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City Council, meeting 31, July 6, 2017 - Part 3 of 3 - Evening Session
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A
B
I'm,
just
looking
up
the
page
number,
my
eye,
counselor
didn't
or
maybe
he's
doing
the
same
thing
as
me.
There
were
two
members,
motions
and
I've
talked
to
counselors.
Raccattack
raccattack
is
but
she's,
not
quite
back
yet
so
we
could
remove
if
it's
the
will
of
Council
mm.
Thirty-One
point
three:
three:
on
page
eight
street
signs
in
East
York,
as
well
as
councillor
fraca,
daka's
motion,
cracking
actresses
motion
on.
B
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F
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C
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C
A
E
E
A
E
A
B
D
A
I
I
I
A
C
A
A
A
A
E
E
Apologies:
this
came
on
fairly
quickly
and
was
dealt
with
very
quickly,
but
on
the
matter
of
158
sterling
Road,
three
one,
six
thirty
one
point:
sixty
two
I'm
going
to
ask:
I'm
gonna,
ask
councils,
indulgence
and
reopening
that,
because
I
I
didn't
even
seen
the
notice
of
motion
and
my
son
has
a
condominium
he's
signed
an
agreement
of
purchase
and
sale
on
that
is
in
in
proximity
to
that
and
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution.
I
think
I
should
ask
for
the
vote
to
be
retaken
and
that
I
should
declare
an
interest.
A
D
A
D
E
J
A
K
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
was
as
a
member
of
the
TTC
I
originally
voted
in.
Opposition
of
this
I
thought
that
the
King
Street
project,
the
pilot
project,
was
too
restrictive.
I,
don't
like
the
restrictions
on
the
taxi
industry,
I'm,
not
crazy
about
the
removal
of
all
the
parking
which
I
still
don't
think
is
absolutely
necessary.
I
thought
that
we
there
might
have
been
a
way
to
allow
left-hand
turn
lanes.
K
Advance
left-hand
turns
as
no
cars
are
going
straight
through,
but
I
realized
that
that
was
unworkable
and
I
also
was
skeptical
about
the
impact
on
business
until
I
went
down
there
and
walked
along
walked
a
couple
of
kilometers
along
the
route
and
realized
that
most
of
those
people
in
the
businesses.
They
looked
a
lot
like
Joe
Cressy
there.
Those
are
the
customers
right
there
and
you
know
they're
all
they're,
all
sort
of
they're,
all
sort
of
they're,
all
sort
of
they're,
all
sort
of.
E
K
Well,
they're,
what
I
meant
by
that
we're
hip
urbanites
who
walked
through
those
places
right
so
there
well
I
was
I,
was
doing
investigative
reporting
down
there,
so
so
no
I
and
I.
In
all
seriousness,
the
only
business
that
might
be
affected.
That
I
saw
there's
a
lot.
There
are
a
number
of
business
establishments
that
are
not
relied
upon.
K
And
so
but
I
I
mean,
although
it
might
seem
that
we're
I
haven't,
had
a
single
call
or
email
on
this
topic
so
but
I
am
interested
in
it,
and
I
and
I
recognize
the
need
to
move
people
and,
as
has
been
drummed
home
to
us
many
times
by
mister
Byford.
This
is
one
of
the
busiest
routes
of
the
city
in
the
city
and
we
need
to
move
people
quickly,
so
I'll
be
supporting
those
bigger.
Thank.
A
L
B
You
know,
there's
I've
only
been
here
coming
on
two
three
years:
there
isn't
a
law
from
a
citywide
initiative
that
I've
been
really
excited
about
that's
happening
here,
but
this
is
something
that
I'm
really
excited
about
and
I
think
it's
a
pilot
that
that
it's
it's
it's
a
pilot
project.
That's
certainly
worth
its
weight
in
gold.
I,
really
don't
care
with
special
interests
are
being
affected
here,
we're
building
a
transit
corridor.
