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B
Yeah
sure
I
I,
just
on
boarded
last
week,
my
name
is
Iran
I'm
from
Turkey,
but
was
based
on
Chicago
and
now
I'm
moving
to
New
York
just
been
in
the
space
for
around
two
months
now,
just
getting
the
feel
of
a
few
different
Downs
they're
interested
in
regenerative
design
and
token
engineering
and
I
come
from
a
journalism,
Communications
background,
so
more
interested
in
the
content
side.
B
Also
getting
the
word
out
there
and
TC's
Valley
proposition
to
you,
know
kind
of
to
the
world
as
well,
and
also
they're
interested
in
governance
mechanisms
so
coming
into
different
working
groups.
This
week
and
meeting
people
and
I
feel
so
welcomed
already.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
for
the
intro.
A
Sure
yeah
welcome
to
the
sampo
and
yeah
and
maybe
there's
a
a
place
in
some
of
the
writing
work
around
how
we
talk
about
and
position
the
TDC
and
the
economic
value
of
the
Tec.
So
we
can
follow
up
on
that
later.
Welcome
Septimus.
A
Zeptimus
is
the
All-Seeing
Eye
just
so
that
everybody
knows
that
he's
watching
everything
I
submitted
a
transaction
payments
for
sample
and
15
minutes
later
I
got
a
notification
from
him
asking
to
update
working.
Our
systems
are.
A
That
was
hilarious,
okay,
so
I
am
going
to
share
my
screen
and.
D
A
So
for
those
of
you,
you
know,
actually
it's
probably
just
for
you
right
now,
the
we
use
collaboration
tool
called
Clarity
and
that's
what
I'm
working
in
right
now
and
after
after
the
call
I
can
send
you
a
note.
You
know
to
like
get
you
into
the
clarity
base.
D
A
Yeah,
so
for
right
now,
what
we're
going
to
do
is
kick
things
off
and
actually
he
then
I'm
gonna,
just
ask
you
to
read.
So
what
we
do
at
the
beginning
of
these
calls
is
like
just
read
the
sample
Mission
out
loud
I
have
have
one
person
do
it,
so
would
you
be
willing
to
do
the
honors
today?
Can
you
read
that.
B
A
Awesome,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
so,
okay,
so
our
the
check-in
question
today
is
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
feel
for,
like
this
whole
question
of
philanthropy
on
the
blockchain.
So
how
do
you
feel
personally
about
contributing
funds
as
like
a
philanthropic
gift
to
a
public
goods
blockchain
project
first,
my
first
question
is:
is
that
question
clear
what
I
mean
by
that.
E
B
A
Question
sorry
question
is:
how
do
you
feel
personally
about
contributing
funds
to
a
blockchain
project
in
a
in
a
philanthropic
way
right
as
a
gift,
rather
than
like
buying
tokens?
E
Yeah,
you
know
I've
really
enjoyed
doing
it,
I
think
through
between
like
giveth
and
Bitcoin,
and
you
know
just
people
who
are
doing
really
good
work
in
the
space.
Giving
it
out
is
a
lot
different
than
it
feels
when
it
comes
out
of
you
know
your
debit
card
or
something
so
I
I
think
it's
I,
don't
know.
I
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
it.
I
think
it
feels
really
great,
just
as
anything
else
I
think
it's
a
lot
easier
and
I
can
cope
with
it.
E
Just
because
I
know
exactly
what
I'm
giving
it
to
I.
Think
that
the
details
and
understanding
where
your
money
is
going.
It
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
relaxing
to
to
give
any
excess
funds
that
you
may
have
or
feel
like.
You
want
to
invest
in
somebody's
good
work,
so
yeah
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
lot
easier
than
in
traditional
money
system,
so
I'll
pass
it
over
to
bear.
F
Thank
you,
Nate
yeah,
I
think
it's
it's
an
interesting
experience,
yeah
right,
because
we
compared
with
like
the
traditional
world
and
and
the
process
of
doing
it.
It's
it's
different
right
like
what
Nate
was
saying.
You
don't
use
your
debit
card
right.
F
I
feel
to
see
that
having
an
impact
in
the
project
that
you
that
you
are
supporting,
so
I
think
that
that
that
gives
you
like
a
good
feeling
right
when
you,
when
you
do
it
and
yeah
I,
think
that
would
be
for
me.
I
pass
you
to
to
Gene.
G
C
It
third
use
get
coin,
particularly
get
coin
with
the
quadratic
funding
mechanism.
It's
it's
like
exciting
to
just
give
a
dollar
to
something
and
use
your
human
curation
tool
as
yourself.
You
know
as
the
way
to
get
some
extra
funding
to
to
a
platform
or
to
a
project,
so
yeah
I'll,
find
it
particularly
enjoyable
and
I
will
pass
it
to
Rex.
