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City Council, meeting 34, November 7, 2017 - Part 1 of 3 - Morning Session
Agenda and background materials:
http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/decisionBodyProfile.do?function=doPrepare&meetingId=11867
Part 2 of 3 - Afternoon Session: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiGZpgvBypU#t=7m27s
Part 3 of 3 - Evening Session: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQBa9pJ8IPQ#t=3m27s
Meeting Navigation:
0:05:59 - Call to order
A
A
We
acknowledge
that
we
are
meeting
today
on
the
traditional
territory
of
the
Mississauga's
new
credit
First
Nation.
The
had
no
show
neither
Huron
when
dot
and
home
to
many
diverse
indigenous
peoples
for
the
benefit
of
those
who
are
connected
to
the
internet.
The
city
clerk
has
posted
all
of
the
agenda
materials
for
today's
meeting.
A
Toronto
dossier,
slash
council
members.
Before
we
begin
I
would
like
to
welcome
councillor
Lucy
Troisi
to
her
first
council
meeting.
A
B
Good
morning,
everyone
in
2015
the
City
of
Toronto,
joined
148
cities
across
the
world
to
sign
the
Milan
urban
food
policy
pact.
The
international
pact
recognizes
that
cities
which
host
over
half
the
world's
population
have
a
strategic
role
to
play
in
the
development
of
sustainable
food
systems
and
in
promoting
healthy
diets.
Through
the
pact,
cities
like
Toronto
are
pledging
to
work
on
developing
food
systems
that
provide
healthy
and
affordable
food
to
all
peoples
in
a
human
rights
framework,
while
minimizing
waste,
conserving
biodiversity
and
mitigating
the
impacts
of
climate
change.
B
Participants
are
Toronto
residents
living
on
a
low
income
when
Toronto
welcomed
Syrian
refugees
to
this
city.
Community
food
works
was
adapted
to
meet
the
needs
of
this
new
newcomer
community.
This
included
tailoring
and
translating
the
curriculum
and
the
introduction
of
a
peer-to-peer
model
of
program,
implementation
and
interpretation.
The
program
recognizes
the
importance
of
food
as
a
vehicle
for
settlement
and
integration
into
the
local
community.
It
does
so
through
emphasizing
employability,
fostering
social
cohesion
and
helping
to
break
down
language
and
culture
barriers.
B
Early
pilot
results
showed
that
of
the
52
initial
participants,
90
percent
acquired
food
handling,
certification
and
a
quarter
of
them
found
employment
within
three
months.
Community
Food
works
for
newcomer
settlement
could
not
happen
without
proper
support
and
collaboration
among
a
variety
of
colleagues,
both
within
city
hall
tests
that
and
I
think
some
folks
are
here
from
tests.
Toronto,
employment,
Social,
Services
and
SD
FA
as
well.
B
Social
development,
finance
and
administration
and
community
partners
and
the
community
partners
were
working
women
community
center
and
the
executive
director
is
here
a
Marcia,
a
Flemington
health
center
in
North
York
Harvest
Foodbank.
Together
we
are
showing
how
integrating
food
literacy
with
food
safety,
while
addressing
employment
as
a
determinant
of
health,
can
support
the
newcomer
settlement
journey
and
so
I
will
show
you
the
award
here
and.
A
We
do
have
a
second
presentation,
but
it's
will
have
to
wait
a
few
minutes
for
that.
Second
presentation.
I
will
now
call
for
a
motion
to
confirm
the
minutes.
Councillor
Kolya
of
emotion
on
the
minutes
from
the
last
two
meetings,
maybe
counts,
a
burnside
you
could
take
it.
Is
it
on
counter
close
desk?
A
Thank
you
on
favor
Carrie
wells
members
of
council.
We
have
the
following
administrative
inquiry
from
council
James
Pasternak
before
us.
Today:
administrative
inquiry
34.1
on
hate
sponsored
rallies
such
as
Al
Koontz
day
The
Enquirer
was
previously
deferred
at
the
October
meeting
to
provide
time
petition
staff
to
respond.
The
deputy
city
managers
answer
to
this
inquiry
was
distributed
to
members.
Yesterday
may
I
have
a
motion
to
receive
the
inquiry
and
answer
for
information
moved
by
Councillor
aljahmeir
e
favor.
A
E
Setsuko
furlough
is
a
survivor
herself
of
the
Hiroshima
and
Nagasaki
bombings
during
the
Second
World
War,
her
family
was
living
there
when
nuclear
weapons
were
deployed
on
Japan,
killing
thousands
of
innocent
people.
She
at
the
time
was
13
years
old
I
can
credit
suzuko
Setsuko
for
being
a
driving
force
in
the
fight
to
abolish
nuclear
weapons.
Since
the
launch
of
I
can
some
10
years
ago,
I
can
also
noted
that
Setsuko
has
campaigned
against
nuclear
weapons.
E
Acknowledgment
also
needs
to
be
given
to
all
of
the
campaign
supporters
around
the
globe
who
worked
tirelessly
to
fight
for
this
cause.
We
cannot
erase
history
and
tragedies
like
the
Hiroshima
and
Nagasaki
bombings,
and
they
will
never
be
forgotten.
However,
we
can
join
forces
around
the
world
to
ensure
this
never
happens
again.
Setsuko
Thurlow
and
beatrice
finn
will
accept
the
Nobel
Peace
Prize
in
Norway
on
December
the
10th
Setsuko.
E
As
you
were
deeply
humbled
to
be
receiving
this
prestigious
award
on
behalf
of
ICANN
I
know
that
that
is
true
next
month
in
Oslo
at
their
City
Hall.
We
too
are
honoured
and
privileged
to
recognize
you
for
this
achievement
right
here
at
Toronto,
City
Hall
in
the
city
that
you
call
home.
We
are
so
very
pleased
that,
since
the
1950s
you
have
called
Toronto
home,
the
City
of
Toronto
continues
to
value
the
contributions
and
the
profound
impacts
made
by
citizens.
E
F
F
This
organization,
consisting
of
the
younger
knowed
millions
of
people
from
around
the
world,
work
together
very
very
hard,
the
past
10
years,
or
so.
It's
amazing
what
this
group
has
accomplished
within
10
years
and
now
Nobel
Peace
Prize,
is
recognizing
the
accomplishment
of
this
work.
But
this
accomplishment
is
just
the
beginning
of
a
struggle.
It's
just
the
prohibition
of
nuclear
weapons.
We
want
elimination
of
all
the
nuclear
weapon.
F
So
that
means
we
have
to
continue
to
work
toward
that
goal
and
don't
just
leave
it
to
this
organization
and
many
other
organizations
each
one
of
us,
you
and
I
together
have
to
keep
working
to
achieve
that
goal.
Thank
you
again
or
the
councilors
mayor
for
this
recognition.
It's
the
question
of
life
and
death.
G
A
G
A
E
Do
madam
Speaker?
Thank
you.
They
move
that
the
report
from
meeting
28
of
the
executive
committee
listed
on
the
agenda
of
council
be
presented
for
consideration.
As
always,
we
had
a
wide
variety
of
items
that
were
before
us
and
a
number
of
members
of
council
came
to
participate
in
those
discussions
with
us
and
I'll
just
mention
a
couple
of
the
items,
one
that
is
moving
forward
and
I
think
has
a
lot
of
work
yet
to
be
done.
E
Over
the
next
20
years.
We
also
dealt
madam
Speaker
with
the
transformation
task
force
report
coming
from
the
Toronto
Police
Services.
You
know
the
Police
Services
Board
formed
the
transformational
task
force
with
the
mandate
to
determine
how
better
to
deliver
policing
services
more
effectively
and
more
efficiently.
E
But
the
primary
goal
of
these
changes
is
to
have
these
particular
responsibilities.
I
think
quite
properly
addressed
by
civilian
people
working
under
the
direction
of
the
city
government,
so
that
we
can
reduce
some
of
the
pressure
that
has
existed
in
prior
years.
As
we
ask
highly-trained,
expensive
police
officers
to
take
on
more
and
more
things.
E
This
particular
report
recommends
that
you
approve
an
agreement
between
the
TTC,
the
city
and
Metro
links,
which
will
discount
the
cost
of
transfers
between
the
TTC
and
GO
Transit
up
expressed
by
one
dollar
and
fifty
cents
per
adult
and
55
cents
per
senior
or
student
youth
passenger.
By
the
time,
the
agreement
is
fully
implemented.
The
cost
of
the
discount
to
the
province
and
the
implementation
by
the
way
will
take
place
very
early
next
year
will
be
eighteen
point:
four
million
dollars
annually
and
so
I
want
to
say
in
an
appropriately
cautious
way.
E
Thank
you
to
the
government
of
Ontario
for
the
fact
that
they've
stepped
up
and
taken
this
first
step.
I,
say
cautious.
Only
because
there's
much
more
work
to
be
done
on
the
real
goal
of
achieving
a
fair
integration
and
the
fair
integration
that
is
fair
to
the
people
of
the
City
of
Toronto
as
residents
of
this
region,
both
in
terms
of
their
own
status
as
residents
of
this
city,
but
also
in
their
relative
to
other
people
who
live
in
this
region.