So
everybody
else
just
has
to
kind
of
become
second
fiddle
to
this
so
again,
I'll
be
supporting
the
mayor's
motion.
I'll
be
sorting.
B
L
It
was
100%
paid
for
by
the
private
sector
and
I
think
we
should
be
looking
at
that
here.
At
the
same
time,
you
know
the
taxis
have
to
be
treated
fairly.
They
represent
a
important
link
of
our
downtown
transportation
network.
I.
Think
the
the
mayor's
motion
will
do
that
I
think
it
gives
them
the
leniency
and
the
flexibility
they
need.
Could
they
use
a
wider
window
for
for
access
sure
they
could.
But
this
is
a
pilot
program
and
we'll
see
we'll
see
how
it
goes
and
we'll
certainly
wait
to
hear
back
from
the
transit.
L
The
transit
industry
embedded
in
this
report
is
also
a
recognition
that
we'll
lose
about
two
million
dollars
in
parking
revenue
every
year.
That
is,
that
is
an
item
that
usually
hits
us
at
the
bottom
line,
come
budget
time
where
we
start
moving
motions
for
a
hundred
thousand
here
and
a
fifty
thousand
there
and
a
million
dollars
there.
L
Where
will
be
the
voices
of
rent
supplement
agreements,
student
nutrition
programs,
as
well
as
as
well
day
care
subsidies
when
it
comes
right
down
to
what
we
see?
There's
not
enough
in
the
budget.
Its
decisions
like
this
that
usually
come
back
to
haunt
us.
This
actually
is
a
microcosm
of
what's
wrong
with
the
city,
and
our
finances
is
as
long
as
we
keep
chipping
away
at
our
revenue
sources.
We
have
a
tough
time
of
supporting
vital
services
infrastructure.
L
Well,
I.
You
know,
with
with
all
due
respect,
we
have
bigger
transit
requirements
and
demands
that
we
should
be
accessing
that
fund
forward.
We
shouldn't
be
burning
our
usage
of
it
and,
from
that
point
of
view,
I
can
only
conclude
by
thanking
staff.
I
know
a
lot
of
work
was
done
on
it
and
a
lot
of
thought,
and
there
were
a
lot
of
community
consultations
with
great
turnout,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
think
it's
triage
transit
and
corporate
welfare.
M
You,
madam
Speaker
and
I'd
like
to
echo
counsel
astronauts
thanks
and
gratitude
to
our
staff.
I,
you
know,
was
very
happy
to
to
sit
down
and
go
over
the
residents
concerns
about
this
pilot
project
with
staff,
and
they
were
very
open
to
those
concerns
and
when
I
thank
them
for
bringing
a
good
report
to
Council.
But
having
said
that,
I
am
not
convinced
that
no
coming
from
an
Etobicoke
perspective
that
that
this
will
work
for
our
residents
in
the
northwest.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
talk
about.
You
know
this
is
about
the
downtown
community.
M
But
then
it
goes
up
to
almost
a
million
people,
and
some
of
those
people
are
my
residents
who
have
to
commute
downtown
and
I
know.
Tasha
Campbell,
coming
from
a
Tomoko's
person,
perspective
and
I
know
that
you
know
many
of
the
downtown
folks
look
like
cows
Cressy,
but
a
lot
of
my
residents
look
like
councillor
campbell,
so.
M
M
You
know,
as
a
driver
from
north
to
tobiko
one
of
the
challenges
that
I
have
is
we
don't
have
the
off-ramp
on
the
gardener
anymore,
which
has
increased
the
travel
times
immensely
coming
into
downtown
Toronto.
You
know,
I,
don't
take
the
lure
respectfully,
because
that
has
been
slowed
down
by
the
bike
lanes
and
and
that's
that's
a
whole
different
debate,
but
you
know
I
I,
see
in
which
I
do
take
the
TTC
to.
