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City Council, meeting 5, March 28, 2019 - Part 1 of 2
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A
B
Well
good
morning,
speaker
and
colleagues
and
I
am
very
pleased
to
be
able
to
lead
the
council
today
in
welcoming
Toronto's
new
poet
laureate
mr.
Alma,
Ritz
and
I
want
to
start
by
welcoming
him
and
welcoming
him
together
with
Anne
Michaels
who's
here,
our
current
poet
laureate,
and
to
say,
because
it's
also
an
occasion
for
us
here
as
a
council
to
say
thank
you
to
her.
B
This
is
something
where
she
has
and
I'll
mention
in
particular
one
occasion
when
she
I
think
proved
one
of
the
many
parts
of
value
received
from
having
such
a
position,
namely
at
the
time
of
the
Yonge
Street
van
attack
last
year.
But
it's
also
an
appropriate
time
because
April
is
National,
Poetry
Month
and
a
lot
of
people
may
say.
Well,
you
know
why
does
that
matter?
B
When
we
were
in
that
contest,
they
asked
us
more
questions
about
the
sort
of
the
arts
and
cultural
life
and
the
quality
of
life
of
the
city
and
the
fabric
of
what
put
that,
together
than
they
did
about
many
other
things.
You
might
have
expected
them
to
ask
about,
and
so
it's
certainly
been
a
priority
of
mine.
B
As
I
know,
we
will
in
this
room
of
those
who
want
to
advance
our
city
through
the
arts
and
culture
and
who
also
do
a
fantastic
job
of
representing
us
and
what
we
stand
for
as
Canadians
and
who
we
are
around
the
world.
Now
the
position
of
poet
laureate
again,
they're,
probably
people
out
there
watching
us
and
people
who
watch
these
things.
Who
would
say
you
know
what's
that
all
about?
B
Why
do
you
have
such
a
person
and
I
think
it
is
very
important
to
remember
that
this
is
actually
a
historic
appointment
of
very
high
prestige
in
days
gone
by.
These
were
the
people,
the
laureates
who
recorded
history
through
poetry
and,
of
course,
we've
come
a
long
way.
Some
of
us
might
say
it
would
be
better
if
we
went
back
to
those
days
of
having
poets
record
as
opposed
to
other
means
of
doing
so.
B
But
the
bottom
line
is
that
today,
what
it
does
is
it
allows
us
to
take
important
occasions
and
to
to
have
them
imbued
with
that
very
special
sense
of
the
arts
and
culture
through
poetry,
and
also
to
perhaps
comment
to
reflect
upon
history.
More
so
than
to
be
the
people
who
record
it.
The
person
who's
selected
and
it's
done
by
a
selection
committee
which
in
this
case
included
and
Michaels
as
the
incumbent
is
so.
B
This
is
selected
as
someone
who
writes
outstanding
poetry,
who
is
written
on
themes
relevant
to
the
people
who
live
in
the
city
and
relevant
to
the
city
itself.
And,
of
course,
part
of
the
job
is
to
serve
as
well
as
an
advocate
for
not
just
poetry
but
for
the
arts
in
general
and
I
hope
that
mr.
Moritz
and
his
new
assignment
will
feel
free
to
do
that.
B
Think
people
who
have
read
anything
about
Al's
biography
will
see
that
he's
got
an
incredibly
diverse,
a
series
of
career
accomplishments,
ranging
through
being
an
executive.
An
editor
and
author
he's
been
involved
in
the
advertising.
Business
he's
done
a
lot
of
different
things,
but,
of
course,
he's
most
renowned
for
his
poetry,
and
it
has
really
been
in
the
in
the
judgment
of
others,
poetry
that
has
helped
to
shape
our
literary
community
he's
published,
20
books
of
poetry,
which
have
received
many
national
and
international
honors,
including
the
Griffin
poetry
prize.
B
So
al
congratulations
on
your
appointment
and
we're
gonna
be
asking
you
to
come
up
here
in
a
moment
to
read
a
poem
that
you've
composed
specifically
for
this
this
day
on
which
you
become
our
poet
laureate,
but
before
doing
that,
I
just
do
want
to
extend
a
very
sincere
word
of
thanks,
I'm
sure,
on
behalf
of
all
members
of
council
and
on
behalf
of
the
people
of
the
City
of
Toronto,
for
the
job
that
Ann
Michaels
has
done
in
this
position.
She
has
been
a
dedicated
literary
ambassador
since
becoming
poet
laureate
in
late
2015.
B
She
has
been
and
continues
to
be,
a
champion
of
Toronto
and
we
have
felt
her
presence
and
the
power
of
her
words
and
her
ability
to
capture
the
moment.
Many
many
times
I
myself
have
been
in
her
presence
many
times
over
the
course
of
the
last
number
of
years,
but
no
time
more
particular
than
the
vigil
of
the
van
attack.
Her
words,
her
presence
the
essence
of
the
office
that
she
represents
I
think
helped
to
bring
comfort
at
a
time
and
I'm
sure
councillor.
B
Fillion
will
agree
on
that
that
that
night,
that
was
part
of
those
those
series
of
days
that
were
so.
We
were
in
a
daze
I
think
in
some
respects,
as
a
result
of
this
terrible
thing
happening
out
happening
in
our
city
and
she
managed,
as
talented
people
like
her
and
like
Alcon,
do
to
sum
up,
the
soul
of
our
city
and
just
two
lines
from
the
poem
I
think
spoke
a
lot
to
who
we
are
and
I'll
just
quote.
We
will
not
surrender
how
we
will
love,
how
we
love.
We
will
not
surrender
those.
B
It
was
a
five-person
panel
that
was
unanimous
and
I
would
just
say
how
proud
that
we
are
to
be
in
the
presence
of
two
such
great
Canadian
artists,
literary
legends
and
proud
of
what
they
represent
for
our
city,
and
on
that
note,
I
would
like
to
welcome
Al
to
come
up
to
the
podium
and
to
read
his
poem
that
has
actually
been
put
together,
not
just
for
today,
but
more
importantly,
for
the
national
poetry
city
challenge,
where
we're
behind
you
a
thousand
percent,
it's
called
by
Saint
Nicholas,
Ukrainian,
Catholic,
Church
and
so
al.
Congratulations.
C
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
for
those
wonderful
remarks:
I
thank
you
and
all
who
are
involved
in
the
poet
laureate
ship
for
this
honor,
an
opportunity
council,
the
economic
and
Community
Development
Committee,
its
cultural
staff,
the
selection
panel,
the
wonderful
poets
who
have
filled
the
position
as
National
Poetry
Month
begins.
We
can
ask
how
to
keep
poetry
central
in
our
lives,
I
favor,
something
simple
and
basic.
C
Give
it
space
in
all
our
actions
continue
to
protect
and
expand
the
spaces
in
our
physical
city
and
in
our
spiritual
city,
where
poetry
can
flourish
so
that
it
is
there
for
anyone
who
may
come
to
wish
to
hear
it
and
respond.
Then
everything
else
in
the
city
will
tend
to
rise,
come
together
and
create
the
poet
experiences
creation
in
its
full
depth
and
intensity
as
discovery,
communication
and
work.
The
poet
creates,
by
means
of
humankind's
most
intimate,
complex
tool,
the
word
a
tool
that
is
one
with
the
human
body
and
soul.
C
The
poet
knows
that
at
each
new
instant,
all
things
lie
in
a
potential
justice
and
beauty
which
is
waiting
to
be
made.
Here's
a
short
poem
of
my
own.
About
these
days.
We
are
now
living
the
cusp
of
March
and
April.
The
church
it
refers
to
is
on
Bellwoods
Avenue
in
the
Queen
West
and
Niagara
Street
area.
So
probably
everyone
will
know
that
area
by
st.
Nicholas,
Ukrainian
Catholic
Church
much.