E
We
now
have
the
basis
to
work
on
further
progress
on
fair
integration
going
forward
whereas
before
and
we
didn't
even
have
that
foundation,
I
believe
as
I
think
members
of
this
council
do
that
integrated
fares
are
essential
to
create
a
true
regional
transit
network,
one
that
maximizes
the
benefits
for
everybody,
but
in
particular
our
responsibility
is
to
the
people
of
the
City
of
Toronto
maximizes,
the
benefits
of
go
regional,
express
rail,
smart
track
and
all
forms
of
transit
for
the
benefit
of
Torontonians
I.
Look
forward
to
discussing
these
matters,
madam
speaker.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
H
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
that
the
report
from
meeting
10
of
the
Audit
Committee
listed
on
the
agenda
of
Council
be
presented
for
consideration,
also
take
a
quick
moment
to
thank
the
Auditor
General,
her
team
and
the
management
of
the
city
in
an
exciting
meeting
of
20
items.
I
will
also
take
a
moment
as
well
to
congratulate
councillor
Carmichael
Greb
as
being
elected,
the
vice
chair
of
the
Audit
Committee
and
thanking
councillor
Chinle
for
his
service.
H
H
There
was
also
an
audit
on
Toronto
Building
Division
conditional
permits
and
with
that
audit
signaled
to
us
is
the
future
of
having
a
consistent
set
of
criteria
to
recognize
the
need
for
a
conditional
permit
and
a
consistent
way
about
communicating
changes
in
development
charges
that
were
coming
up.
We
looked
at
the
2018
audit
plan.
We
also
looked
at
obtaining
best
value
through
vendor
rosters
and
our
vendor
roster
system.
H
We
looked
at
improving
the
effectiveness
of
basement
flooding,
protection,
subsidy
program
and
I
will
note
two
members
that
that
is
very
distinct
from
the
overall
basement
flooding
protection
program,
which
involves
the
work.
The
auditor
did
look
at
the
program
where
we
provide
these
subsidies
or
the
the
grants
to
homeowners
for
installing
such
things
as
sump
pumps
and
backwater
valves
and
what
the
future
may
hold
for
that
program.
H
We
heard
several
audit
items
on
outstanding
audits
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
look
at
those
and,
in
particular,
the
interest,
the
divisions
that
you
have
an
interest
in.
We
looked
at
several
financial
statements,
including
business
improvement
areas
and
some
of
our
agencies
and
corporations.
And
finally,
there
was
an
audit
of
the
Toronto
Transit
Commission
Accounts
Payable
functions,
which
is
a
large
volume
of
dollars
in
the
auditor,
found
some
areas
where
she
some
suggested.
Some
improvements.
H
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
to
members
that
some
of
these
audits
are
very,
very
lengthy
and
technical
in
nature
and
I'd
like
to
offer
both
myself
and
on
behalf
of
members
of
the
audit
committee
and
the
auditor.
If
you
have
any
questions
in
advance
of
hearing
these
items,
I
would
look
forward
to
helping
facilitate
getting
answers
to
you
in
an
efficient
manner
so
that
we
can
use
counsels
time
very
wisely.
Thank
you.
Thank.
I
B
Thank
you
very
much
I'm,
madam
Speaker,
that
the
report
of
meeting
22,
the
Board
of
Health,
listed
on
the
agenda
of
Council
be
presented
for
consideration.
There's
only
one
item
that
I
think
I
should
draw
two
folks
attention
and
it
is
the
only
item
on
that
council's
agenda
from
the
Board
of
Health,
and
it
really
it's
about
a
panel
that
the
province
convened
to
look
at
public
health
and
to
and
the
the
problem
with
the
report
and
why
it
is
really
really
important.
B
It's
going
to
change
the
very
heart
and
soul
of
what
public
health
does
or
the
way
Public
Health
is
structured
in
the
governmental
systems
that
we
have
now
in
place.
So
they're
working
the
provinces
working
out
the
powers
in
the
areas
of
responsibility
for
the
lenses
and
they've
asked
a
panel
to
comment
on
well,
where
does
public
health
fit
into
that?
Well
right
now
we
have
a
public
health
system
that
is
well
integrated
into
the
municipal
system
and
that
municipal
system
has
produced
a
lot
of
public
good.
B
If
you
talk
to
a
public
health
of
epidemiologists
and
people
who
work
on
population
health,
they
will
note
that
the
big
advances
in
life
expectancy
and
quality
of
life
for
folks
happens
because
of
things
like
built
form.
Things
like
making
sure
that
we
all
had
indoor
plumbing
in
the
1920s
that
didn't
come
from
the
Works
Department.
That
directive
actually
came
from
the
public
health
department
almost
a
century
ago.
We
know
in
since
amalgamation
that
public
health
has
been
very
active
on
things
that
are
directly
related
to
health
or
not,
but
are
not
primary
health.
B
The
provinces
panel
is
suggesting
that
it
be
pulled
somewhat
out
of
the
municipal
system
and
put
into
the
lens
system,
and
that
is
a
big
threat
to
how
Public
Health
operates
and
the
ability
of
Public
Health
to
do
healthy,
Public
Policy,
which
is
really
what
we
are
about
here
at
the
city.
If
you
look
at
the
things
have
been
work
on
sars.
B
The
contribution
that
that
the
restaurant
that
the
Public
Health
has
made
to
people's
health
in
terms
of
eating
the
restaurant
grading
system,
smoking
in
restaurants
active
living,
the
fair
wage
that
is
coming
forward
later
on
in
the
budget
process
with
the
TTC,
the
anti-poverty
initiatives,
food
security
issues.
Those
are
issues
that
have
been
won,
partly
because
Public
Health
added
its
voice
to
tear
it
out
of
that
system
and
put
it
in
the
Lin's
and
provincial
healthcare
system
is
bad.
Bad
structure
is
not
a
very
helpful
structure
where
they
have
done
that
elsewhere.
B
They
have
found
that
Public
Health
has
very
quickly
actually
diminished
its
role
because
you
know,
and
a
doctor
and
an
emergency
situation
will
always
win
over
a
public
health
doctor
who
is
who
is
looking
at
things
more
longitudinally
and
across
on
a
population
health
basis.
So
it's
something
that
I
think
it's
very
interesting
mo
has
written
a
very,
very
strong
position
paper
to
the
province,
saying
that
they
should
not
go
in
this
direction.
B
Every
single
board
of
health
across
the
province
that
is
commented
on
it
has
said
this
is
something
to
be
rejected
and
also
the
association
of
local
health
authorities
in
Toronto
in
Ontario
have
said
that
this
is
not
something
to
be
supported
and
today,
we're
being
invited
to
add
our
voice
to
that
that
chorus.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I'm,
not
holding
it,
but
I.
Just
thought.
I
should
alert
you
and
speak
now.
Rather
than
later.
Thanks.
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
that
the
report
from
meeting
23
of
the
Community,
Development
and
Recreation
Committee
listed
on
the
agenda
of
council
we
could
presented
for
consideration.
I
would
simply
bring
to
your
attention
the
issues
of
child
care,
the
tenant,
defense
fund
and
managing
refugee
flows,
and
if
you
connect
the
dots
and
look
very
closely
at
these
issues,
you
can
see
that
most
of
them
are
not
in
municipal
jurisdiction,
but
I've
become
over
time
or
becoming
increasingly
municipal
jurisdiction.
C
Clearly,
the
continuum
of
care
and
education
is
under
the
it's
carried
primarily
under
the
Education
Act,
which
clearly
is
provincial
jurisdiction.
The
tenant
defense
fund
is
under
the
register,
Residential
Tenancies
Act,
which
is
clearly
provincial
jurisdiction,
but
we're
more
involved
and,
of
course,
managing
refugee
flows,
which
is
a
major
emerging
issue.
That's
in
growing
increasingly
expensive.
The
report
before
you
ask
for
another
20
million
dollars
to
handle
in
our
shelter
system
the
growing
surge
of
refugees.
C
Well,
we
welcome
all
these
policy
initiatives
from
our
other
counterparts
at
both
the
provincial
and
federal
level,
the
sustainability
and
quality
of
them,
even
if
the
existing
transfers
are
up
to
a
level
that
can
handle
these
programs
the
long
term
ability
of
the
city
to
manage
more
and
more
public
policy
issues
that
are
coming
from
the
above
or
other
levels
of
government
is
clearly
in
question.
How
big
a
government
do
we
really
need
here?
C
How
big
a
government
will
it
take
to
make
sure
these
programs
are
managed
and
implemented
properly,
and
can
we
rely
on
future
governments
that
change
either
in
Ottawa
or
Queens
Park,
to
make
sure
that
the
transfers
to
sustain
these
programs
are
done
at
a
level?
That's
acceptable.
You'll
also
notice,
a
motion
that
was
passed
at
CDR,
which
which
I
supported
working
or
hypothetically
working
towards
a
$10
per
day
day
care
cost.
C
This
was
taken
primarily
from
the
Quebec
model,
I
think
it's
an
unrealistic
goal
and
may
give
false
false
hope
and
false
promises
to
across
our
great
city.
The
Quebec
situation
is
quite
different
than
Toronto
and
Ontario.
The
low
cost
of
daycare
there
was
backstop
by
massive
tax
increases,
both
indirect
taxation
and
income
tax
increases
and
it
was
came
to
power,
came,
came
to
fruition
as
a
public
policy
from
from
nationalist
movement.
So
those
are
those
are
issues
to
consider
as
we
go
forward
and
I
look
forward
to
discussions.
C
I
K
I
sure
do
that
the
report
from
meeting
24
of
the
Economic
Development
Committee
listed
on
the
agenda
of
Council
be
presented
for
consideration.
