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City Council, meeting 29, May 24, 2017 - Part 2 of 3 - Afternoon Session
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Councillor
Robinson
I
do
indeed
the
next
one
is
on
page
eight.
It
is
NY
twenty
two
point,
two
and
I'm
actually
deleting
a
recommendation.
This
is
a
refusal
report
of
a
unbelievable
development
proposal.
The
planning
staff
are
very
much
against
it
and
I'm
just
going
to
pull
based
on
the
conversation
I've
had
with
legal
and
pulling
item
two
out
of
the
recommendations
which
you
see
before
you
on
the
screen.
F
G
H
F
A
A
A
J
A
C
K
C
K
C
C
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C
M
N
D
Madam
Speaker,
the
report
before
us
is
looking
at
the
financial
impact
of
the
planning
and
design
phase
in
it.
It's
broken
down
on
page
5
of
the
report
we're
looking
at
100
million
dollars
for
relief
line
sales,
five
million
dollars
for
relief
line,
North
study
and
the
young
subway
for
90
million
dollars,
and
then
those
sources
of
funding
have
been
identified.
All.
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C
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C
A
speaker
I
would
say
no
to
that.
Not
necessarily
these
projects
take
many
years
in
their
development
and
getting
approvals
are
not
dependent
on
one
particular
government
in
office
at
any
particular
point
in
time,
we
have
to
get
the
advance
of
planning
in
order
to
be
funding
ready
for
these
projects
and
whether
it's
this
current
provincial
government
of
this
current
federal
government
Arden,
the
next
ones,
we'd
like
to
be
in
a
position
to
be
able
to
secure
the
support
for
a
project
that's
been
designed
to
15
to
30
percent
is.
C
C
M
Well,
just
to
follow
on
the
previous
line
of
questioning
madam
Speaker
to
be
clear.
While
we
are
we're
making
a
significant
investment
here
and
I
dare
say,
the
other
municipality
as
well,
the
the
Yonge
Street
expansion
and
the
downtown
relief
lines
have
been
articulated.
Have
they
not
in
provincial
comments,
Metrolinx
comments
on
I
moved
2020.
Overall,
these
are
known
to
them.
O
M
C
M
Getting
into
design
up
front
so
that
when
we
ask
for
funds
and
when
we
describe
to
them
what
their
partnership
would
mean,
we
we
won't
be
talking
out
of
our
hats,
will
will
be
further
on.
Have
we
ever
had
a
situation
where
it
was
the
reverse,
where
we
had
a
commitment,
a
large
commitment
of
funds
from
the
feds,
the
commitment
of
funds
from
the
province,
and
then
everybody
agreed
to
align,
and
in
fact
none
of
these
studies
had
been
done.
M
M
O
C
As
you
know,
the
station
control
measures
in
which
I
think
are
pretty
effective,
now
effectively
managing
crowd
control
at
the
station
and
so
that
that
does
help
12
times
and
keeps
people
safe
and
keeps
people
moving
through
the
station
and
in
the
longer
term,
though,
we
developed
a
plan
to
completely
expand
young
applause
station
and
our
lives
Malcolm's
talk
to
her
or
Susan,
as
you
see
fit.
Welcome
through
the
speaker.
C
O
C
Correct
chat
and
the
I
mean
it
is
a
single
point
of
pressure
for
the
young
line.
I
mean
effectively.
As
you
know,
you've
got
Tunes
change
points
got
st.
George,
but
the
one
that
takes
the
brunt
is
Yonge
and
Bloor,
and
although
we
did
some
work
a
few
years
back
to
widen
the
platforms
and
that
certainly
helped
this,
the
design
is.
I
O
H
O
C
H
H
O
Q
O
C
O
Q
C
O
So
but
just
I'm
hoping
we
haven't
answered
that,
but
just
my
my
question,
I
guess
is
so:
we've
got
young
blue
improvements
around
a
billion
dollars
at
0%
design.
We've
got
relief
line
around
seven
billion
dollars
at
zero
percent
design,
but
we
don't
know
which
one
adds
more
capacity
to
line
one
at
this
point.
C
C
O
E
O
K
O
C
C
L
E
E
Anyone
who
relies
on
the
young
line
today
to
get
to
work
or
school
in
the
morning
or
get
home
in
the
afternoon
knows
that
you
are
waiting
on
the
platform,
often
train
after
train
after
train
and
then
once
we're
on
there.
You
are
squeezed
in
there
like
a
sardine
and
that
we
have
a
significant
overcrowding
problem
at
the
pinch
point,
which
is
young
a
blur
and
what
we've
been
debating
over
years,
how
to
expand
whether
the
east,
western
north
I,
would
just
ask
us
logically
to
think
and
I've
used
this.
E
This
example
before
at
the
TTC,
if
one
has
a
tube,
if
a
reasonable
logical
person
has
a
tube
and
it's
clogged
in
the
middle,
does
a
reasonable
person
begin
by
trying
to
expand
that
tube
and
stuff
more
things
in
or
do
they
try
to
relieve
the
congestion
within
the
tube
to
be
able
to
make
it
function?
There
there's
no
reasonable
or
rational
reply
other
than
dealing
with
the
clog
that
you
have
and
that's
why
the
relief
line
has
been
the
fact-based
key
priority
for
our
city
to
move
on.
E
Unfortunately,
every
time
that
we've
made
decisions
that
have
put
politics,
whether
you
believe
it's
well-meaning
politics
or
now
Cavelli
in
politics
or
vote,
pandering
politics
or
if
you
believe
it's
even
a
strategic
mechanism
to
get
to
where
you
want
to
go,
it's
ended
up
in
the
wrong
place.
I
would
submit
that
the
one-stop
subway
replacement
to
the
7
stop
our
tea
was
a
poor
decision
based
on
good
planning
principles
and
financial
goals.
E
We've
been
continuously
making
decisions
based
on
put
politics
and
they
end
up
in
the
wrong
place,
and
we
have
a
dirt
the
funds
to
be
able
to
support
of
our
priorities.
We've
also
asked
I've
asked
our
planning
staff.
Before
can
you
can
you
write
a
report
on,
for
example,
comparing
different
options
in
front
of
us,
and
they
say
we
don't
have
the
resource.
If
you
don't
at
the
time,
we
don't
have
the
staff
to
do
that,
and
now
we
are
asking
them
to
move
on
a
young
extension.
E
Look
at
look
at
the
priorities
that
have
already
been
reviewed
during
the
feeling
congested
initiative,
it's
not
in
the
top
ten.
All
the
our
key
projects
that
were
in
visited
years
ago
are
actually
higher
priorities,
where's
the
funding
for
those
all
those
promises
that
were
made
to
those
communities
along
the
waterfront,
where
the
funds
for
those
right
now
we
have
a
top
priority,
the
relief
line
where
the
funds
for
those
and
meanwhile,
all
of
a
sudden,
the
young
extension
has
four
I
believe
political
purposes.
I've
been
suggested
to
move
forward
concurrently
with
the
relief
line.
E
That's
politics,
but
I,
don't
see
any
factual,
rational
arguments
for
doing
so,
and
I
strongly.
I
strongly
urge
you
all
to
make
a
fact
and
evidence
based
decision
on
transit
planning,
rather
than
joining
the
mayor
in
this.
In
this
concert
with
York
Regional
mayors,
it
will
go
sideways,
it
always
has,
and
it
always
will,
with
respect
to
the
mayor's
position
on
the
relief
line,
all
of
a
sudden
that's
a
top
priority,
but
during
the
election
and
subsequent
to
the
election.
E
If
we
were
to
be
honest
with
ourselves,
there
have
been
efforts
to
sideline
the
relief
line
and
focus
on
whether
it
be
the
one-stop
subway
or
smart
track,
which
is
no
longer
the
smart
track
that
was
promised
that
will
not
be
funded
exclusively
by
tax
increment
financing.
Everything
that
we've
been
focusing
on
prior
as
priorities.
Almost
everything
has
been
based
on
political
pursuits
at
that
moment
and
it's
got
to
stop
now.
It's
got
to
stop
now,
because
we
are
hurting
people
and
we
were
doing
harm.
D
E
We
have
a
decision
to
make
today.
Do
we
focus
on
a
key
priority
that
all
the
evidence
and
all
the
experts
and
all
of
our
staff
say
is
a
priority?
Do
we
then
work
with
our
colleagues
at
the
provincial
level
and
the
federal
level
federal
level
to
see
it
through
to
fruition?
I
believe
that
is
the
course
to
take,
but
to
start
sort
of
playing
games
with
this,
like
every
other
project
has
had
games
played,
is
the
wrong
way
to
go.
So
please
focus
on
the
relief
line.
Let's
get
this
done.
A
F
A
F
A
F
You
started
out
by
talking
about
politics.
My
community
listens
to
you
and
is
wondering
whether
or
not
you
are
just
strictly
thinking
through
tunnel
vision,
with
the
comments
you've
just
made
and
not
worried
so
much
about
the
amounts
of
people
that
actually
come
into
the
city
and
work
every
day
and
spend
money
every
day
to
contribute
to
Toronto's
economy,
those
from
the
north.
E
I
would
my
my
best
advice
to
you.
Counselor
is
this:
if,
if
I
served,
the
communities
that
you
represent
I
would
actually
go
and
be
honest
with
them.
I
would
lay
out
what
the
evidence-based
priorities
are.
I
would
support
the
Finch,
LRT
I
would
go
out
there
and
tell
them
that
I'm
going
to
be
talking
about
voting,
I'm
going
to
be
voting
for
and
supporting
actively
ways
to
make
their
lives
better,
rather
than
taking
some
populist.
Pandering
approach
show
my
as
I'm
witnessing
right
now.
F
F
Those
people
that
come
down
with
their
car
are
being
are
suggesting.
I'm
hearing
this
anyway,
are
being
told
we
don't
really
care
how
you
get
down
here,
whether
it's
your
car
or
whether
it's,
whether
it's
you
know
a
friend
or
whatever
it
is,
is
bringing
you
down,
doesn't
have
the
right
message.
Is
it
your
memory?
Is
it
the
right
message,
counselor
Motlow,
to
send
to
the
people
that
spend
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
to
melody
Rollo's
economy?
Do
you
have.
A
A
N
You,
madam
Speaker,
madam
Speaker,
earlier
on
I,
asked
staff
about
when
the
report
was
supposed
to
come
back,
staff
came
up
and
says
2018
later
on.
It
was
advised
by
staff
that
my
assumption
of
20
early
2017
was
appropriate.
Madam
Speaker,
what
we're
having
here
is
I
can
say
tunnel
vision,
I,
say
tunnel
vision
with
all
respect,
because
we're
looking
to
build
a
relief
line,
we're
looking
to
build
the
one-stop
subway
line
to
be
in
the
Scarborough
and
I'm,
going
to
ask
my
friend,
councilor
greasy
and
how's
the
shiner.
N
You
know
due
respect,
isn't
it
it
and
you
don't
want
to
take
the
conversation
outside?
That's
all
I'm
gonna
ask
for,
but
madam
Speaker
I'm
having
difficulty
understanding.
Why
we're
looking
to
build
the
the
one-stop
subway
in
Scarborough
I
supported
that
because
we're
going
to
be
far
the
Scarborough
I'm
having
difficulty
regarding
the
possibility
of
being
a
relief
line
from
Papes
subway
station
to
downtown?
N
Well
we're
not
looking
at
relief
lines
along
Sheppard
from
Yonge
Street
to
LM
down,
see
I
got
a
letter
here
that
a
road
to
councillor
Pasternak
on
February
15,
test
Council
passed
an
act
asked
at
that
time.
His
environment
has
been
ever
been
conducted
for
this
initiative
and
could
it
be
used
in
today's
registry
of
environment?
N
The
answer
was:
no
environmental
assessment
has
been
undertaken
pertaining
to
westerly
extension
of
line
for
Shephard,
subway
and
I
would
say
to
you,
madam
Speaker,
although
we
asked
stop
last
year
to
take
a
look
at
doing
a
study
along
Sheppard
subway.
Probably
that
study
has
not
even
been
begun
from
the
answer
that
I
got
this
morning.
I
will
assume
so
and
if
I
wrong,
I'm
apologize.
But
if
it
has
study
has
been
done
and
I
started,
I'd
like
to
see
where
it's
going
and
I
don't
understand
why.
A
A
N
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Madam
Speaker
I.
Don't
think
the
people
north
of
the
401
in
Scarborough
and
in
north
Europe
deserve
anything
less
as
the
people
along
the
Danforth
line,
the
Breuer
line
and
the
line
coming
along
the
relief
line.
I
think
the
people
of
Scarborough
deserve
just
as
much
attention
just
as
much
TLC
tender,
love
and
care
and
attention
to
it,
and
for
us
not
to
even
speak
about
the
line.
N
That's
where
infuriates
me
infuriates
my
constituents
and
I'm
sure
infuriates
the
rest
of
the
afford
for
word
for
words
that
are
north
of
four
and
a
half
words
that
are
north
of
the
401.
Those
people
pay
taxes
just
as
equally
as
everybody
else
and
they're
not
going
to
be
getting
anything
in
response.
Not
only
they're
not
going
to
be
getting
anything
in
response,
but
I,
don't
think
the
item
that
we
approved
in
council
here
has
given
any
consideration
or
any
thought
if
I'm
incorrect,
please
show
me
and
then
I
would
just
say.
N
Where
is
our
relief
line?
Why
do
we
have
to
spend
1
hour
and
45
minutes
folks,
1
hour
and
45
minutes
assertive
a
flock
and
I
got
here
at
9:45
to
come
from
my
home
and
residence
to
downtown
to
work?
Why
do
those
people
deserve
something
less
than
everybody
else?
Why
are
we
talking
about
people
in
the
downtown
port,
we're
going
to
build
your
relief
length,
fantastic?
They
deserve
early
Frank.
Does
that
mean
because
we're
going
to
be
able
to
build
a
relief
line
downtown?
N
Does
that
mean
that
the
people
of
Scarborough
eight
report,
there's
people
of
Scarborough
Rouge
River,
deserve
anything
less?
Does
that
mean
that
norm?
Kelly's
word
my
word
chin
Lee's
word
and
Nathan.
The
Shands
word
deserve
anything
less.
Why
is
the
Sheppard
sub
we
not
on
track?
Why
are
we
even
staff
saying?
Well,
we
thought
it
was
2018.
I've
bet
you
dollars
to
donuts.
No
work
has
been
done
and
I
bet
you
dollars
to
doughnuts.
No
instructions
were
given
to
staff.
To
do
some
work
probably
is
going
to
be
shelf
somewhere.
N
It's
going
to
be
put
at
the
top
of
the
shelf
or
at
the
bottom
of
the
shelf,
and
the
people
north
of
the
401
are
going
to
get
just
forgotten
again.
Madam
Speaker
I'm
not
going
to
be
supporting
a
either
of
the
proposals
unless
I
start
seeing
solid
evidence
and
I
do
mean
solid
evidence
that
the
Sheppard
subway
line
is
on
the
drawing
books.
Staff
are
engaged
in
as
we
ask
them
to
do
that,
and
it's
actively
been
looked
upon
and
the
money
that
we're
spending
in
other
lines.
B
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
have
a
motion.
If
staff
could
put
it
up
on
the
screen,
it's
to
amend,
8t
and
for
a
robust
community
consultation,
communications
and
stakeholder
relations
plan
developed
as
part
of
planning,
the
dawn
mill
line
to
be
developed
by
a
third-party
consultant
in
consultation
with
city
staff
and
local
councillors
in
the
affected
area.
So
I
think
that
public
consultation
makes
the
project
more
successful
and
big
projects
like
this
in
the
city
have
benefited
from
bringing
in
someone
from
the
outside.
B
These
projects
will
have
impacts
well
beyond
mere
lines
on
a
page
bringing
in
an
outside
consultant
from
the
outset.
Let's
staff
focus
on
key
issues
and
as
well
to
ensure
that
the
economic
concerns
and
community
building
are
fully
understood,
requires
some
breaking
down
of
silos
actually
spoken
to
councillor
Robinson
about
this
amendment.
She
is
fine
with
it
I
spoken
to
councillor
min
and
Wang
and
to
councilor
Burnside
as
well,
and
they
think
it's
fine,
so
I
think.
Actually,
this
is
going
to
help
the
community
consultation,
so
I
hope
that
you
can
support
it.
Q
A
Q
You
thank
you
very
much.
Madam
Speaker
I
have
a
three
motions:
a
B
and
C
I'll
go
backwards,
see
I'd,
ask
a
staff
to
put
it
on,
and
that's
for
the
peace
north
of
steals
for
the
young
North
Extension,
it's
clear
in
the
documents,
but
to
make
it
clear
to
everyone
else
and
to
the
public
at
large
that
this
is
not
an
extension
where
we're
putting
our
money
into
it,
that
we
see
York
region
putting
month.you
money
into
it.