M
H
You
speaker
I,
want
to
address
myself
to
some
of
the
remarks
made
by
councilor
holiday,
I,
I
hadn't,
intended
to
do
a
show-and-tell,
but
since
he
did
a
show
and
tell
I
think
I
have
to
rise
to
the
occasion.
If
you
recall
councillor
holiday,
central
thesis
was
that,
as
if
we
reduce
the
amount
of
road
space
and
cramped
the
roads,
then
the
heart
of
the
city
will
die.
Now.
Those
of
you
who
serve
with
me
for
a
long
time
know
that
in
my
office,
I
keep
a
small
selection
of
urban
textbooks.
H
If
you
will
and
I
have
one
that
addresses
this
point,
it's
called
cities
and
automobile
dependence,
it's
by
two
of
the
world's
best-known
transportation
planning
and
urban
planning,
thinkers,
Kenworthy
and
Newman
about
thirty
years
ago.
They
went
and
studied
40
cities
around
the
world,
including
Toronto
on
questions
like
the
relationship
between
road
space
and
jobs,
the
relationship
in
transit,
automobile
use
and
pollution,
and
they
have
some
specific
data
in
their
book.
That
I
think
addresses
the
point
councillor
holiday
made,
so
if
I
could
have
the
first
slide,
this
is
from
the
book.
H
H
Vertical
axis,
it's
showing
the
number
of
parking
spaces
per
person
or
sorry
the
number
of
people
per
parking
space.
So
the
higher
up
you
go
the
fewer
the
parking
spaces
and,
on
the
bottom
axis,
it's
showing
the
density
of
the
cities
in
the
bottom
right.
You
are
the
bottom
left.
You
have
cities
like
Phoenix,
Houston,
Los
Angeles,
at
the
top.
You
have
cities
like
Singapore,
Stockholm,
Amsterdam,
New,
York
and
the
bend
in
the
curve
you
have
Toronto.
H
So
what
this
shows
is
that
the
most
dense
cities
have
the
fewest
parking
spaces,
okay
per
person
to
the
next
one,
please
in
a
related
matter,
in
this
curve.
What
we're
looking
at
is
the
amount
of
gasoline
usage
on
the
vertical
axis
and
the
urban
density
on
the
horizontal
axis
and
again
you
have
Houston
Phoenix,
Detroit,
Denver,
Los,
Angeles,
lots
and
lots
of
gasoline
use
very
low
population
density
on
the
going
out.
H
The
other
way
you
have
Vienna
Singapore,
Tokyo,
Moscow,
Hong,
Kong,
so
very
little
gasoline
uses
lots
of
population
density
and
again
Toronto
sits
right
in
the
bend
in
the
curve.
Now
I
want
to
go
to
the
one
that
most
directly
addresses
what
councillor
Holliday
was
saying.
Now
you
won't
be
able
to
read
this,
but
I've
got
it
over
here.
H
If
you
want
the
details,
the
author's
then
went
and
looked
at
all
40
cities
and
group
them
by
density
and
for
the
very
look
in
so
there's
five
categories:
I'm
going
to
give
you
numbers
for
three
of
them.
The
first
category
is
very
low
density.
The
third
category
which
Toronto
is
in
medium
density
in
the
fifth
category,
is
high
density.
Now,
first,
they
look
at
population.
H
The
least
dense
cities
have
12
people
per
hectare
and
six
jobs
per
hectare,
medium
42
people
and
23
jobs,
high-density
117
people
and
53
jobs.
Now
here's
the
thing
that
addresses
councilor
holidays
points,
the
least
dense
cities
had
8
kilometers
of
road
per
capita,
the
medium
3
kilometers
and
the
most
dense
1
kilometer.
So
what
the
data
actually
shows
is
that
the
most
successful
downtown's,
those
vigorous
beating
hearts,
have
lots
of
people
and
very
little
road
space.
