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City Council, meeting 34, November 8, 2017 - Part 3 of 3 - Evening Session
Agenda and background materials:
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Part 1 of 3 - Morning Session: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS0sNGS2IBw#t=7m6s
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A
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E
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
stand
up
to
support
the
recommendation
that
comes
from
etiquette
committee
and
I'm
not
going
to
be
supporting
any
of
the
other
amendments
to
this,
because
since
I've
been
on,
council
I've
been
hearing
about
the
cost
of
lifeguards
as
well
as
crossing
guards
and
trying
to
move
it
off.
The
police
board,
she's,
happy
I
became
counselor
11
years
ago
and
it's
been
dragging
on
dragging
on
and
by.
Finally,
we
are
taking
some
action
and
we
still
want
to
delay
it
further
to
get
the
perfect
solution.
E
The
staff
has
been
discussing
between
the
police
board
as
well
as
our
transportation
staff,
and
then
we
Spartans
wrecked
about
the
lifeguard,
so
I
think
it's
time
to
move
on
and
to
allow
this
to
happen
that
the
transfer
of
the
services
which
is
defying
is
an
on-call
service
provider
to
police
right
now
and
sitting
on
the
board
and
under
the
guidance
of
counsel
Carol.
You
know
we
worked
out
some
of
the
issues,
so
I
think
we
need
to
move
forward.
So
just
please
approve
the
recommendations
that
come
from
where
that
committee.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
J
Councillor
Wang
Tam
has
a
problem
in
her
ward
and
I'm,
not
surprised
to
hear
it.
We
have
gone
from
the
time
when
you
were
on
the
police
port.
Still
madam
Speaker
and
I
know
advocating
for
change
and
not
getting
there.
This
change
that
is
coming
was
hard-won,
but
at
that
time
there
were
5,000
561
police
officers
in
the
service.
Today,
this
very
day
snapshot.
There
are
49
hundred
the
budget
that
you
will
have
before
you
in
December
will
have
forty
seven
hundred
and
fifty
officers.
J
That
is
huge
change
in
uniforms
and
it
is
only
possible
by
rejigging
services.
There
are
also
in
one
of
these
services
in
crossing
guards.
It's
not
perfect.
We
have
long
been
frustrated.
We
get
positive
recommendations
from
a
transportation
staff.
Then
we
get
to
the
police
end
and
they
say
no
can
do
you
keep
pressuring
our
budget
and
and
and
no
we
can't
do
it.
J
So
there's
something
not
wrong
with
this,
not
right
with
this
picture.
It's
part
of
the
reason
why
this
this
transformation
is
is
being
proposed.
Likewise
the
lifeguard
model.
Yes,
you
are
a
much
different
type
of
lifeguard
when
you
were
in
in
open
seas
or
at
Great,
Lakes,
Lake
friends,
it's
quite
a
different
job,
but
one
that
you
heard
mr.
J
Olaf
say
that
she
is
willing
to
willing
to
to
begin
to
look
at
willing
to
begin
to
do
but
we've
given
her
a
longer
timeline,
they're,
both
positions
having
to
do
with
safety-
and
there
is
a
way
to
make
this
happen,
and
this
is
the
type
of
change
that
you're
gonna
get.
If
you
want
to
make
sustainable
budget
change.
If
you
want
me
to
tweak,
you
want
me
to
trim,
we
can
we
can
move
out
hirings
for
the
following
year.
J
J
Those
are
the
kinds
of
changes
that
came
out
of
the
core
service
review
earlier
in
this
eight
years
of
savings.
Those
are
the
types
of
core
service
review
changes
that
have
lasted
the
ones
we
gave
them
the
time
to
do
it
and
the
room
to
do
it.
You
heard
from
staff
that
you're
gonna
hear
back
on
these.
There
are
a
few
motions
that
say
we
want
to
see
the
the
language
in
the
RFP,
that's
fair,
but
if
you,
if
you
slow
down
this
change
too
much-
and
it
doesn't
happen,
then
you're
right
counts
are
wrong.
J
Tam
through
through
you,
madam
Speaker
you're
right.
Some
of
the
other
councillors
who
said
I'm
worried
about
the
level
of
service
over
at
the
police.
You
have
to.
You
have
to
look
at
the
whole
reform
and
the
whole
transformation
else.
I'm
back
to
asking
the
same
question:
I
asked
earlier
in
municipal
licensing
and
standards,
you're
gonna,
slow
things
down
and
load
requests
in
on
staff.
I
gotta
ask
you
the
same.
J
That
I
asked
my
resonance
when
they
say
I
don't
want
to
see
a
bill
for
any
of
this
I,
don't
want
to
pay
for
anything
how's.