H
Oh
I
mean
I
think
it's
a
very
nerdy
thing
kind
of
talking
about
this,
because
I
I
still
don't
think
it's
anywhere
near
kind
of
a
extremeness,
but
I
would
agree
with
the
general
view
that
of
donating
through
giveth
or
through
yet
going
is
much
more
fun
and
much
more
transparent
than
doing
it
to
a
charity.
H
It
feels
much
more
like
what's
the
name
of
that,
the
other
kind
of
funny
platforms,
almost,
which
generally
a
better
system
than
the
current
kind
of
charity
in
transparent,
mammoths,
nothing
riches
to
the
the
RIT
CEOs
and
been
spending
Pennies
on
that
course
I'm.
Sorry!
Yes,
it's
my
view.
I'll
pass
it
to
70.
C
Damn
checks,
yeah
I
feel,
like
you
know,
it's
also
like
very
hard
to
say,
because
you
know
like
git
going
if
you're
a
git
gun
owner
like
you,
are
getting
more
than
what
you're
donating
right
and
then
you
know,
I
also
think
like
something
that
this,
like
you
know,
that
makes
keep
going
pleasure
to
make
donations.
It's
like
you
know
the
people
like
you're
donating
and
it's
like,
okay,
you
donate
them
I,
don't
know
then
die
and
then
they
will
receive
like
20
and
it's
like
okay,
I'm
I'm.
C
C
D
Hey
guys,
yes,
so
when
I
think
of
contributing
funds
to
missions,
I
I,
it's
because
I
well,
I'm,
definitely
align
with
the
mission
and
also,
in
the
back
of
my
mind,
I
think
that
crypto
is
really
good
at
retroactively,
rewarding
people
for
their
contributions
that
they
make,
especially
towards
like
impact
focused
missions.
And
if
it's
successful,
then
usually
the
crypto
projects
go
and
track
and
reward
the
users
that
participated.
D
The
hard
part
is
kind
of
preventing
the
system
from
being
gained
by
people,
creating
lots
of
wallets
and
just
trying
to
farm
all
these
retroactive
distributions.
So
but
I
I,
I
think
maybe
something
some
form
of
commitment
to
and
participation
other
than
just
donating
would
would
be
the
right
way
to
retroactively
rewarded
the
people
who
did
actually
donate
philosopher
philosophy,
but
there's
a
that's.
A
big
question
and
I
would
require
a
lot
of
brainstorming
and
thought
to
answer.
F
Thanks
yeah
I
resonated
with
a
lot
of
what
everyone
else
has
said:
I
guess:
oh,
it
feels
quite
nice
for
various
reasons.
First
of
all,
we
are
closing
the
space.
So
you
know
you
know
the
folks
or
you
know
I
guess
you
can
sort
of
Imagine.
F
What
they
may
need,
or
not
you
make
you
make
any
like
you,
make
it
up
for
yourself,
I
think,
there's
also
a
set.
They
said
with
Bitcoin.
You
know
if
even
if
I
have
just
10
bucks
or
something
it's
like,
if
I
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
great
match,
it's
a
bigger
incentive
for
me
to
move
if
even
just
one
dollar
or
something.
F
If
I
didn't
have
like
a
much
desperate
to
give,
I-
probably
wouldn't
even
bother
to
do
it
and
then
for
the
you
know,
everything
is
still
open
everyone's.
So
nice,
you
can.
You
can
see
with
just
a
few
clicks
all
these
projects.
What
are
they
working
on,
and
so
you
clearly
see
the
value
in
them,
so
it
just
feels
right
to
to
do
so
in
items
left
right.
F
B
Yeah,
almost
a
second,
a
lot
of
the
things
already
said:
I
think
some
of
the
valley
in
it
is
just
you
know:
the
transparency
and
bypassing
the
bureaucratic
overhead
or
inefficiencies
that
are
just
so
common
in
these
philanthropic
organizations,
usually
and
non-profits.
So
I
just
think
it's
very
exciting,
but
I
also
have
not
donated
yet
to
any
of
those.
So
something
on
my
list
that
I'm
looking
forward
to
start
contributing
to
and
pass
it
to
Gideon
right
you're,
the
last
one.
A
This
is
an
octopus
glass,
oh
cool,
so,
okay,
thanks,
everybody
well
I,
I
will
second,
what
everybody's
saying
I
guess.
The
only
thing
I
have
to
admit
is
that
I
sometimes
find
it
confusing
like.
Why
would
I
give
to
this
organization
but
then
buy
tokens
over
in
this
organization?
Sometimes
that
line
for
me
is
a
little
bit
confusing
and,
and
we
actually
had
something.
Last
week,
I
I
got
somebody
who
was
very
confused.
We
sent
a
message
out:
TC
sent
a
message
out.
A
That
was
simply
just
pointing
people
to
the
convert,
the
ABC
page
and
they
were
really
confused
like.
Why
are
you
asking
me
for
more
money?
And
you
know
it's
like?
Are
you
like?
