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B
Thank
you,
septi
intentions.
For
today
I
wanted
to
sync
to
see
if
it's,
if
there's
any
way,
we
both
comes
and
transparency
can
support
nate
with
figuring
out
credentials
in
hubspot,
and
I
guess
I
have
no
distractions
today.
My
my
dog
is
being
playful
really
early,
but
I
don't
think
probably
he'll
fall
asleep
at
some
point.
C
Thanks
julie,
my
intentions:
my
main
intention
today
is
to
discuss
on
how
we
can
be
more
transparent
with
the
processes
like
what
name,
and
that
being
mentioned
in
the
channel
in
our
chat,
transparency
chat.
So
is
the
main
thing
that
I
want
to
talk
about,
and
my
distraction
is
my
bad
connection,
because
I
moved
to
a
new
room
in
the
same
hotel
and
the
connection
is
seriously
that.
So
that's
just
my
distraction.
D
Hey:
what's
up
septi,
what's
up
evie,
what's
up
chewie,
sorry,
what
do
you
say
you
were?
You
were
doing.
D
Yeah
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
I've,
been
sent
for
for
a
couple
weeks,
but
now
that
the
hatch
begins,
I
I
want
to
you
know
see
well
in
the
comms
group,
not
that
much
but
in
other
groups.
Yes,
so
now
that
has
begins.
I
wanna
see
if
I
can
be
more
active
for
all
this
month.
I
wanna
I
had.
I
had
a
question:
what
are
the
the
coins
that
we're
gonna
accept?
D
I
mean
I
know
it's
die
ether
bitcoin,
like
am
I
missing
like
true
usd,
maybe
a
steel
coin
like
which
ones
I
I
need.
I
need
to
get
the
logos
for.
A
Do
you
mean
for
the
hatch
man
yeah?
Maybe
two
can
you
that's
the
question.
B
Yeah,
maybe
maybe
both
both
the
hatch
dial
and
the
comments
upgrade,
are
gonna
utilize
only
x
die
so
or
or
wrapped
eggs
die.
So
I
would
try
to
cover
cover
it
as
as
x-die,
however,
like
if
you
need
like
some
like
like
graphic
like
association
or
something
yeah,
I
I
think
die.
B
That
would
be
the
way
to
go,
because
sorry
about
that,
most
most
of
the
other
stable
coins
are
backed
by
physical
us
dollars
or
something
like
that
and
which
is
like
the
benefit
of
that
like
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
us
dollars,
yeah
and
well.
It
uses
usdc
as
a
collateral,
but
I'm
not
gonna
get
into
that,
but
but
yeah
like.
If,
if
I,
if
I'm
helping
you
it's
just
wrap
text
by
or
xbox,
however,
you
wanna
put
it
okay
got
it
thanks.
A
Yeah
but
just
I
wasn't
was
going
to
say
like
it's
rapid
excite,
but
it's
it's
almost
the
same.
You
know
on
on
honeysuck,
you
can
just
wrap
it
and
it
was
0.0001
so
yeah
just
that
yeah,
starting
with
the
topics.
Maybe
do
you
want
to
present
the
first
one?
I
think,
since
we
already
were
talking
about
this
one
that
see
in
our
process
for
proposal,
submissions.
C
Yeah
I
just
want
to
give
a
brief
background
where
this
issue
came
from.
So
I
think
that
was
last
week
when
shebim
sent
a
message
in
our
chat
that
maybe
we
can
improve
on
the
transparency
of
our
processes,
because
there's
someone
who
wanted
to
submit
a
proposal
but
there's
no,
they
didn't
find
the
the
right
process
for
the
proposal
submission.
So
I
tried
actually
looking
for
that
process
and
it
took
me
also
a
while
to
find
the
proposal
submission
process.
C
So
that's
like,
and
then
I
realized
that
yeah,
maybe
we're
not
being
transparent
enough,
because
I
myself
took
a
while
to
find
it
in
the
forum.
But
I
found
it
though
so
we
have
the
process,
but
we
are
not
very
transparent
enough
with
not
we
are
transparent,
but
maybe
we
are
not
putting
that
post
in
a
strategic
section
in
the
forum
in
their
forum
so
yeah,
I
don't
know
where
we
should
put
those
processes,
so
everybody
can
easily
find
them
when
they
want
to
yeah.
