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A
Okay,
what's
going
on
with
the
tc,
it's
a
very
beautiful
card
deck
and
then
this
came.
A
A
Yeah
ace
of
wands
and
and
then
it
was
like,
okay,
we're
hatching.
So
what
is
the
energy
we
need
to
like
have
for
the
hatch,
and
then
this
one
came,
it's
called
daughter
of
discs
and,
and
it
talks
about
like
a
it's
like
a
an
anchoring
energy
like
calling
a
name,
it's
like
giving
yourself
another
name,
type
of
thing,
so
it's
like
the
tc
is
becoming
itself
becoming
something
it's
like,
there's
something
grounding
it
and
then
and
then
I
asked
what
could
go
wrong.
A
A
How
do
we
deal
with
this?
With
this,
like
tendency
that
we
have
as
humans
now,
just
by
being
brought
up
in
the
society
to
have
like
very
big
power
dynamics,
and
then
it
came
this
one
that
talks
about
like
finding
your
own
center
and
your
own
power.
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
has
something
questions
that
you
want
to
start
the
call.
A
A
If
you
don't,
if
you
don't
I'll,
propose
like
a
three
minute
body
exercise,
so
you
better
say
it
quick.
A
A
A
E
A
E
A
Bit
and
let's
take
one
big
breath
together,
so
one
two
three
and
we
inhale.
A
A
A
I
think
there's
there's
a
lot
we'll
talk
about
like
policies
and
the
agreements
that
we
have
in
the
in
the
next
month,
post
the
hatch,
but
we
started
to
talk
about
this
last
weekend
and
then
zaptimiz
and
I
were
talking
about
his
proposal
and
we
thought
this
is
a
good
kind
of
a
case
study
for
us
to
look
at
together
and
see
what
is
working
for
our
decisions
and
what
is
not
so-
and
I
was
just
looking
at
snapshot
and
for
some
reason
I
could
not
find
what
is
our?
A
What
is
our
website?
Does
anybody
knows
on
the
top
of
their
head.
A
A
So
we
kind
of
followed
like
all
of
the
steps
that
we
would
like
to
have
it
followed
and-
and
there
was
a
good
incorporating
the
feedbacks
that
he
received
and
zap.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
it
like
what
was
the
process
for
you.
D
Yeah
initially,
like
my
my
idea
honestly,
was
to
get
more
engagement,
especially
like
from
you
know,
I
mean
I
don't
want
to
say
names,
but
yeah,
just
more
engagement
and
how
to
deal
with
this
and
yeah.
I
don't
know
I
just
prefer
like
you,
you
keep
talking.
G
D
No
one
asked
like
how
who,
like
honestly,
it
was
a
very
philosophical
question
and
you
know
who
should
have
the
credentials
for
dc,
who
should
act
in
name
of
it
like?
Should
it
be
centralized?
Should
it
not
be-
and
I
felt
like
it
was
a
lack
of
engagement
in
that
point
like
for
the
yeah,
for
the
tools
yeah?
Actually
it
was,
but
he
posted
that
but
yeah
he
what
what
dude
was
suggesting
we,
I
I
adapted
his
feedback
on
the
only
one
proposal
we.
A
A
F
The
proposal
just
start
something
for
now.
D
A
A
A
I
didn't
want
to
vote
for
it
because
I
wanted
to
suggest
having
like
one
more
person
added,
and
then
this
made
me
think.
Okay,
maybe
this
process
like
how
do
we
go
about
the
process
when
there
are
things
to
change
in
a
proposal,
even
after
advice,
process
or
like
what
is
the
minimum
quorum?
We
need.
A
Is
six
people
okay
to
pass
this
type
of
vote
or
or
not?
So
I
just
wanted
to
open
a
little
bit
for
thoughts.
Anyone
might
have,
and
maybe
let
me
frame
a
few
questions
here.
So
what.
H
H
I
don't
know
a
question,
but
I'll
just
say
what
I'm
thinking
so
using
the
forum
for
proposals
like
that.
I
can't
say
that
I
was
even
aware
of
this,
so
I
wonder
if
it
might
not
be
a
good
idea
to
have
a
universal
process.
Maybe
there.
