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A
A
friend
of
mine
asked
to
have
a
one-time
session
and
I
do
therapy
and
it
was
like
okay,
thank
you
for
the
trust
and
it
will
so
beautiful
and
he
was
so
happy
yeah,
that's
inspiring
me.
He
really
liked
it.
That's
inspiring.
C
Well,
I
hate
you
so
I
am
I,
went
this
weekend
and
bought
some
stuff
for
my
for
my
room
of
like
a
new
bed
frame
and
a
bunch
of
stuff
and
so
I'm
I'm.
Now
just
moving
things
around
and
I
feel.
You
know,
I
feel
now,
with
a
very
sort
of
inspired,
feels
like
a
new
space
and
just
trying
to
just
trying
out
new
things,
new
setups,
pretty
much
that
what
about
YouTube.
D
I'm
trying
to
look
for
something
like
more
recent
than
than
if
Mexico,
but
that
was
just
like
very,
very
inspiring
to
see
just
and
I
I
I
feel
like
very
related
to
to
what
you're
currently
doing
living
because
because,
like
you
know
like
seeing
the
process
of
people
building
like
their
own
Solutions
I
feel
that
there
are
a
few
things
as
inspiring
as
that,
so
yeah
I
can
I
can
only
think
of
that.
I
mean
I
felt
inspired
by
by
other
stuff,
like
I've
listened
to
some
good
music
recently.
D
But
that
was
just
like
very
impressive
and
beautiful
to
see
so
so
yeah
I'm,
looking
forward
to
how
the
community
is
going
to
keep
growing.
B
Thank
you,
yeah
I
feel
that
too
I'm
still
very
inspired
by
everything.
I
saw
in
Kenya
I
just
left
there
yesterday.
So
it's
very
fresh
I
feel
like
it
would
take
me
a
few
days
to
process
everything,
but
it's
very
beautiful
to
see
communities
on
the
ground
using
some
of
the
technology
we've
been
building.
You
know
it
feels
rewarding.
B
Hi
durgitas
just
in
time
to
share
something
inspiring
that
happened
with
you
in
the
last
few
days.
E
E
Yeah
again,
I'm
gonna
need
a
moment
so
on
the
spot.
Let's
go
now.
B
B
The
idea
was
that
it
stays
there
for
at
least
five
days
up
to
two
weeks
and
then
you
can
either
mark
resolved.
If
you
don't
need
like
funds
or
if
it's
not
something
like
that,
will
affect
the
community
as
a
whole
or
you
can
move
to
other
conviction,
voting
or
snapshot.
But
I
think
this
is
not
communicated.
So
often
it's
not
like
an
automatic
process
for
people
and
yeah.
We
had
a
little
chat.
B
Auntie
mentioned
the
gnosis
process,
how
they
have
a
three-step
process
and
it's
a
little
more
clear
how
to
engage.
I
submitted
a
proposal
to
notice
before
and
yeah.
It
does
feel
very
clear
through
process.
Just
feels
long
kind
of
I,
don't
know
if
we
need
those
three
steps.
D
Oh
yeah
I
was
I
was
gonna,
say
that
a
conviction
boating
pretty
much
saves
us
like
one
of
the
three
steps
of
gnosis,
because
we
can
have
like
like
what
we
call
Advice
process
like
make
it
a
face,
so
that
people
have
like
a
clear
instruction
of
like
going
through
it.
So
our
first
phrase
can
be
like
Forum
off-chain
voting
in
phase
two
can
be
just
like
conviction,
so
so
yeah
I
I
really
like
that
idea
of
like
exploring
a
new
like
formal,
very
like
straightforward
process.
E
So
I
I
went
through
this
beautiful
training
called
the
ocap
training
and
it's
basically
a
information
management
for
for
for
First
Nations
and
the
principles
that
they
were
talking
about.
There
were
just
so,
you
know
like
a
lot
of
the
Constitutions
and
laws
that
we
have
in
various
countries,
including
Canada,
are
all
about
individual
freedoms,
but
there's
no
provision
in
there
for
Community
privacy
right
in
any
Western
legislation
really
anywhere,
including
Canada.
E
So
it's
really
interesting
to
see
when
an
entire
Community
wants
its
own
privacy
and
security
sort
of
handled
and
how
there
are
no
laws.
Basically
that
enforce
that.
So
this
is
like
a
division
between
you
know
the
colonize
and
the
pre-colonized
people.
So
it's
yeah
really
interesting
and
inspirational,
saying
that
I
feel
like
I
want
to
use
in
in
other
areas
for
Dallas,
especially.
B
B
Do
you
wanna,
do
you
want
to
give
a
shot?