C
So
my
suggestion
is
first,
let's
list
all
the
processes
that
we
have
okay
and
then
let's
decide
on
where
this
process
should
be
so
everybody
in
the
community
can
easily
find
them
so
yeah.
That's
it.
A
B
B
A
C
We
already
have
an
existing
process
and
I'm
sure
for
other
other
things
that
we
have
to
make
a
decision
on.
We
already
have
a
lot
of
existing
processes,
but
the
thing
is
it's
hard
to
find
them
in
the
forum.
So
maybe
we
can
have
like
a
one
category
or
just
gather
all
the
processes
there
like.
We
have
this
category
for
audit
and
then,
when
they
go
to
this
audit
category,
they
will
see
all
the
audits
that
have
been
posted
in
the
forum.
C
So
maybe
we
can
also
create
like
this
category
in
the
forum
where
we
gather
all
the
processes
so
like,
like
a
directory
where
the
community
members
can
easily
find
our
process
so
sep-
and
I
were
talking
earlier
that
maybe
we
can
maybe
we
should
also
put
those
process
on
git
book
because
that's
the
first
place
I
went
to
when
I
saw
schreibner's
messages,
a
message
I
went
to
gitbook
and
I
looked
for
the
process,
but
the
process
there
we
just
defined
what
the
process
is
for,
but
the
detailed
process
wasn't
there
in
the
git
box
so
yeah.
C
It
took
me
a
while
to
find
this
for
to
find
jess
jessica's
post
in
the
forum,
so
it
would
be
great
if
we
can
just
create
like
a
a
category.
I
don't
know
in
the
forum
or
where
else
that
this
the
existing
process
should
be
for
easy
access.
That's
all.
A
Yeah,
I
think
what
do
you
think
about
on
the
advice
process?
We
pin
that
message
of
the
proposals
and
then
maybe
we
just
add,
as
you
were
saying,
before
a
place
on
the
gate,
but
where
we
have
all
our
processes.
B
I
agree
with
the
git
book.
It's
also
gonna
start
being
very
useful,
also
like
taking
an
account
the
the
the
hatch
handbook
and
all
of
these,
like
supporting
materials
that
are
going
to
be
starting
to
be
around
a
lot
in
the
next
weeks.
I
think
git
book
git
book
should
be
should
be
a
a
valid
option.
A
C
A
B
Okay,
do
you
guys
think
it's
a
good
idea
if
I
include
it
in
the
in
the
content
index
for
the
hatch
like?
Do
you
think
it's
relevant
to
invite
people
to
come
up
with
proposals,
or
would
you
wait
for
for
the
whole
git
book
thing
to
be
figured
out.
C
Actually
this
when
I
read
this
jessica's
when
I
read
jessica's
post,
I
think
this
process.
The
proposal
submission
process
is
only
valid
for
like
before
they
hatch.
This
is
a
process
for
submitting
proposals
before
the
hatch
and
I'm
sure
that
maybe
after
the
hatch,
you
will
have
another
process
for
proposal
submission.
B
C
A
C
A
A
Okay,
so
yeah,
and
what
you
were
saying
too,
I
think
that's
a
good
initiative
from
comms.
You
know
that's
a
comms
thing
and
I
think
that's
a
good
idea
to
you
know,
promote
and
let
the
world
know
we
are
supporting
token
engineers.
A
A
C
C
When
people
want
to
submit
the
ones
a
bit
of
proposal
to
the
forum,
they
go
first
to
the
advice
process
right.
So
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
also
pin
this
post
in
that
category,
so
they
don't
have
to
look
for
it.
C
A
Yeah,
I
I
feel
like.
Actually
this
is
welcome
to
the
dc
that
jessica
built.
I
think
this
is
awesome.
You
know-
and
we
could
also
add
in
here
like
what
we
were
talking
before
about
decisions
like
all
processes.
We
could
also
add
them
here
and
promote
instead
of
like
the
way
to
be
more
transparent,
is
promoting
this
section
right?
D
Actually
I
did,
this
might
be
tangential.
I
don't
think
so.
I
I
did
a.
I
did
a
diagram
on
how
the
different
working
groups
relate
to
one
another.
