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City Council, meeting 31, July 6, 2017 - Part 2 of 3 - Afternoon Session
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0:11:20 - Meeting resumes
B
A
Mm
thirty-one
point
three:
three,
oh
no
sorry
I
won't
do
that.
I'll.
Do
that
later!
All
right,
not
here!
Thank
you.
Okay,
so
we'll
go
back
to
the
Audit
Committee
we
we've
completed.
We've
completed
the
in-camera
session.
Now
we
will
go
to
the
public
session.
Do
we
have
any
speakers?
Please
put
your
name
up
request
to
speak
just
just
one
sec.
F
A
point
of
privilege
for
council
and
for
the
whole
city.
Actually
we
have
the
mic
report,
that's
in
front
of
us
that
that's
been
a
part
of
our
discussions,
I've
spoken
to
solicitor
and
they
don't
seem
to
have
any
issues
with
releasing
it
and
I'd
like
to
release
it
to
the
public.
If
possible.
Please
yeah.
G
So
I
will
reiterate
my
advice
that
there
are
some
statements
in
here
about
a
particular
individual
and
I
think
you've
heard
from
councillor
Fillion,
but
I
suggest
that
you
ask
him
to
to
confirm
that
he
does
not
have
any
objection
to
the
entire
document
being
made.
Public
council
can
waive
the
solicitor
client
privilege
of
the
document,
but
there
are
still
pieces
of
it
that
could
remain
confidential
for
other
reasons
and
I
could
assist
with
redacting
those
unless
the
councillor
is
comfortable
is
comfortable.
Having
that
released
now.
H
A
A
F
A
F
Like
an
opportunity
to
ask
the
the
author
of
this
particular
report,
questions
and
I
would
ask
them
to
be
invited
for
us
to
be
asking
some
questions
and
for
him
to
answer
them
on
behalf
of
the
TPA,
and
now
that
this
has
been
public
I
think
everybody
understands
why
we
need
to
ask
him
questions.
There's
gonna
be
some
dialogue
here
about
this
particular
report
and
we
need
to
know
why
he
wrote
what
he
wrote.
So
I'd
like
I'd
like
to
ask
that
we
asked
we
asked.
A
E
F
L
Well,
madam
speaker,
thank
you.
I
have
some
motions
which
have
been
pre
circulated
and
I
guess
they
can
be
put
up
on
the
screen
or
whatever
is
deemed
desirable,
but
I'll
just
speak
briefly
to
them,
but
I
will
repeat
in
public
some
things
that
I
said
in
camera
this
morning,
just
because
I
think
they
can
be
repeated
in
either
place
and
I.
L
Nor
do
they
matter
anyway
on
any
of
that,
so
what
I
am
moving
through?
These
motions
is,
first
of
all,
that
we
accept
and
adopt
the
confidential
instructions
to
staff
in
confidential
attachment
1
and
that
we
directive
that
remain
confidential
in
its
entirety,
as
it
contains
advice
that
is
subject
to
solicitor,
client
privilege
and
then
going
forward
to
things
that
are
going
to
be
public
in
a
more
granular
way
here.
L
But
when
you
are
going
through
having
a
look
at
something
to
sort
of
go
beyond
these
reports
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
now
and
trying
to
reach
a
definitive
conclusions,
it
is
best
that
the
board
of
the
organisation
in
question,
in
order
to
totally
maintain
public
confidence
and
an
order,
quite
frankly,
to
allow
for
a
very
pure
review
to
take
place
where
the
people
who
are
answering
questions
are
not
the
same
people
that,
in
effect,
have
assigned
the
review
to
take
place
that
that
there
be
a
separation.
And
there
is
a
mechanism.
L
Fortunately
that
allows
all
of
those
people
to
go
on
a
leave
of
absence
from
the
board.
And
that
is
what
is
proposed
here.
Secondly,
that
we
would,
in
the
meantime,
compose
the
board
of
some
city
officials
and
I
think
this
is
a
very
important
point
to
pause
on.
For
a
moment
our
city
manager
would
be
the
chair.
Our
chief
corporate
officer
would
be
on
the
board,
as
with
the
deputy
city
manager
in
cluster
a,
and
there
has
been
some
talk,
I
know
of
various
people
with
various
other
permutations
and
combinations,
including
membership
by
councillors.
L
But
again
I
would
make
the
argument.
First
of
all
that
we
should
keep
this
when
I
say
clean
I
mean
simple,
we
should
have
some
and
it's
for
an
interim
period,
while
the
reports
are
being
written
and
whatnot
and
that,
in
addition,
if
people
think
this
through
very
carefully,
we
are
the
body
to
whom
ultimately
will
be.
Given
the
report
that
is
going
to
be
presented
in
due
course
on
all
of
this
and
I
think
to
have
somebody
over
there
overseeing
that
process.
L
I
think
sets
up
exactly
the
same
kind
of
thing
that
we're
trying
to
avoid
by
having
the
board
members
currently
step
aside,
including
one
member
two
members
of
City
Council,
so
I
think
that
we
should
and
I'm
obviously
I'm
advocating
this
because
I'm
moving
it,
but
I
think
we
should
leave
this
as
it
is.
We
have
three
very
trusted
professional
public
servants
who
are
going
to
go
in
with
the
help
of
the
clerk's
office.
L
But
I
noticed
with
interest
that
that
task
force
that
was
made
up
of
some
people
that
including
David
Suk
Nike
and
a
number
of
others
who've,
had
some
experience
in
this
building.
They
reported
last
week
and
one
of
their
recommendations
was
that
we
should
have
what
they
called
a
rolling
review
of
all
of
our
major
agencies,
boards
and
and
Commission's
ruling
reviews
such
that
you're
reviewing
them
on
a
continuous
basis,
but
that
every
agency
or
border
Commission
of
substance
gets
reviewed
at
least
once
in
each
term
of
counsel
and
I.
L
Just
tried
here
to
ask
for
the
city
manager
to
come
back
and
tell
us
how
we
could
do
that,
because
I
think
that
is
an
absolutely
well
taken
suggestion.
I
think
this
and
other
episodes
that
we've
had
go
on,
tell
us
that
it's
not
going
to
prevent
these
kinds
of
things
from
happening,
but
it
certainly
is
going
to
allow
us
to
have
a
better,
more
regular
eye
on
the
governance
of
these
places
that
are
so
important
to
the
fabric
of
our
city,
government
and
so
important
to
the
maintenance
of
public
confidence.
L
D
Just
thank
you,
mr.
mayor,
for
your
motions
and
I
want
to
clarify
your
motion.
C
applies
to
looking
at
the
oh,
maybe
that's
not
here.
It's
and
you
know
what
I
think
what
I
want
to
ask
about
is
in
the
confidential,
but
I
did
want
to
clarify
that
the
lobbyists
registrar
and
the
integrity
commissioner
both
have
jurisdiction
with
respect
to
and
governing
legislative
framework,
to
investigate
the
actions
and
conduct
of
members
of
boards
and
of
lobbyists
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
think
that
it
would
be
helpful
to
entertain
further
direction
to
give
to
the
integrity.
L
H
L
H
L
I
think
when
anybody
in
this
council
has
a
concern
or
anybody
on
a
board
I
mean
when
you're
on
a
board,
you
have
a
fiduciary
responsibility
to
the
organization
that
you're
serving
and
so
I.
Think
if
you
have
a
concern,
it's
a
fundamental
principle
to
me
that
you're
not
discharging
your
obligation
if
you
don't
bring
that
concern
to
somebody's
attention,
so
in
that
sense
I
would
say
you
were
doing
your
job
and
so
in
that
sense,
I
would
say
that
that
was
a
good
thing
to
do
so.
H
L
They're
they
should
be
treated
madam
Speaker,
through
you
as
being
the
same
as
anybody
who
did
their
job
properly.
I
mean
it's
expected
of
us
that
this
is
what
we
do
and
I
guess.
If
what
you're
getting
at,
is
you
know
that
somehow
it
is
not
appropriate
that
you,
together
with
other
members
of
the
board,
should
be
asked
to
step
aside
and
take
a
leave.
I
think
perhaps
there's
a
misunderstanding
of
why
that's
happening
it's
happening,
because
the
board
itself
is
actually
overseeing,
and
this
trespass
is
a
little
bit
off
into
the
confidential.
L
You
know
in-camera
resolution,
but
the
board
itself
is
overseeing
some
further
work.
That's
going
to
be
done
to
look
at
exactly
what
happened
in
light
of
these
I'll
call
them
these
differing
reports
and
I
I.
Just
think
as
one
that
it
is
better
both
for
the
maintenance
of
public
confidence
and
for
the
orderly
process
of
due
process
that
the
same
people
who
are
overseeing
the
investigations
and
whatnot
not
be
the
same
people
that
might
be
called
upon,
for
example,
to
to
to
give
their
thoughts
to
the
investigator
I.
M
H
L
That
may
not
be
precisely
right,
but
having
said
all
that,
there's
another
principle
involved
that
I
tried
to
speak
to
in
my
remarks,
both
in-camera
and
here,
and
they
were
the
same
remarks
but
and
that
is
to
say
that,
ultimately,
our
main
responsibility,
in
my
view,
it's
just
my
own
opinion
and
it's
how
I
try
to
carry
out
my
own
job
is
to
maintain
public
confidence
and
I.
Think
the
public
generally
feel
better
when
there
are
questions
floating
around
and
this
I
said
very
clearly
both
in
the
motion.
Unusually,
but
also
in
my
remarks.
L
This
is
not
meant
to
cast
aspersions
on
anybody,
but
it
is
meant
to
say
that
the
public
can
rest,
absolutely
assured
that
that
that
that
everything
will
be
look
and
that
things
will
be
administered
in
such
a
way
pending
the
results
of
the
inquiries
that
are
being
done
without
any
question
of
who
did
what
or
who
might
have
done
water.
Who
said
what
about
who,
if
you
asked
all
of
the
board
members
without
exception,
you
start
making
exceptions
for
you
or
for
some
other
person.
Then,
where
do
you
stop?
L
So
this
is
a
clean
way
with
the
clear
wording
right
in
the
motion
that
there's
no
evidence
of
wrongdoing
on
anybody's
part,
but
we're
gonna
take
those
people
and
say
you're
going
on
a
leave.
Thank
you
very
much
for
accommodating
that
gesture.
If
I
can
call
it
that
to
maintain
public
confidence,
I
think
that
is
the
right
thing
to
do
and
that's
why
I
moved
this
motion.
You
believe.
H
Name:
question
because
we're
running
out
of
time,
if
there
were
four
employees
working
side-by-side,
one
of
them
was
a
whistleblower
who
went
to
the
appropriate
authorities
to
investigate
the
conduct
of
the
other
three
that
they're
at
person's
concern
was
found
to
have
merit,
should
all
four
be
suspended.
Well,.
L
Madam
Speaker
I'm
not
gonna
answer
that
hypothetical
question,
because
it
sort
of
presumes
that
I
reach
a
conclusion
that
you
know
that
I
sort
of
accept
the
fact
that
one
and
I
did
I
said
you
brought
you.
Did
your
job
and
and
I
say
that
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
respectfully
you
did
your
job
in
that
any
director
of
any
board
who
feels
he
or
she
has
a
problem
that
they
think
is
have
something
going
on,
should
bring
it
to
the
attention
of
whoever
the
chair
or
anybody
else.
And
so
that's
fine,
but
I.
L
Think
in
the
circumstances
I
don't
withdraw.
Anything
I've
said
it
is.
It
is
easier
for
us
to
explain
to
the
public
and
maintain
their
confidence
by
taking
all
of
the
board
without
exception,
we'll
step
aside,
and
that's
all
that's
going
on
here,
they're
stepping
aside
going
on
a
lead
that
is
provided
for
in
the
bylaws
or
whatever,
and
that
that
we
will
then
see
what
happens
with
those
board
members
once
all
is
said
and
done
and
I
just
think.
It's
a
cleaner
way
to
make
you
gain
public
confidence
and
I.
M
You,
madam
Speaker,
to
the
mayor
so
in
your
motion,
see
that
talks
about
the
the
sorry
excuse
me
comes
from
that
long.
Trying
to
ask
questions.
It
talks
about
a
leave
of
absence,
so
you're
aware
that
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair
are
paid
positions.
So
are
you
suggesting
leave
with
pay
or
without
you.
L
Know
if
we
want
to
be
consistent
well,
I
can't
I
can't
speak
to
the
consistency,
because
some
of
its
in-camera
but
look
what
I
would
have
said
on
these
things
is
that
this
is
public
service.
These
are
honorariums.
We
give
these
people
they're,
not
substantial
amounts
of
money,
as
I
recall,
I
mean
not
hugely
substantial.
I
would
have
said
that
if
it's
a
couple
of
months,
they
should
do
it
without
pay,
but
it's
not
meant
to
pass
a
judgement
I
for
so
to
me
it
doesn't
matter
and
you're
right.
L
L
I
wouldn't
be
opposed
to
either
one
quite
frankly,
I
just
did
that
chose
I,
didn't
think
about
it,
because
I
really
believe
what
directors
get
when
they
serve.
The
public
in
this
manner
is
meant
to
be
more
of
a
honorarium,
respecting
their
time,
as
opposed
to
any
kind
of
a
marketplace
indicator
of
what
directors
get
paid.
This
is
way
less
than
what
directors.
M
Okay,
so
we
can
chat
about
on
a
menu.
This
also
in
your
motion,
be
it
talks
about
your
deed,
be
the
number
for
about
necessary
any
necessary
modifications
to
the
procedures
for
the
board
and
I'm
that
can
be
drafted
and
approved
by
City,
Council
and
I'm,
wondering
if
you
would
consider
any
whistleblower
policy
for
board
members
as
part
of
that
review,
and
if
so,
would
you
be
willing
to
have.
L
That
articulated
I
will
just
say
from
my
carpet
my
experience
on
corporate
boards,
which
I
had
extensive
experience
of
corporate
boards
before
I
came
here.
It
has
been
standard
fare
for
decades,
literally
decades.
Now
that
you
had
whistleblower
provisions
and
all
kinds
of
things
that
are
meant
to
accommodate,
making
it
easy
for
people
to
come
forward
if
they
think
these
wrongdoing
and
I
think
the
notion
that
our
life
these
are.
This
is
the
parking
authority
and
some
of
our
other
agencies.
L
The
boards
are
very
large
enterprise
and
there
gonna
be
lots
of
moving
parts
and
lots
of
people
and
lots
of
opportunity,
unfortunately,
for
stuff
to
maybe
catch
somebody's
eye,
and
so
to
me,
if
you
made
it
easier
for
people
to
come
forward
and
bring
these
things
to
the
attention
of
the
necessary
authorities,
I,
don't
think
that's
a
bad
thing
at
all.
So
I
have
no
problem
that
at
all,
okay.
M
N
You,
madam
Speaker,
my
question
to
you,
madam
Speaker,
to
the
mayor,
is
on
motion,
see
again
on
the
composition
and
the
kind
of
amending
the
composition
that
it's
being
proposed.
Is
there
a
need
to
have
the
board
composition,
amended
I,
understand
the
need
for
leave
of
absence,
but
is
there
a
way
for
us
to
have
the
organization
under
the
supervision
of
the
individuals
instead
of
being
amended
as
a
board?
So
this
basically
means
there's
gonna
be
three
new
board
members
that
are
going
to
be
introduced
into
the
structure.
L
L
I,
don't
think
at
the
same
time
as
we're
doing
that,
so
it's
cleaner
not
to
have
counselors
there
for
now,
and
it's
meant
to
be
an
interim
arrangement,
obviously
to
be
replaced
by
some
board
and,
of
course,
in
here
there's
recommendations
that
could
be
made
to
us
about
the
composition
of
the
board
going
forward.
But
at
that
time
that's
when
you
would
then
put
councillors
back
on.
If
that's
something
that's
recommended,
but
in
the
meantime
I
think
we're
better
off.
Not
you
no.
N
L
Sign,
madam
Speaker,
that
if
you
look
at
the
way
this
company,
structured
and
I
haven't
done
a
detailed
review
of
the
bylaws
but
I'm
sure
they
required
there
be
a
board
of
directors
that
the
board
of
directors
has
the
powers
that
most
important
directors
have
and
that
decisions
to
be
made
about
signing
contracts
or
about
just
just
as
what
we're
looking
at
here
was
about
signing
of
a
major
contract.