We
were
past
the
intros,
but
Durga
does
had
an
inspiration,
so
you
can
share
yours
too.
B
Yeah,
so
the
a
more
formal,
straightforward
framework
for
governance,
I
think
I
think
from
the
noses
steps
that
we
could
cut
like
the
first
one,
I
think
what
we're
missing
is
a
more
clear
signal
in
the
Forum
that
that
proposal
should
go
to
conviction
voting
or
not,
or
do
we
even
want
to
have
that
process
or
is
like
or
after
five
days
you
submit
to
conviction
voting.
If
you
want
I
think
it's
interesting
to
have
a
signaling
there,
people
could
create
a
poll
and
then
that
part
that
feels.
B
C
Well,
I
think
we
do
want
to
have
a
process
because,
like
within
the
TC,
we
sort
of
know
how
to
deal
with
ourselves.
But
now
seeing
one
of
the
very
few
proposals
from
people
on
the
outside
and
I
haven't
chatted
with
them,
but
seems
to
me
like
they
maybe
just
lost
on
the
process.
C
You
know
we
probably
should
have
something
more
clear:
I,
don't
know,
maybe
a
pain,
a
post,
maybe
on
the
Forum
chatting
about
that,
describes
the
process
and
that
people
can
give
it
a
look
about
polling
and
dealers
and
sort
of
the
format.
I'm.
Pretty
sure
we
can
add
that
on
the
template
for
proposals
and
if
not
I,
wouldn't
worry
so
much
but
I
I
would
assume
people
that
come
here
to
make
a
serious
proposal
take
at
least
a
few.
C
A
few
seconds
to
you
know
probably
structure
it
in
other
quality,
University
and
or
maybe
something
complementary
to
that
is
having
someone
that
can
sort
of
look
at
the
proposals
like
again:
I'm
I'm,
referencing,
Moses
dog,
because
I
check
on
them
very
often,
but
they
have
I
think
expecting.
His
name
is
Josh
no
Panic
this
his
username.
Whenever
there's
a
proposal
with
an
import
format,
he
steps
in-
and
just
you
know,
hey,
please
add
this
this
and
that
whatever
and
we
can-
we
can
do
that
as
well.
B
Foreign
yeah
I
think
that's
a
good
point
to
have
a
specific
role
for
that.
Someone
should
always
take
a
look
at
the
proposals
that
are
coming.
It
feels
difficult
now
because
we
don't
have
so
much
of
a
flux
and
then
I
think
there's
this
dilemma
of
yeah.
How
much
are
we
incentivizing
people
to
submit
proposals?
F
Do
you
mean,
are
we
going
out
and
trying
to
find
people
to
submit
or
or
do
you
mean,
are
we
actively
trying
to
encourage
or
discourage
proposals
right
now.
B
Yeah,
that's
what
he
feels
unclear,
because
enter
was
suggesting
that
we
had
a
specific
role
like
someone
to
check.
All
the
proposals
to
you
know
see
if
there's
something
missing
like
an
admin
off
the
governance
process,
kind
of,
but.
A
B
F
Yeah
I
I
agree.
We
should
clarify
that
I
think
I
think
we
have
a
couple
of
realities,
which
is
one
it's
getting
a
lot
harder
to
fund
to
pass
proposals
like
that's
just
true.
You
know,
like
large
proposals,
are
getting
a
lot
harder
to
pass
just
because
of
the
way
conviction
voting
Works
with
with
less
money
in
it
and
then
there's
the
kind
of
like
the
more
honest
question
that
I
think
we
all
have
to
answer
as
a
community
is
like
it
does
feel
like
we're.
F
You
know:
we've
put
the
brakes
on
the
a
lot
of
the
working
groups
in
terms
of
spending,
and
so
you
know
are
we
doing
the
same?
For
you
know,
proposals
from
outside
the
community
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
I
I
personally
think
that
I
mean
this
is
my
personal
view.
Is
that
until
we
can
turn
things
around
I
think
we
should
fund,
but
I
think
it
should
be
just
like
really
really
good
proposals
like
I
think
our
bar
has
to
go
up
at
this.
That's
my
sense.
D
Oh
I
just
made
a
quick
note
in
the
in
the
chat
Livy.
Do
you
remember
how
much
tokenomics
they
always
would
be
requesting
for
this
guide?
12K.
D
Okay,
because
I
I
mean
I,
feel
that
yeah
it
wouldn't
be
I,
don't
feel
that
it
would
be
like
a
bad
idea
to
pick
up
on
on
on
that.
Maybe
it's
something
that
I
could
even
handle
and
and
I
mean.