We
have
like
three
items
that
came
forward
to
council
from
this
last
meeting
of
Economic
Development,
but
the
one
that
I'm
gonna
highlight
is
probably
the
most
important
one
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
is
in
regards
to
the
economic
and
social
impacts
of
unaccessible
high
quality
childcare
system
in
Toronto
and
we'd.
A
G
N
Most
certainly
do
madam
Speaker.
That's
the
report
from
meeting
23.
The
planning
of
growth
management
committee
listed
on
the
agenda
Council
be
presented
for
consideration.
As
my
colleagues
know,
I
have
a
monthly
comment
or
a
report
on
the
number
of
affordable
housing
units
in
my
colleague,
councillor
cressie
has
asked
me,
and
he
was
right
to
point
out
one
in
his
area
that
we
didn't
to
reach
the
include
entire
list,
so
we
did
in
approving
today
3085
affordable
housing
units.
N
Changes
are
coming,
I
am
believing
that
changes
are
coming
and
it's
long
about
time.
So
a
number
of
the
amendments
were
and
consideration
throughout
the
committee
and
one
of
the
most
important
ones
they
are
along
with
others
is
the
fact
that
they
won't
be
any
de
novo
hearings
and
could
always
confuse
me.
What
is
the
novo
mean?
Well,
it
really
means
whatever
you've
done
doesn't
matter.
It
starts
again,
and
every
development
can
start
afresh
with
a
whole
new
application
and
a
whole
new
design
by
whoever's
there.
N
So
that
is
one
of
the
very
positive
aspects
that's
going
forward.
In
other
words,
what
the
application
is
is
what
you
can
see
consider
there
are
quite
a
number
of
other
changes,
but
I
will
also
tell
you
that,
with
all
of
that
responsibility
coming
to
us
in
Council
and
councils
across
the
province,
we're
gonna
have
to
work
harder
to
make
sure
that
each
of
our
colleagues
when
they're
reviewing
a
development,
an
application,
is
one
that
we
understand
when
it
comes
here
and
it's
fair
and
reasonable,
because
more
of
that
responsibility
will
be
resting
with
us.
N
The
Toronto
green
standards,
great,
it's
a
change.
It's
trying
to
get
us
to
achieve
near
zero
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
2030
on
new
buildings.
It's
a
wonderful
thing
because
we're
staying
changing
our
standards,
that's
something
we
have
to
encourage
people
to
continue
to
go
along
with
the.
We
can
continue
to
be
leaders
in
that
field.
So
those
are
the
issues
that
are
there.
There
was
one
other
item
that
isn't
here,
I'm
sure
you'll
probably
hear
about
it
after
which
is
the
Portland
framework.
A
O
The
first
word:
the
award
they
won
was
a
gold
one
and
it
was
for
it
was
related
to
the
management
systems
category
and
for
long,
our
long
term,
waste
management
strategy
which
we
approved
as
a
council
months
back,
and
this
is
an
important
roadmap
and
it
was
clearly
thought
of
as
an
excellent
roadmap
by
this
association.
The
second
award
we
won
was
a
bronze
award
in
the
landfill
management
category
for
Greenland
Green
Lane
landfill,
the
city's
state-of-the-art
facility
that
uses
innovative
technologies
to
provide
safe,
effective
and
environmentally
sustainable
disposable
of
Toronto's
residual
wastes.
O
So
these
are
great
awards.
We've
been
recognized
across
our
nation,
so
my
congratulations
and
all
of
counsels.
Congratulations
to
the
solid
waste
management
services
for
these
amazing
honors
Public
Works
was
a
very
long
meeting
in
October,
very
productive.
We
talked
about
on-street
electrical
vehicle
charging
station
pilot
and
the
working
group
will
continue
to
address
the
availability
of
charging
stations,
the
impact
on
our
our
grid
and
the
development
of
electric
vehicle
friendly
policies.
O
Certainly
I
think
most
of
us
agree
that
we
need
to
be
leaders
on
this
on
this
issue.
Getting
this
infrastructure
in
place
and
this
one
year,
eval
evaluation
pilot
will
actually
give
us
an
opportunity
to
figure
out
how
to
best
encourage
electric
vehicles
in
Toronto.
We
also
talked
about
improving
accountability
in
the
utility
cut
process.
I
know
a
lot
of
my
residents
have
emailed
me
about
this
over
the
years
and
making
sure
that
we
have
better
restoration
processes
in
place
so
hallelujah.
O
The
report
is
here
we're
moving
for
with
a
long-awaited
update
on
this
improvements
to
the
utility
cut
process
will
allow
for
permanent
pavement
route
treatments
immediately
rather
than
waiting
for
a
freeze
cycle,
a
Foss
ichael,
so
rather
than
disrupting
our
poor
residents
with
this
temporary
and
then
permanent
repair
we'll
be
going
right
to
the
permanent,
because
the
temporary
has
actually
been
very
challenging
to
traverse
as
well
as
aesthetically
I'm
pleasing.
So
this
is
a
great
news
for
the
city
and
this
report
is
before
us.
O
They
also
also
want
to
let
you
know
that
it'll
create
efficiencies
and
a
reduction
in
overall
costs
in
the
process.
Last
we
talked
about
the
blower
bike
lanes,
which
is
a
before
us
today
and
I
know.
There's
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
who
have
questions
on
this
issue.
So
we'll
look
forward
to
that
debate
later
today.
G
D
G
B
J
A
G
M
M
Actually,
why
don't
I
just
read
the
motion
we'll
start
off
with
that
that
the
report
from
meeting
27
of
the
Toronto
assur
Community
Council,
listed
on
Genda
of
council
be
presented
for
consideration
and
also
just
to
say
thank
you
to
the
clerk's
who
helped
us
deal
with
97
items
at
tu
ICC
and
just
to
reflect
and
compare
that
to
perhaps
Scarborough
community
council
who
dealt
with
24
North,
York,
Community
Council,
who
administered
and
does
Shepherd
36
items
and,
of
course,
a
topical
York
with
44
items.
Thank
You.
P
G
I
A
G
N
E
E
This
could
could
have
an
effect
on
them
in
terms
of
utility
cuts.
The
second
is
item.
Thirty,
four
point:
eleven,
the
request
to
reinstate
the
Rogers
community
television
channel,
the
same
reason
and
then
the
second
one.
Second
is
item:
CC
34.7,
5565,
broadway,
avenue
zoning
amendment
application
request
for
further
direction
regarding
an
OMB
hearing
and
I'm
declaring
that
interests
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution,
because
my
mother
owns
a
unit
in
the
property,
that's
adjacent.
Thank
you.
Thank.
P
P
I
D
B
G
A
You
members
I,
would
not
review
the
order
paper.
We
have
two
deferred
committee
items
on
this
agenda:
PG
21.6
on
the
darren,
wilson
regeneration
area,
study,
city,
initiated
official
plan,
amendment
final
report
and
ey
23.73
on
draft
approve
of
condominium,
25,
22,
25
40,
to
kill
street
integrity,
transparency,
accountability
and
fairness
in
the
planning
process.
There
is
a
related
item
on
the
agenda:
Eve
Y
25.4
that
are
proposed
to
be
considered
with
deferred
item
ey
23.73.
A
A
D
O
F
O
P
I
I
S
T
Items
on
page
8,
rather
than
hold
the
item,
I
just
wanted
to
add,
is
st
fourteen
point,
one
for
appointment
of
council
members
to
the
Royal
Agricultural
Winter
Fair
I'd,
just
like
to
congratulate
councillor
Carmichael
grab
on
her
appointment.
This
frees
me
up
to
compete
in
their
amateur
pickling
and
jam
competition
of
which
this
year,
I
won
a
seventh
place.
Purple
ribbon
for
my
zucchini
relish.
G
A
I
C
T
A
K
H
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
would
like
to
hold
NY
twenty
five
point.
Three
six
requests
to
qualify
as
a
non
not-for-profit
resident
group,
Willowdale
group
of
artists
and
I
would
also
like
simply
a
recorded
vote
on
NY
twenty
five
point:
three
final
report:
zoning
amendment,
application,
1580,
Avenue,
Road.
A
I
I
A
H
I
A
A
G
A
G
E
T
I
I
A
M
A
R
H
H
Q
H
Thank
You
speaker
I'm,
just
flipping
to
the
Audit
Committee
on
the
page
here
page
number,
five
I'd
like
to
time
a
couple
of
the
audit
committee
items
for
the
first
thing
tomorrow
morning,
I'm
going
to
propose
that
au
10.2.
Ten
point
three
and
ten
point:
four:
all
referring
to
the
MLS
audits
be
time
for
first
thing
in
the
morning
followed
by
the
Auditor
General's
review
of
complaint
regarding
the
June
29
2016
Toronto,
Transit,
Commission
briefing,
note,
au
10.11,.
A
I
I
G
Well,
since
Wednesday's
taken
up
already
I'll
go
for
Thursday
morning,
even
though
you
don't
want
to
be
here
uh-huh,
so
that
would
be
the
park
so
I'm
just
trying
to
find
it
now.
It's
the
executive
parks
facilities,
master
plan,
which
is
sorry
IX
28.2
parks
and
recreation
facilities,
master
plan,
because
we
have
consultants
and
we
don't
want
them
to
sit
around
listening
to
us
per
day
in
day
out
no
counter
mic.
Man.