H
It's
actually
10
to
1
a
less
dense
city
has
ten
times
as
much
road
space
per
capita
but
one-tenth
as
many
jobs
and
people
living
in
the
downtown.
So,
contrary
to
what
councilor
Hollett
our
councillor
holiday
showed
you
if
you
want
a
healthy
beating,
vigorous
downtown
what
the
evidence,
the
actual
evidence
from
cities
around
the
world
shows,
is
that
you
should
be
having
less
road
space
available
to
automobiles,
not
more
that
space
should
be
allocated,
but
things
like
buildings,
commercial
towers
parks,
councillor,
cressie
and
other
amenities
that
make
the
downtown
functioning
thriving.
H
The
odd
the
road
space
takes
all
those
uses
away
so
councillor
holiday,
while
your
analogy
looked
exciting,
it's
actually
counterfactual.
The
best
way
forward
to
make
a
thriving
downtown
is
to
allocate
that
space
to
something
that
serves
a
vigorous,
intensifying
population
and
job
pop
density,
which
is
to
allocate
it
to
things
like
the
king
street
car.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
N
Madam
chair
I
am
I,
am
moving
the
10:00
p.m.
to
9:00
p.m.
this
is
the
transportation
of
taxicabs
for
us
to
consider
on
King
Street
pilot
project,
and
this
is
for
tax
caps
to
be
able
to
operate
from
9:00
p.m.
to
5:00
a.m.
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
come
into
the
district,
the
entertainment
district,
as
we
call
it.
N
N
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
appreciate
that
no
disrespect
to
my
colleague,
but
she
doesn't
know
how
many
times
they've
been
there
or
I
haven't
been
there.
You
do
not
hold
my
arm
when
I
travel
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
my
wife,
that's
my
wife
of
41
years.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Any
continuing
to
that
myself
and
my
wife
have.
E
N
G
You
know
it's
it's
important
to
take
councillor
Kerry
giannis
point
seriously
about
consulting
broadly,
even
though
it
happens
downtown
because,
as
councillor
Christy
mentioned,
you
know
the
population
triples
during
the
daytime
and
for
people
like
me,
who's
driving
downtown
because
of
lack
of
accessible
transit,
those
15-20
minutes
extra
being
downtown
in
the
core
to
get
to
City
Council,
for
example.
It's
important
time
as
well
so
I
think
I
think
it
is.
It
is
in
that
interest.
We
need
to
do
something
about
it.
I
mean
you
know.
G
My
best
routes
out
are
either
a
delayed
or
Richmond.
You
know
it's
one
way.
Usually
you
know
if
nobody
is
actually
blocking
the
sites
by
parking
illegally.
We
are
getting
through
much
faster,
so
we
have
to
try
different
things
and
it's
important
that
this
is
the
pilot
and
it's
important
that
that
we
find
in
a
very
ways
to
move
away
from
the
traditional
ways
we've
been
building
the
city's
transit
system
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
fabulous
ways
to
do
it.
It's
a
pilot
project.
G
G
Northeast
corner
I'm
glad
to
support
this,
because
this
is
an
innovative
city
planning
in
a
very
ways
to
look
at
issues
we
face
as
a
city
when
the
concentration
of
population,
both
in
terms
of
residents
as
well
as
in
terms
of
working
forces
increasing
within
downtown,
so
I
hope
others
will
take
that
step
as
well
and
try
something
new
and
try
to
address
the
gridlock.
So
thank
you.
I
will
stop
with
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
O
A
O
So
speaker,
thank
you,
and
so
you
know
we've
heard
about
King
Street
for
quite
some
time.
The
challenges
that
people
have
had
and
I
know
that
people
have
told
me
and
I
know
that
when
councillor
Vaughn
was
here,
the
discussion
was
around
the
fact
that
people
cry
actually
walk
faster
to
their
destination
than
in
fact
they
could
actually
take
a
a
streetcar
which
one
would
naturally,
when
you
first
hear
that
it's
like.