Of
course,
we
would
have
to
go
through
like
an
advice
process
to
see
if
it's
the
right
thing,
but
I
could
see
that
happening
with
like
at
least
like
a
part
of
of
like
the
marketing
funding.
D
Maybe
it
would
be
like
a
nice
opportunity
because
of
the
exposure
that
this
would
give
us
so
at
least
like
partially.
Maybe
it
could
be
funded
with
the
marketing
expenses
before
taking
the
risk
back
to
the
to
the
common
pool,
as
as,
as
we
spoke
yesterday,
and
maybe
that
could
lower
the
amount
that
conviction
voting
will
require
to
make
it
happen.
D
Just
thinking
around
how
we
can
just
like
activate
this
in
in,
like
keep
the
proposal
funding
going
on
without
sacrificing
like
significant
amounts
of
of
what's
left
in
in
the
common
pool,
so
so
yeah
those
my
two
cents
in
the
matter.
Yeah.
G
I
just
want
to
learn
something
and
I
think
actually,
like
you
know,
the
proposal
is
very
token
engineer,
which
is
great
and
I
also
play
with
Gideon
like
it's
important
to
see.
You
know
like
make
sure,
like
the
proposal,
like
you
know,
make
sure
like
the
team
behind
the
proposal
is
trusted
and
he's
going
to
deliver
a
great
product,
but.
G
12K
for
like
a
good
guide
for
economics,
I
think
it's
cheap
and
I.
Think
it's
very
great
for
the
TC,
like
I,
really
think
that
as
a
public
good,
like
everyone
can
use
when
they're,
creating
tokens
and
I
mean
people
is
coming
to
the
TC
asking
for
that.
Actually
so
I
think
it's
a
win-win,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
like
the
team
behind
is
going
to
deliver
because
otherwise
it's
like
wasting
money,
but
if
they
deliver
a
great
product,
12K
I
I
personally
would
work
for
that.
C
I
think
for
I
think
what
the
Gideon
said
is
very
true
about
the
bar
going
up
and
I
also
think
we
we
may
be
in
the
position
of
finding
alternative
routes
to
collaborate.
It's
like
just
in
in
a
very
brief
moment
in
this
of
the
channel.
We
we
connected
the
dots
between
the
creation
service
and
their
work
and
so
like.
C
What
would
what
I
would
love
to
see
happening
from
now
on
is
a
more
a
cleaner
governance
structure
with
a
higher
bar
to
request
funds,
but
also
we
should
be
more
aware
of
what
can
we
do
for
for
proposals
that
may
not
cut
it
financially
and
I?
Don't
know,
there's
plenty
of
stuff
we
can
do
like
for
the
talk
economics,
though
we're
thinking
about
interest
group,
but
12K
isn't
also
that
that
much
money,
maybe
there's
some
other
ways.
C
We
can
support
them
in
co-writing,
a
proposal
for
other
bigger
dials
that
have
more
spending
for
that,
and
you
know
just
just
putting
ourselves
in
the
position
where
we
help
them
in
any
way
possible,
because
I
think
the
proposal
is
great.
Do
we
have
the
money
to
spend
I
don't
know,
but
if
we
haven't,
we
I
would
be
able
to
chat
with
them
and
see.
How
can
we
source
that
money
from
other
places,
I
don't
know.
G
G
I
still
like
thinking
the
same
like
if
we
have
like
talk
with
the
team,
like
maybe
like
show
up
some
previous
work
or
something
then
I
don't
know
like
I
mean
I
was
just
like
what
I
I
feel
like
saying
like
what
you
said
before
Levy
they
make
the
phone
post,
but
they
didn't
go
to
conviction.
Voting
like
I
feel
like
people
would
you
know,
Community
would
decide
something
and
conviction
about
them,
but
in
a
foreign
post,
without
any
advice
process
like
I
mean
the
natural
next
step
is
just
posted.
F
I
think
that
one
other
thing
I
mentioned
this
in
the
text
chat
for
soft
God
but
and
I-
know
Libby
you're
concerned
about
putting
conditions
around
funding.
F
Tokenomics
could
be
a
great
category
for
our
curation
and
it
could
be
that
this
idea
of
interest
groups
like
we
could
create
an
interest
group
here
in
the
server
that's
focused
on
tokenomics
and
I.
Think
you
know
maybe
there's
a
way
of
going
back
to
them
and
saying
like
hey,
you
know,
maybe
we
add
a
little
bit
more.