Maybe
there
already
is-
and
I
just
don't
know
it
but
a
universal
process
for
creating
proposals
so
that
they
circulate
as
much
as
as
much
as
possible
or
that
they
receive
as
many
eyes
on
them
as
possible.
F
Yeah
I
resonate
with
with
katie.
I
understand
that
there's
some
some
times
that
we
need
to
vote
with
tools
like
lock,
which
we've
used
for
farms
and
for
impact
hours,
and
then
there
is
other
times
when
we
just
need
to
figure
out
the
opinion
of
the
community
and
we
use
the
forum
but
having
different
methods.
F
It
just
everything
spreads
spreads
out
and
it
makes
you
even
harder
to
figure
out.
Where
do
I
have
to
go?
Even
if
I
want
to
vote
or
even
knowing
that
I
there's
a
boat
going
on
and
unless
those
promoting
the
boat
do
the
effort
of
approaching
every
single
one
of
us,
or
at
least
some
of
us,
you
don't
even
realize.
I
remember
last
time,
zappy
approached
me
because
of
of
the
boat
he
was
posting
on
the.
A
Forum
yeah,
I
agree
that
we
need
to
find
solutions
for
for
both
of
them,
so
we
do
have
a
channel
here
that
it's
voting
on
discord,
tc
voting
and
then
it
seems
like
people
like
look
at
it.
A
We
could
start
using
that
for
all
the
votings
that
we
have
and
maybe
have
some
type
of
communication
like
in
those
weekly
letters
that
are
going
like.
We
include
a
section
for
proposals
and
even
when
there's
no
proposals,
at
least
we
say
like
there
are
no
proposals
this
week.
Just
so
people
get
used
to
having
that
information
there
and
knowing
what
is
the
place
to
look
at
and
then
another
question
is
what
is
the
minimum
quorum
needed
for
foreign
voting,
so
how
many
people
have
to
vote
for
us
to
think
like?
Okay?
B
I'm
just
wondering
as
well
further
to
the
question
of
the
minimum
coordinated
whether
like
certain
votes.
B
B
If
it's
a
like
that
one,
you
were
just
sharing,
which
seems
very
specific,
that
you
would
have
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
knowledge
of
the
different
options
available,
whether
you
know
it
might
make
more
sense
to
have
certain
votes
within
the
working
group
spaces
not
just
shut
people
off
at
all,
but
just
and
then
you
could
be
looking
at
the
minimum
quora
dependent
on.
We
need
this.
Many
in
this
working
group.
C
C
I
didn't
get
enough
votes
like
some
things
can
stay
in
a
working
group
and
if,
if
something
didn't
get
enough
votes,
you
know
I
feel
like
the
vote
was
more
just
like
getting
people's
awareness
or
trying
to
get
people's
awareness,
and
I
I
don't
know
I
feel
like
it's
there
in
in
that
you
know
everyone
kind
of
trusts,
these
up
to
do
the
make
the
best
decision,
and
you
follow
the
device
process
really
well
and
if
there's
only
four
votes.
C
That
seems
like
enough
to
me
as
long
as
it's
unanimous
and
if
there's
seven
votes
and
one
block
that
would
still
pass
as
well.
I
think
right
or
is
it
eight
votes
in
one
block-
would
still
pass.
C
C
Pretty
sure
that
like
people
knew
it
was
happening
or
enough,
people
knew
that
it
was
happening
that
like-
and
you
were
talking
about
it
for
weeks,
in
the
call
about
how
you
were
looking
into
this,
and
if
anyone
had
any
interest-
and
we
just
have
to
be
like
okay,
no
one,
even
though
it
affects
everyone
how
we
manage
our
digital
security.
F
I
I
agree
in
this
case
because
zap
was
already
you
know
announcing
it.
We
were
all
you
know.
Most
of
us
were
aware
of
that
of
it,
and
I
guess
that
voting
was
more
to
see
if
anyone
was
opposing
the
direction
that
we
were
taking
than
than
really
you
know
pushing
forward
for
it
and
and
for
those
kind
of
votes.
F
I
think
we
should
try
to
keep
them
in
one
in
one
place
or
through
one
same
process
and
as
as
lee
said,
I
think
it's
important.
If
there
is
nothing
to
vote,
we
just
go
there
and
we
see
you
know
there
is
nothing
to
go
this
week.