Your
service
how's
your
service,
because,
if
it's
not
great,
read
the
whole
report
embrace
the
change
and
perfect
the
change,
if
you
want
to
see
some
things
in
it,
adjusted
and
perfected-
that's
great,
but
don't
slow
it
down,
because
you
have
already
made
the
staff
reductions
that
make
the
savings
attached
to
it
possible.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Thank
You.
B
Thank
You
Speaker
I
just
want
to
offer
a
couple
of
comments
on
what
I
see
in
this
report
and
some
risks
going
forward.
I
really
want
to
commend
the
Toronto,
Police
Service
I
think
they
do
a
fine
job,
managing
the
resources
that
we've
provided
to
them
in
delivering
the
crossing
guard
program.
One
of
the
things
that
they
are
exceptional
at
is
adhering
to
the
standards
as
to
where
a
crossing
guard
belongs.
B
I,
don't
want
to
stand
in
the
way
of
transformation,
even
though
I'm
concerned
with
that
and
the
movement
of
this
particular
service
into
the
Toronto
Public
Service
opens
it
up
to
hands
into
the
decision-making
and
I
say
that
the
most
respectful
way,
but
our
track
record
in
this
council
chamber
is
very
clear.
We
seem
to
not
stick
to
our
own
rules
when
it
comes
to
selecting
places
for
traffic
lights,
selecting
places
for
stop
signs,
selecting
places
for
speed
humps.
B
We
come
up
with
these
great
standards
to
keep
them
non-political
and
we
asked
for
advice
from
staff
about
where
they
go,
and
then
we
just
go
and
overrule.
It
come
to
any
Community
Council
on
any
given
day
that
they're
sitting
and
that's
what
you'll
see
so
I
will
be
supporting
the
recommendations
here.
But
I
want
to
make
this
statement
as
a
reminder,
so
I
can
refer
back
to
it
at
the
end
of
the
day.
What
we
are
looking
for
is
a
more
effective
and
more
efficient
delivery
of
services.
B
I
think
we
should
be
paying
very
close
attention
to
the
implementation
plan
on
how
the
crossing
guard
program
will
work.
I
think
we
should
be
coming
up
with
some
very
helpful
and
meaningful
rules
about
how
this
works
and,
most
importantly,
I,
think
this
council
should
follow
our
own
rules
when
it
comes
to
making
choices
about
where
those
crossing
guards
will
go
and
resist
the
temptation
about
making
them
political
decisions,
which
is
what
I
fear
one
day.
Thank
you.
K
It's
probably
one
of
the
most
confusing
areas
when
it
comes
to
dealing
with
parents
with
children,
because
obvious
and
all
meeting
people
ask
about
warrants
and
what
you
do
to
get
a
stop
sign
or
crossing
walk
or
or
lights
and
I
have
a
very
clear
criteria
about
how
that's
Matt
and
what
what
can
be
done
in
the
process
and
at
six
it's
easily
explainable.
One
of
the
biggest
hurdles
I
have
when
it
comes
to
crossing
guards
and
I
have
five
schools
in
my
ward
right
now
trying
to
get
crossing
guards.
K
Is
they
have
the
the
principal
writes
a
letter
to
the
police
chief
I
sent
a
flier
rate
to
all
the
area
residents.
They
send
me
emails,
which
I
forward
on
to
the
police
chief
nine
times
out
of
ten
the
crossing
guard
gets
tonight
and
when
I
contact
the
police
department
and
I
say
you
know
why
did
I
get
across?
Why
was
this
denied?
K
Well,
it
didn't
meet
the
warrants
and
then
I
spend
weeks
upon
weeks
fighting
my
way
through
the
police
bureaucracy,
trying
to
figure
out
what
these
warrants
were
and
where
they're
why
they
were
denied
they're,
not
written
down
anywhere.
They
seem
to
be
a
very
undone
on
a
case
by
case
basis,
a
few
years
ago,
at
Lawrence
and
Lawrence
Avenue
and
Scarborough
Golf
Club
in
my
ward,
we
tried
to
get
a
crossing
guard.
The
police
denied
it
I
was
told
it
didn't
meet
the
warrants.
In
the
next
week,
I
had
two
children
on
two
separate
occasions.
K
One
was
hit
by
a
car
and
one
very.
Fortunately,
it
was
sideswiped
by
a
car
and
I
went
to
the
school
I
had
a
meeting.
I
explained
the
police
turned
down
the
crossing
guard
and
then
I
made
a
few
phone
calls
the
next
day
the
Toronto
Police
Services
and
in
a
few
days
the
same
place.