F
If
12K
is
what
you
need
to
do,
the
this
publication,
you
know-
maybe
it's
like
add
another
2K,
and
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
integrate
it
into
the
work
that
we're
doing
here
and
I
guess
the
reason
the
reason
I'm
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is:
how
do
we
support
public
goods
and
also
simultaneously
capacity,
build
the
commons
right
because
I
think
the
days
where,
like
we
need
to
stop
thinking
about
I
mean
this
is
just
my
view,
but
I
think.
Sometimes
we
fall
into
this
kind
of
sense
of
shame.
F
In
asking
people
to
contribute
to
the
commons
like
that,
if
we
ask
them
to
do
something
that
not
only
supports
their
project
but
then
actually
supports
the
commons
that
we're
asking
them
to
kind
of
like
give
up,
you
know
and
being
extractive,
but
if
the
commons
is
truly
owned
by
them.
Also,
you
know
like
and
it's
open
and
they
can
own
it
and
if
they
contribute,
then
they
own
even
more
like
that's
something
I
think
is
great.
H
I
I
also
want
to
give
another
idea
and
it's
that
projects
should
not
or
can
not
aim
for
the
hundred
percent
of
the
of
the
funding
from
the
TC
and
that
what
I
am
seeing
and
the
mission
that
I
have
right
now
is
that
the
web
3
space
is
very
liquid
and
that
there's
always
grants
happening.
There's
always
a
lot
of
ways
for
projects
to
receive
funding.
H
So
we
I
think
that
between
our
services
to
the
projects
that
want
to
be
funded
by
the
TC,
we
should
also
help
them
to
look
for
multiple
funding
streams.
So
not
only
like
hey
come
to
the
TC
and
we
will
fund
the
100
of
your
project,
but
we
will
teach
you
how
to
fish
in
the
sea.
H
We
will
not
prepare
you,
the
all
the
food
and
give
you
all
the
fish
you
want,
but
we
will
teach
you
how
to
how
to
go
there
and
fish
and
participate
in
Grants
and
get
relationship
with
other
projects
and
like
using
the
proportional
inverter
until
certain
degree,
if,
if
the
project
is
fit
for
that
or
having
a
giveth
a
project
or
a
git
coin,
Grant
all
that
and
not
only
having
one
mod
one
funding
stream.
That's
my
idea.
H
B
I
didn't
want
to
create
I,
wasn't
afraid
to
create
I.
Don't
remember
now
what
you
said
but
block
blocks
on
the
funding.
It's
not
about
that.
I
I
think
it's
great
to
include
them
in
the
curation
service.
I
just
feel
like,
sometimes
by
including
projects
into
bigger
projects.
Things
get
stagnant
and
don't
go
anywhere.
You
know
like,
oh,
instead
of
doing
this,
let's
collaborate
on
this
huge
idea
that
has
so
many
people
involved
and
then
requires
so
much
coordination
and
sometimes
the
drop
balls
on
the
way
like.
F
Yeah
I
see
what
you're
saying
I
I
think
it's
just.
It
could
be
just
as
simple
as
like
a
quick
conversation
that
says
like
oh
hey,
we've
got
this
going
on
and
you
know
and
don't
and
don't
connect
them
don't
say
like,
and
if
you
don't
do
this,
like
there's
no
funding
for
you
see,
you
know
it's
like
it's
not
like
that,
but
it's
like
hey
yeah,
let's
and
actually
I
really
like
the
idea
that,
like
Wonka's
idea
and
NT
you're
going
the
same
direction
of
like
you
know,
can
we
help
you?
F
Can
we
play
almost
like
bitcoin's
role
of
matching?
You
know
like?
Can
we
be
a
facilitator
to
kind
of
like
help
bring
people
together,
so
I
guess
I'm
I'm
going
in
two
directions?
At
the
same
time,
one
is,
let's
figure
out
how
to
build
a
partnership
here
right
with
these
folks.
That's
like
that's
deep.
F
F
I
I
dropped
a
note
to
Maddie
just
to
say,
like
hey,
I
I,
just
wanted
to
talk
to
him
about
the
curation
service,
because
actually
Auntie
brought
up
last
night.
The
idea
of
doing
tokenomics
is
one
of
the
categories,
so
I
think
that's
one
thing
to
just
kind
of
like
do
an
informal
or
it
could
be,
could
be
somebody
else,
but
somebody
could
just
reach
out
to
him
and
and
just
kind
of
like
get
a
feel
for
what
it
is.
I
guess.
C
Yeah
I
think
the
the
most
immediate
optional
item
is
just
chat
with
them.
They'll
see
where
they
are
at
in.
Where
could
we
add
value?
And
so,
like
I,
don't
know,
maybe
like
in
the
case
of
the
of
the
guide?