Q
The
province,
however
way
they
organizing
it
we're
doing
we're
part
of
that
project
because
we're
good
neighbors
to
our
friends
to
the
north,
and
it's
on
that
basis
that
I
think
Toronto
for
us.
It's
not
a
strategic
project,
isn't
simply
is
not
a
strategic
project.
It
might
be
for
them
at
their
decision.
We
can
support
them
in
that
decision,
but
it
has
to
be
a
no
cost
to
us
and
that's
in
the
report.
The
second
motion
is
for
the
Peace
of
the
relief
line
that
is
north
of
the
Danforth
in
questions
to
staff.
Q
The
it
was
clear
that
they
do
not
have
a
fixed
alternative
as
to
what
that
north
of
the
Danforth
would
look
like.
It
might
be
a
subway,
it
might
be
an
LRT.
Some
pieces
might
be
at
grade,
some
pieces
might
be
below
grade,
but
the
motion
only
talks
about
a
subway,
so
this
clarifies
that
we
are
looking
at
at
a
variety
of
modalities
above-ground
and
underground
subway
in
non
subway
and
I.
Q
Think
frankly,
if
some
of
this
is
a
looked
at
closely,
it
might
just
be
given
the
of
this
long-term
line,
going
up
to
a
shepherd
and
perhaps
even
steals
and
beyond
that
we
will
get
a
much
bigger
bang
for
the
buck
if
we
can
keep
as
much
of
it
as
possible
at
great.
It's
moving
all
that
earth
that
cost
so
much
money.
Okay.
Now
the
last
motion,
which
is
really
the
first
motion.
It
is
to
really
look
to
the
next
step.
I
worked
on
this
motion
with
staffing.
Should
the
egg
Lincoln?
Madam
Clerk?
Q
Q
That's
happening
in
councilor
Grimes
in
concert
did
see
a
nose
ward,
another
billion
dollars,
really
fine,
seven
billion
dollars,
Shepard
East
LRT,
a
billion
a
billion
and
a
half
young
North.
That's
not
our
project.
So
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
cause
there
Finch
LRT
to
the
airport,
that
might
be
another
five
hundred
to
a
billion,
but
fleet
and
service
expansion.
Half
a
billion
young
blue
interchange,
a
billion
platform
edge
doors
could
be
half
a
billion
to
a
billion
automatic
train.
Control
could
be
a
billion.
Q
Re
are
five
hundred
Bloor
Danforth
extension
to
the
east.
Three
point:
the
four
billion
dollars.
When
you
add
all
this
up,
madam
Speaker,
we
are
looking
at
over
twenty
billion
dollars
now
when
I
apply
one
set
of
values
to
it
when
I
think
employment,
I
think
you
know
what
Eglinton
West
is
a
very,
very
important
line
because
it
connects
to
the
employment
center
at
the
airport
when
I
think
social
equity,
I.
Q
Think
Eglinton
East
is
very
important
because
it
connects
to
some
priority
communities
and
also
to
students
when
I
think
of
new
development
land
used
development.
I.
Remember
once
asking
the
city
city
planner
how
many
people
are
coming
south
of
the
Gardiner
Expressway
and
her
answer
was
five
hundred
thousand
people
over
the
next
thirty
to
forty
years.
We
need
to
really
think
through
what
is
happening
from
Union
Station
south.
So
if
you
use
that
screen,
I
think
the
waterfront
East
and
waterfront
West
projects
come
through
as
a
needing
priority.
Q
So
some
of
this
is
about
the
values
that
you
have
so
I
think
as
a
next
step
and
why?
Why
did
I
pick
the
data
that
this
would
come
back
in
early
2019,
Frank
gates,
post
the
next
election?
Let's
staff
do
their
work
and
what
I
would
see
is
twenty
billion
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money,
I'll
support
any
and
all
motions
for
fundraising
either
with
the
province.
Yes,
they
got
to
kick
in
more
money.
Q
The
feds
have
to
kick
in
money
more
money,
and
you
know
what
we
have
to
have
the
courage
as
council
to
kick
in
more
money
as
well
and
to
date,
I
haven't
seen
that
that
that
support.
So
my
question
to
council
is,
if
you
want
all
this
to
happen,
you'd
better
be
prepared,
because
we
voted
on
all
these
things.
If
you
could
put
this
next
piece
on
that.
A
C
Motion
in
regard
to
the
funding
of
the
young
of
extension
of
the
young
line,
we're
going
to
say
no
money
be
committed
and
in
the
report
staff
states
clearly
that
Metrolinx
is
providing
funding
for
the
current
phase
of
work
correct.
However,
your
motion
says
no
money
should
be
expended.
When
the
report
says
no
money
will
be
no.
N
Q
Q
You're
saying
two
things
than
that:
no
I'm,
not
I,
think
one
thing
mark
my
words:
if,
if
planning
staff
or
TTC
staff
are
working
on
it,
there
are
times
to
be
cholera
consultants
that
they
would
hire
their
car.
That
cost
is
to
be
borne
by
York
Region,
and/or
Metrolinx,
okay,
so
that
not
by
the
city
me,
that's
not
clear
in
the
net
zero
net
so.
C
Q
A
D
I
must
be
that
my
my
questions
are
very
similar
to
councilor
Campbell's,
but
when
you
say
at
no
cost,
are
you
calculating
the
fact
that
you
are
taking
expertise
who
could
be
working
on
other
projects
and
allocating
them
to
it
to
another
project?
Even
though
they're
full
salaries
and
benefits
are
paid
by
a
third
party,
we
will
lose
that
knowledge
base
for
a
period
of
time
while
they
work
on
this
project.
How
are
you.
Q
I'm
sure,
most
all
from
my
knowledge,
most
of
it's
being
used
outside
consultants,
that
the
TTC
is
managing
with
a
York
Region
when
I
viral
its
a
net
cost
zero
net
cost
as
I
understand
it.
And
it's
in
the
report.
It's
fifty
million
dollars
has
been
allocated.
55
I
forget.
The
exact
number
has
been
allocated
to
the
project.
Zero
is
coming
from
the
city
and
we're
affirming
that
and
making
that
very
clear
up
front
that
we
as
council
support
that
direction,
because
it's
not
a
priority
project
for
no.
D
Q
Q
Q
D
Q
Respectfully,
I
don't
think
that
that
is
the
case
every
time
that
I've
been
part
of
this
council
debate
on
what
you're
calling
Shepherd
West,
which
is
between
Yonge
Street
and
I,
guess
Don's
new
station.
The
answer
has
always
come
up
that
it
is
not
in
the
strategic
interest
for
the
next
phase
of
projects
to
be
funded
well,
for
this
council
or
for
the
province
councillor.
A
O
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Oh
there
is
I'm,
assuming
this
doesn't
prick
this
with
a
lot
align
with
the
fact
that
Metrolinx
as
I
believe
given
150
million
dollars
for
relief
line
south
and
50
some-odd
million
for
young
north.
That
you're
saying
it
should
be
just
that
money
that
we
use.
So
do
all
this
work,
not
funds
above
and
beyond
the
come
from
city
coffers,
correct,
okay,
great.
Q
Thank
you,
and-
and
you
know
what
I
see
here-
I
could
use
the
occasion
to
look
to
talk
to
this
this.
This
diagram
that,
and
maybe
it's
my
simple
mind
trying
to
understand.
We
may
not
raise
over
the
next
five
to
10
years,
we're
going
to
have
to
be
pretty
brave
and
saying
to
our
residents.
We
need
that
conversation
on
how
we're
going
to
raise
money.
Q
We
need
to
be
pretty
brave
with
the
province
and
the
province
needs
to
be
brave
with
its
resources
and
say
we
need
to
get
to
that
next
order
of
funding
mobility
in
our
city.
But
what
happens?
The
politics
will
get
very
interesting
when
we
realize
that
you
know
what
20
billion
plots
is
not
coming
and
we're
only
going
to
get
10
billion
for
the
next
10
years
from
all
orders
of
government,
including
ourselves.
A
Q
C
Q
The
ticular
motion
focuses
on
the
capital
works,
obviously,
there's
operating
impacts
and
I
suspect
I
thought
I
would
welcome
that
as
well.
Maybe
that's
one
of
the
criteria
under
this
under
the
bottom
of
the
page
operating
impacts
that
could
also
be
part
of
the
consideration.
I'd.
Welcome
that
as
an
amendment
so.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'll,
just
say
that
I'm
supportive
of
the
report
I
spoke
on
this
extensively
at
executive
committee.
Certainly
for
the
last
six
years,
I've
been
pushing
to
accelerate
the
relief
line,
has
a
huge
impact
on
the
neighborhoods
that
I
represent
and
the
impacts
are
significant.
I,
get
non-stop
complaints
as
I'm
out
and
about
in
the
ward
about
capacity
and
reliability
of
line.
One
the
young
line
people
are
getting
into
their
cars
out
of
frustration,
I
hear
it
all
the
time.
B
I
also
see
it
firsthand,
because
I
ride
the
subway
and
transit
every
day
and
I
am,
as
I
said
it
through
my
questions
very
concerned
about
Yonge
and
Eglinton
York
Mills,
Lawrence,
Yonge
and
Eglinton
very
difficult
to
get
on
the
subway.
Once
you
get
on
you're,
packed
in
like
a
13
and
then
there's
non-stop
reliability
issues
all
the
way
south
to
the
downtown
core,
so
I'm
hearing
for
my
residents
and
I
want
to
articulate
these
concerns
today.
B
But
what
I'm
also
hearing
for
my
residents
is
the
level
of
development
happening
in
the
young
Addington
area
is
not
supported
by
infrastructure
and
when
I
say
infrastructure,
I
mean
recreation,
pools,
libraries,
green
space
parks
and,
most
importantly,
transit.
It
just
isn't
there.
So
if
you
would
like
to
take
a
walk
with
me
around
Yonge
and
Eglinton
red
path,
Broadway
and
you
you'll
see
non-stop
cranes
and
cement
trucks,
non-stop
interference
with
sidewalk
and
curb
lanes
being
used
by
developers.
B
You
just
can't
navigate
that
area
anymore,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
it's
because
there's
1,100
stories
being
proposed
either
under
constructor
being
proposed
in
this
neighborhood
1,100
storeys
in
height,
which
is
about
eight
times
the
height
of
the
CN
Tower.
Also,
as
I
said
in
my
in
my
questions
as
the
population
is
increased
by
34
percent,
whereas
Toronto's
overall
population
has
grown
by
9%,
so
I
encourage
my
colleagues.
If
you
haven't
been
to
Yonge
and
Eglinton
recently
to
get
to
that
area.
B
The
infrastructure
and
community
services
can't
meet
the
demand,
that's
taking
place
there,
it's
simply
out
of
control.
I've
said
it
before,
and
I
will
say
it
again.
It
is
out
of
control
and
I
hope
the
planners
will
consider
not
approving
new
blue
buildings
there
or
the
chief
planner
will
consider
a
moratorium
because
it's
it
really
needs
to
be
addressed
and
it
needs
to
be
addressed
yesterday.
B
I
will
wrap
up
by
just
saying
I
thought
it
was
my
understanding
that
council
had
the
insight
in
2012
and
I
look
at
stuff,
for
maybe
a
head
shake
on
this.
That
council
had
the
insight
in
2012
as
a
condition
to
make
sure
we
prioritize
the
relief
line.
It's
not
not
accurate,
so
I'm,
seeing
heads
shaking
up
and
down
council
directed
in
2012
that
the
relief
line
had
to
be
operational
before
the
young
extension.
Is
that
correct?
B
S
We
all
should
be
so
proud
of
how
far
we've
come
in
the
last
two
or
three
decades.
We
are
undoubtedly
a
world-class
City,
but
there's
one
element
of
our
lives.
Frankly,
that
isn't
world
class
and
that's
transit
in
particular
a
modern
subway
system
that
serves
all
of
the
people
of
the
City
of
Toronto,
rather
than
just
a
few
speaker,
I.
S
S
Regrettably
speaker
the
new
city
tends
to
think
and
implement
tactically
this
line,
rather
than
that
line
Subway's
rather
than
LRT
s
or
or
the
reverse.
This
part
of
Toronto
should
be
served
and
not
that
part
of
Toronto.
That's
regrettable
speaker
in
particular.
If
you
look
at
the
plans
that
are
that
have
been
submitted
to
us
over
the
last
few
years.
You'll
notice
that
they
are
downtown
oriented,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
that
speaker.
They
should
be.
S
We
have
an
extraordinarily
viable
economic
core
to
our
city
and
to
the
GTA,
but
speakers
that
focus
detracts
from
the
ability
to
go
crosstown
in
this
city,
especially
in
the
northern
portion.
It
also
ignores
the
regional
centers
that
had
been
identified
by
the
metropolitan
government,
the
Scarborough
town
centre
and
the
Etobicoke
town
centre
now
I'm
I'm,
not
that
critical
of
is
the
way
in
which
we've
approached
transit
in
the
new
city.
Because
speaker,
we
don't
have
the
funding
from
the
city
itself
and
from
our
two
other
orders
of
government.
S
That
would
allow
us
to
plan
and
implement
strategically,
and
until
we
can
do
that
speaker,
we
will
we
will
in
in
a
jerky
Frankenstein
fashion,
lurch
our
way
forward
into
the
future,
and
that's
not
good
enough
for
the
city
speaker,
it's
not
good
enough
for
us
to
remain
competitive
against
the
other
emerging
strong
cities
of
the
world,
especially
in
the
Far
East
I
support
the
mayor's
attempt
to
create
an
alliance
with
the
mayors
and
chairs
of
the
Greater
Toronto
Area.
That
way,
we
we
reinforce
our
political
strength
and
I.
S
Think
by
doing
that,
should
make
the
reception
that
we
receive
at
Queen's,
Park
and
Ottawa
that
much
more
generous
than
it
has
been
in
the
past
and
speaker.
I
would
argue
that
if
a
GTA
political
alliance
can't
get
the
results
that
we
all
want
and
need,
then
speaker
I
think
that
what
we
should
do
is
what
many
American
cities
have
done
successfully
in
the
past
and
that
is
put
on
the
ballot
a
referendum,
not
just
for
here,
but
for
the
GTA
as
well.
So
we
can
speak
speakers
with
one
voice.
S
A
former
chief
planner
in
the
in
the
old
system
recommended
something
called
the
law
box
approach,
and
basically
that's
the
city
saying
we'll
put
aside
a
third
of
the
money
to
build
out
this
system
over
25
or
30
years,
the
province
and
the
feds
put
up
one
third
as
well.
It
goes
into
a
box,
it's
locked
and
only
transit
projects,
as
envisaged
by
that
subway
system
can
open
the
box
and
have
the
money
taken
out
and
invested.
Thank
bigger.
Those
are
my
thoughts
and
I
sincerely
hope
that
members
of
this
council
giveth
them
serious
consideration.
S
A
F
Well,
I'm,
you
know
I'm
standing
up
wondering
you
know
how
it
is
we
we
want
to
spend
the
millions
of
dollars
that
are
in
front
of
us,
without
even
knowing
whether
or
not
the
provinces
is,
is
in
fact
going
to
pay
the
shot
and
I
hear
motions
coming
out
of
my
colleagues
and
we're
all
kind
of
just
grasping
and
waiting
and
hoping
in
the
meantime,
the
streets
in
Ward
7
are
dirty.
The
the
parks
grass
is
still
are
being
cut.
Our
playgrounds
are
dirty,
I've
got
old
playgrounds
that
are
we're
being
told.
F
We
can't
repair
and
fix
and
maintain
all
of
it,
because
we
don't
have
enough
money,
but
yet
we
find
enough
money
to
be
able
to
venture
into
these
hopes
and
dreams,
hopes
and
dreams
that
that
are
for
one
pocket
of
of
the
megacity
I
wish
that
I
could
stand
up
and
separate
North
York
again
from
the
mega
city.
The
mega
city
has
done
nothing
to
help
North
York
North
Yorkers
has
done
nothing
for
the
North,
York,
taxpayers
and
I
think
my
voice
would
carry
through
Etobicoke
and
Scarborough
as
well.
F
All
we
do
is
pay
for
ventures
for
the
for
the
bottom
end
of
the
city
and
I'm,
sick
and
tired
of
it,
and
instead
of
some
agreeing
with
me,
I
get
the
speaker
shutting
me
up
every
chance.
She
gets
when
I
stand
up
and
try
and
make
these
points
and
I'm,
sick
and
tired
of
that
too.
But
I've
got
five
minutes
to
spend
on
this
issue
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
how
unfair
all
of
this
has
been
to
the
taxpayers
in
the
suburbs.