I
got
a
crossing
guard,
so
you
know
it's.
It
gets
very
confusing
for
parents,
as
I
said
you
there's,
we
have
a
set
standard.
K
L
L
You
might
recall
when
we
contracted
out
solid
waste
services
west
of
Yonge
Street.
We,
as
a
council,
made
some
very
clear
rules
around
making
sure
that
if
we
change
the
recycling
program,
our
contract
with
the
provider
gave
us
the
flexibility
to
make
sure
that
we
could
make.
We
could
provide
like-for-like
recycling
services,
whether
it's
contracted
out
or
directly
delivered.
This
is
standard
the
way
we
do
it
at
the
city
and
part
of
why
I
want
to
do.
This
is
I.
L
L
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
develop
those
policies,
whatever
system
we
have
of
providing
crossing
guards
we'll
make
sure
that
those
employees
are
not
locked
into
some
rigid
contract
that
doesn't
let
us
deploy
in
a
way
that
matches
any
change
in
road
design,
any
change
in
in
where
the
crossing
guards
go.
This
is
a
this
doesn't
delay.
This
is
not
an
effort
to
try
to
stop
what
we're
doing
with
the
Police
Services
Board.
It's
recognizing
that
there
are
two
distinct
decisions
to
make.
One
is:
does
this
appropriately
belong
with
the
police
and
I?
L
A
J
L
Government
management
committee
is
the
is
the
committee
that
has
carriage
of
how
internally
we
organize
our
delivery
of
service.
We
set
the
standard
for
what
roads
look
like
and
our
long-term
transportation
vision
like
our
policy,
like
vision,
zero
through
the
works
committee,
we
set
our
purchasing
relationships
through
the
government.
Management
Committee
is.
J
L
And
and
that
that
will
go
ahead
and
go
to
the
works
committee,
and
that
will
be
all
fine.
This
directs
the
general
manager
of
transportation,
so
the
same
person
to
hive
off
the
particular
questions
around
how
we
design
the
purchase
of
service
arrangement
or
the
contract,
which
is
a
different
question
than
the
policy
goal,
and
so
it
should
go
to
a
different
place.
There
are
two
separate
questions
right.
The
the
works
committee
sets
goals
on
all
kinds
of
things
with
with
roads
with
and
so
on
and
those
contracts
don't
all
go
through.
The
Works
Committee.
M
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
am
in
support
of
the
recommendations
in
principle,
but
I
have
a
number
of
concerns
that
that
I
wanna
address
one
many
of
the
folks
who
work
from
my
knowledge,
at
least
in
Scarborough,
in
the
crossing
guards
positions.
Obviously
some
of
them
do
it
because
they
want
to
have
some
sort
of
a
fun
doing
something
important
for
the
community,
but
many
of
them
actually
also
do
it,
because
they
need
that
extra
income.
M
And
in
many
of
these
cases
it's
seniors
who
are
retired,
who
are
not
in
a
in
a
situation
they
can
afford.
So
they
do
this
for
for
income
and,
unfortunately,
the
precarious
nature
of
this
job
plus.
The
kind
of
pay
that
exists
is
worrisome
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that's
that
that's.
Why
I
support
councillor
perks,
motion
to
have
this
come
to
government
management
committee,
so
that
we
can
actually
look
at
how
this
gets
tied
into
fair
wages
policy?
M
How
it
ties
into
the
current
employment
being
transferred,
how
it
ties
into
transfer
of
information
from
one
department
to
another,
how
it
ties
into
training
that
is
necessary
for
new
people
recruited
and
how
you
know
if
we
were
to
enter
into
into
a
purchase
of
service
with
a
for-profit
organization,
how
the
concept
of
for-profit
and
Community
Safety
worked
together.
In
fact,
in
my
area
I
know
there
was
a
reference
made
in
terms
of
police
officers
doing
this
job,
though
it's
not
as
difficult
as
being
a
police
officer.
M
It
is
a
difficult
job
in
many
of
our
areas.
In
fact,
you
know
schools
in
some
parts
of
my
areas
have
300
400
cars
coming
in
to
drop
off
children
and
it
is.
It
is
a
job
that
requires
a
lot
of
skills
and
and
knowledge
and
and
the
kind
of
training,
so
I
don't
want
to
diminish
the
kind
of
work
by
saying
you
know
it
is.
It
is
something
that
shouldn't
be
taken
seriously
a
like
lollipop
man
or
something
like
that.
It
is
very
important.
We
take
the
seriousness
of
this
job
into
careful
consideration.