There
has
to
be
a
board
and
I
suspect.
L
It
may
even
say
the
board
could
be
one
person,
but
I
think
that's
not
usually
advisable
so
I
think
by
having
three
you
have
enough
people
that
they
can
both
share
the
responsibility
but
also
meet
together
and
so
I'm
sure.
Yes,
you
do
have
to
name
somebody
as
directors
of
this
company,
if
you're
having
the
entire
board.
That
president
is
there
step
aside.
Thank
you.
E
L
Thank
you,
I
mean
and
again,
I
haven't
specified
that
and
I
would
expect.
The
report
coming
back
from
the
city
manager
would
would
have
a
list
attached
to
it
as
well
of
which
things
are
included.
You
know,
because
I
think
we
have
some
teeny-tiny
boards
that
you
know
might
say.
Well,
maybe
not
that
one
but
I
mean
I.
Think
certainly
those
are
some
of
the
big
ones
and
those
for
sure
would
be
on
the
rolling
schedule,
and
so
once
per
term
they
would
get
reviewed
and
I
said.
L
I
would
expect
the
city
manager
will
set
out
the
kind
of
scope
of
that
review
and
how
it
would
happen,
because
what
you
don't
want
this
to
do
is
turn
it
into
an
industry.
You
know
that
you
have,
you,
know,
half
two
floors
of
people
that
are
just
doing
reviews
all
the
time,
but
I
think
you
want
them
to
be
serious
and
certainly
apply
to
the
largest
and
even
some
of
the,
not
so
large
agencies
and
boards
that
fulfill
important
responsibilities,
but
don't
really
get
reviewed
all
that
off
and
the
report
would
come
back
well.
L
A
A
F
A
F
F
A
F
In
doing
that,
in
we've
got
these
comments
in
a
report.
Will
this
this
look
at
what's
in
what's
been
said,
with
respect
to
the
lawyers
opinion
as
well,
are
we
going
to
be
looking
at
all
of
the
activity
that
seemed
to
have
happened
around
the
board
and
and
and
and
the
concerns
of
this
of
this
lawyer
as
well
I.
L
Have
deliberately
said
here
through
your
madam
Speaker
that
I'm
not
going
to
comment
on
any
of
the
reports,
except
what
I've
already
said,
which
is
that
any
when
the
auditor's
report
came
out,
it
gave
me
great
concern
and
some
of
the
things
I'm
moving
here
are
meant
to
be
a
response
to
that
to
help
us
all
maintain
public
confidence.
But
it's
certainly
I
think
it's
the
expectation
of
all
of
us
that
the
inquiries
that
are
to
follow
will
look
at
everything.
L
That's
on
the
record,
and
maybe
things
that
aren't
on
the
record
at
the
moment
and
make
sure
we
get
to
the
bottom
of
this,
to
maintain
public
confidence
and
to
take
whatever
steps
are
deemed
necessary
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
we
bring
this
to
a
proper
resolution,
so
I
other
than
that.
I
won't
comment
on
any
of
the
stuff.
F
L
One
of
the
things
I've
certainly
learned
here
in
government
is
that
people
feel
much
freer
as
directors
of
corporations
that
are
owned
by
the
city
in
going
and
telling
management
what
to
do
and
doing
all
kinds
of
things
that
normally,
you
would
not
find
directors
doing
elsewhere,
because
it's
a
misunderstanding
of
what
the
role
of
a
director
is,
which
is
to
oversee
and
set
policy,
and
then
let
man
carry
it
out.
Having
said
all
that,
I
think
that
is
what
we're
gonna
look
into.
L
F
L
F
And
on
your
motion
as
well:
I've
read
the
auditor,
the
Auditor
General's
comments
and
recommendations.
She
actually
recommends
that
we
increase
the
board.
She
doesn't
speak
directly
to
any
any
indication
that
she
would
like
this
board
taken
out.
This,
isn't
your
you're
not
doing
this
in
a
way
that
is,
that
is
critical
of
the
board
members
you're
doing
it,
because
you
feel
like
you
need
to
intervene
here
with
this.
This
particular
just.
L
Read
paragraph
three:
madam
Speaker
paragraph
one
of
motion,
C
City
Council
acknowledged
while
there's
been
no
evidence
of
wrongdoing
in
the
part
of
the
board
of
the
Toronto
parking
authority
or
any
of
its
individual
members.
It
is
in
the
cities
and
boards
interest
for
them
to
be
an
interim
governance
arrangement
and
then
number
four
asks
the
city
manager
to
report
back
on
governance.
And
if
the
city
manager
comes
back
and
says
to
us,
we
think
he
thinks
and
his
advisors
there
should
be
a
board
of
12
people.
Then
I'll
certainly
look
at
that
with
interest.
L
I
would
say
as
a
matter
of
interest
that
an
enterprise
of
this
size
ought,
ordinarily,
if
it
was
a
publicly
traded
company,
would
have
somewhere
around
11
or
12
directors,
and
that's
not
seem
to
be
unusual,
but
it
doesn't
have
20
and
it
doesn't
have
4
so
somewhere
in
between
lies.
The
best
number
and
I
assume
our
city
manager
will
give
us
a
report
on
that.
With
his
best
advice,
Thank.
J
Speaker
I
just
wanted
to
give
the
the
mayor
a
chance
to
clarify,
because
I
think
we're
about
to
head
now
to
speakers.
Our
process
makes
you
read
all
these
motions,
I,
you
didn't
have
a
chance
to
preface
and
the
debate
in
the
council
chamber.
The
question
/
debate
is
really
in
the
context
of
a
lot
of
in-camera
discussion,
but
sure
should
the
public
take
from
your
motion
particularly
motion
see
that
in
fact
you
are
grateful
for
the
service
of
every
board.
J
Member
to
this
point,
that's
why
they're
going
on
a
leave
of
absence,
and
you
are
in
fact
grateful
to
councilor
Fillion
for
when
he
had
a
concern
bringing
it
forward
to
the
proper
authority,
the
Auditor,
General
and
you're
grateful
for
to
her
for
looking
into
it.
Should
the
public
take
that
from
your
motions
through.
L
A
B
B
Thank
you,
okay.
There.
It
is
so
the
two
parts.
The
first
is
to
ask
the
integrity
Commissioner
to
review
the
circumstances
of
the
matter
and
they're
there
any
other
relevant
information
and,
if
necessary,
make
recommendations
about
possible
code
of
conduct
or
policy
amendments
pertaining
to
the
TPA
board
or
any
local
board.
Regarding
whistleblower
or
dissenting
viewpoint,
protections
for
board
members
and
then
number
two
and
a
an
acknowledgement
of
councilor
Davis
I
know
that
she
had
been
planning
to
move
something
similar.
B
The
City
Council
forward
copies
of
the
reports
in
the
otter
Genoa
for
an
external
counsel
for
the
TPA
to
the
integrity
Commission,
with
a
request
that
she
conduct
an
investigation
into
whether
members
of
the
board
contravene
the
code
of
conduct
in
dealing
with
this
matter.
So
as
chair
of
the
Audit
Committee,
this
is
one
of
those
reports
that
you
read
with
tremendous
interest
and
concern.
The
auditor
speaks
to
two
million
dollars
that
could
potentially
have
been
over
spent
of
taxpayers
money.
B
In
fact,
the
auditor
goes
so
far
to
say
that
she
was
very
confident
that
it
would
have
been
spent
had
not.
The
audit
occurred
at
the
time
that
it
did.
She
also
went
on
to
explain
things
that
she
described
as
a
hairball
of
conflicting
interests
and
this
inability
to
obtain-
or
maybe
even
some
missing
documents
and
the
report
even
speaks
to
a
lack
of
process
around
whistleblower
protection
or
or
how
somebody
wanted
to
ask
questions
about
a
document
and
couldn't
get
their
answers.
B
So
I've
got
a
lot
of
concerns
about
that,
but
so
do
members
of
the
public
now
as
board
members
and
many
councillors
have
served
on
a
board.
Both
my
including
myself,
I
understand
that
the
buck
ultimately
stops
with
us
and
I
think
I
would
be
tremendously
upset
on
any
of
the
boards
that
I
served
on
that.
If
I
went
to
ask
for
a
document
or
some
information
about
an
upcoming
decision
that
I
essentially
have
accountability
for
if
I
was
denied
access
to
that
now,
I
don't
really
know
exactly
how
it
transpired.
B
We've
got
a
couple
of
documents
here
that
are
now
in
the
public
domain
that
frankly,
I
read,
but
I
can't
really
understand
the
difference
between
the
two.
Maybe
somebody
else
needs
to
have
a
look
at
that
and
that's
the
integrity,
commissioner
and
others
that
we're
going
to
commissioned
to
do
some
reports
on
this,
but
that's
very
same
notion,
I
think
in
the
public's
eyes
the
buck
stops
with
Council.
B
What's
in
our
purview,
the
board
is
not
the
management,
day-to-day
activity
of
the
TPA,
but
the
board
of
the
TPA
is
and
for
us
to
get
some
understanding
and
how
this
transpired
and
that's
why
I'm,
suggesting
that
the
integrity
to
me
Commissioner,
look
at
it.
I
think
that
works
hand
in
hand
with
the
the
suggestion
by
the
mayor
that
that
that
there
be
a
change
in
the
board
for
a
temporary
basis,
but
we
do
know,
and
in
the
public's
eyes
is
that
status
quo
cannot
be
an
option.
We
actually
have
to
change
it.
B
B
B
Consider
supporting
these
two
I
think
it
goes
a
long
way
to
restore
public
confidence
in
our
city
government
and
also
get
some
clarity
and
some
process
around
anyone
that
serves
on
a
board
about
what
they
can
and
cannot
do
or
how
they
should
go
about.
Bringing
forward
concerns
that
they
have,
and
with
that
I
see,
I've
got
some
questions.
C
B
O
J
B
P
Speaker
through
you
to
to
my
colleague
a
good
mistaken,
but
I
think
the
integrity
Commissioner
works
along
the
ways
that
a
complaint
has
to
be
placed.
Somebody
needs
to
assign
a
complainant
affidavit
in
this
systems.
Who
is,
if
that's
the
case,
who
is
signing
that
affidavit
who's
who's
lunch
in
that
complaint?
Thank.
B
You
for
for
raising
that
question.
It
was
something
I
made
a
note
to
mention
in
my
speech,
but
I
have
checked
with
the
the
solicitor
and
I
understand
it's
in
order
for
us
to
as
a
City
Council,
to
ask
the
integrity
Commissioner
to
have
a
look
and
I
think
there's
value
in
putting
the
weight
of
counsel
behind
that
type
of
concern.
I
think
that's
very
symbolic
to
the
public
that
we
all
have
taken.
P
B
There's
two
parts
of
the
motion
the
first
is
is
is
generally
about
policy
and
around
whistleblower
or
dissenting
protection,
and
in
light
of
what
we
saw
in
this
case,
I
think
there's
it's
it's
worth,
having
a
look
at
the
rules
and
giving
some
general
advice,
but
the
second
part
is
very
very
specific
to
this
particular
transaction
and
I'm,
suggesting
that
we
suggest
that
the
integrity
commissioner
have
a
closer
look
at
the
conduct
of
the
board.
Go.
P
Back
to
number
one
sure,
I
think
the
integrity
Commissioner
has
the
authority
and-
and
it
overlooks
that
for
correct
guys.
Yes,
okay,
so
she
also
gives
advice
to
the
individuals
that
sits
on
that
board
and
and
she
you
know,
having
bad.
How
do
you
suggest
I
mean?
Are
you
suggesting
something's
particular
regarding
whistleblower?
Well.
B
It
was
very
evident
to
me
in
reading
these
reports
that
they're
they're
the
way
that
things
unfolded
according
to
the
documentation
with
counselor
Philly
on
there
was
some
some
disagreement
between
board
members
and
counselor
feeling
about
how
this
is
to
be
handled,
and
perhaps
boards
in
general
could
be
best
served
with
a
bit
more
advice
on
how
to
handle
these
situations
in
the
future.
Well,.
P
I
mean
this
is
what
looked
at
politics
is,
for.
You
don't
need
an
integrity,
commissioner,
to
tell
you
how
to
look
at
this
ending
viewpoint.
I
mean
you
have
an
argument.
You
have
a
discussion
and
in
that
point
in
time
you
vote
I.
Don't
think
that
we
need
a
Dave
I
mean
you
know
like
how
does
an
integrity
commissioner,
be
able
to
tell
us
how
to
look
at
the
same
thing
view
I
mean.
Do
we
need
something
like
above
to
tell
us
what
what
to
do?
Iii.
B
Think
that
she
is
an
expert
in
the
code
of
conduct
and
I
think
she
can
provide
some
helpful
advice,
but
I'd
like
to
give
her
the
opportunity
for
that.
Maybe
the
advice
is
very
minimal.
Maybe
it's
not
maybe
it's
everything's
okay,
but
if
we
don't
ask
those
questions
in
the
wake
of
what
we're
reading
here,
I,
don't
think
we're
discharging
our
responsibilities
of
counsel.
Thank
you.
F
I,
don't
have
any
real
concerns
with
the
two
motions
that
you
have
I
just
I'm,
just
a
little
bit
concerned
having
having
seen
and
saw
it
unfold
that
many
of
the
issues
that
even
staff
had
were
that
what
you
they
wanted
to
give
information
to
the
whole
board
and
not
one
member
at
a
time
right.
So
how
do
we?
F
How
do
we
get
around
that
so
that,
when
a
when
a
member
does
have
some
questions,
it
doesn't
mean
that
eight
or
nine
board
members
are
all
going
to
go
to
everybody's
office
individually
and
say
I
demand
to
to
know
the
answer
to
my
question:
it's
my
understanding,
but
that's
not
how
it
works
right
now
that
information
goes
directly
to
the
board
about
anything
and
an
individual
members
of
any
board
should
be
getting
it
with
everybody
else.
Iii.
B
B
Essentially
this
board
or
this
council
is
that
we
are
able
to
go
on
an
individual
basis
and
get
those
questions
and
those
answers
if
it
needs
to
be
different
in
a
board
setting
I'm
quite
willing
to
hear
that
advice
and
take
that
advice
and
I
think
also
even
looking
retrospectively
on
this
storyline.
Maybe
the
integrity
Commissioner
has
an
opinion
on
that
as
to
what
was
right
and
what
was
was
not
the
right
way
to
do
things
so.
F
B
Counsel,
er
I
I
through
through
the
chair
to
you,
I,
really
don't
know
what
the
correct
answer
to
that
is
in
a
board.
Setting
I
would
really
prefer
to
have
some
expert
advice.
What
I
can
say
is
that
if
an
individual
is
to
be
held
accountable
as
a
board
member,
they
they
should
be
entitled
to
the
information
they
need
to
make
an
effective
decision
and
they
should
have
that
information
adequately
in
advance
and
in
format
that
can
be
used.
Sorry.
B
D
Councillor
holiday,
as
you
know,
I
had
a
similar
motion
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
would
consider
a
couple
of
short
amendments
to
yours
and
to
just
get
clarification
so
on
recommendation
to
you
say
that
she
conduct
an
investigation
into
whether
members
could
we
add
current
and
past.
So
we
understand
it's
all
affected
board
members
I.
B
B
D
B
D
A
D
G
E
E
B
Well,
councillor
Fletcher,
there's
no
intent
to
narrow
the
scope
of
the
the
ability
for
the
integrity
commissioner
to
look
at
what
she
needs
to.
So,
if
there's
an
amendment
needed
to
broaden
this
to
make
sure
that
it's
a
successful
review
I
invite
someone
to
make
that
amendment
I
would
just
ask
that
they
check
with
the
solicitor
to
make
sure
that
it
is
worded
correctly.
This
is
the
wording
that
I've
got
and
I
don't.
B
A
B
E
A
R
Have
a
motion-
and
my
motion
is
to
retain
the
two
members
of
council
currently
appointed
to
the
board
the
reason
I
move
this
motion
to
step
back
I'm
in
complete
agreement
with
with
the
mayor
when
he
suggests
that
that
that
the
process
that
he
has
submitted
through
his
motions
is
that
clean
is
a
cleaner
process.
