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City Council, meeting 45, August 20, 2018 - Part 1 of 2
Agenda and background materials:
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Part 2 of 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a36rqMREgEM#t=10m59s
Meeting Navigation:
0:21:22 - Call to order
A
C
A
We
acknowledge
the
land
we
are
meeting
on
is
the
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit
Anishinaabe,
the
Chippewa,
the
Hutt
nashoni
and
the
wind-up
people,
and
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
First,
Nations,
Inuit
and
maytee
peoples.
We
also
acknowledge
that
Toronto
is
covered
by
the
treaty
13
with
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit
for
the
benefit
of
those
who
are
connected
to
the
Internet.
The
city
clerk
has
posted
all
of
the
agenda
materials
for
today's
meeting
at
WWF
CA,
slash
council.
A
This
special
meatiness
of
council
scheduled
for
the
following
purposes
to
consider
the
city,
solicitors
report
from
item
CC
45-point,
one
on
legal
options
to
challenge
bill,
5
the
bettor
Local
Government,
Act
2018,
and
to
introduce
and
enact
general
bills
and
to
introduce
and
enact
a
confirming
bill
for
this
special
meeting
members
of
council.
This
is
a
as
this
is
a
special
meeting
under
council
procedures.
No
new
business
items
such
as
notice
notices,
emotions
may
be
introduced.
This
rule
cannot
be
waived.
D
Good
morning,
madam
Speaker
and
I
wanted
to
take
a
moment
before
the
meeting
proceeds,
especially
to
address
the
public
in
the
gallery
and
those
following
at
home
too.
What
is
about
to
happen,
because
there's
been
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
about
this
over
the
last
number
of
days
today,
as
you
mentioned,
madam
Speaker,
we
have
convened
a
special
session
of
the
council
in
response
to
the
introduction
of
new
provincial
legislation
that
cuts
the
size
of
the
City
Council
to
25.
Every
single
person
in
this
room
takes
their
duty
to
the
people
of
Toronto
seriously.
D
D
D
This
fall
so
we're
going
to
discuss
our
city's
options
in
relation
to
the
legal
advice
the
city
solicitor
has
provided
and
will
provide
an
answer
to
questions
today
and
then
we're
going
to
come
back
to
public
session
to
decide
on
motions
that
will
direct
our
city's
response
to
this
legislation.
The
city
of
Toronto
is
home
to
nearly
3
million
people.
D
E
Right,
thank
you.
Speaker
I
have
two
petitions
I'd
like
to
submit
first
I'm,
rising
to
deliver
the
signatures
of
1884
residents
from
war
20,
who
are
opposed
to
Ford's
bill
5
and,
secondly,
I'm
rising
to
deliver
the
signatures
of
535
additional
residents
from
war
20,
who
are
asking
the
mayor
and
city
council
to
stand
up
today
to
vote
against
bill
5
and
to
pursue
legal
action.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
have
a
petition
from
1084
residents
from
Etobicoke
were
opposed
to
bill
5
and
I'll
paraphrase
a
little
bit
of
the
rest
of
the
text.
It
says
they
want
the
premier
to
refrain
from
using
his
powers,
premier
by
quote
messing
with
Toronto's
political
system
in
the
middle
of
an
election,
and
they
want
end
of
quote
and
they
want
the
premier
to
keep
his
hands
off
Toronto.
The
second
one
is
282
residents,
also
from
Etobicoke
asking
Mara,
Tory
and
Toronto
City
Council
to
vote
today
to
stand
up
to
the
province.
F
Speaker
I
have
two
petitions
against
from
your
forwards
bill:
five
from
Ward
22,
one
of
which
is
of
262
residents
from
or
22
who
are
asking
meritorious
Rono
City
Council
to
vote
today
to
stand
up
to
Doug
Ford
and
oppose
bill.
5
I
have
another
one
which
I'm
rising
to
deliver
the
signatures
of
865
residents
from
Ward
22,
who
are
opposed
to
bill
5
and
would
like
Toronto
City
Council
to
take
a
strong
challenging
course.
F
G
You
speaker
and
good
morning,
I
rise
with
two
petitions.
The
first
is
1141
residents
of
Ward
14,
who
are
opposed
to
bill
five
and
the
second
is
307
residents
from
Ward
14
that
include
the
following:
dear
merit,
Orion
councillors,
I
am
writing
to
us
that
Monday's
meeting
item
CC
45
point
one
that
I
vote
up.
I
stand
up
and
against
Doug
Ford
by
voting
and
encouraging
other
councillors
to
vote
for
the
city
to
defend
itself
and
challenge
bill.
Five
in
court.