C
They
are
looking
for
money
to
do
research,
maybe
the
creation
service,
those
that
we
search
cheaper
and
so
maybe,
while
they,
while
they're
using
a
service,
we're
building,
we
are
able
to
bring
post
out
posts
down,
and
that
becomes
more
easy
for
us
to
follow,
for
example
and
stuff
like
that,
because
just
you
see
where
they
are
at
and
also
because
it
it
has
already
been
like
a
month
of
The
Proposal.
So
maybe
they
erupted
off.
C
Maybe
they
already
found
the
money
elsewhere
or
something
and
then
that's
that's
for
the
proposal
for
I
would
be
really
interested
in
getting
in
touch
for
like
a
more
long-term
Partnerships
for
like
I,
don't
know,
I,
think
the
interest
group
with
tokenomics
would
be
really
great
because
you
know
to
economics
is
like
like
a
very
buzzword
in
the
space
in
the
talking
during
space
oftentimes,
confusing
okay
engineering
with
stock
economics.
C
They
are,
they
have
a
bunch
of
content,
they
have
a
lot
of
contributors,
and
so
maybe
we
facilitate
interest
group
and
they
have
the
people
doing
the
knowledge-
and
you
know-
that's
I
I,
see
that
as
a
very
nice
partnership
between
both
organizations
that
helped
that
you
know
they,
we
help
them
build
to
economics,
knowledge
and
they
help
us
become
the
shelling
point
of
of
the
talking
eating
food.
B
F
Is
they
reached
out
before
and
were
totally
game
to
like
come
by
and
do
sessions
for
for
us
for
the
T
for
the
TC
to
like
run
sessions
to
like
walk
people
through
tokenomic,
design
and
stuff,
like
that,
so
I
mean
this
would
just
be
following
up
on
an
idea
that
they
raised
like
four
or
five
months
ago,
like
just
do
that
in
our
server
and
just
now
now
we
have
we're
starting
to
have
kind
of
like
a
structure,
maybe
for
doing
that.
With
this
interest
group
idea.
B
Oh
yeah
I'm
curious
to
see
where
they're
at
with
that,
because
I
propose
that
to
them
like,
but
back
then
and
then
I
don't
know.
There
was
a
few
talks
of
things
they
were
hosting
on
Twitter
and
there's
a
difficulty
in
time
zone
too
they're,
mostly
based
in
Australia,
but
I-
think
it's
good
to
have
other
time
zones
popping
up
in
the
TC
sounds
great.
B
A
I
I
would
like
to
add
something:
I'm
I
went
in
to
look
at
the
start
of
the
guide
that
they
have
online
and
I
I
was
thinking
about.
Is
it
possible
or
if
it's
okay,
to
ask
for
them
to
put
in
a
chapter
about
the
comments
in
children,
tokenomics.
B
But
I
think
if
you,
if
you
sent
that
on
the
Forum,
that
would
be
awesome.
You
didn't.
A
Foreign
I
want
to
ask
something
about
the
framework
for
proposals
and
because
just
having
the
manual
with
like
it,
it's
it's
more
useful
to
have
something
more
Dynamic
like
like
this
part
of
the
role.
But
could
it
be
something
automated
like
the
proposal
common
scenes
and
it
pops
on
itself
or
or
should
it
be
a
person.
C
Yeah
I
was
I
was
going
to
just
ask
on
sort
of
actions
on
the
overall
governance
process
and
on
that
point
about
having
someone
sort
of
take
care
of
that
I
think
I
think
what's
more
important
is
to
Define
sort
of
the
role
or
the
necessity
and
then
I'm
pretty
sure.
We
ourselves
every
like
I,
checked
the
phone
a
few
times
a
week
and
if
I
see
something
when
I
knows
what
are
the
guidelines?
I
can
drop
a
message.
C
C
C
Yeah
I
guess
depends
on
how
formal
we
want
to
do
it
like
I'm,
more
worried
about
with
having
three
instructions,
because
after
we
have
them,
we
can
like
any
of
us
can
go
ahead
and
look
at
the
phone
like
how
how
many
proposals
do
we
receive
a
month?
Probably
one
a
must
or
one
or
two
and
so
I,
don't
think
we
have
to
I,
don't
think
we
have
to
carry
on
on
just
operating
a
group
of
people
formally
dedicated
to
that.
C
But
if
there's
Clarity
around
that
any
of
us
can
go
ahead:
post,
hey
Kate,
I,
don't
know:
hey
Maddie,
so
I
noticed
this
this,
and
this
is
not
clear
on
your
proposal.
You
need
this
this
and
this
because
this
in
a
link
to
the
handbook,
for
example,
but
right
now,
I
can
I
can
link
the
handbook
and
we
are
both
going
to
be
at
the
same
point
anyway.