Is
this
a
donation
you
know
like
there
was
like
all
these
questions
that
kind
of
came
so
that
was
part
of
why
I
was
asking
about
this.
A
Whether
this
is
you
know,
as
we
think,
about
raising
funds
going
forward
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
this
a
little
bit
like
how
do
we
think
about
this
difference
between
philanthropy
and
then
actually
buying
a
token
but
we'll
get
to
that
a
sec?
So
quick
updates.
A
One
question
that
we
we
want
to
explore
is
this
meeting
time
for
sampo
is
a
little
bit
late
in
the
day
for
people
who
are
in
Europe,
and
so
let
me
just
do
like
a
quick
just
very
quick
round
robin.
Don't
please
just
take
like
10
seconds.
A
A
F
Yeah
I
think
it
would
be,
would
be
a
good
idea
and,
and
if
everyone
agrees,
I
could
create
the
doodle
to
find
the
the
time.
If
that's
something
yeah
I,
just
pass
it
to
crypto
sec.
A
Question
is
would
earlier
time
in
the
day,
work
for
reading
for
the
sample
meeting.
A
Okay,
Gene,
how
about
you
sounds.
C
C
E
A
Okay,
zepti.
H
H
A
Okay,
Bert
I
was
just
asking
about
moving
this
meeting
to
earlier
in
the
day
on
on,
Sunday
is,
would
that
be
easier
for
you
doing
earlier.
G
Yes,
actually
it's
pretty
late
here
in
Turkey,
it's
like
11
o'clock
night.
A
Okay,
great
so
bear
you
and
I
will
follow
up
afterwards
and
just
see
what's
the
best
way.
One
of
the
reasons
we
did
this
in
the
afternoon
is
because
Griff
has
such
a
tight
schedule
and
I
really
wanted
to
get
him
on
these
calls,
but
he's
out
for
a
big
chunk
of
the
summer,
so,
okay,
so
we'll
follow
up
on
that
Nate.
Do
you
want
to
just
give
a
quick
update?
E
Yeah,
so
still
working
pretty
hard
on
this
treasury
policy.
There
are
a
couple
areas
that
still
need
I
I
would
like
to
have
more
comments
on
I
think
that,
especially
when
it
comes
to
the
investment
strategies,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
Baron
and
to
you
for
your
comments.
Gideon
you
as
well
and
specifically
in
the
investment
strategies
and
D5
applications.
I
know
that
bear
had
brought
up
some
possible
strategies
that
weren't
articulated
that
we
could
possibly
explore.
E
E
I
worry
about
liquidity
of
those
types
of
things,
but
but
if
they're
worth
putting
in
feel
free
to
put
a
section
in
and
just
just
write
it
out.
If
you
have
other
comments,
it
would
help
a
lot
I'm
going
to
kind
of
keep
this
document
open.
E
If
you
have
haven't
seen
the
document
and
I'm
going
to
slowly
massage
it
out
to
the
point
where
we
have
a
kind
of
a
formal,
formal
document
and
as
well
as
a
road
map
and
a
set
of
checklist
of
things
that
need
to
be
done
before
we
set
up
a
proposal
and
post
this
on
the
Forum
and
go
through
the
advice
process.
So
if
you
have
any
comments,
ideas
critiques,
please
throw
them
in
the
documents,
no
matter
what
they
are.
E
The
whole
point
of
this
is
try
to
get
this
done
by
probably
the
end
of
this
week
and
yeah
and
then
yep
just
the
end
of
the
week
and
then
we'll
get
it
taken
care
of.
So
that's
all
I
have
for
it,
though,.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
that
link
is
in
the
Samo
channel
right.
The
text
channel
right.
A
Okay,
so
I
actually
have
two
more
quick
updates.
One
is
Pam
and
I
are
making
pretty
fast
progress
on
this
Consulting
Services
intake
form,
so
we'll
do
a
more
like
a
fuller
update
next
week,
but
think
very
lightweight.
This
thing
is
going
to
be
super
lightweight
and
we're
trying
to
get
this
shipped
by
like
early
August.
So
it's
when
we
ship
it's
basically
just
going
to
be
a
form
f,
o
r
m.
Not
f-o-r-u-m.
A
Is
this
a
form
that
will
collect
information
from
people
token
engineering
help
and
then
we're
gonna
just
create
a
category,
a
new
category
in
the
Forum
f-o-r-u-m,
the
TC
discourse
Forum,
where
we
will
post
these
things
and
then
we'll
be
working
with
Consulting
like
a
handful
of
Consultants
token
engineering
Consultants
to
get
their
eyes
on
these
projects
as
a
way
of
potentially
doing
matchmaking
very.
A
To
start
and
and
then
we
will
grow
it
from
there.
So
that's
that's
the
update
on
that
and
then
just
very
briefly.
I
had
a
really
interesting
call,
just
like
I,
don't
know
an
hour
or
so
ago
with
somebody
who
works
at
Dao
stack,
Shahara,
Oriel
and
he's
got
some
interesting
technology
that
he
would
like
to
partner
with
us
on
around
basically
using
Discord
feedback.