I
didn't
hear
you
want
to
time
to
item
Thursday
at
9:30
there
since
two
miles
taken.
Oh
that's
on
page
three
yeah.
A
A
J
A
Heute
counts
are
to
marry.
Thank
you.
Okay,
members
of
council
I
want
to
stress
the
importance
of
preparing
your
motions
in
advance.
The
clerk
staff
are
here
to
help
you
prepare
your
motions
in
particular,
if
you'll
intend
to
move
a
motion
during
the
release
of
Holt's
I
will
insist
that
your
motion
be
prepared
in
advance
and
given
to
the
clerk.
If
okay
members
of
council,
please
counsel
Carol,.
A
If
you
do
not
have
your
motion
ready,
I
will
not
recognize
you
and
I'm,
also
reminding
members
that
you
must
state
your
motion.
First
before
you
speak
to
it
remember,
city
council
follows
a
routine
for
the
processing
and
adding
of
any
motions
without
nerd
notice
during
the
meeting.
Please
remember
that
emotion
without
notice
must
include
a
recent
version,
see
if
you
have
an
urgent
motion
without
notice.
You
wish
to
bring
forward
at
this
meeting.
Please
give
your
motion
to
the
city
clerk
staff.
They
will
prepare
the
net
necessary
procedure
motion
for
my
review.
A
Along
with
your
motion,
the
chair
must
agree.
The
motion
is
urgent.
Before
you
can
seek
leave
to
introduce
it
at
this
meeting,
it
will
require
30
votes
to
add
emotion
without
notice
to
the
agenda
during
the
meeting.
Motions
added
to
the
agenda
in
this
way
are
not
subject
to
a
vote.
To
waive
referral
to
a
committee
or
agency
I
will
be
reviewing
all
motions
carefully
and
will
vice
counsel
at
each
recess,
which
motions
need
a
motion
to
add
to
the
agenda.
A
A
A
A
Q
Question
is
so
on.
On
page
2
of
the
report.
It
refers
to
full-year
revenues.
Well,
there
will
be
paid
by
the
province
of
eleven
and
a
half
million.
An
eleven
point,
eight
million-
and
my
question
is
at
what
point
will
the
revenues
that
are
that
are
that
the
TTC
does
not
take
in
on
any
given
day?
Will
they
be
paid
back
to
the
TTC,
quarterly
monthly
semi-annually
councillor.
A
Q
Q
Monthly
basis
and
have
we
discussed
as
I
again
as
I
Arthur,
you
know
you
I've
asked
this
question
at
the
TTC
I'll.
Ask
it
again
now:
have
we
discussed
a
situation
where
the
where
the
the
presto
card
holder
would
pay
the
full
fare
to
the
TTC,
but
upon
tapping
on
to
the
TTC
would
receive
a
discount
to
their
account
rather
than
rather
than
the
TTC
not
receiving
the
money
from
the
presto
card.
R
R
Between
the
other
municipalities
and
go,
it
would
be
exactly
the
same
as
the
as
what
is
the
fall
council
today
in
terms
of
a
discounted
rate,
is
charged.
The
other
municipal
agencies
have
their
own
agreements
in
place
where
the
rather
than
being
a
discounted
rate,
it's
there
is
no
charge
when
you're
transferring
between
one
municipality
and
another
transit
agency.
So.
Q
R
E
S
S
S
I
S
R
Don't
believe
that
they
have
stated
that
so
far,
I
believe
that
there
and
they
they
have
explored
that
in
great
detail
and
believe
that
that
is
where
that
they
would.
They
think
that
there
is
the
greatest
potential
to
increase
ridership
and
revenue,
but
there
they
agree
with
our
perspective
and
other
municipal
agencies
that
there
are
some
significant
operational
considerations
that
need
to
be
assessed
before
that.
That
change
could
be
made
right.
S
But
in
their
presentation
there's
about
four
places
where
they
talk
about
going
in
that
direction
and
and
talk
about
it
being
there,
they
don't
use
the
word
preferred
option,
but
it
sounds
like
that
is
the
direction
they're
going.
I
guess
I'm
just
asking
if
that's
a
fair
assessment
in
your
opinion,
I.
R
Is
it
it
is,
and
it
has
been
communicated
through
me
directly
through
the
sessions
that
we've
been
having
with
Metro
links
and
the
other
municipal
agencies
over
the
last
two
years
and
will
continue
through
the
specific
working
groups
that
are
being
set
up
at
the
moment
to
focus
on
each
of
the
step-by-step
information
implementation
options
that
have
been
set
out
by
Metro
links.
It's.
S
S
How
is
the
decision-making
going
to
roll
out
and
what
is
the
role
for
the
elected
officials
in
the
City
of
Toronto
or
the
TTC
commission
that
has
legislative
authority
to
set
fares
within
the
TTC
system?
Where
are
those
and
how
are
we
decisions
taking
place
and
how
are
we
going
to
be
involved
in
them?
I
think.
R
T
K
T
Other
municipalities
can
you
date
back
when
the
first
request
was
made
by
this
chamber?
Would
it
require
carbon
dating
I'm?
Sorry,
I.
Don't
have
that
date,
you
don't
have
that
that
nature,
but
it's
safe
to
save
the
past.
Several
terms
of
counsel
have
been
asking
for
a
similar
arrangement.
That's
what
did
the
other
jurisdictions
they
didn't
have
presto
before
the
City
of
Toronto
on
their
local
transit
systems.
Did
they.
R
T
T
K
For
how
this
will
happen,
remove
the
speaker,
we
don't
have
a
firm
schedule
from
Metrolinx
on
on
further
steps
on
fair
integration.
They
are
consulting
on
fair
integration
and
some
of
the
materials
that
their
board
considered
through
broader
consultations
on
the
regional
transportation
plan
at
present,
and
we
do
expect
that
further
they
may
be
making
further
or
taking
further
action
over
the
next
several
months
before
the
the
provincial
election.
Okay,.
K
Per
kilometer
through
the
through
the
speaker,
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
can
say
that
they're
the
highest
cost
per
kilometer,
but
with
what
we
did
show
in
in
July
in
our
paper
in
July,
on
fair
integration
that
that
they
are
disproportionately
from
some
of
the
stations
we
examined,
they're
disproportionately
high
and
that
that
residents
in
Toronto
pay
more
per
kilometer.
In
general.
K
T
T
Inc
Metrolinx
right,
perhaps
I'll
rephrase
the
question
and
and
say
in
the
modeling
that
we've
done
around
the
success
of
smart
track
and
re
are
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
the
most
successful
model
that
we
have
has
the
GO
train
at
the
the
re,
our
smart
track,
TTC
cost
as
one
fare
and
that's
the
TTC
fare
through
the
speaker.
You
are
correct.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
I
O
Yes-Man
speaker,
my
question,
is,
is
to
do
with
the
TTC
terms
and
similar
to
councillor
Layton's
questions.
I
was
concerned
with
what's
the
timing
of
future
reviews,
because
this
is
really
sort
of
a
first
step
and
the
triggers
for
review
of
agreement.
It
has
the
2020
review.
If,
if
the
whole
thing
is
fully
operational
by
then
they'll,
then
be
a
review
in
2020
am
I.
Reading
that
right,
the
review
will
happen
regardless.
So
the.
R
O
That
makes
me
feel
better.
Is
there
a
concern
I
note
that
it
says
that
the
TTC
introduces
a
fare
increase
during
the
term
of
the
agreement
agreement?
Then
the
the
the
initiative
gets
revisited,
but
will
we
be
allowed
to
advocate
at
that
point?
You
know,
make
us
whole
if
we've
had
to
do
a
fare
increase
we'll
have
to
make
our
case
for
why
it
is
we're
doing
a
fare
increase,
but
then
the
fare
integration,
credit
piece
would
would
be
adjusted
to
continue
to
make
us
whole.
R
O
R
A
T
You
very
much
madam
Speaker
I
have
an
advance
circulated,
emotion
that
City
Council
direct
the
city
manager
to
request
Metrolinx
in
the
Toronto
Transit
Commission
to
accelerate
their
plans
for
full,
afford
and
affordable
fare
integration
for
the
City
of
Toronto,
including
a
single
fare
for
rides
within
the
City
of
Toronto,
and
to
report
back
to
City
Council
there.
This
has
been
many
many
years
in
the
coming
and
I
celebrate
Metrolinx
and
the
TTC
for
coming
forward
with
this
report,
but
I
would
challenge
them
that
it
doesn't
go
far
enough.
T
Essentially,
we
went
from
an
eighth
dollar
fare
to
get
from
Liberty
Village,
which
employs
15
15
thousand
people,
15
thousand
people
living
there
as
well.
We're
charging
them
650
instead
of
8
box
to
get
from
from
Liberty
Village
down
to
Union,
Station
and
or
on
at
Union
Station.
That's
a
that's
still
too
much.
If
we
want
the
RER
smart
chalk,
whatever
you
call
it.
If
we
want
this
service
the
surface
transit
system,
to
work
to
its
most
effective
level,
we
need
to
draw
people
on
to
that
and
we
know
from
our
modeling.
T
What
does
that
is
an
affordable
one?
Fare
system
for
the
City
of
Toronto
I,
don't
think
that
this
council
chamber
will
support
a
set
different
fare
coming
from
Scarborough,
a
different
fare
coming
from
Etobicoke
and
a
different
fare
coming
from
North
York,
and
don't
get
me
wrong
that
fare
by
distance
probably
stands
to
benefit
the
residents
of
Trinity
spine
in
my
neighborhood
in
Liberty
Village,
but
I.