I
still
have
to
pass
it
to
oh
listening,
the
the
whiteboard
where
everyone
works
on
on
different
things
and
can
arrange
them,
but
I
think
it
might
be
useful
for
this
because
you
want
to
describe
processes
and
boy,
you
know,
just
just
explaining
it
is,
is
not
gonna
quite
cut
it
when
it's
this
intricate
of
a
process.
D
I
don't
think
no
one.
Is
there
a
diagram
like
that,
like
a
diagram
that
for
someone
to
look
into
kind
of
like
onboarding,
you
come
in
and
you're
like
whoa?
What
are
all
these
working
groups?
What
what
does
each
one
do
and
how
does
each
one
assemble
itself
into
the
mega
optimus
prime
transformer
that
is
so
like?
C
D
It's
it's
right.
I
already
have
it
on
paper.
It
took
me
a
couple
hours.
Well,
it
was
way
back.
It
was
a
month
or
two
ago
when
I
didn't
know
much
about
so
I
had
to
research,
but
I
I
just
need
to
polish
it
it's
eighty
percent
done
and
but
I
mean
absolutely.
A
B
Yes,
I
agree,
I
I
don't
know
what
what
do
you
say
manu?
Should
we
dive
into
putting
this
together?
Maybe
in
the
in
the
oh.
D
It's
because
it's
because
I
think
I
think,
transparency
and
comms
have
like
this,
this,
like
van
diagram,
sort
of
like
a
circle
in
the
middle
where,
where
right
like
there
are
some
things
that
are
that
overlap.
So
maybe
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
overlap.
Sorry
to
interrupt.
You.
C
Yeah,
I
think,
yeah.
I
agree
with
mount
magnum,
because
this
is
a
commas
task,
but
this
will
also
help
our
transparency
efforts.
You
know
it
will
it's
a
huge
help
for
transparency.
A
Yeah,
I
totally
agree
with
what
humans
say
about
overlapping
and
yeah.
I
was
thinking
like
the
the
thing
of
creating
this
diagram.
Maybe
it's
more
cons
but
implementing
on
the
transparency
documentation.
I
think
that's
necessary,
so
yeah
I
yeah
they
overlap
and
I
think
if
you
want
to
take
those,
I
think
that
would
be
super
beneficial
for
the
community.
B
Yeah
I'd
say:
let's:
let's
do
it,
I
don't
know
if
you
could
meet
in
like
two
more
hours.
I
think
we
have
the
hack
session
manu,
but
yeah,
let's
put
it
together.
It
also
shouldn't
be
that
much
of
a
job.
D
D
A
B
Yeah,
actually
we're
hiring
a
still
photographer
and
a
videographer,
and
we
are
not
able
to
get
a
camera
into
hcc.
However,
we're
gonna
have
like
footage
of
the
team
and
we're
gonna
have
a
bunch
of
the
taoist
and
grip.
Just
told
me
yesterday
that
he
wants,
like
another
day
of
of
like,
like
some
hack
sessions
by
tec,
so
yeah.
We
will
just
have
some
like
different
stuff
going
on
that
we're
gonna
be
recording
and-
and
yes
of
course,
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
put
together
an
after
movie
of
the
whole
meetup.
C
B
A
Okay,
so
yeah
now
the
next
step
is
giving
access
to
platforms,
and
this
topic
that
joey
told
about
giving
access
to
nate
and
harfat.
I
think,
like
the
fastest
solution,
would
be
just
make
a
poll
on
the
on
the
store
chat
and
if
no
one's
blocks
it.
We
give
innate
access
to
and
yeah
and
move
on
on
this,
because
I
think
that's
going
for
a
while
right.
B
Now
he
does
have
access
to
cubspot.
The
thing
is
that
he
was
figuring
out
a
way,
to
put
it
a
way
to
not
expose
sensitive
information
for
other
authorized
users
like
the
mailing
list
and
all
of
this,
so
it's
yeah,
it's
something
that
nate
has
been
looking
into
for
for
the
past
couple
of
weeks.
B
B
Sorry
about
that-
I
guess
maybe
just
like
if
if
we
could
ask
nate
to
see
if
he
has
like
some,
let's
see
like
just
concerns,
I
would
say
just
regarding
transparency,
because
yeah
we're
we're
also
gonna.
