,
even
though
it's
one
of
the
largest
well,
I
mean
one
of
the
longest
periods.
I
feel
that
this
is
something
very,
very
valid,
because
we're
talking
about
inclusivity
right
so
as
people
join
in
there
should
be
enough
time
for
taking
for
taking
these
decisions
for
changing
our
parameters,
and
I
mean
the
88
meme
has
been
working
really
really
good
for
the
hatch.
H
So
if
we
are
thinking
about
expanding
the
same
circumstances
being
inclusive
with
this,
I
feel
that
we
should.
I
really
really
feel
a
strong
opinion,
keeping
these
these
supported
as
the
support
required
and
minimum
forum
parameters.
H
Conviction
voting,
I.
I
also
feel
that
this
pretty
much
is
getting
like
the
best
out
of
all
all
the
other
operators.
H
One
minute
we
are
considering
a
spending
limit
that
leans
more
towards
them,
like
extremist
proposals
with
this,
but
at
the
same
time
we're
keeping
a
conviction,
growth
in
a
minimum
conviction
that
can
that
can
make
it
possible
for
for
our
initial
funding,
at
least
to
pass
based
on
this
on
this
common
conviction.
H
So,
let's,
let's
take
a
look
here
like
somewhere,
like
between
one
and
two
weeks,
should
be
good
enough
for
passing
proposals
that
that
are
gonna,
be
what
what
gives
us
like
this
first
six
month,
kickstart.
So
if,
after
this,
these
parameters
aren't
really
working
or
we
are
considering
changing
like
the
the
entry
and
exit
tributes,
because
I
know
that
this
is
taking
an
account
for
for
this
proposal.
This
is
something
that
you
can
also
be
considered:
a
low-king
crew
and
yeah.
H
I
think
that's
it,
and
I
would
just
like
to
praise
mitch
for
putting
a
lot
of
work
into
this
proposal.
I've
always
been
a
huge
fan
and
yeah
yeah.
Thanks
for
thanks
for
listening
to
this
proposal
and
wait,
I
have
a
surprise
gift
for
the
end.
H
There
we
go
thanks.
Everybody
now
some
questions.
A
Very
nice,
very
nice.
It's
always
good
to
see
stalin
come
up.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
for
the
marxist
flag.
H
I'm
sorry
I
I
I
didn't
get
the
first
part
of
your
question.
What
was
it.
E
H
We
are,
we
are
kind
of
like
more
progressive
in
those
ideas.
A
I,
along
those
same
lines,
their
bolsheviks,
gambit
and
goldilocks
are
incredibly
similar,
especially
if
you
look
at
this
this
this
thing
right
same
opening
price.
Nearly
the
same
commons
tribute,
the
the
reserve
ratio
is
the
same,
and
if
you
look
at
conviction,
voting
parameters
they're
nearly
the
same,
what
is
the
biggest
differentiator
between
bolsheviks,
gambit
and
goldilocks,
or
are
there
a
couple
like?
Why
would
someone
want
to
vote
for
bolshevik's
gambit
over
goldilocks.
H
I
feel
that,
like
as
as
soon
as
we
like
launch
the
comments
upgrade
goldilocks
has
a
really
high
entry
entry
tribute
that,
even
though
I
really
like
the
rationale,
I
I
feel
the
same
as
nagan
that
there's
gonna
be
like
this
weird
middle
point,
to
get
into
the
tec.
That
is
gonna
end
up
like
not
really
recognizing
or
rewarding
people
that
that
getting
in
the
tec
in
this
first
stage.
H
So
I
feel
that
in
the
long
term,
bolsheviks
gambit
treats
everyone
a
little
bit
more
like
in
an
equal
way
like,
even
if
the
parameters
change
after
after
some
months
or
whenever
we
think
it's
this
would
be
right.
Bolsheviks
gambit
is
fairer
to
the
people
that
join
in
after
the
hatch
and
before
we
have
a
first
change
of
parameters.
F
I
have
a
sort
of
thought
I
mean
the
yeah
goldilocks
has
a
higher
tribute,
spread
than
bolsheviks
gambits
for
sure,
but
bolshevik
skin.
That
has
like
this
higher
exit
tribute
that
it
it
plans
to
maintain
throughout
the
forever
right.
So
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
why
you
want
to
keep
the
exit
tribute
so
high
at
ten
percent.
H
Yes
lauren,
so
the
approach
is
the
same,
but
instead
of
instead
of
like
charging
people
a
percentage
when
they
enter,
we
leave
like
more
room
for
them
to
participate.
So
so
it
kind
of
like
changes
that
perspective.
Instead
of
limiting
the
way
they
participate,
it
kind
of
instead
limits
them
getting
out
like
easily
after
they
see
some
profit
or
just
anything.
H
So
so
so
in
in
a
way
like
it's,
it's
a
similar
like
it
approaches
the
same
issue,
but
instead
I
feel
that
it
gives
people
the
chance
to
have
just
more
volt
weight
instead
of
instead
of
reducing
it
and
making
it
tough
to
enter
but
easy
to
exit.
F
I
love
the
meme,
that's
maybe
the
best
part
about
this
proposal.