A
So
emoticon
clicks
as
a
way
to
highlight
information
in
Discord,
where
there's
a
lot
of
activity,
and
so
I've
been
taking
for
a
while
about
using
stuff
like
that
to
curate
content
to
the
engineering
type
content
which
could
be
used
for
lots
of
different
things.
So
he
and
I
we're
talking
about
this.
Whether
there's
something
here
and
I
will
follow
up
in
one
of
the
the
next
calls
with
more
details
on
that.
H
A
We're
leaving
it
until
V2,
actually,
probably
like
V
0.5,
which
will
be
in
the
probably
October
time
frame
and
what
that's
probably
going
to
look
like
is
requiring
both
sides
to
hold
TC
tokens
like
a
certain
amount
of
TDC
tokens,
which
will
require
a
tribute
going
in
and
going
out
when
you
purchase
it
when
you
sell
and
then
if
there
are
any.
If
there's
work
that
we
do
to
kind
of
help
with
the
preparation
of
The
Proposal,
that's
stuff,
that
we
would
probably
charge
for.
H
It
would
probably
make
sense
to
have
a
sort
of
I
I
know
in
in
some
channels,
some
like
Discord
groups,
where
you
buy
and
sell
graphics
cards
as
it's
a
major
but
future
take
care
of.
Like
you
know,
the
requirements
being
completed
and
money
is
only
moved
owns,
set
requirements
are
complete,
so
whether
we
want
to
I
mean
not
not
at
all
in
like
V1,
but
in
future.
A
Yeah,
like
yeah,
like
a
escrow
kind
of.
A
A
Okay,
let's,
let's
keep
going
because
there's
a
couple
other
things
that
we
want
to
cover
today.
So
one
is
this
Discord
token
holder,
Channel
NT
is
handling
the
kind
of
the
technical
side
of
this
like
looking
at
sessions,
I'm
going
to
be
posting
probably
later
this
week,
just
a
an
overview
of
this
up
on
the
Forum,
see
Forum
to
part
of
the
community
advice
process.
A
Basic
idea
is
you
know
that
this
will
be
a
token
gated
channel
in
Tec
Discord.
Only
people
who
can
get
to
it
will
be.
Those
who
hold
TC,
which
is
you
know
within
the
next
few
months,
is
going
to
expand.
A
Pretty
you
know
it'll
be
much
easier
to
get
a
hold
of,
because
when
you
go
through
the
orientation
you
will
be
dish
praise
and
with
the
praise
you
will
get
some
tea
so
still
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
what
the
content
would
be
in
this
channel,
and
so
you
know,
I'm.
Looking
at
things
like
what's
listed
here,
Financial
updates
the
audit
announcement
from
transparency.
A
You
know
things
around
kind
of
that
side
of
the
transparency
and
financial
updates
conviction.
Voting
updates
so
like
what's
happening
with
proposals
on
conviction.
Voting
working
group
updates.
So
this
is
what
Costa
is
doing
right
now
on
the
on
the
Forum,
we're
thinking
about
moving
that
over
to
here
and
then
possibly
things
like
contribution
opportunities.
A
Lbs
is
working
with
edu
in
in
the
communitas
group
to
highlight,
like
first
contributions
like
opportunities
for
for
easy
contributions
for
people
who
are
just
getting
started
here
and
other
types
of
contributions
so
like
that
might
be
like
a
note
like
not
a
job
board,
but
something
like
that
different
ways
to
get
involved
and
be
part
of
the
economically,
so
I'm
curious.
A
If
people
have
other
ideas
that
pop
to
mind
right
now
and
or
if
there
are
people
who
would
like
to
help
out
with
this
content
side
of
things
and
thinking
about
what,
in
this
channel.
C
A
Yeah,
hey
Griff,
welcome,
so
your
questions
empty
is.
Are
we
going
to
hide
some
of
the
content?
That's
the
question.
C
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
I,
think
so
just
I
mean
it's
first
of
all.
This
is
an
experiment.
We'll
run
this
through
the
end
of
the
year
to
see
how
it
works
and
part
of
what
we're
going
to
be
checking
is
cultural
impact
that
something
like
this
has,
but
I
think
that
what
we'll
try
to
do
is
make
it
so
that
it's
stuff,
that's
is
most
relevant
to
people
who
are
participating
in
the
economic
level
right
people
who,
who
hold
the
token,
and
so
you
can
still
come
in
to
the
TC.
A
You
know,
hang
out
talk
with
people
all
the
things
that
you
know.
Most
people
end
up
doing
today,
anyways,
but
trying
to
kind
of
like
find
a
set
of
of
content.
That
will
be
at
least
nominal
at
least
minimally
valuable
as
a
way
to
kind
of
increase,
the
value
of
holding
the
token
the
perceived
value.