My
lord
was
stillborn
april
waits
in
mud.
C
How
long
will
I
stay
beside
the
street
in
this
thin
house
and
here
bottles
breaking
by
night
all
day
the
trucks
pass
by
so
close
just
across
the
narrow
cracking
sidewalk
and
I
turn
up
rubber
and
glass
in
the
mud
by
the
door.
Why
I
plant
potatoes
when
I
first
came
here?
It
was
good
from
the
alley
to
see
so
many
small
houses,
leaning
together
and
the
row
of
garages,
each
flat
roof
sloped
back
at
a
different
lazy
pitch.
C
Each
wall
had
a
different
dress:
peeling
rolls
of
red
asphalt,
brick
peeling
white
asphalt,
stone,
wood,
paneling,
battered
aluminum,
doors
painted
red
and
orange
windows,
trimmed
grass,
green
and
aquamarine
no
angle
right,
no
two
lines.
Parallel
the
drooping
wires
from
listening
poles
a
car
without
wheels,
a
twisted
bicycle,
then,
from
the
patchwork,
a
man
stepped
out.
Unshaven
grace
doubled
nearly
old
into
the
thick
malt
odor,
from
the
brewery,
as
if
dazed
by
the
low
blue
sky
and
rush
of
clouds
pouring
down
from
the
north.
He
stops
outside
the
door.
C
His
thick
body
sways
on
stiff
legs,
the
khaki
work,
pants
flap
and
a
young
dog
twirls
around
his
legs
in
the
wind.
Then
it
runs
far
off
but
always
looks
back
until
slowly.
The
man
comes,
that
was
another
muddy
April
Lord
with
glass
and
paper
in
the
alley.
Puddles,
though
not
as
much
as
today,
not
a
bud
showed
yet
on
the
trees
along
the
streets
endlessly
straight
to
north
and
south.
You
could
see
so
far
away
that
few
who
went
there
ever
returned
the
roofs
and
steeples
of
other
worlds.
D
You,
madam
Speaker
right
he's
on
a
point
of
privilege,
as
chair
of
Exhibition
Place
and
I,
was
going
to
show
you
a
short
video
which
I'm
going
to
show
in
a
minute,
but
I
thought
I
would
take
this
opportunity
to
know
our
CEO
Diane
Young
was
with
us
this
morning.
Our
fearless
leader,
Dan
exhibition
place,
but
she's
gonna
be
retiring
in
the
next
couple
of
months.
So
I
thought
this
might
be
my
only
opportunity
to
recognize
her
in
this
council
chamber.
D
So
Brian's
been
with
the
city
for
over
33
years,
22
Exhibition,
Place,
CEO
and
I
can
tell
you
I'm
sure,
councilor
Leighton,
Council,
Cressy,
council
perks,
speaking
the
local
councillors,
have
worked
with
Diane
she's,
been
a
pleasure
to
work
with
as
chair.
For
me,
wealth
experience
came
in
as
a
lawyer,
but
has
done
some
great
work
down
an
Exhibition
Place
you're
gonna
see
that
in
a
minute
the
gathering
spot,
but
Diane
I
just
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
recognize
all
the
great
work.
D
Your
public
service
for
the
city,
with
that
Laura
pretty,
is
with
her
that
works
great
work
on
ourselves,
a
marque
team.
They
put
this
video
together
as
an
exhibition
place.
It's
not
see
me
as
Exhibition
Place,
that's
the
myth,
but
we
have
a
great
video
to
show
you
that
Exhibition
Place
is
a
gathering
spot
and
please
enjoy
the
video
and
Diane
again.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
A
Members
of
council,
we
will
now
review
and
confirm
the
order
paper.
There
are
46
items
left
on
the
agenda.
Our
first
item
this
morning
is
e^x
DX
3.11.
Oh
sorry,
council
firms
on
the
2019
Toronto
Zoo
lumina
experience.
Yesterday,
council
started
the
debate
on
item
ph
2.3
zoning
revisions
for
municipal
shelters.
I
propose
that
council
returned
that
to
that
item
after
e^x
3.11
City
Council
will
consider
member
motions
at
2:00
p.m.
our
first
item
after
members
motion
is
item.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
trying
to
move
things
along
e^x
3.11,
which
is
actually
time
for
9:30
I,
do
have
a
motion,
an
amendment
that
we've
worked
with
zoo
staff,
our
CFO
everybody's
happy
with
it.
If
I
can
put
it
on
the
screen
and
move,
it
basically
puts
the
onus
on
we're.
Gonna
borrow
money
for
this
event
from
the
Toronto
Foundation,
which
is
where
we
have
our
the
Toronto
Zoo.
Has
it's
donations
as
we
work
on
our
own
foundation,
so
this
brings
zero
risk
to
the
City
of
Toronto.
E
A
A
A
G
E
A
F
F
A
L
H
Through
the
chair,
it's
just
to
take
a
step
back
at
exec
committee
a
week
ago.
The
proposal
was
that
the
foundation
that
sits
as
an
independent
organization
from
the
zoo
would
guarantee
the
loan,
thus
creating
zero
risks
for
the
city.
As
we
explored
that
option,
we
identified
the
fact
that
the
funds
do
exist
in
the
foundation,
so
the
foundation
is
now
funding
the
zoo's
activity
with
regards
to
this
exhibit.
H
H
L
L
What
are
those
funds
normally
used
for
and
the
reason
why
I'm
asking
is,
is
if
you
guarantee
four
five
million
and
the
money
doesn't
come
through?
Usually
the
money
is
used
for
other
things,
and
if
that
five
million
is
not
there,
the
zoo
may
come
back
and
ask
for
that
money
in
some
other
form.
So
what
is
that?
What
what
would
up
that
twelve
million
dollars?
Have
you
earmarked
that
money
for
other
projects
that
are
now
off
the
table.
M
M
With
staff
it
much
of
those
funds,
independent
of
the
undesignated
are
earmarked
for
things
such
as
the
orangutan
project,
so
there
are
designated
purposes
for
say,
endangered
species,
work
and
that
type
of
thing,
but
the
funds
we're
looking
to
access
are
undesignated
ones
that
are
legacy.
Funds
from
the
transfer
in
2009
and.
M
L
M
K
M
K
M
Yeah
our
choice
of
going
with
moment
factory
is
because
they
are
a
legitimate
world-class
digital
interactive
company
they've
worked
with
zoos
across
the
world,
they've
worked
with
leading
sports
organizations
leading
artists
and
musicians.
So
if
you,
you
know,
if
we
were
to
pull
up
a
YouTube,
video
you'd
see
it's
pretty
safe.
To
say
moment,
factory
can
be
considered
Best
in
Show,
so.
K
M
M
M
K
M
K
M
K
M
M
M
We
worked
with
the
leading
consulting
company
called
zoo
advisors,
and,
over
and
over
again,
this
Lite
concept
when
combined
with
the
space
like
ours,
came
up
as
what
we
feel
is
one
of
our
best
bets
to
really
increase
the
profile
of
our
zoo
and
give
us
a
great
new
way
to
talk
about
our
conservation
programming.
Okay,
thank.
K
F
M
That's
that's
correct
part
of
over
here.
Where
are
you
I'm
over
here,
you're
right,
right,
hi,
hi,
a
key
part
of
working
with
an
organization
like
moment
factor?
Is
these
they've
put
on
these
presentations
in
zoos
such
as
the
Singapore
Zoo,
so
they
have
experience
working
with
living
animals
in
our
care.
Animal
welfare
is
a
key
tenet
of
our
zoo
and
whatever
we
do
we'll
be
taking
that
into
account
to
make
sure
we're
not
jeopardizing
that
in
any
way.
The
other
key
thing
about
this
program
is
this
is
the
good
news
story.