Think
and
I
speak
on
behalf
of
them
as
they've
elected
me.
T
That
I
don't
think
they
think
that
would
be
right
that
we
should
be
having
different
fares
coming
from
different
parts
of
the
city
of
Toronto.
We
are
one
city:
let's
have
one
fare
and
let's
make
this
whatever
you
call
it
system
that
we
have
on
surface
transit
planning
that
we're
going
down
work
for
the
City
of
Toronto.
It
may
require
us
to
pay
more,
both
in
the
fare
box,
as
well
as
from
the
tax
base
it
very
well
may,
and
that
we
should
have
that
debate.
We
should
have
that
debate
sooner
rather
than
later.
T
It
has
been
six
years
since,
since
we
first
started
or
or
since
last
council
started
bringing
into
the
language
of
fair
integration.
I
am
sure
colleagues
of
ours
had
been
doing
this
for
a
decade
before
that.
It's
not
fair
that
other
municipalities
were
getting
a
CO
fare
system
where
they
were
charging
60
cents
to
riders
of
their
system
that
got
off
the
go.
T
It's
not
fair
and
I'm
happy
that
we
have
this
before
us
now,
but
I
challenged
again
that
we're
not
going
far
enough
and
that
that
fare
should
be
a
single
fare
system
for
the
City
of
Toronto,
to
make
it
fair
to
make
it
fair
for
everyone,
but
as
well
to
make
our
next
system
work.
We
already
know
it'll
it'll
only
work,
and/or
a
work
better
and
have
more
riders.
T
Q
T
T
Let's
pretend
that
I
do
I
walk
down
to
the
Exhibition
Place,
a
GO
train
station
I
hop
on
go
to
Union,
because
I
work
up
in
in
North
York
that
trip
that
seven-minute
ride
on
the
on
the
go
train
and
then
the
the
trip
from
Union
up
to
whatever
stop
at
North
York
North
York
Civic
Center.
That
should
be
one
fair,
I
believe
now,
if
you're
getting
on
and
then
riding
outside
of
the
system
that
the
brilliance
of
presto,
if,
if
we
are
to
call
it
brilliant
at
any
point
in
time,
which
probably
won't
happen.
T
Go
that
far
is
that
you
can
have
that
tap
on
and
tap
off
and
you
can
travel
on
multiple
systems.
I
would
just
say
that
you
shouldn't
charge
a
different
amount
to
someone
coming
downtown
from
Etobicoke,
as
you
would
someone
going
from
downtown
to
downtown
or
from
Etobicoke
to
another
Etobicoke
station
that
that
fare
should
be
one
so.
Q
T
Q
Toronto
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
okay,
so
then
the
other
question
cuz
I
mean
IIIi.
Think
this
is
a
great
idea.
I
applaud
the
motion.
I
just
was
wish.
It
was
more
specific
because
what
does
affordable
mean
so
you're
asking
the
city
manager
to
and
the
head
of
Metrolinx
to
make
a
determination
as
to
what's
affordable,
I.
T
I
P
Flexure
I'm
just
trying
to
determine
a
counselor
with
all
of
the
new
transit,
that's
being
built,
the
smart
track,
Eglinton
crosstown
and
particularly
the
smart
track
six
stations
that
members
of
my
community
and
members
of
your
community
will
be
able
to
get
on
our
as
well
as
those
up
on
the
stove
align.
The
other
lines
are
you
concerned
that
this
will
introduce
another
fair
or
that
it
would
be
difficult
to
get
people
to
cross
over
if
they're,
paying
more
money?
Well,.
T
I
think
that
the
preliminary
findings
of
some
of
the
reports
that
staff
have
done
for
us
around
our
ER
and
smart
track
really
do
point
to
a
single
fare
that
is,
is
equivalent
to
a
TTC
fare
in
order
to
increase
ridership.
The
only
way
that
we
are
going
to
reduce
congestion
in
our
city
is
increasing
transit
ridership.
If
that's
the
goal
of
our
er
and
smart
track
and
our
TTC
working
together
as
a
public
transit
system,
then
we
should.
P
T
P
P
T
T
We
need
to
make
it
clear
to
Metrolinx
what
our
expectation
is
in
this
discussion.
Maybe
it's
a
starting
point.
Maybe
we're
standing
firm,
I
trust
that
our
city
manager
will
have
the
best
interest
of
of
this
council
in
mind
when
he
approaches
the
province
and,
quite
frankly,
that
the
mayor
will
work
to
try
to
make
our
er
smart
jock
work
in
our
city
simply
because
he's
ran
on
this
and
it's
his
his
legacy
that
he's
leaving
the
city
I
think
he
wants
to
see
it
work.
H
You,
madam
Speaker,
through
to
councillor
Layton
I,
want
to
get
my
head
wrapped
around
the
intent
of
the
motion
as
it
applies
to
say
somebody
that
lives
in
the
West
End,
so
councillor
Layton.
If
I
can
just
lay
out
the
example.
If
I
take
the
the
the
Metrolink
strain
from
Kipling
go
station
into
Union,
Station
I
think
I
just
checked
it's
five
dollars
and
60
cents.
If
I
remember
the
ride
is
about
20
minutes
depending
on
traffic.
In
the
morning,
I
can
spend
325
and
I
can
take
the
subway
from
the
same
station.
H
H
It
so
to
keep
things
equal
and
assuming
that
the
cost
of
the
Train
is
a
little
bit
more
than
the
unit
cost
of
the
subway.
Does
that
mean
that
TTC
fares
would
also
rise,
so
it
may
not
be
3:25
and
anymore,
it
may
actually
be
a
higher
number,
and
maybe
the
fare
of
the
GO
train
will
go
down
in
order
to
harmonize
it.
Is
that
okay
is
that,
okay,
that
the
TTC
fare
will
then
go
up
so.
T
Sadly,
because
because
this
chamber,
over
the
last
several
decades,
has
decided
not
to
fund
transit
from
the
tax
base
and
instead
rely
on
the
rate
base,
fares
are
going
up.
Anyhow,
fares
will
continue
to
rise.
This
will
be
an
answer
or
the
answer
to
that
question
about
whether
or
not
this
will
involve
a
direct
increase
in
the
price
of
transit
will
will
entirely
depend
on
what
the
province
does
with
their
with
their
subsidy
to
transit
fares,
as
well
as
with
what
this
chamber
does
with
our
subsidy
to
transit
fares.
T
But
what
I
don't
think
it's
fair
and
why
I
say
it
should
be
the
same
cost
if
you
live
in
a
Tobago
as
if
you
live
in
Liberty
Village
is
because
I
don't
think
what
we
want
to
do
is
start
to
discourage
ridership,
because
it's
more
expensive
to
travel
from
a
further
distance,
for
instance
north
to
tobiko
and
and
take
that,
take
that
that
train
down,
rather
than
spend
forty
minutes
on
the
subway
I,
think
that
we
need
to
set
a
principle
that
it's
one
City.
It's
one
fair.
We
all
get
treated
equally
here,
but.
H
You
didn't
answer
the
question
in
terms
of
this
motion.
Does
this
motion
then
give
the
effect
that
the
TTC
fare
is
going
to
have
to
go
up,
though,
regardless
of
the
funding,
because
that's
all
going
on
whether
or
not
you
place
the
motion,
but
the
motion
to
harmonize
the
fares
could
cause
the
TTC
could
give
effect
for
the
TTC
fare
to
go
up.
Is
that
correct,
I.
T
D
Thank
you,
Speaker
I,
calculate
I,
know.
You've
been
working
on
this
a
while
and
you're
kind
of
the
same
bold
eye
of
Liberty
Village
with,
however
big
shores
to
music
exploded.
I
mean:
can
we
wait
for
smart
track
to
come
in
in
your
mind,
I
know,
as
your
essence
would
accelerate
the
plans.
Can
we
wait
what
to
do
something
now
in
your
mind,
so.
T
Presto
has
offered
us
an
opportunity
to
test
some
of
the
theories
that
staff
are
right
now,
writing
reports
and
developing
theories
on
themselves.
Why?
Wouldn't
we
start
to
play
around
with
fairs
to
see
what
would
it
take
to
get
people
out
of
their
cars
off,
of
the
Bloor
line
and
onto
the
the
lakes,
in
this
case
the
lakeshore
West
line,
but
also
the
Georgetown
line
that
runs
up
through
councilor
bylaws
and
councillor
Nunziata
and
councillor
de
Georgio's
Ward?
What
would
it
take?
We've
got
a
live
in
living
laboratory.
D
T
T
I
I
We
need
my
clarification
is
yeah,
pretty
clear
with
that.
My
my
question
is:
is:
is
whether
or
not
this
thing
should
should
even
exist?
This
motion,
or
whether
it
should
be
replaced
with
a
motion
that
suggests
that
Metrolinx
take-home
takes
over
the
whole
system,
TTC
and
and
just
allow
the
province
to
run
a
system
for
everybody?
Well,.
I
T
Those
two
in
subsidies-
counselor,
I
I-
don't
have
an
answer
to
that
about
the
amount,
because
I
don't
think
it's
clear
what
that
would
cost.
We
are
in
a
negotiation
with
another
level
of
government
around
what
the
what
the
fare
subsidy
would
be
and
what
the
financial
relationship
will
be
between
the
city
and
Metro
links
and
I.
