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A
So
I
just
wanted
to
start
with
intentions
to
see
if
anyone
has
something
to
add
to
the
agenda
and
also
we're
gonna
have
a
little
bit
of
a
discussion
in
a
little
bit.
So
just
to
start
with
a
quick
intentions,
distractions
and
if
there's
anything,
you
would
like
to
see
in
soft
gov
before
we
start
to
wrap
up.
At
least
this
phase
of
this
working
group
and
I'll
pass
to
you
tom.
To
start,
I'm
so
unprepared.
C
B
I
think,
maybe
I
don't
know
if
it's
already
in
the
manifesto,
but
just
like
what
would
success?
Look
like
you
know
if
and
the
next
phase
like?
Is
there
a
next
phase
or
does
soft
gov
dissolve
into
the
tec,
and
this
permeates
everywhere
and
in
either
case?
What
does
that
look
like?
So
what
does
it
look
like
if
softgov
sort
of
retired
like
wraps
up
and
what
does
it
look
like
if
softgov
you
know,
2.0
launches
and
and
what
that
would
look
like,
so
maybe
it's
sort
of
like
what
comes
next.
A
D
B
A
E
I'd
like
to
see
myself
there
we
go
intentions.
Yeah
I
mean
I
just
like
to
come.
This
is
among
my
favorite
of
the
groups
yeah.
I
guess
we're
coming
to
the
end
of
the
phase.
I
guess,
but
you
know
seems
like
this
will
become
even
more
important
to
in
the
regular
running
of
the
dao.
You
know
in
terms
of.
E
You
know
what
comes
next,
you
know
and
just
trying
to
trying
to
keep
the
culture
of
you
know:
open
governance.
C
E
That
kind
of
thing
is
going
to
be
an
even
bigger
challenge,
because
the
stakes
will
be
higher
and
they'll
be
money
and
other
people,
and
that's
going
to
be
especially
the
case
if
septimus's
casino
passes,
because
we'll
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
in
and
out
of
here,
trying
to
try
to
knock
us
off
of
the
of
the
culture
that
we
built.
So
in
any
case,
yeah
distractions
is,
as
always,
my
regular
job
and
what
was
the
third
thing.
E
E
To
whoever
hasn't
gone,
I
don't
know
I'm
sorry.
D
Yeah
good
questions,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
some
things
that
I
surfaced
in
the
stewart's
chat
a
couple
days
ago
and
it
was
like
I
would
keep
on
arriving
at
these
like
mixed
decision-making
processes
and
sometimes
they're,
half-baked
and
sometimes
they're
fully
baked.
But
nobody
follows
up
on
them
and
so
like
how
do
we?
How
do
we
deal
with
those
situations.
F
Hi,
my
intentions
are
learning
and
and
kind
of
I
know
this
sounds
like
this
group
is
phasing
out
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
just
I'm
trying
to
show
up
kind
of
get
involved
more
consistently
and
kind
of
set
aside
some
other
distractions,
which
brings
me
to
distractions.
I
guess
all
the
other
things
outside
of
the
space.
F
I
there's
so
much
just
in
general
in
this
area
that
I'm
relatively
new,
so
kind
of
just
learning,
to
set
those
things
aside
and
and
focus
on
certain
things,
so
yeah
I'll
pass
to
nate.
C
Yeah,
I'm
here
sorry,
I
couldn't
hear
if
you
said
my
name
or
not
yeah,
so
my
intentions
are
just
to
catch
up
and
see
where
I
can
contribute.
Distractions
are
not
at
the
moment.
I'm
just
you
know,
reading
up
on
your
new
documents
and
what
would
it
look
like
if
soft
governs
it
would
look
pretty
terrible?
I
think
that
you
kind
of
have
to
have
this
group
for
a
little
while,
until
you
have
the
working
groups
dependently
operating
on
their
own,
completely
autonomous
yeah.