So
foreign.
G
To
the
to
the
conversation,
there
I
think
that
if
we,
if
we
are
already
exploring
this
idea
of
like
radical
simplification
within
the
TC
and
the
Discord
server,
might
be
also
a
good
idea
to
see
how
how
that
could
play
out
in
the
Forum
as
it
currently
is.
You
know
like
revisit
the
categories
like
guidelines.
G
C
Very
quickly,
I'm,
just
looking
at
the
nurses
that
forum
and
seems
like
you
can
have
the
poll
on
the
template
and
so
I
guess,
that's
initially
less.
We
have
to
care
about.
B
Yeah
I
think
those
are
two
simple
things
we
could
do.
Maybe
add
the
pole
at
the
pulse
with
template
and
have
just
a
more
clear
advice
process.
We
could
use
something
I,
don't
know
how
much
is
a
good
parameter
for
like
how
many?
What
is
the
percentage
of
people
that
have
to
vote,
because
the
poll
in
the
Forum
is
like
one
people,
one
person,
one
vote
kind
of
thing,
so
how
many
people
need
to
vote
for
that
proposal
to
pass
to
the
other
face?
F
You
know
one
thing
here:
here's
I'm
gonna
flip
it
a
little
bit
just
to
play.
Devil's
Advocate,
you
know
I,
think
there's
kind
of
this
sense
of
guilt
that
we
all
have
a
little
bit
like.
Oh
we're,
not
funding
enough,
and
you
know
what
are
we
even
doing
if
we're
not
funding
and
we've
got
to
be
driving
this
stuff
and
we've
it's
up
to
us
to
drive
the
engagement.
F
You
know
we're
constantly
like
feeling
like
we've
got
to
like
push
these
proposals
forward.
But
what,
if
you
know
part
of
what
we're
doing
is
we're
saying
you
know
it's
really
up
to
you
as
the
proposal.
You
know
as
the
proposer
of
a
of
a
proposal
that
you
know.
If
you
really
want
this
thing
to
succeed,
you
need
to
build
your
own
engagement
within
the
community
right
and
like
so
a
vote
like
that.
F
I
think
actually
I
think
having
something
like
that
that
voting
thing
there
is
kind
of
good
right,
because
it's
a
signal
of
how
broad
the
support
is
I
mean
people
can
hurt.
You
know
they
can
like
it.
So
that's
also
good
but
like
having
a
vote.
Thing
is
I,
think
it's
a
good
is
a
nice
kind
of
initial
thing
and
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
that
you
know
we
shouldn't
feel
bad
about
asking
that
people
who
come
for
funding
in
in
the
Commons
are
active
in
the
comments
right
like
I.
F
Don't
think
that
that's
bad
I
think
it's
really
good.
You
know
I
think
building
that
sense
of
ownership
where
somebody
comes
here
and
they
feel
like
I.
You
know
it's
not
just
I'm
gonna
come
here,
ask
for
money
and
then
get
the
heck
out
like
that's
bad.
We
want
people
who
are
going
to
come.
Ask
for
funding,
contribute
back,
stick
around
and
and
get
engaged
so
where
I'm
going
with.
That
is
I.
Think
if
we
had
some
tips
and
tricks
for
like
how
do
you
build
organic
support
for
a
proposal?
F
F
Yeah
I'm
not
sure
what
it
would
look
like
exactly,
but
it's
like
I
guess
the
bigger
picture
is
rather
than
us
feeling
bad
when
things
just
sit
on
the
server
and
are
not
getting
a
lot
of
attention,
it's
like
you
know,
helping
the
people
who
are
proposing
to
understand
what
they
can
do
in
order
to
generate
excitement
around
a
proposal
and
if
they're,
not
you
know,
if
it's,
if
they're
not
generating
that
excitement,
then
it's
not
going
to
pass.
Probably.
E
So,
from
my
perspective,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
the
preponderance
of
platforms
so
needing
to
go
to
one
place
for
a
forum
go
to
another
place
for
voting.
Go
to
another
another.
You
know
having
a
dashboard,
that's
specific
to
me
to
try
to
know.
What's
kind
of
you
know
when
I
log
into
this
one
place
rather
than
log
into
the
five
or
six
different
places.
You
know,
every
single
platform
loses
those
people.
Every
single
platform
loses
people
loses.
This
engagement
loses
us,
you
know
so
I.