C
H
Think
that,
as
controversial
as
this
is,
this
is
probably
like
I
think
you
thought
this
through
well
and
it's
probably
the
best
way.
You
can
Implement
a
token
gate,
because
the
kind
of
the
main
important
routes
yeah,
which
we
onboard
people
aren't
going
to
be
touched.
That
was
my
main
worry.
H
Saying
yes,
exactly
so
in
in
my
eyes,
all
as
good
as
as
long
as
we
don't
kind
of
hinder
the
process
of
onboarding,
because
I
feel
that
that's
what
the
community
needs
most,
it
needs
to
grow.
A
Yeah
I
I
think
that
that's
true,
we
have
to
be
super
careful.
We
got
to
be
very
careful
not
to
do
anything.
That's
going
to
slow
people
coming
in
feeling
like
they're
part
of
the
community
and
I
mean
the
upside
of
this
is
if
this
can
help
to
Spur
people's
purchasing
of
the
token,
then
you
know
we
also
are
going
to
get
more
people
who
can
particular
governance
too.
A
So
this
is
kind
of
like
you
come
in
as
a
newcomer
you'd
be
as
a
newcomer,
then
you
become
a
member
and
as
a
member
then
you-
you
know
you
so
so
the
bigger
frame
on
this
just
so
everybody,
maybe
not
everybody's
familiar
with,
what's
happening
over
in
communitas
on
this
rock.
But
the
idea
is
we're
about
to
propose
Tec
membership,
which
requires
that
you've
been
oriented.
You've
gone
through
orientation.
A
You've
signed
the
community
Covenant
you've
activated
yourself
with
praise
so
that
you
can
not
just
receive
praise,
but
you
wish
praise
and
then
you
own
Tec
beyond
the
token
so.
A
Basically,
ways
of
saying,
hey,
I,
agree
to
play
by
the
protocols
or
the
agreements
community,
and
when
you
do
that,
then
you
remember,
and
so
this
would
be
saying
like
pretty
much
everybody
who's.
A
member
is
also
going
to
have
the
token,
and
so
they
would
would
be
able
to
get
access,
but
it
might
be
a
week
or
two
before
without
access.
B
I
haven't
seen:
I
was
in
that
Community
does
meeting,
but
I
was
wondering
if
there's
a
minimum
TC
token
you
need
to
hold
for
that.
What
did
you
talk
about
that
in
the
proposal?
Is
it
just
any
amount
of
TC
or
is
there
yeah.
A
That's
a
that's
a
great
question
right
now:
we're
just
thinking
about
the
minimum
amount
like
one
one.
Two
like
we're,
not
gonna
make
money
on
this,
but
so
this
is
really
just
more
of
an
experiment,
so
we're
thinking
that
right
now
it
would
just
be
like
a
very
minimal
amount.
Like
probably
one
piece
beyond
that,
it
starts
to
get
a
little
bit
arbitrary.
You.
A
C
I'm
just
going
to
say
like
from
praise,
some
people
is
receiving
like
less
than
one,
so
it
might
include
some
people
that
do
not
buy
the
token
yeah
I
mean
we
could
set
the
minimum
level
to
the
equivalent
of
what
one
quantification
of
one
minimal
praise
would
be,
and
so,
if
anybody's
ever
been
praised
at
all,
then
that
point,
maybe
.001
or
0.0001,
but
dust
could
even
be
included.
And
if
you
have
Tec
dust
then
you
qualify.
A
A
Yeah,
one
of
the
questions,
too,
is
like
there's
some
benefit
of
having
people
actually
purchase
it
through
the
ABC
through
the
bonding
curve,
because
that
is
actually
some
work
for
for
I.
Think
most
of
us
at
this
point.
It's
not
that
hard,
but
the
first
time
I
did
it.
It
was.
You
know
it
took
some
figuring
out
so.
B
A
C
This
is
something
that
this
contractually
with
with
I
just
share,
but
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
share,
which.
C
C
A
Yeah,
that's
fair,
I
think
that
the
reason
to
try
this
like
this
is
it's
really
just
to
figure
out.
This
is
like
a
test.
You
know
to
see
what
it's
actually
like,
I,
think
if
we,
if,
if
we
raise
the
minimum
up
to
some
point
where
it
would
make
a
difference,
screening
people
then
I
think
we
run
into
a
whole
bunch
of
other
questions
and
I'm
just
trying
to
keep
this
simple
in
the
beginning
to
just
see
what
it's
even
like
to
do.
E
So
yeah
I
don't
think
that
the
details
are
all
that
important
in
my
own
opinion,
I
think
that
the
the
the
big
value
here
is
to
to
have
this
tooling
available
in
case.
We
want
to
do
something
later
on
that
Associates
our
Discord
Channel
with
the
token
itself
and
have
some
type
of
intricate
play
between
those
two
and
so
I
think
building
that
infrastructure
right
now
is
like
the
true
value
of
it,
whether
we
get
generate
any
value
from
actually
tooken
getting
a
Channel
or
not
is
secondary
in
my
opinion,
but
yeah.