F
M
M
F
M
M
F
M
M
F
M
M
F
M
We've
built
our
funding
model
with
it
as
low
as
15
for
children
and
up
to
25
to
adults.
What's
your
top
end
25
for
adults,
so
we
are
still
working
within
that
window
and
working
with
our
partners
to
determine
whether
that's
going
to
be
1695
and
modeling
that
compared
to
what
else
is
going
on
in
our
clan
scape
in
Toronto.
So
we
want
to
be
comparable.
So.
F
M
N
M
N
So
what
you're
asking
for
us
to
do
today
is
to
increase
the
operating
budget
because
it
was
already
adopted
and
you
will
draw
those
funds
from
the
Toronto
foundation.
That's
earmarked
for
your
for
the
zoo
and
then
flow
that
through
a
separate
entity
that
will
now
manage
this
lumina
experience.
Is
that
correct.
M
N
N
M
Key
element
to
this
is
that
it
does
evolve
and
you
can
actually
adapt
and
write
new
stories.
This
is
our
initial
conservation
story
offering
talking
about
this
idealistic
future,
where
we've
done
things
right,
where
we're
connecting
people
to
the
natural
world,
so
they're
saving
animals,
we
can
actually
update
that
entire
program
and
continue
to
have
it
change
and
evolve
to
have
different
offerings
that
will
appeal
to
differing.
M
So
a
key
element
to
this
is
making
sure
we
look
after
animal
welfare,
so
the
first
thing
we
did
is
when
we
drafted
the
route,
its
primary
primarily
through
areas
that
art
with
animals
on
it.
We
have
ten
plus
kilometers
of
trails,
so
it
snapped
there
and
then
we're
looking
to
go
to
areas
where
the
animals
are
often
indoors
at
night
or
off,
exhibit
and
can
go
to
areas
where
they
would
not
be
at
risk.
M
N
A
vibrant
night
culture
in
Singapore
that
we
don't
necessarily
have
in
Toronto,
or
at
least
we're
trying
to
foster
that
nighttime
economy
there's
also
temperature
and
climate
changes.
Singapore
is
warm
all
year
round.
It
doesn't
snow,
there
is
no
extreme
weather
conditions.
How
would
you
just
adjust
your
numbers
according
to
the
fact
that
what
may
work
in
Singapore
may
not
work
in
in
Toronto?
That's.
M
A
great
question
and
a
key
part
of
looking
at
this
and
working
with
moment
factory
as
installations
they
have
in
Quebec
installations,
they've
done
in
the
shoulder
season
at
Fort
Henry
in
Kingston,
and
you
know
we
live
in
a
world
where
we're
getting
more
and
more
weather
warnings.
But
when
we
actually
look
at
the
data,
we
have
the
room,
if
there's
extreme
cold,
to
move
these
guests
to
other
parts
of
the
week
and
we
want
to
foster
a
culture
where
people
are
getting
outside.
They're
reconnecting
with
nature,
there's
very
little
really
bad
weather.
N
With
respect
to
the
just
coming
back
to
animal
welfare,
because
this
one
is
nagging,
I
need
to
be
quite
honest:
oftentimes
there
have
been
quite
a
bit
of
sighted
studies,
a
lot
of
documentation
out
there
about
the
neurological
effects
and
on
animals
the
mental
health
of
animals
in
captivity,
adding
another
layer
of
high
level
entertainment
value
doesn't
necessarily
speak
to
the
animal
welfare
and
I
really
trying
to
follow
your
logic
here.
How
can
we
is
there,
a
third
party
review
of
your
assessment
on
how
this
is
going
to
impact
animals?
Well,.
M
One
of
the
key
things
we'll
be
doing
is
doing
pre
and
post
and
during
monitoring
of
these
animals
and
having
that
baseline
data.
We're
going
through
some
structural
changes
at
the
zoo
and
one
of
those
changes
includes
a
full-time
person
responsible
exclusively
for
animal
welfare
and
using
methodologies
developed
at
leading
accredited
facilities
across
the
world
to
make
sure
that
those
animals
are
not
in
harm's
way.
That
they're
not
stressed
that
it's
not
causing
any
negative
impact.
M
This
conservation
program
will
be
required
to
go
through
a
vigorous
vetting
process
and
we'll
bring
those
people
in
to
take
a
look
at
the
impacts
it
could
have
at
the
animals
beforehand
and
we'll
be
routing
this,
based
on
a
philosophy
of
not
causing
a
negative
impact
to
those
animals.
So
that's
part
of
the
planning
process
and
that's
our
chicken
and
egg
challenge.
We
can't
actually
plan
the
route
until
we
get
a
little
further
and
we
need
to
plan
that
route,
so
it
doesn't
have
a
negative
impact
on
animals.
E
E
H
E
M
E
Have
so
I'm
the
chair
of
the
board
of
directors
of
the
Toronto
Zoo,
we
have
a
strategic
plan
and
a
master
plan
strategic
plan,
we're
very
focused
on
conservation,
animal
care
as
well.
This
project
meets
all
of
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
zoo's
strategic
plan.
It.
E
And
so
one
of
the
things
that
was
brought
up
at
the
board
meeting
as
we
evaluated
this
was
animal
care.
I
know
there's
been
some
concerns
here.
This
is
a
light.
Show
that
illustrates
the
conservation
program
highlights
what's
being
happen,
what's
happening
at
the
zoo
and
I
know.
The
animal
care
was
a
concern,
as
it
always
is,
with
boards
of
members
of
the
board.
So
there's
no
animals
actually
involved
in
this
Lumina
light.
Show
at
any
time
is
there
so.
M
M
E
And
so
your
10
years
at
the
Toronto
Zoo
you've
been
the
CEO
for
six
months
now
before
that
year,
at
the
Vancouver
Aquarium
wealth
of
it,
you
have
a
wealth
of
experience.
One
of
the
reasons
we
hired
you
to
start
bringing
innovation
and
new
approaches
to
the
zoo,
both
to
get
people
through
the
gates.
How
the
zoo
is
run.
There's
been
some
comments
around
risk.
E
M
Correct
this
is
a
model
that
we
are
really
excited
about.
That's
demonstrated
highly
profitable
in
several
different
venues
in
several
different
formats
and
we
think
it's
a
great
addition
to
the
East
End
of
the
city.
We
think
it's
gonna
draw
people
from
further
afield
and
it
has
great
connections
to
our
community
as
far
as
getting
people
into
the
city
at
a
time
of
year,
where
we're
looking
to
boost
growth.
Okay,.
E
E
So
one
of
the
goals
that
the
zoo
is
to
try
me
more
financially
self-sufficient
and
we
have
like
maglev
pilot
project.
We,
the
city,
supporting
our
winter
Zoo
mobile.
So
this
is
another
innovative
project.
We're
looking
at
bringing
to
make
the
zoo
more
self-sufficient
cover
off
our
conservation
program,
promote
our
world-class
conservation
programs
that
the
zoo's
involved
in,
but
also
the
level
of
care.
We
look
after
with
the
animals
correct
right.
M
This
is,
this
is
the
kind
of
program
that
you're,
seeing
more
and
more
in
modern,
world-class
accredited
facilities
like
our
zoo,
and
we
really
believe
we
can
deliver
it
at
a
high
level.
We
think
our
community's
going
to
be
excited
about
it
and
the
animals
are
always
our
first
priority
will
not
be
negatively
impacted
by
this.
Okay.
E
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
so
I
do
have
a
motion
that
I
would
like
to
put
have
put
on
the
screen,
as
you
heard,
from
the
answers
from
Miss
Taylor
our
CFO.
This
is
a
basic
financial
arrangement.
The
Toronto
Zoo
has
money.
With
with
the
foundation
there's
minimal,
there's
no
risk
to
the
City
of
Toronto.