H
A
H
You,
madam
Speaker,
speaker
and
good
morning.
Everyone
ice
proudly
stand
this
morning
to
present
two
petitions
from
Ward
13
soon-to-be,
Ward
17.
The
first
one
I
have
is
that
that
Ford
should
stop
abusing
his
powers
as
a
premier
and
basically,
as
councillor
Campbell
says,
residents
wanted
to
keep
his
hands
off.
Toronto
for
this
I
have
800
in
County
two
signatures.
Councillor.
I
A
A
H
J
You
very
much
madam
Speaker
and
I'm
rising
on
behalf
of
the
constituents
in
war.
2811,
sorry
1141
residents
from
war
28,
who
are
opposed
to
mr.
Ford's
bill
5.
They
want
mr.
Ford
to
stop
abusing
his
power
as
premiered
by
messing
with
trials
political
system
in
the
middle
of
an
election
that
they
want.
Mr.
four
to
keep
his
hands
off.
Toronto
I'm
also
rising
madam
Speaker
to
deliver
the
signatures
of
1513
residents
from
war
27,
who
are
opposed
to
mr.
forts
bill.
Five
and
I
won't
read
that
again,
but
that's
two
petitions
right
there.
J
The
third
pathetic
petition,
madam
speaker,
is
I'm
rising
to
deliver
the
signatures
of
752
residents
from
war,
27
and
28,
who
are
asking
Meritor,
II
and
trial
City
Council
to
stand
up
to
mr.
Doug
fort.
They
are
including
and
they're
asking
us
for
the
following:
dear
merit:
Orion
councillors,
I'm
writing
to
ask
that
on
monday's
meeting
you
vote
to
stand
up
to
mr.
Doug
Ford's
by
voting
and
encouraging
the
other
councillors
to
vote
for
and
the
city
to
defend
itself
in
challenge
bill
five
in
court.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
F
K
K
Toronto
I
also
have
a
petition
from
the
residents
of
Ward
32
1092,
who
say
the
same
thing,
stop
messing
with
Toronto
and
the
third
one
is
from
residents
427
residents
in
wards,
31
and
32,
who
are
calling
on
mayor,
Tory
and
Toronto
City
Council,
to
vote
today
to
stand
up
to
Doug
Ford
and
to
defend
itself
and
challenge
bill
five
in
court.
Thank
you.
That's
a
total
of
1996
Thank.
L
You
madam
Speaker
I,
have
two
sets
of
petitions
as
well:
first
set
from
323
members
residents
of
Scarborough
who
are
opposed
to
premium
Ford's
bill
5.
They
want
premier
to
stop
abusing
his
powers
as
a
premium
by
messing
with
Turner's
political
system
in
the
middle
of
an
election,
and
they
warn
premium
Ford
to
keep
his
hands
off.
Toronto.
That's
323
from
Scarborough
and
I
also
have
275
more
petitions
from
Scarborough
asking
the
mayor
and
the
City
Council
to
what
today
to
stand
up
to
doc
Ford's
bill
5.
L
M
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
Speaker
I
have
several
petitions
here
that
I'd
like
to
present.
They
are
similar
to
the
previous
ones,
but
I
think
are
given
that
they've
signed
them.
It
so
they're
worth
the
reading
out
from
the
good
residents
of
a
Ward
21
1289
residents
from
war
21
who
are
opposed
to
bill
five.
They
want
afford
to
stop
abusing
his
power
as
premier
by
messing
with
Toronto's
political
system
in
the
middle
of
an
election,
and
they
want
the
premier
to
keep
his
hands
off
a
Toronto.
That's
a
twelve
hundred
and
eighty-nine
signatures.
M
I
have
a
similar,
a
petition
from
937
residents
from
Midtown
in
North
York,
who
are
asking
our
mayor
and
city
council
to
vote
today
to
stand
up
to
to
Doug
Ford
and
they
include
in
the
in
their
correspondence
of
the
following
dear
mayor,
Tory
and
councillors.
I
am
writing
to
ask
that
at
Monday's
meeting
you
vote
to
stand
up
to
Doug
Ford
by
voting
for
and
encouraging
other
councillors
to
vote
for
the
city
to
defend
itself
in
challenge
bill
five
in
court.
M
That's
those
are
those
petitions
and
I
also
have
put
similar
petitions
from
the
good
residents
of
Ward
eleven
and
twelve.