E
Just
you
know,
I
mean
our
insistence
on
using
GitHub,
which
UI
and
ux
is
awful.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
that's
not
going
to
engage
people
either
so
that
we
just
have
a
lot
of
UI
ux
issues
to
be
honest
and
when
I'm,
when
I'm
you
know,
so
this
is
actually
a
design,
a
conscious
design
choice
that
we're
making
in
the
gravity
areas
to
try
to
do
it
so
that
every
single
thing
you
ever
do
all
you
have
to
do
is
go
to
one
place.
You
go
to
the
website
and
that's
it.
E
You
know
and
I'm
going
so
far
as
to
try
to
make
a
dashboard
for
web
3
for
people
so
when
they
log
in
they
can
see
what's
going
on
with
the
different
things
they're
participating
in
and
so
I
I'm,
not
sure
we
have
a
lot
of
really
smart
people
here,
I'm,
not
sure
why
we
sort
of
fall
for
the
same
problem,
but
I
will
just
point
out.
It
is
a
long-standing
problem
and
you
know
very
very
much
the
case.
E
So
I
don't
know
I'm
I
don't
want
to
sound
critical,
but
we
just
have
a
you
know.
We
definitely
have
too
many
platforms
and
too
many
places
to
go
to
track
the
progress
of
any
one
thing.
So
literally
everything
you
guys
are
talking
about.
You
have
to
go
to
two
three
four
places
to
figure
out
the
chain
of,
and
that's
just
not
good.
So
that's
just
my
perspective.
Thanks.
G
Yeah
I
I
also
agree.
We
do
get
us
on
that
and
maybe
I
think
ideally
would
be
good
to
reach
to
a
point
where
we
have
a
dashboard
and
just
one
place
where
we
can
do
everything,
but
maybe
in
the
in
the
meantime,
I've
always
wonder
if
it's
like
technical
possible,
just
for
example,
to
have
when
there's
a
proposal
submitted
in
the
Forum
just
for
it
to
be
reflected
on
the
Discord
Channel.
G
If
we
had
like
a
channel
that
is
like
proposals
from
The,
Forum
or
I,
don't
know
and
like
about
just
sends
them
over
there
and
people,
then
we
can
have
like
all
the
conversation
and
all
that,
maybe
even
the
voting
like
the
poll
and
all
that
within
the
Discord
and
try
try
to
make
this
score
kind
of,
like
the
the
main,
the
central
point
for
for
all
of
these
efforts.
In
the
meantime,
we
find
better
ways
to
use
them.
F
That
would
be
a
good
use
case
for
the
token
holder,
the
token
gate,
because,
like
you
know,
if
you're
a
token
holder,
then
you
would
get
notified
if
there's
a
new
proposal
up.
It's
interesting.
B
Even
if
that
tag
was
token
holders,
I
don't
know
if,
like
it's
so
polluted
a
Discord
already
for
a
notification
to
reach
anyone,
maybe
that
notification
could
be
somewhere
else.
I,
don't
know
some
type
of
email,
pop-up
kind
of
like
when
you're
creating
a
calendar,
invite
you
know
it
goes
to
the
person
and
then
they
can
take
action
immediately
from
that
point,
if
there
was
like
a
way
to
send
an
email,
whenever
a
proposal
is
up
and
then
people
can
like
access
the
link
already
from
there
or
something.
G
I
think
I
think
with
that
I
don't
know,
I
think
we
would
be
kind
of
like
pulling
kind
of
like
you
know,
similar
scenario,
because
we
would
have
to
go
to
our
email
and
check
our
email
to
go
to
the
to
the
proposal
and
just
like
in
in
this
effort
of
trying
to
bring
everything
to
the
Discord
server.
I.
G
Think
that
token
holder
idea
would
be
interesting
and
in
terms
of
the
notifications,
maybe
instead
of
tagging
people
for
them
to
see
the
the
posts
I
mean
people
can
just
go
there
whenever
they
want
to,
but
instead
of
going
to
The
Forum,
they
can
just
go
into
this
specific
Channel
and
turn
on
the
notifications
of
that
specific
Channel
if
they,
if
they
want
to
and
if
not,
they
can
just
like
disable
them,
and
that
shouldn't
be
a
problem.
I
think.
I
I
think
we
we
shouldn't
over,
complicate
things
because
I
mean
I
I,
agree
100
with
your
get
us,
but
this
doesn't
seem
to
be
like
an
impediment
for
any
other
Dow.
So
my
point
is:
first:
oh
I,
don't
think
we
have
to
do
anything
is
potential
about
the
platforms
for
now.
Hopefully
there
comes
a
time
where
we
can
sort
of
have
have
everything
in
one
place,
but
that
time
hasn't
come
yet.
Okay,
but
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
be.
I
If
you
want
the
money,
the
list
you
can
do
is
to
be
engaged
in
The
Proposal
processes
in
the
community.