This
is
a
pretty
standard
financial
arrangement
that
you
see,
often
it's
its
net
zero,
we're
taking
the
money
out
of
the
foundation
that
money
comes
from
people
that
believe
in
the
zoo
that
they
made
donations
to
the
zoo.
E
It
supports
the
zoo's.
This
was
unanimously
approved
at
the
board
of
directors
of
the
Toronto
Zoo.
After
a
pretty
extensive
meeting
a
presentation
by
moment,
we
asked
questions
very
specifically
about
the
finances.
How
we
get
it,
however,
see
that
money
back
we
do
understand.
You
know,
there's
been
some
concerns
over
the
budget
at
the
Toronto
Zoo
and
attendance.
This
really
meets
our
strategic
planning
goals.
Getting
people
into
the
zoo.
Our
conservation
we've
been
told
to
be
more
innovative
at
the
zoo.
E
If
we
want
to
continue
to
see
support
from
the
City
of
Toronto,
which
is
what
we
want,
but
at
the
same
time
our
long-term
goal
is
to
be
financially
independent
of
the
Toronto
Zoo
at
the
Maine
time,
looking
after
the
animals
promoting
our
world-class
conservation
program,
once
again,
there's
no
risk
at
all.
By
doing
this
with
the
City
of
Toronto,
it's
here
to
be
approved
because
our
budget
was
already
approved
there
was
this
was
sent
to
an
RFP.
It
was
thoroughly
vetted
by
the
zoo
staff.
E
One
of
the
reasons
it
is
here
I
would
have
liked
to
have
seen
it
within
our
budget
program
that
was
just
passed.
Unfortunately,
the
timing
of
the
RFP
that
we
sent
out
and
the
schedule
with
the
zoo
board
we
weren't
out,
couldn't
get
it
into
the
zoo
budget
process
in
time.
But
once
again,
there
is
no
risk
to
City
Council
and
the
taxpayers
by
this
project
and
I
have
every
faith,
as
does
the
board
of
directors
of
the
Toronto
Zoo.
Our
animals
will
be
looked
after
during
this.
D
You,
madam
Speaker
I'll,
be
supporting,
counts
range,
ease.
Motion
I
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
our
new
CEO
just
the
other
day,
and
he
brings
a
wealth
experience
coming
from
the
Vancouver
Aquarium
and
we
had
a
brief
chat
yesterday
and
our
CFO
has
said
this
is
no
risk
to
this
council,
but
you
know
I
remember
over
the
years
the
Toronto
Zoo
down
here
you
know
hat
in
hand
looking
for
funds,
but
I
think
they're,
being
innovative
and
stepping
out
of
the
box
and
trying
to
get
people
out
to
the
zoo
and
I
know.
D
The
CEO
invited
me
to
go
to
do.
I
was
on
the
board,
but
I
invite
you.
If
you
have
concerns
about
the
animal
welfare
I'm
sure
our
new
CEO
would
love
to
give
you
a
tour
what's
happening
out.
There
they're
doing
great
work
out
there
and
I'll
tell
you
from
being
on
that
board
and
touring
the
zoo.
Many
times
our
staff
out
there,
the
animals
number
one
all
the
staff
their
animals
will
come
first,
if
there's
any
danger
to
exams
whatsoever.
This
would
not
be
supported
by
our
staff
and
by
our
new
seal.
D
I
can
tell
you
that
for
sure
so,
with
that
I
take
go
up,
I'm
sure,
mr.
you
don't
love
to
have
you
come
up
and
visit
the
zoo
quote
there,
look
what
they're
doing
this
was
passed
by
their
board
unanimously
and
I
think
they
are
trying
to
get
the
budget
our
budget.
She
should
be
happy
with
this
that
they
are
stepping
outside
the
box,
so
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
how
strangely.
N
You
very
very
much
madam
Speaker
I
will
not
be
supporting
the
motion
before
us
and
and,
of
course,
I
recognize
that
those
who
are
on
the
on
the
zoo
board
are
trying
to
provide
good
stewardship
and
management
of
a
facility
that
serves
a
particular
purpose,
but
I
actually
am
challenged
with
the
purpose
of
this
facility.
And
the
challenge,
of
course,
is
the
talk
about
conservation
in
this
in
the
zoo
world,
where
the
zoo
lexicon
is
really
about
still
talking
about
animals
in
captivity
and
all
the
good
intentions
at
the
end
of
the
day.
N
What
it
is
is
animals
in
captivity
for
our
entertainment.
There
may
have
been
at
a
particular
point
in
time.
Some
educational
value
I
believe
that
zoos
may
have
served,
but
in
this
particular
error
that
is
all
long
has
moved
on
and
changed
I'm
not
satisfied,
madam
Speaker,
with
the
response
that
there
will
be
adequate
review
and
studies
of
the
animals
well-being
before
during
and
after
it
has
to
be
done
well
in
advance.
And
what
I'm
seeing
is
that
this
particular
initiative
right
now
is
led
by
a
desire
to
bring
enhance
visitor
experiences
to
the
zoo.
N
Well,
let
me
tell
you
in
the
downtown
area
that
I
work
in-
and
many
of
you
will
recognize
this-
is
that
we're
always
looking
for
enhanced
visitor
experiences.
How
do
we
bring
the
wow
factor
to
Yonge
Street?
How
do
we
ensure
we
have
the
wow
factor
in
the
museums
and
the
galleries?
How
do
we
create
a
wow
factor
along
the
waterfront
and
moment?
Factory
is
a
company
I'm
sure
will
deliver
they've
delivered
at
the
Super
Bowl
they've
delivered
of
the
Olympics
they
have
delivered
around
the
world,
but
that's
what
they
do.
N
They
create
the
digital
light
show,
and
it
is
purely
entertainment.
It's
no!
It's
no
greater
than
walking
through
an
aquarium
where
you
actually
don't
get
a
lot
of
education,
but
it's
almost
like
a
very
dynamic
screensaver
of
washing
the
fish
and
the
sharks
swim
around.
Imagine
your
world
in
the
natural
environment
being
endless
oceans
and
then
being
put
into
a
bowl.
Imagine
your
environment
as
a
majestic
elephant,
roaming,
the
African
Sahara
and
then
being
put
into
a
small
little
contained
area.
That's
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Why
I
can't
support
this
I?
N
Do
think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
longer
strategy
about
what
true
conservation
is
and
true
conservation
is
about
protecting
the
natural
environment,
where
the
animals
are
whether
they're
in
continental
Africa
or
perhaps
in
Asia,
or
even
here
in
North
America.
We
should
be
protecting
those
natural
environments
for
the
animals.
N
If
we
truly
deeply
care
about
conservation,
true
natural
conservation,
then
that's
what
we
would
be
doing
not
necessarily
exporting
animals
from
abroad
and
bringing
them
here
and
then
making
their
world
this
big,
where
they
have
the
entire
desert,
the
entire
rainforest,
and
we
put
them
into
small
little
areas,
even
though
we
are
giving
them
excellent
care.
But
it's
not
a
natural
environment
for
those
animals,
they're
held
in
captivity
and
they're
there
largely
for
entertainment,
and
that
to
me,
is
my
fundamental
challenge
here
and
which
is
why
I
can't
support
this
motion.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I'm,
a
new
appointee
to
the
the
Toronto
Zoo
board
and
I
had
an
excellent
tour
there
of
their
scientific
facility
that
they
have
and
they
are
developing
real
state-of-the-art
techniques,
including
metabolomics
and
I.
I've
done
this
sort
of
research
in
the
past
and
I
was
only
able
to
do
it
on
urine.
G
So
I
was
very
excited
to
hear
that
this
is
something
that's
now
been
expanded
into
analysis
of
of
animal
poop
and
it's
really
exciting
the
sorts
of
techniques
that
they're
doing,
because
these
techniques
are
developed
in
the
zoo
and
then
can
be
rolled
out
into
the
real
world
to
learn
what's
happening
to
these
species
in
nature,
they
also
have
an
intensive
breeding
program.