Two
hundred
and
sixty-eight
signatures
from
wards
1516
695
signatures
from
Ward
24
153
signatures
and
from
wards
33
and
34
277
signatures
all
saying,
basically,
the
same
thing.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
K
A
I
A
I
B
Thank
You
speaker,
I
too,
have
a
heavy
petition
and
it's
good
to
see
that,
while
I've
been
out
talking
to
people
about
how
to
end
the
tyranny
that
is
in
Ward,
7
known
as
mammal
et,
some
other
folks
have
been
out
there
actually
getting
petition
sign
that
see.
That
read
as
follows
that
they
want
Ford
to
stop
abusing
his
power
as
premier
by
meeting
by
messing
with
Toronto's
political
system
in
the
middle
of
an
election,
and
they
want
premier
Ford
to
keep
his
hands
off.
Toronto
and
I
submit
it
speaker.
I
A
C
Orion
councillors
I'm
writing
to
ask
that
at
Monday's
meeting
items,
CC
45
point
1,
you
vote
to
stand
up
to
Doug
Ford
by
voting
for
and
encouraging
other
councillors
to
vote
for
the
city
to
defend
itself
and
challenge
bill
5
in
court
I.
Also
on
behalf
of
my
seat,
mate
and
Oh
who's
asked
me
to
do
these
because
he's
shy.
Let's
count
sir
Burnside
raising
today
to
deliver
the
signatures
of
531
residents
from
wards
25
and
26,
who
are
opposed
to
bill
5
and
again.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker
I
rise
today
to
deliver
the
signatures
of
4522
residents
from
Ward
19
and
across
the
GTA
who
are
opposed
to
bill
5.
They
want
Ford
to
stop
abusing
his
power
as
premier
by
messing
with
Toronto's
political
system
in
the
middle
of
an
election,
and
they
want
Ford
to
keep
his
hands
off.
Toronto
I
have
a
second
petition
signed
by
842
individuals
from
Ward
Ward
19
and
across
the
beach,
the
GTA,
who
are
asking
merit,
Orion,
Toronto
City
Council,
to
vote
today
to
stand
up
to
Doug
Ford
they
all.
D
A
I
Speaker
during
the
last
week,
the
premier
had
suggested
that
we
try
and
deal
with
the
guns
and
gangs
issues
at
this
particular
meeting.
Instead,
we've
chosen
to
move
forward
with
the
don't
touch
my
electorate,
the
political
job
whining
session
today.
Is
it
appropriate
for
me
to
actually
move
adjournment
so
that
we
can
deal
with
guns
and
gangs
instead
of
crying
about
our
jobs,
how's.
A
A
I
A
A
We
we
will
now
review
and
confirm
the
order
paper
once
the
order
paper
has
been
approved
by
council.
Any
change
will
need
a
two-thirds
vote.
We
have
one
item
before
us:
the
city,
solicitor
and
the
city
clerk
have
also
submitted
supplemental
reports
on
this
item.
Those
reports
were
to
were
distributed
to
you
on
Friday.
No
other
business
can
be
added
to
this
meeting
we
are
scheduled
to
meet
in
2a
p.m.
tonight.
Council
will
reconvene
more
at
9:30
a.m.
if
necessary,
all
those
in
favor
of
adopting
the
order
paper
recorded
vote.
A
E
A
Before
we
start,
I
I
just
want
to
make
a
few
comments.
I
appreciate
how
passionate
many
of
us
are
in
this
room
and
feel
about
this
issue
and
its
impact
on
our
city.
I
would
like
to
start
by
reminding
everyone
to
be
respectful
of
each
other
and
the
senior
staff
that
are
here
today
as
we
consider
this
item.
I
would
also
like
to
express
my
thanks
to
the
city,
solicitor
and
city
clerk
for
their
hard
work
in
delivering
these
reports.
Under
short
timelines.
A
The
city
clerk
is
in
a
difficult
position
as
bill
five
received
Royal
Assent
on
August
14,
and
she
is
legally
required
to
implement
225
Ward
model
in
the
2008
team
in
this
collection.
At
this
point,
as
a
result,
motions
giving
instructions
to
the
city
clerk
on
the
election
are
not
in
order
as
the
clerk
administers
the
election
in
accordance
with
the
Municipal
Elections
Act,
without
the
involvement
of
City
Council.
Now,
let's
turn
to
debate
on
the
item
before
us
so
question:
sister
CalPERS,
Thank.
G
You
speaker
on
a
point
of
order,
I've
spoken
to
the
mayor
and
numerous
members
of
council
and
today
and
in
the
days
leading
up
to
this,
the
issues
we
have
in
front
of
us.
Some
of
them
are
public.
Some
of
them
are
private
and
all
of
them
are
entwined
in
some
meetings
of
council.
We
have
have
begun
in
private.