Think
that
that's
that
that's
a
very
good
question
and
one
that
I
think
the
city
manager
would
bring
back
to
us
as
a
result
of
those
negotiations,
as
well
as
a
strategy
to
pay
for
it.
T
I
By
distance
appreciate
you
telling
me
what
my
residents
would
want,
but
I
can
I
can
tell
you
unequivocally
that
my
residents
do
not
want
this
motion
to
go
through
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
One
there
will
be
a
cost
to
the
taxpayer
and
two.
They
don't
want
to
pay
any
more
money
to
come.
Downtown,
bye-bye-bye,
TTC,
okay,.
A
E
I
S
S
It's
very
important
in
councilor,
Layton's
Ward,
it's
very
important
in
my
ward
as
councillor
McMahon
will
confirm
that
we
have
the
main
subway
station
across
the
road
from
the
Danforth
go
and
we
need
to
ensure,
as
a
certainly
an
interim
step,
for
downtown
relief
to
encourage
people
to
get
on
that
GO
train.
But
right
now
there
is
no
incentive
to
do
that.
We
will
see
if
the
dollar
50
co-payment
will
increase
those
people
who
are
willing
to
make
that
connection.
S
I
will
be
supporting
the
recommendation
before
us.
The
agreement
is
for
two
years.
It
means
that,
though,
any
time
there
are
fare
changes
anytime.
The
revenue
assumptions
are
not
what
the
provincial
government
expected
that
they
will
all
be
renegotiated,
so
it
is
a
loose
agreement
that
can
also
be
cancelled
with
90
days
notice.
So
it
is
an
exploratory
next
step
and
it
will
obviously
move
us
forward
to
getting
a
more
integrated
approach,
but
one
of
the
big
issues
even
identified
in
this
report.
S
We
have
seen
that
Metro
links
over
the
last
several
years
has
made
decision-making
made
decisions
behind
closed
doors
decisions
that
have
been
politically
motivated.
We
have
seen
how
the
provincial
government
that
seems
to
act
with
the
shortest
arm
to
this
arms-length
agency
imaginable
has
made
decisions
that
have
not
been
necessarily
in
the
interest
of
our
city.
We
have
talked
for
many
years
and
councillor
Holliday.
We
have
discussed
governance
changes
for
many
years,
but
we
have
never
actually
taken
the
time
or
begun
to
discuss
what
that
might
look
like.
S
They
simply
asked
the
city
manager
to
bring
back
to
us
something
that
ensures
that
when
we
invest
in
a
more
integrated
regional
system,
we
have
a
voice
right
now.
That
voice
is
a
panel
of
citizens
appointed
by
the
provincial
government
and,
while
I
know
that
the
challenge
of
having
political
representation
on
a
regional
body
is.
S
We
are
going
to
operate
those
LRT
s.
We
are
going
to
be
paying
100
percent
for
the
smart
track
stations.
All
of
these
things
integrate
us
in
a
way
that
requires
us
to
have
a
stronger
voice
in
this
regional
network
when
it
comes
to
governance
and
I
believe
we
need
to
begin
to
lead
that
discussion
instead
of
leaving
it
to
Metrolinx
and
the
provincial
government.
Thank
you.
Thank.
Q
A
Q
Q
S
If
you
would
look
at
page
nine
in
the
attached
document
that,
in
our
report,
Metrolinx
itself
recognizes
a
need
for
a
new
governance
model,
we
recently
had
a
briefing
for
Metrolinx
on
their
next
five-year
plan.
What
is
that
the
end
is
one
of
their
priorities:
I
need
to
review
the
governance
model.
The
question
is:
who
is
going
to
develop,
that?
What
are
the
various
ways
that
the
things
we
should
be
looking
at?
This
simply
asks
our
city
manager
to
give
us
some
accounts.
P
Thank
you,
a
speaker
I'm
just
going
to
strongly
support
councillor
Layton's
motion
here
and
for
the
very
reasons
that
I
was
getting
to.
In
my
questioning
and
in
particular,
we
are
embarking
on
a
very
ambitious
transit
plan,
with
metro
links
and
trends,
a
very
a
transit
plan
that
would
have
all
of
our
TTC
vehicles
and
TTC
routes
touch
base
with
the
goal
system,
and
we
are
indeed
going
to
be
building
six
new
stations.
P
We
here
in
this
council
have
agreed
or
are
in
the
process
of
agreeing
to
building
six
new
stations
on
the
goal
line,
which
would
mean
that
all
of
those
residents,
all
of
those
commuters
that
are
touching
that
go
station,
would
have
an
option
to
stay
on
the
TTC
or
to
get
off
and
move
on
the
go
line
and
the
RER
at
a
smart
track
station.
And
so
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
that
we
can't
price
our
commuters
out
of
the
market.
P
They
have
to
be
able
to
want
to
get
on
stations
that
we're
building.
They
have
to
feel
like
that.
This
is
a
useful
thing
for
them
and
I
don't
want
to
see
empty
stations
or
people
not
riding
on
these.
These
on
the
RER
on
the
go
line
going
to
our
smart
track
stations
because
they
think
it's
too
much
money.
So
this
is
the
part.
This
is
the
part
that
we
have
now
come
to
after
I
think
it's
11
to
a
number
of
months.
P
Anyway,
maybe
two
years
going
on
three
years,
where
we've
been
discussing
the
matter,
smart
track
stations,
how
we're
going
to
integrate.
Only
now
are
we
talking
about
the
money
sides,
the
people
that
ride
our
transit,
the
people
that
ride
the
goal
lines,
the
people
that
ride
TTC
and
how
they're
going
to
make
a
smooth
connection
between
one
system
to
another,
not
by
increasing
how
much
they're
going
to
pay
overall,
because
we
know
that
will
have
a
negative
impact
and
we
have
a
very
robust
poverty
reduction
strategy.
P
We
have
to
get
people
to
their
jobs
and
I'm
very
concerned
that
this
is
only
coming
up
now
and
I'm
glad
the
councillor
Layton
made
this
motion
talking
about
an
affordable
fare
integration
for
two
systems,
because
we
are
building
we're
integrating
with
another
system
on
the
goal
line,
and
also
we
have
to
take
into
account
that
we
are
also
paying
for
those
stations.
So
if
we
don't
have
a
clear
direction
that
we're
going
to
give
to
the
city
manager
and
others
in
these
conversations
with
Metro
links,
that
would
be
unfortunate.
R
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I'm.
Also
writing
to
put
my
strong
support
behind
councillor
Layton's
motion
I.
Think
it's
fairly
important
for
us
to
recognize
that
some
of
the
long
rights
that
people
take
aren't
out
of
choice.
In
fact,
most
of
the
services
are
located
far
from
them.
Most
of
the
employment
areas
are
located
far
from
them.
So
it's
very
important
for
us
to
kind
of
not
add
on
to
the
burden
that
people
have
to
travel
longer
to
get
to
a
workplace
from
northeast
corner
of
Scarborough
or
northeast
corner
of
a
tobik.
R
It's
not
less
corner
of
Etobicoke.
Now
it
is
also
important
that
we
consider
that
accessible
and
affordable
chanted
as
a
social
determinants
of
health.
We
are
seeing
that
the
health
impacts
in
communities
that
are
further
away
from
downtown
through
research
after
research,
showing
that
there
is
disparities
and
disproportional
impact
on
people's
health
amount
of
time.
R
R
I
also
want
to
support
Council
at
Davis
motion
for
transparency
and
accountability,
even
though
it
may
look
like
we
are
dictating
or
directing
to
another
system,
another
another
level
of
government.
In
fact,
by
fair
integration.
We
are
in
fact
tying
ourselves
to
that
system
by
fair
integration.
We
are
also
tying
our
services
and
to
that
system.
So,
as
some
sort
of
a
convenience
of
collaboration
happens,
we
also
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
not
tied
into
poor
decision-making.
R
We
are
not
tied
into
unaccountable
system
I'm,
not
saying
it
is
currently
there,
but
it's
in
fact
a
necessary
step
for
us
to
look
at
accountability
and
transparency
as
we
move
forward
with
decisions
are
making
because
we,
by
default
of
associating
our
fares
we
by
default
of
associating
our
services
to
under
the
system,
we
are
tied
into
the
decision-making,
whether
we
like
it
or
not,
so
it's
in
fact
very
fairly
appropriate
for
us
to
look
for
a
better
system
of
decision-making
in
the
Metrolink,
better
standards
of
transparency
when
decisions
are
made.
Thank
you.
D
You,
madam
Speaker
and
I
just
rise
in
support
of
council
Layton's
motion
he's
been
on
this
for
a
while
I've
supported
his
motions
before
with
regards
to
Exhibition
Place
and
his
people
trying
to
get
down
his
residents
trying
to
get
down
to
downtown
and
taking
far
too
long.
He
recognized
the
same
problem.
I
have
a
number
of
a
Shores
there's.
A
couple
weeks
ago
you
probably
saw
in
the
media.
D
One
of
my
residents
tried
to
start
his
own
bus
running
from
Humber
Bayshore,
cynical
glow
station,
because
it's
just
unbelievable,
getting
downtown
and
back
home
at
nighttime.
A
resident
showed
me
online.
The
other
day
he
could
have
walked
home
from
downtown
faster
than
the
transit
coming
back
to
parkland
lakeshore.