That's
there.
If
you
to
a
tour
of
the
facility,
you
can
see
that
there's
still
pandas
burn
that's
on
site
and
that
we're
still
contributing
to
a
panda
reproduction
in
the
world.
G
This
is
a
good
thing.
In
addition,
they
have
a
Blanding
turtle
reproduction
facility,
where
turtles
are
being
bred
and
released
into
rouge
Park.
A
lot
of
this
is
being
done
in
partnership
with
the
academic
community,
with
very
smart
scientists.
There's
lots
of
interns,
there's
lots
of
students,
it's
a
great
educational
experience,
not
just
for
the
public,
but
also
for
the
scientific
community
at
large.
In
addition,
as
you
go
on
this
tour
and
I,
invite
you
all
to
do
it,
it
was
very,
very
eye-opening.
G
They
tell
you
that
a
lot
of
this
is
about
choice,
choice
for
the
animals.
They
can
choose
to
be
up
close.
They
can
go
into
the
back,
it's
about
giving
them
a
choice,
it's
about
giving
them
enrichment
in
learning
experiences
and
while
nobody
likes
the
idea
of
animals
in
captivity.
What's
really
great
is
that
people
are
seeing
these
animals
and
by
seeing
them
they
care,
they
feel
that
they
are
bought
into
conservation.
They
want
to
protect
them
in
the
wild.
They
want
to
protect
them
in
the
African
savannah.
G
But
in
addition,
this
new
experience
through
Lumina
I
just
want
to
reiterate
it's
not
just
about
a
light
show.
The
theme
of
it
is
very
beautiful.
The
theme
is
it's
a
hundred
years
out,
we've
done
everything
right,
it's
not
post-apocalyptic.
This
is
about
the
future
that
we
can
have
if
we
work
together.
G
So,
on
that
basis,
I
strongly
urge
everyone
to
support
this
motion
that
has
been
brought
formed
for
us
today,
so
that
the
Toronto
Zoo
can
expand
their
reach
into
the
conservation
world
and
share
with
even
more
citizens
why
we
need
to
care
about
ecological
integrity,
why
we
need
to
care
about
all
of
these
animals,
many
of
them
that
are
on
the
brink
of
extinction.
Thank
you.
L
A
E
A
O
P
If
the
proposed
through
the
chair,
if
the
proposed
shelter
does
not
comply
with
the
performance
standards
in
the
zoning,
bylaw
first
of
all,
is
to
comply
with
the
land-use
provisions
and
if
it
doesn't
comply
with
the
performance
standards.
The
proponent,
in
this
case,
the
city,
would
have
to
seek
variances
at
the
committee
of
adjustment
or
depending
on
the
extent
of
the
variances,
come
forward
for
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
and
just
and
with
that
process
there
would
be
a
public.
It
would
be.
O
A
public
process
and
I
just
want
to
pick
up
on
on
part
of
your
answer.
If
it
was
a
change
of
you
say
from
industrial
to
residential,
that
too
would
trigger
a
public
more
extensive
one
around
an
official
plan.
Amendment
yes
right,
so
in
effect
by
saying
that
it's
now
as
of
right,
all
we're
doing
is
is
saying
that
our
zoning
bylaw
note
no
longer
discriminates
a
about
which
kind
of
person
can
reside
in
a
permitted
residential
zone.
The.
P
O
O
There
has
been
there
have
been
human
rights
tribunal
cases
recently,
I
believe
about
zoning
against
students
in
Hamilton
and
other
other
things
like
this.
It
has
been
a
consistent
principle
in
the
courts
that
municipal
governments
cannot
zone
who
lives
in
a
place,
but
can
only
a
zone
whether
or
not
it's
permissible
for
people
to
live
there
through.
H
O
D
The
chair
that
is
correct,
so
we've
been
looking
for
many
sites
over
the
last
24
months,
we've
been
successful
with
16
sites,
but
that's
out
of
looking
at
400,
it's
important
to
note
that
we
don't
get
the
vast
majority
or
we
don't
choose
to
go
to
the
vast
majority
of
sites.
A
small
subset
did
not
meet
these
specific
performance
standards.
I
think
there's
only
one
of
those
left
on
that
list.
All
of
those
are
gone,
which
is
another
part
of
the
reason
they
go
quickly.
D
So
the
reason
for
coming
here
to
change
this,
but
even
of
those
33.
Many
of
those
we
wouldn't
have
actively
gone
after
for
programmatic
reasons.
So
this
is
to
provide
the
most
flexibility
when
you
look
at
more
than
400
sites
or
400
sites,
and-
and
you
only
get
12
it's
to
make
sure
that
you
know
every
site
counts,
and
this
may
provide
us
an
opportunity
in
the
future
and.
O
I'm
not
this
next
question
is
I
mean
we
need
to
be
honest,
that
if
you
put
in
a
shelter
without
social
supports
and
without
programming,
there
can
be
an
impact
on
the
community,
but
that's
not
really
a
planning
or
zoning
issue.
That's
so
that's
a
decision
on
the
part
of
this
council
about
whether
or
not
we
fund
appropriate
supports.
Is
that
a
sort
of
correct
way
to
understand
that
really.
Q
R
Through
you,
madam
chair,
there
are
a
number
of
stages
that
we
take.
The
first
is
real
estate
conducts
search
for
us
based
on
some
parameters,
of
which
zoning
requirements
is
one
of
the
first
hurdles.
Once
we've
located
a
site,
we
often
go
and
do
a
site
visit
and
we
do
a
site
assessment
to
determine
both
the
physical
nature
of
the
building
and
also
at
the
community
surrounding
it.
R
R
Q
R
R
R
It
would
it
would
keep
some
options
at
least
to
go
through
the
first
hurdle.
The
first
hurdle,
as
I
said,
is
looking
at
the
zoning,
so
you
know
it
allow
us
to
do
the
next
stage,
which
is
to
do
that
comparison
of
what
is
the
community
capacity
fit
with
the
population
that
we
intend
to
bring
there.
Okay.
Thank
you.
I
D
I
I
D
I
P
I
P
Essentially,
as
mr.
Roffe
just
indicated,
we've
had
a
problem
in
our
in
our
in
our
search.
Our
search
work
that
we've
done.
The
experience
to
date
has
represented,
has
identified
a
problem
on
about
15
percent
15
percent
of
the
time.
So
it's
an
indicative
situation
that
we
want
to
improve
by
removing
these
these
two
potential
barriers,
knowing
that
each
and
every
time
an
exhaustive
search
is
done,
criteria
are
applied.
This
won't
help
us
in
every
situation.
Well
it,
but
it
will.
P
G
D
D
P
G
G
P
P
The
the
focus
of
the
zoning
yeah-
essentially
yes,
in
this
situation,
but
we
try
to
we
try
to
focus
on
the
impact
of
the
the
building
and
the
impacts
that
it
has
on
its
surrounding.
So
we
would
if
a
municipal
shelter
was
a
proposed
in
an
area
it
would
have
to
comply
with
the
height
limit
in
the
area,
setbacks
any
any
open
space
provisions.
G
P
The
bylaws
in
front
of
Council,
it's
been
through
a
statutory
process.
It's
in
your
hands
is
to
decide
whether
or
not
you
want
to
amend
the
bylaw
and
eliminate
these
provisions.
Our
advice
is,
as
it
was
in
2003
is
that
separation
distance
is
not
recommended
because
it
deals
more
with
the
user
and
the
use.
Our
advice
stands
twenty
years
later
that
this
is
not
the
way
to
approach
the
placement
of
shelters
in
the
city.
Okay,.
L
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
just
want
to
use
a
real
situation.
I
had
a
I
think
everybody
knows
a
shelter,
that's
about
to
open
up.