The
public
session
allowed
questions
in
public
session
to
establish
an
information
we
need
to
go
in
private,
going
in
private
and
then
come
back
out
and
continued
in
public
session.
G
M
B
P
P
The
people
of
the
City
of
Toronto
deserve
a
right
to
understand
the
legal
opinions
and
the
comments
that
have
been
given
us
to
us
by
staff
and
I
believe
that
this
report
itself
now
could
be
out
in
the
public
and
I
would
like
to
deal
with
it
as
such
in
the
public
and
I
would
then
move
a
motion
that
the
report
then
be
put
in
public
if
that's
appropriate.
So
we
can
have
one
round
of
questions
and
people
can
understand
our
questions
and
the
advice
that
we're
being
given.
H
A
G
You,
speaker
and
and
while
I
agree
with
councillor
shiner,
that
the
report
is
public
and
our
advice
to
the
the
clerk
and
and
the
solicitor
at
the
end
of
the
day
should
be
made
public.
There
are
questions
about
the
legal
strategy
that
we
might
want
to
pursue.
There
are
questions
about
the
risk
of
different
options
of
the
legal
strategy
we
might
want
to
pursue.
G
There's
advice
we
might
want
to
get
on
what
directions
to
give
the
solicitor
that
we
do
not
want
the
province
of
Ontario
to
know
at
this
point,
so
my
very
strong
feeling
is
that
we
proceed.
As
you
said
in
the
beginning,
we
have
questions
in
the
public
session.
Then
we
go
in-camera
to
ask
for
that.
Sensitive
and
confidential
advice,
not
Direction
advice
about
what
pathway
is
most
effective,
and
then
we
come
back
out
in
public
session
at
that
time.
I
I
I
too,
would
agree
with
counselors
shiners
motion
and
would
be
supporting
it.
You
just
need
to
read
the
paper
and
and
and
I
think
most
people
here
have
read
the
report
and
I
think
most
people
here
understand
where
the
legal
advice
is
going
with
us
and
I
think
most
people
here
are
ready
with
their
motions
anyway
and
I.
I
Think
most
people
here
want
to
just
move
on
move
your
motions
and
and
and
and
and
and
deal
with
them
here
on
the
council
floor,
so
that
everybody
in
this
city
can
can
find
out
what
that's
about
I
think
moving
into
camera
may
be
necessary
if
you've
got
something
up
your
sleeve,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
think
that
the
the
public
should
should
hear
right
away
what
those
motions
are
and
let's
deal
with
it.
Let's
just
move
on
to
this
election.
O
P
Madam
Speaker,
my
motion
was
that
the
report
become
public
and
we
ask
our
questions
in
public,
but
it
doesn't
prevent
us
if
this
council
is
so
wish
later
to
have
an
in-camera
session.
I
never
said
that
we
never
go
in-camera,
but
there's
a
report
that's
already
out
in
the
media
and
its
public,
and
we
want
to
ask
questions
as
to
what
it
says
and
the
people
of
Toronto
deserve
at
least
to
understand.
P
A
P
C
Number
one
I
will
go
like
to
go
in
to
camera
and
get
advice
from
the
clerk
and
determine
a
direction
from
the
amount
of
in
advice
the
clerk
has
given
us
saying
you
can
do
this
or
that
I
think
I'm
happy
to
hear
from
the
clerk
after
we're
finished
in-camera.
If
this
report
can
be
public,
that
is
what
we
often
do.
C
So
I
don't
understand
why
counselors
Scheiner
feels
that
he
has
to
change
the
direction
that
we
just
said
earlier
in
the
day,
madam
Speaker,
that
you
set
yourself
here
and
I
think
the
good
people
of
Toronto
would
like
to
make
sure
we're
making
well-considered
decisions
and
they
know
how
things
work
at
the
city.
What
they'd
really
like
is
I
won't
say
what
they'd
really
like
a
speaker,
but
thank.
A
Q
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
just
rise
to
support
councilor
shiners
motion
as
well
to
make
this
report
public
this
report
is,
is
not
heavy.
It
is
clear
and
plain
and
I
am
convinced
that
the
information
here
is
something
that
would
that
would
benefit
the
public
and
would
be
very
quickly
well
known.
Should
council
select
to
give
the
solicitor
direction,
it
would
be
all
become
very
apparent
immediately
and
so
therefore,
I
don't
see,
there's
a
heavy
reason
for
us
to
keep
it
secret.
It
should
be
out
you
open,
and
it
should
inform
our
debate
today.
Thank
you.
J
You
very
much
madam
Speaker
I
rise
to
express
my
opposition
to
having
this
debate
in
public
at
this
particular
point
in
time.