Every
bit
of
it
from
the
time
and
automation
was
set
up.
F
F
You
point
to
ten
things
that
this
mega
city
has
done
for
any
of
us
in
the
suburbs
and
I'll
shake
your
hand.
So
yeah
we're
we're
this
big,
wonderful
city,
councillor,
Kelly
that
we
should
all
be
proud
of,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
can
just
you
can
tell
by
one
Drive
of
the
car
or
one
walk
the
difference
between
the
downtown
part
of
the
city
and
the
suburbs.
F
You
know
why
that
is
because
they
took
away
our
resources.
We
don't
get
clean.
The
vehicles
that
that
help
maintain
our
our
neck
of
the
woods
has
been
cut,
probably
by
two-thirds
and
given
to
the
downtown
part
of
the
city,
and
here
we're
getting
the
whining
behind
me.
It's
never
enough.
You
want
all
the
public
housing
money.
You
want
all
of
the
you
want
all
of
the
all
of
the
infrastructure
money
you
want.
F
The
rest
of
the
city,
the
workers,
the
unions
that
represent
us
all
of
us,
should
be
banding
together
and
saying
you
need
to
pay
for
all
of
it
counts.
For
my
heaven,
all
of
it
on
eight
cents
on
the
dollar,
we
can't
afford
a
one-third,
one-third,
one-third
anymore,
it's
impossible.
There
is
the
only
option,
that's
in
front
of
us
right
now,
and
instead
of
taking
out
that
that
option,
we
start
pointing
at
each
other.
As
I
do
and
say
this
line
doesn't
belong
here.
F
It
belongs
somewhere
else,
because
this
is
the
only
money
that
we've
got
at
the
end
of
the
day.
We
don't
even
have
enough
votes
in
the
suburbs
to
win
at
the
end
of
day.
In
fact,
we've
increased
the
amount
of
of
sitting
members
next
term
of
office
and
we're
not
going
to
win
any
votes
at
all
for
anything.
Madam
Speaker.
D
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
rise
to
support
the
report.
That's
up
for
us,
although
I
have
deep
concerns
about
it.
I
must
say
that
is
truly
crucial
that
we
move
forward
on
these
transit
projects.
Finch
station
was
open
43
years
ago.
We
should
have
built
up
to
steels
long
ago,
and
certainly
this
plan
includes
it.
I
am
concerned
about
the
downtown
relief
line
route,
those
people
traveling
west,
on
the
bluer
subway
line,
trying
to
get
to
Yonge
and
Bloor
Dundas
College
Wellesley,
Queens,
Park,
st.
Patrick.
A
museum
will
not
get
off
a
paper.
D
They
will
stay
on
the
subway
and
continue
along
I'm
also
concerned
that
we're
talking
about
a
6.8
billion
dollar
downtown
relief
line.
When
and-
and
there
is
an
option
between
down
zoo
station
and
Yonge
and
Shepherd
to
point
about
2.5
billion
dollars,
which
will
take
the
pressure
from
the
southbound
users
of
the
young
line
and
move
them
across
to
the
University
line,
people
working
at
Queens
Park
and
the
insurance
companies
and
the
hospitals,
they
will
be
the
ones
using
the
North
York
relief
line
and
move
across
the
city.
Earlier.
D
There
was
a
little
discussion
about
whether
this
council
has
ever
made
a
statement
on
that
piece
between
down
zoo
station
or
now
is
the
Shepherd
West
station
and
Yonge
and
Shepherd
and
I
should
remind
my
colleagues,
especially
counselor
Mojave,
who
denied
there
was
ever
such
a
motion
on
May.
The
9th
2013
at
at
6:00
p.m.
the
following
motion
carried
through
this
house
that
City
Council
requests
that
the
North
York
really
find
the
unfinished
subways
construction
between
Sheppard,
Avenue
and
Allen,
Road
and
Yonge
and
Shepherd.
D
He
recognizes
a
substantive
project
priority
for
Phase,
two
Metro
leagues
funding
it
carried
24
to
19.
This
council
has
made
a
statement
about
that.
At
the
same
time,
I
worry
when
we're
told
to
allocate
vital
expertise
and
crucial
staff
to
a
transit
project
that
is
not
even
in
our
municipality
fact
that
the
province
or
Metrolinx
is
saying
that
that
those
costs
will
be
covered
mean
that
we
don't
have
access
to
that
expertise
to
work
on
other
transit
projects
with
in
Toronto's
borders.
D
D
Supporting
this,
it
was
all
very
nice,
but
these
were
the
exact
same
political
representatives
who
fought
against
Road
toll
as
a
viable
way
to
fund
transit
expansion
on
a
regional
basis
when
I
asked
them.
How
will
how
we
going
to
pay
for
for
all
this?
He
said
well,
we'll
keep
asking
the
provincial
and
federal
government
a
model
that
has
not
worked
in
the
last
30
years.
D
That's
what
the
leadership
of
of
York
came
to
tell
us
that
Executive,
Committee
and
I
must
say
was
most
disheartening
because
they're
there,
when,
when
we're
covering
the
bill,
but
when
it's
their
turn
to
pay
I'm
afraid
we
just
don't
don't
see
it.
That
being
said,
I
should
thank
staff
for
their
hard
work
on
this
initiative.
D
There's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
when
it
comes
to
ridership
trends,
how
people
get
off
the
subway
when
they
get
on
the
subway
and
I
look
forward
to
follow-up
reports
that
includes
several
options
for
taking
relief
off
the
young
line
and
I
thank
staff
for
their
work
and
I.
Thank
this
mayor
for
moving
the
transit
agenda
forward.
C
I
I
I
I
I
think
we
need
a
relief
line
in
the
West
End
of
the
city
to
take
some
of
the
load
off
the
east-west
corridor
again
and
I
believe
we
need
the
Sheppard
subway
completed
from
the
Allen
Road
right
out
to
the
Scarborough
town
centre,
and
that
would
give
us
transportation
network
through
the
City
of
Toronto.
That
would
actually
work
and
bring
people
into
the
city
and
GO
Transit
is
there
to
bring
people
from
other
areas
in
and
I?
I
It's
almost
10
million,
it's
more
than
ten
million
dollars
a
year
that
Toronto
taxpayers
are
paying
to
have
riders
from
905
on
the
transit
system
that
same
ten
million
dollars.
That
Toronto
is
paying
could
be
used
to
fund
over
a
hundred
million
dollars
for
the
capital
improvements
and
if
it
was
shared
funding
in
all
three
levels:
you're
talking
about
300
million
dollars
worth
of
improvements
to
the
system
or
expansions,
and
that
doesn't
count
the
riders
that
are
going
to
get
on
the
line
and
get
on
the
system
from
New
York,
subway
extension
and
others.
I
We
definitely
need
to
see,
along
with
a
comprehensive
plan
on
the
Greater
Toronto
Area,
for
transit
networks
that
spread
throughout
our
region.
A
shared
funding
model
where
all
the
municipal
governments
are
paying
their
fair
share
and
the
provincial
federal
government's
are
also
doing
that.
So
with
the
issue.
I
I
The
leaders
of
the
City
of
Toronto,
which
is
what
all
of
we
are
collectively
we're
the
leaders
of
the
City
of
Toronto,
have
to
make
that
collective
decision
of
what's
best
we're
not
perfect,
but
I'll
tell
you.
We
do
a
pretty
good
job
of
making
this
a
pretty
good,
City
and
I'm
supportive
of
this
initiative
to
continue
doing
that.
Thank.
A
K
However,
it
concerns
me
that
if
we
say
no,
we
are
not
going
to
participate
in
the
planning
of
the
Yonge
subway
extension
and
York
Region
goes
ahead
and
go
ahead
faster.
Then
we
will
find
ourselves
in
a
position
where
we
aren't
ready
to
actually
negotiate
and
to
come
to
terms
with
or
to
come
to
an
agreement
about
the
terms
and
conditions
on
this
extension.
K
One
of
the
things
that
I
asked
about
both
at
committee
and
here
or
the
operating
cost
I
think
every
time
we
have
any
subway
report.
We
have
to
talk
about
the
operating
costs.
We
have
committed
to
pay
the
Eglinton
crosstown
LRT,
one
hundred
percent
of
the
operating
cost.
That's
40
million
dollars
all
of
the
LRT
s.
We've
committed
to
pay
the
operating
costs.
We
don't
know
what
those
operating
costs
will
be.
The
t
y
SS
that
e
the
toronto
york
subway
extension.
It's
going
to
cost
us
thirty
million
dollars
in
operating
costs.
Annually.
K
K
So
here
we
are
again
today
and
it
feels
very
much
like
when
we
approved
the
Toronto
York
Medina,
subway
extension,
and
at
that
time
we
felt
a
lot
of
pressure
to
approve
that
because
York
Region
was
receiving
funding
as
well,
and
the
provincial
government
wanted
it,
and
so
here
we
are
again
with
the
extension
of
the
young
line.
The
provincial
government
wants
it
and
we're
being
asked
to
participate.
K
Other
councillors
have
said
very
clearly.
We
are
subsidizing
the
cost
of
all
of
the
York
Region
riders
that
go
on
the
Spadina
lines,
and
if
we
don't
get
a
better
deal
on
this
line,
then
we
will
be
doing
the
same
thing
on
the
extension
of
the
young
line,
and
so
that
is
the
purpose
of
my
motion.
We
cannot
enter
into
another
arrangement
for
the
extension
of
the
young
line
if
there
is
not
a
commitment
to
pay
the
operating
cost,
so
I
am
I,
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
run
our
system.
K
We've
made
all
of
these
commitments
to
advance
all
of
these
various
lines.
The
relief
line,
the
young
line,
count
an
you,
don't
have
an
ongoing
operating
funding
agreement
with
the
provincial
government,
it's
time
for
them
to
get
real
and
give
a
commitment
on
the
operating
cost
and
all
this
regional
system.
L
Please,
and
my
motion
is
fairly
straightforward
by
Jose
is
going
to
help
clarify
some
of
the
questions
that
came
out
from
members
of
council
and
I
also
believe
that
actually
is
completely
in
line
with
what
staff
has
was
was
telling
us,
and
also
just
to
convey
2,000
are
ongoing
thanks
and
gratitude
for
the
phenomenal
body
of
work
that
they
have
have
been
working
on
over
the
past
few
years,
trying
to
make
sure
that
all
the
different
transit
priorities
are
going
to
be
placed
before
us.
We
have
asked
much
of
them.
We
have.
L
We
have
certainly
placed
before
them
some
very
challenging
files,
some
very
challenging
criteria
and
every
single
time
they've
come
back
and
said
this
is
what
you've
asked
for.
This
is
what
we're
going
to
deliver.
So
really,
what
I
want
to
do
is
just
thank
them
one
more
time
and
do
it
in
a
public
fashion
and
to
make
sure
that
they
are
aware
that
council
is
very
grateful
for
their
ongoing
dedication,
their
hard
work
and
always
the
high
level
professionalism
that
they
deliver.
That
work
when
they're
asked
of
it
Thank
You.
M
It
really
are
two
different
things.
The
political
oversight
sight
is
what
were
sworn
to
do
and
to
me
it's
fundamentally
why
we
have
a
non-party
council
chamber,
it's
sort
of
the
municipal
framework
of
Ontario
and
and
I
think
it's
why
our
residents
like
it,
because
what
they,
what
they
want
from
us,
what
they
expect
about
is
political
oversight
and
what's
the
definition
of
that,
the
only
place
I
can
find
it.
This
is
the
definition
of
political
oversight
that
is
provided
to
congressmen
in
the
United
States.
We
can
only
hope,
they're
following
this
now.
M
It's
that
you
have
the
role
of
the
review
and
the
monitoring
and
the
supervision
of
your
agencies,
your
programs,
your
activities
and
your
policy
implementation
you're
at
you
exercise
your
power
largely
through
these
committee
systems,
we're
in
a
committee.
Now
we
call
this
one
council
and
we're
supposed
to
be
providing
oversight,
we're
supposed
to
be
making
fact-based
decisions.
We're
supposed
to
review
evidence,
monitor
the
actions
of
staff
took
to
get
to
that
evidence.
M
M
That's
non
partisan,
but
if
we're
making
the
decision
today,
based
on
a
downtown
always
gets
a
better
deal
than
uptown
or
everyone
hates
the
suburbs,
and
oh,
this
isn't
fair
well,
in
fact,
we
counter
violent
balance
that,
for
the
first
two
years
of
this
term
of
office,
we
had
an
Economic
Development.
Committee
was
not
one
member
of
council
from
the
central
business
district,
so
I
guess
we
counterbalance
any
any
problem
with
the
fact
that
two-thirds
of
the
population
lives
downtown
by
making
all
suburban
run
the
Economic
Development
Committee.
M
They
did
an
okay
job
of
it
for
over
two
years,
but
they
had
to
do
that
by
providing
oversight
over
the
function
of
that
staff
and
making
sure
it
did
in
fact
serve
the
central
business
district.
Because
that's
what
we're
all
supposed
to
do
here
and
that's
how
we
ought
to
be
looking
at
our
transit
planning?
How
will
it
serve
whole
roof?
A
counselor
shiner,
despite
saying
we're
all
going
to
do
whatever
our
particular
residents
say
what
he
did
outline
was
a
citywide
system.
M
That
in
fact
needs
all
of
the
buses
it
needed
before
and
then
some
because
the
stops
are
too
far
apart
for
suburban
topography
and
so
you've
got
to
actually
run
more
buses
with
your
new
giant
rail
system
and
you've
actually
created
yourself
far
more
operating
burden.
That's
why
you
look
to
rail
systems
that
are
now
rail,
because
rail
is
what
builds
more
ridership
in
soon
as
people
move
from
a
bus
to
rail
they're
committed,
and
they
stop
looking
at
their
watch,
I'm
on
a
rail
system.
Now
I
will
get
there.
M
It's
a
psychological
fact
of
transit
planning
science
and
that's
why
we
look
at
those
systems
when
we
get
further
out
it's.
Why
we'll
probably
end
up
there
on
the
dawn,
Mills
line,
I
hope
that
the
city
manager
takes
to
heart.
The
recommendation
says
considered,
calling
it
a
subway
line,
but
don't
take
that
name
now,
don't
dictate
for
political
purposes.
M
What
something
should
be
this
early
in
the
study,
the
consideration
to
the
city
manager,
but
I
hope
he
doesn't
follow
that
consideration
through
until
due
course
do
research
and
the
evidence
suggests
that
it
should
be
labeled
up.
Those
are
my
comments,
madam
mass
beaker,
and
the
only
other
one
I
would
make.
Is
that
I
heartily
support
councilor
Davis's
motion?
Why
wouldn't
we
want
the
cost-sharing
agreement.
C
Thank
you.
Madam
Speaker
I
have
two
motions:
the
first
that
City
Council
reaffirm
the
position
that
it
would
not
agree
to
an
extension
of
the
younger
subway
line
until
s.
Construction
of
the
south
relief
line,
including
required
improvements
to
the
young
blur
station,
has
been
fully
funded,
with
a
firm
scheduled
for
completion.
If
both
projects
proceed
concurrently,
the
relief
line
must
be
an
operation
prior
to
the
opening
of
the
young
north
extension,
and
the
second
one
is
to
delete
recommendation
3
from
the
executive
committee
report
to
deal
deal
with.
Those
in
reverse
order.
C
Recommendation
3,
I
believe,
is
just
busywork
that
you
know,
that
is
the
subway
that
is
I,
think
one
councilor
is
very
much
in
favor
of
it
and
it
makes
no
sense
whatsoever
I
suppose
if
we
did
the
cost-benefit
analysis,
that
might
put
an
end
to
discussing
it
once
and
for
all,
but
we
really
have
enough
other
things
to
do
without
having
staff
too
busy
work
on
the
the
main
motion,
which
is
the
timing.
I
certainly
have
no
problem
with
extending
the
North's
young
line.
C
C
Currently,
by
the
time
it
gets
to
Sheppard
Avenue
and
with
each
new
condo
that
goes
up
and
there's
always
several
under
construction.
It
gets
more
and
more
congested.
So
it's
great
that
we
have
people
using
public
transit,
but
we
are
already
over
capacity
and
we
simply
I
think
everyone
agrees
cannot
add
any
more
people,
so
we
have
the
relief
line
done.
I.
Don't
think
anyone
disagrees
with
that
I.
Don't
think
the
mayor
disagrees
with
it,
I,
don't
think
the
staff
disagrees
with
it.
I
think
it's
just
reaffirming
what
we've
said
before,
but
I
didn't
see.
C
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
do
I,
do
not
have
any
motions,
but
I
do
ask
members
of
council
to
support
the
recommendations
of
the
executive
committee
as
they
appear.