Is
that
true?
O
Humes
Grant
Humes,
actually
was
very
clear
to
me
said:
look
we've
been
a
part
of
this
for
quite
some
time,
we've
been
very
active
in
the
process
and
so
on,
and
so
now
I
wasn't
surprised
that
he
was,
but
I
was
surprised
at
their
response
that
he
gave
me,
and
he
said
you
know
we
had
some
concerns
and
it
was
they.
They
have
been
addressed
and
we
are
actually
supportive
of
this.
O
Well
that
blew
me
away
actually
because
I'd
assumed
that
in
fact,
they
were
not
supportive
of
it
because
of
what
the
business
leaders
had
told
me,
and
while
it's
important
what
the
business
leaders
have
said,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
was
very
clear
to
me
was
they
said.
Well,
we
can
get
our
employees
to
work
on
time.
O
We
can
get
people
to
be
more
productive
and
so
on,
while
I
understand
that
there
are
some
delays
and
while
and
said
that
there
is
a
bit
of
an
inconvenience
in
terms
of
you
having
the
ability
to
simply
drive
in
as
you
please,
and
now
it's
going
to
be
disrupted
to
a
large
extent
and
I
get
that,
and
this
is
something
that
we
have
obviously
accept
and
overcome.
I
have
no
doubt
that
this
will
actually
occur.
O
There
is
perhaps
the
need
to
do
more
of
this
in
terms
of
other
areas
in
the
community
and
in
the
city,
because
we
do
have
to
get
people
moving.
We
do
have
to
address
the
issue
around
gridlock,
but
I
have
to
say
this.
The
challenges
that
we're
dealing
with
here
in
Toronto
is
actually
not
unique.
In
fact,
I
would
actually
say
on
a
scale
of
one
to
ten.
Toronto
is
probably
not
even
at
a
five.
There
are
other
areas
that
are
much
more
problematic.
O
O
I
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker,
and
it's
great
to
hear.
Counselor
Tom
and
our
chair
of
Economic
Development
declare
that
he
is
okay
with
it,
because
I
am
also
okay
with
this
and,
of
course,
I
am
the
third
downtown
councillor
along
with
councillor
Krusty
and
councillor
Meccano
I
actually
get
to
represent
Midtown
and
downtown,
and
and
I
also
get
to
hear
the
balance
required
from
the
residents
when
they
say
how
do
we
move
around
the
downtown
core,
and
this
is
my
mode
of
transportation.
I
This
is
how
I
get
around
and
they'll
say,
they'll
generally
state
that
I
need
to
walk,
you
need
to
use
transit,
I
need
to
bike,
and
occasionally,
when
I
need
to
carry
some
very
heavy
things.
I
might
rent
a
car
or
I'll
borrow
a
car
or
I
get
the
car
share
and
that's
how
people
are
moving
around
as
they
come
into
the
downtown
core
and
that's
going
to
become
even
more
so
in
the
in
the
upcoming
years,
especially
as
downtown
starts
to
intensify
even
further,
especially
with
the
big
residential
boom
that
you're
seeing.
I
It's
also
important
to
note
that
city
staff
have
been
making
adjustments
to
to
the
King
Street
corridor
and
to
the
downtown
transportation
at
work.
Now,
for
a
number
of
years,
there's
been
a
number
of
operational
tweaks
that
have
demonstrated
that
there
isn't
quite
enough
that
was
done
in
it
and
it
wasn't
a
result.
I
All
those
tweaks
were
not
enough
and
when
they
came
to
brief
me
early
early
on
and
suggested
that
they
were
going
to
think
about
putting
together
a
pilot
project
and
it
may
be
seasonal
and
it's
a
weather
two
to
three
seasons.
It
was
still
undetermined.
The
first
thing
I
said
to
them
is
like
you've
got
to
have
a
two
year
pilot
project,
because
I
think
that,
for
a
project
of
this
size
and
magnitude
before
you
can
actually
study
it
determine
what
works
determine
what
doesn't
work.