M
So
I
would
like
to
support
this
motion
in
principle,
provided
that
there
is
a
bit
of
a
framework
that
comes
around
the
employment
piece
of
it
around
the
sustainability
piece
of
it
and
the
community
safety
priority
and
how
it
would
relate
to
for
profit
organization
if
there
were
to
be
purchasing
of
services
for
this
kind
of
role.
So
I
strongly
support
and
ask
the
council
to
support
them.
Motion
from
Council
of
puts
to
have.
This
report
be
reported
back
to
government
management
committee,
Thank
You.
N
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
just
want
to
add
my
voice
to
the
to
their
counselors
that
are
saying.
Let's
move
this
forward.
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
address
this
today
and
not
refer
the
matter
as
councillor
Davis's
motion
suggest
that
we
refer
and
delay
along
with
the
robust
implementation
plan
that
you
see
before
you
in
this
report
and
the
staff
recommendations
at
executive,
I
added
Laird
on
another
motion
to
make
sure
the
implementation
plan
looked
at
warrants,
developed
by
in
consultation
with
the
Toronto
Police
Service,
in
accordance
with
the
Highway
Traffic
Act.
N
So
not
only
do
we
have
a
great
report
in
front
of
us.
We
also
have
that
additional
support
of
this
motion
that
was
passed,
I,
believe
unanimously
at
executive
and
to
look
at
you
know,
places
where
we
need
to
add,
remove,
etc,
and
that's
coming
back
to
Public,
Works
and
Infrastructure
Committee
in
the
second
quarter
of
2018.
So
I
urge
you
and
encourage
you
not
to
support
the
referral
motion.
Also
councillor
perks,
put
forward
a
motion
you'll
see
today
as
well.
N
Just
just
in
the
last
few
minutes
we
have
a
purchasing
bylaw
at
City
Hall
that
governs
all
of
these
things
and
that's
all
these
things
and
it's
a
very
strong
bylaw,
the
purchasing
bylaw
and
that
will
that
will
address
councilor
perks,
motion.
So
I
see
this
as
a
delay,
tactic
and
I
hope
you
will
not
support
these
two
amendments
before
us
and
just
support
the
staff
recommendations.
D
G
You,
madam
Speaker
and
I,
want
to
speak
about
this
in
in,
in
you
know,
sort
of
a
high-level
respect
in
the
context
of
the
overall
task,
that's
in
front
of
the
Police,
Services
Board
and
ultimately,
in
some
respects.
This
council,
with
respect
to
the
modernization
of
the
police
force
and
the
the
gaining
of
a
degree
of
control
over
the
growth
and
the
budget.
I
will
say
that
the
first
year
I
was
here.
G
I
wasn't
surprised,
but
I
certainly
was
I,
took
note
of
the
fact
that
in
the
first
I
think
it
was
my
first
to
press
my
own
second
budget
meeting.
There
was
almost
a
competition
going
on
here.
Some
of
you
will
remember
it
where
there
were
I
think
it
was
even
a
cascading
motion
that
started
at
saying
how
desires
it
was
to
cut
25
million.
It
was
an
arbitrary
number
that
was
picked
out
of
the
police
budget.
G
It
I
think
all
that
there
was
the
need
to
address
other
issues
that
were
out
there
that
affected
the
degree
to
which
people
had
trust
in
the
police
and
the
degree
to
which
they
were
performing
the
role
in
the
way
that
we
wanted
them
to
perform
it
within
the
context
of
more
community,
focused
policing
and
so
unusually,
I.
Think
because
you
know
there
had
been
a
pattern
established
for
the
police
budget
is
just
gonna
up
and
up
and
up
and
up
and
up
the
police
board
of
which
I
yes,
I,
am
a
member.
G
So
I'm
not
able
to
be
completely
objective
council
early,
councilor
Carol,
our
members
took
it
upon
itself
and
and
and
at
the
beginning
it
was
the
subject
to
great
controversy,
because
people
thought
it
was
going
to
be
sort
of
a
whitewash
and
there
would
be
nothing
really
come
of
it
and
put
together
a
task
force
consisting
of
some
very
innovative
thinking
police
officers,
not
necessarily
the
most
senior
in
the
service,
but
some
who
were
committed
to
change
and
some
civilians.
And
lo
and
behold.
G
That
budget
had
to
get
out
of
doing
things
that
were
not
part
of
the
core
policing
service
and
it
would
focus
on
kind
of
a
where
needed
when
needed,
type
of
approach.
That
said,
you
weren't
just
gonna,
do
a
cookie
cutter
approach
to
policing,
but
you
were
going
to
do
things
where
needed
and
when
needed-
and
you
would
do
this
using
technology
to
free
up
police
time
presently
taking
writing
taking
up
writing
reports.