C
What
comes
next,
I
would
say
that
I
don't
know
it'd
be
really
nice
to
see
how
these
working
groups
kind
of
separate
their
work
and
have
these
kind
of
like
sub-teams
or
sub-working
groups.
I
think
that's
really
something
that
we
should
focus
on
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
organize
their
own
individual
teams
and
and
see
and
see
how
they
can
improve
their
productivity.
In
that
way,
I'm
gonna
pass
it
on
to
cesar.
G
Hey
everyone:
let's
see,
my
intentions
are
to
sort
of
catch
up
with
what
the
group
has
been
up
to
I
haven't.
I
did.
G
I
think
I
missed
like
the
last
one
or
two
meetings
so
yeah,
so
I'm
curious
about
that
distractions,
not
too
many.
Besides
my
internet
kind
of
being
glitchy
but
other
than
that,
no
no
major
distractions.
And
then
what
was
what
was
the
last
question.
A
Just
what
would
you
like
to
see
in
southgate.
G
A
And
then
I
have
a
few
questions
today
that
will
help
us
iterate
on
that.
It's
a
pretty
big
thing,
but
I
think
we
are
like
starting
to
have
a
more
shaped
structure,
and
then
I
don't
see
this
working
group
like
dissolving.
A
Completely,
but
I
think
a
next
phase
would
be
more
like
a
study
group
instead
of
a
working
group.
Type
of
dynamic,
like
I
think,
a
lot
of
the
the
tasks
that
we're
hands
on
working
are
are
dissolved
into
many
other
working
groups
and-
and
I
would
love
to
see
safgov
being
more
like
hey.
What
are
some
governance
papers
that
we
can
read?
What
are
some
like
research
that
we
can
do
on
what
is
happening
in
other
communities?
How
can
we
improve
the
dynamism
of
our
polycentric
governance
structure?
A
A
The
the
pace
that
we're
in
so
there's
two
there's
just
one
like
very
practical
thing
in
the
agenda
today.
That
is
the
snapshot
decision,
so
I
would
like
to
have
like
a
working
group
advice
process
that
maybe
we
can
get
out
of
this
call
with
this
decision
made
and
what
happens
for
context.
Is
we
passed
a
proposal
for
the
snapshot
parameters
that
we
were
going
to
use
just
quadratic
voting
and
quadratic
ring
choice
voting,
so
we've
been
using
just
this
shoe
so
far,
all
good
in
that
sense,
but
quadratic
ranked
choice.
A
A
What
comes
after
oxidatic
octaves?
Well,
we
have
the
we
have
the
root
of
eight
to
the
quadratic
voting
so
instead
of
like
having
just
the
can
somebody
help
me
here.
How
do
you
even
say
that.
D
A
A
A
Every
time
we
want
to
use
quadratic
ranked
choice,
voting
or
we
leave
that
strategy
there,
and
then
we
use
the
normal
voting
that
will
become
quadratic
also,
but
then
using
the
normal
voting
would
limit
our
decision
making
to
just
yes
or
no,
because
that's
the
only
way
it
would
work,
because
in
quadratic
voting
there
is
a
feature
that
people
can
divide
their
votes
between
many
proposals,
so
that
wouldn't
be
possible
if
we
use
just
the
normal
voting
with
the
quadratic
strategy
that
we
added
on
this
is
a
bit
complicated.
Did
it
make
sense.
C
A
A
A
I
preferred
the
second
one,
but
then
there
is
kind
of
a
moral
question
that
is
only
a
few.
People
can
add
that
strategy
there,
so
the
votes
become
a
little
bit
permissioned.
C
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day,
snapshot
is
just
used
for
signaling
and
there's
no
on-chain
link,
so
I
mean
there's
going
to
have
to
be
some
decision-making
and
discretion
by
some
small
group
of
individuals
anyway.
So
I
think
that
the
second
one
is
a
lot
better,
but
I
I
always
always
assume
that
these
were
separate.
Instances
of
snapshot,
though,
are
they
not.