How
do
you
refine
it?
I
How
do
you
tweak
it,
make
those
adjustments
and
then
go
back
and
measure
it?
You
actually
really
need
to
do
it
for
two
years,
not
one
year
and
not
just
a
few
seasons.
We
are
at
the
one-year
pilot
project,
I
think
that
personally
I
think
it
should
go
to
two
years,
but
that's
not
what's
before
us.
Today,
however,
it
is
before
us
and
what
I
did
say
to
them
at
that
time,
when
they
came
to
brief
me
I
said,
be
bold
and
be
ambitious.
This
is
King
Street.
I
We
cannot
make
any
more
modest
adjustments
and
I
think
they
were
so
relieved
to
hear
that,
because,
quite
honestly,
we
have
now
asked
transportation
staff
over
the
years
to
be
meek,
and
this
is
a
new
generation
of
planners,
a
new
generation
of
urban
planners
urban
designers,
transportation,
planners
transit
planners.
They
are
not
meek.
They
have
always
now,
during
my
time
at
Council,
risen
to
the
aspirations
of
what
the
city
can
be,
and
we
now
as
council
need
to
support
that
big
ambition.
So
I'm
really
happy
to
see
that
the
pilot
project
is
before
us.
I
I
also
want
to
recognize
that
the
issue
around
accessibility
has
been
very
much
given
a
lot
of
thought
of
during
during
the
the
planning
of
this
pilot
project.
I
know
that
they
have
given
a
lot
of
consideration
to
how
to
move
people
who
are
using
different
mobility
devices,
and
that
is
absolutely
critical,
which
is
why
we
need
to
find
ways
to
accommodate
accessibility
vehicles,
whether
it's
through
the
four
perpendicular
streets
along
King,
Street
and
finding
designated
areas
for
pickup
and
drop
off
boarding
and
deboarding.
I
So
I
want
to
thank
them
for
that,
because
I
know
that
that
was
not
lost
for
those
who
may
be
watching
this
debate,
who
belonged
to
the
accessibility
community
I
tell
you
right
now
that
the
staff
are
listening
and
they
will
take
your
concerns
into
consideration
and
then.
Finally,
as
the
city
rises
up
to
the
challenge
of
building
these
great
streets,
because
every
cities
that
are
great
have
great
streets
and
great
neighborhoods,
the
next
big
project
coming
down
the
pipeline
is
Yonge
Street
and
just
like
with
King
Street.
I
F
You
thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
think
I'm
going
to
be
a
little
bit
redundant
to
councillor
longtan.
You
know
I've
been
down
this
road
a
few
times
actually
in
my
life
here
at
City
Hall.
This
is
the
third
time
that
we've
struggled
with
with
whether
to
do
this
kind
of
pilot
or
put
on
a
dedicated
right-of-way
on
King
Street,
and
we
failed
that
two
times
I
think
Mitch
Stambler.
F
F
Well,
certainly
one
thing
is:
is
we
had
great
great
political
leadership
and
really
our
hats
are
off
to
I,
think
I
think
we're
gonna.
This
is
going
to
go
my
census.
This
is
going
to
go
with
a
very
strong
vote
today,
councillor
wong-tam
councillor
of
cressie
councillor
McConnell
and
our
mayor.
They
said
yes,
we
can
do
this.
F
E
A
P
Much
madam
Speaker
I
want
to
talk
you
through.
First
of
all,
I
have
a
motion
and
that's
that
will
host
in
Ward
19
a
consultation
on
the
bus
garage
in
North
Scarborough.
If
I'm
kidding
sorry
clerks,
it's
a
joke
just
just
to
drag
that
that
line
and
joke
out
a
little
bit,
wow
they're
all
their
faces
on.