You
know
we.
We
sat
there
at
that
committee
and
we
listened
to
the
mayor's
further
north
come
down
and
and
impress
upon
us
the
importance
of
working
together.
C
Oh
then
he's
up
there.
The
the
ship
for
amalgamation
has
sailed,
counselor
Emily
D
we're
never
going
to
get
that
one
back.
You
know
we
talk
about
a
balanced
transportation
system,
but
part
of
that
balance
is
a
pragmatic
kind
of
recognition
that,
in
fact,
cars
are
also
part
of
that
balanced
transportation
system
we're
not
ever
going
to
get
rid
of
cars.
It's
just
that
simple
so
that
no
matter
what
we
do
and
we
try
to
focus
on
improving
our
transit
system
as
we
should.
C
C
So
where
am
I
going
to
go
with
this
I
guess?
Let
me
finish
off
by
saying
that
other
levels
of
government
have
financial
pressures
and
where
they
find
their
money
to
give
to
us.
Is
they
go
through
debt?
Absolutely
they're
there,
a
cumulative
debt
goes
up
annually,
not
ours,
though
ours
is
relatively
stable.
So
when
we
get
all
sorts
of
money
from
the
federal
government
or
all
sorts
of
money
from
the
provincial
government
doesn't
come
from
under
our
operating
budget.
Nor
does
it
come
from
there.
C
Problems
with
respect
to
housing
and
finding
monies
to
deal
with
our
housing
problems,
we
will
in
fact
have
the
other
levels
of
government
come
to
the
table
to
help
us,
but
we
need
to
finance
a
huge
part
of
it
ourselves,
which
means
we
somehow
to
have.
We
have
to
find
ways
of
increasing
taxes.
I
know
some
of
the
people
around
this
table
fully
believe
that
we
have
to
increase
our
property
taxes
and,
yes,
we
do
going
forward.
But
those
are
my
comments.
O
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
do
have
a
motion
or
it's
two
parts
to
emotion.
One
is
confirming
that
the
expansion
of
young
blur
interchange
station
is
a
party
project
for
the
city
and
a
candidate
for
provincial
federal
funding.
The
other
speaks
to
reporting
back
on
the
status
of
that
project
to
both
the
TTC
and
Executive
Committee.
The
reason
I
start
with
this
element
is
that,
for
the
better
part
of
a
day
and
probably
a
hundred
years,
it
sounds
like
based
on
the
length
of
the
time
that
the
relief
line
debate
has
gone
on.
O
We've
identified
that
the
the
looming
challenge
the
bottleneck
is
Yonge
and
Bloor
is
passing
people
through
that
station,
and
so
our
staff
have
told
us
at
a
very
rough
estimate
that
we
could
address
that
bottleneck
for
a
billion
dollars
big-ticket,
but
one
that
we've
never
pushed
now.
We've
never
prioritized.
O
At
the
same
time,
we've
got
a
potentially
a
seven
billion
dollar
option
of
the
relief
line
which
may
provide
other
benefits
to
experience
with
its
council
has
certainly
thrown
its
weight
behind,
and
so,
while
I
know
that
expanding
an
existing
station
is
not
good
for
newsletters
or
speeches.
The
fundamental
issue
right
now
is
that
whether
we
extend
young
north
or
build
a
relief
line
or
do
all
these
things,
we
probably
do
every
one
of
these
projects.
O
This
pinch
point
has
to
be
addressed
and
we've
got
to
be
more
assertive
and
aggressive
about
addressing
this
issue,
both
of
the
TTC
and
City
Council
and
I.
Think
making
this
statement
begins
to
go
a
long
way
in
addressing
that
I
think
and
while
I
will
support
the
report
in
front
of
us.
I
think
this
is
work
that
has
to
be
done.
There
are
many
other
benefits
to
the
relief
line.
O
I
do
think
we
have
to
start
being
a
little
more
honest,
though,
of
what
the
benefits
for
the
relief
line
south
are
for
the
person
and
councillor
Carmichael
grab
mat
lows:
Robinson
diner
fill
Ian's
Ward,
who
are
left
waiting
at
Lawrence
or
York
Mills
or
Shepherd,
or
Eglinton
can't
get
on
that
train
going
south
in
the
morning.
Relief
line
south
that
we're
talking
about
today
in
debating
and
hoping
to
get
funding
for,
does
not
allow
you
to
get
on
that
train.
O
You
are
still
faced
with
the
same
shoo,
even
if
the
relief
line
is
built,
and
so
that
is
why
it's
so
critical
that
the
work
we're
doing
right
now
continues
to
happen.
That's
adding
automatic
train
control,
new
subway
cars
and,
more
fundamentally
than
that,
a
more
transformative
part
is
improving
the
young
Bloor
interchange,
that's
how
we
address
this
issue
for
those
people
driving
traveling
south,
because
right
now
what
we
passed
today
will
not
let
that
person
get
on
at
Lawrence
Station
any
any
sooner
than
they
are
now,
even
with
those
really
fun.
O
So
it's
fully
built
out
and
so
I
think
we
have
to
be
a
bit
more
genuine
and
honest
about
what
those
benefits
are
and
ultimately
what
the
benefit
is
is
that
you
have
to
start
somewhere,
and
so
this
is
where
the
highest
ridership
would
be.
This
is
where
you
would
start
and
whether
it's
light
rail
north
of
pace
to
Shepherd.
O
Whether
it's
subways
obviously
are
stop
we're
going
to
report
back
on
that
without
the
relief
line
as
a
starting
spur
of
this,
you
can't
build
on
and
you
can't
expand
that
network,
and
so
that
has
to
happen.
It
has
to
be
built,
but
we
can't
forget
what
the
less
sexy,
but
I
would
argue.
Equally
important
project
is
around
fixing
some
of
our
current
inner
current
infrastructure
notice,
notably
the
the
point
at
Yonge
and
Bloor,
where
we
just
have
to
be
able
to
get
more
people
through.
So
we
don't
do
that.
O
These
mega
projects
will
take
a
long
time,
even
with
full
alignment
between
all
levels
of
government,
even
with
big
novelty
checks
being
presented
to
us,
which
I'm
sure
they
will
be
at
some
point.
We
have
to
do
this
work
and
really
it
should
be
done,
and
we
sometimes
they
will
don't
expand
north,
don't
expand
young
north
and
let's
do
the
relief
line.
O
I
would
add
that
really
the
third
leg
of
the
stool
is
doing
this
work
at
young
blurred-out,
that
capacity
so
that
residents
and
constituents
and
riders
in
councillor,
mallow
and
Carmical,
Greb
and
and
Robinson's
Ward
actually
can
get
on
that
train
and
don't
have
to
wait
for
three
trains
and
and
know
that
what
we
passed
today
well,
the
first
good
step
is
only
one
small
step
to
make
sure
that
we
just
add
the
capacity
that
we
need
and
avoid.
The
looming
crisis
really
is
to
win
what
line.
O
O
The
TTC
has
begun
work
like
the
relief
line.
It's
a
zero
percent
design
right
part
of
that
I
think
is
because
this
council
has
never
really
made
it
a
priority.
Either
funding
lies,
or
even
in
kind
of
decorative
statements
or
saying
you
know,
get
on
with
work
and
accelerate
work
on
young
Bloor.
But
yes,
work
has
been
done
and
what
they're
doing
right
now
is
amalgamating
all
those
studies
and
it's
the
work
that
have
been
done
to
give
it
a
bit
more
focus
but
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
reinforce
that.
So.
K
I
do
understand
the
sentiment,
but
if
you
expand
the
station
you
will
have
more
people
able
to
wait
at
the
station.
But
if
you
don't
have
any
additional
capacity
on
the
line,
how
will
that
do
anything
other
than
they've
got?
It
stops
the
bottleneck
up
there
and
you
have
another
bottleneck,
just
bigger
down
at
Yonge
and
Bloor.
So.
O
One
of
the
greatest
things
that
causes
delays
on
any
subway
line,
but
especially
on
line
one.
It's
a
time
people
take
to
get
on
and
off
subways
and
because
young
blur
is
so
congested
and
almost
you
know
borderline
at
times,
not
safe,
then
the
the
dwell
time
of
trains
is
much
longer
okay,
so
we
can't
get
slow
trains
through
and
with
with
automatic
train
control
coming.
The
whole
point
of
automatic
train
control
is
that
we
can
add
trains
can
travel
faster
and
get
out
of
stations
and
quicker.
P
O
K
O
Not
the
intent,
yes,
I
think
their
companion
pieces
and
what
we
know
and
councilman
have
exposed
emotions
that
affect,
but
City,
Planning
and
TTC
and
see
staff
are
already
doing
the
work
that
will
have
all
these
projects
that
we
throw
at
them
kind
of
a
that's
I,
already
we're
pulling
them
back
and
prioritize
them.
Because
that's
the
real,
difficult
question
answer
right.
K
H
You
very
much
madam
Speaker
and
I'm,
not
quite
so
fussed
about
prioritization,
and
maybe
that's
because
I've
been
here
rather
a
long
time,
I'd
like
to
go
back
and
a
you,
madam
Speaker
were
here
and
a
couple
of
other
counts
or
Kelly
and
councillor
shiner
probably
has
them
in
among
a
few
of
us
we're
here
when
we
were
suddenly
announced
when
Mayor
Laughlin
was
here
that
Queen's
Park
had
decided
that
we
were
going
to
build
the
subway
to
Vaughan,
it
wasn't
in
any
of
our
plans.
It
wasn't
on
any
of
our
map.
H
It
was
not
in
any
of
our
ideas,
but
the
GTA
asked,
and
we
were
told
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
before
us,
and
one
of
the
things
I've
learned
is
that
when
you're
doing
at
when
you're
spending
public
money,
you
really
need
to
have
a
plan
before
you
spend
it
in
private
industry.
You
just
need
the
money,
and
then
you
can
figure
out
what
planning.
But
here
we
need
to
have
a
plan
that
is
shovel
ready.
How
many
times
have
the
federal
government
popped
up
with
something
that
they
said?
H
We
also
know
that
is
not
possible
to
put
any
more
people
onto
the
onto
the
young
line
until
we
have
figured
out
the
release
line
just
not
possible,
but
we
also
know
that
it's
terribly
important
and
the
chair
of
the
TDC
has
brought
something
else
forward
and-
and
we
would
make
arguments
and
many
of
us
have
made
arguments
that
we
need
to
have
the
waterfront
resets
in
place,
and
so
on.
You
know
each
one
of
these
things
is
just
a
piece
in
a
master
plan.
H
It
seems
to
me
that
we
have
to
get
on
with
the
planning,
because
that's
the
stage
that
we're
on-
and
we
are
spending
way
too
much
time,
in
my
view,
figuring
out
how
the
next
council
or
the
council
after
that
or
even
the
council
after
that,
are
going
to
be
able
to
receive
money
either
from
the
federal
government
or
manna
from
heaven
or
who
knows
how?
But
at
least
if
we
have
a
plan
for
to
hand
over
to
them,
which
is
something
that
we
I
take
some
responsibility.
H
We
have
never
been
able
to
hand
over
to
this
council.
We
should
have
a
plan
by
now.
We
should
have
had
a
plan
at
the
end
of
their
last
ins
term.
We
should
have
a
plan
at
the
end
of
mirabilis
term.
Mary
Miller
did
have
a
plan
actually
and
as
we
know,
it
got
shunted
around
and
pushed
around
and
who
knows
what?
Because
it
got
politicized.
But
what
we
need
to
be
able
to
do
is
not
say
this.
One
is
over
that
one,
because
in
some
cases
maybe
it's
development
money.
H
Maybe
who
knows
things
will
come
and
that's
been
my
experience.
Things
will
come,
but
when
things
come,
we
better
have
a
shovel
ready,
because
otherwise
I
will
be
starting
all
over
again.
So
to
me,
I'm
not
so
worried,
I
agree
with
with
councillor
Fillion
that
the
elephant
in
the
room
is
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
put
more
people
on
too
young.
While
we
build
out
to
two
York
until
we
have
the
release
line.
So
I
think
that's
a
very
good
idea.
H
I
also
agree
that
this
lift
is
a
terrific
list
that
said
counselor
may
have
it
have
put
together,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
you
can
say
that
one
is
should
be
done
first
and
another
one
should
be
done.
Second,
my
experience
over
all
of
these
years
is
that
things
will
come
and
we
will
be
able
to
manage
with
all
of
these
priorities.
I
think,
let's
get
it
all
wrapped
down
in
planning.
Thank
you.
Thank
You.
R
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
will
be
supporting.
Certainly
the
recommendations
from
the
executive
committee
and
a
number
of
the
motions
I
will
not
be
supporting
the
motion
put
forward
by
councillor
Motlow
in
terms
of
deleting
Council
authorizing
and
directing
staff
to
move
forward
on
the
Yonge
subway
extension
up
into
the
905
belt.
I
think
it's
a
very
serious
mistake,
as
some
of
my
colleagues
have
said,
to
look
at
this
as
a
zero-sum
game,
where
one
councilor
says,
because
it's
good
for
my
residents
in
one
Ward
I,
want
to
say
this
project
should
go
forward.
R
I
like
this
subway,
but
I,
don't
like
that
subway,
because
this
subway
gets
me
reelected.
This
subway
makes
me
look
good.
This
subway
helps
my
residents.
Instead,
we
should
cancel
the
subway
that's
to
the
north.
That
will
help
other
people
get
elected.
We
should
do
all
of
the
above
I
support
the
downtown
relief
line
and
I'm
supporting
the
recommendations
in
this
report
for
early
fine
at
0%
bill
designed,
0%
designed
and
in
this
report
contains
recommendations
to
increase
the
budget
of
the
downtown
relief
line
by
a
hundred
and
fifty
million
dollars.
R
We
have
to
make
sure
that
every
corner
of
the
city
gets
its
fair
share
of
transit
and
I
agree
with
my
Downtown
colleagues
when
they
complain
to
me
one
hand.
Sometimes
they
say
there's
not
enough
people
in
Scarborough
to
build
a
subway,
but
the
next
day
they
tell
me
my
people
can't
get
on
the
subway,
because
there's
too
many
Scarborough
residents
on
the
subway
and
so
I've
Cape
and
Dawn
lands
and
Chester.
My
residents
can't
get
on
the
subway.
It's
packed
like
sardines
of
Scarborough
Zen's
from
the
East
End,
the
city.
R
We
actually
want
Scarborough
residents
to
get
off
at
paper
car
la
station
and
take
a
downtown
relief
line.
We
want
you
Scarborough
residents
to
get
off
the
subway
before
you
get
to
Yonge
and
Bloor
before
you
get
to
Chester,
so
that
our
downtown
residents,
it's
a
great
life
that
they
have
can
get
on
the
subway.
That
is
why
I'm
supporting
the
downtown
relief
line,
because
I
think
it's
a
good
7
billion
dollar
investment
I
believe
the
young
extension
is
a
good
many
billion
dollar
investment.
R
I
believe
the
smart
track
system
is
a
very
good
investment,
I
believe
the
LRT
systems,
the
Scarborough
East,
the
East
Bay
front,
the
Finch
they're,
all
good
investments,
I
support,
all
of
the
expansions
of
our
bus
garages
and
our
bus
leads
because
they
help
every
single
corner
of
the
city.
So
those
of
you
who
want
to
play
a
zero-sum
game
and
want
to
support
this
motion
number
one
to
say
that
this
subway
should
move
forward,
but
that
one
shouldn't,
because
those
people
don't
vote
for
me-
are
completely
wrong.
It's
a
zero-sum
game.
R
R
For
the
first
time
we
had
905
felt
mayors
and
very
very
influential,
well
respected
people
saying
that
they
were
going
to
help
the
city
of
toronto
that
we
were
going
to
be
in
this
together.
They
didn't
get
money,
we
didn't
get
money.
Why
don't
we
work
together
and
get
both
minds?
I
think
to
pick
one
line,
and
not
the
other
line
is
a
mistake.
I
think
that
we
do
have
to
decide
how
to
allocate
the
four
to
five
billion
dollars.
R
That
we
know
is
on
the
table
from
the
federal
government
four
to
five
billion
dollars
on
top
of
the
construction.
That's
going
on
on
the
Eglinton
crosstown
right
now,
that's
in
addition
to
the
Union
Airport
Express,
that's
in
addition
to
everything
else.
For
that
we're
doing
in
the
study
city.
These
are
amazing
things.
This
is
actually
a
time
of
growth
and
expansion,
but
we
are
fighting
like
cats
and
dogs.
R
Sometimes
because
there
was
a
20-year
absence
of
investment
and
now
that
the
ball
is
getting
rolling,
some
people
will
point
to
this
protein
say
that's
the
most
important
to
me.