A
A
A
A
People
would
still
be
able
to
make
their
own
proposals.
The
only
thing
that
needs
to
be
someone
that
is
that
has
the
permissions
is
to
add
the
strategy.
So
like
let's
say
you
don't
you're,
not
one
of
the
addresses
there.
That
can
add
a
strategy
that
can
change
the
settings,
but
you
want
to
make
a
ring
choice,
vote
proposal.
Then
you
come.
B
B
A
C
A
A
They
didn't
say
about
the
future.
They
just
said
that
that
that
that's
how
it
is
no
like
they
didn't
seem
interested
to
solve
or
to
even
guide
us
on
how
to
solve
so.
A
Okay,
next
topic.
A
First
of
all,
I
think
it's
clear
for
everyone
now
that
we
only
need
five
proposals
and
five
people
advocating
for
these
proposals.
So,
like
the
idea
is
by
the
time
that
we
postponed
the
vote
there
was
we
didn't
have
this.
We
didn't
have
like
five
different
proposals
that
five
different
people
were
comfortable
to
advocate,
for,
I
think
it
seems
like
we
are
on
a
path
now
that
we
have
that.
A
A
C
C
B
B
I
am
very
swayed
by
the
rationale
you
know
so
it's
sort
of
like
looking
at
the
numbers
as
an
indication
for
me,
but
it's
like
reading
the
rationale
along
with
the
numbers
is
sort
of
what
yeah,
what
I
find
to
be
most
convincing.
E
Well,
part
of
my
issue
with
the
whole
thing
is,
is
that
I
just
don't
have
any
experience
at
any
of
this,
and
it's
also
true
that
I
think
we're
also
a
little
bit
informed
in
terms
of
what's
gonna
happen.
Now,
I'm
I'm
really
mindful
of
of
the
experience
of
like
companies
like
roblox
that
started
off.
As
you
know,
family-friendly
you
know,
groups
that
are
now
just
horrifyingly,
enabling
you
know
predators
and
and
and
basically
you
know,
gambling
and
all
these
things,
and
you
know
it's
just
when
money
gets
involved.
E
You
know,
there's
all
these
things,
that
all
these
compromises
happen,
and
I
don't
know
you
know
in
terms
of
how
that
evolves.
You
know,
so
I
see
that
there
are
certain
time
frames
and
and
some
other
metrics
that
enable
us
to
maybe
modify
those
things
going
forward.
It's
just.
I
guess
I
worry
a
little
bit
in
terms
of.
E
Impact
you
know
like
if
we
end
up
with
you,
know
a
bunch
of
people
in
our
culture
who
weren't
here
and
don't
really
know
what's
going
on
if
that
culture
can
be
vastly
modified
just
because
of
the
stakes
involved,
you
know,
let's
say
that
I'm
suddenly
worth
you
know
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
because
I've
got
a
bunch
of
tech
tokens
geez.
Maybe
my
thinking
is
going
to
be
real
different.
E
D
D
D
A
I
think
it's
an
important
question
of
like
the
way
the
way.
The
way
I
thought
we
could
frame.
This
is
just
what
types
of
compromises
are
we
having
culturally
like
it
doesn't
mean
that
they
are
negative
or
that
we
shouldn't
have
them,
but
maybe
it's
a
good.
It's
a
good
thing
to
just
be
aware
of
like.
Is
there
anything
that
we're
compromising
when,
when
the
economy
is
going
to
be
open
and
then
just
like
having
that
like,
we
don't
even
need
to
act
on
anything.
You
know.
E
Right,
I
I
don't
understand
so
much
how
the
parameters
work.
I
haven't
created
my
own
because
I
just
I've
been
to
a
bunch
of
prams
parties.
I
don't
fully
understand
it.
I
don't
have
enough
experience.
This
is
my
very
first
dow.
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying
like
I
just
there's
just
so
many
things
I
don't
know
about.
E
You
know
the
effect
of
things
in
the
long
term
and
and
when
there
are,
you
know
big
money
things
at
stake.