I
have
no
disagreement
whatsoever
and
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
chair
of
our
committee
and
audit
Steven
Holliday
for
the
leadership
that
he
provided
through
this
process,
the
Auditor
General
and
councillor
Fillion
for
blowing
the
whistle
to
begin
with.
R
This
isn't
clean.
This
whole
process,
as
I
said
earlier,
smells
so
much
to
do
with
it
smells
and
raises
reasonable
questions
by
intelligent,
reasonable
people.
But
the
answer
the
question
whether
or
not
councilor
Fillion
was
the
whistleblower.
The
answer
I
would
respectfully
submit.
Yes,
he
was,
and
arguably
he
blew
the
whistle
on
this
and
did
he
do
a
good
job.
He
did
so
much
more
than
just
the
random
job
of
a
director.
He
demonstrated
courage,
stubborn,
resolute
and
necessary
courage
to
be
able
to
challenge
something
that
looked
very,
very
wrong.
R
He
requested
information
over
and
over
and
over
again
and
was
denied
and
denied,
and
when
he
saw
that
something
at
the
11th
hour
was
going
to
go
possibly
even
worse.
He
brought
it
to
the
attention
of
the
Auditor
General,
who
very
swiftly
picked
up.
The
phone
started,
making
calls
on
her
own
and
avoided
the
worst
case
scenario,
which
would
have
been
a
great
waste
perhaps
of
public
dollars.
R
R
Individuals
so
I
think
reasonable
questions
could
be
raised
about
the
whole
narrative
started.
Turning
back
towards
councillor
Fillion
at
the
board
itself
and
since
kind
of
reminds
me
of
how
Donald
Trump
talks
about
the
media
right,
it's
not
my
problem.
It's
CNN
focus
on
CNN
I'm
gonna
wrestle
CNN,
look
how
bad
they
are.
That's
what's
happening.
Accounts
for
Fillion
I
would
respectfully
respectfully
submit
to
you
all.
This
is
the
moment
where
we
need
to
stand
with
councilor,
Fillion
I
believe
forget
his
politics,
whether
you
like
them
or
not.
It
doesn't
matter.
R
If
you
like
him
or
hate
him,
it
doesn't
matter
any
of
these
dynamics.
He
is
a
member
of
counsel
who
has
demonstrated
courage
and
did
something
incredibly
important
and
he
is
under
siege.
What
I'm
concerned
about
is
by
removing
councilor,
Fillion
and
again
I
want
to
make
this
very
clear.
Also
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
to
to
the
mayor
and
others.
This
is
not
a
challenge
to
the
wisdom
or
or
the
the
thought
process
of
the
mayor's
motions.
I
I
agree
with
99%
of
the
substance
of
it.
R
I
think
that
it's
an
effort
to
provide
accountability
and
I
also
know
that
the
city
manager
will
fulfill
this
investigation.
Implement
this
investigation
appropriately.
I
have
confidence
in
mr.
Wallace.
The
nuance
that
I'm
providing
is
is
that
the
signal
that
we
send
to
potential
whistleblowers
throughout
our
system
we've
had
these
conversations
about
whistleblowing
a
lot
at
audit
committee.
R
That's
just
wrong:
it's
not
natural
justice.
In
my
opinion,
councilor
Fillion
has
said
that
he
would
like
to
remain
on
the
board.
I
also
have
assurance
from
the
city
manager
that
the
board
itself
will
not
be
undertaking
the
investigation.
The
city
manager
will
be
fulfilling
that
it
will
not
be
done
with
the
oversight
of
the
board.
R
It
would
be
wrong.
I
submit
to
you
all
to
remove
councillor
Fillion
underdress,
when
what
he
did
was
asked
the
tough
questions,
the
right
questions,
he
saved
money,
he
protected
tax
dollars,
he
provided
more
accountability,
and
none
of
this
would
be
happening
if
it
wasn't
for
him.
So
I
asked
you
to
stand
with
councillor
Fillion.
Thank
do
the
right
thing.
Thank.
N
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
am
just
trying
to
figure
out
the
connection
between
I
I,
do
understand
the
courage,
councilor
feeling
extra
bitter
and
bring
this
forward
but
being
part
of
the
board.
How
is
that
connected?
So
just
just
explain
to
me,
if
possible,
through
your
madam
Speaker.
How
is
how
can
we,
as
the
council,
select
to
keep
only
the
elected
representatives
and
not
the
citizen
representatives
in
our
board
when
we
move
forward?
That's.
R
So
one
fact
is
is
that
counsel
I
mean
the
fact
actually
means
that
we
can
select
whatever
configuration
we
want,
and
we
are
we're
doing
that,
no
matter
what
we
do
today,
we
can
either
select
to
remove
the
entire
board.
We
can
just
replace
the
chair
or
we
can
be
selective
about
the
members
I'm
not
actually
through
piecemeal
sort
of
selecting
one
individual
or
another.
What
I'm
submitting,
though,
is
that
we
of
our
body
counsel.
We
have
two
elected
representatives
who
have
done
nothing
wrong
and
in
fact
councillor
Fillion
not
only
has
done
nothing
wrong.
R
R
How
he'd
like
to
handle
that
or
approach
that,
but
on
principle,
on
principle
again
without
challenge
or
opposition
I
sincerely
in
principle,
I
believe
that
we
have
to
stand
with
a
member
of
Council
who
has
not
only
done
its
job
honorably
but
has
indicated
to
us
that
he
wishes
to
continue
to
do
so
and
that's
why
I
believe
that
we
should
move
in
that
direction.
I.
N
Have
a
couple
of
more
questions
and
I'll
wrap
it
up
with
that?
One
is
related
to
if
the
board
is
still
functional
and
even
though
the
investigation
is
being
undertaken
by
somebody
else,
the
board
is
still
always
seeing
the
operations
of
the
of
the
organization
that
is
many
parts
of
which
are
under
investigation.
N
So
do
you
not
see
that
the
board
continuing
to
be
there
while
the
investigation
is
happening
still
having
the
oversight
role
be
if
there
is
any
wrongdoing
of
any
board
member
in
there
be
able
to
be
interfering
in
this,
and
the
second
thing
is
we
talked
about
whistleblowers
being
protected?
Do
you
see
a
difference
between
staff,
who
are
whistleblowers
and
board
members
who
are
whistle
blows,
there's
a
distinction
in
terms
of
people
losing
jobs
versus
people
not
being
on
a
board,
while
the
investigation
has
so.
R
With
respect
to
the
the
trusteeship,
the
governance
of
the
board
governing
its
operations
that
will
continue
and
councilor
Fillion
has
contributed,
as
many
members
have
at
each
board.
Meeting.
The
matters
that
are
going
to
be
under
investigation
will
not
be
discussed
at
the
board
meetings
that
is
going
to
be
undertaken
by
the
city
manager.
R
He
will
most
likely
be
asking
for
outside
assistance,
that'll
be
his
prerogative
as
as
he
sees
fit,
but
I
I
can
assure
you,
based
on
the
information
that
I
received
directly
from
the
city
manager
himself,
that
this
will
not
be
a
conflict.
In
fact,
I
would
I
would
actually
assure
you
that,
if
I
believe
for
a
moment
that
there
was
any
confusion
between
the
two
roles,
I
wouldn't
be
moving.
The
motion
that
I
am
if
I
thought
that
councillor
Fillion
would
in
some
way
be
making
decisions
about
an
investigation
in
some
way.
A
R
C
Thank
you,
pika
I
rise
in
support
of
the
mains
motions
and
I
would
not
be
supporting
compliment.
Those
motion
tree
and
I'll
tell
you
why,
because
I
joined
the
board
the
beginning
of
this
year
and
I
put
my
name
forward
at
the
end
of
last
year
to
join
TPA
Board,
because
the
report
came
to
audit
committee
in
October
last
year
and
I
was
the
chair
of
the
Audit
Committee
at
that
time
and
by
reading
report,
I
really
did
not
know
how
the
board
of
DPA
functions.
C
That
is
why
I
put
my
name
forward
to
join
the
board
to
understand,
because
when
we
ask
questions
at
all,
the
committee
I
was
told
that
diligence
is
done
only
after
dimming
the
offer
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
the
process
I
want
to
find
out
more
about
it.
So
thank
to
this
council,
I
was
put
on
the
board
and
learned
a
lot
of
how
that
bought
functions
and
I've
always
believed
that
in
real
estate
that
we
have
so
many
different
organizations
silos
in
City
at
a
city
that
nobody
really
knows
what
is
going
on.
C
So
that's
why
I
fully
support
the
idea
of
putting
under
the
real-estate,
all
under
one
agency
were
still
using
and
I
support
that
now
to
be
fair
to
everyone
I'm,
the
member
that
bought.
They
started
this
year
after
the
timeframe
when
the
view
of
this
reform
so
but
I'm,
a
member
of
that
board.
So
I
should
be
following
like
the
rest
of
the
board
and
allow
an
independent
board
on
the
interim
to
take
over
and
do
a
proper,
unobstructed.
C
Investigation
and
report
back
to
Council,
at
which
time
you
know,
that's,
why
us
council,
holiday
weather,
the
lobbyist
versus
trust,
couldn't
be
all
so.
They
asked
to
investigate
and
I
understand
the
council,
David
Stern,
even
booing
that
motion
and
I
was
supported,
motion
as
well
to
be
fair
to
everyone,
especially
the
owners
of
the
TPA
and
the
owners
of
these
piers,
the
restaurants
of
Toronto.
We
are
just
the
caretakers
here.
C
The
bottle
directors
that
helps
manage
the
City
of
Toronto,
so
I
believe
that
this
nice
effect
airing
of
all
the
effects
which
I
believe
that
city
manager
and
the
two
members
are
we
putting
on
the
board
will
do
that's.
Why
I'm
in
support
of
the
mayor's
motion
to
help
clear
the
air
and
to
bring
integrity
and
accountability
to
TPA?
Thank
you.
O
A
E
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
of
course,
will
be
supporting
the
mayor's
motion
for
a
further
review
I,
unlike
councillor
Matt
Loeb,
do
not
I
do
not
find
the
same
odors
from
the
from
the
report
that
the
Auditor
General
has
written
I.
Think
that
there's
a
number
of
coincidences
that
have
taken
place
I
think
that
some
people
have
come
to
conclusions
that
I
think
are
unfounded
at
that
to
this
point
in
time.
This
to
me
is
a
case
built
to
fulfill
a
hypothesis,
I,
don't
fault
the
Auditor
General
for
doing
that.
E
She
was
led
down
a
pathway
quite
correctly
by
a
councilor
affiliate,
but
as
I've
mentioned
earlier
in
my
comments,
the
Auditor
General
usually
goes
in
after
the
fact.
This
was
a
time
a
point
in
time
when
she
went
in
and
interrupted
a
process
that
was
ongoing.
So
my
personal
view
is
that
when
all
of
the
evidence
comes
out,
once
the
city
manager
and
his
team
have
concluded
their
findings
that
we
will
not
find
that
there
has
been
wrongdoing.
I
think
that
we
will
find
that
there
have
been
a
series
of
unfortunate
coincidence.
E
A
E
To
me,
there
are
many
troubling
issues,
but
to
stand
out
first,
during
the
due
diligence
period,
the
TPA
decided
in
a
courting
the
Auditor
General
here
decided
to
include
the
potential
to
add
a
second
sign
on
the
property,
even
though,
and
them
now
I'm
going
off,
quoting,
even
though
by
the
consultants
own
estimation,
there
was
only
a
25%
chance
of
that
approval.
I
know.
Yesterday
we
like
to
quote
about
our
children.
E
It's
just
not
happening.
You
know
well
that
be
that
as
it
may,
the
point
is
is
not
happening.
25%
with
a
25%
chance
with
a
25%
you're,
not
you're,
not
getting
anywhere
okay,
but
in
irrespective,
secondly,
backdating
a
report
from
from
a
date
after
the
Auditor
General
began
her
investigation
to
before
it
needs
to
be
looked
at
further.
As
for
the
report
commissioned
by
the
TT
TPA
Board
I
find
that
actually
somewhat
embarrassing,
although
its
stated
purpose
was
to
quote,
provide
guidance
in
responding
to
the
Auditor
General's
report.
E
What
it
really
was
about
wasn't
impugning
the
whistleblower
in
this
case
counselor
Fillion,
the
classic
is
a
counselor
Matt
Lowe
alluded
to
the
classic,
hey
look
over
there.
This
is
not
about
counselor
Fillion.
This
is
about
finding
out
the
truth
about
the
actions
of
the
TPA
board,
whether
they
were
right
or
wrong,
and
none
of
us
should
be
scared
of
finding
that
a
thank
you.
Thank.
A
D
To
speak,
Thank
You,
Speaker
I
have
two
motions.
The
first
motion
requests
that
the
lobbyists
register
are
undertaken:
investigation
of
the
conduct
of
the
lobbyists
and
consultants
who
are
involved
in
this
matter,
and,
secondly,
I
spoke
of
this
earlier
after
councillor.
Holliday
moved
his
motion,
and
that
is
to
make
two
amendments
to
his
motion
to
add.
D
Current
and
past
members
of
the
boards
of
both
the
Toronto
parking
authority
and
the
Emory
village,
Business
Improvement
area
and
I'll
speak
first
to
the
first
one,
which
is
the
lobbyist
registrar,
investigating
the
conduct
of
the
lobbyists
and
the
consultants
that
were
involved
in
this
matter.
Anyone
who
has
read
this
report
can
only
come
to
the
conclusion
that
the
consultants
and
the
lobbyists
who
were
involved
in
this
web
of
relationships
have
got
to
be
investigated.
D
D
Avoiding
a
lobbyist
was
involved
with
the
negotiations
of
the
agreement
of
purchase
and
sale.
Lobbyist
appears
to
have
been
aware
of
how
the
purchase
price
was
negotiated.
Lobbyists
received
copies
of
the
draft
agreement
of
purchase
and
sale.
Lobbyists
may
have
been
helped
to
advance
the
financing
of
the
flagpole
had
access
to
in
camera
information.
The
lobbyist
Billings
confirm
he
provided
advice
to
the
TPA.
The
lobbyist
was
also
the
sign
consultants.
Lobbyist
I
could
go
on,
but
I
will
leave
it
at
that.
D
This
lobbyist
was
under
contract
and
paid
up
to
a
million
dollars
and
was
involved
in
inter
relationships
with
both
the
board
members
of
the
emory
village
bia,
as
well
as
the
TPA
and
performed
functions
that
I
think
were
well
beyond
the
scope
of
what
would
normally
be
a
lobbyist.
We
also
saw
the
consultant
who
was
asked
to
give
advice
on
the
pricing
of
the
sign,
ended
up
putting
his
name
on
top
of
a
pricing
that
was
done
by
a
staff
person
at
the
TPA.
D
D
I
have
struggled
with
whether
to
support
the
amendment
that
would
allow
councilor
Fillion
to
remain
counselor
leads
remain
on
the
board.
I've
listened
to
both
of
them
and
their
views
and
I
thought
about
and
read
what
is
before
us
and
have
come
to
the
conclusion
that
I
think
it's
probably
in
their
personal
interest
and
in
the
interest
of
the
city,
to
have
a
break
and
to
have
a
very
neutral
position
taken
with
respect
to
the
board
for
the
purposes
of
the
investigation.
D
But
I
do
not
believe
for
one
moment
that
that
signals
a
neutrality
in
terms
of
the
actions
of
the
people
who
were
involved
in
this
board.
I
think
councilor
Fillion
has
brought
to
light
and
I
want
to
thank
him
for
that.
What
I
believe
are
some
very
questionable
relationships,
some
very
questionable
transactions
and
some
very
questionable
conduct
by
the
members
of
both
the
boards
and
of
staff
involved,
and
we
should
be
looking
to
have
all
of
those
matters
thoroughly
investigated.
D
The
lobbyist
register
has
the
jurisdiction
to
investigate
under
her
own
legislation.
The
integrity
commissioner
also
has
jurisdiction
to
investigate
the
conduct
of
both
the
board
members
and,
along
with
the
mayor's
investigation,
we
will
be
covering
all
of
the
bases
and
we'll
have
a
thorough
review.
Thank
you
very.
D
P
J
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Madam
Speaker
I
rise
to
support
meritorious
motions.