Just
don't
worry
about
it,
but
you
go
there
to
check
every
single
week
because
that's
the
place
you
gotta
go
to
to
make
sure
you
don't
miss
anybody.
H
I
agree
with
that
yeah.
That
sounds
great.
That's
that's
what
I
would
agree
with
too
and
now
that
after
griff
you
spoke
it
made
me
realize.
Oh
of
course
I
knew
zepty
was
talking
about
that
in
june,
but
I
didn't.
I
guess
I
didn't
realize
it
was
a
vote
or
that
it
needed
my
vote.
So
I
get
it.
That
sounds.
A
Good,
so
maybe
to
what
griff
said,
having
a
list
of
steps
to
follow
for
a
decision
to
be
made
in
the
forum
might
be
a
good
idea
to
like,
because
how
could
we
prevent
someone
of
just
posting
a
proposal
straight
into
the
forum
and
then
never
talked
to
nobody
before
about
it?
But
the
proposal
is
there
and
he
got
four
votes
and
then
this
person
feels
like.
A
C
I
I
think
it
would
be
through
advice
process
and
if
someone
could
object
to
be
like,
I
don't
believe
advice
process
was
followed,
then
like
like,
why
wasn't
I?
Why
didn't
anyone
tell
me
about
this?
That's
not
following
the
advice
process
right
so
you
just
say
well
you're
violating
the
advice
process.
D
I
F
That
can
can
be
changing
every
once
in
a
while.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
always
the
same
people
the
same
group
just
making
sure
that
all
the
processes
is
gone
through.
Okay
and-
and
it's
like-
we've
always
said
that
before
posting
on
the
forum,
you
have
to
start,
you
know,
checking
the
community.
If
your
proposal
might
be
interesting
or
not
after
that,
you
have
to
post
on
the
forum.
Then
then
we
have
to
go
through
voting
and
at
least
someone
should
check
that.
F
That's
that's
being
done
all
right
and
then,
if
one
proposal
gets
three
votes
and
another
one
gets
10
boats,
you
know
this
is
the
way
it
is.
If
you
get
enough
voting
to
you
know,
have
your
proposal
passed,
that's
the
way
we
work.
That's
that's
how
we
define
our
you
know
our,
but
but
at
least
we
make
sure
that
you
know
the
whole
process
was
was
taking
into
account
it.
It
went
through
all
the
steps
that
we
require
those
proposals.
B
Yeah,
I
agree,
I
think
that
makes
immense
sense
to
have
like
an
agreed,
easily
available,
step-by-step
guide
of
how
voting
is
expected
to
happen
or
proposal
making.
I
was
just
having
look
in
the
voting
channel.
There's
no
like
pinned
message
there,
so
that
would,
you
know
like
be
a
really
simple
place
to
have
expectations
shared.
A
D
Wouldn't
that
be
too
much
in
the
case
I
mean
imagine,
we
could
talk
about
this.
F
D
People
should
go
for
advice
process,
then
voting
then
ask
for
funds
from
conviction
voting.
Wouldn't
that
be
too
much.
A
F
F
You
know
maybe
mid
week
until
the
weekend
or
starting
on
friday
until
mid
of
next
week,
or
something
like
that.
So
if
you
go
out
for
a
weekend-
and
you
want
to
disconnect-
I
don't
think
it's
you
know
it's
a
good
idea
to
just
have
the
weekend
to
be
able
to
vote.
I
know
it's
just
a
boat,
but
sometimes
you
may
need
to
and
go
over
the
whatever
it's
needed
boat.
You
just
cannot
go
and
say
yes,
no
or
whatever.
The
voting
is
asking
for.
H
I
just
want
a
second
that
I
agree
that
the
weekend
making
the
weekend
point
for
very
important
procedures
is
really
well
for
me,
it's
like
literally
impossible.
H
D
D
Yeah
I
I
I
resonate
with
what
you
were
saying
at
the
beginning.
Maybe
we
should
have
more
defined
like
like,
like
I
don't
remember,
if
what's
your
sister
or
lately,
but
we
were
lacking,
they
they
were
asking
like.
We
were
lacking
transparency
on
our
processes
and
I
feel
it's
true
like
it's
like
we
were
discussing
now.
Four
votes
are
enough.
I
mean
I
don't
know.
J
I
just
think
the
transparency
is
not
about
the
amount
of
boats.