A
P
Network
in
Ward,
19
and
I
think
that
we
should
know
for
certain
that
we
have
a
good,
a
good
facility
and
but
my
residents
can't
be
expected
to
go
across
the
city
for
okay
I'll.
Leave
that
one
alone
I
want
to
talk.
I
want
to
talk
you
through
really
quickly
the
day
in
the
life
of
someone
taking
the
King
streetcar.
So
when
I
was
elected
in
2010,
I
did
a
lot
of
canvassing
down
on
on
King
and
one
thing
became
apparent.
P
Actually,
the
the
then
council
supported
the
TTC
chair
to
add
three
streetcars
onto
King
Street,
three
streetcars
and
everyone
was
so
happy
everyone
would
they
weren't
waiting
now
is
for
full
streetcars
when
went
past
every
second
day
they
get
on
the
third
full
streetcar
they'd
still
be
packed
in,
but
it
was
that
much
better
that
much
better.
Now,
twenty
or
thirty
thousand
more
people
live
along
that
corridor
and
those
short
seven
years
and
more
on
the
way,
and
we
haven't
done
all
that
much
to
improve
the
situation.
P
We've
done
what
we
can
there's
only
so
many
turn
restrictions
you
can
put
in
that
and
then
you're
not
addressing
the
capacity
issue,
there's
only
so
much
parking
restriction.
You
can
in
that,
in
that
curb
lane
to
to
address
that
bunching
that
happens
throughout
the
route.
You
can't
have
a
cop
on
every
corner,
ticketing,
everyone
making
an
illegal
left
turn.
P
P
Until
three
items
from
now,
but
will
become
great
friends
later
as
well,
we
haven't
been
able
to
get
and
deliver
on
better
transit
to
this
community,
the
Cherry
Street
car.
That
was
a
step
we
were
able
to
fast-track
some
of
the
newer
streetcars
onto
that
line
and
increase
capacity
just
slightly,
but
we're
talking
ten
twenty
thirty
thirty
thousand
new
people
in
the
last
half
decade
and
we
have
an
increased
capacity
to
keep
to
keep
pace
and
counselor
counselor
Campbell's
right.
P
P
Well:
I:
guess
we
can't
do
this,
but
by
by
by
exploring
a
couple
of
ideas
and
explaining
and
working
with
the
stakeholders,
as
our
staff
have
done
very
well
and
I
just
about
the
public
consultation.
But
this
process
was
incredibly
rigorous
for
the
time
frame.
We
we
give.
We
gave
to
staff,
they
had
stakeholder
committees,
they
had.
P
Maybe
they
met
with
the
local
councillors
regularly
to
make
sure
that
that
the
process
was
working
okay
for
our
communities,
because
don't
get
me
wrong
when,
when
I
say
that
that
our
residents
take
transit,
walk
and
cycle
an
East,
any
parking
spot
that
comes
out
of
a
neighborhood.
Any
space
on
that
road
that
changes
is
going
to
have
some
kind
of
controversy
associated
with
it
and
will
have
two
sides
and
it's
extremely
difficult
to
walk
that
line.
P
But
when
I
was
at
the
last
public
consultation
because
it
wasn't
in
Ward
19,
it
was
in
word:
20
I
went
toward
20,
it's
a
lovely
place
to
be.
I
sat
at
that
meeting
unheard
resident
after
resident
and
people
that
worked
in
our
downtown
core
stepping
up
in
the
saying
you
know
what
thank
you
for
looking
beyond
what
the
usual
ways
of
doing
this
are
and
looking
for
something
more
bold,
I
think
staff
for
their
hard
work
and
the
local
councillors
for
their
for
their
drive
on
this
Thank.
A
C
You,
madam
Speaker
I
I,
don't
have
the
charts
of
Professor
perks
or
the
diagrams
of
dr.
Holliday,
or
even
even
the
anecdotes
of
our
hip
urbanites
councillor
cam,
but
I
would
just
say
that
you
know
we're
at
a
moment.