Regrettably,
I
can't
support
councillor
Matt,
Louis
motion,
I
hope
there
won't
be
any
more
emotions.
That's
my
that's
my
fondest
wish,
because
I
think
we've
covered
it.
We
are,
we
are
very
lucky.
Not
every
city
has
a
full
suite
of
accountability,
offices
and
we've
just
elected
to
employ
them
all
going
forward.
J
We
we
have
a
robust
set
of
codes
of
conduct
and
and
an
overarching
one
that
covers
us
covers
private
citizen
members
on
boards
gives
lots
of
room
for
for
the
investigation
that
comes
back
and
any
work
done
by
our
accountability
officers
to
report
back
to
us
any
further
refinement
of
any
of
those
policies.
We
even
have
we
have
a
whistleblower
policy,
I,
don't
think
it
I,
don't
think
it
was
robust
enough
to
kick
into
action
and
and
help
councillor.
J
Fillion
I
asked
questions
about
the
report
that
I
understand
will
be
made
public
because
earlier
I
wanted
someone
to
demonstrate
how
very
skewed
a
report
can
be
when
it
wants
to
be
skewed.
I'm
standing
in
this
in
this
chamber
right
now
speaking
to
to
the
members
in
the
way
I
am
instructed
to
do
so.
There's
my
chair,
I
speak
to
you
only
through
through
her
permission,
and
she
has
to
be
able
to
see
my
face.
J
We're
instructed
when
we
get
our
council
orientation
to
know
where
the
cam
that
covers
us,
because
that's
the
way
our
residents
will
see
us
and
staffer
used
to
knowing
that.
If
I
want
to
ask
a
question
now
miss
gray
about
transportation,
I
would
still
be
facing
you
and
she
would
be
behind
me
and
she
would
be
fine
with
that.
Those
are
our
rules
of
order
order.
J
Those
are
our
code
of
conduct
for
how
we
respectfully
conduct
business
in
this
room
and
those
are
the
rules
of
code
of
conduct
that
ought
to
have
been
followed
in
that
room,
but
sometimes
in
our
smaller
boards
we
relax.
We
get
a
little
informal
and
before
you
know
it,
we've
slipped
up
we're
either
not
following
the
code
of
conduct
or
in
fact
we're
beginning
to
misunderstand
each
others:
actions
that's
what
the
code
of
conduct
is
for,
so
that
everybody
understands
the
rules
and
understand
each
other's
actions,
and
then
we
end
up.
J
We
end
up
by
relaxing
the
rules
with
this
prejudicial
opinion
of
behaviors
that
were,
in
fact
quite
respectful.
They
was
addressing
the
chair
of
a
ward
and
that's
why
I
highlighted
that
when
I
was
asking
questions
earlier
and
now
that
that
report
has
been
voted,
public
I
voted
against,
but
it
will
be
made
public
and
I
hope
that
the
community
will
realize
they're.
J
Looking
at
a
report
that
has
a
particular
slant
interview,
but
I
also
know
this
at
the
mayor's
motion
that
today
hands
it
over
to
senior
staff
to
Commission,
oversee
and
finally
deliver
to
us
that
independent
third-party
review
and
I
think
we
demonstrated
why
that's
necessary
I
left
here
last
night
thinking,
we've
got
to
dissolve
the
board
and
a
whistleblower
has
to
be
ready
for
that.
You
bring
your
information
forward
to
the
important
thority
you
make
sure
they're
protecting
you.
J
It
should
be
protecting
you
earlier,
so
that
a
prejudicial
report
like
the
one
that's
about
to
be
made
public
would
never
have
been
created,
should
never
have
been
written.
That's
what
we
shal
whistleblower
protection
had
it
been
employed
earlier,
would
have
accounted
for.
But
that
being
said,
you
make
sure
that
protection
policies
are
covering
you.
You,
you
come
to
the
larger
body.
J
You
let
governance
resolve
the
matter.
It
means
the
whistleblower
at
some
point
will
relinquish
control
of
the
matter
because
it
is
the
will
of
the
body
to
fix
it,
and
it
is
the
responsibility
of
the
body
to
fix
it,
and
we
demonstrated
here
this
morning
why
we
couldn't
right
now
reconstitute
immediately
a
seven
member
board.
Put
some
councillors
back
on
put
some
citizens
on.
We
all
know
each
other.
We
know
too
many
people
in
all
of
these
many
reports.
J
When
the
results
come
forward,
they
have
to
be
fully
impartial.
They
cannot
be
judged
in
any
way
by
ourselves
by
our
community
or
even
by
our
friends
upstairs
in
the
media
gallery.
This
is
the
only
way
that
that
happens,
the
whistleblower
and
the
body
that
is
here
to
protect
him
counsel,
now
hands
to
this
board
of
supervision.
N
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
rise
to
support
the
motions
put
forward
by
the
mayor,
I
think
it's
the
first
addition
to
ask
the
board
of
directors
to
have
a
leave
of
absence.
You
know
it
either
has
to
be
all
board
members
stay
or
all
board
members
leave.
While
the
investigation
is
happening,
we
don't
know
which
board
member
is
involved
in
what,
if
you
don't
have
enough
evidence
to
decide
that
today,
if
either
all
the
board
members
stay
on
or
all
of
the
board,
members
are
given
a
leave
of
absence
or
take.
N
A
leave
of
absence
asked
to
take
a
leave
of
absence.
I
do
feel
that
if
the
board
continues
in
their
role,
there
will
definitely
be
some
sort
of
a
complication
in
terms
of
English.
You
know
we
know
that
it's
going
to
happen
independently.
The
board
is
going
to
be
the
ultimate
head
of
the
organization.
The
board
is:
have
board,
has
supervisory
role
over
all
the
staff
in
the
organization.
N
So
when
an
organization
is
under,
you
know
this
investigation
is
going
on
if
the
board
is
still
in
control
of
what
happening
the
board
oversees
the
senior
staff
that
does
their
performance
review
exit,
etc.
It
is
not
going
to
be
a
ideal
situation,
so
hopefully
this
will
be
done
soon
enough,
so
that
we
won't
need
to
have
an
interim
board
for
too
long.
And
hopefully
you
know
the
the
members
who've
served
well,
can
return
if
possible,
to
the
to
the
role.
N
But
at
this
point
of
time,
I
think
the
best
thing
to
do
is
to
have
a
leave
of
absence
so
that
the
investigation
can
take
place,
though
I'm
not
quite
convinced
that
there's
only
one
way
to
do
it
by
calling
it
the
interim
board
I,
don't
know
if
there's
another
way
to
name
it
as
an
interim
supervisory
role
or
some
sort
of
thing,
but
I'm.
Definitely
in
support
of
that.
N
I
also
want
to
say,
thanks
to
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
to
console
aphelion
for
racing
this
and
the
courage
and
the
kind
of
determination
he
has
shown
in
this,
and-
and
if
this
is
my
decision
to
support,
the
leave
of
absence
of
the
board
is
in
no
way
reflective
of
the
courage
that
he
is
shown
and
I
would
like
to.
I
would
like
to
comment
him
on
that.
I
also
would
like
to
thank
the
Auditor
General
I
know
there
were
some
questions
raised
about
what
was
the
appropriate
time
to
be
getting
involved.
N
I
think
it's
sometimes
better
for
us
to
be
proactive
if
nothing
comes
out
as
wrong.
It's
okay,
it's
okay!
For
us
to
be
safe
than
sorry,
so
I
think
it
wasn't
important
enough
of
an
issue
for
the
Auditor
General
to
be
involved
in
and
to
race.
It
with
us,
so
I
definitely
appreciate
the
work
that
she
has
done
so.
N
Finally,
I
also
think
that
integrity,
commissioner
and
and
and
the
lobbyist
registrar,
are
two
amazing
positions
that
we
have
to
have
oversight
and
in
a
situation
like
this,
we
definitely
need
to
get
them
involves,
I'll,
be
supporting
both
Council
holidays
and
councillor
Davis
motions
as
well
I'm,
looking
forward
to
a
speedy
resolution
of
the
issue,
so
that
the
board
can
go
back
to
normalcy
and
we
can
find
a
way
to
continue
the
amazing
work.
What
do
you
do
in
the
city
through
our
organizations
and
agencies,
sports
and
Commission?
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
O
O
First
I
think
it's
we've
heard
a
number
of
different
views
about
what
went
on
in
terms
of
the
evaluation
of
the
land
and
how
it
was
done
and
did
members
of
the
TPA
do
their
job
and
we've
heard
a
whole
narrative
around
that
and
it's
important
that
we've
got
some
confidential
advice
about
how
to
get
more
clear
answers
on
that
piece
and
that's
that's
very
important.
O
It's
also
critical,
and
this
is
why
I
think
what
the
mayor
is
done
is
of
such
great
value
that,
while
that's
happening,
members
of
the
public
are
absolutely
clear
in
their
mind
that
none
of
us
is
interfering
with
that
investigation
and
and
that's
important,
because
we've
had
different
narratives.
Some
members
of
this
council
say
some
one
thing
happened.
Other
members
of
this
council
say
another
thing
happened,
there's
a
dispute
about
it.
Let's
take
us
out
of
that
and
have
an
absolutely
clear
investigation
of
the
facts.
O
But
it
absolutely
is
the
case
that
we
need
that
work
done
and
we
need
to
have
it
done
in
a
way,
that's
above
reproach
and
also
in
a
way
that
can't
be
used
for
political
purposes.
The
speaker
already
had
to
call
councilor
mammal
Edie
to
order
for
remarks
he
was
making
about
about
councillor
Fillion
in
this
debate
already
there's
an
effort
to
try
to
say
you
can't
listen
to
so
and
so's
version.
You
can't
listen
to
so-and-so's
version,
there's
already
an
effort
to
try
to
taint
the
interpretation
of
what
happened
and
that's
why
it's
important.
O
No
member
of
this
council
can
be
seemed
to
be
leading
the
investigation.
That's
why
I'm
afraid
I
can't
support
councillor
Matt
Lowe's
motion,
but
there's
something
else
here.
That's
really
critical
that
we
have
to
turn
our
minds
to
in
the
course
of
this
investigation.
It
has
been
revealed
to
us
and
the
public
that
a
former
member
of
Toronto
City
Council
a
lobbyist,
now
got
a
million
dollars,
1
million
dollars
in
fees
from
one
public
entity,
the
emory
village
bia
to
lobby
another
public
entity,
the
toronto
parking
authority
that
shocks
the
mind.
O
O
So
the
final
thing
I
wanted
to
say
in
closing
is
while
I
know,
councilor
Fillion
has
made
and
I
think
will
make
a
plea
that
he
should
remain
on
the
board.
I
think
that
the
ability
some
voices
in
this
council
to
say
that
some
that
would
somehow
taint
or
color
or
interfere
with
or
raise
questions
about
the
independence
of
the
investigation
is
sufficient,
to
my
mind,
to
say
no
councilor
Fillion,
despite
the
fact
that
you
have
done
heroic
work
here,
we
cannot.
We
cannot
give
the
people
who've
been
putting
roadblocks
up
all
along
another
excuse.
O
A
Q
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
Madam
Speaker
and
I
would
also
like
to
rise
and
and
thank
the
Auditor
General
for
her
work.
I
think
it's
very
telling
the
report
was
extremely
revealing
and
it's
not
even
just
the
the
amount
of
work
that
went
into
pulling
off
the
investigation,
but
rather
the
difficulties
in
putting
together
the
information
to
to
to
thread
together
the
case
to
sort
of
make
it
and
present
it
to
to
us
in
a
very
comprehensive
way.
Q
I
recognize
that
this
is
probably
very
difficult,
madam
Speaker,
for
a
number
of
members
and
in
the
chambers.
It
certainly
is
for
myself.
We've
all
had
dealings
with
the
trial
parking
authority,
I
hold
the
staff
of
the
parking
authority
and
they're
in
the
greatest
esteem.
I've
never
had
any,
and
this
is
not
to
to
impugn
anyone's
reputations,
but
I've
never
had
anything,
but
but
the
most
professional
relationship
with
them
always
responsive
when,
when
called
upon
and
always
extremely
informative,
so
I
am
I,
am
surprised
to
to
hear
about
this.
I've
been
fairly
quiet.
Q
Q
But
I
just
want
to
speak
directly
to
to
perhaps
the
the
the
sentiment
of
of
my
friend
and
colleague,
counselor
Fillion
I'd
recognize
that
it's
not
easy
speaking
up
specially
when
sometimes
you
feel
like
you're
not
being
heard.
I
certainly
do
appreciate
how
much
courage
it
took
to
be
able
to
to
rise
up
and
say
something
because
often
times,
it's
a
lot
easier
to
say
nothing,
saying
nothing
doesn't
get
you
into
trouble,
saying
nothing
doesn't
get
you
enemies.
Q
Q
Was
the
process
the
standard
process,
where
all
the
rules
followed
I
think
that
there's
more
conversations
and
more
investigation
that
will
be
had,
and
that
will
also
be
revealed
in
time
if
the
auditor's
report
is
correct
and
the
findings
are
are
going
to
be
held
up,
the
next
wave
of
investigation
would
certainly
be
able
to
to
to
pull
that
together.
For
us.
Q
With
respect
to
the
roles,
the
role
of
lobbyists
at
City
Hall,
we
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
being
asked
to
consider
matters
and
often
times
I
have
I
have
felt
that
there
have
been
there
have
been
occasions
where,
perhaps
perhaps
we
didn't
need
to
have
so
much
contact.
Send
me
the
information
that
you're
looking
for
I
will
give
you
a
response,
either
by
by
a
meeting
in
the
when
the
presence
of
staff
or
perhaps
correspondence
in
writing.
But
we
recognize
that
lobbyists
have
have
a
role
to
play,
and
certainly
they
do
but
raw.
Q
Q
So
I
look
forward
to
the
the
fall
of
reports
that
we
coming
from
the
integrity
commissioner,
as
well
as
the
the
reg,
the
the
the
lobbyists
register
and
I
think
that
this
is
not
certainly
not
the
loss
of
this
conversation,
and
this
is
not
the
last
time
that
we'll
be
speaking
about
this
matter:
Thank
You,
Lou
chambers.
Thank
you,
Thank
You,.
M
It's
only
fair
that
the
members
of
the
board
on
leave
should
also
not
be
getting
any
remuneration,
since
they
won't
be
discharging
their
duties
during
that
time,
and
as
for
my
second
motion
after
having
looked
at
the
City
of
Toronto
bylaw
993
2014,
which
is
the
public
service,
bylaw
disclosure
of
wrongdoing
and
reprisal
protection,
it
doesn't
seem
that
that
actually
applies
to
members
of
boards.
What
does
actually
apply
to
members
of
board
says
is
conduct
standards
for
members
of
local
boards.
M
Any
reprisal
or
threat
of
reprisal
against
a
complaint
or
anyone
for
providing
relevant
information
to
the
integrity
commissioner,
is
therefore
prohibited.
So
I
find
that
to
be
a
bit
problematic
and
you
should
include
all
accountability,
officers
and
and
I
hope
that
that's
what
the
my
second
motion
will
reveal.
I
also
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
the
Auditor
General
for
her
work
on
this
matter.
I
have
to
say:
I
was
very
disappointed
by
the
letter
by
McKenzie,
barristers,
in
particular
from
the
very
very
beginning
at
the
introduction.
M
In
my
view,
this
rather
self-congratulatory
conclusion
is
in
no
way
justified
by
the
facts.
I'm
actually
very
disappointed
in
that
I.
Don't
think
that
the
work
of
the
Auditor
General
should
be
described
as
self
congratulatory
anyways
I,
look
forward
to
the
findings
of
the
third
party
investigation
and
when
this
matter
comes
before,
Council
I
will
read
that
with
great
interest.
O
O
I
read
the
McKenzie
report
very
carefully
and
I
listened
as
carefully
as
I
could
to
the
debate
in
camera
and
in
public
on
this
particular
issue,
and
the
conclusion
I've
reached
speaker
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
moving
parts
to
this
to
this
issue,
and
I
would
hope
that
the
investigation
proceeds
less
with
enthusiasm
and
more
with
caution
and
precision,
there's
a
potential
minefield
of
lawsuits
out
there
and
they
should
be
avoided
as
much
as
possible
and
speaker
with
respect
to
the
motions
that
are
before
us.