I
think
transparency
comes
comes
in
the
in
how
the
process
has
been
translated
and
communicated.
Also,
and
for
me,
these
kind
of
processes,
the
the
working
groups-
I
don't
know
how
it
works
necessarily
here,
but
the
working
groups
should
have
certain
dependency
on
one
kind
of
processes
they
can
sort
of
push
through
and
and
then
in
the
proposal.
It
should
be
stated
how
much
quorum
if
needed
it
is
necessary
or
not.
J
So
I
think
it's
it's
a
matter
of
understanding
the
working
group
set
of
boundaries
and
also
kind
of
if
you
don't
have
chorum
or
you
think
you
you
need
carbon.
It
can
be
escalated
to
the
stewards,
call
for
example,
and
then
bring
brought
to
the
stewards.
And
then
you
will
you
need
to
have
a
stewards
boats,
but
I
think
this
is
a
matter
of
understanding
the
boundaries
rather
than
understanding
how
many
goals
we
need.
So
my
two
cents
on
the.
A
J
Yeah,
it's
referring
to
these
boundaries
like
if,
if
a
proposal
is
for
a
working
group
and
that
proposal
is
within
the
scope
of
the
working
group
activities-
and
it
doesn't
affect
necessarily
something
that
affects
it-
it
will
affect
the
rest
of
the
community,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
it's
within
the
scope
of
the
working
group.
Basically,
then
they
work
in
group
such
as
a
core
room
and
then,
if
it
needs
to
be
escalated,
then
it's
connected
to
the
community
and
the
voter
is
open
to
your
community.
J
It
will
always
be
open
to
the
community,
but
it's
just
to
understand
like
this
process
of
of
not
necessarily
focusing
on
the
amount
of
votes,
but
just
what
is
the
purpose
of
of
the
proposal
who
it
affects
and
who
can
take
the
decision
to
push
it
through
if
it's
a
matter
for
the
community,
it's
a
matter
that
can
be
decided
by
the
working
group.
I
think
this
clarification
is
to
be
stated
on
the
proposal.
A
C
C
You
know
and
hasn't
caused
any
issues,
yet
in
general
in
general
defaulting
towards
like
yes,
a
default,
yes
is
should
be
treasured,
because
if
someone
wants
to
do
something
they
should
just
have,
they
should
get
permission
to
do
it
and
when
it's
you
know,
if
it's
spending
money
you
know
like
in
the
end,
it's
very,
I
think
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
working
groups,
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
independent
groups
trying
to
coordinate,
and
if
we
put
too
much
friction,
then
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
challenge
to
work
with
so
making
sure
that
it's
as
frictionless
as
possible,
but
with
like
open
standards
and
telling
people
be
considerate.
C
J
Yeah-
and
I
would
like
to
add
that,
even
if
default,
if
we
have
the
adjustable
default,
then
within
the
structure
or
within
the
boundaries
or
within
whatever
there
should
be
a
statement
that
if
you
got
a
default,
yes,
then
you
should
buy
transparency,
communicate
it
and
explain
it
to
the
community
like
that
should
be,
at
least
for
my
opinion.
I
must
like,
if
you
pass
at
the
full.
Yes,
then
you
have
to
come
forward
and
explain
and
sort
of
you
know
make
your
case
if
you
wanna
yeah,
so.
A
How
do
you
call
it
the
status
quo
rules
that
emerged,
because
you
have
the
things
that
are
required
and
the
things
that
are
forbidden
and
then
everything
that
is
in
between
is
permitted
and
the
permitted
can
start
creating
status
quo
rules
that
are
very
like
intrinsic
to
the
the
behavior
of
everyone
into
the
way
the
community
operates.
So
so,
maybe
we
can
have
this
process
happening
like
very
free
and
then
maybe
every
two
months
or
something
like
that
have
a
like
a
status
quo
rule
check
like
see
what
has
emerged.
A
A
That
needs
to
change,
but
mostly
the
communication,
so
having
more
clear
channels
for
when
a
voting
is
happening
and
then
extending
this
cultural
idea
that
votes
and
on
on
tuesday,
and
that
we
don't
need
a
quorum,
but
that
we
need
like
advice,
process
and
some
type
of
open
dialogue
about
what
is
trying
to
be
done
and
then
add
a
proposal
section
to
the
weekly
updates
and
always
use
the
voting
chat
on
this
court
to
check
on
stuff
and
then
have
some
type
of
like
periodic
checks
about
like
to
understand
what
is
culturally
emerging.