G
But
it
also
meant-
and
it
was
essential
to
all
this-
that
you
got
the
police
out
of
non
core
policing
services
and
allowed
for
that
to
be
done
by
somebody
else,
so
that
you
could
take
expensive,
highly
trained
police
officers
and
have
them
focus
on
core
policing
duties
and
I
did
I.
Don't
think
I
heard
a
voice
speak
up
in
this
chamber
at
the
time
of
that
discussion,
and
even
when
that
report
came
out
about
saying
that
no
those
were
the
right.
G
Two
priorities
gained
control
the
budget
and
in
reverse
order,
the
most
important
of
them
being
to
restore
trust
by
deploying
police
officers
where
they
were
most
needed,
which
I
think
many
of
us
would
argue
would
be
in
the
community.
You
know
dealing
with
people
forging
relationships
and
yes
enforcing
the
law,
and-
and
so
here
we
are
and
I
believe
that
we've
actually
achieved
a
degree
of
success
on
that
by
coming
as
far
as
we
have
where
last
year
and
in
the
budget
presented
thus
far
this
year
with
a
lot
of
work
done
by
councillor
Carroll.
G
What's
concerning
me
as
a
result
of
this
debate,
that
I've
heard
yesterday
and
today
is
and
I
will
be,
voting
against,
making
almost
a
cow
I'll
be
voting
against
not
supporting
as
a
better
way
to
put
it
not
supporting
councillor
Davis's
motion
on
counts,
their
perks,
motion.
Councillor
Davis's
motion
to
me
is
just
a
reason
yet
again
to
start
to
delay
getting
on
with
this,
for
reasons
that
she
did
spell
out
and
in
fairness,
set
out
some
of
those
reasons
in
terms
of
the
what,
if
and
what?
G
If
and
what,
if
and
I
believe
that
if
we
take
the
step
of
saying
our
first
response
to
one
of
the
first
things
that
comes
in
front
of
us,
where
it's
suggested
that
we
should
be
taking
up
responsibility
for
the
crossing
guards
program
with
the
notion
by
the
way
that
the
warrants
to
address
one
of
the
concerns
would
be
set
by
the
police
on
a
continuing
basis.
So
you
don't
have
them
being
said
or
ignored
in
this
room
and
with
item
nine
here.
G
That
I
think
was
prepared,
I
forget
by
whom
but
item
nine,
that
recommendation
nine
talks
about
asking
the
general
manager
to
develop
an
implementation
plan
which
to
me-
and
it
specifically
refers
to
the
warrants-
and
it
specifically
refers
to
other
elements
of
the
program.
I
would
argue,
including
how
its
procured
I
think
we
can
get
on
with
them
and
I.
G
Think
it'll
be
absolutely
the
wrong
signal
to
send,
in
fact,
I
think
it
will
be
very
destructive
to
the
notion
of
having
us
all
move
forward,
including
the
police,
on
their
end
with
all
of
this,
if
we
send
the
signal
that
sort
of
says
we're
going
to
delay
this,
we're
going
to
study
this
and
so
on,
it's
been
studied.
It's
going
to
be
studied
as
a
result
of
recommendation
number
nine.
G
There
is
no
need
to
delay
getting
on
with
this
and
there's
a
full
implementation
plan,
a
robust
implementation
plan
that
is
going
to
come
back
and
so
I
urge
you
to
support
this
recommendation.
It's
consistent
with
the
transformation
task
force
report
is
consistent
with
what
we
said.
We
wanted
the
police
services
to
do
in
this
room.
It's
consistent
with
constraining
the
budget.
It's
consistent
with
redeploying
police
officers
to
community
policing
and
restoring
trust
in
the
community
and
I
think
it
is
the
right
way
to
go
so
I
hope
people
will
positively
support
these
recommendations.
D
A
I
A
Okay,
earlier
in
the
meeting
counts
of
perks
roles
on
a
point
of
order
to
ask
if
members
motion
34:22
by
councilmember
Lee
was
an
order
given
council
councils
earlier
action
on
audit
committee,
10.4
and
audit
committee
10.3
I
have
reviewed
the
motion
with
the
clerk
and
I
believe
that
motion
can
stand
in
addition
to
those
actions
as
a
result,
I'm
ruling
the
motion
is
in
order
by
now
ask
Council
to
consider
this
motion.
Counselor,
perks,
old.
A
O
Troi
see
thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I'm,
asking
leave
to
introduce
an
urgent
motion
without
notice
concerning
the
central
waterfront
secondary
plan
and
related
Ontario
Municipal
Board
Appeals,
the
East
Bay
front.