I
support
the
mayor's
recommendations.
O
O
We
did
it
with
TC
HC
and
there
might
have
been
a
third
one
as
well
so
I
don't
think
there
should
be
any
problem
with
the
mayor's
motions
with
respect
to
and
I,
certainly,
support
motion.
One
D
I
think
the
the
level
of
procedural
governance
should
be
visited
in
our
agencies.
Boards
and
commissions
and,
frankly,
elevated
in
there
and
boards
that
it's
found
the
lacking
speaker
I.
O
Support
Stephen
councillor
holidays
motion,
I,
don't
support
accounts
from
at
Lowe's
and
I.
Think
I
would
be
repeating
the
arguments
of
others
who
have
indicated
why
they
wouldn't
be
supporting
that
particular
motion.
I
think
because
councillor
fill
in
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
players
that
is
going
to
be
investigated.
O
I
think
that
he
might
be
in
a
position
of
conflict
were
he
on
a
TPA
board
that
received
the
investigative
report
and
had
to
pass
judgments
on
it
with
respect
to
councillor
Davis's
emotions
I,
understand
where
she's
coming
from
speaker,
but
I
think
that
that
that
perspective
would
be
incorporated
in
the
investigation
as
I
understand
it
as
presented
in
camera.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
wide
reaching
I,
don't
think
that
there's
any
player
that
won't
have
his
or
her
role
examined
in
a
great
detail.
O
P
Spoke
in
camera,
but
I
will
speak
those
remarks
again
in
public
on
the
same
issue.
We
in
this
place
find
ourselves
having
to
make
a
decision
after
staff
have
dealt
with
things,
staff
have
done
the
investigations
and
staff.
We
are
ready
to
report.
We're
never
asked
to
be
engaged.
We're
never
asked
to
write
reports.
P
Unfortunately,
for
us
it
is
not
like
the
federal
or
the
provincial
system,
where
a
committee
goes
out
asks
questions,
thus
findings,
and
then
they
write
the
report
along
with
staff.
This
is
quite
the
opposite,
and
here
we
have
members
of
the
Toronto
parking
authority.
Staff
have
done
a
gun
out.
There
done
the
work
and
one
board.
P
Madam
Speaker
I
think
that
it's
time
that
we
look
at
the
practices
that
we
have-
and
we
engage
and
I
say
this
wholeheartedly,
because
if
we
look
at
the
practices
that
we
have
and
we
engage
and
we
work
along
with
staff
versus
having
to
wait
back
for
staff,
to
write
reports
and
report
to
us
and
if
some
point
sometimes
we
want
to
be
engaged
in
the
process
and
we
save
staff.
Can
we
come
to
the
consultation
meetings
and
we'll
get
it
back
in
writing.
Sorry,
you
cannot
attend.
This
is
where
all
these
trouble
starts
with.
P
I
will
not
be
supporting
the
motion
by
the
councillor
Stephen
holiday.
I
think
that
we
have
checks
in
place
in
in
place
for
the
for
the
Auditor
General
the
integrity
commissioner.
To
do
things
I
will
certainly
be
not
supporting
the
ones
by
Janet.
Davis,
accountable,
Davis
and
I
will
be
closely
looking
at
the
made
mayor's
contours
report.
But
I
say
again:
unless
we
do
a
wholesale
change
and
unless
we
include
include
councillors
in
writing
the
reports
and
being
there
and
do
the
heavy
lifting
along
with
staff
I,
don't
think
the
culture
is
going
to
change.
A
You
I
will
be
supporting
the
mayor's
motions
and
I'll
be
supporting
actually
all
the
motions
except
for
councillor
Matt
Lewis
motion.
The
reason
I
wanted
to
speak
and
I'm
not
gonna
speak
for
five
minutes,
but
this
has
been
very
difficult.
This
issue
we've
been
we've
been
debating
and
asking
questions
now
for
two
days
and
in
camera,
and
this
was
public.
A
But
what
was
really
disturbing
and
the
reason
I
wanted
to
speak
because
the
letter
that
the
confidential
letter
from
the
solicitor
from
McKenzie
that
was
made
public
the
whole
report-
and
if
you
read
the
report,
is
attacking
one
member
of
council
as
a
whistleblower
and
that
really
disturbs
me
and
I
mean
it's.
The
worst
report
I've
ever
seen
and
never
ever
read
this
I,
don't
know
who
this
lawyer
is,
but
he's
a
lousy
lawyer.
A
J
A
Thomas,
but
as
far
as
a
whistleblower
I
mean
first
of
all,
I
commend,
counsel,
Fillion
for
being
a
whistleblower.
I
was
a
whistleblower
in
1991
and
I
was
attacked
customer
havoc.
You
will
remember,
this:
I
was
attacked
by
members
accounts,
so
even
by
the
media.
This
went
on
for
a
few
years
and
I
was
so
intimidated.
People
were
threatening
me
and
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
was
right.
So
counsel
Fillion.
A
A
S
Thank
you,
madam
Deputy
Speaker
I
just
wanted
to
rise
to
lend
my
support
to
meritorious
motions
and
raise
some
caution
about
counselor
Fraga
NASA's
motion.
Without
the
the
amendment
of
without
remuneration,
I
think
comment
that
was
made
earlier,
that
there's
gonna
be
a
flurry
of
lawsuits
over
this
and
I
think
without
consultation
with
our
Human
Resources
Department
and
looking
into
individual
employee
contracts
with
severance
--is
and
the
details
over
suspension.
I
think
it
would
be
very
irresponsible
for
us
to
decide
at
this
stage
whether.
J
K
J
M
Personal
privilege
was
not
really
about
my
name,
but
that's
another
people
point.
So
the
renew
marae
ssin
is
for
members
of
the
board,
councillor
Pasternak,
madam
Speaker,
that
it's
not
about
members
of
city
staff
at
the
parking
authority.
It's
about
members
of
the
board,
so
just
a
clarification
for
councillor
Pasternak
well,.
S
J
S
That
being
said,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
my
dealings
with
the
Toronto
parking
authority
were
were
always
very
positive.
They
took
a
great
interest
in
some
of
the
ideas
and
concerns
we
had
in
Ward
10
Loren,
Percival
Persico
was
a
was
a
true
professional
in
dealing
with
us
and
I
think
he's
to
been
corrected
and
commended
for
many
of
the
good
things
that
he
did.
It
is
very
sad
that
we
are
caught
up
in
this
mess
in
a
and
a
war
of
documents
and
motion
before
us.
S
That
being
said,
I
think
we
have
to
take
the
actions
before
us
to
disband
the
board,
have
a
more
thorough
investigation
and
look
at
it
more
closely.
But
I
did
want
to
make
sure
I
rose
to
accentuate
the
positive
that
my
personal
dealings
with
the
TPA
had
always
been
positive.
True
true
professionals
and
I
think
they.
They
did
an
excellent
job
in
many
of
the
projects
that
they
were
involved
in.
C
You,
madam
Deputy
Speaker
I,
want
to
begin
all.
First
of
all,
I
will
be
supporting
the
mayor's
motions.
I
think
that
a
an
investigation
and
a
thorough
investigation
of
a
particular
transaction
is
good.
I'm,
not
sure
that
it's
enough,
because
I
believe
that
a
more
comprehensive
investigation
needs
to
be
done
in
a
situation
like
this
to
be
fair
to
all
parties
involved.
I
want
to
work
with
the
comments
of
the
previous
speaker,
councilor
Pasternak,
councillor,
Kelly,
I,
think
I,
say
one
and
councillor
Campbell
I.
C
Think
I
personally
believe
that
when
we
examine
a
particular
transaction-
and
there
are
some
red
flags
that,
for
whatever
reason
signal
impending
doom,
it's
logical,
I
guess
to
jump
to
conclusion
that
we
see
some
disaster
occurring
in
the
next
few
months.
We
think
we
should
somehow
intervene
and
stop
the
process
that
the
TPA
has
been
used
to
or
the
standard
practices
that
the
TPA
has
employed
in
the
past,
and
let's
stop
it,
because
we
don't
see
a
very
good
outcome
and
that's
fine
to
jump
to
that
conclusion.
C
However,
there
is
nothing
that
the
investigation
will
show
that,
in
fact,
jumping
that
act
in
conclusion
might
have
been
premature.
In
fact,
a
sixty-day
Clause,
plus
a
30-day
before
closing,
would
have
been
sufficient
time
to
allow
the
mr.
Persico
be,
who
I
believe
is
very
competent,
certainly
in
my
in
my
interaction
with
him
and
the
PPA
when
I
was
on
the
Budget
Committee
and
as
budget
chief
were
very
positive
experiences,
and
that's
why
I
say
after
the
comments
of
the
previous
speaker,
it's
unfortunate
that
we
have
to
find
ourselves
in
such
a
predicament.
C
But
that
being
said,
I
mean
we
were
all
sort
of
caught
up
in
a
situation
where
we
we
would
like
to
see
the
right
thing
done
and
to
do
it.
The
right
way,
I
think
is,
is
where
the
the
the
mayor's
motions
really
stem
from
he's.
Basically
saying
this
is
the
right
way
to
probably
do
the
type
of
in-depth
investigation
that
is
needed
through
the
general
manager
and
but
I.
C
Let
me
conclude
by
saying,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
when
all
of
the
reviews
are
done,
I
would
agree
with
councillor
Campbell
and
and
say
that
the
unfortunate
set
of
circumstances
we
find
ourselves
in
will
point
out
that,
in
fact,
no
wrongdoing
was
done.
That's
not
to
say
that
someone
jumping
to
the
conclusion
that
they
anticipate
wrongdoing
happening
is
necessarily
wrong.
All
I'm
saying
is
I,
don't
believe
that
wrongdoing
will
be
demonstrated
in
the
end.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
There
was
a
clear
a
finding
by
that
our
Auditor
General
that
found
things
and
processes
and
procedures
and
policies
not
followed
and
not
that's
what's
in
front
of
us
today.
Yes,
somehow
we've
shifted
and
we're
all
kind
of
trying
to
be
the
judge
and
or
jury
about
one
board
members
conduct
and
how
he
should
have
or
might
have
conducted
that
I
just
think.
That's
really
sad
and
disappointing,
and
if
anyone
wonders
and
we've
kind
of
hear
the
term
whistleblower
thrown
around
a
lot
today
and
I'm
glad
that
I
was
almost
gonna
color.
T
E
E
I
encourage
the
people
up
there
to
read
that
report,
because
that's
the
discussion
and
debate
that's
in
front
of
us
today.
That's
what
these
motions
should
be
about.
That's
what
this
debate
should
be
about.
It's
not
about
whether
you've
had
good
dealings
with
a
parking
authority
in
the
past.
We
all
have
that's
great
they're
professionals.
We
know
that.
That's
not
what
this
is
about.
It's
not
about
the
conduct
of
one
particular
board
member,
it's
not
about
that!
Either!
It's
about
this
transaction,
it's
about
the
irregularities
around
this
transaction.
E
H
H
The
I
support
all
the
other
motions
I'd
like
to
thank
councillor
Matt.
Lo
for
his
eye
and
I'll
talk
a
bit
about
why
I
wanted
to
stay
on.
The
board
would
like
to
like
to
stay
on
the
board
and
I'm
gonna.
Ask
I'm
gonna
try
to
do
this
in
five
minutes.
Madam
Speaker,
but
I'm
gonna.
Ask
if
you'll
give
me
a
bit
of
indulgence.
H
First
of
all,
it's
my
understanding
that
the
members
of
the
board
would
not
be
involved
in
the
investigation
if,
if
I
thought
otherwise
I
would
not
ask
to
be
on
the
main
reason
that
I'm
asking
to
be
on
is
because
I
am
concerned,
it's
fake.
You
know.
God
knows
it
is
not
because
it
is
fun
to
be
on
the
Toronto
parking
authority
or
that
I've
had
a
good
time
there.
H
It
is
because
of
the
my
whistleblower
status
and
my
concern
about
how
I
have
been
treated
in
this
by
some
people
and
certainly
I
appreciate
the
comments
of
a
lot
of
members
of
council
and
a
lot
of
members
of
staff
privately,
but
it
really
does
discourage
anyone
else
from
doing
the
same
and
there's
a
reason
why?
But
from
1991,
when
you
were
a
whistleblower,
madam
Speaker
and
I
think
basball
Kison
about
17
years
ago.
H
I
think
there's
a
reason
why
nobody
comes
forward
because
it
is
really
not
fun
to
do
it,
and
the
reason
that
I
agreed
to
have
the
report
from
mr.
Mackenzie
distributed
in
public
unredacted
is
because
I'm
counting
on
intelligent
readers
to
look
at
that
in
conjunction
with
the
auditor-general
76
page
report
and
understand
what
it
is
be
able
to
see
it
for
exactly
what
it
is
and
what
happens
when
you
challenge
something
when
somebody
is
doing
something
they
shouldn't
be
doing
they
don't
they
don't
go?
H
Oh
thank
you
for
telling
me
that
I
was
doing
something.
I
shouldn't
have
been.
They
come
after
you
and
one
of
the
ways
that
the
parking
authority
board
came
after
me
was
to
hire
a
lawyer
to
do
that
and
I
think
that's
self-evident
from
the
the
anybody
who
reads.
The
report
I
think
it's
self-evident,
so
just
to
quickly
go
through
the
chronology.
H
In
May,
this
transaction
came
before
the
parking
authority
board
as
an
added
item
in
camera.
There
was
no
business
case
for
buying
the
property
I
asked
for
one,
and
there
was
no
appraisals.
I
asked
for
one
I
was
the
board.
Nobody
on
the
board
agreed
with
me
that
we
should
have
those
things
before
we
proceeded
to
ask:
ask
the
staff
to
develop
an
agreement
of
purchase
and
sale.
I
was
told
those
things
would
be
provided
before
the
agreement
of
purchase
and
sale
came
back.
H
They
weren't
on
July
28th
again
as
an
added
item
in-camera
again
with
no
appraisal.
Still
no
business
case,
an
agreement
of
purchase
and
sale
came
forward
again.
I
was
the
only
board
member
who
thought
there
was
anything
wrong
with
that.
I
was
voted
unanimously
following
that
I
started
saying
to
the
staff
you'd
promised
me
this
information.
Where
is
it
and
it
was
yes,
I
was
persistent
and
it
will
around
the
time
that
I
was
persistent,
that
there
were
stories
started
circulating.
Oh
he's,
he's
very
difficult.
H
He's
he's
he's
stepping
over
the
law
and
he's
being
abusive
of
staff.
I
was
being
a
beautiful
staff
for
asking
them
for
information
and
being
persistent
in
that
on
August
19th,
an
agreement
of
purchase
and
sale
was
signed
still
with
no
appraisal,
allegedly
with
no
appraisal
and
with
no
business
case,
I
asked
to
go
in
and
examine
the
file
at
first
I
was
told,
I
couldn't
I
couldn't
go
in
and
look
at
the
file,
then.
H
Finally,
I
was
allowed
to
go
in
and
look
at
the
file
and
the
staff
member
sort
of
took
papers
out
selectively,
but
there
was
hardly
anything
in
the
file.
What
wasn't
in
the
file
and
what
nobody
had
told
either
me
it
had
told
me
up
to
that
time-
was
that
there
was
an
existing
appraisal
and
that's
as
the
information
provided
for
the
auditor
in
general,
and
that
appraisal
was
for
7.5
million
dollars.
But
that
information
was
deliberately
kept
from
me
again.
H
Try
to
wrap
it
up
so
this
this
went
forward
to
the
board
meeting
where
the
Auditor
General
presented
her
evidence
than
what
was
happening.
Wasn't
right.
What
did
the
board
do
not
a
thing
except
pass
a
motion
to
hire
a
lawyer
and
then
we
know
the
results
of
that.
So
that's
what
happened
in
this
instance
to
somebody
who
was
trying
to
say
wait
a
minute.
Let's
have
some
information
here
before
we
make
a
decision
how
alien.
A
P
H
P
H
H
H
So
I
think
what
happened
here
needs
to
be
reviewed.
I,
don't
believe
there
is
any
other
motion
that
deals
with
what
happened
at
the
board.