You
know
I've
seen
the
evolution
of
other
communities
and
see
them
sort
of
after
the
fact.
E
But
I
don't
know
what
you
know
this
place
could
look
like
after
that
kind
of
pressure
comes
you
know,
so
I'm
glad
we
have
people
who've
been
around
in
communities
like
this
like
griff,
who
perhaps
you
know,
have
a
steady
hand
with
the
the
thing,
but
you
know
the
parameters
in
terms
of
you
know
just
the
strict
numbers
of
that
just
doesn't
say
enough
to
me
about
my
concerns
to
you
know
make
it
so
that
I
feel
a
little
better
about
that.
E
B
B
Ready,
like
I
really
finally
have
like
the
params
that
I
feel
are
important
and
where
they
should
be,
and
then
I
was
having
a
conversation
with
griff
today
and
he
pointed
out
something
that
I
just
hadn't,
I
hadn't
pieced
together
before
and
it
was
about
this
idea
of
having
a
low
reserve
ratio,
but
then
the
issuance
of
future
tokens
would
be
lower,
so
there
would
be
less
governance
rights
to
incoming,
and
I
was
just
like
wait.
B
C
Sorry,
as
you
can
see,
part
of
me
wants
the
the
final
debate
to
be
centered
around
that,
rather
than
the
proposals
themselves,
but
you
know
that
might
be
focusing
on
the
proposals.
I
was
just
curious
about
the
format
final
debate-
it's
just
maybe
two
hours
long,
but
I'd
really
like
to
like
deep
dive
and
explore
all
the
dynamics
of
of
these
design
choices
and
have
that
presented
to
everybody
who's
attending.
Rather
than
saying
this
proposal,
I'm
defending
it
for
whatever
reason
like.
D
E
Well,
and
for
me,
it's
like
a
polarity
map
in
a
way
right.
The
most
common
polarity
map
is
stability
versus
change
right,
and
so
how
do
you?
How
do
you
x
that
up
so
that
the
benefits
of
stability
exist
and
the
benefits
of
change
exist
while
minimizing
the
risks
of
both
right-
and
you
know,
I
would
sure,
like
to
see
stability
versus
change?
You
know
map
mapped
out
like
that,
so
perhaps
people
could
have
a
clear
understanding
of
where
proposals
come
on
this
kind
of
thing.
C
A
Maybe
we
could,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
great
ideas
coming
up
here.
Maybe
we
could
have
some
type
of
culturally
framed
debates
like
how
could
we
look
at
the
proposals
from
the
cultural
build
standpoint,
and
maybe
that
could
be
one
debate
itself.
If
you
wanted
to
structure
that
nate,
I
don't.
E
Yeah,
I'm
not
saying
that
we
may
want
a
bunch
of
speculators
in
there.
It's
just
do
we
have
a
cultural
support
in
there
that
would
prevent
potential.
You
know
backlash
from
that.
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying?
So
I
don't
what
I
hear.
A
lot
is
just
focusing
completely
on
the
parameters,
but
you
could
have
a
thing
where
we're
like
yeah.
We
want
speculators
in
here,
but
we
have
a
cultural.
E
You
know
build
that
says:
okay,
we're
going
to
be
ready
for
that.
You
know
what
I
mean
so
that
the
culture
doesn't
spin
up
and
out
and
become
something
unrecognizable
to
us
right.
So
that's,
I
guess
part
of
what
I'm
saying
is
you
know
whatever
it
is
that
we're
going
to
choose?
Are
we
culturally
prepared
for
whatever?
That
is
too?
You
know
so.
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
I
I
think
that's
been.
I
think
we've
been
looking
into
that,
but
definitely
maybe
something
like
this
would
be
one
extra
step,
maybe
late.
If
you
feel
excited
about
it,
to
look
into
something
like
this
like
how
to
debate
to
structure
a
debate
focused
on
on
the
cultural
build,
it
could
be
part
of
the
spreadsheet
that
you're
working
on.