The
reason
for
the
urgency
is
that
in
Ontario,
Municipal
Board
hearing
is
scheduled
for
November
20th,
2017
city
planning
and
legal
staff,
provided
this
motion
to
me
and
I'm
tabeling
it
at
their
request.
Thank
you.
A
A
D
H
Thank
you.
My
speaker,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
want
to
confirm
this
for
the
record,
so
the
the
country's
largest
municipal
governing
body
is
sitting
here
at
7:20
at
night
and
we're
going
to
be
discussing
and
always
stop
in
North
York.
Is
that
correct?
Just
from
a
governance
perspective
is
that
is
that
whoever
thinks
that's
right?
I
just
want
to
put
that
onto
the
record.
H
L
Be
delighted
that
councillor
Paula
Fletcher
would
be
permitted
to
add
to
the
agenda
today's
meeting,
an
urgent
motion
without
notice
concerning
the
preservation
of
the
Hearn
generating
station
at
4:40,
Unwin
Avenue
reason
for
urgency.
This
motion
is
urgent
because
the
City
of
Toronto
has
recently
become
aware
that
the
Hearn
generating
station
at
4:40,
Unwin
Avenue,
may
be
subject
to
sale
or
transfer
on.
A
Q
A
Just
been
corrected,
we're
just
it's
here
before
us
now,
so
we
are
going
to
deal
with
it
now
sure.
So
is
there
anybody
else
that
has
any
question
on
this
I
don't
have
questions
well.
Okay,
hold
on
council
want
an
okay
counselor
shiner.
We
are
dealing
with
Pitt
on
page
three
e
ex
28
point
16.
It
was
held
down
by
council
wong-tam
the
legacy
restoration
project
update
all
right.
So
do
we
have
any
questions?
Councillor
robinson
councillor.
N
H
A
N
R
N
R
We're
not
sure
I
see
a
folder
that's
being
distributed
to
the
counselors
that
design
depending
upon
how
big
the
actual
monument
is
will
be
in
the
millions
of
dollars
and
the
federal
government
has
indicated
or
sorry.
The
provincial
government
has
indicated
some
funding
of
one
and
a
half
million,
but
there's
no
certainty
on
any
other
funding
and
we
don't
know
what
the
quantum
that
is
needed.
We
need
to
do
work
on
that
so
with
council
fire.
So
we
need
to
report
back,
which
is
why
the
motion
has
asked
us
to
do
more
work.
N
N
J
Yes,
madam
Speaker
I
had
never
actually
a
red
print,
but
I'd
never
actually
seen
the
drawing
before
was
care
taken
to
make
sure
that
the
that
the
Nathan
Phillips
Square
restoration,
portions,
all
all
of
which
are
part
of
an
international
design,
competition
to
make
the
square
a
beautiful
place
that
holds
thousands
and
thousands
of
people
for
events.
Does
this
obstruct
any
of
that
footprint?
So.
R
R
No,
it's
just
a
conceptual
drawing
that
they
submitted
to
give
a
concept
of
what
is
possible.
The
motions
in
front
of
you
require
staff
to
consult
with
the
Nathan
Phillips
Square
community
of
eizariya
committee,
as
well
as
the
general
community,
and
take
a
look
at
a
lot
of
design
criteria,
feasibility,
quite
technical
feasibility
criteria.
There's
a
lot
of
work
still
to
be
done
on
the
design,
in
other
words,
but.
C
C
D
C
Q
I'll
be
speaking
here
from
the
presentation
table
and
if
I
can
ask
staff
to
put
the
image
on
the
screen
just
to
provide
us
with
some
assistance
and
I
know
that
councillor
Laden
is
going
to
speak
as
the
chair
of
the
Aboriginal
Affairs
Committee
as
well
councillors
and
madam
chair.
We
have
an
opportunity
here
and
obviously
this
was
not
the
original
concept
for
Nathan
Phillips
Square,
especially
after
it
went
through
this
international
competition.
It
actually
won
an
award.
Q
Q
Council
fire
is
one
of
the
many
indigenous
organizations
in
Toronto
and
they
step
forward
with
a
project,
and
their
project
responds
to
one
of
the
recommendations
out
of
the
Truth
and
Reconciliation
Commission.
There
were
84
calls
to
action
after
a
several
year
in
review
and
number
82
out
of
those
84
recommendations
is
is
this
is
that
they
called
for
the
establishment
of
a
highly
visible,
publicly
accessible
monument
in
every
capital
city
to
commemorate
the
victims
and
survivors
of
Canada's
residential
schools.