I
think
the
other
motions,
both
public
and
private,
deal
with
other
matters
and
I
also
understand
and
I
appreciate
the
comments
of
people
who
said
they
won't
support.
Councilor,
Matt,
Lowe's,
motion
and
and
I
understand
their
reasons,
and
that
perhaps
this
takes
the
place
of
that
in
some
ways.
Night.
F
Manner,
secure
have
no
emotions,
I
I
do
feel
obligated
to
stand
up
and
and
and
speak
about
something
that
we
haven't
smoked
about
spoken
about
and
that's
the
community
and
what
the
community
is
lost.
Out
of
all
of
this,
we
have
gone
through
a
process
over
the
last
20
years
for
different
resolutions
coming
to
Council
for
different
directives.
This
is
no
different
asking
for
this
particular
square.
F
This
particular
objective
by
the
be
a
to
be
placed
in
four
different
spots
and
every
time
they
abide
by
the
wishes
of
the
policies
at
City
Hall
and
the
wishes
of
City
Hall.
Someone
comes
up
with
bad
news
and
delivers
it
to
the
community
and
they
can't
have
it.
In
this
particular
case,
there
was
a
bit
of
good
news
with
the
LRT
believe
it
or
not,
even
though
I
voted
opposed
to
the
LRT
I
even
have
voted
opposed.
F
I
gotta
look
at
the
record,
but
when
it
came
forward,
this
whole
plan,
but
contrary
to
what
my
community
was
telling
me,
they
felt
comfortable
and
moving
forward
with
the
Metrolinx
commitments
to
pay
for
certain
things
on
this
site.
Like
the
bicycle
paths
lanes
like
these,
the
share
of
the
bicycle
share
program
like
the
square
and
we
may
have
lost
out
from
a
whole
ton
of
money
because
of
this
particular
report
and
this
initiative
and
now
more
more
feedback
to
come.
F
We
may
have
lost
out
in
millions
of
dollars
from
Metrolinx
because
of
this,
and
yet
again
your
quest
as
Satta
note,
because
of
another
another
plan
that
city
hall
says
no
to
I,
don't
know
how
you
feel,
but
I
feel
for
my
community.
They
deserve
it
what's
wrong
with
Jane
and
Finch,
what's
wrong
with
us
having
what
everybody
else
wants
and
desires
what's
wrong
with
us
getting
the
same
sorts
of
infrastructure
money
that
the
downtown
part
of
the
city
gets
and
everybody
else
gets.
F
F
Amongst
all
of
you,
you
voted
in
favor
of
it
right
and
it
went
it
went,
and
that
report
said
that
the
TPA
would
be
a
partner
in
this,
and
so
with
the
BIA
and
with
those
two
partners
it
went
forward
and
it
went
forward
to
the
TPA
and
mr.
mayor
can
remember
as
well.
The
last
meeting
that
we
had
before
that
report
came
the
amount
of
enthusiasm
from
the
community
over
600
people
at
that
meeting.
While
the
mayor
was
there
saying.
Yes,
we
deserve
it
as
well.
F
That
report
came
forward
and
then
it
went
to
the
TPA.
He
sought.
Another
TPA
I
was
happy,
it
was
there
and
I
was
I
was
glad
it
was
moving
forward.
I
took
the
lead
of
of
staff
there
and
we
as
a
board,
understood
that
we
had
to
go
through
a
process
that
process
was
underway,
and
then
we
heard
from
city
staff,
not
the
to
city
staff
that
are
in
the
report
we
heard
from
some
women
in
offices.
F
We
heard
from
staff
of
the
TPA
that
complained
to
the
HR
department
about
one
councilor
who
went
in
not
as
a
whistleblower.
In
my
opinion,
I
know
that
some
people
want
to
make
him
feel
like
he
is
tonight
that
today,
but
more
like
a
headhunter
more
like
someone
that
has
gone
in
and
in
his
cut
he's
telling
all
of
these
women
that
are
working
behind
the
desks
that
he's
going
to
call
the
police
on
numbers
that
he's
going
to
call
the
police
on
them.
Your.
H
A
F
A
O
F
F
You've
got
a
very
legal
document
here,
as
well
as
the
Auditor
General
report
and
and
any
any
anything
else
that
goes
forward
here,
has
to
take
into
account
a
legal
document
that
has
legal
opinions
and
speaks
to
very
clear,
very
clear
messaging,
around
people
that
are
hired
by
the
TPA
and
this
city
and
if
you're
not
cautious
with
this,
it
will
come
back
to
haunt
us.
This
isn't
political
anymore.
F
F
The
missus
information
needs
to
be
there's
no
question
about.
It
needs
to
be
answered,
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
misinformation
and
we'll
find
out
what
that
is,
as
we
go
along
and
I
swear
to
you.
If
I
can
move
today
and
get
away
with
it
to
expropriate
this
land
to
give
this
community
what
they've
been
waiting
for
for
20
years,
I
would
but
I'm
gonna
wait
for
this
for
any
reports
to
come
back,
yeah
I
will
be
back
with
a
motion
to
try
and
explain.
A
E
Those
are
the
most
important
aspects
of
this
whole
thing
that
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
today.
I,
like
many
here,
are
confused
and
not
convinced
that
there's
necessarily
a
villain
or
a
hero
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
important
to
come
to
a
conclusion
on
what
the
heck
happened
here
and
make
sure
it
doesn't
happen
again
and
I
think
that.
E
A
R
I
You
very
much
speaker,
speaker,
I,
just
wanted
to
rise,
because
I
want
to
support
the
mayor's
motion
and
I
want
to
remind
job
members
that
this
transaction
transaction
requirement
or
requests
or
direction
to
the
TPA
came
from
counsel.
It's
my
understanding
that
counsel
wanted
to
acquire.
The
lands
for
the
community
has
been
stated.
I
have
sat
and
listened
to
the
in-camera
I've
sat
and
listened
to
the
out
of
camera,
the
in
counsel
commentary
and
so
on.
I
One
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
the
nature
of
the
business
that
they're
in,
but
from
my
accounting
of
this
and
when
I
see
the
the
information
that
we
have
here
about
sort
of
the
valuation
and
how
they've
arrived
at
it
and
what
they
start
at
where
they
land
it
seems
to
me
in
one
report.
It
says
that
they
had
land
at
the
same
place
that
the
Auditor
General
has
also
stated
that
she
believed
would
be
the
fair
market
value.
So
it's
really
confusing,
and
so
we
have
at
odds
a
lot
of
information.
I
Clearly,
there
is
a
lot
of
stuff
here
and
it
is
very
perplexing
and
confusing
and
I
think
that
it
is
obviously
not
something
that
counsel
or
counselors
should
be
investigating,
and
that's
why
a
third
party
with
the
ability
to
bring
forward
back
to
counsel
the
appropriate
information
that
will
actually
help
us
I.
Think
that
at
this
particular
point
in
time
and
I
know
that
it's
been
stated,
counselor
Luciano
talked
about
villains.
Their
hero
I
want
to
get
that
fact
at
the
later
date.
I
We
will
then
see
whether
or
not
there
was
a
real
issue
talking
about
the
role
of
government,
so
I
have
just
gone
through.
That
course,
with
a
number
of
my
colleagues
I
understand
what
the
roles
and
responsibilities
of
board
members
are.
It
seems
to
me
that
a
lot
of
things
happen
as
part
of
this
particular
board
with
the
activities
of
members.
That's
fine,
I
think
that
the
Auditor
General
and
her
work
and
her
ability
to
take
a
look
at
this.
I
That's
fine
as
well-
and
we
ought
to
thank
her
because
in
the
past,
as
I've
been
a
made
aware
when
we
wanted
something
done
by
other
Auditor
General's,
we've
been
told
that
well,
let's
take
a
look
at
the
work
plan.
Let's
take
a
look
to
see
if
it
fits
in
the
work
plan,
whether
or
not
they
actually
had
time
to
do.
I
That
she's
obviously
been
able
to
bring
this
in
and
incorporate
that
in
with
respect
to
her
a
you
know,
work
plan
and
doing
the
work,
whether
or
not
the
detail,
information
that
she
had,
what
the
information
he'd
receive
and
the
report
that
she
has
brought
together,
which
I'm
certainly
not
criticizing
I'm,
happy
that
she
brought
this
report.
But
it
appears
that
there's
only
certain
some
information
that
she's
received
when
we
contrast
that,
with
respect
to
this
other
report,
this
McKenzie
report
and
I'm
not
necessarily
happy
with
the
report
either.
I
But
there
are
things
in
there
that
we
have
to
obviously
take
from
that
report
and
bring
that
forward
along
with
the
Auditor
General's
reports.
So
the
mayor's
motion
is
very
helpful.
There
are
a
couple
of
other
motions
that
I'll
be
supporting,
but
I
won't
be
supporting
many
others,
Thank
You
speaker.
E
J
A
E
N
A
E
You
make
sure
I
have
questions
of
miss
gray.
If
I
might
ask
her
so
during
this
pilot
project
next
year,
can
you
and
I
ask
this
only
within
the
context
of
if
you
drive
along
Wellington
Wellington
Street
right
now
this
morning,
for
example,
there's
all
sorts
of
construction
going
on
there,
so
I'm
wondering
during
this
pilot
project
what
construction
projects
are
going
on
on
either
Front
Street
Wellington,
Street,
Dundas,
Street
or
Queens
Street
that
might
make
traffic
even
worse.
K
A
E
K
E
See,
maybe
so
can
I
ask
I,
see
I
see
mr.
Beaufort
is
here
so
we
have
the
trommel
Transit
Commission,
so
I
know
one
of
the
projects
that
they're
working
right
now
on
where
they've
got
Wellington,
blocked
off
I
think
to
one
lane,
because
I
think
they're
doing
this
and
they
might
have
been
doing
some
TTC
work.
My
question
my
question
is:
there's
the
TTC
plan
any
work
that
is
going
to
block
any
of
the
streets
that
I
just
mentioned
next
year
during
the
pilot
project.
T
E
My
next
question
is:
do
we
know
if,
on
any
of
those
streets
in
the
length
of
the
pilot
project,
whether
how
many
construction
staging
areas
there
are
on
what
Street
on
what
streets,
I
I
know?
This
is
a
hard
question,
but
you
know
when
you
have
to
drive
on
those
streets
every
single
day
right
how
many
applications
will
there
be?
Will
there
be?
Can
you
give
us
some
sense
of
how
many
lanes
are
going
to
be
blocked
during
the
pilot
project
through.
K
You,
madam
Speaker,
we
have
instituted
a
no-fly
zone
in
other
instances
like
with
New
York,
Bay
young
ramp
and
we're
talking
about
instituting
a
no-fly
zone
in
this
instance
as
well,
where
we
would
not
have
additional
plan
work
come
into
the
area
for
the
reasons
that
we
want
to
ensure
that
the
pilot
works
smoothly
again
for
private
development
and
unplanned
or
emergency
work.
That's
something
that
we
absolutely
have
to
manage
in
year.
K
K
H
E
K
K
You,
madam
Speaker,
yes,
I,
believe
that
the
ability
to
move
transit
we
have
65,000
transit
riders
and
per
day
that
use
the
King
Street
corridor.
We
have
lots
of
people
who
walk
cycle
and
also
some
who
drive
two
destinations
along
the
corridor,
and
we
believe
this
pilot
and
moving
transit
first
and
more
effectively
will
in
fact
make
the
street
work
better.
Thank.
C
T
Not
at
all
councillor
I've
seen
plenty
of
evidence
of
this
in
the
various
places
I've
worked
both
in
London
and
in
Sydney
Australia.
There
are
set
priority
corridors
and
I
can
think
of
plenty
of
other
examples.
Around
Europe
other
systems
that
I
visited
where
there
is
a
deliberate
strategy
of
allowing
or
enabling
transit
to
take
priority.
It's
good
practice
and.
T
Well
outside
for
benefits
actually-
and
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
we'd
measure
journey
time-
in
other
words,
the
the
the
end
to
end
time,
the
customers
would
travel
that
on
the
whole
route,
but
also
through
that
central
area.
Punctuality,
the
ability
for
this
transit
to
stick
to
timetable
throughput,
in
other
words
the
amount
of
streetcars
that
we
can
push
through
of
of
actual
against
plan
and,
finally
ridership.
We
would
expect
to
see
or
hope
to
see
an
increase
in
ridership
as
transit
becomes
increasingly
more
attracted
that
serve
that's
what
we
had
to
do
and.
C
T
C
G
C
G
C
C
G
G
G
E
E
T
Council,
no
we're
not
looking
to
put
through
more
street
cars.
What
we're
looking
to
do
is
get
the
existing
service,
both
the
504
King
and
the
514
Cherry
Street
service.
We're
looking
to
prioritize
transit
such
that
that
service
that
scheduled
service
can
get
through
that
particularly
crowded
section
of
King
Street
more
efficiently
and
quickly.
Right.
E
E
K
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
we've
done
some
preliminary
analysis
on
travel
times
on
adjacent
streets
and
also
on
how
the
trips
will
array
coming
both
from
the
eastbound
in
the
westbound
and
well.
It
is
not
a
predictive.
It
is
not
a
data
based
analysis.
It's
a
predictive
analysis.
Our
indication
is
that
about
40%
of
those
cars
that
are
diverted
off
of
King
Street
in
the
eastbound
direction
will
use
a
delayed.
K
E
K
M
K
E
Just
referring
to
page
10-
and
you
know
something
I
know
as
a
driver
has
gone
in.
You
know,
hon
an
issue
on
our
roads
in
downtown
Toronto.
We
are
putting
up
barriers
on
King,
for
pedestrians,
of
course,
for
loading
on
and
off
the
streetcars
that
correct
I
do
see.
An
issue
is
I.
If
we
do
have
a
streetcar
breakdown,
it
looks
to
me
like
the
streets
going
to
come
to
a
full
hold,
because
you
have
a
barrier
and
then
you
have
a
streetcar
and
no
vehicles
are
so
one
is
the.
What
one
is
our
plan?
T
Standard
practice
councillor,
what
we
would
do
is
bring
up
the
streetcar
behind
and
push
effectively
push
it
out.
The
way
which
we,
which
minutes,
because
you
have
it's
at
such
an
intense
service,
you
bring
up
the
streetcar
behind
its
standard
practice.
That's
how
we
deal
with
the
streetcar
fade
is
at
the
moment.
Okay,.
J
G
G
P
P
G
The
speaker,
the
protocol
that
we
used
on
this
project,
is
entirely
consistent
with
a
consultation
protocol
that
we
use
on
every
process
in
the
city.
We
rarely
do
a
ward
by
Ward
consultation,
because
there's
so
many
words
in
the
city.
One
of
our
strategies
in
this
instance
was
to
used,
earned
media
in
order
to
generate
press
across
the
city
and
a
dialogue
and
to
expand
the
presence
through
social
media
and
earned
media.
The.
B
E
E
J
P
B
B
G
B
A
A
A
O
A
O
A
A
B
O
A
A
G
A
B
Was
the
chief
plan
of
respectfully
I'm
not
interested
in
the
street
Complete
Streets
guidelines?
I,
understand
them
very
well
and
I
believe
that
they
speak
to
the
design
of
a
street
category.
What
I'm
talking
about
is
the
broader
network
of
how
you
move
people
from
one
end
of
the
city
to
the
other,
and
what
is
the
network
interface
of
the
streets?
How
do
we
treat
them,
and
how
does
this
integrate
into
that
into
that
planning?
We're
gonna
we're
going
to
remove
a
piece
of
the
network?
So
how
does
that
fit
in
the
overall
plan
through.
G
B
G
B
The
there
is
presumably
an
impact
on
adjacent
streets.
My
question
to
the
geometry
rotation
is:
is
when
the
local
councillor
gets
additional
phone
calls
about
congestion,
because
either
people
are
going
to
stay
home
and
not
take
their
cars
or
they're
going
to
shift
their
patterns.
What
are
you
going
to
do
to
address
those
calls
that
come
through
with
the
elevation
and
the
diversion?
You
ain't
told
me.
The
percentage
is
already
of
where
the
traffic
is
going
to
go.
K
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
we've
also
looked
at
travel
time
on
adjacent
corridors,
so
we
can
understand
more
about
where
there's
additional
capacity
beyond
King
Street.