J
I
just
want
to
say
that,
for
me,
this
is
like
hugely
relevant
in
the
sense
of
understanding
these
processes
in
order
to
escalate
it
to
whatever
gonna
happens
after
the
hajj,
and
I
think
we
should
not
underestimate
these
mechanisms
and
the
lack
of
engagement,
even
the
except
dimension,
and
at
some
point
we
should
have
this
conversation
of
sort
of
understanding.
These
dynamics
could
be
working,
it's
going
to
be
working.
J
Groups
could
be
proposals
whatever,
instead
of
bringing
it
to
to
the
paper,
so
we
can
sort
of
all
have
the
same
agreement
or
consensus
and
what
will
be
the
ideal
transparency
practices
that
we
will
be
deploying.
J
To
sort
of
find
a
consensus
on
this
kind
of
conversation
that
we
were
just
having
a
consensus
that
can
can
be
outlined
outlined
to
the
rest
of
the
community.
J
F
A
A
G
Yeah,
I
have
a
question
regarding
the
point
that
says:
working
groups
should
have
some
independence.
Maybe
I
missed
that
part,
but
I
don't
quite
get
it
so
if
you
could
explain
it
easily,
what
does
that
mean.
A
But
but
from
my
understanding
was
just
the
idea
that
or
or
maybe
on
marie
actually
that
working
groups
should
have
some
type
of
independence
on
making
decisions
and
what
types
of
decisions
even
need
to
be
voted
on.
G
B
Yeah
it
was,
it
was
more
really
that
I
guess
the
way
that
I
equate
decentralization.
B
It
doesn't
mean
that
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
everything
has
to
be
open
to
everyone
in
the
sense
that,
like
I
find
it
incredibly
useful
to
have
an
immense
amount
of
trust,
so
like
I'll
trust
that
certain
people
have
better
skills
at
making
decisions
on
things
than
I
do
like.
B
I
might
just
not
have
the
knowledge
or
the
experience,
and
it
just
feels
to
me
like
it
makes
things
flow
a
lot
easier
if
there
is
a
level
of
trust
given
to
like
people
that
working
on
a
certain
thing
and
have
if
it's
a
fair,
you
know
if
it's
a
very
specific
thing,
it's
great
to
have
that
open.
But
from
my
perspective
it
would
to
me
it
would
make
more
sense
to
kind
of
have
the
trust
that.
B
People
that
have
the
specific
knowledge
are
possibly
the
ones
to
make
the
right
decision,
and
I
guess
that
kind
of
I
guess
what
I've
been
finding
really
interesting
about
the
dow
space
and
kind
of
having
open
votes
is
that,
like
anyone
could
vote
on
anything,
I
could.
I
could
just
vote
on
things.
It
doesn't
mean
I
could
just
be
sick.
B
Looking
out
the
window
pressing
a
button,
not
saying
that's
necessarily
what
people
are
doing,
but,
whereas
I
guess
yeah
just
it
to
me,
it
makes
sense
of
like
making
things
move
very
easily
if
small
groups
are
making
decisions
and
moving
things
forward.
G
Yeah,
I
agree
with
that,
and
I
was
asking
because
I
had
in
mind
that
it's
very
likely
that
the
proposals
when
they
pass
either
they
become
part
of
a
working
group
or
they
become
a
working
group
for
their
own,
so
that
sense
of
independence
and
what
what
animal
he
was
saying
makes
more
sense
in
that
aspect
so
yeah.
I.
G
H
Yeah
we
talked
about
this
some
time
ago.
I
remember
with
nate,
who
I
guess
he's
not
here,
but
I
think
that
we
agreed
that
that's
that's
a
good
way
to
function.
A
C
Minutes,
if
no
one
has
anything
else,
there's
an
impact
hour.
If
anyone
wants
to
join
the
the
final
math
work
that
ygg
and
jeff-
and
I
and
I
think
olivia
will
be
there
too
tonight
we're
doing
a
big
finalizing
the
impact
hour
list,
there's
nothing.