Try
like
some
some
new
stuff
in
in
we're.
Also
gonna
we're
gonna,
be
trying
new
stuff
in
like
twitter
and
how
we
how
we
are
handling
it.
B
A
Yeah
actually
for
the
giving
access,
I'm
writing
with
ivy
and
yeah.
Mostly
it
was
me
and
ivy
processed
for
giving
out
credentials
and
basically
right
now,
it's
I
can
share
the
link
on
on.
A
And
yeah,
the
idea
is
like
with
the
discussion
we
really
had
on
the
forum,
basically
instead,
instead
of
using
jam.
That
was
also
giving
some
problems
when
me
and
she
tried
it
out.
We
should
set
it
up
dashlane
and
basically
like
the
process,
we
come
up
with.
It's
like
we're.
Gonna
use
a
typeform
where
the
community
are
going.
A
You
know,
for
example,
like
right
now,
if
it
was
asking
access
for
twitter,
so
david
use
this
type
form,
and
then
we
make
a
poll
on
the
on
the
stores
chat
if
no
one's
blocked
it
in
24
hours
like
we
just
give
access
to
him
and
that's
fine
and
yeah.
A
Basically,
that's
the
process
and
and
yeah
there's
more
stuff
writing
in
here
like
we
should
do
audits
every
month
and
but
yeah
just
feel
free
to
read
the
document
and
give
funny
feedback,
but
basically
it's
it's
like
a
sense
making
on
the
on
the
forum
post
on
the
credentials
we
already
did
like,
for.
I
think
it's
like
two
or
three
weeks:
that's
this
form.
What
is
going
on.
B
So,
just
to
get
it
right,
septi
this
new
cipher
isn't
available.
Yet
right.
A
No,
no,
no,
we
I
mean
I'm.
Basically,
I
don't
think
we
should.
We
want
to
use
no
cipher
at
any
time
like
the
basically
like,
also
semi's
working
on
fidelius,
but
it
will
take
some
time
like
maybe
months
so
the
idea
is
to
use
use
dashlin
that
that's
a
business
program
for
security
credentials
that
people
use
and
yeah
we
could
just
set
it
up
for
us
until
fidelios
or
some
good
technology
is
out
there.
A
A
C
A
D
A
B
No,
not
at
all
I
mean
I
I
I
guess
the
I
guess.
The
only
problem
is
is
just
the
process
itself,
but
we
cannot
figure
out
a
process
if
we
don't
have
the
right
tool
set.
So
our
tools
so
far
are
like
a
little
bit
like
up
like
out
there
just
like
like
up
in
the
air,
and
we
haven't
been
able
to
really
like
develop
a
a
specific
process.
B
So
if
we
I,
I,
I
feel
that
finding
the
tool
is
gonna
dictate
that
in
many
ways
just
like
I
mean
I
guess
with
jam,
we
got
like
the
like
the
the
feel
of
it,
just
like
the
practice
of
okay.
So
this
is
how
it's
gonna
work,
and
this
is
the
procedure,
but
it's
not
like
the
the
best
tool
to
use
so
right
now.
What
I,
what
I
would
say
is
that
if,
if,
if
we
oh
wait,
I
I
just
I
just
yeah
like
I,
I
just
understood
the
name.
A
B
Sorry
I
got,
I
got
distracted
by
it,
I'm
I'm
a
movie
geek,
but
but
I
I
I
feel
that
this
like,
so
so.
If
like,
for
example,
if
we,
if
we
started
using
new
cipher
right
now,
new
cipher,
would
they
take
like
a
specific
procedure?
B
But
if
we
then
use
fidelio,
it's
it's
probably
going
to
be
easier,
but
we
we
would
need
like
to
redefine
how
how
the
procedure
works.
So,
if,
if,
if,
if
we
could
like,
I,
I
guess
like
if,
if
credentials
are
gonna,
be
just
like
a
big,
a
big
issue
for
now,
maybe
we
could
depend
on
on
platforms
like
hubspot
or
tweetdeck.
A
B
Need
like
it's
just
like
yeah
like,
I
would
have
never
guessed
that
sam
was
gonna
like
jump
into
that,
but
but
I
would
like
yeah
I
would.
I
would
wait
for
the
right
for
the
right
tool.
Also.