He
could
have
walked
home
and
showed
the
time
walking
and
the
time
the
transit
to
get
back
to
home.
So
that
is
ridiculous.
We
have
to
move
on
this
and
I
fully
support
cancellation
on
this
I
know.
D
Through
the
master
transportation
plan,
we
are
looking
at
having
a
bus
running
at
the
TTC
running
up
to
the
glo
station.
So
with
that
I'm
not
gonna,
move,
emotions
I'm
sure
be
ruled
out
of
order,
but
I
hope
that
the
TTC
would
take
this
into
account.
I
know
Andy
Byford,
his
team
probably
will
for
sure
and
I'm
gonna
make
sure
they
do,
but
I
just
want
to
stand
and
rise
and
congratulate
the
counts
relating
on
bringing
this
forward.
Once
again.
Thank.
A
E
Think
that
is
something
we
all
share
is
the
objective
we're
now
entering
into.
Obviously
our
continuing
on
a
negotiation
that
a
number
of
speakers
have
made
reference
to,
that
is
complicated.
I
went
to
a
couple
of
meetings,
I
described
it
at
some
meeting,
rather
I
was
at
in
the
last
little
while
as
an
eye
glazing
meeting,
because
what
you
had
there,
of
course
was
yet
the
province
you
had
Metrolinx
and
they're,
not
one.
In
the
same,
you
had
I
think
it
was.
Nine
transit
systems
represented
from
peel,
and
you
know
you
name
it.
E
E
There's
two
things
that
are
encouraging
number
one:
that
those
people
were
all
in
a
room
and
that
there
was
an
agenda
and
that
there
was
discussion
going
on
about
creating
this
seamless,
integrated
fare
system
for
the
region
and
that's
a
good
thing,
and
secondly,
the
second
good
indication
or
a
good
sign.
Is
this
agreement
and
I
want
to
endorse
as
well
the
comments
that
the
council,
Aten
and
others
have
made
councillor
Davis
and
others
who've
spoken.
This
is
not
the
answer.
This
is
a
modest
step
forward.
E
Obviously
it's
not
acceptable.
It's
not
acceptable
in
and
of
itself,
and
it's
still
not
acceptable
because
there
continues
to
be
an
inequity
between
how
this
city
and
its
people
are
being
treated
relative
to
residents
of
other
parts
of
the
region,
because,
as
has
been
noted
by
a
number
of
those
who
are
who
have
spoken,
this,
we
are
the
last
municipality
to
have
any
agreement
of
this
kind.
E
This
has
not
just
to
equity
and
fairness
within
the
region,
but
it
is
a
fundamentally
important
social
and
economic
issue
in
from
the
standpoint
of
social
justice
for
people
who
have
to
get
around
to
access
opportunity
and
economic
development,
because
people
even
like
Amazon,
what
are
the
questions
they
put
into
their
RFP?
Well,
they
want
to
know
what
your
arrangements
are
for
public
transportation
in
the
region.
E
They
want
to
know
how
close
it
is
to
the
airport
and
all
this
kind
of
thing,
because
transportation
is
a
fundamentally
important
part
of
their
being
able
to
attract
the
kind
of
talent
that
they
need
and
I
just
hope
again
and
I
spoke
to
this.
This
morning,
at
an
infrastructure
conference
I
spoke
to
that
I
was
very
happy.
E
And
so
there's
much
more
to
be
done.
But
I
think
this
is
a
solid
step
forward.
And
that
is
why
I'm
happy
to
obviously
stand
here
and
endorsed
the
recommendation
from
the
Executive
Committee,
and
also
to
indicate
as
a
clear
signal
that
to
the
city
map
through
the
city
manager
to
the
negotiations.
What
our
end
objective
is
through
councillor
Layton's
motion.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Thank.
G
T
A
T
M
To
you,
madam
Speaker,
the
pilot
project
came
out
of
the
tenure
cycling
plan,
as
well
as
some
additional
design
work.
That
happened
in
order
to
install
it,
and
we
worked
very
closely
with
the
BIA
s:
the
business
community,
the
adjacent
communities,
through
a
series
of
public
consultations
to
come
up
with
the
design
that
we
ultimately
implemented
through
the
term
of
the
one-year
pilot.
So.
M
L
Were
engaged
through
the
design
process
in
the
proposal
for
the
pilot,
as
well
as
during
the
evaluation
we
met
with
the
BIA
s
on
several
occasions,
and
businesses
were
invited
through
door-to-door
work,
as
well
as
through
through
letter
mail
to
contact
us
with
any
concerns,
and
we
met
on
site
with
businesses
who
had
concerns.
We.
L
L
L
L
Their
chair,
yes,
consultation,
was
extensive.
We
had
we
had
a
post
installation
survey
which
had
14,000
respondents,
which
involved
the
more
respondents
for
any
transportation
survey
than
we've
ever
had
before.
We
also
had
a
public
meeting
in
June
to
report
back
about
the
survey
results
from
that,
as
well
as
ongoing
consultation
with
the
local
businesses
as
concerns
arose,
so
we
could
address
them.
We.
L
L
L
The
chair
there
was
an
extensive
measurement
methodology
that
was
undertaken
for
this
project
was
which,
which
was
outlined
to
Council
in
a
supplementary
report
when
it
was
first
approved
that
involved
measuring
the
effect
on
the
cycling
environment,
the
effect
on
the
more
doing
environment
effect
on
curbside
demands
and
parking
effect
on
local
business,
as
well
as
level
of
support
and
public
perception
from
residents
and
businesses.
So
there
are
metrics
for
each
of
those
categories,
so
we.
L
Both
see
effect
on
the
cycling
environment
and
the
effect
on
the
motoring
environment,
the
metrics
included
not
only
looking
at
Bloor,
but
also
looking
at
the
parallel
corridors
of
Dupont
at
Harvard.
To
look
at
the
volumes
and
travel
time
of
cyclists
and
excuse
me
the
volumes
of
cyclists
and
the
travel
time
and
volumes
of
motorists.
So.
L
The
chair,
not
to
my
awareness
in
May
of
23
of
16
council
directed
transportation
services,
to
undertake
an
economic
impact
study
in
partnership
with
economic
development
and
culture,
as
well
as
the
local
BIA
s.
So
we
undertook
that
work
as
well
as
undertaking
obtaining
point-of-sale
data
from
monarus.
Thank.
T
I
Was
clear
from
the
Amazon
RFP
that
they
were
focused
on
the
local
culture
and
the
participation
and
the
pedestrian
bike
orientation
that
our
general
manager
transportation
could
talk
more
about
that
they're
used
to
in
Seattle,
and
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
kind
of
culture
existed
in
the
places
that
they
were
looking
at.
Thank.
A
M
A
M
Of
these
were
any
of
these
new
cyclists,
yes,
approximately
25%,
and
where
would
you
put
blurr
streets
use
of
these
lanes
compared
to
other
lanes
in
the
city?
Lord
Street
is
at
the
second
highest
usage
now
of
cyclists
in
the
city,
and
would
you
describe
the
overall
impact
on
vehicle
or
travel
as
measured
throughout
this
project?
How
would
you
describe
that
the
the
travel
time
via
killer
travel
time
on
Bloor
Street
has
gone
up
slightly?
M
Harvard
was
already
very
well
used
and
at
capacity
so
now
overall,
in
your
opinion,
is
working
through.
Yes,
we
believe
that
the
pilot
has
shown
successfully
that
blur
with
a
predicted
cycling
facility
can
attract
and
sustain
safe,
ridership,
so
travel
time
impacts
are
about
50%
less.
The
number
of
cyclists
using
blur
has
almost
doubled
during
the
pilot
project
and
and
all
of
this
with
no
measurable
impacts
along
the
adjacent
corridors.
That's
correct,
and
so
can
you
can.
M
I
L
The
speaker,
the
expansion
to
the
West,
would
be
considered
as
part
of
an
overall
major
corridor
study
of
the
the
blur
du
Pont
corridors,
which
council
has
directed
staff
to
initiate.
This
pilot
is
the
first
effort
in
that
regard
and
following
the
council
direction
about
the
future
of
this
pilot,
we
would
undertake
to
put
the
expansion
of
the
West
into
our
work
program
in
2019
or
beyond.
Okay.
L
Sure
counselor
as
you're
aware
the
the
blur
east
section,
where
there's
a
gap
between
Church
and
Sherbourne
that
is
already
under
underway
in
terms
of
design
and
options
for
consideration
of
expansion
of
bike
lanes.
Further
east
we've
had
two
public
meetings
on
that
project
and
it
is
in
the
capital
program
for
2019
and.
M
L
M
L
A
Q
M
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
well,
in
addition
to
the
study
that
the
BIA
is
commissioned
through
the
Tcat,
we
believe
that,
since
that
was
largely
based
on
survey
data
and
a
very
respectable
and
repeatable
methodology
that
was
used
in
Calgary
and
that
we
were
working
with
the
University
of
Toronto
on.
We
believe
that
there
was
the
need
to
have
some
additional
point-of-sale
data,
which
would
have
been,
which
is
a
very
solid
sort
of
factual,
based
information
about
30%
of
the
businesses.
M
M
L
R
L
A
Q
Thank
you,
Amanda
Speaker,
to
the
transportation
staff.
Would
you
would
you
say
that
agree
that
the
overall
growth
in
cycling,
ridership
between
Dupont,
Bloor
and
harbor,
with
the
institution
of
the
bluer
bike
lanes,
was
very
modest
and
in
fact,
a
couple
other
to
the
other.