Anyone
can
really
help
with
it's
really
like
ygg
playing
python
and
jeff,
and
I
finally
finalizing
like
the
ideas
on
it.
C
But
olivia
was
talking
about
writing
a
forum
post
to
explain
how
the
impact
hours
are
going
to
be
shifted
or
like
what
the
results
of
the
compromise
ended
up
being
and
then
also.
I
think
it's
just
worth
kind
of
a
note
that
we
discovered
that
the
in
in
testing
and
discussing
the
the
to
keep
the
simple
supply
constant
we
actually
had
to.
We
have
to
like
reduce
the
number
of
impact
hours
that
everyone
is
getting
so
for
for
the
builders
like
the
25,
20
10.
C
We
it's
not
like
a
lot.
I
think
it's
like
what
will
that
be
like
a
five
percent
reduction
in
hours
and
then
so
instead,
like
we're
kind
of
just
doing
percentages
so
like
yeah
anyway,
it's
a
co.
It's
some
complicated
stuff
and
the
impact
hours
got
way
out
of
control
so
like
yeah,
it's
kind
of
it
honestly
it's
kind
of
a
mess,
but
it
will
be
clear
how
they
were
created
eventually.
C
So
I
I
guess
I
would
love
some
advice
process
if
we
should
like
stop
the
launch
and
not
launch
before
I.
I
really
hope
that
I
I
just
like.
Should
we
make
that
process
abundantly
clear
so
that
everyone
can
follow
and
document
it
like
really
well,
and
that
would
block
the
hatch
from
launching
tomorrow
until
that's
documented
really
well,
or
is
it
okay
to
document
it
really
well,
and
have
that
not
block
the
hat?
K
Oh
exciting
so
well,
I
have
the
advantage
of
having
had
some
time
to
speak
with
you
earlier
and
think
about
it
a
little
bit,
but
I
like
the
idea
of
having
the
finalist
distribution
with
a
summary
of
the
the
compromised
collaboration
that
was
made,
and
since
that
was
what
was
voted
in
and
then
having
the
more
technical,
detailed
version
come
very
quickly
after.
I
don't
think
that
the
technical,
detailed
version
should
prevent
us
from
hatching.
K
And
I'll
pass
to
anne.
B
Marie
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
I
have
all
the
contacts
needed,
but
my
sense
is
if,
if
it's
been
voted
in
already-
and
it's
been
agreed
that
that's
how
we're
moving
forward
then
move
forward
with
the
hatch
and
yep.
That
would
be
what
I'd
say:
mateo.
F
I
have
my
own
opinion.
I
think,
all
this
all
these
impact
hours
thing
has
gone
away
over
hands
and
I
don't
really
like
the
idea
of
stopping
the
hatch.
I
hate
that
idea,
but
I
think
anyone
should
have
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
the
final
result
and
give
their
opinion.
F
That's
something
that
even
though
we
voted
one
thing
is
voting,
another
thing
is
seeing
the
result,
and
you
know
people
may
be
surprised,
happy
or
unhappy.
You
know,
and
but
at
the
same
time
I
I
just
don't
want
to
stop
the
hatch
at
all.
So
I
just
don't
know
how
to
solve
that
issue.
I
don't
know
we
should
give
a
few
hours
for
you
know
for
listening
to
anyone
before
the
hatch
starts
tomorrow
and
if
you
guys
finish
today,
I
just
don't
want
to
be
involved.
F
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
work
and
I
appreciate
all
your
involvement,
but
I
think
I'm
one
of
the
whales.
I
don't
want
to
get
involved.
I
don't
really
like
the
way
this
has
been
outcome.
I
I'm
not
blaming
anyone
at
all,
but
but
I
just
don't
think
I
never
thought
that
we
should
touch
what
had
been
had
been
done
before.
So
I
just
I
just
feel
better.
If
I
don't
get
involved,
that's
my
own.
J
Opinion
I
can
take
it.
I
think
we
should
hatch.
I
think
we
are
doubting
ourselves
a
little
bit
too
much
on
on
certain
circumstances.
There
was
a
vote
and
we
I
I
see-
and
I
can
tell
that
we
have
done
the
best
of
what
we
can.