H
H
A
Cool
and
then
the
next
topics
I
wanted
to
bring
in
is
somehow
related
to
what
you
said.
Oh
so
much
of
the
of
how
are
we
managing
these
decisions
of
how
like
some
decisions,
they
escape
sometimes
our
framework,
and
how
are
we
dealing
with
them,
and
there
is
something
I've
been
chewing
on
this
week,
that
is
exploring
the
consent
space.
A
So
this
is,
there
are
like
so
many
governance
papers
about
this
and
the
difference
of
consent
and
consensus,
and
how
can
we
hold
space
for
consent
to
exist,
and
I
think
there
is
a
power
structure
that
sometimes
is
quite
invisible.
A
A
So,
for
example,
what
happened
like?
Oh
we
had
that
rush
decision,
and
then
we
had
a
whole
session
to
discuss
it
and
and
then
we
had
a
lot
of
learnings
from
there.
But
how
can
we
bring
those
learnings
into
like
our
decision
making
our
decision
making
space
our
like
design
space.
D
D
Well,
so
I
had
a
good
discussion
with
griff
and
probably
some
other
of
you,
and
so
it
was
like
we
walked
away
from.
There
was
like
okay,
minimum
24
hour
advice
process,
it's
like
that's
it
you
know
and
ideally
can
be.
It
can
be
available
like
asynchronously
right,
so
we
we
identified
that
two
things.
I
think
from
that
conversation
specific
to
this
situation
was
that
it
was
done
very
quickly
like
15
minutes,
20
minutes
tops
and
people
who
didn't
know
it
was
happening.
F
A
D
It
it
doesn't
because
I
don't
want
to
put
a
container,
because
I
don't
want
them
to
be
rules,
but
it's
like
things
that
we
should
reflect
about
be
like.
Can
everybody
in
every
time
zone
see
this
okay
and
can
everybody
who
is
not
in
the
meeting
see
this?
So
it's
like
these.
These
factors
of
like
having
to
be
at
the
same
time
in
the
same
place,
are
limiting
factors.
A
No,
I
think
the
containers
are
important
because
they
are
one
of
the
factors
of
advice
process
that
is
who
is
going
to
be
affected
by
this
decision.
So
this
gives
a
container
it's
like.
Who
are
the
people
that
need
to
be
paying
attention
in
this,
and
how
can
I
communicate
with
them,
and
how
can
I
reach
out
to
them?
So
I
think
this
first
evaluation
of
who
is
going
to
be
affected
by
this
gives
gives
a
container
as
an
output,
and
in
that
sense
it's
like.
Oh,
maybe
this
wasn't
a
working
group
decision.
A
This
was
a
community
decision,
so
it's
a
much
larger
container
and
then
that
factories
in
time
for
how
long
that
should
be
visible.
How
are
people
going
to
be
notified
about
this,
and-
and
I
think,
there's
other
factors
too-
that
it's
more
what
I
was
wanting
to
bring
to
this
discussion
of
like
how
people
need
to
feel
prepared
for
for
participating
in
a
decision-
and
I
think
aloysius
has
been
bringing
this
to
my
attention
a
lot
of
like
how
well
people
feel
when
they
need
to
decide
something
like
what
are
some
like?
A
A
E
I
was
just
saying
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
that
graphic
that
I
posted
there
was
like
a
six
part
trauma
informed
sort
of.
I
don't
know.
What
do
you
want
to
say
social
space,
you
know
and
then
it
I
think
we
do
the
first
five
of
those
really
really
well.
You
know
it
goes
to
principles
handle
some
of
that
I'll.
E
Maybe
if
you
can
it's
the
link
in
the
soft
gov,
maybe
I
can
add
that
into
this
and
then
you
can
see
what
I'm
talking
about,
but
I
I
will
say
that
it's
really
that
final
piece.