Q
The
Aboriginal
Affairs
Committee
has
been
advocating
for
the
Aboriginal
Affairs
Office
they've
been
advocating
for
indigenous
placemaking
they've
been
advocating
for
their
rightful
place
in
the
city
and
that
advocacy
has
has
has
sort
of
manifests
itself
into
a
lot
of
talk,
but
also
now
a
lot
of
action,
whether
it's
the
raising
of
the
five
indigenous
flags
on
the
on
the
eastern
flank,
egde
of
Nathan
Phillips
Square
or
perhaps
now.
The
new
establishment
proposed
establishment
of
the
Aboriginal
Affairs
Office.
Q
This
is
a
very
exciting
time,
but
Toronto
has
not
been
leading
in
the
in
the
Canadian
conversation
about
reconciliation,
we've.
Actually,
we've
actually
faltered
a
little
bit.
This
opportunity,
that's
come
before
us
is
really
an
exciting
one.
That
requires
further
investigation
and
that's
what
this
is.
So
this
is
the
space
if
I
can
get
the
screen
back
up.
Q
This
is
the
space
you
see
it,
you
walk
by
it
every
single
day
and
there
is
no
no
strategy
for
zero
now,
recognising
that
the
monument
that
they
are
proposing
is
not
going
to
be
inexpensive.
That's
why
the
provincial
government
has
said
we're
going
to
give
you
one
point:
five
million
dollars
and
council
fire
is
very
confident
that
they
will
go
and
and
be
able
to
secure
additional
funding
from
the
federal
government.
Q
Now
I
know
that
there's
been
some
conversation
about
what
could
it
look
like,
and
this
is
what,
at
the
very
early
stages,
what
the
concept
is.
So
you
have
the
sculpture
of
the
of
the
turtle,
which
represents
Turtle
Island,
which
is
essentially
North
America
by
indigenous
storytelling
and
this
indigenous
methodology,
but
that
that
structure
alone,
then
that
structure
alone
could
not
possibly
fill
up
the
square,
we're
going
to
need
to
landscape
it
and
we're
going
to
put
some
placemaking
around
it.
Q
Now,
of
course,
it's
not
going
to
be
inexpensive,
but
this
is
going
to
be
Toronto's,
Toronto's
expression
of
reconciliation.
This
is
going
to
be
our
symbolic
gesture
of
reconciliation
because
counselors,
we
don't
have
one
right
now
and
I
just
want
to
finish
with
this
one
concluding
thought.
My
concluding
thought
is
that
I
know
that
there
might
be
counselors
who
want
to
treat
this
only
as
a
war,
27
project
and
I
am
very
prepared
to
open
up
the
word
27
coffers
for
this
project,
however
Thank
You
counsel.
However,
madam
Speaker,
it
should
be
noted
that
houses.
Q
I
Madam
Speaker
so
I'm
seeing
this
brochure
today
this
evening
for
the
first
time
and
I'd
give
a
thousand
percent
of
my
support.
I
think
this
is
great
I
think
the
idea
is
perfect.
We've
got
this
piece
of
Nathan
Phillips
Square,
which
looks
like
a
forgotten
land
right
now
and
I
think
being
next
to
the
Peace
Garden.
This
will
bring
even
more
people
when
they
come
to
Nathan
Phillips
Square
give
them
an
area
to
go,
to
sit
to
wander
and
I.
Think
dedicating
it
to
the
the
facility.
I
S
Where
do
you
start
trying
to
get
over
generations
of
injustice
of
racism,
about
right,
thievery
of
children
and
being
a
new
parent
I
can
tell
you
like
many
of
you
if
your
parents
probably
understand
just
how
deep
that
goes,
I
can't
begin
to
understand
what
steps
we
need
to
take
to
start.
Rebuilding
that
trust
and
regaining
that
or
rebuilding
that
inequality
that
exists
between
us
and
those
that
that
that
welcomed
us
into
into
this
country.
S
The
the
Truth
and
Reconciliation
Commission
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
travel
to
what
was
their
last
offering
of
stories
from
survivors,
and
this
was
in
Edmonton.
Several
years
ago,
I
brought
on
behalf
of
the
City
of
Toronto,
a
dedication
which
was
our
year
of
Truth
and
Reconciliation
that
continued
into
our
current.
Our
current
a
term
of
counsel
and
I
brought
them
to
that
and
I
offered
it
to
their
bentwood
box,
with
a
commitment
on
behalf
of
the
city
that
we
would
follow
through
on
the
94
recommendations
with
from
the
Truth
and
Reconciliation
Commission.
S
There
are
many
that
speak
to
municipalities
in
our
role.
There
are
a
handful,
but
there's
not
many.
This
is
the
big
one.
This
will
be
the
visible
show
of
our
commitment.