J
Oh,
the
things
that
we
could
do
to
achieve
a
horizontal
process
that
could
sort
of
compile
the
most
of
the
opinions
that
everyone
that
voted,
and
I
think
we
have
fulfilled
that
role
and-
and
we
at
some
point
we
should
be
able
to
also
understand
like
when
to
call
it
out
and
when
to
just
stop
questioning.
If
it's
a,
if
we
need
more
time,
if
we
you
know,
there's
there's,
we
should
draw
the
line.
Also
understanding
if
you
are
the
ones
who
have
the
information
and
you
make
the
best
that
you
could
do.
J
H
Thank
you
yeah.
I
totally
agree
with
that
and
certainly
yeah.
So
many
great
points.
Griff
anna,
marie
tam
santi
you
can
have.
We
certainly
can
see
all
of
the
details
later,
but
and
have
opinions
on
it
and
discussions,
but
I
don't
think
that
itself
needs
to
inhibit
the
hatch
at
all.
You
know
right
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
I
don't
need
to
ramble
on
okay
I'll
pass
to
mount
money.
I
Thanks,
I
don't
have
anything
else
to
say
other
than
I
have
an
idea
for
a
proposal.
I
just
can't
do
it
by
myself
it.
It
involves
micro,
franchising
and
creating
some
sort
of
like,
like
an
incubator
for
micro
franchises,
so
that
lifting
people
out
of
poverty
becomes
profitable
again,
like
aligning
incentives,
but
it's
it's
complex
and
I
can
do
it
by
myself.
I
I
don't
have
enough,
you
know
development,
economic
experience,
so
if
anyone
else
is
interested,
I
know
mateo
was
a
little
bit
interested
when
I
mentioned
it
to
him
to
him.
I
know
graves
is
going
to
be
definitely
interested.
Actually,
the
placeholder
name
is
lifteth
in
honor
of
giveth
but
yeah.
If
anyone
else
interested
in
maybe
discussing
it
or
or
thinking
about
how
we
can
do
it,
then
just
message
me
and
yeah:
that's
it!
Oh
back
to
you.
A
I
don't
think
this
should
block
the
hatch,
because
I
think
there
was
a
a
process
that
I
think
it
was
the
most
beautiful
outcome
we
could
have
had.
I
think
it
would
be
very
harmful
for
us
if
we
had
continued
on
a
polarized
route
and
I
think
that's
a
very
common
thing
to
happen
like
we
are
a
large
community
of
people
from
all
over
the
world,
with
all
sorts
of
different
experiences
and
life
and
beliefs
and
everything.
So
I
think
we
handled
well
like
or
in
the
best
way
possible.
A
This
polarization
and-
and
I
feel
like
it
deserves
a
good
story
and
it
deserves
to
be
talked
in
in
its
multiplicity,
not
only
from
the
like
impact,
our
perspective,
but
also
from
the
cultural
perspective
and
from
like
what
were
the
processes
that
happened
with
everyone,
because
I
think
it's
also
what
we're
doing
here,
this
research
on
the
cultural
building,
understanding
and
documenting
these
things
that
are
not
so
easy
to
be
visible
from
someone
that
is
not
from
the
community.
A
A
And
also
just
the
point
of
like,
if
we
could,
if
people
should
have
space
to
voice
their
opinions
about
that,
I
think
they
should.
But
I
don't
know
if
this
should,
I
don't
think,
there's
a
decision
that
can
come
from
the
comments
that
people
can
make.
So
I
don't
think
that
should
delay
the
hatch.
A
C
The
final
list
will
have
to
be
posted,
just
in
fact,
I
would
love
to
hear
you
respond
to
this
santi.
The
final
list
has
to
be
posted.
It's
just
all
making
it
digestible
of
all
the
details
that
how
it
got
there
in
the
end
that
final
list
will
be
on
github,
but
it
just
won't
be
well
documented,
so
we'll
be
there
but
like
to
make
it
digestible.
Is
that
takes
time
and
the
final
list
will
be
out
probably
a
good
12
hours
minimum
before
we
hatch.
F
F
C
F
Effort
and
then
just
party
in
paris
and
everything
gets
we
are
we
all
happy
after
that.
F
D
C
C
F
J
All
right
guys,
I
hope,
to
see
you
tomorrow,
all
in
handstand.
I
will
leave
you
to
work
and
if
anything
is
needed,
let
us
know
take
care.