So.
H
Yeah
I
have
alternative
mechanism
could
consider
as
well.
So
it
is
higher
complexity
than
what
we're
thinking
right
now
could
also
have
some
sort
of.
So
we
could
ask
people
to
stake.
Ntc
receive
an
nft
for
it
and
gain
access
that
way
and
whenever
they
want
to
leave
just
return
the
ft
and
get
their
TC
back.
It
could
also
be
a
potential
way.
It's
open
gate,
if
we're
not
doing
it.
That
way.
It's
just
something
like
you
thought
about
yeah.
A
So
it
turns
out-
oh
sorry,
Rex
it
turns
out.
We
do
have
that
tool
or
something
like
that.
Maybe
we
could
use
this
deposit
manager
as
part
of
gardens
today.
Well,
let's
not,
let's
not
go
into
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
detail
on
this,
but
there
is
a
way
that
we
have
today
of
locking
basically
getting
people
to
lock
TC
into
Gardens.
A
A
Yeah,
okay
I'm,
going
to
let's,
let's
move
to
the
next
topic,
but
if
people
have
thoughts
on
this,
particularly
I'm,
very
interested
in
content,
ideas
like
how
can
we
actually
make
this
channel
this
test
at
least
interesting
and
worthwhile
and
valuable?
So
people
are
are
interested
in
that.
Please
contact
me
afterwards.
Just
follow
up.
A
A
Okay,
I
want
to
go
to
something.
This
is
kind
of
builds
off
of
the
intro
question.
A
A
A
So
that's
like
just
having
some
clarity
when
we're
doing
that
framing
of
our
pitches.
You
know
the
way
that
we
describe
ourselves
in
the
way
that
we
describe
the
value
proposition
and
then
also
like
I
just
find
that
sometimes
it's
confusing
right
in
this
new
world.
A
You
know
what
is
what
does
it
mean?
What
is
fundraising
in
this
world
right
web
three,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
some
Framing
and
then
get
your
thoughts
on
so,
and
this
may
not
be
the
only
way
to
frame
it,
but
this
is.
A
This
is
my
first
cut
at
this
right,
so
income
categories,
basically
we're
talking
about
at
a
high
level,
there's
fundraising,
there's
revenues
and
there's
Financial
return,
So
within
fundraising,
there's
two
types:
there's
philanthropy
like
basically
grants
and
then
there's
holding
tokens
like
you
hear
people
talking
about
raising
funds,
but
what
the
and
what
they're
talking
about
is
is
basically
getting
people
to
buy
the
token
right
and
so
I
think
for
us,
it's
going
to
be
important
for
us
to
just
be
very
clear
about
which
one
of
these
we're
talking
about
in
philanthropy.
A
You
know
it
kind
of
it
breaks
down
into
like
this
is
a
world
I
know
well,
because
I
spent
like
nearly
10
years
in
this,
you
know
it's
like
individual
donations
or
organizational
grants.
A
So
in
individual
donations
you
find
like
major
donors
and
then
like
smaller
scale,
contributions
like
typically
called
membership,
and
then
you
have
organizational
grants,
so
those
will
be
typically
foundations
but,
like
you
know,
git
coin
ethereum
Foundation
are
kind
of
versions
of
those
and
when
you're
talking
about
grants,
they
can
be
General
support
grants
which
goes
to
the
overall
operations
they're,
not
restricted.
A
A
A
Are
they
looking?
Are
they
holding
the
token
because
it
gets
them?
Something
like
this
whole
token
gated
thing
or
are
they
doing
it
really
more
for
appreciation
like
token
appreciation
and
then
there's
this
question
of,
especially
as
we're
looking
at
this
Consulting
service
and
requiring
that
people
who
eventually
hold
Tec
tokens
in
order
to
participate?
A
This
brings
up
this
question
of
yes,
there
are
individuals
who
can
hold
the
token,
but
what
would
it
be
like
for
an
organization
to
be
required
to
hold
the
token
in
order
to
participate,
and
so
that's
that's
like
on
the
fundraising
size,
side,
side
of
it
and
then
there's
the
revenue
side
of
it,
which
is
service
fees,
so
that
might
be
working
group
consulting
revenues.
Let's
say
that
you
know
we
have
gravity
earning
income
today.
A
That's
an
example
of
that
transparency
where
to
start
earning
well,
it
is
starting
to
earn
some
revenues.
That
would
be
an
example
of
that
automated
some
of
these
automated
TV
service,
TDC
services
that
we're
talking
about
my
next
generation
of
our
services,
those
could
earn
Revenue.
Well
then,
taxes
in
quotes
I
should
put
that
in
quotes,
but
basically
that
automated
the
augmented
bonding
curve
has
tributes
entry
and
exit
tributes,
so
that
could
be
considered
a
kind
of
tax
by
the
economic
layer
of
the
TVC.