The
answer
is,
we
should
all
be
working
together
to
support
Scarborough,
to
support
a
Toba
code
to
support
downtown
to
support
North
York
and
make
this
one
city.
It
is
about
time
we
created
one
city,
self-esteem,
a
veneer.
Thank.
A
C
Thank
You
speaker
I,
just
rise
in
support
of
the
executive
committee's
recommendations
on
this
and
I
want
to
take
a
moment
to
remind
councillors
of
two
very
important
piece
of
information.
The
young
subway
extension
is
not
just
about
them
as
we'd
like
to
characterize
it
in
our
discussions
today,
I'll
remind
folks
that
there
is
a
gap
between
Finch
and
Steel's
and
presumably
a
steel
station
that
will
benefit
the
City
of
Toronto.
C
So
it
is
important
for
us
to
be
participants
in
this
process
and
to
make
some
sort
of
a
contribution,
even
if
that
is
planning
at
this
stage.
This
subway
line
will
ultimately
benefit
this
city.
So
taking
a
motion
here
to
stop
doing
work
on
that
or
to
abandon
that
I
think
is
a
poor
choice.
The
second
important
point
and
I
will
look
to
the
City
of
Toronto
act
is
that
it
reminds
us
that
councillors
are
not
diplomats
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is.
It
is
not
necessarily
our
rule
to
deal
with
intergovernmental
relations.
C
That
is
the
role
of
the
head
of
Council,
and
that
is
the
role
of
city
staff
and
the
work
that
they
do
in
dealing
with.
Other
municipalities
which
are
adjacent
to
us
and
other
orders
of
government,
which
includes
the
province
and
whatever
work
has
done,
has
been
done
to
strategically
align
our
goals
and
strategically
approach
funding
shouldn't
be
undone.
On
this
council
floor,
we
have
enough
tasks
of
councillors
to
stay
focused
on.
C
We
should
be
cognizant
of
those
relationships,
but
we
shouldn't
be
pretending
to
go
and
change
them
now
at
this
stage
in
the
game
that
work
has
passed.
These
recommendations
are
before
us
and
I
employee
to
look
at
them
very,
very
carefully
and
consider
that
you're
playing
with
fire
when
you
start
to
undermine
them.
Please
notice
the
language
in
these
motions
and
and
vote
accordingly.
Thank
you.
C
L
L
I
think
we
got
their
attention
from
that
particular
Carla
and
Girard
presser
and
intervention
and
came-
and
they
said,
oh
well,
we
better
get
together
on
this.
We
that
our
main
project
is
the
young
extension.
We
understand
your
main
project
is
the
relief
line.
How
can
we
help
you?
How
can
we
work
together?
How
can
we
jointly
make
both
of
these
a
reality
and
I'm
very
glad,
because
if
somebody
just
said
it's
very
powerful
actually
to
have
this
large
alliance
of
our
city
government
and
the
regional
governments
around
transit
will
support
a
number
of
motions?
L
Yes,
we
need
to
keep
the
TTC
in
the
driver's
seat
in
the
city
in
the
driver's
seat,
but
let's
recognize
the
importance,
it's
very
historic
that
that
happened
and
that
we're
not
fighting
over
these
dollars.
We're
saying
we
all
need
these
dollars
to
make
a
better
transit
system
in
the
city,
so
we
can't
have
one
corridor
without
the
other
and
this
morning
again
at
a
station
urging
commuters
to
please
get
in
touch
with
the
Minister
of
Transportation.
To
make
this
happen.
L
L
There
are
eight
ten
twelve
storey
buildings
on
that
street
compared
to
one
one
and
a
half
stories
on
pace.
So
when
we
really
dug
down,
we
realized
that
that
was
great
to
take
a
second
look
for
economic
development
reasons,
for
transit
corridor
reasons
and
for
our
own
city
planning
reasons.
We
said
that
the
tea
path
would
be
delayed,
it
would
be
delayed.
It
wasn't
I,
just
briefly
want
to
talk
about
money.
Today,
we're
approving
one
hundred
50
million
dollars
to
study
the
relief
line,
move
it
forward.
F
You,
madam
Speaker
I
rise
in
support
of
the
exact
recommendations.
I
do
so
with
caution.
I
agree
with
my
friend
councillor
Fletcher
and
councillor
de
bar
maker
and
their
speeches
that
we
shouldn't
be
fighting
one
other
for
relief
in
our
own
communities,
but
I
can
tell
you
my
comedian.
Humber
Bay
shores
are
at
a
tipping
point.
It's
beyond
the
tipping
point.
Now
we
have
development
down
there.
That
happened
with
this
was
planned
in
the
80s
and
nothing
been
done.
F
Our
city
managers
recognize
that
my
deputy
city
manager,
eken
I,
that
the
mayor
has
been
out
there.
Many
he
recognized
it,
but
we
need
council
service.
We
need
relief
out
there.
We
have
the
waterfront
reset
coming
down,
we'll
be
watching
that
very
closely,
but
this
is
low-hanging
fruit
for
transferred.
For
me,
Park
on
Lakeshore,
going
to
be
curbed.
I've
said
this
many
times
from
Park
on
Lakeshore
to
the
current
humper
loop.
It
would
run
right
through
town
for
two
sets
word
it's
already
on
a
dedicated
track
and
gets
up
the
st.
F
Joe's
hospital
that
it
has
to
travel
through
councillor
perks,
Ward
and
we
get
behind
Exhibition
Place.
There's
a
dedicated
run
going
out
the
other
way,
so
that's
closing
the
gap
that
is
low-hanging
fruit
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
happen.
The
planet
happened
in
the
80s.
For
this
we
didn't
know
this
was
happening.
I
don't
agree
with
that.
The
OMB
has
a
lot
to
do
with
a
park
on
Lakeshore.
We
never
viewed
their
plan.
We
lost
at
the
board
and
now
the
big
unknown
is
a
20
cent,
a
27
acre
site.
Mr.
F
F
Don't
the
waterfront
reset
it's
imperative
that
we
start
moving
that
project
forward
and
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
expressed
buses
I
had
to
fight
with
the
TTC,
either
politically
get
their
decision
overturned
and
my
people
are
paying
double
the
fare
to
come
downtown
every
morning,
and
so
does
councillor
steps
paying
double
the
fare,
unexpressed
pus
to
come
down,
because
we
have
not
planned
for
that.
So
it's
beyond
a
tipping
point
and
I'm
really
anxious
to
see
this
comeback.
I
know
the
deputy
mayor
or
deputy
city
manager.
Mr.
Livi's
done
a
lot
of
work
on
this.
F
J
You
very
much
madam
Speaker,
and
as
common
as
it
is
that
all
follow
councillor
Grimes
and
speak
in
favour
of
of
what
he
just
said.
I
wanted
to
just
point
out
a
couple
of
things.
I
know:
shindig
span,
ssin
of
an
existing
of
a
system,
that's
already
taxed
on
the
online
without
having
in
place
the
downtown
relief
line.
J
Let's
undertake
a
new
process,
there
would
already
be
transit
lines
built
in
the
city
if
we,
if
we
I,
didn't
make
that
dangerous
turn
one
of
those
lines
that
would
likely
be
well
ahead
of
in
the
planning
stages.
Now
is
the
waterfront
West
LRT,
the
one
that
councilor
Grimes
spoke
so
positively
on.
That
is
one
of
the
lines
that
I
think
as
a
city
we
can
all
agree
is
an
important
piece
of
the
network.
It
not
only
benefits
those
that
live
within
the
jurisdiction
of
a
single
stop.
J
J
Now,
one
major
thing
that
that
I
think
is
lost
in
some
of
this
discussion
is
that
that
density,
that
development
came
before
the
the
transit
plan
was
put
in
place,
and
that's
a
mistake
that
we
shouldn't.
We
shouldn't
let
happen
again
and
fortunately
we're
in
the
position
now
to
to
to
take
careful
steps
to
plan
the
transition
to
try
to
get
it
built
before
the
density
comes.
One
thing
that
you
need
to
do.
If
we're
going
to
accomplish
that,
you
need
to
fund
it,
and
this
council
needs
to
go
and
revisit
some
of
the
decisions.
J
Some
of
the
recommendations
we
made
to
the
provincial
government
and
not
only
ask
for
their
share
and
I,
applaud
the
mayor
for
the
efforts
that
he's
making
to
do
that,
and
the
activist
activist
role
he's
taking
personally
and
going
out
those
mornings
and
handing
out
flyers.
But
we
need
to
look
at
the
other
tools
that
we
ask
for
the
council.
J
One
was
a
share
of
the
sales
tax
or
perhaps
the
new
sales
tax
for
the
GTA
that
will
help
fund
major
projects
like
this,
because
it's
going
to
be
difficult
to
squeeze
more
money
out
of
a
Queen's
Park
under
any
stripe
of
government.
As
the
GTA
like
it
always
is.
We
need
to
prove
to
them
that
we're
willing
to
put
our
politics
and
to
put
our
political,
necks
out
and
start
actually
paying
for
the
projects
that
that
were
asking
money
for,
and
we
did
that
as
a
council
under
councillor
Matt
Lowe's
motion.
J
We
asked
for
either
a
piece
of
the
the
HST
or
an
additional
point
or
two
on
the
HST.
We
shouldn't
be
afraid
to
talk
about
that
now,
because,
if
we're
going
to
deliver
the
levels
of
service
that
the
good
people
of
Toronto
from
Scarborough
to
Etobicoke
from
North
York
down
to
the
downtown,
we're
all
in
this
one
together
we're
going
to
need
to
fund
that
and
that's
going
to
take
all
of
us
digging
a
little
deeper
in
our
pockets.
As
well
as
asking
the
province
to
dig
a
little
deeper
in
theirs,.
G
Thank
You
speaker,
I,
had
I
I
must
confess
I
had
some
trepidations
coming
into
this
debate.
They
often
go
quite
sideways,
but
I
was
just
looking
through
all
the
different
motions
that
removed
and,
to
my
surprise,
I,
think
I'm
going
to
vote
for
all
of
them.
Each
of
them
reinforces
I
think
some
things
that
we
need
to
concentrate
on
in
terms
of
transit
planning
that
we've
lost
sight
of.
G
In
the
last
few
years,
I'd
say
the
last
seven,
or
so
each
of
them
emphasizes
a
different
piece
of
trying
to
maximise
our
existing
transit
network
and
make
our
transit
network
more
fine-grained.
So,
for
example,
you
have
the
the
excellent
motion
by
councillor
Cole,
which
says
what
the
very
first
job
we
should
do.
The
most
cost-effective
thing
to
do.
The
most
important
thing
to
do
is
to
make
your
current
assets
work
better.
G
You
also
have
what
councilor
Grimes
was
talking
about
in
terms
of
building
in
those
fine
finer
grain
pieces
to
our
network
and
I
want
to
remind
all
of
you.
The
largest
infrastructure
project
in
the
country
is
doing
precisely
that
the
Eglinton
crosstown,
those
of
you
say
we
haven't
been
making
investments
I
want
to
remind
you
that
the
single
biggest
transit
investment
of
my
lifetime
is
under
construction
right
now
and
that's
the
Eglinton
crosstown
and
it
precisely
is
about
filling
in
making
more
fine-grained
our
transit
network.
G
On
the
other
hand,
I
think
we
have
lost
our
path
a
bit
by
thinking
that
the
way
to
improve
transit
in
the
City
of
Toronto
is
to
continue
to
extend
linearly
outwards.
Our
subways
I
was
an
opponent
of
extending
the
subway
to
York
University
and
up
in
Devon.
Similarly,
I've
been
an
opponent
of
extending
the
subway
out
into
Scarborough.
G
I
always
thought
a
much
better
solution
was
a
fine
grain
light
rail
network
and
similarly
I
think
it's
a
mistake
to
just
continue
to
expand
the
subway
north
on
the
young
line
for
those
longer
hall
trips,
a
much
better
solution,
which
is
one
with
I
thought.
We
were
starting
with
that.
This
term
is
to
make
better
use
of
long
distance
commuter
rail,
regional,
Express,
rail.
G
That
is
what
people
in
York
region
and
further
reaches
of
the
GTA
should
be
relying
on
things
that
don't
stop
is
frequently
things
that
aren't
currently
congested
things
that
are
aimed
at
the
long
haul.
Infrequent
stop
passenger,
that's
where
we
should
be
investing
and
that's
why
I
have
to
support
what
councillor
Matt
Lowe
is
doing,
which
is
to
say
no
extending
the
subway
further
north
along
Yonge
congest
SAN,
already
congested
system
I've
had
concerns
at
some
of
the
versions
of
regional
Express
rail,
adding
too
many
stations
in,
but
the
basic
idea
of.
G
If
you
want
to
travel
from
Maple
to
downtown
Toronto,
you
should
be
taking
a
long
haul
system
that
only
stops
once
or
twice
on
the
way
and
is
funded
by
the
province
of
or
region-wide.
That's
a
much
better
solution
than
to
put
them
on
a
subway,
that's
full
and
stops
and
stops
and
stops
and
stops
and
stops
and
stops
and
stops.
G
So
that's
why
I
think
some
of
the
motions
we've
seen
from
councillor
havoc
councillor,
Matt
Lowe
and
some
of
the
others
who
are
saying
we
have
to
make
sure
that
building
the
finer
grain
network
with
things
like
the
downtown
relief
line,
making
the
improvements
at
bluer
and
young
that
councillor
Cole
is
talking
about
getting
the
light
rail
pieces
that
are
still
outstanding
from
transit
city
done.
That's
the
way
we
best
serve
the
people
of
Toronto.
The
people
who
elected
us
extending
subways
further
and
further
in
a
linear
fashion
does
not
make
transit
better
for
Torontonians.
G
T
Well,
thank
you,
madam
Speaker
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
members
of
council
for
what
I
think
has
been
a
good
debate.
I
want.
They
say
thank
you
to
our
staff
who
work
away
at
all
of
these
different
transit
initiatives
and
thank
you
to
the
TTC
because
they
have
been
an
integral
part
and
their
board
considered.
T
All
of
this
I
should
say
I'll
be
supporting
a
number
of
the
majority
of
the
motions
in
particular
I
want
to
draw
attention
to
councillor
Davis's
motion
and
say
that
I
think
this
is
a
worthwhile
addition
to
the
language.
That's
in
the
recommendations
and
I'll
be
supporting
that
I
will
not
be
supporting
motions
that
are
the
voice
of
little
timid
Toronto.
This
is
not
where
we
are
I
mean
I
ask
to
be
brought
these
maps
that
I've
seen
before,
and
they
make
me
weep
when
I
see
them
New
York.
This
is
Paris.
T
London
I
mean
look
at
them
compared
to
what
we
have
today
and
we
we
are.
We
have
we
took
decades
off,
building
transit.
We
took
decades
off,
we
meaning
people
before
us,
other
governments.
Sometimes
it's
because
the
responsibility
for
that
could
be
spread
around,
but
some
of
it
belongs
here
and
now
we're
having
to
make
up
for
lost
time,
because
we've
created
a
nightmare
of
congestion
both
on
our
roads,
which
is
not
healthy
for
anybody.
It's
not
good
for
anybody.
T
It's
not
good
for
people,
the
environment,
the
economy,
families
or
anything
else,
and
frankly,
we've
created
a
nightmare
on
large
parts
of
our
transit
as
well.
I
would
refer
you
to
the
letter
that
I
wrote
to
mr.
Byford
today
and
that
I've
chatted
with
them
about
asking
him
to
really
make
an
effort
to
see
if
we
can
be
creative,
even
more
so
than
we've
tried
to
be
with
respect
to
trying
to
resolve
things
on
the
Yonge
Street
subway
north
of
Lewes,
because
that
is
a
congestion
nightmare.
T
We
have,
as
a
council,
approved
a
limited
number
of
new
priority
transit
projects.
We
did
it
because
the
federal
government
asked
us
to
do
it
in
the
context
of
their
funding
that
they've
come
forward
with.
They
have
indicated
they're
going
to
be
funding
us
to
the
tune
of
billions
of
dollars,
and
they
said
you
had
to
send
in
a
list.
T
So
when
I
heard
people
refer
to
the
need
for
a
plan,
I
think
we
have
the
makings
of
a
plan,
at
least
in
terms
of
the
next
phase
of
transit
projects,
and,
as
you
know,
the
list
we
sent
them
with
the
concurrence
of
this
council
head
on
it.
The
relief
line,
the
Eglinton
East
LRT
and
the
waterfront
LRT.
T
And
yes,
these
are
future
transit
projects,
but
these
are
the
ones
we
have
to
get
on
with
now,
instead
of
following
the
old
way,
which
is
to
somehow
pretend
that
it's
good
enough
to
be
doing
one
project
at
a
time
or
to
stand
admiring
projects.