I
think
that
that
we
don't
necessarily
do
as
well,
which
is
all
the
specifically
the
the
diversity
space
stuff,
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
other
things
which
I
like
to
pop
in
there.
So
you
can
see
it
real,
quick
and
then
you
guys
can
move
on.
B
I'm
just
gonna
say:
oh,
I
thought
we
were
going
to
bring
it
up.
I
will
pop
it
in
I
mean
you
know
if
we're
using
this
isn't
applied
to
all
cases,
but
for
this
one
specific
case,
I
think
that
there's
you
know,
maybe
it
does
apply
to
more
cases.
There's
the
decision
like.
Should
we
extend
the
timeline
yes
or
no,
but
then
there's
like
what
does
it
mean
like?
If
we
don't
extend
it?
What
happens
if
we
do
extend
it?
B
What
happens
so
it's
sort
of
like
well,
what
are
the
consequences
from
the
vote
and
I
feel
like
there's,
I
don't
feel
like,
but
oftentimes
if
a
like
a
group
is
making
a
decision
that
sort
of
portrayed
ahead
of
time
so
that
information
is
collected
and
then
it's
sort
of
displayed
so
that
people
can
understand
the
impact
of
the
decision
that
they're
making.
So
here's
the
trade-offs.
B
If
we
do,
you
know-
and
it's
sort
of
like
that-
that
that
session
that
we
had
was
like
accumulating
a
lot
of
this
information
from
many
different
points
of
view,
because
it
was
the
one
place
like
the
concentration
of
all
the
stewards
for
all
the
working
groups.
B
So
it
was
sort
of
like
an
opportunity
to
actually
get
input,
and
then
you
know
it
would
sort
of
be
like
the
next
logical
step
would
be
like
then,
for
somebody
to
write
up
the
here,
the
here's
the
case
for
postponing
here's
the
case
for
for
not
postponing
and
then
giving
it
to
the
community
to
decide
and
that
it
just
takes.
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
lot
of
work
to
to
prepare
a
community
for
a
decision.
B
Actually,
it's
just
what
I
want
to
say
whether
that's
24
hours
or
48
hours
or
72
hours.
I
don't
know
that
24
hours,
like
the
number
it's
like,
if
we
if
we
gave
the
the
community
24
hours
to
vote,
but
we
didn't
provide
them,
the
the
you
know
the
the
consequences
of
the
vote.
It's
a
waste
of
time
right.
So
it's
more
about
having
a
vote
and
information
so
that
people
can
make
informed
decisions
about
what
they're
choosing.
H
And
how
many
things
do
we
really
want
to
decide
by
vote?
You
know
like
I
feel
like
as
few
things
as
possible.
What
is
is
really
the
goal
there
should
in
an
ideal
world.
H
A
Yeah,
sorry,
just
a
quick
comment
on
that.
I
think
what
I'm
talking
about
is
mostly
like
not
for
voting,
because
I
mean
the
consent.
Space
is
kind
of
clear
when
we
vote
on
things,
because
there
is
a
structured
process
for
that,
but
where
we're
talking
about
advice
process
like
how
does
this
consent
build
builds
out?
And
how
do
do
people
feel
that
they
are
empowered
to
make
that
decision
and
to
include
the
feedback
that
is
received
and
that
people
feel
like
they
were
heard
when
they
give
that
feedback?
A
C
No,
I
was
just
you
know.
I
was
trying
to
explore
like
exactly
what
you
mean
by
the
consent
space,
because
you
know
the
the
when
it
comes
to
making
a
decision-
and
I
agree
with
mitch
with
that
that
decision
that
we
made
you
know
I
would
much
rather
have
a
24-hour
advice
process,
but
then
it's
like
when
you
have
a
decision
being
made,
and
you
have
somebody
who
is
very
adamant
about
you-
know
dissent
on
that
decision.
I
I
Sorry,
I
get
activated
every
time
I
think
about
things
that
I
care
about.
I
just
can't
help
it
thinking
about
boundaries.