A
There
might
even
someday
be
service
tributes.
So
if
the
working
group
has
was
launched
by
the
TDC
was
funded
by
the
Tec
and
it
starts
earning
income
outside
of
the
Tec,
maybe
there
should
be
some
type
of
tribute
that
goes
back
to
the
Tec
for
all
the
support
it
provided
in
the
beginning
as
it
got
launched
and
then
finally
there's
the
financial
returns,
which
would
be
things
like
treasury
yield.
This
is
the
stuff
that
Nate
is
working
on
right
now
and
then
also,
you
know
token
appreciation.
A
So
if
we
were
doing
like
governance
swaps
with
allies
or
even
just
think
like
this
is
great-
and
this
is
crazy
right
now,
but
if
the
common
pool
funds
weren't
just
grants,
but
they
were
actual
investments
in
projects.
What
would
that
look
like
you
know
like
they
were
required
to
give
us
some
portion
of
their
tokens
as
part
of
that
investment,
so
there?
A
F
Yeah
I
think
it's
it's
great.
The
way
you
organize
it
by
categories
I,
think
that
provides
a
lot
of
clarity
to
like
the
different
projects
and
objectives
that
sample
could
take
and
even
I
feel
like
this
way.
You
can
look
at
it
like
from
time
perspective,
for
example,
like,
in
my
opinion,
to
start
getting
results
from
these
three
different
categories.
F
I
feel
like
fundraising,
is
more
like
in
in
the
short
term,
like
something
easier
that
could
that
could
get
done,
and
maybe
revenues
like
more
in
a
in
a
middle
term
and
and
financial
returns
is
probably
more
in
the
long
term
right,
but
at
the
same
time
are
the
three
of
them
are
things
that
have
to
start
being
working
on
now,
I
think
but
yeah
I
use
I,
just
see
that
you
know
so,
maybe
like
looking
forward.
F
E
Yeah
I,
like
the
taxonomy
of
it
too
I,
think
it
covers
everything.
E
The
one
aspect
of
just
kind
of
the
details
of
especially
the
services
realm
is
I
feel
that
we
still
don't
have
a
complete
picture
of
the
needs,
especially
when
it
comes
to
token
engineering
projects.
One
thing
types
of
services
we
can
offer
what
type
of
needs
that
they
actually
have.
E
I'm,
not
sure
that
we
are
embedded
enough
into
these
other
organizations
to
get
that
picture
yet,
and
so
that's
a
part
of
the
initiative
that
I
think
is
lacking
to
give
us
a
kind
of
a
you
know,
a
goal
post
or
you
know
a
milestone
marker
to
March
towards
and
so
I
think
that
that
kind
of
needs
to
be
on
on
our
on
our
minds
in
the
Forefront
of
our
minds.
E
G
Yeah
I
can
say
something
actually
so,
firstly,
maybe
like
discussing
the
token
utility
would
be
nice
like.
So
we
we
are
the
token
engineering
Commons
and
we
can
create
the
best
incentives
around
the
teas
token,
so
like
right
now,
there's
no
incentive
to
buy
TC
token
other
than
if
you
want
to
support.
If
you
wanted
to
participate
in
governance
or
if
you
wanted
to
support
this
organization,
but
there
may
be
some
other
things.
G
So
other
thing
I
want
to
ask
about
the
treasury
yields.
You
remember
like
maybe
two
three
meetings
ago
I
was
suggesting.
Maybe
we
can
create
like
TC
friends
who
that
we
can
invest
in
device
strategies
like,
for
example,
if
you
are
part
of
the
TC
Community,
if
you
wanted
to
utilize
your
money,
that
is
sitting
somewhere
else
and
if
you
trust
TCC
strategy
you
can
give
to
that
pool.
So
we
will
utilize
it
for
you.
It's
like
basically,
investment
banking
for
them.
G
G
C
Is
getting
that
I
I
mean
I,
don't
know
if
it's
kind
of
value
line
but
I
think
like
we
could.
You
know,
do
some
DJ
stuff
like
what,
if
we
just
make
like
a
raffle
or
stuff
like
that,
like
people,
you
know,
put
PC
tokens
and
then
they
get
you
know,
then
you
make
a
raffle
and
you
distribute
DC,
but
the
DC
gets
some
part
of
raffle
like
it
could
be
at
10
percent.
C
E
Not
and
I
I
do
think
that's
why
utility
is
extremely
important.
You
know
utility
is
long
term,
so,
even
if
it's
like
really
small
utility,
the
simplest
token
gated
channel
that
offers
something
that
nobody
else
has
and
people
are
interested
in
it
like
in
aggregate
those
those
small
things,
add
up
and-
and
you
have
this
really
strong
utility
for
the
token
and
so
I
think
really
focusing
on
that
those
permanent
pieces
of
of
utility
infrastructure
are
really
really
important
to
pursue.
So
I
think
we
just
need
to
keep
with
the
ideation
of
that.