Somebody
else
is
doing
and
to
hesitate
to
do
anything
else,
especially
things
that
are
bold
and
that
are
related
to
the
future.
T
Out
of
fear
that
somehow
we
have
an
inability
to
look
beyond
our
word
boundaries
or
that
somehow
we're
worried
about
both
the
fact
that
we've
got
to
go
out
and
get
the
money,
including
from
our
own
sources.
We
have
to
do
that.
We
tried
we
made
a
really
valiant.
Try
and
I
was
proud
of
this
council
the
day
that
we
did,
that
and
I
deeply
dismayed
at
the
fact
that
the
province
having
first
encouraged
us
to
go
ahead
and
do
that
privately
and
publicly
then
pulled
the
rug
out
from
under
us.
T
But
that's
done
and
we're
now
going
to
have
to
come
back
to
that.
But
it
has
been
part
of
accepted
wisdom
here
long
before
my
time
that
the
relief
line
was
and
is
the
number
one
future
priority
project
it
is.
It
was
said
long
before
I
got
here
that
that
was
the
case,
and
so
what
we're
doing
here
today
is
is
simply
acknowledging
and
moving
forward
continuing
to
move
forward
with
that
project.
That
was,
and
is
the
number
one
priority
approved:
tys
SE,
smart
track,
the
bluer
Danforth
subway
extension
and
so
on.
T
So
my
next
task,
as
the
mayor
and
hopefully
joined
in
by
you
and
I'm,
still
welcoming
more
help
in
this
regard,
is
to
get
the
money
from
the
other
governments
to
pay
their
share
of
these
future
projects.
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
province
wants
me
to
spend
all
of
my
time
and
energy
thanking
them
for
projects
past
and
present
I.
Do
it
every
time
I
speak
and
I.
Do
it
again
today,
even
though
I'm
running
out
of
time
I'm
most
grateful
for
the
fact
that
they
have
funded
all
the
transit
they
have
in
this
city?
T
We're
now
talking,
though,
about
the
future
and
about
saying
we
can't
stand
still
and
admire
or
be
grateful
for
what
is
going
on
at
present
as
much
as
we
may
be,
grateful
we've
moved
on
and
we
are
looking
to
secure
funding
for
that
next
wave
of
transit
projects.
That's
going
to
help
us
keep
this
city
livable
build
this
city,
accommodate
the
people
who
are
coming
here,
let
alone
the
people
who
are
already
here
and
that
is
led
by
the
Relief
Fund.
T
And
if
we
want
to
be
absolutely
certain
that
we're
not
going
to
stall
again,
then
I
think
we
want
to
be
certain
that
funding
is
going
to
be
there.
I
ask
you
these
questions
and
I
can
have
your
indulgence
to
have
one
more
minute.
Madam
Speaker,
why?
If
the
federal
government
got
a
list
and
they
said
we're
going
to
put
forward
the
money
to
build
the
projects
on
that
list,
you
send.
T
Why
won't
the
province
step
up
and
say
yes,
we'll
be
there
too,
as
a
partner,
the
Minister
keeps
saying:
I
won't
take
yes
for
an
answer.
Well,
I'll!
Take
yes
for
an
answer
when
I
get
yes
for
an
answer
which
is
yes,
we'll
be
there
for
the
relief
line,
yes,
we'll
be
there
for
the
for
the
Eglinton
East
LRT,
yes,
we'll
be
there
for
Waterfront
Transit,
read
page
199
of
their
budget
and
ask
yourself
why
that
language
is
there
that
sort
of
says
well,
maybe
we'll
be
there?
T
Maybe
we
won't
be
reserved
the
right
to
maybe
be
there
or
maybe
not.
That
concerned
me.
It
concerns
me
that
we
have
a
government
that
is
putting
150
million
dollars
in
design
and
finding
and
yet
won't
do
the
obvious
and
say,
of
course,
we're
there
for
the
building
money
as
well
for
our
share
partnership
with
you
and
the
federal
government.
It
bothers
me
that
that
if
they
have
this
escape
Act
language
in
their
budget,
why
would
they
have
that
there
if
they
intended
to
step
up?
T
So
I
think
that
this
today
is
a
big
step
forward
for
us
to
keep
on
with
this
work
on
the
relief
line
we
will
keep
on
with
the
work
on
the
Eglinton,
East,
LRT
and
waterfront,
and
smart
track
and
tya
SSE
and
the
blur
Danforth
subway
extension.
This
is
not
too
bold
for
us,
this
is
as
bold
as
we
should
and
must
be
to
make
up
for
lost
time
and
to
properly
serve
the
people
of
Toronto
and
I'm.
T
Confident
we
can
come
up
with
the
answers
we
need
to
come
up
with
in
order
to
make
sure
we
fund
it
and
get
it
built
I'm
just
out
seeking
now
the
money
to
make
sure
that
we
can
be
confident
in
this
next
wave
of
project
led
by
the
ones
that
are
in
at
this
paper
today
and
I'm
delighted
to
have
the
alliance
with
the
York
regional
politicians,
because
they're
going
to
be
supportive
of
a
relief
line.
When
was
the
last
time
you
heard
of
them
being
supportive
of
a
transit
project
in
Toronto
I.
N
You
madam
Speaker
I,
heard
the
mayor
saying
it
bothers
me
that
this
is
not
done
and
he
grinds
all
those
projects.
What
bothers
me,
mr.
mayor,
that
you
didn't
bother
to
say
anything
about
Shepherd
subway,
so
my
question
to
you
and
what
it
bothers
me
as
long
as
all
the
other
constituents
are
at
the
4:01.
Where
are
you
on
the
Sheppard
subway
I?
Can.
T
Find
my
list,
madam
Speaker,
through
you
I,
can
find
the
list
that
I
that
I
recited
there
to
list
a
project
that
have
been
approved
by
this
council
and
and
and
both
in
terms
of
things.
We
are
proceeding
with
and
lists
of
lists
of
projects
that
are
on
our
priority
list
for
the
federal
government.
They
asked
us
for
a
list
of
priority
projects.
We
gave
them
one.
N
T
Or
they
don't
care
about
you,
madam
Speaker,
through
you,
I,
want
to
be
bold
and
I
want
to
be
I
want
to
be
ambitious
about
this
and
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
timid
or
confine
to
our
ward
boundaries
and
kind
of
cowering
and
sort
of
thinking
that
we
can't
people
and
I
in
that
regard.
I
welcome
the
fact
that
this
report
also
moves
us
ahead.
I'll,
be
it
in
a
preliminary
way
with
the
North
relief
line.
N
By
their
delegation,
come
speak
to
me
about
Agincourt
mall,
that
just
bounders
my
my
my
ward
and
it's
in
conflict,
my
colleagues
norm
telling
they
were
talking
about
putting
ten
towers
they're
talking
about
five
thousand
units
and
along
Sheppard
and
Kennedy.
They
got
a
space
that
said
subway
and
at
the
corner
they
got
an
LRT.
So
my
question
to
you,
sir,
is:
what
are
we
going
to
encourage
them
to
do?
Put
the
word
subway
bold
in
their
plans
or
do
we
say
scrapped
that
and
put
LRT
at
the
corner?
N
A
T
T
Which
is
that
every
time
I
go
up
into
that
part
of
town
and
I?
Am
there
very
often
I
find
a
deep
division
that
exists
on
the
up
there,
among
politicians
and
among
people
as
to
what
mode
of
transit
we
should
be
building
on
Shepard?
You
are
in
favor
of
a
subway.
You
make
that
very
clear
all
right.
So,
let's
councillor
Kelly
but
I
meet
lots
of
other
people
who
are
not
and
as
a
result,
I.
T
So
I
think
we'll
have
to
keep
working
on
that
we'll
have
to
keep
trying
to
forward
your
consensus
that
the
bottom
line
is
I
acknowledge
the
fact
there
is
more
and
better
transit
needed
along
Shepherd,
not
just
in
the
east
part,
but
in
the
West
as
well.
But
if
you
said
to
me,
am
I
going
to
stand
here
and
make
instant
policy
on
that
no
I'm,
not
because
I
just
think
it
is
one
where
the
community
itself
hasn't
spoken
with
one
voice
and
say
this
is
what
we
want.
If.
T
Be
delighted
to
hear
the
community
speaking
with
one
voice
on
this
because
so
far
I've
only
heard
differing
opinions
when
I
go
up
there
and
including
some
people
who
say,
madam
Speaker,
we
should
maybe
just
do
nothing
as
opposed
to
taking
one
choice
or
the
other.
So
it's
confusing
and
Sewer
go
via
okay.
A
E
Madam
Speaker
Mayor
Tory
suggested
that
anyone.
This
is
what
I
inferred.
Anyone
who
doesn't
support
the
plan
that
he's
put
out
is
I'm
paraphrasing,
but
something
like
just
thinking
of
small
little
Toronto
or
little
planning
for
all
delighted,
timid,
timid,
little
Toronto,
I
forget
exactly
the
term,
but
it
was.
It
was
something
orchestrated
to
make
a
point.
E
E
You
said
it's
the
wrong
line
at
the
wrong
time
and
the
one
factual
thing
you
said
is
it
isn't
funded
I
submit
and
the
next
thing
you
said
just
two
weeks
ago,
Toronto
Star
May,
9th
2017.
You
wrote
with
regard
to
the
question
of
extending
the
working
on
the
extension
of
the
young
line.
Concurrently
with
really
fine,
you
said:
we've
got
lots
to
do
with
the
TTC
heavens
above.
They
have
all
kinds
of
projects
to
work
on
and
if
we're
in
certain
that
the
relief
line
will
be
funded
or
not
by
the
province
council.
A
E
Would
we
be
devoting
our
chance
you're
mad
low,
your
question
busy?
This
is
the
preface
devoting
our
time
working
on
the
Yonge
Street
north
extension,
so
in
fact
you
were
arguing
against
taking
the
very
attack
that
you
are
today.
I,
don't
understand
when
it's
one
thing
to
be
arguing
for
these
things,
but
then,
when
you
derive
an
opposing
view
where
I
suggest
and
others
have
suggested
that
it
actually
isn't
wise
to
work
on
these
two
lines.
Concurrently,
for,
in
fact,
fair
I
would
submit
that
it's
even
queue-jumping
without
facts
supporting
this.
How
do
you?
E
T
Perhaps
madam
Speaker
I
might
start
with
the
third,
which
is
that
I
said
what
I
did
I
acknowledge.
You
quoted
me
accurately
there
with
respect
to
saying
that
perhaps
we
should
consider
just
not
continuing
with
our
work
on
the
young.
North
extension
I
then
went
and
had
a
meeting
with
the
mayors
of
York
Region
that
came
to
the
meeting,
and
there
were
a
number
that
didn't
come
to
the
subsequent
to
deputation
at
the
executive
committee
and
we
decided
after
discussion,
which
is
what
I
would
hope.
T
You
would
like
me
to
be
doing
as
the
mayor
of
the
city
that
it
would
be
better
to
have
them
as
allies,
given
what
I
accept
as
just
the
reality
here,
which
is
that
the
province
is
going
to
decide
to
do
those
two
projects,
meaning
the
relief
line
that
we're
here
talking
about
today
and
the
young
Street
north
extension
together.
That's
just
political
reality:
I
know
you
don't
like
it,
because
I
know
that
you
know
going
beyond
Eglinton
Avenue
is
a
stretch.
R
E
M
T
Member
of
Council
of
madam
Speaker,
somehow
offended
at
what
I
said
in
terms
of
taking
an
arrow
effective
on
the
issues,
I'm
happy
to
withdraw
those
comments
and
just
continue
to
move
forward
and
say
what
I
was
saying
about
about
the
meeting
with
the
mayors
and
the
chair
of
York,
which
is
that
they
said
they
were
prepared
to
join
in
common
cause.
Given
the
reality
that
I,
acknowledged
and
I
think
it's
a
reality,
everybody
in
this
chamber
would
acknowledge
the
Yonge
Street.
T
The
relief
line
that
we're
talking
about
here
within
the
bounds
of
our
city
will
not
be
proceeding
separate
and
apart
from
the
York
Region
project,
that's
political
reality
and
when
they
offer
to
support
I,
can't
even
remember
a
time
when
they
supported
a
transit
project
within
our
city,
namely
the
relief
and
I
can't
remember.
If
it
ever
happened
before
and
said
they
would
support
in
the
inner
circle
of
the
government
and
publicly
are
really
fine.
T
I
decided
that
was
a
better
approach
to
take,
given
the
reality
than
not
and
I
immediately
moved
as
well,
though,
to
take
action
and
I'm
not
sure
what
you've
done.
In
this
regard.
We
could
check
the
record
and
see
with
regard
to
asking
the
TTC
at
roughly
the
same
time
if
they
would
come
back
and
give
us
some
ideas
and
how,
in
the
shorter
term,
we
could
also
address
the
congestion
that
I've
acknowledged
many
times
exists,
north
of
Bloor
Street.
T
Now,
with
respect,
madam
speaker,
to
the
to
the
smart
track,
configuration
I've
acknowledged
many
times
publicly
that,
after
we
have
reports
from
our
very
capable
staff,
we
made
some
alterations
in
that
regard,
and
the
bottom
line
is.
We
are
still
ending
up
in
this
city
within
this
city,
with
GO
train
tracks
that
will
be
used
to
have
additional
stops
inside
the
city
where
people
can
get
on
and
off
GO
Transit
inside
the
city
and
that
those
are
going
to
be
a
real
benefit
to
people
in
Liberty,
Village,
north,
scarborough
and
other
places
in
this
city.
T
T
It's
going
to
be
operating,
it's
going
to
be
transporting
people
and
it
will
provide
a
degree
of
relief
to
the
Yonge
Street
subway
line,
not
as
much
as
the
relief
line
not
as
much
as
some
of
the
other
things,
but
it
will
provide
some
relief,
and
that
is
one
of
the
reasons.
One
of
the
reasons
we're
doing
Thank.
K
You
speaker
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
for
supporting
my
motions
and
it
does
set
out
the
concerns
I
have
about
the
operating
expenses
that
we
have
approved
for
several
lines
up
until
this
point
and
it's
pretty
clear
that
we
don't
see
really
operating
dollars
coming.
Certainly
within
this
term
and
I'm
wondering
how
what
kinds
of
revenue
tools
you
mentioned
earlier,
that
we're
going
to
have
to
come
back
to
that
so
I'm
wondering
in
light
of
the
last
response
from
the
provincial
government.
What
other
revenue
tools
are
we
going
to
be
considering,
and
will
you
support?
Madam.
T
Speaker,
I
would
say
to
the
councillors
riu
that
I
I
can't
answer
that
question
as
yet.
But
if
you
don't
think
I've
been
thinking
about
it
since
the
day
that
we
were
ambushed
on
the
road
tolls,
you'd
be
incorrect.
I
have
been
thinking
about
it.
Just
as
one
member
of
council
and
as
the
mayor
I'm
still
hopeful
that
there
could
be
some
arrangements
we
could
enter
into
with
the
provincial
government
that
might
change
our
overall
financial
framework
with
them.
T
That
would
take
account
of
the
fact
that
we
need
this
money
to
go,
build
and
operate
transit,
but
I
can
only
say
to
you
that
I'm
seized
of
it
and
that
I
will
be.
You
know,
putting
forward
some
ideas
in
that
regard,
because
I
acknowledge
the
fact
that
the
that
we
have
to
come
forward
with
our
share
as
it
were,
and
the
only
thing
that
I
find
really
quite
rich
and
and
and
I've
described
it
correctly.
T
I
believe
as
a
smokescreen
is
that
the
Ministry
of
Transportation
for
Ontario
says
well
I'm
not
going
to
come
forward
and
say
we'll
be
at
the
table
for
the
relief
line
until
the
city
comes
forward.
He
being
the
man
who
led
the
charge
to
get
rid
of
road
tolls
when
we
passed
that
motion
overwhelmingly
here
at
this
council,
so
I
acknowledge
that
we
have
a
responsibility
to
address
that
at
some
point
in
time
and
I.
Do
that
as
I
say
so.
K
This
year,
the
T
y
SSC
is
actually
costing
us
30
million
dollars
in
the
2018
budget,
and
that
is
subsidizing
the
residents
of
the
GTA
to
come
into
the
city
and
to
use
the
TTC.
So
when
I
did
ask
the
mayors
whether
they
felt
they
had
an
obligation
to
contribute
to
the
operating
side,
they
were
certainly
not
forthcoming.