I
think
I've
been
really
frustrated
lately,
because
I
know
that
culturally,
globally,
I
don't
believe
people
have
an
actual
understanding
of
what
boundaries
are
like.
As
the
word
like,
what
is
a
boundary,
what
are
boundaries?
What
are
my
boundaries?
What
do
boundaries
mean
and
then
I
see
people
designing
boundaries
and
I
don't
think
they
know
what
they
are.
So
that's
how
I
think
that
they
end
up
being
biased
and
harmful.
I
I
know
that
my
boundaries
are
things
that
I
set
for
myself,
like
my
boundary,
doesn't
really
have
anything
to
do
with,
like
any
of
you,
I
have
boundaries
for
myself,
that's
it
and
I
keep
seeing
people
design
boundaries
for
other
people
and
that's
not
how
boundaries
work.
That
would
be
what
parameters
might
be,
but
you'd
have
to
understand
boundaries
to
not
up
parameters.
I
It's
kind
of
like
it's
all
linguistics
and
I
like
see
the
ways
that
we
use
words
and
process
them
and
then
what
that
does-
and
I
I
like,
I
feel
so
untrusting
of
this
space
in
lots
of
spaces.
When
people
talk
about
boundaries,
I'm
like
yeah,
let's
talk
about
boundaries
and
consent,
but
let's
get
away
from
all
the
code
and
like
actually
talk
about
boundaries
and
consent
and
then
come
back
to
this
and
apply
the
same
principles
in
a
grounded
way
to
the
stuff
we're
doing
yeah.
I
H
I
I
don't
know
those
are
my.
Those
are
my
thoughts,
my
stuff's
going
to
be
really
hard
in
the
decolonization
aspect.
I
believe
a
lot
of
what
we
are
doing
is
recreating
the
same
patterns
and
things
that
never
served
us
in
the
first
place
we
just
surrendered
to,
because
we
didn't
have
better
words.
We
didn't
know
how
to
process
our
feelings
with
one
another.
D
So
how
do
we
translate
what
you're
saying
about
boundaries
into
maybe
a
different
way
of
thinking
about
it
like
permissions,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
can
consider
like
permissions,
like
authoritarianism
and
stuff
like
that,
but
also
like?
How
do
we
prevent
people
who
don't
care
about
what
we're
doing
from
totally
ruining
it.
I
Awareness,
I
think,
we're
moving
too
fast
in
general
as
a
culture
we
just
do.
We
like
look
at
the
clock,
think
about
the
weak,
tick,
tick,
tick,
tick,
tick,
and
if
we
did
all
this
right,
I
think
we'd
have
to
do
it
at
like
half
the
pace
at
least
and
it's
it's
like
people
give
away
their
ability
to
vote
to
somebody
else
because
they
don't
have
the
time
to
get.
You
know.
I
Be
capitalism
makes
it,
so
they
don't
have
time
to
become
aware
x,
y
and
z
doesn't
give
them
the
time
to
become
aware-
and
I
think
when
we
take
the
time
to
like
teach
other
people
and
keep
them
with
us,
I
mean
because
if
you
don't
that's
how
you
get
a
cult,
you
have
like
certain
people
who
know
things
and
they're
moving
around
if
everybody
else
doesn't
know
they're
just
following
it's
like
you
want
everybody
doing
stuff
like
if
everybody's
doing
the
same
thing,
then
it's
a
little
bit
better
than
most
folks,
just
following
everybody
doing
the
same
thing
like
where
power
comes
in.
I
I
have
a
a
friend
who
blew
my
mind
years
ago
and
helped
me
start
finding
out
that
I'm
autistic
and
unpacking
my
stuff
from
taking
a
class
on
consent.
It
just
blew
my
lid
off.
I
had
no
idea
what
consent
was.
I
had
no
clue
that
I
didn't
know
these
things.