D
I've
got
a
point:
what,
if
we
use
the
Tec
token
to
incentivize
more
token
Engineers
to
come,
spend
time
with
the
Tec?
What
if
we
had
like
bounties
for
token
Engineers
to
to
come,
earn
for
like
for
helping
a
project
that
comes
to
the
Tec
to
get
advice
on
their
tokonomics.
A
Foreign
yeah
I,
like
that
I
like
that
idea,
a
lot
I
mean
actually
two
ideas
on
that
front
that
we're
kind
of
playing
with
what
is
for
this
Consulting
intake
service.
A
These
projects
are
going
to
be
posted
on
a
on
the
Forum,
and
one
thing
that
Tam
and
I
are
thinking
about
is
basically
inviting
the
people
that
are
going
through
the
token
engineering
fundamentals.
Of
course,
this
new
course
is
in
the
fall
inviting
them
to
come
and
just
read
through
these
proposals,
and
and
basically
you
know
like
them
and
comment
on
them
on
them
as
a
way
to
kind
of
like
boost
the
signal
of
certain
projects
and
by
merely
interacting
with
the
TC
discourse.
A
You'll
get
praise.
So
that's
like
that's
one
way
of
doing
that.
Another
this
this
when
I
was
talking
to
Shaw
today
about
this
curating
tool,
like
you
could
imagine
kind
of
a
similar
thing
where
people
are
maybe
posting
interesting
articles
related
to
token
engineering
and
just
Dows,
and
things
like
that
in
our
Forum
in
a
particular
Channel
and
the
people
who
are
you
know,
let's
say
we
we
get
some
folks
from
the
token
engineering
fundamentals
course
coming
in
and
just
liking
and
interacting
with
posts
right.
A
D
I
I,
like
the
idea
too,
so
what
that
made
me
think
about
is
so
there
are
a
lot
of
materials
that
are
that
come
up
when,
like
that,
can
be
classified
as
tokenomics
materials
or
educational
materials,
but
they
all
take
a
lot
of
time
to
read
and
and
most
people
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
to
go
and
and
check
every
single
one
out,
let
alone
like
have
the
skill
set
to
be
able
to
really
understand
what
what
the
like,
how
to
apply
the
information
in
the
materials
that
so
I
I
think
that
if
we
I
I
have
a
filtering
process,
a
quality
filtering
process
to
be
able
to
identify
those
to
economic
articles
and
educational
materials
that
are
really
worth
most
people's
time
to
read.
D
That
could
help
build
up
our
token
engineering
skill
set
internally
and
also
Recruit
new
ones
and
train
up
new
ones.
Externally,.
E
D
And
we
can,
we
can
have
our
our
Discord
be
an
attractive
place
for
token
Engineers
to
come
to
to
keep
up
with
with
the
the
latest
high
quality
educational
materials.
A
A
F
Just
to
add
on
to
what
crypto,
Saxon
I
think
it's
a
super
cool
idea,
and-
and
this
just
made
me
think
about
these
efforts
that
are
happening
like
in
the
comms
working
group
in
the
marketing.
There
are
some
people
there
that
they,
they
are
trying
to
kind
of
like
find
ways
in
to
make
token
engineering
more
digestible
for
people
in
order
to
be
able
to
any
person
that
maybe
don't
have
the
the
the
the
knowledge
or
or
the
time
right
to
to
learn
about.
F
It
can
still
like
understand
it
and
especially
apply
it
right
into
apply
it
into
their
her
daily
lives.
So
I
think
that's
pretty
powerful.
If
we
find
a
way
to
make
this
easy
to
understand.
For
anyone
at
any
moment,
like
anywhere
I,
think
that
would
be
like
a
huge
value
proposition
that
we
that
we
could
have.
G
On
on
those
two,
like
I'd
love
to
say
so
in
Omega
version
group
we
are
creating
a
library,
I
know
it
took
longer
than
what
we
have
expected,
but
so,
for
example,
this
can
of
foreign
was
talking
thinking
about
maybe
creating
a
utility
around
TC
through
that
Library
like
we
have
very
good
quality
Creations
from
OG's.
D
C
E
G
Okay,
so
so
maybe
in
a
week
in
a
meeting.
A
Yeah,
okay:
we
we
need
to
I'm
gonna,
follow
up
with
you
on
that,
okay,
because
I
I
meant
to
do
that
today,
anyways
after
my
latest
call
so
I
will
follow
up
with
you
and
it
seems
like
some
people
are
not
able
to
hear
you
and
others
are
so
I'll
follow
up
with
you
separately.
A
Okay,
everybody.
We
are
at
the
top
of
the
hour
next
week,
we're
gonna
talk
about
I'm,
going
to
just
run
you
guys
all
through
the
the
sapo
steward
role.
A
We've
got
that
for
the
organizer
role
in
the
center
and
the
steward
role.
So
we
just
want
to
be
clear
about
what
these,
what
these
roles
are
supposed
to
be
doing.