T
Madam
Speaker
I
think
the
second
question
is
a
very
pertinent
question
and
I
can
only
say
we're
participating
in
those
discussions
trying
to
see
them
move
along
as
quickly
as
possible
and
I've
made
the
point
many
times
publicly
and
privately,
that
our
residents
are
being
ripped
off
at
the
moment
in
terms
of
the
per
kilometer
charge.
They
pay,
for
example,
for
transportation.
T
In
that
regard,
I
would
say
that's
a
very
polite
way
of
putting
it.
I
would
just
say
that
we're
going
to
have
to
go
through
some
discussions
with
them
and
it's
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
supporting
your
motion,
because
it
says
we
have
to
discuss
that
with
them
and
we're
going
to
have
a
trade-off
to
make,
because
we
want
to
keep
control
of
these
projects
and
we
realize
only
one
person
can
operate
it
and
that
should
be
in
both
cases.
T
K
So
one
of
the
concerns
that
I
had
at
the
time
we
approved
the
tyf
SD
to
advance
and-
and
we
began
the
design
for
pre
designed
design
and
construction-
was
that
we
did
not
have
a
deal
on
the
operating
cost.
We
did
not
have
a
deal
on
the
operating
cost
from
the
LRT
and
what
happened
two
months
ago.
We
all
vote
to
pay
for
100%
of
the
operating
cost
of
the
allergies.
That
was
never
the
deal
that
I
assumed
we
were
entering
into
at
the
time
that
we
approved
that
master
agreement.
So
what
this
is?
T
T
Only
say,
madam
Speaker,
through
you
to
the
councilor
that
when
you
talk
about
that
one
element
of
what
was
a
very
complicated
complex
deal
involving
a
lot
of
different
transit
projects.
When
you
speak
of
the
crosstown
operating
cause
there
were
gives
and
takes
in
that
deal
and
I
believe,
and
the
council
approved
it
I
think
because
they
felt
as
well
that
it
was
a
fair
deal
overall
taken
overall.
So
yes,
yep!
Yes,
we
council
did
approve
it
so
well,
there
I'm
sure
there
were
two
senses
are.
T
That
the
bottom
line
is
that
the
council
approved
it
because
they
felt
in
the
majority
a
substantial
majority.
They
recall
that
it
was
a
fair
overall
deal,
and
so
in
that
case
now
what
we're
going
to
be
trying
to
do-
and
this
is
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
supporting
your
motion-
is
to
make
sure
that
we
can
go
now,
and
this
would
give
us
the
authority
to
go
now
and
negotiate
a
fair
deal.
That
would
speak
to
the
question
of
the
operating
costs
of
that
particular
subway
line
going
forward
and
I.
T
I
So
merit
oriented
to
bring
your
attention
to
motion
six
day
by
Councillor
Fillion,
which
I
don't
you
have
to
find
it,
but
it
was
the
motion
to
delete
the
recommendation
from
the
executive
committee
that
requested
she
plan
our
executive
Erica
City
Planning
collaboration,
the
chief
executive
officer,
trauma
Transit
Commission
to
prepare
a
cost-benefit
analysis
between
a
downtown
relief
line
and
the
Sheppard
subway
extensions
to
Scarborough
on
the
North
York
relief
line
between
young
and
Sheppard
and
down
to
stations.
So
my
question:
is
you
supported
that
motion
at
executive
committee?
I
T
I
T
I
tell
you:
when
the
report
comes
back,
I
mean
I
I,
don't
think
it
will
change.
You
meant
I,
didn't,
say
it'll
change.
It
was
simply
really
in
my
mind.
The
number
one
priority
approved
by
council
is
going
to
remain
the
number
one
priority
approved
by
council
many
times.
Our
problem
has
been.
We
keep
declaring
things
number
one
priorities
and
not
moving
ahead
of
them
and
I
want
to
move
ahead
with
the
relief
line,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
the
City
of
Toronto
overall
I.
I
Have
a
second
question
on
a
number
two
priority:
we
have
our
list
of
our
number
ones,
but
there's
a
motion
by
councillor
May
havoc
to
an
evaluation
and
prioritization
of
the
whole
range
of
the
current
transit
projects
on
it.
He
has
a
list
from
a
to
n,
but
in
May
of
2013
City
Council
request
the
North
York
relief
line,
unfinished
heavy
construction
between
Sheppard
Avenue
and
Allen
Road,
a
Yonge,
Street
and
Shepherd
I
would
be
recognised
as
a
statue
of
project
priority
for
phase
2
of
Metrolinx
funding.
I
That's
talking
about
the
Sheppard
extent,
oh
I'm,
sorry
as
part
of
a
phase
2,
because
we've
talked
about
it
and
said
phase
1
is
what's
on
the
table
right
now.
Phase
2
is
a
whole
bunch
of
projects
and
council
did
endorse
that
as
being
part
of
phase
2.
So
you
would
still
keep
it
as
part
of
a
future
phase.
Adam
speaker.
T
T
Councillor
may
have
expulsion
and,
frankly,
what's
on
that
list
in
terms
of
all
the
other
ones,
the
whole
idea
that
it
doesn't
even
matter
what
order
they're
in
on
that
list
or
which
are
there,
because
we're
asking
our
staff
to
help
us
prioritize
the
remainder
of
that
list,
so
that
we
can
have
a
more
complete
plan
going
forward
for
even
years
to
go
beyond
the
next
15
years,
which
are
covered
by
smart
tracked.
Ey
SS,
he
bluer
Danforth
subway
and
the
three
I
mentioned
so.
I
T
Madam
Speaker,
that
goes
from
a
two
and
as
long
as
we
understand
those
follow
the
priority
projects
or
this
council's
funding
and
for
the
federal
funding
that
we've
previously
identified
to
me.
If
people
wish
to
have
other
projects
on
that
list,
it's
fine,
because
what
we're
asking
our
staff
to
do
for
us
is
to
prioritize
those
and
give
us
some
idea
as
to
what
they
think
is
going
to
be
the
most
important
and,
frankly,
what's
going
to
print
out,
provide
the
best
cost
benefit
to
the
City
of
Toronto.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
I
Thank
you,
although
it's
I
love,
you
Anthony
that
help
me
later.
Okay,
so
because
it's
not
physically
written
on
the
list
of
council
endorsed
it,
which
it
did
in
2013,
okay,
it
would
fall
under,
including,
but
not
limited
to
part.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
clarification.
I
appreciate
them.
Thank.
C
T
Put
the
the
fruitfulness,
if
that's
a
word
of
my
discussions
in
the
following
order,
I
think
I
have
to
say
that
the
most
fruitful
discussions
thus
far
have
been
with
the
leader
of
the
new
democratic
party.
It
was
indicated.
Not
only
would
she
and
her
party
restore
as
part
of
their
platform
operating
subsidy
funding
for
the
TTC,
but
has
also
indicated
support
for
for
some
of
these
other
measures.
T
She
was
an
opponent
to
Road
coals
I
have
to
say
that
up
front
and
so
I've
expressed
it
to
her
my
disappointment
at
the
fact
that
she
took
that
position
and
I
presume
contributed
to
the
downfall
of
what
I
think
was
a
reasonable
proposal
endorsed
by
this
council.
But
after
that,
I
did
have
discussions
with
mr.
Brown,
but
I
would
not
say
they
were
negative
to
us.
I
just
say
they
were
inconclusive
in
that
I
made
clear
to
him
what
we
needed
in
terms
of
operating
funding
and
capital.
T
We
discussed
even
things
like
uploading
and
downloading
roads,
which
I
also
discussed
with
miss
Horvath,
but
I
can't
say
those
discussions
came
to
any
conclusion
and
then
we
have
the
province
who
seemed
to
be
at
the
moment
steadfastly
refusing
the
part,
the
provincial
Liberal
Party,
steadfastly,
refusing
to
even
contemplate
discussion
of
future
projects
on
our
list
of
priorities
that
have
been
identified
to
the
federal
government.
They
think
so.
C
T
And
they
have
not
anywhere
near
made
that
up
to
us
with
the
money
they've
given
us
in
gas
tax,
which
they
gave
for
every
other
municipality
as
well.
So
I'm
just
saying
to
you
that
we're
looking
at
a
whole
range
of
options,
and
certainly
what
you
suggested
is
one
that
has
been
put
in
front
of
me
and
within
the
reports
that
came
to
the
executive
committee
and
none
of
those
things
have
been
ruled
out.
Okay,
Thank.
H
T
Time
I
know
there
are
a
couple
who
look
very
narrowly
at
things
and
take
a
very
kind
of
myopic
view
about
these
things,
and-
and
that's
fine
that
that's
their
perfect
right
to
do
so
inside
this
room,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
taking
the
the
the
view
that
that
is
an
important
project
for
this
city
that,
if
I,
if
I
accepted
the
reality
which
I
did
and
I
do,
that.
That
is
not
going
to
be
dealt
with.
T
The
question
of
provincial
funding
for
the
release
line
separate
and
apart
from
the
funding
for
the
young
north
extension
that
I
was
better
off
to
have
those
people
as
allies
who,
hopefully
inside
closed
rooms
and
publicly
and
I've
seen
they
said
it
publicly,
are
supporting
that
really
fine,
so
I
was
trying
to
collect
new
friends
for
the
relief
line
and
help
us
get
that
provincial
funding.
We
so
badly
need,
and
you
know
what
their
motives
are.
T
I
guess
is
up
to
them,
but
I
just
know
what
I
was
trying
to
do,
which
was
get
the
funding
for
the
relief
line
and
and
and
not
be
opposed
to
their
project.
I
mean
their
project
is
their
project
and
it's
an
extension
of
our
subway,
and
you
can
see
what's
in
here
in
terms
of
recommendations
which
I
think
have
been
approved
upon
by
the
most
of
councillor.
Davis.
Q
You
very
much
mr.
Muir
I,
acknowledge
and
support
and
wholeheartedly
endorse
that
we're
kind
of
bumping
and
grinding
our
way
towards
a
fairly
comprehensive
plan
that
well
with
17
debates
and
what-have-you.
So
the
plan
is
kind
of
coming
together
and
I.
Think
you
would
acknowledge
that.
Maybe
maybe
this
is
the
first
question
that
the
next
big
kind
of
bump
and
grind
debate
is
going
to
be
around
the
money
piece
and
when
I
look
at
at
least
20
billion
dollars
of
projects
that
we're
gonna
have
to
decide
this
term
and
next
term
of
council.
Q
If
it's
20
billion
dollars
and
I
look
at
okay.
If
we
get
away
with
6
billion
each
order
of
government
where
you
have
to
come
up
with
six
billion
new
dollars
and
that's
on
top
of
the
structural
deficit
and
on
top
of
the
housing
I'm
just
and
then
we
have
today's
meeting
on
how
much
we're
going
to
increase
or
allow
steps,
increase,
property
taxes,
and
it's
2%
I'm,
just
wondering
how
are
we
going
to
get
to
a
place
where
six
billion
dollars
is
going
to
have
to
be
raised?
Q
T
Ideas
are
entertained.
Madam
Speaker
I
will
also
invite
one
because
I
think
it's
one
and
it's
one
that
I
sort
of
mentioned
in
passing
in
the
course
of
my
remarks
today,
if
rogue
tolls
yeah,
we
tried
that
one,
but
if,
for
example,
a
future
provincial
government
and
by
that
I
mean
it
could
be
of
any
of
the
three
parties
that
are
likely
to
form
that
government
or
some
combination
thereof,
if
they
were
to
suggest
that
it
would
make
sound
policy
to
upload
to
roads.
T
That
are,
in
fact,
I
think
for
every
way
of
looking
at
at
provincial
highways
anyway,
and
take
those
back
and
take
responsibility
for
those
that
would
free
up
right
away,
I
think
around
half
of
the
money
you
just
talked
about
that.
We
would
need,
if
you
assume,
a
third,
a
third
and
a
third
and,
as
you
know,
the
big
city,
mayors
of
which
I'm
one
have
suggested.
T
The
formula
going
forward
should
be
40-40-20
so
with
us
thinking
a
party
really
consistent
with
the
comments
of
counselor
member
levy
about
the
fact
we
take
in
eight
cents
on
the
dollar.
So
there
is
an
example
of
something
that
could
happen
and
that
I
haven't
heard
any
leader
of
any
party
as
yet
rule
out
on
the
revenue
generation
side.
I've
indicated
that
we're
taking
a
look
at
all
the
different
ways
in
which
we
can
generate
revenue
and,
of
course
you
don't
have
to
generate
X
billion
dollars
in
revenue.
T
We
have
to
generate
some
revenue
streams
of
our
own
that
allow
us
to
lever
those
to
contribute
to
subways
and
I
will
say,
because
I
don't
want
to
dismiss
it
as
being
nothing
that
we
are
going
to
be
getting
170
million
dollars
more
from
the
government
of
Ontario
on
gas
tax
revenue,
admittedly
not
starting
until
I,
think
2019.
The
only
downside
to
that
is,
first
of
all,
it's
nowhere
near
what
we
would
have
had
from
road
tolls,
both
in
terms
of
absolute
numbers
and
in
terms
of
leverage
ability.
But
we
will
have
that
money.
T
We
just
can't
lever
it,
but
it
will
be
there.
So
I
think
that
we
will
come
up
with
things
that
are
necessary
to
pay
for
this
transit,
because
we
have
to
the
notion
to
us
of
just
sitting
around
and
saying
we
can't
afford
this.
You
know,
poor
old
Toronto
is
going
to
be
just
the
way
we
were
before
little
Toronto.
Looking
at
little,
you
know
things
and
saying
we're
a
big,
bold,
ambitious,
City,
that's
being
recognized
and
admired
around
the
world.
T
A
K
E
A
L
L
A
A
A
A
A
C
C
C
C
A
D
A
A
B
Yeah,
thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
Actually,
look
very
brief.
I
just
wanted
a
staff
about
the
the
this
body.
I'll
call
it
that
will
oversee
this.
What
how
would
you
describe
this
body
I?
Don't
see
any
stuffed
answer?
Oh
there,
you
are
quite
good
they're
just
moving
into
place.
Madam
chair
time,
I
really
setup
we're
good,
so
the
body
that's
overseeing
this.
That
will
eventually
be
created.
B
P
Through
the
speaker,
the
body
that
we're
referring
to
it's
a
safe
real-estate,
centralized
delivery
body
overall
and
what
it
would
have
is
there's
two
elements
to
it:
there's
a
agency
that
would
actually
include
work
that
would
be
related
to
development
as
well
as
long-term
planning,
as
well
as
also
client
relationship
management
roles
and
a
major
city
building,
and
then
there's
another
element
within
the
actual
city,
proper
side
which
would
be
under
the
chief
corporate
officer
organisation.
That
would
be
day-to-day
activities
for
real
estate
and
fellies
management.
Okay,.
B
P
The
speaker,
the
agency,
based
on
the
actual
operating,
are
of
the
agency,
would
have
about
50
to
70
individuals
and
right
now,
we're
proposing
that
that
we're
going
to
consolidate
Bill
Toronto
and
tea
PLC
structures
into
the
agency,
and
they
would
have
an
overarching
board
over
the
agency.
A
nine
person
board
the.
B
P
The
speaker,
the
board,
would
include
at
a
nine
person
board
voting
brights.
It
would
be
six
citizen
numbers
from
the
public
skill
set,
not
just
in
real
estate,
but
also
have
community
skill
sets
around
city
building
and
other
elements
that
we
would
need,
and
it's
actually
documented
in
the
report.
That
way-
and
there
would
also
be
three
councillors
and
one
designated
by
the
mayor
who.
P
The
reviews
that
we've
done
with
the
city
manager's
office
and
best
clap
and
the
subclass,
and
because
it's
an
incubation
period,
which
is
really
important
here,
is
we
felt
that
it
was
important
to
actually
have
councillors
on
the
board
at
this
point
in
time
through
incubation,
and
it
was
based
on
some
best
practices
and
work.
That's
been
done
through
the
organization.
Why.
P
C
Speaker
through
you,
deputy
speaker
and
she
Mitchell
Julie,
thanks
so
much
this
great
great
work
that
you
and
your
team
have
done,
and
it
was
very
informational
when
we
met
with
you
with
our
group
anyway.
So
I
know
that
you
and
I
spoke
subsequently
on
this
particular
issue.
But
in
terms
of
the
having
a.
C
P
Through
the
speaker,
as
part
of
one
of
the
elements
within
the
agency
element
of
this
delivery
arm,
we're
actually
also
putting
in
an
acute
an
incubation,
a
spec
towards
innovation
and
having
the
our
mash
people
get
opportunity
to
actually
look
forward
and
looking
at
other
opportunities
of
how
we
actually
developed
and
built
city
building.
And
so.
P
The
speaker,
what
we
will
be
doing
is
working
with
your
appropriate
bodies
within
the
organization,
the
folks
that
are
coming
together
and
we'll
be
putting
that
as
part
of
our
implementation
plan,
so
we're
in
the
words
just
in
the
midst
of
starting
this
process
in
particular.