Okay,
I
have
another
question,
so
one
difference
I
noticed
also
between
both
of
its
gambit
and
goldilocks
for
goldilocks.
Better.
Is
that
actually
the
dow
voting
parameters
in
bolsheviks
gambit?
You
have
a
three-day
delegate
voting
period
and
a
two-day
quiet,
ending
period
and
six
day
vote
duration.
So
it's
like
there's
the
delegates
basically
can't
affect
the
outcome
of
the
vote
at
all,
and
I
think
that
this
is
like
a
question
with
that
with
the
hatcheries.
F
H
To
be
completely
honest,
I
hadn't
really
thought
about
that
part
yeah.
I
I
I
don't
really
have
an
answer
for
that.
I
think
you
you
got
me
on
that.
One.
A
This
is
definitely
a
nice.
A
difference
between
goldilocks
and
oh.
This
chart
looks
wrong,
but
I'll
fix
that,
but
goldilocks
has
time
to
execute
with
five
and
without
any
without
an
extension
in
five
and
a
half
days
and
bolsheviks
gambit
is
eight
days.
Why
do
you
think
it's
better
to
have
longer
durations
for
votes.
H
H
Like
even
I
mean,
of
course,
we
have
like
different
mechanisms
for
this
and
and
I've
I've
always
raised
the
the
s
pro
that
that
one
guardians
offers,
but
even
though,
like
I
feel
that
not
not
like,
like
even
getting
a
little
bit
ahead
of
that,
like
of
of
like
some
form,
some
form
of
more
like
disputable
voting.
H
I
feel
that
if
there
are
any
like
discussions
where
we
are
leaving
people
behind
what
would
be
the
use
of
of
being
inclusive
with
with
this
participation
right.
So
I
feel
that
this
extra
voting
period
kind
of
allows
people
to
integrate
culturally,
not
only
like
democratic.
A
Nice
well,
thank
you
chewie
for
representing
so
well
the
marxist
vlad
approach.
We
just
have
a
few
minutes
left
and
I
really
wanted
to
give
everyone
who's.
Just
listening,
a
chance
who
didn't
have
a
chance
to
talk
to
speak
about
which
one
which
proposal
they
were
most
impressed
by
and
and
why
so,
let's
try
to
keep
it
to
about
a
minute
I'll
start
the
timer
zeptimus.
Would
you
like
to
kick
it
off
and
just
pass
it
to
people
who
didn't
get
a
chance
to
talk.
E
Okay,
yeah,
I
really
like
the
approach
of
inclusivity
of
of
strong's
baby.
I
think,
even
if
you
know
the
opening
price
is
lower
than
a
dollar,
it
gets
up
to
a
dollar
after
the
initial
buy,
so
people
is
going
like
the
hatches
are
not
going
to
have
any
disadvantage
from
other
people
who's
buying.
So
I
really
think
like
this
approach
or
culture
of
inclusiveness
and
yeah,
I
really
love
that
I'll
pass
it
to
ygg.
I
Hey
guys
awesome
presentations,
everyone,
I'm
blown
away,
I'm
kind
of
playing
catch
up
on
these
proposals,
so
it
was
really
I'm
really
happy
I
hopped
in
here
and
got
to
see
all
these
really
high
caliber
presentations.
I
So
I
was
really
they
all
had
good
points.
So
it's
it's
tough.
I
mean
I
feel
like
at
this
point.
We
could
launch
with
any
of
these
proposals
and
probably
just
do
all
right,
but
I've
had
a
really
good
feeling
about
the
one
noggin
presented
meth.
Was
it
mathematics
or
something
like
that,
and
it
seemed
really
well-rounded
very
neutral,
like
like
he
said,
kind
of
the
middle
path
approach
and
just
really
good
justifications
for
the
reasoning-
and
you
know
nothing
crazy.
I
It
was
quite
similar
to
what
we're
seeing
from
a
lot
of
the
other
proposals,
but
just
some
sort
of
subtle,
refinements
and
yeah,
so
that
I
I
really
want
to
look
into
that.
One
deeper
but,
like
I
said
from
the
presentation,
seems
like
we
could
launch
with
any
of
these
and
we'd.
Probably
just
do
fine.
So
it's
about
optimization
at
this
point.
So,
looking
forward
to
reading
deeper
into
all
the
proposals
and
I'll
pass
over
to,
let's
see
pab.
E
Hi,
I
think
I
honestly
think
I
need
to
read,
through
the
pamphlet,
a
little
more
to
like,
be
able
to
like
make
any
decision,
but,
right
now
I'd
say:
I'm
leaning
more
towards
mathematics
and
goldilocks
mathematics,
mainly
because
I
like
how
low
the
entry
and
exit
tributes
are.
E
I
feel
like
them
being
lower,
may
be
a
reason
why
more
people
would
want
to
join
in
you
know,
so
the
the
percentages
being
low
does
not
necessarily
mean
less
money
flowing
into
the
common
pool
and
on
goldilocks
I
like
how
it
kind
of
discourages
degeneracy,
which
is
a
good
thing.
I
think,
to
like
keep
a
community
like
like
having
culture
like
stay
healthy.