So
certainly
there's
the
ability
to
give
people
information
in
public
education
about
what
what
routes
are
better
routes
for
them.
During
the
time
of
the
pilot.
K
I
also
think
that
we're
going
to
see
if
transit
is
working
as
effectively
as
we
hope
it's
going
to
work,
that
a
number
of
people
will
ship
their
trip
to
a
transit
trip,
and
we
will
continue
to
monitor
on
a
regular
basis
for
a
number
of
outcomes
on
the
pilot.
And
so
we
will
be
making
modifications
as
necessary
and
that's
something
that
we
would
get
to
the
local
councillor
to
indicate
and
also
have
a
thorough
conversation
with
the
businesses
and
with
the
constituents
along
the
way.
So
we
can
understand
and
head
those
off.
B
Two
years
ago
there
was
a
terrible
accident
on
the
gardener
and/or,
the
lakeshore
and
I.
Remember
the
fire.
Crews
had
to
close
basically
both
of
those
arteries,
the
lakeshore
I'm,
the
gardener
to
run
a
hose
across
that
essentially
cut
off
the
west
end
of
the
city.
So,
given
that
this
is
another
route
that
West
End
drivers
use,
how
will
you
react
an
emergency
of
that
proportion
once
again
when
we're
taking
away
an
option.
K
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
we've
been
in
terms
of
emergency
response.
We've
been
in
pretty
close
contact
with
the
fire
chief
and
their
data
analysts
to
look
at
travel
time
response
an
emergency
vehicle
response.
So
that's
certainly
one
tool
we
have
in
our
toolbox.
I
also
think
that
we
had
the
reason
why
we
selected
the
pilot
area
is
because
there
is
actually
a
much
more
robust
street
grid
in
this
part
of
the
downtown,
and
so
there
are
parallel
corridors
that
we
can
manage
and
modify.
Should
there
be
that
kind
of
of
a
congestion,
probably.
A
B
Is
I
think
for
the
TTC
I
want
to
be
really
crisp
on
this,
because
I
asked
some
questions
during
the
briefing
that
was
provided
to
me
some
time
ago.
I
want
to
have
a
good
understanding
of
the
sources
of
delay
for
streetcars.
It
is
my
understanding.
The
predominant
source
are
left-hand,
turning
vehicles
along
this
corridor,
along
with
some
others
in
the
report,
I
wondered
if
you
could
speak
to
that
and
also
speak
to
me
about
how
transit
experience
will
be
improved
because
it
says
here
you
mentioned
earlier.
B
T
The
primary
cause
of
delay
is
traffic
congestion
and
particularly
that
caused
by
left
turn.
So
you
can
literally
have
a
full
streetcar.
In
fact,
a
a
succession
of
full
streetcars
held
up,
because
there's
a
left
turn
taking
place
ahead
of
it
and
so
that
that's
the
primary
cause
of
delay
in
terms
of
the
throughput.
The
fact
that
the
streetcars
will
be
moving
through
more
quickly
makes
this
service
more
efficient.
T
Therefore,
we
will
be
able
to
spread
the
loads
more
evenly,
even
though
in
the
morning
peak
we're
currently
on
the
504
at
around
124
percent
capacity,
in
other
words,
in
excess
of
capacity
from
December
of
this
year,
which
forms
part
of
the
pilot
period.
We
will
be
deploying
beginning
to
deploy
the
new
bigger
streetcars,
so
we
will
actually
be
adding
some
capacity.
Hey.
A
E
T
G
Through
the
speaker,
this
is
the
cultural
center
of
the
city.
It's
also
the
financial
district,
as
well
as
a
rapidly
growing
neighborhood.
So
there
is,
as
is
our
objective
in
our
planning
frameworks,
activity
that
takes
place
all
throughout
the
day
and
the
evening
and
the
evening
and
the
evening.
So
so
a
lot
of
activity.
G
For
this
issue,
is
that
correct,
through
the
speaker
what's
unique
about
this
area?
Is
the
fact
that
it
has
a
working
population
during
the
day,
but
that
entertainment
district
function
in
the
evening,
which
means
there
is
a
high
volume
of
pedestrians
through
a
much
more
extended
period
than
you
see
in
other
parts
of
the
city?
Would
you
say
that
at
particular.
A
K
K
Do
you,
madam
Speaker?
We
believe
that
as
a
pilot
first
transit
as
if
I
as
a
transit,
first
pilot
project,
that
our
main
goal
is
to
move
transit
as
quickly
and
effectively
as
we
can,
and
we
certainly
have
recognized
that
there
is
also
a
safety
issue
in
the
evening
hours.
We
did
late
night
that
was
caused
by
this
dispersal.
I
can.
T
T
A
T
A
G
The
speaker
not
a
broader
transportation
study,
but
they
would
need
to
address
the
loading
and
servicing
issues
specific
to
their
site
for
some
time
in
the
policy
framework.
Alongside
of
those
applications,
we've
identified
the
need
to
be
enhancing
the
tram
transit
service
along
the
corridor
as
the
key
way
to
move
more
people
as
the
area
densifies.
So.
G
S
I
come
to
another
point,
so
this
has
been
flagged
for
some
time.
The
one
point
five
million
dollars
is
taken
out
of
the
transit
fund,
which,
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge
is
you
should
be
used
for
other
things,
but
normally
you
get
an
applicant
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
to
do
infrastructure
remediation,
whether
it's
streetscape
improvements
that
we've
asked
for
right-hand
turn
lanes.
Development
applications
as
part
of
their
agreement
with
the
city
are
often
required
to
to
make
those
investments
is
that
is
that
your?
G
The
speaker
there
is
a
portion
of
the
development
fee
that
is
allocated
to
a
whole
variety
of
different
investments
in
infrastructure,
including
everything
from
libraries
to
community
facilities.
But
it
has
never
been
the
assumption
or
the
intent
that
that
portion
of
development
fee
could
ever
pay
for
large-scale
capital
projects.
I.
T
S
G
Through
the
speaker,
this
is
the
busiest
surface
transit
corridor,
it's
a
critical
backbone
to
the
overall
transit
system.
The
functioning
of
the
financial
district,
which
serves
not
only
the
city
but
the
region
as
a
whole
I
think
it
could
easily
be
argued
that
this
is
a
critical
part
of
citywide
and
regional
infrastructure,
as
opposed
to
infrastructure
that
is
needed
to
respond
to
the
local
impact
of
new
development.
G
In
addition,
we
know
that
the
vast
majority
of
people
who
live
in
the
core
who
are
moving
into
the
core
and
live
directly
adjacent
to
the
financial
district
are
in
fact
using
walking
and
cycling
as
their
primary
form
of
transportation.
So
it's
difficult
to
draw
a
direct
line
between
those
developments
in
the
need
for
this
infrastructure.
It
serves
citywide
and
regional
purposes
and.
T
T
What
we
want
to
do,
precisely
because
you
described
the
King
Street,
as
is
service
as
slow
and
unreliable,
despite
our
best
efforts,
is
not
wait
any
longer
and
push
on
with
this,
and
that's
why
I
would
support
the
chief
planner
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
investment,
particularly
when
you
consider
that
this
benefits
65,000
daily
customers
of
transit.
No.
S
G
Through
the
speaker
to
my
earlier
point,
when
we
asked
for
those
contributions,
it
is
because
the
development
is
having
a
direct
impact
on
the
direct
area,
so
we
can
make
that
link
through
a
transportation
study,
and
my
point
is
that
this
is
in
fact,
a
corridor
that
is
serving
a
much
broader
catchment
area
and
the
challenge
that
we
see
her
on
King
Street.
In
part.
It's
a
result
of
our
success
of
the
financial
district.
It's
not
directly
linked
to
specific
development
in
the
instances
where
we
make
those
asset
of
a
developer.
I
Some
might
say
that
we
are
acting
too
too
quickly,
not
paying
attention
to
the
right
things
here.
I'm
wondering
we're
not
the
first
city
in
the
world
to
do
this.
Are
we
being
innovative
in
a
way
that
other
cities
have
yet
to
see?
Are
we
experimenting
in
ways
that
other
cities
have
not
seen
how
innovative
and
radical
is
this?
What
we're
doing
here
through.
G
I
T
I
K
You,
madam
Speaker,
yes
I,
would
agree,
I've,
seen
examples
of
similar
in
Portland,
certainly
in
Seattle,
which
well
just
about
700,000.
People
has
converted
their
principal
transit
corridor,
which
serves
300,000,
transit
riders
and
pedestrians
a
day
into
a
similar
configuration
that
we're
going
to
so.
I
K
You,
madam
speaker,
I
I,
couldn't
put
an
answer
to
that
specifically
I,
don't
believe
they
typically
are
a
cornerstone
of
building
a
vibrant,
walkable,
transit
friendly
downtown,
often
in
cities
where
these
are
launched.
There's
a
robust
dialogue
with
the
business
owners
and
the
business
associations
to
ensure
that
this
is
working
appropriately
and
changes
get
made
when
they
need
to
be
so.
I
I
This
is
low
risk
that
this
is
gonna,
hurt
us
economically
and
then
so.
My
last
question
is
this:
you
know
your
proposal.
Is
it
between
Bathurst
and
Sherbourne,
no
Jarvis,
sorry
Jarvis!
Are
we
being
bold
enough?
Are
we
being?
Are
we
being
a
little
timid
here
in
the
proposal
that
you
have
put
forth
and
should
we
be
taking
maybe
another
step
or
two,
even
with
the
pilot.
K
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
think
that
we
are
appropriately
in
rolling
out
something
and
we're
going
to
test
it
and
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
it's
appropriate
in
other
quarters,
but
I
think
it
is
an
extremely
low-risk
proposition
and
one
that
we
could
certainly
look
at
its
application
broader.
Once
we
start
to
look
at
the
data
to
ensure
that
it
is
delivering
what
we
expected
to
deliver.
Okay,.
K
O
O
K
You
we
have
we've
done
a
preliminary
analysis
and
we
will
continue
to
monitor
real-time
travel
times
on
the
corridors.
Both
the
east-west
corridors
of
Adelaide
Richmond,
as
well
as
some
of
the
north-south
quarters
as
well
and,
in
fact,
by
the
end
of
the
by
the
end
of
the
year,
I
think
actually
a
little
before
the
end
of
the
year.
We
will
have
a
more
robust
travel
model
of
a
large
swath
of
downtown
from
Dundas
to
the
waterfront.
Now.
O
Whenever
I
mention
or
use
the
word
pilot
in
conversations
with
constituents,
they
tend
to
disbelieve
me
that
they
believe
that
pilot
is
really
a
word
that
covers
over
a
permanent
change,
and
so
my
question
to
you
would
be
do
do
you
do
we
have
do
you
have
measuring
standards
already
in
place
that
say
if
we
don't
meet
all
or
many
of
the
requirements,
this
pilot
project
would
be
considered
as
unworkable
or
untenable.
So.
K
O
K
The
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
mention
about
a
pilot
is
that
we
are
not
putting
any
of
this
infrastructure
in
in
any
kind
of
permanent
fashion,
we're
using
signs
and
paint
and
markings,
and
to
me
that
is
something
that
is
very
comforting
about
a
pilot
project.
Truly.
Is
that
you're
not
actually
constructing
anything
out
of
concrete
one.
T
A
H
I
T
E
T
I
mean
I,
think
you
do
this
thing
in
an
iterative
way
and
I
mean
ideally
I'd
love
to
have
dedicated
transit
ways
everywhere
on
every
route,
but
being
realistic.
I
think
this
will
I'm
hopeful
that
this
will
prove
that
if
you
give
transit
a
fighting
chance
of
of
getting
through,
it
becomes
a
very
attractive
proposition
and
on
a
range
of
measures.
It'll
prove
to
be
successful.
If
it
is
counting
me
to
be
back
here
to
see
if
we
can
do
something
more
expansive,
all.
E
T
You
know
I
did
I
said
it
was
busy,
then
sort
of
2:00
a.m.
onwards.
It
will
begin
to
to
wane,
but
midnight
I've
been
down
there
at
midnight.
It
is,
it
is
pretty
busy,
which
is
why
we're
saying
from
a
TTC
perspective,
don't
water
this
down.
Let's
keep
the
pressure
on
because
the
streetcars
still
struggle
to
get.
T
C
T
I
mean
it's
pretty
intense
and
don't
forget
through
that
through
that
section
of
King
you
have
two
streetcar
services:
you've
got
the
504
King
and
you've
got
the
five
one
for
Cherry
Street.
What
we
do
is
we
ramp
up
the
service
from
the
start
of
traffic.
You
we
ramp
up
the
service
to
have
a
more
intense
service
at
the
morning,
peak
and
again
for
the
evening
peak,
but
it's
pretty
intense
throughout
the
day,
but
obviously
you
you
have
it
at
its
most
intense
at
the
busiest
times,
namely
the
peak
period.
C
A
C
K
C
So
the
the
distribution
are
there
more
taxis
in
the
evening.
But
how
is
the,
although
there's
20,000
cars
per
day
again
I
mean
wondering
where's,
the
the
heavy
heavy
distribution
of
the
cars
I
mean
from
2
p.m.
to
maybe
2
to
6
a.m.
there
might
not
be
many
cars
traveling
as
far
as
I
know,
on
King
Street,
but
where's.
The
heavy
constant
flow
through.
K
C
E
A
couple
of
quick
questions:
mr.
Byford,
we
have
in
terms
of
dedicated
right-of-ways
for
street
cars.
Are
there
three
that
we
have
in
the
city
now
Harbourfront,
st.
Clarence,
benign
or
other?
More?
No,
that's
correct!
That's
correct!
How
long
yeah,
Queensway,
yeah
I
guess
so
right,
right,
yeah!
That's
the
one!
That's
all
torn
up
right
now
and
st.
Claire
st.
Claire.
What
has
been
in
right.
T
E
T
Do
and
we
can't
we
can
provide
that
to
you
I'm
just
going
to
quote
a
couple:
Queen
Queen
Sookie
came
in
1990
right
and
before,
and
this
is
person
just
per
day
was
and
then
just
approximating
this
because
I'm
looking
at
an
axis
on
the
graph,
it
looks
like
around
two
and
a
half
thousand
per
day.
Afterwards
after
the
Queen's
key
right
away
was
introduced,
is
just
short
of
15,000.
Spadina
was
1997,
it
was
around
26,000
before
it's
now
over
40,000
st.
Clair
I
was
corrected
2010.
That
was
just
shy
of
30,000.
E
T
E
E
E
G
G
The
speaker
zero,
but
we
in
fact
mailed
out
30,000
public
meeting
flyers
to
the
adjacent
area.
We
also
held
Drive
time
radio
ads.
We
also
the
TTC
held
ads
in
the
subway
system
and
ads
in
the
streetcar
system,
and
we
handed
out
7500
postcards
to
users
along
the
corridor.
We
had
27,000
unique
web
page
views
from
across
the
entire
city
and
we
had
over
400
people
from
all
over
the
city
attend
our
May
public
meeting.
Now.
E
E
T
Question
numerous
numerous
changes:
we
have
worked
with
city
transportation
to
have
the
illuminated,
no
left
turn
signs
put
up
and
that
has
had
some
impact
at
the
TTC.
We
and
we've
also
done
enforcement
of
the
routes
who
get
the
cars
towed
where
they
shouldn't
be
parked.
We
have
introduced
all
door
boarding
with
proof
of
paint
with
a
proof
of
payment
regime.
We
have
supplemented
King
Street
with
buses
and
so
a
whole
range
of
changes
have
been
made
to
try
to
get
the
routes
of
work
more
effectively,
but
that's
still
not
enough.
T
T
E
T
The
main
impediment
to
our
streetcar
services
that
you
still
get
people
wanting
to
turn
left.
So
if
we
can
stop
the
through
traffic,
which
this
trial
is
designed
to
to
do
and
and
get
people,
they
can
still
access
local
blocks,
but
they
must
turn
right
at
the
ends
of
the
end
of
a
block.
That
will
mean
that
you
don't
have
that
left
turn.
Those
left
turns
going
on
and
the
streetcars
have
a
much
clearer
run.
T
L
You
a
madam
Speaker
I,
have
a
motion
which
I
think
is
going
to
be
circulated
and
we'll
put
it
up
and
I'll,
just
maybe
briefly,
run
through
before
making
some
general
comments.