But
some
of
the
requirement
organization
is
good,
analytics,
good
data
and
that's
one
of
the
elements
that
is
going
to
be
really
important.
It's
part
of
how
we
move
forward
with
this
organization,
okay,.
C
P
Through
the
speaker,
the
incubation
period
is
a
four-year
incubation
and
we
thought
it
was
important
to
actually
have
this.
Considering
it's
a
quite
a
complex
portfolio
and
we
there's
a
lot
of
individuals
and
many
activities
within
the
structure.
So
the
phasing
would
be
the
first
element
of
the
phasing
for
the
agency
with
being
built
on
T
plc
together
in
the
structure,
and
we
and
also
within
the
web
city
proper
site.
Under
the
chief
corporate
office
organization.
P
One
is
really
clear
that
the
long
term
integrated
plan
will
be
day,
one
working
with
all
the
program
owners,
as
well
as
all
counselors
and
all
stakeholders
to
develop
that
program
and
to
come
and
that
long-term
planning
to
come
back
to
Council
in
q1
of
2019
and,
at
the
same
time,
building
the
practices
and
building
the
also
the
client
relationship
management
roles.
Those
are
really
critical
things
as
well
as
also
making
sure
that
we're
also
looking
at
the
opportunities
with
particular
city
building
an
AV
cities
building
throughout
the
process.
Okay,
great
thank
you.
L
I
just
wanted
to
have
a
clearer
idea
of
the
the
transition
plan.
If
the.
If
the
intention
is
to
create
an
agency
that
will
be
launched
on
January
the
1st,
recognizing
that
we
have
about
six
months
to
that
date,
do
you
have
enough
time
to
dissolve
the
the
other
agencies
and
board
to
reconstitute
itself
into
this
particular
agency
in
a
matter
of
six
months?
Am
I
reading
the
report
correctly?
Is
that
what's
before
us
through.
M
Can
you
describe
that's
the
wrong
time?
Can
I
just
interrupt
you
for
a
minute
and
I
am
stopping
your
time
folks
on
this
side
of
the
chamber,
most
of
what
you're
saying
is
being
picked
up
by
the
staff
microphone
we're
doing
questions
and
answers
in
your
area
of
the
room
right
now,
a
little
quiet,
Thank
You,
councillor
wong-tam!
Yes,.
L
P
L
P
Going
back
through
the
speaker,
the
agencies
and
corporations
that
you
that
you
are
referring
to
counsellor
there's
a
lot
of
organizations
here
that
are
not
real
estate
organizations
that
will
not
be
consolidated
centralizing
into
this
structure.
Activities
that
they
perform
would
be
part
of
the
structure,
but
their
programs
continue
whether
it's
on
city
housing
TTC.
They
continue.
That's
not
what
we're
referring
to
referring
to
the
activities
that
they
provide
from
a
real
estate
perspective.
So.
L
L
The
will
the
new
real
estate
agency
that
that
is
to
be
created.
Will
it
have
what
type
of
powers
would
have?
Will
it
have
the
the
latitudinal
powers
to
borrow?
Will
it
have
powers
to
to
dispose
of
real
estate
without
coming
back
to
Council,
without
going
to
the
agencies?
Where
were
that
facility
and
asset
was
serving
them?
I
can.
C
L
Is
very
helpful,
thank
you
and
the
if
you
can
just
help
me
understand,
with
respect
to
the
the
composition
of
the
board
as
proposed,
there
are
nine
members,
I
recognized
the
very
difficult
exercise.
You
could
say:
seven
you
could
have
been
nine.
You
could
have
said
eleven
I
want
to
understand
the
the
composition
with
respect
to
councilor
representations
in
the
four
districts
north
york,
scarborough
Etobicoke
and
toronto.
A
short
is
there
a
reason
why
there
wasn't
consideration
about
the
representation
from
the
four
districts
on
this
particular
agency.
P
Through
the
through
speaker,
we
actually
looked
at
many
different
options
and
through
a
lot
of
consultation
with
many
of
yourselves
as
well
as
staff,
and
what
came
back
was
this
composition
as
being
the
one
that
people
actually
felt
comfortable
with
and
in
this
composition,
I
think
is
important
to
state
that
there's
definitely
the
doesn't
for
the
mayor,
but
it's
at
large
the
councillors
right.
So
anyone
could
actually
go
through
the
application
possibilities
for
exam
committee.
Okay,.
L
P
H
You
very
much
madam
Speaker
I
wondered
if
you
would
outline
sort
of
the
function
and
use
of
having
as
such
an
agency
is
this
about
city
building
is
or
is
it
about
budget
building?
Is
it
about
disposal
of
land?
What
is
the
purpose
of
bringing
all
of
this
together?
Perhaps
you
did
lighten
counsel
as
you're
thinking
on
that
piece
for.
P
The
speaker,
the
the
Mandate
of
the
organization
overall,
including
the
agency
and
the
city
proper
element,
is
really
about
three
things.
In
my
mind,
one
would
be
to
enable
city
building.
You
know
from
social
economic
perspective
and
and
also
the
can
one
would
be
supporting
the
programs
across
the
city,
the
visions,
agencies
and
corporations.
P
They
actually
need
the
support
from
this
organization
to
coordinate
the
effort,
so
they
can
focus
on
delivering
their
programs
and
the
last
thing
is
actually
to
focus,
and
it
really
is
the
actual
agency
and
the
material
structure
to
focus
on
doing
really
good
real
estate
activities
and
being
good
at
lifecycle
management
of
assets.
So
that's
really
the
mandate
of
the
structure
right.
H
And
would
you
describe
this
as
kind
of
a
looking
at
the
public
interest
rather
than
the
budget
interest
and
seeing
how
we
can
bring
things
together?
Get
yes
go
Alma's,
gone
and
looking
at
how
we
can
bring
agencies
of
ours
together
with
its
library,
TTC,
all
working
together
and
breaking
down
some
of
the
silos
that
we've
experienced
in
the
last
of
in
the
last
few
years
through.
H
G
Thank
you
speaker
to
the
chief
corporate
officer.
At
times
there
were
some
rather
lively
debates
about
the
the
mandating
purpose
of
some
of
the
predecessor.
Organizations
and
I
want
to
understand
better
the
mandate
for
this.
One
of
the
particular
points
of
contention
is,
for
example,
some
felt
that
the
purpose
of
build
Toronto
was
to
sell
assets
and
generate
cash.
My
understanding
is
that
what
we're
proposing
here
is
not
organized
to
do
that,
but
is
rather
organized
to
better
integrate
our
real
estate
holdings
and
to
enhance
Public
Services.
Is
that
understanding
correct
through.
P
G
P
G
G
P
F
You,
madam
Speaker,
you
mentioned
unlock
land
value
and
I,
know
know
the
answer
this
cuz,
that's
before
so
I
just
took
my
board
Exhibition
Place
with
strategic
plan
and
and
I
think
I'll
talk
to
the
library
chair
there.
Let's
see
the
library
board
wants
to
build
a
new
library
or
Exhibition
Place
wants
to
build
a
water
park,
so
we've
gone
through
ste
to
plan.
What
is
the
role
of
these
boards
gonna
be
at
the
end
of
the
day.
P
Through
the
speaker,
what
we
will
be
doing,
and
obviously
we've
had
this
dialogue,
this
organization,
the
the
new
real
estate
arm,
will
be
supporting
the
Exhibition
Place
or
the
library
as
to
what
the
requirements
are
and
what
they'll
do
is
they'll
outline.
What
their
needs
are,
what
the
requirements
are
and
this
organization
this
evil
estate
arm
will
be
supporting
the
programs,
whether
it's
the
exhibition,
the
library
or
any
other
groups
to
be
able
to
perform
the
activities
necessary.
Yes,
we're
trying
unlock
land.
F
P
F
P
F
We're
working
through
the
process,
so
what
do
I
tell
my
members
of
my
board
or
library
board
what
we
tell
our
citizens
that
may
not
be
in
tune
with
the
counselors
here
that
are
at
the
table.
We
have
some
of
these
boards
with
citizens
on
there.
How
do
we
communicate
with
map
through
today?
I
know
we're
working
through
it,
but
so.
P
F
K
Davis
Thank
You
speaker
recommendation
8
talks
about
that.
This
agency
will
operate
according
to
the
procedural
bylaw
chapter
27,
but
then
it
goes
on
to
say
in
recommendation
8
that
if
you
will
be
bringing
back
a
procedural
bylaw,
so
is
this
procedural
bylaw
you're
proposing
to
bring
back
going
to
be
reflective
of
chapter
27
through.
B
The
speaker,
because
of
the
board
we're
recommending
is
an
interim
board.
What
we're
suggesting
is
for
the
first
number
of
months.
While
the
interim
board
is
operating,
they
would
operate
under
chapter
27,
counsel,
presenters.
We
have
a
requirement
that
all
of
our
boards
have
a
procedure
bylaw
that
has
adopted
and
approved
by
City
Council.
So
this
board,
like
all
our
others,
would
do
similar
most
of
the
board's
look
at
chapter
27
as
a
guide
and
then
adjusted
for
their
own
business
needs.
Do
you
see.
B
Yes,
council
is
required
to
approve
the
procedure
bylaws
and
generally
as
a
matter
of
course,
counselor.
A
lot
of
the
boards
will
ask
for
advice
from
work
from
the
city
manager's
office,
and
often
we
provide
input
on
the
drop
procedure
bylaws
before
they
come
form,
and
it's
your
assumption.
These
will
be
open
meetings,
they're
required
under
law
to
hold
open
meetings
pursuant
to
coda
and.
K
All
of
the
rules
around
closed
meetings,
they
will
all
apply.
That
is
correct,
and
on
the
question
of
the
delegated
authority
report,
what
kinds
of
matters
do
you
believe
are
going
to
be
delegated
because
I
feel
as
though
that
is
going
to
be
the
nub
of
the
matter?
How
much
authority
this
agency
will
have.
P
So
through
the
speaker,
the
delegate
right
now
the
delegated
authorities,
as
we
speak,
we
have
them
today
for
the
real
estate
organization
that
actually
is
under
the
CCO,
we're
going
to
review
them
and
see
if
they
still
are
intact
and
they
make
sense
and
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
and
I'll
be
a
lot
of
the
what
I
call
transactional
activities
we
go
to
GMC,
which
will
continue
at
this
point
in
time.
We're
not
anticipating
any
major
changes
there
and
some
of
the
major
building
projects
that
we
have
gone
to
exec
committee.
P
K
P
P
K
P
K
So
this
is
not
the
relationship
framework.
It
is
those
things
that
we
will
give
authority
to
staff
the
transactions
that
they
will
have
the
authority
to
undertake
independent
of
City
Council's
approval,
that's
correct,
and
what
is
the
current
delegated
authority
framework
that
we
have
given
to
the
various
real
estate
agent,
real
estate
entities
and
what
we
currently
have
a
delegated
authority
here
for
counsel.
B
K
P
K
P
S
P
I
N
P
N
P
N
P
N
P
At
truth,
speaker,
I,
I
I
would
say
that
we're
not
doing
what
the
feds,
but
the
federal
government
did
were
actually
integrating
a
plan,
we're
not
talking
about
doing
selling
of
land
or
actually
trying
to
actually
integrate
a
plan
to
create
an
enable
city
building
and
actually
do
the
most
we
can
for
the
community.
So.
P
N
P
P
C
You
speaker
through
to
the
cheek,
whipped
officer,
I
I,
take
it
today
we're
talking
about
centralizing
services.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
reviewing
the
delegation
authority,
but
I
guess
we're
going
to
take
people
and
facilities
and
put
them
in
pool
in
one
place
to
become
more
efficient.
Is
that
correct
to.
C
The
other
criticism,
I,
guess
of
any
big
government-
and
why
would
this
city
be
no
different,
is
that
we
often
are
in
those
situations
where
we've
got
lots
of
moving
parts
in
an
organization
this
big
and
the
joke
is,
is
the
left
hand
doesn't
talk
to
the
right,
and
sometimes
we
make
a
transaction
over
here?
That
the
other
hand
didn't
know
about?
Is
the
intensivists
organization
to
try
to
solve
that
issue
by
centralizing
some
of
the
decision-making?
That
would
happen
at
the
board.
C
Me
a
little
bit
about
the
mechanism
below
the
board
that
will
deal
with
the
strategic
focus.
The
cross-divisional
cross
organisation,
cross
client
focus
that
will
actually
be
the
magic
that
makes
this
happen
and
and
it's
not
only
the
decision-making
in
the
strategic
direction.
But
how
will
the
internal
policy
when
it
comes
to
real
estate
and
real
estate
standards
and
approaches
to
it
be
governed
within
the
organization
before
it
makes
it
to
the
board
level
for
a
decision
through.
P
The
speaker,
we
actually
have
a
management
framework-
that's
actually
spoken
to
in
the
actual
report,
and
the
management
framework
is
taking
citywide
all
programs,
agencies,
corpse
and
divisions
and
creating
two
to
three
actual
specific
types
of
committees.
One
is
for
the
programs
and
the
real
estate
organization
to
work
together
to
look
at
opportunities
and
working
cohesively,
integrated
together
and
and
that's,
and
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
chaired
by
the
CCO
and
the
CEO,
the
structure
of
the
agency.
P
We
also
have
another
structure
that
we're
putting
in
place
with
this
would
city
with
the
city
planner,
as
well
as
with
the
Economic
Development,
Group
and
other
stakeholders,
to
look
at
opportunities
to
unlock
land
value
and
also
get,
and
also
an
able
to
get
rid
of
barriers
that
we
may
have
within
the
city
itself.
Getting
stuff
done,
and
the
last
thing
is
actually
the
actual
city,
our
real
estate
groups,
the
ones
that
are
coming
together,
creating
that
best-in-class
lifecycle
management
of
assets
group
and
that's
how
we're
going
to
create
that
glue.
C
Question
is
that
City
counselors
I
mean
we
tend
to
get
our
hands
into
everything,
specifically,
if
there's
a
transaction
in
a
ward.
It's
no
surprise
that
local
councilors
around
asking
questions
may
be
going
to
those
individual
boards.
What
vision
do
you
have
in
the
way
that
this
organization
will
interact
with
individual
councillors?
You
know
I
will
temper
that
with
there's,
probably
a
balance
in
connecting
with
a
counselor,
but
not
having
that
counselor
the
ability
to
overreach
and
create
some
firewall
and
some
independence
for
this
organization
to
remain
strategic.
C
P
The
speaker,
in
actual
fact,
we
have
a
client
relationship
management
role
that
is
part
of
this
operating
arms.
This
client
management
relationship
role
will
actually
work
with
counselors,
as
well
as
program
owners
to
be
able
to
understand
the
requirements
from
from
the
perspective
of
the
program
and
from
obviously
the
word
counselors,
and
look
at
that
against
the
overall
integrated
plan
that
it's
going
to
be
putting
together
and
what's
important
here
is
the
you
know,
the
Golden
Nugget
ears
actually
develop.
That
plan
up
front.
Look
at
that
and
harmonize
it
across
the
city.
P
So
we
don't
get
into
those
situations
that
you
talked
about,
that
there
is
agreement
as
to
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
and
what
we're
not
going
to
be
doing,
but
that
will
be
that
will
be
done
in
consultation
with
across
the
organization.
So
the
first
year,
in
actual
fact,
is
building
that
integrated
plan
that
is
integrated,
harmonized
and
actually
looking
at
potential
duplications
and
that
we
can
actually
leverage
as
an
organization
across
organization
opportunities
to
actually
get
more
effectiveness
in
how
we
use
even
our
resources.
Overall,
okay,.
C
And
last
question:
we
talked
about
cab,
the
role
of
counsel
has
idling
oversight.
Do
you
see
any
other
roles
for
counsel
with
respect
to
this
organization?
We
become
decision-makers
for
certain
types
of
transactions.
Would
we
approve
business
plans
or
certain
policies?
Where
do
you
see
us
fitting
in
and
how
autonomous
will
this
entity
be
from
us?
So.
P
Through
the
speaker,
there
is
a
page
here
that
actually
articulates
in
the
report:
actual
councils,
accountability
and
basically
Council
will
approve
the
overall
long
term
plan.
The
overall
portfolio
plan
Council
will
be
seeing
transactions
that
are
related
to
specific,
complex
building
transactions
and
certain
transactions
they
see
today.
They'll
approve
the
budget
itself
and
they'll.
Also
council
will
also
be
approving
the
CEO
ratify
the
CEO
appointment
for
the
agency,
also,
which
is
a
bit
different
than
what
we
have
today.
Okay,.