This
is
like
a
common
need
in
in
the
whole
space,
so.
A
B
A
No,
no,
no,
not
at
all
okay,
and
we
would
use
dashlane
for
the
moment
until
basically,
fidelius
is
done
and
and
yeah
and
our
processes
would
be
on
dashlane.
You
can
basically
do
what
we
were
thinking.
We
could
do
on
jam.
So
you
know
your
controversies.
Do
all
that
stuff
and
the
thing
is
like
to
give
access
to
someone,
and
that
was
the
question
like.
Do
you
think
it's
okay
to
add?
You
know,
for
example,
if
david
in
this
case
he
wants
to
get
access
on
twitter.
A
He
fills
this
type
form
and
says
like
he
needs
twitter,
the
reason
blah
blah
blah
and
then,
as
soon
as
we
see
it
on
that
he
made
a
type
form
we
we
post
on,
we
post
it
on
on
the
store
chat
with
a
poll
like
david,
wants
access,
do
someone's
blocks
it
and
if
everyone
says
no,
and
if
no
one
blocks
it
basically
in
24
hours,
we
just
give
him
access
and
yeah.
This
process
would
have
a
delay
of
48
hours
maximum.
A
B
A
B
A
You
know
like
yeah,
you
know
just
do
it
a
call
together
and
set
it
up
and
yeah
basically
on
on
the
admins
for
the
for
the
dodging,
I
was
putting
your
name
because
you
know
like
you're
the
comp
store,
so
I
think
it
would
make
sense
for
the
efficiency
but
yeah,
but
before
doing
this,
this
should.
Oh
sorry,
this
should
go
on
on
a
forum
boat,.
A
C
B
Yes,
yes,
it's
good
yeah,
I'm
grateful
for
for
getting
jumping
to
the
next
point.
I'm
gonna
be
trying
this
out.
Meanwhile,
but
yeah.
This
looks
pretty
solid.
I
I
I
feel
that
we
could
figure
it
out
by
the
end
of
the
day.
A
Yeah
no
yeah,
basically
like
first,
we
need
the
the
forum
boat
from
the
community
and
you
know
next
week
we
could
maybe,
after
your
twitter
scene
on
the
next
monday,
we
do
a
workshop
set
it
up.
I
mean
it's
an
easy
thing:
it's
not
going
to
take
us
very
long,
but
first
we
need
the
the
community
approval.
A
And
yeah
the
next
point
is
something
that
eduardo
suggested
and
actually
on
our
community
video.
We
don't
have
any
description.
I
don't
know
if
someone
in
here
wants
to
take
that
issue,
maybe
manu
since
you
wanted
to
volunteer
and
the
video
is
created
by
you.
Would
it
make
sense
to
create
a
description
for
the
video.
D
Wait:
yeah
yeah
sure
bob.
Can
you
repeat
what
you
said
that
you
wanted?
You
mean
the
description
of
the
video
community.
I
made
for
youtube.
C
Yeah,
because
I
was
gonna,
ask
you
also
about
this,
because
if
it's
already
allowed
to
go
public,
then
we
should
tweet
about
it,
but
it's
this.
This
version
is
not
yet
the
final
one
is
that
right.
A
A
D
C
No
because
because
I
checked
the
status
on
youtube,.
D
C
Status
on
youtube
was
unlisted
and
it
wasn't
in
the
comms
call
last
time.
So
I
thought
because
I
think
the
the
previous
version
was
also
there
as
unlisted.
D
Yeah,
I'm
messing,
I'm
messing
with
you,
yeah
yeah.
It's
ready!
It's
ready.
I
don't
know
when,
when
today
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
launch
it
like
we're.
Gonna
have
a
five
four
three
a
lot
of
confetti
and
then
everyone
launches,
and
then
I
hope
it's
not
anti-climactic.
D
C
But
I
think
because
we
have
a
twitter
sink
later,
so
maybe
we
can
add
it
in
our
agenda
when
we
want
to
announce
it.
Yes,.
B
Also
yeah,
yes,
the
the
description
and
the
and
the
tweak
like
around
it,
and
all
of
that
like.
I
was
also
interested
in
that
before,
like
giving
that
that
step,
however,
like
as
soon
as
we
put
it
out,
like
I
figured
out
like
we
could,
we
could
set
like
the
wheel
go
for
at
least
the
first
24
hours.