It's
like
when
I
say
come
on
Toronto
we
can
do
this
like
come
on
and
I
was
I
think
teased
a
bit
because
I
call
this
a
bold
step.
I
think
at
some
point
when
maybe
in
an
article
or
post
and
I
got
a
lot
of
Christians
criticized
for
that,
because
some
people
said
like.
C
Is
it
really
that
bold
and
I
think
to
quote
our
director
of
Transportation?
It's
actually
extremely
low-risk
proposition
and
so
I
think
for
some
are
feeling
nervous
about
the
confusion
it
might
cause
or
the
impact
on
business
or
any
detrimental
effect.
I
think
we
have
great
comfort
in
knowing
that
it
will
not
do
that.
We've
got
enough
examples
around
the
world.
There's
been
enough.
Work
done
on
this
pilot,
in
fact,
I'm
not
sure.
C
If
there's
been
any
more
work
done
on
a
pilot
in
the
City
of
Toronto
preparatory
work
before
it
got
to
this
point
of
us
making
decision,
probably
the
history
of
the
city,
there
is
never
going
to
pilot
more
research
consulted
on
studied
field
research.
Everything
than
this
pilot
so
I
think
we've
got
to
recognize
that
well.
Well,
this
might
be
Toronto,
bold
and
I
think
we
should
be
bold
for
our
Toronto
selves.
C
We
are
not
venturing
into
waters
that
are
going
to
totally
disrupt
or
upset
anyone,
and
that
includes
people
driving
on
King,
because
anyone
who's
driving
on
King
will
tell
you
they're
not
driving
very
quickly
and
they're,
not
getting
to
where
they
want
to
go
very
quickly.
I'm
sure,
even
our
taxi
industry
would
say
that
that
is
not
effectively
get
transporting
their
passengers.
So
I
think
if
you
ask
those
who
drive
on
King
those
who
walk
use
transit,
that
this
is
something
to
do.
C
Yes,
that
to
councilor
Grimes
from
the
mid
nightmare
right
now
in
rush
hour,
streetcars
go
about
13
kilometers
an
hour
for
us
to
sell
that
as
Rapid
Transit,
it's
pretty
disingenuous
to
our
riders
and
to
our
community
to
the
city.
I
think
that
there
are
times
where
we
know
and
anyone
can
see
it
where
you're
sitting
on
that
streetcar,
probably
sitting
behind
a
car.
Someone
in
a
single
vehicle
and
people
are
walking
past
you
on
your
street
car
ride
and
that's
just
not
acceptable.
It's
for
the.
C
C
It's
the
only
the
only
routes
in
the
city
that
are
busier
than
there
are
two
subway
lines
that
that's
how
busy
it
is,
so
it
we
have
to
recognize
that
we
want
to
get
everyone
moving
on
King,
and
this
helps
us
get
get
moving
in
that
direction
where
we
can
actually
say
to
people
that
you
know
what
get
out
of
your
car
or
get
out
of
the
taxi
and
take
the
TTC.
It's
actually
a
reliable,
quick
ride
and
that's
what
we
want
to
deliver.
I
think
this.
C
This
pilot
gets
us
to
that
point
and
I'm
thrilled
to
see
that
council
is
again.
We
usually
trail
our
residents
and
our
citizens
I
think
we're
playing
catch-up
to
them
here.
They're
ready
for
this.
They
want
this
I'm
glad
to
see
what
sounds
like
the
council
is
ready
for
a
and
I
hope
that
we
pass
this
with
a
very
strong
vote
today.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
P
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker.
We
we
have
with
us
who
just
joined
us
in
the
chamber:
councilor
Andrea
rhymer
from
the
City
of
Vancouver
she's,
the
chair
of
policy
and
strategic
priorities
committee
in
the
city
of
Vancouver,
and,
if
you
don't
know
her
she's,
just
a
fantastic
person.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us.