I
guess
but
yeah
I
I
cannot
say
I'm
like
decided
yet
since
I
need
to
read
a
lot
more
to
be
honest,
I'll
pass
it
to
libya.
G
Yeah
math
is
also
my
favorite
one,
and
I
I
really
like
the
the
low
entrance
attributes
and
I
like
that
they
are
the
same,
and
then
that
creates
some
type
of
movement
that
can
be
very
beneficial
for
us
and
also
that
the
governance
it
the
governance
part
of
the
hatcheries.
Let
me
look
for
that
graph.
It
takes,
I
think,
3
million
for.
G
Yeah
three
million
of
tc
from
the
abc
bought
from
from
the
abc
to
meant
half
the
tokens
given
to
hatchers,
and
I
think
because
it
creates
a
high
volatility.
Maybe
it's
easier
to
reach
those
three
million
with
less
people
participating
in
and
then
it
creates
a
more
like
soft
distribution
that
it's
not
so
quick
to
new
contributors
versus
hatchers
and.
G
I
Hi,
I
I
think
that
the
two
I'm
kind
of
in
between
are
goldilocks
and
bolsheviks
gambit.
I,
like
kind
of
those
that
set
of
parameters-
I
guess
kind
of
what
I'm
trying
to
decide
is,
you
know,
do
we
think
modifying
those
parameters,
kind
of
on
a
regular
basis
to
to
change
that
entry
and
exit
tribute
is
the
way
to
go
versus
having
something
that
we
kind
of
intend
to
be
there
longer
term.
I
So
that's
where
I
am,
and
I
don't
know
who
I
was
going.
I
I
passed
to.
A
Ygg
he
went
it's
okay,
it
was
a
good
guess,
though
I
mean
we
all
always
want
to
just
pass
to
ygg.
I
almost
want
to
let
him
go
again,
but
and
and
and
hasn't
gone
and
you
I
know
this
is
your
first
time
actually
even
hear
about
any
of
these
parameter
sets,
but
did
did
you
have
a
favorite.
G
A
No
worries,
sorry
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
how
about
gideon,
I
think
you
might
have
just
rolled
in.
I
don't
even
know
if
you
got
a
chance
to
listen
to
too
many
of
the
proposals.
But
do
you
have
a
favorite
of
these
proposals
that
you'd
like
to
discuss.
I
Yeah
griff,
sorry
I
just
no
I'm
just
jumping
in
and
I
I
I
came
in
with
goldilocks
and
420
as
my
top,
but
you
know
I'm
going
through
the
brochure
right
now,
which
is
awesome.
I
love
it
and
yeah
this
question
about.
Are
we
locking
out
new
people
from
governance
is
something
I
hadn't
really
thought
about,
and
so
I'm
just
really
trying
to
digest
that
right
now
and
see.
If
that
changes.
My
view
of
things.
A
Know
if
anybody
else
still
hasn't
gone
yet
so
I'll
leave
it.
I
think
that
is
everyone
did
anyone
else
not
get
a
chance
to
present
or
speak
at
the
end?
I
think
that's
everyone.
So
thank
you
all
for
coming
to
this
great
debate.
A
I
we
have
a
lot
of
different
opportunities
to
vote
on
timings
for
other
debates.
You
know
this
is
a
global
there's,
a
global
world
here
and
it's
really
hard
to
know
when
the
best
time
is
for
everyone.
So
please
consider
going
to
the
first.
We,
the
next
debate
is
going
to
happen.
That's
oh
man,
I'm!
So
sorry.
A
The
next
debate
is
happening
on
monday
at
does
anyone
know
the
time
on
monday?
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
it
up.
A
11
a.m-
est
great,
and
so
that
means
8
a.m,
west
coast
and
5
p.m.
Europe,
so
definitely
come
to
that.
The
there
are
lots
of
other
opportunities
also
to
discuss
these
parameters,
but
we
need
your
help
to
pick
the
best
times.
There
are
on
the
first
page
of
the
voters
pamphlet.
There
are
three
doodles
we
want
to
be
especially
friendly
to
people
who
are
who
are
in
like
challenging
time
zones
or
can't
make
the
european
u.s
time
zone
that
we
usually
centralize
on.
A
So
if
you're
in
asia,
pacific
or
if
you're,
then
there's
a
couple
doodles
that
were
where
we
picked
sometimes
that
are
especially
handy
for
you
and
also
the
final
debate
on
wednesday.
We
want
to
maximize
participation,
so
we
really
want
to
hear
your
signaling
on
the
best
times
the
times
that
you
can
come
to
these
things,
so
rock
the
vote,
rock
the
vote
give
get
on
our
doodles.
It's
the
links
are
on
the
first
page
of
the
voters
pamphlet.
So
thank
you
all
for
coming
and
good
luck
on
voting.
A
The
vote
is
up.
If
you
already
have
your
decisions,
you
can
vote
and
you
can
also
change
your
votes
later.
So
it's
okay
to
vote
now,
if
you'd
like.
Thank
you
all
for
coming
and
we'll
talk
to
you
soon,
we'll
see
at
the
next
debate.