In
my
ward,
a
men's
shelter
over
on
Kingston
Road.
We
make
these
changes
the
potential
the
possibility
of
having
another
shelter
open
up
down
the
street.
It
would
that
be
a
reasonable
conclusion
if
we
support
these
recommendations
through.
D
L
L
There
could
be
a
potential
another
shelter,
so
you're
saying
that
that
not
may
not
necessarily
be
the
case.
We
still
need
to
go
through
a
proper
process
to
ensure
that
we
can.
It
meets
many
many
other
needs
then.
So
this
is
not
my
community
to
be
looking
this
going.
Oh
man,
we
will
be
able
to
open
up
another
shelter
just
like
next
door.
That's
not
the
case.
If
we
support
this
through.
D
D
F
H
F
P
Think
through
the
speaker,
addressing
our
our
legacy
bylaws,
if
you
will
in
respect
of
distance
separations
in
particular,
is
something
that
we're
mindful
of
given
the
human
rights
issues
that
have
been
raised
over
the
last
10
to
20
years.
Yes,
this
council
did
amend
its
group
own
bylaws
in
2012
to
remove
the
separation
distance
provisions.
So
it's
entirely
consistent
for
this
council
to
continue
to
address
separation,
distance
issues
in.
F
P
F
H
F
B
Here
we
have
to
lead,
and
that
involves
not
just
making
the
decision
to
act
but
also
carrying
through
with
that
normally
to
sort
of
decide
on
exactly
how
we
will
make
sure
that
that
action
actually
occurs.
We
make
things
happen
and
so
on
shelter
and
homelessness.
Where
we
all
agree,
we
have
a
significant
challenge.
We
took
a
decision
and
there
were
quite
a
few
debates
in
here.
We
took
a
decision.
B
So
we
know
the
what
of
what
it
is
that
we
need
to
do
here.
We
know
the,
why
of
how
we
have
to
do
it
and
one
of
the
other
issues
that
comes
before
us-
and
none
of
these
are
easy-
is
the
where
it's
the.
Where,
where
are
we
going
to
be
making
available
as
needed?
The
the
shelter
and
the
other
kinds
of
support
for
people
who
are
in
need
of
our
of
our
help,
and
we
presently
rely
on
making
those
decisions.
B
The
city
administration
broadly
does
on
a
series
of
bylaw
criteria
that
I
believe
I'm
right
in
saying
we're
putting
place
in
2003
some
16
years
ago.
So
we
have
the
benefit
of
not
only
looking
at
those
and
saying
well.
Are
they
I
think
it
was
a
time
of
different
need
in
the
city?
It
was
a
time
of
different
real
estate
reality
in
the
city,
but
also
we
have
15
years
16
years
of
being
able
to
look
and
see
whether
some
of
the
parameters
of
those
rules
achieved
the
public
policy
objective.
B
So
in
the
end,
because
I'm
getting
to
the
end
of
my
time
at
a
speaker,
I
think
this
comes
down
to
three
things,
not
so
much
any
arbitrary
measure.
Whatever
number
you
wanted
to
pick,
I
think
it
comes
down
to
three
things.
First
of
all,
do
we
have
confidence
and
trust
in
the
judgment
of
our
city
staff,
the
challenge
that
we've
put
in
front
of
them
and
that
the
people
have
put
in
front
of
them?
I
will
tell
you,
for
my
sake,
that
I
do
I
do.
B
I
was
proud
of
that
and
I
know
this
city,
and
this
council
and
our
staff
are
at
mostly
the
people
are
quite
capable
of
dealing
with
this
in
a
manner
that
doesn't
require
an
arbitrary
standard
requires
good
will
and
good
judgment,
all
of
which
I
think
we
have
in
abundance,
and
so
I
will
be
proudly
supporting
this
as
being
the
right
thing
to
do
in
this
instance.
Thank
you
very
thank.
A
J
Well,
thank
you
speaker.
It
was
18
months
ago
in
this
chamber
when
I
moved
a
motion
directing
staff
to
report
back
on
this
very
item
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why
I
initially
moved
that,
because
the
restrictions
on
zoning
came
to
my
mind
when
there
was
a
site
located
within
Kensington
Market
that
we
wanted
to
purchase
for
a
shelter.
J
J
J
S
Thank
you,
so
I
have
a
motion
that
City
Council
refer:
the
item
to
the
chief
planner,
an
executive
director,
City
Planning
and
direct
the
chief
planner,
an
executive
director,
City
Planning
and
the
general
manager,
sheltered
housing,
some
Housing
Administration
to
report
to
the
Planning
and
Housing
Committee
as
soon
as
possible
and
I,
and
as
soon
as
possible,
could
mean
its
next
meeting
on
alternative
solutions
to
provide
additional
shelter,
housing
sites
in
appropriate
locations.
So
there
is
no
disagreement
here.
I
want
to
be
really
clear.
S
There
is
no
disagreement
from
me
that
we
need
to
provide
more
shelter
housing
that
we
need
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
city
to
house
people
who
need
it,
who
are
not
currently
getting
that
housing.
No
disagreement
here,
I'm
also
a
big
proponent
and
believer
in
public
process
and
public
process
should
be
like
for
for
everything
even
like.
When
we
build
a
new
school,
something
that's
good.
We
have
a
public
process
and
to
eliminate
public
process
on
something
that
has
a
major
impact
or
could
have
a
major
impact
on
a
neighborhood.
S
Whether
positive
or
negative
should
only
be
done
if
there
is
no
other
way
of
doing
it.
So
all
I'm
proposing
here
is
that
we
look
at
here's
what
the
situation
is.
We
need
this.
This
many
more
shelters
bases
here
are
the
possible
locations.
Here's
how
the
current
rules
don't
allow
us
to
do
those
here's,
how
we
adjust
those
rules
in
order
to
do
what
we
want
to
do
and
I
think
that
can
be
done
through
an
adjustment
to
the
rules,
not
by
eliminating
all
rules
and,
if
I'm
wrong
about
that.
S
If
I'm
wrong
about
that,
then
at
when
this
comes
back
here,
if
it
does,
I
would
stand
up
and
say:
I
thought
we
could
tweak
the
rules,
but
I
was
wrong
and
we
can't
so
I
will
support
what
what
is
coming.
The
recommendations
that
are
coming
forward,
I
think
we
owe
it
to
our
communities
and
I'm
talking
again
about
public
process.
How
we
do
things
here
in
determining
what
goes
where
we
owe
it
to
our
communities
to
see.
S
You
know
why
a
big
building
they
don't
want
has
to
go
in
because
it
complies
with
the
Official
Plan
or
that
a
shelter
is
needed
at
a
certain
location
and
as
people
who
care
about
other
people,
we
should
be
allowing
that
I.
Don't
have
a
problem,
doing
that
and
hopefully
all
the
rest
of
us
don't
either
what
I
can't
stand
up
in
front
of
people
and
defend
is
why
we
voted
to
completely
cut
them
out
of
the
process,
to
cut
ourselves
out
of
the
process
and
to
cut
them
the
process.
S
I,
don't
believe
in
that
I
believe
that
people
are
fundamentally
intelligent
and
good,
and
there
is
not
a
if
you're
going
to
do
that.
You
have
to
have
a
very
good
reason
to
do
it.
So
I
think
this
can
probably
I
think
there
probably
is
a
solution
here
and
you
know
I
know
and
I'm,
not
I'll
say
this
about
the
planning
and
Housing
Committee
is
it
I
think
has
more
brain
power
than
any
other
committee
in
the
city.
It
has
more
passion
to
do
good
things.
S
S
Q
You
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
to
the
councillor
I,
appreciate
the
concern
about
the
public
consultation
but
I
just
I'm
wondering
if
you
understand
that,
there's
nothing
that
we
removed
from
the
public
consultation
that
the
robust
public
consultation
continues
to
exist
around
the
placement.