What
it
provides
for.
I.
Think
I've
acknowledged
before
at
the
time
of
the
executive
committee
meeting.
We
didn't
do
an
adequate
job
unintentionally
of
consulting
with
and
talking
to
the
taxi
industry.
L
With
respect
to
how
this
would
impact
on
them
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
I
think
we've
come
some
distance
since
then,
and
so
the
first
paragraph
here
is
to
provide
for
a
late-night
exemption
from
the
prohibition
against
through
movement
on
King
Street
from
10:00
p.m.
to
5:00
a.m.
because
there's
no
question
in
my
mind
and
I.
L
Think
many
of
the
minds
in
this
room
that
the
cab
industry
does
represent
an
important
part
of
the
overall
transportation
system
to
get
people
around,
and
especially
at
that
time
of
night
in
that
part
of
town,
so
that
that
it
provides
for
that
it
provides
for
a
doubling
approximately.
It
says.
Doubling
of
the
number
of
taxi
stands
taxi
stand
spaces
through
the
length
of
the
pilot
project,
which
our
officials
tell
us
can
be
done.
It
talks
about
finding
some
alcohol
replacement
on
street
parking
spots
on
the
side
street.
L
So
they
can
play
the
role
that
we
want
them
to
continue
to
play
in
the
downtown,
especially
at
that
time
of
day.
That
is
provided
for
by
the
exemption
may
I
just
say
by
way
of
general
comment,
madam
Speaker,
that
I
think
everybody
agrees.
I
haven't
found
a
single
person,
yet
whatever
their
view
may
be
on
what
it
is
we're
proposing
to
do
today.
That
doesn't
agree
with
the
notion
that
King
Street
in
its
present
configuration
and
present
form
is
dysfunctional.
L
It
is
dysfunctional,
so
to
me,
the
notion
of
doing
nothing
is
not
a
viable
option
for
us.
The
second
thing
is
and
I'm
a
believer
in
this.
It
was
a
believer.
I
was
a
believer
in
it
when
it
came
to
blur
Street
and
the
bicycle
lanes
and
I'm
a
believer
here.
That
I
think
it
is
a
sensible
way
to
go
about
things,
to
have
a
pilot
project
and
I
think
that
the
extensive
public
consultation
that
the
councillor
Layton
was
just
asking
about
a
mr.
L
driver
and
others
have
talked
about
helped
us
to
refine
this
I've
sort
of
watched
as
the
process
has
unfolded
from
three
or
four
different
options
down
to
the
one
that
is
being
recommended
and
has
been
I,
think
improved
upon
by
some
of
the
things
we've
done,
for
example
with
regard
to
taxis.
But
the
bottom
line
is
we're
going
to
do
something
to
address
the
dysfunction
and
we're
going
to
do
something
that
is
done
by
way
of
a
pilot
project
which
we
will
then
be
able
to
assess
in
all
respects
once
it
is.
L
The
pilot
project
period
is
up
and
decide
whether
it's
working
and
what
to
do
about
all
of
that.
But
what
it
does,
madam
Speaker
is
it
does
what
we
must
do,
given
the
numbers
and
given
our
principal
responsibilities
here,
which
is
to
make
sure
that
we
move
the
greatest
number
of
people
in
the
best
way
possible
around
the
city
and
so
what
it
is
not
doing
it
is
it
not
stopping
people
in
cars
from
moving
around
the
city
and
I
will
say
on
the
subject.
L
That's
been
asked
about
in
the
question
period
that
I
have
asked
in
that
way.
That
I
will
ask
when
we
sit
down
together
with
all
the
relevant
people
from
construction
and
Public,
Works
and
everywhere
else.
Are
there
any
just
because
I
know
somebody
was
asking
about
it
a
few
minutes
ago?
Are
there
any
public
undertakings
that
are
happening
of
the
kind
of
which
there
are
quite
a
few
this
year
on
Queen,
Street
and
so
on?
Are
there
any
happening
on
those
parallel
streets?
Well,
we
have
the
pilot
project
going
and
I've
been
informed.
L
The
answer
to
that
question
is
no,
and
so
I
can
assure
you.
There
will
be
no
one
watching
this
more
diligently
and
faithfully
and
with
a
keener
eye
than
I
will
be
to
make
sure
that
to
give
this
the
best
chance
in
circumstances
where
we're
not
having
well,
you
know
we're
not
having
construction
to
work
on
those
parallel
streets
needs
to
be
the
traffic
that
I'll
be
watching
that
very
carefully,
but
the
other
thing
that
is
really
the
principal
feature
of
this
is
this
is
going
to.
L
We
are
told
by
those
who
advise
us
in
these
matters,
help
the
transit
to
be
more
reliable
and
to
move
better.
My
son
is
one
of
the
many
people,
so
it's
not
totally
anecdotal
for
a
motor
there,
my
son
and
his
fiancee.
They
they
live
and
walk
along
the
street
where
the
King
Street
along
King
Street,
to
go
to
work.
Every
morning
and
they
walk
because
they
would
take
transit,
sometimes
mostly
because
they're
later
than
they
should
be,
but
they
can
walk
faster
than
the
streetcar
goes.
L
That
is
clearly
not
an
acceptable
arrangement
in
the
1900s,
let
alone
in
the
21st
century.
We've
got
to
take
some
of
these
steps
that
account
for
the
fact
that
we've
allowed
massive
development
to
occur
to
the
west.
This
is
the
one
of
the
biggest
surface
transit
routes
in
North
America,
and
that
we
have
to
take
account
of
the
fact
that,
right
now,
that
Street
is
not
working
and
it's
especially
not
working
for
the
greatest
number
of
people
65,000
who
are
travelling
by
way
of
transfer.
Two
final
comments.
L
Madam
Speaker
is
consistent
with
what
we're
doing
on
Bloor
Street.
We
are
going
to
measure
this
nineteen
ways
from
Sunday,
because
that's
what
you
do
in
pilot
projects
to
see
how
what
part
what
parts
are
working
and
what
parts
might
not
be
working,
and
so
we're
going
to
measure
it
carefully.
It
isn't
just
gonna,
be
something
where
we
just
say
well
either.
Somebody
concludes
in
a
report
and
finally,
I
would
just
say
that
that
to
those
who
are
slightly
reluctant
about
this,
we
have
to
do
something
and
we
have
to
try
to
make
this
work.
L
I
am
convinced
from
all
the
work
that's
been
done
and
all
the
consultation
that's
taking
place.
This
is
the
best
available
option
with
some
improvements
we're
making
today
through
these
motions,
and
that
we
should
support
this
as
something
that
a
21st,
Century
City
must
do
to
move
people
effectively
and
to
protect
the
livability
and
the
economy
of
the
city.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Thank.
P
L
Think
when
I
heard
the
whole
thing
explained,
madam
Speaker,
through
you
to
some
of
your
questions
that
the
executive
committee,
it
was
evident
to
me
that
through
misdirected
emails
to
the
wrong
people
and
all
this
kind
of
thing,
there
clearly
had
not
been
the
kind
of
consultation
there
there
should
have
been.
But
I
think
that
we've
tried
to
make
up
for
lost
time.
L
When
I
say
we,
the
city,
has
in
recent
weeks
by
sitting
down
and
discussing
some
of
these
issues
in
considerable
detail,
one
on
one,
which
I
think
is
a
better
way
even
than
the
town
hall
meetings
and
all
that
kind
of
thing,
they're
good
for
their
own
purpose.
So
I
think
we
hadn't
done
as
good
a
job
at
the
beginning.
Would.
P
You
be
amenable
to
to
a
friendly
amendment
instead
of
10
p.m.
to
change
that
to
9
p.m.
because
a
lot
of
the
people
that
are
coming
downtown
to
the
entertainment
district
I,
do
they
try
and
catch
a
dinner
catch
a
show
and
allowing
the
tax
caps
to
to
come
through
at
10
o'clock
might
be
a
little
too
late.
I.
L
Madam
speaker,
through
you,
I
I,
have
obviously
heard
about
this.
This
is
a
business
of
whether
it
should
be
9:10
or
some
other
hour.
I've
also
listened
to
our
officials
and
listened
to
others,
and
you
know
I
also
made
a
a
joke,
if
not
that
it's
a
joking
matter,
but
I
made
a
joke
at
when
speaking
to
the
media.
L
P
C
You
speaker
and
in
this
vote
in
consideration
day
of
King
Street,
has
been
a
long
time
coming
years
and
years
and
the
works
and
before
anything
else,
I
want
to
start
by
thanking
can
commending
staff,
because
we've
had
three
departments
working
together
jointly
to
bring
this
forward
and
that's
important
to
note.
The
TTC
led
by
Andy
Byford
transportation
services
led
by
our
new
GM,
taking
up
a
big
project
right
off
the
top
and
Barbara
Kay
Barbara
gray.
C
C
My
remarks
is
as
one
of
two
local
city
councillors
for
this
pilot
project
and
and
unfortunately,
the
other
local
councillor
is
our
deputy
mayor,
Councillor
McConnell,
who,
if
she
was
here
and
not
battling
in
a
hospital
I,
have
to
tell
you
she'd,
be
giving
a
much
better
and
more
forceful
speech
on
King
Street
than
I
would
and
Pam
if
you're
in
the
hospital.
Listening
we'll
do
this.
C
For
you
right
now,
King
Street
is
in
fact
broken,
and
we
know
that
and-
and
it
does
not
work
for
anybody-
nobody,
if
you
drive
you
avoid
King
at
all.
If
you
take
the
streetcar,
as
the
mayor
indicated,
you
often
get
out
and
walk
if
you're
walking
on
the
sidewalk
they're,
often
overcrowded
it
just
is
broken.
C
King
Street
doesn't
work,
and
meanwhile
it
is
the
busiest
surface-level
transit
route
in
all
of
Toronto
and
it's
the
third
busiest
transit
route
surface
or
underground
in
the
whole
city,
and
it
is
time
which
is
what
we're
doing
here
to
simply
redesign
a
street
to
move
people
quickly.
That's
all
this
is
about
moving
people
and
rethinking
how
you
use
a
street,
it's
not
more
complicated
than
that,
but
it's
not
just
about
moving
people
quickly.
Today
it
is
about
the
future.
C
The
population
of
downtown
Toronto,
which
is
represented
by
councillor
McConnell,
Wang
Tam
and
myself
has
a
population
of
250,000
people.
That's
how
many
people
live
in
the
downtown
core,
but
the
daytime
population
of
downtown
grows
to
nearly
900,000
people.
One-Third
of
all
the
jobs
in
the
entire
city
are
located
downtown,
to
say
nothing
of
the
universities
located
downtown
and
with
41%
of
all
non-residential
development
in
the
city
happening
in
downtown.
It's
only
going
to
become
more
dense
during
the
day,
and
so
yes,
this
is
about
quality
of
life.
C
It's
about
getting
people
in
and
out
of
the
downtown
quicker,
so
they
have
more
time
to
spend
with
their
families.
But
it's
also
about
economic
prosperity.
We
cannot
have
a
city,
it
has
a
huge
economic
hub
located
in
the
core
that
people
cannot
get
to
quickly,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
move
people
in
and
out
of
the
core
quickly,
if
we're
going
to
get
people
back
to
their
houses
quickly
or
to
their
jobs
quickly,
we
need
to
use
the
street
better.
C
I'll
just
close
and
not
use
the
full
five
minutes
by
saying
that
I
recognize
that
change
is
hard,
I,
I,
often
say
and-
and
you
all
know
it
well-
that
you
cannot
put
a
speed
bump
on
a
local
street
without
fierce
debate.
Anything
involving
our
streets
is
deeply
personal
and
deeply
hard
because
we
all
use
them,
but
on
King
change
is
absolutely
necessary
to
do.
C
Nothing
is
only
to
to
let
it
get
worse,
but
it's
also
not
revolutionary
cities
around
the
world
have
done
this
already
we're
late
to
the
game,
and
so,
if
we
are
going
to
enter
the
21st
century
and
start
designing
streets
to
move
people
and
not
just
cars,
King
Street
is
a
good
place
to
start
and
I
hope
this
spreads
right
across
downtown.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
B
B
There
should
be
so
no
surprise
that
I
have
some
opposition
to
this.
My
first
motion
is
to
to
take
a
different
path,
to
make
some
improvements,
and
should
that
fail.
I
have
a
second
motion
that
at
least
offers
a
tweak
to
the
project
as
it
is
proposed.
So
I
guess
the
the
obvious
question
is.
Is
you
know?
Why
is
the
guy
from
the
West
End
from
central
Etobicoke
advocating
against
this?
B
You
know
what
what
interest
do
I
have
in
this,
but
it
reminds
me
of
a
debate
we
had
recently
at
Public
Works,
where
councillor
Fillion
came
in
very
valiant
valiant
Lee
advocated
for
changes
to
the
community
that
he
represents
along
Yonge
Street,
and
what
I
took
away
from
that
was.
It
was
a
very
much
a
local
use
of
the
road
versus
a
network
perspective
of
the
road
he
wanted
some
changes
that
would
serve
his
local
community
better.
It
was
going
to
be
leading
some
traffic
lanes.
B
It
was
gonna,
be
some
public
realm
improvements
and
that
ultimately
took
it
from
path,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
members
of
P
work,
at
least
for
sure
myself
said,
I
appreciate
the
argument.
In
the
wants
of
the
local
people
there,
but
what
I
have
to
think
about
is
how
the
network
works
in
the
city
and
how
we
move,
people
back
and
forth
so
I
don't
know.
I
was
on
King
Street
in
in
May.
If
I
could
have
this
put
up
on
the
screen,
you
know
it's
a
really
nice
Street.
B
This
is
the
middle
of
the
day.
Cars
were
free-flowing,
people
were
free-flowing
along
the
sidewalk
and
I
was
thinking
about
this
upcoming
debate
and
I
rode
the
streetcar
that
day
and
I
said
you
know
absolutely
I've,
been
through
the
streetcar
at
rush
hour
and
it's
miserable,
but
so
is
a
lot
of
surface
transit
all
over
the
downtown
core
and
that's
to
do
with
volume,
and
we
heard
from
for
mr.
B
B
We
are
essentially
shutting
down
the
artery
and
I'm,
not
sure
why
we
want
to
go
that
far
if
we
haven't
tried
other
things
such
as
some
continued
work
on
prohibiting
left-hand
turns
because
I
heard
it
today
and
I
heard
it
earlier
that,
as
least
as
the
main
problem
at
this
point
in
time.
So
to
illustrate
my
point
even
further,
you
know:
surprise
that's
the
human
heart
and
you
know
again,
why
is
the
guy
from
the
West
End
worried
about
this
kind
of
stuff?
B
Well,
we
think
about
these
these
these
arteries,
and
here
we
are,
we
have
King.
Maybe
we've
got
Bloor
Street
over
here
and
we've
got
the
Gardiner.
You
know
as
we
do
construction
on
these
roads.
We
begin
to
block
these
up
when
we
take
away
some
live
lanes
start
to
fill
up
these
arteries.
It
should
be
no
surprise.
Well
what
happens
when
you
start
to
close
off
the
arteries?
Well,
the
heart
dies
and
the
body
dies
and
I
really
don't
want
to
be
a
contributor
to
that.
So
what
do?
B
B
B
Sorry
they
can't
do
that
from
there.
But
it's
this
linkage
right
here,
that's
so
important.
What
happens
when
you
come
to
those
Road
close,
do
not
enter
signs.
Well,
you
have
to
make
the
jump
over
here
and
I.
Really
an
earnest
would
ask
this
council
that,
if
you're
going
to
do
this
and
I
will
point
out
that
again,
I
represent
the
people
of
central
Etobicoke.
B
I
would
ask
the
council
that
you
at
least
allow
some
improvements
to
this
linkage
here,
so
that
the
motorists
that
do
use
this
as
a
bypass
or
as
a
flow
through
the
city
there's
nothing
wrong
with
that
with
driving
into
the
core
and
using
your
city
and
then
going
back
home
at
the
end
of
the
day
that
you
at
least
give
some
relief
so
that
this
thing
continues
to
function
and
that
all
the
front
Street
is
an
ideal
and
it
isn't
the
perfect
linkage.
At
least
there
is
some
ability
to
flow
back
and
forth.