A
B
Hey
safety.
Okay,
could
you
send
me
your
email,
I'm
already
like
uploading
the
credentials
to
the
to
dashlane.
A
A
A
Okay,
yeah.
The
the
next
point
is
the
transparency
on
on
our
decisions.
That's
something
that
lady
was
talking
yesterday
on
the
transparency,
chat
and
yeah.
I
feel
like
we
don't
have
enough
transparency
on
how
we
take
decisions
like
I
know,
like
we
take
decisions
on
calls.
We
take
decisions
on
the
forum
boat,
we
take
decisions
on
talking
a
lot
and
we,
but
we
don't
have
really.
You
know
a
real,
clear
boundaries
on
when
we
take
decisions
where
and
why
and
yeah.
A
I
think
that's
something
we
should
start
working
on,
but
at
least
for
me
I
would
start
to
do
it
like
after
the
admins
rules
for
platforms.
You
know,
like
I,
I
really
hope
to
finish
like
this
week
or
next
week,
maximum,
but
actually
I
also
need
help
from
some
people
like,
for
example,
if
I'm
writing
rules
for
git
book,
and
I
do
not
give
books.
So
it
takes
me
some
time
but
yeah.
That's
also
something
on
transparency.
A
A
A
But
basically
the
idea
is
to
have
all
the
audits
in
one
place,
but
then
we
also
have
today
the
audits
like
that
right
now,
so
monitoring
so
everyone
put
like
any
community
member
could
say
anything
about
any
audit
and
I
think
that's
cool,
but
also
having
a
basically
like
this
document
I
use,
but
you
know
for
all
for
the
whole
community.
I
think
it's.
No,
it's
not
this
one.
A
This
one,
basically,
you
know
like
have
something
like
this
for
the
the
community
like
this
is
all
the
audits
and
those
three
are
the
ones
we're
missing
and
yeah.
This
is
the
colors
and
blah
blah
blah,
but
just
have
something
like
this,
but
for
like
on
the
forum
post,
basically
so
that
everyone
can
follow,
follow
it
so.
A
A
C
No,
I
mean
you're
three
in
the
afternoon.
A
A
Okay,
the
next
point
well
actually
like
it
was.
If
someone
wants
to
hack
for
this
last
20
minutes
on
wait,
I
need
to
send.
A
A
B
I
do
know
that
medium
works
with
google
login,
however,
for
the
contributions
medium,
which
is
the
one
that
we've
been
using,
everyone
uses
like
their
individual,
their
individual
profile
and
then
the
tc
medium
account
should
give
them
access
to
be
able
to
contribute.
A
Yeah
yeah,
okay,
but
but
basically
what
we
need
is
like:
what
can
people
do
with
the
medium
access?
You
know
they
can.
I
believe,
nate
writes
that
like
they
can
create
drafts,
they
can
publish
stories
and
they
I
don't
know
if
they
can
delete
stories.
But
on
this
first
point
we
can
write
everything
that
can
people
can
do
and
then
on
the
second
word,
what's
allowed
to
do
and
what's
forbidden
and
then
we
create
the
rules
and,
for
example,
I
was
working
with
bye.
Bye
like
what
can
be
done
on
the
forum.
A
A
B
B
Oh,
no,
it's
okay!
Septi!
I
was
gonna
say
that
I
mean
it
is
not
necessary
like
for,
for
anyone
else
just
to
stay,
but
if
you
just
wanted
to
like
hack
around
dashlane
and
try
it
out
like
a
I'm
down
for
for
staying
these
like
extra
minutes,
if
you
have
them
yeah.
C
B
Yeah,
and
also
like
the
the
kiwi
that
I
was
just
writing
to
you
about
see.
If
we
could
talk
about
that,
okay,
but
yeah,
nothing
related
to
it.
A
For
the
doctrine
right,
since
this
is
more
credentials
and
that
stuff.
B
Yes,
ibm
manu,
do
you
have
anything
else?
Sorry
for.
C
B
C
B
Yes,
I'll
be,
if,
if
I
don't
know,
if
I
can
call
you
in
two
minutes,
I
just
want
to
catch
up
with
with
julie,
and
then
we
can
take
those
10
minutes
and.