Actually
in
the
last
year
and
a
half
that
has
been
significantly
increased,
the
consultation,
the
way
that
we
involve
communities
in
the
English,
shelter
locations.
S
A
Q
S
A
O
S
O
O
Parshin
I'm
asking
the
question:
I'm
asking,
is
very
specific
for
a
shelter
that's
approved
without
this
amendment
to
the
zoning
bylaw.
It
does
not
come
to
this
council
for
approval.
It
does
not
go
to
the
committee
of
adjustment
for
approval.
There
is
no
decision-making
through
a
formal
City
mechanism.
It's
done
delegated
to
staff.
Do
you
object
to
that
for
the
current
locations
that
are
permitted?
Don't
you
only
want
to
object
to
that
in
new
locations.
S
No
again,
that's
an
oversimplification
of
what
I'm
trying
to
achieve
what
I'm
trying
to
find
out
is
if
we
can
tweak
the
existing
rules,
so
they
seem
to
work
for
a
period
of
time.
They
seem
to
not
be
working
at
the
moment
because
they
are
too
restrictive
for
some
locations
which
staff
think
are
appropriate
and
I
think
which
the
councillors
think
are
appropriate.
So
let's
tweak
the
rules
to
solve
that
problem
rather
than
eliminate
the
rules.
That's
all
I'm,
saying
I'm
wrong
about
that.
O
I
hear
you
correctly
in
your
remarks
about
why
we
should
refer.
This
item
is
that
you
always
object
to
two
uses
going
in
without
some
kind
of
public
process.
Did
I
hear
you
correctly
yep,
yet
you
don't
object
to
the
shelter
use
going
in
in
current
currently
permitted
areas
without
that
public
process.
So
your
objection
is
only
for
the
new
locations
not
for
the
current
locations.
My.
A
T
S
S
A
I
This
is
a
really
important
thing
for
us
to
do
today,
as
we've
heard
over
and
over,
we
don't
dome
for
people
we
zone
for
use,
and
we
really
do
need
to
to
try
our
best
and
be
careful
not
to
conflate
the
idea
that
separation
distances
somehow
address
the
issues
associated
with
the
concentration
of
shelters
density
is
based
on
many
different
factors.
Most
important,
of
course,
is
need,
but
also
the
viability
and
the
availability
of
the
sites.
I
Today
we
heard
that
more
than
50
sites
have
actually
been
taken
out
of
consideration
because
of
our
zoning
bylaws.
More
specifically,
33
sites
have
been
taken
out
of
consideration
because
of
these
particular
amendments
that
we
need
to
make
today
and
we're
also.
We've
also
heard
that
delaying
this
will
compromise
our
ability
to
deliver
on
our
commitment.
I
This
councils,
commitment
of
a
thousand
new
shelter
beds
during
the
budget
process,
I
asked
questions
about
why
we
were
significantly
under
spent
on
the
shelter
budgets
just
over
fifty
fifty
percent,
fifty
five
percent,
and
what
we
heard
was
the
ability
to
locate
sites.
The
viability
of
these
sites
was
part
of
that
issue.
If
resolving
the
zoning
issues
that
we've
been
at
for
more
than
18
months
now,
councillor
Kraske
brought
that
motion
forward.
18
months
ago,
staff
have
been
working
tirelessly
on
this
we've
done
consultation.
There
is
a
consultation
process
through
the
shelters.
I
T
You,
madam
Speaker,
we
would
appreciate
the
thoughts
and
the
concerns
that
were
raised
and
certainly
I
had
some
concerns
about
the
referral
motion.
That's
why
I
supported
it.
However,
I
do
like
to
speak
about
one
particular
case
that
I
asked
staff
yesterday
and
I
found
a
little
bit
strange
in
an
employer's
own.
We
can
actually
put
up
a
hotel
fair
enough,
so
if
the
city
was
to
put
up
to
build
a
hotel
and
then
turn
around
and
rent
it
to
ourselves,
then
we
can
put
homeless
people
in
there.
T
And
yet,
when
a
Community
Association
says
I
got
free,
space
will
divide,
it
will
work
with
it,
zoning
and
all
that
stuff
in
order
to
bring
homeless
people
in
what
does
the
building
department
do
the
planning
department
No?
So
that's
where
my
concern
is
on
one
side:
we
can
go
down,
you
know
just
go
around
it,
but
on
the
other
side,
when
somebody
could
step
forward
and
says
I
can
put
up
150
beds,
we
certainly
say
no
so
as
we
vote
on
today
and
we
move
on
this
file.
T
T
You
very
much
speaker,
Speaker
I,
rise
to
support
the
item
in
front
of
us.
First
and
foremost,
I
want
to
thank
the
staff
in
shelter
and
support,
as
well
as
our
planning
staff,
recognizing
that
we're
actually
failing
to
meet
our
own
mandate.
This
council's
mandate,
recognizing
the
challenges
that
they're
actually
having
when
this
particular
policy
came
into
place.
I,
don't
believe
I
was
a
counselor
at
that
time,
because
it's
quite
some
time
ago,
before
I
became
a
member
of
this
council.
I
recall.
T
Being
here,
though,
and
the
discussion
was
essentially
to
zone
for
people,
it
was
to
restrict
people
to
be
located
in
certain
areas.
That
was
the
intent
of
it.
We
know
now
that
from
the
solicitor
first
of
all,
that's
illegal,
it's
discriminatory
I,
don't
think
any
one
of
us
want
to
be
part
of
that
particular
practice.
I
think
we
want
to
address
some
fundamental
challenges
and
needs
that
exists
in
this
city.
Our
staff
have
been
doing
an
amazing
job.
T
I
know
this
because
I
meet
with
them,
often
because
the
shelter
and
support
services
comes
under
the
Community
Development
piece
of
what
I'm
responsible
for
is
chair
of
economic
and
Community,
Development
and
I.
Think
we
need
to
be
strong
with
respect
to
the
the
focus
and
the
attention
that
we
we
put
to
these
particular
matters.
There
are
those
who
would
want
to
suggest
that
it's
okay
to
restrict,
obviously
the
entrance
of
certain
people
in
certain
neighborhoods
and
I.
T
Don't
stand
for
that,
and
I
know
you
don't
either
I
just
want
to
address
a
comment
that
my
colleague
from
Scarborough
has
made
and
through
the
questioning
of
staff
regarding
the
use
of
employment
lands
and
looking
at
setting
up
a
hotel,
and
he
did
reference
a
specific
name
of
an
organization.
This
amento
as
a
matter.
T
They've
gone
to
the
prime
minister,
the
finance
minister,
the
mayor,
the
former
premier,
the
current
premier,
and
so
on,
to
get
the
uses
to
be
allowed
in
the
area
knowing
full
well
that
at
the
outset,
when
they
asked,
if
they
could,
you
know
permit
this
use
was
permitted.
They
were
told
no
and
they've
come
forward
saying.
Well,
we
want
to
create
shelters
for
a
variety
of
different
uses
and
so
on.
We
know
full
well,
that's
not
really
what
they
wanted
to
do.
N
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
Speaker
I
also
will
be
rising
to
support
the
recommendations
of
staff
have
put
in
front
of
us
today.
I
do
recognize
that
some
of
the
concerns
that
members
of
council
have
expressed
is
not
necessarily
about
the
location,
I
believe
it's
actually
about
the
performance
and
the
service
delivery
of
the
shelters,
and
sometimes
we
know
we
have
gotten
it
wrong
in
the
past.
We
would
never
ever
replicate
the
creation
of,
for
example,
a
Seton
house.
We
know
that
is
not
the
way
to
go.
550
people
crammed
into
an
institution
doesn't
work.
N
I
also
think
that
the
planning
and
housing
initiative
right
now,
that's
before
us
in
terms
of
the
amendments
to
zoning
and
creating
greater
as
of
right
of
permissions,
is
not
really
the
the
tool
I
mean.