Two
alternative
routes
showed
a
decline.
L
Through
the
speaker,
we
did
see
decline
of
11
percent
of
cyclists
on
doop
on
and
about
25
percent
of
cyclists
on
Harvard
Street
from
that
before
the
after,
although
Harvard
still
does
remain
within
the
top
10
of
the
cycling
facilities
in
the
city
within
one
year
to
see
the
amount
of
growth
that
we
saw
on
Bloor
Street.
We
we
think
that
is
quite
substantial.
Okay,.
L
Q
L
Q
L
L
The
speaker
not
on
this,
not
on
this
pilot
section.
We
did
not
collect
data
through
the
winter
because
of
the
types
of
technologies
that
collect
winter
cycling
data.
It
wasn't
entirely
possible
to
do
that
through
the
pilot
project.
We
do
have
other
locations
in
the
city
where
year-round
cycling.
Data
is
collected
when.
Q
L
Q
Thought
that
I
thought
that
the
motion
that
was
okay,
I
thought
this
was
something
from
before.
Okay,
so
I
stand
corrected.
Is
there
so
the
bike
lanes
on
on
DuPont,
which
which
reduced
a
very
important
lane
of
traffic
coming
into
the
city?
Those
bike
lanes
are
very
underutilized
at
what
point
would
the
city
reassess
the
need
for
those
bike
lines,
bike
lanes.
L
Q
M
Q
With
all
due
respect,
I
know:
I
don't
mean
staff.
The
Jews
are
going
about
the
everyday
business
of
adding
stop
signs.
Reducing
you
know
changing
some
signal.
Timing
I
mean
that
are
really
devoted
toward
alleviating
the
congestion
down
on
Bremner
and
Bay
and
John,
leading
leading
down
to
the
major
transit
ways
of
the
Gardiner
and
lakeshore
boulevard.
Do
we
have
it?
Do
we
have
a
team
that
is
strategically
devoted
to
that
through.
M
You,
the
traffic
management
center
and
the
congestion
management
plan
that
the
Traffic
Management
Center
uses
the
staff
there
are
strategically
devoted
to
managing
congestion.
They
manage
it
through
monitoring.
They
manage
it
through
signal
timing.
They
manage
it
through
all
of
the
component
pieces
that
you
you
would
use
out
of
that
job
and
I'm,
not
remembering
the
number
of
people
who
work
there
right
now,
but
it's
well
over
100
Thank.
I
F
F
L
The
speaker,
those
potential
modifications
have
not
yet
been
costed.
We
need,
subject
to
council
approval
design.
Work
would
need
to
be
undertaken
in
partnership
with
the
local
BIA,
who
has
a
streetscape
project
in
the
capital
program
that
this
work
could
potentially
be
coordinated
with.
Should
council
approve
that
direction,
so
it.
F
L
F
L
F
L
F
F
F
F
H
M
You
certainly
the
city
is
growing
and
congestion
comes
along
with
that
I
think
we
have
been
taking
a
number
of
efforts
in
order
to
manage
that
congestion,
but
I
think
as
we
see
growth
and
land
use
throughout
the
city,
we're
going
to
see
growth
in
and
beat
all
types
of
traffic.
I
think
that
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
we're
most
excited
about
with
Laura
Street
is
that
when
you
have
people
who
can
safely
choose
to
cycle,
then
they're
not
driving
in
that
same
traffic,
that
maybe
many
of
your
constituents
are
experiencing
right.
F
L
Through
the
speaker,
there
wasn't
origin
destination
data
done
for
this
project.
What
we
do
know,
based
on
the
increased
travel
time
on
Bloor
Street,
is
that
we've
been
able
to
mitigate
that
quite
a
bit
and
bringing
it
down
by
half
from
what
was
initially
found.
True
changes
to
traffic
signal,
timing
and
other
modifications.
If
this
were
to
be
a
made
permanent,
we
could
decrease
that
even
further
okay.
J
Thank
you.
Madam
Speaker
I
have
a
couple
of
quick
questions.
First
of
all,
there's
this
note
here
that
says
that
the
when
the
bike
lanes
were
first
installed,
not
what's
india,
there
are
temporary
barriers
put
in
place
that
the
travel
times
for
motorists
increased
and
then,
after
a
while,
the
actual
increases
in
travel
time
for
the
motorists
were
reduced
by
a
half.
Is
that
correct?
Do.
M
Sorry
there
was
an
eight
minute
delay
in
the
westbound
westbound
direction
and
a
four
minute
delay
in
the
eastbound
direction,
and
that
was
about
six
weeks
after
the
pilot
had
gone
in
and
what
we
find
when
we
put
in
new
installations
is
that
it
takes
a
little
while
for
those
to
sort
of
sort
themselves
out
and
for
traffic
to
kind
of
find
its
pattern.
And
so
that
is
why,
after
we
got
that
information
and
in
June,
we
ended
up
making
some
modifications.
The
signal,
timing
and
other
components
to
bring
those
down.
J
But
I'm
saying
the
data
has
not
been
really
reviewed
comprehensively.
That's
one
comment
that
I
would
make.
Secondly,
my
second
question
is
so
you've
introduced
temporary
barriers
and
do
a
cyclists
traveling
in
a
cycle
lane
have
the
opportunity
to
weave
in
and
out
of
their
cycle
lane
by
virtue
of
the
nature,
the
barriers
that
are
in
place.
Do
they
have
the
opportunity
to
enter
into
traffic.
For
example,
know.
L
Through
the
speaker,
it
depends
on
which
location
of
the
cycle
track,
in
this
case
some
of
the
protection,
the
barrier
between
the
cycle
track
and
the
motor
vehicles
is
actually
parked
cars.
So
the
ability
to
move
in
and
out
of
there
is
limited
to
add
intersections
or
places
where
it
isn't
a
parked
car
as
the
barrier
all.
J
Right
and
then
my
last
question
relates
to
there
is
this
well
the
sort
of
acceptance
of
a
fact
at
anytime.
There
is
an
accident
where
it
involves
a
motorist
and
a
cyclist.
Invariably,
the
the
burden
falls
on
the
motorist,
simply
because
they're
operating
a
larger
vehicle
and
my
question
is
going
forward,
will
will
we
give
some
consideration
to
licensing
of
motorists,
a
story
of
luck,
cyclists
and
making
sure
that
cyclists
carry
some
insurance.
J
J
J
I
J
L
Through
the
speaker,
businesses
were
visited
both
before
the
bike
lanes
were
approved
and
installed,
as
well
as
after
notices
went
out
on
multiple
occasions
for
tuned
by
businesses.
To
answer
a
survey
or
to
contact
staff
with
any
localized
issues
and
staff
went
door-to-door
requesting
to
speak
with
an
owner
or
manager
in
order
to
address
their
concerns,
because.
L
L
The
speaker
concerns
were
brought
up
about
the
extent
of
the
on
street
parking
loss
and
the
the
lack
of
convenience
for
their
customers.
One
of
the
things
that
we
did
was
we
worked
with
the
Toronto
parking
authority
to
provide
a
map
to
provide
look
to
hide
board
guidance
to
customers
about
getting
to
those
off
street
Lots,
as
well
as
a
coupon
code,
so
that
customers
could
use
a
coupon
of
$4
at
that
parking
transaction
on
in
the
tipi
a
lot.
L
J
L
J
What
so
I
I
visited
the
site
three
or
four
times
and
I
did
some
of
my
own
canvas,
so
I
specifically
had
businesses
that
said
to
me
that
the
business
volume
during
this
product
project
decreased
one
individual
indicated
by
sixteen
percent.
Another
one
indicated
twenty
five
percent,
so
these
are
specifics
that
I
myself
got
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
Did
you
not
capture
any
of
this
through.
L
J
And
in
terms
of
safety,
as
there
been
any
discussion
with
respect
to
maybe
increased
enforcement,
another
thing
that
I
I
noticed
when
I
was
there
the
the
several
times
that
I
visited
that
some
cyclists.
Of
course
it
happens
all
over
the
city,
just
don't
obey
the
rules
of
the
road,
but
they
took
the
opportunity
fact
that
there
were
bike
lanes
there
to
just
use
it
as
a
speedway
and
they're
just
speeding
down
without
much
regard
for
pedestrians
that
might
be
in
their
way
or
other
vehicles,
making
a
left
turn
or
right
turn
onto
a
street.
L
J
All
right,
so
we
can
get
pretty
aggressive
winters,
as
we
know
so
in
terms
of
dealing
a
couple
of
things
in
terms
that
start
with
the
garbage,
pickup
I
assume
there's
some
form
of
garbage
pickup
along
Brewers
Street,
as
there
isn't
any
major
Road,
and
so
now
we
have
the
bike
lanes
and
we
got
we've
got
it
down
to
two
lanes.
How
is
that
going
to
be
managed
in
the
process
through.
L
The
speaker
it's
vanished,
quite
similarly
to
how
it
was
before
the
cycle
tracks
were
in
place
where
there
was
on
street
parking,
taking
that
space
curbside,
so
the
which
trucks
were
consulted
waste
was
was
consulted
as
part
of
our
process
of
design
and
garbage
trucks
operate.
Besides
the
cycle
track.
In
some
cases
they
enter
the
cycle
track
to
collect
garbage
curbside
that
seems
to
it
has
operated
quite
well
in
the
past
winter
would.