They've
asked
quite
specifically,
and
not
this
group
in
Toronto,
but
nationwide
justice,
Sinclair
and
the
other
commissioners
brought
together.
All
of
these
recommendations
and
they've
asked
every
capital
city
to
find
a
noticeable
place
so
that
we
can
all
begin
that
process
of
reconciliation
of
reflecting
on
our
country's
past
on
the
black
eyes
that
that
we
may
have,
but
that's
in
order.
S
So
we
can
start
that
healing
I
would
like
to
first
first
thing:
a
council
fire
for
bringing
it
forward
and
giving
us
this
opportunity
and
doing
a
lot
of
the
background
work.
Finding
an
internationally-renowned,
Canadian
artist
to
design
this.
There
is
not
a
spine
on
the
back
of
that
turtle
that
doesn't
have
significant
meaning
to
reconciliation
and
counselor.
Counselor
wong-tam
did
a
good
job
of
explaining
the
significance
of
the
turtle
and
I
think
the
commitment,
82
but
or
call-to-action
82,
but
I
think
we
have
to
recognize,
and
this
is
to
councillor
Wong
times
last
point.
S
This
is
not
a
ward
27
reconciliation
effort.
This
must
be
from
our
city
from
all
of
us
from
all
of
our
residents
and
we
must
all
contribute
in
one
form
or
fashion,
and
they
have
already
figured
out
a
way
to
bring
some
resources
to
the
table.
No
doubt
they
will
figure
out
more
because
there
are
the
faith
communities
in
our
city
that
want
to
walk
along
this
path
of
reconciliation.
S
There's
a
business
community
in
our
city
that
want
to
walk
along
the
path
of
reconciliation
and
I
hope
that
all
of
you
want
to
walk
along
that
path
too.
So,
when
the
report
comes
back,
I
hope
that
were
that
that
we're
seeing
that
we
shouldn't
rely
entirely
on
a
commitments
from
one
community,
but
instead
all
of
us
I'm
just
in
in
in
closing.
This
was
not
an
easy
discussion
about
we're
on
the
square.
S
There
were
more
than
one
location
being
examined
and
councillor
Wong
Tam's
dedication
to
helping
us
solidify
what
is
both
a
significant
area,
but
as
well
as
one
that
needs
the
facelift.
That
needs
work
to
be
done
so
that
we
can
be
proud
of
our
of
our
city
hall,
and
this
will
make
it
not
only
a
significant
location
nationally,
but
I
think
that
this
continues
along
our
path
of
making
our
square
a
pride
that
we
can
show
around
the
world.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
G
Just
want
to
make
a
point
of
saying,
look
I
think
we
can
send
this
forward
for
the
consideration
that's
asked
for
here
both
in
regard
to
the
compatibility
of
this
with
the
Nathan
Phillips
Square
through
the
advisory
committee
and
also
the
feasibility
work.
That's
being
asked
to
be
done
by
our
city
staff
here
and
that
people
will
know
that
we're
going
to
get
a
report
back
answering
some.
You
know
questions
including
some
of
those
that
have
been
raised
and
I
think
the
design
work
and
so
forth.
G
The
council
a
long
time
as
she
said
herself
input
for
is
just
their
own
kind
of
idea
and,
thank
goodness,
they've
done
that
work.
So
you
can
have
an
idea
of
what
this
is,
but
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
I
think
there's
significant
upside
and
really
no
downside
to
supporting
this
recommendation
and
sending
this
forward
for
the
work
to
be
done.
The
further
further
work
can
be
done
to
determine
its
feasibility
and
compatibility
and
so
I'll
be
supporting
the
recommendation.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Thank.
D
F
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
believe
we've
already
withdrawn
the
previous
motion
on
NY
25
point
12
on
page
7,
I'd
like
to
move
a
referral
motion
to
send
it
back
to
staff
for
a
second
look
working
with
pfr,
because
there's
a
major
community
center
right
next
door
to
this
crosswalk
and
it'll
go
back
to
North
York
Community
Council
for
a
sober.
Second
look.
J
A
H
34.3
at
the
bottom
of
the
page,
I
had
a
motion.
I
just
want
to
amend
a
time,
adding
that
City
Council
advised
Metrolinx
that
a
new
Park
Longo
station
is
a
priority
for
the
C
cha,
know
and
direct
the
city
manager
of
the
and
the
deputy
city
manager,
coaster
B
to
work
with
Metrolinx
to
consider
further
feasibility
of
a
park
on
go
station
on
the
lakeshore
west
goal
quarter
to
coincide
with
their
support
potential
future
development
in
the
vicinity
and
report
back
to
City
Council
as
appropriate,
including
a
tentative
now
I
remind
you.