First
of
all,
it's
definitely
not
the
tool
that
we
need
to
get
to
the
the
source
of
those
concerns.
The
source
of
those
concerns
is
really
about
operations,
and
that
is
a
different
conversation.
It
is
not
about
zoning,
it
is
not
about
land
use
that
has
to
go
through
the
economic
and
Community
Development
Committee.
That
goes
to
the
shelter
standards.
N
It
goes
to
our
third-party
partnerships
that
are
out
there.
That's
where
we
address
the
operational
pieces
I'm
holding
in
my
hands
a
report
from
the
Ontario
Human
Rights
Commission.
It's
called
in
the
zone,
housing,
Human,
Rights
and
municipal
planning.
It's
a
pretty
fast
short
read.
I
want
to
just
highlight
that
for
everyone,
it
is
a
very
short
read,
but
at
the
core
of
it
it
actually
talks
about
the
things
that
we
cannot
do
and
as
a
municipality
as
a
municipality,
especially
as
elected
officials.
We
are
not
exempt
from
the
Ontario
Human
Rights
Commission.
N
That
does
not
it.
We
don't
get
to
override
that
the
Ontario
Human
Rights
Code
is
a
quasi
constitutional
document
and
it
actually
overrides
the
Planning
Act
the
building
act
and
it
overrides
the
municipal
code
and
it
will
even
override
the
City
of
Toronto
act.
So
we
actually
contravene
the
human
rights
of
individuals,
including
where
they
get
to
live
or
where
they
get
this
day
or
even
if
they're
temporarily
accommodated.
N
We
are
then
violating
their
human
rights
and
it's
absolutely
critical
that
we
don't
use
a
land-use
planning
tool
to
facilitate
that
and
I
know
that
we
will
most
likely
lose
our
precedent
after
precedent,
municipalities,
local
governments,
territories
and
provinces.
Whenever
they
run
up
against
the
Human
Rights
Code,
they
will
lose
and
it
also
speaks
to
the
values
of
ourselves
as
a
city
as
an
elected
body
and
I
and
I
want
to
just
make
it
really
clear
is
that
it's
really
difficult
right
now
for
staff
to
place
shelters,
it's
also
difficult
for
rooming
houses.
N
It's
been
typical
with
secondary
suites,
it's
been
difficult
around
halfway
houses,
it's
been
difficult
around
transitional
homes
as
supportive
housing.
It's
every
separable
way
every
step
of
the
way
there
has
been
challenges
for
people
who
are
low-income,
who
are
homeless,
who
are
receiving
social
assistance
to
find
accommodation
and
in
the
middle
of
a
housing
crisis.
The
last
thing
we
need
to
do
as
an
order
of
government
whose
primary
function
is
to
to
govern
around
land-use
planning.
We
cannot
be
putting
up
another
obstacle,
so
it's
time
has
come.
I
hope
that
we
actually
can
support.
N
N
The
entire
stock
of
the
entire
city
is
it
currently
now
reallocated
in
the
in
the
new
war,
13
I
know
the
challenges
of
of
the
community
and
I
know
that
it
would
make
a
big
difference,
a
big
difference
to
everyone
if
we
can
actually
think
proactively
and
constructively
around
housing
with
the
human
rights
lens,
everyone
has
a
right
to
housing
and
accommodation.
This
is
a
fundamental
basic
of
Covenant
that
comes
all
the
way
from
the
UN.
The
international
community
is
asking
us
by
way
of
our
government.
N
Our
national
government,
who
has
signed
on
a
number
of
these
treaties,
and
we
as
a
sub-national
government,
are
bound
by
that,
and
what
I
found
extremely
frustrating
is
that
we
can't
talk
about
the
housing
crisis
without
delivering
outcomes.
Yes,
we've
over
under
spent
in
the
in
and
underperformed
in
finding
and
locating
those
shelters,
but
it's
also
critically
important
to
know
that
some
of
the
criterias
are
wrong.
N
Should
we
be
looking
for
20,000
square
feet
of
facility
to
put
a
hundred
people
into
a
building
when
we
know
that
best
practices
tells
tells
us
that
we
should
really
be
looking
at
about
25
to
50
beds
per
facility?
We
got
to
get
that
right
as
well,
and
so,
but
that's
not
before
us
today,
what's
before
us,
is
only
the
zoning
piece
I
think
we
need
to
move
this
forward
as
soon
as
possible.
Thank
you.
A
Q
It's
actually
continues
to
be
quite
steady,
so
the
need
to
have
these
beds
and
to
not
have
a
crisis
every
fall
and
every
winter
and
to
make
sure
that
we
give
the
tools
to
our
staff
to
find
these
beds.
You
know
it's
not
only
enough
to
come
here
and
say:
okay,
we're
approving
a
thousand
beds.
We
have
to
set
up
and
to
give
the
tools
to
our
staff
to
succeed
in
finding
these
beds
and
when
they
come
to
us
and
saying
there's
something
that
is
preventing
us
from
all
the
sites
that
we've
looked.
Q
Q
Give
you
this,
because
a
zoning
bylaw
that
says
that
it
has
to
be
80
meet
80
meters
and,
like
the
mayor,
said,
it's
a
meet
a
minute
walking
distance
from
a
Main
Street
on
something
that
we
know
that
we
have
been
advised
that
we
can
actually
be
even
challenged
on
a
human
rights
basis,
because
we
are
now
zoning
on
based
on
what
that
homeless.
People
can't
live
in
our
neighborhoods
that
we
have
to
place
people
with
it
as
a
certain
distance.
Q
Let's
be
honest,
we
do
have
a
public
process.
We've
changed.
Actually
the
public
process
around
shelters.
We
know
that
there
has
been
some
issues
in
the
past.
We've
changed
that
process.
We've
changed
the
services
that
actually
go
inside
a
shelter
we
have
committed
and
are
working
on
the
supportive
housing
and
housing
issues,
and
actually
there
will
be
further
motions
later
today
to
talk
about
this,
but
the
reality
is
that
is
still
pressure
going
on.
In
our
system
we
have.
This
chamber
has
approved
a
thousand
beds.
Q
We
need
to
get
on
with
building
a
thousand
beds
and
I
truly
believe
that
all
25
of
my
colleagues
and
including
the
mayor
can
do
the
work
with
their
communities
to
bring
the
services
that
is
needed,
because
these
are
services
that
are
not
needed.
Just
in
one
pocket
of
the
city.
Homelessness,
unfortunately,
is
well
in
the
four
corners
of
the
city
is
well
all
over
the
city,
and
so
when
we
talk
about
putting
shelters
in
our
communities,
it's
actually
to
address
an
issue.
The
same
way
that
we
place
a
library
that
we
place
the
school.
Q
A
L
Council
recess
its
public
session
to
meet
his
committee
of
the
whole
in
closed
session
to
consider
appointment,
CC,
4.1,
appointment
of
public
members
to
the
Toronto
Transit
Commission.
The
reason
for
confidential
information,
personal
matters
about
identifiable
individuals
who
are
being
considered
for
appointment
to
the
Toronto
Transit
Commission
and
see
a
4.2
appointment
of
a
public
member
of
the
Toronto
Public
Library,
where
a
board
reason
for
confidential
information,
personal
matters
but
identifiable
individual
who
are
being
considered
for
appointment
to
the
Toronto
Public
Library
Board.
Okay,.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you.
City
Council
has
completed
its
closed
session,
consideration
of
item
CA
4.1
at
C,
a
4.2
on
appointments
of
public
members
to
the
Toronto
Transit
Commission,
and
the
Toronto
Public
Library
Board
no
motions
were
made
in
closed
session.
City
Council
will
now
recess
for
lunch
to
resume
at
2:00
p.m.