I
thought
I
knew
all
these
words
and
what
they
meant,
and
then
I
took
this
class
and
it
changed
the
way
that
I
act
and
behave
and
think
and
how
I
act
around
other
people
and
with
other
people,
and
I
like
yeah.
A
We
can
definitely
open
space
to
have
a
session
on
that.
I
think
it's
really
yeah
aligned
with
with
also
having
boundaries
and
having
rules
I
mean
with
many
of
the
ostrom's
principles,
and
I
think
that's
what
inspired
to
think
about
this
is
just
like.
How
are
we
bringing
the
practicality
of
things
into
the
principles?
A
I
think
a
segue
to
also
how
do
we
implement
or
identify
these
things
is
just
understanding
what
to
do
when
boundaries
get
crossed.
A
I
think
that
is
a
big
part
of
like
building
these
rules,
like
you
were
saying
also
mitch,
like
okay,
if,
if
a
boundary
that
was
established
either
personally
or
in
a
group,
is
crossed
first,
how
to
identify
that
it
was
crossed.
So
that
means
that
we
have
to
have
very
clear
guidelines
or
some
type
of
like
feeling
check
and
and
make
and
bring
this
as
a
practice
and
then
understanding
what
is
the
sanction
for
when
that
boundary
is
crossed,
so
that
comes
into
the
graduated
sanctions
that
has
like
built
a
good
first
framework
for
it.
A
H
B
B
I
am
super
super
interested
wishes
on
any
guided
learnings.
We
can
have
on
consent,
so
I
hope
this.
This
does
turn
into
something
that
we
can
share
with
the
tec
community,
and
I
also
just
don't
want
to
let
that
one
thing
that
nate
said
slip
past.
I
don't
know
how
he's
imagining
it,
but
for
me
I
play
a
lot
of
card
games,
especially
with
my
kids
and
there's
always
like
that
wild
card
that
can
do.
B
I
feel,
like
this
sort
of
like
community
advice
process,
is
like
a
wild
card
and,
if,
like
we're,
not
feeling
sure
then
like
just
the
community
advice
process
card
could
be
something
that
we
play
as
like:
just
get
creating
some
space
in
some
time.
You
know-
and
maybe
it's
sort
of
like
this
24
hour.
Maybe
we
could
just
lock
onto
that
it's
as
a
number
for
to
have
any
number
before
we
sort
of
move
forward
with
an
important
decision
that
affects
the
community.
B
C
E
C
E
Of
going
too
fast,
that
aloysius
was
talking
about
there's
an
awful
lot
of
service
going
on
here
in
terms
of
actions
to
benefit
others,
but
at
the
same
time
you
know,
I
think
what
what
they
were
talking
about
was
that
do
I
have
the
capability
to
actually
benefit
from
that
action,
and
so
there
is
a
there
is
a
kind
of
consent
which
needs
to
happen
to
say
I'm
trying
to
do
this
thing
for
you
and
are
you
ready
to
accept
that?
Are
you
you
know?
E
There's
all
kinds
of
you
know
important
actions
that
and
understandings
that
take
place
in
terms
of
how
this
works
right
and
inside
of
this
consent
wheel.
You
know
we
have
to
think
that
if
I'm
doing
an
action
to
to
give
to
somebody,
this
person
has
to
be
willing
to
accept
that
from
me
and
if
what
if
they
aren't
right,
what
if
they're,
unprepared
or
they're
triggered
or
there's
some
other
thing
that's
happening
and
so
yeah.
That's
why
I
kind
of
shared
this.
I
think
with
libby
directly
and
there's
also
some
videos
about
that.
E
There's.
I
think
I've
shared
all
this
in
the
gravity
group
in
the
past,
but
it
might
actually
help
programmatically
if
we're
trying
to
come
up
with
some
idea
about
the
way
this
works
to
have
an
understanding
of
how
this
functions
and
see.
You
know
if
there's
any
way
for
us
to
do
an
evaluation
of
our
processes
to
see
where
they're
they
land
in
this.
So
I
was
just
going
to
make
that
suggestion.