That's
one
thing.
The
other
thing
is
that
feels
I
feel
like
we
tend
to
try
to
solve
everything
with
technology,
but
I
I'm
like
90
sure
that
a
lot
of
the
engagement
issues
is
more
on
our
culture
or
Community
side,
like
other
things,
are
changing.
I
We
aren't
necessarily
giving
the
ride.
People
don't
see
ourselves
the
way.
We
hope
that
we
see
us,
and
so
it's
it's
honestly
hard
to
engage
with
us
if
you're,
not
in
the
book,
like
I,
don't
know
on.
On
the
permission,
service,
we've
talked
a
lot
about
how
our
Communications
and
some
of
the
stuff.
We
do
isn't
really
that
in
line
with
talking
and
getting
so.
Why
would
the
talking
engineer
be
engaged
and
that's
something
that
won't
be
fixed
with
technology,
but
rather
with
how
we
just
do
things
ourselves,
foreign.
B
Pin
a
post
when
clear
instructions
about
governance
in
the
Forum
having
someone
that
can
look
at
the
proposals,
like
maybe
creating
some
type
of
role,
temporary
role,
that
people
could
jump
into,
clarify
narrative
around
funding
proposals,
perhaps
creating
a
different
template
for
the
proposals,
so
the
bar
of
quality
goes
up,
simplifying
the
form
and
understanding
ways
to
engaging
with
stakeholders.
B
F
I
mean
I
would
I'm
excited
Enough
by
the
thing
that
Walker
was
talking
about
that
I
I
would
be
well
I.
Okay,
I
think
that
we
are
running
out
of
funds
like
we
have
to
be
careful
about
how
we
spend.
So
that's
why
I
was
saying
the
bar
needs
to
go
up,
but
I
think
that
that's
a
very
creative
way
of
looking
at
it
is
like
how
do
we
you
know
almost
like
Bitcoin
like
how
can
we
help
other
people
to
bring
funds
and
we
match
it
maybe
or
like?
Maybe
in
a
template.
F
We
say,
like
you
know
your
your
chances
of
funding
go
up
if
we're
not
covering
the
full
cost
of
the
project.
So
please
list
your
other
I.
Don't
know
that
I
don't
want
to
like
try
to
solve
the
problem
here,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
conversation
that
would
be
worth
having
to
just
see
how
we
might
maybe
in
stewards
or
something
like
that,
how
we
could
actually
encourage
our
funding
to
just
be
a
portion
of
the
total
amount
that
is
being
given
for
a
project.
B
A
I
would
like
to
say
that
what
Gideon
said
about
this
make
making
this
feel
like
the
comments
like
not
coming
just
for
money
and
gone.
It's
like
a
welcome
you're
now
part
of
the
commons,
and
what
does
that
mean?
What
does
that
implies?
So
I
really
think
that
that
is
really
interested,
so
I
wouldn't
put
it
aside
and
and
think
about
only
one
place,
it's
it's
Discord
in
the
meantime,
and
afterwards
a
single
platform
when
we
can
do
it.
A
That
sounds
like
really
important
too,
because
it's
kind
of
too
many
places
to
go.
I
Yeah
I
think
also
for
the
for
the
clarifying
The
Narrative
and
the
other
one
just
about
cleaning
up
the
governance
process.
We
can
do
that
in
the
upcoming
software
up
sessions.
If
you
don't
have
anything
else
more
important,
those
would
be
nice
to
you
know
to
do
in
a
group.
B
G
Yeah
yeah
I
mean
I,
I
wouldn't
be
I,
don't
want
to
commit
to
to
something
well
specifically
because
yes,
I
I,
there's
like
this
feeling
of
many
things
happening
at
the
same
time,
and
many
important
and
relevant
things
that
are
coming
up
and
you
know
like
I,
feel
we
we
need
to
prioritize.
Also
I'm,
not
saying
this
is
not
important.
On
the
contrary,
I
think
it's
really
important,
but
it's
it's
really
interesting
on.
How
do
we
actually
organize
ourselves
into
making
use
these
ideas?
G
Not
just
stay
there
and
and
actually
put
concrete
action
into
them?
I
mean
I,
don't
have
the
answer
now.
Yes,
it's
just
like
this
feeling
of
of
not
overwhelming
but
yeah
lots
of
things,
lots
of
things
happening
and
I,
I
and
I
know
that
you,
you
see
that
you
see
that
as
well,
and
you
feel
that
as
well
and
and
I
wish
I
could
like
help
not
just
you,
but
like
these
efforts,
you
know
more
clear
way,
but
I
think
it's
it's
a
little
diffused
right
now.