The
subject
matter
before
us
is
is
about
solicitor,
client,
privilege
and
often
times.
We
have
stayed
in
camera
to
discuss
sensitive
matters,
whether
it's
human
resources,
employment
relations
and
any
other
type
of
matters,
especially
pertaining
to
legal
matters
and
pending
legal
challenges.
It
is
concerning
madam
Speaker
that
the
the
media
has
already
seen
perhaps
a
copy
of
this
document.
J
It
is
concerning
to
me,
madam
Speaker,
because
that's
that
means
that
somebody
here
would
have
leaked
that
document
already
to
the
media,
working
against
the
city's
interests,
working
against
councils
interests
and
working
against
the
interests
of
the
public
and
that
to
me,
ma'am
Aker
is
probably
one
of
the
more
dangerous
things
that
have
already
taken
place.
I've
spoken
to
a
number
of
lawyers,
whether
it's
lawyers
that
are
working
towards
supporting
the
legal
injunction
lawyers
who
are
working
our
charter
challenge.
J
J
K
Speaker,
I
too
rise
to
oppose
counselor
shiners
motion.
Why
in
the
world,
would
we
give
away
our
legal
strategy
before
we
even
begin?
That
is
why
we
have
to
hear
this
and
have
questions
in
private
so
that
we
can
get
a
better
and
deeper
understanding
of
the
advice
that
is
contained
in
what
is
actually
a
very
short
report
and
why
we
would
ever
allow
our
opponents
to
have
access
to
our
legal
advice
is
beyond
me.
I
think
the
motion
to
make
this
public
is
about
sabotaging
sabotaging
the
city's
position,
and
that
is
unethical.
H
Thank
to
you
male
speaker,
I
will
actually
be
very
quick.
There
was
another
supplementary
report
with
a
purple
paper,
provided
us
on
Friday.
Whoever
gave
our
purple
papers
to
a
toronto
star
failed
to
give
that
one.
We
may
have
private
questions
on
that.
So
therefore
I
do
support
going
in
camera.
We
will
see
at
that
point
in
time
if
we
want
to
release
everything
to
the
public.
Thank
you.
Thank
You.
M
You
councillor
Kirk's
had
it
right.
Obviously,
we
need
to
be
able
to
go
in-camera
to
determine
what
our
strategy
is
away
from
the
eye
of
the
province
who,
who
we
may
it
will
be
I,
hope
opposing
on
this,
and
we
can
after
we.
If
the
motion
carries,
we
won't
be
able
to
get
that
legal
advice
in
camera
and
that's
certainly
not
about
transparency.
The
only
transparent
thing
about
it
is
it's
a
rather
transparent
attempt
to
cozy
up
to
mr.
Doug
Ford.
E
To
ask
questions
of
staff
in
my
mind,
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
agreement
with
respect
to
the
the
right
of
the
premier
to
do
what
he
is
doing.
The
question
is
really
implementation
and
whether
we
can
actually
affect
the
implementation
process,
and
now
that's
really
what
the
the
strategy
is
around.
That
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
right
of
the
premier
to
do
what
he's
doing
so.
In
that
context,
I
think
we
need
to
ask
staff
what
strategy
must
may
be
appropriate
in
terms
of.
B
My
preference
would
be
to
consider
this
question
after
we
can't
come
out
of
camera,
and
we
asked
our
question
and
and
and
so
I
would
be.
Okay
with
that
and
I
have
I've
only
had
a
brief
conversation
with
the
clerk
I'm
just
wondering.
If
is
there
a
motion
that
could
be
considered
that
wouldn't
that
would
in
fact
operationalize
that,
so
we
could
go
into
camera
without
making
the
report
public
and
then
just
consider
this
after
we
come
out
of
camera
on.
B
A
Okay,
so,
okay,
so
the
motion
that
we
have
before
us
now
is
that
counter
shiner
is
asking
that
the
confidential
report
be
made
public
now
and
definitely
Merriman
and
while
you're
suggesting
after
we
come
out
of
camera,
so
that
so
yeah.
So
the
thing
is,
is
that
you
can't
amend
the
motion.
So
if
that's
what
the
wish
I'm,
because
if
you
amended
oh.
G
A
A
A
B
A
C
Thank
you,
I'm,
just
questioning
on
this
public
report
that
we
have
err.
Cc,
45
and
I
just
want
to
be
really
clear
about
bill.
Five
eliminates
the
city's
authority
to
establish
divided
Rida,
vide
or
configure
its
wards
and
sets
the
number
of
counselors
at
twenty
five,
so
just
to
be
clear.
I
guess
it'll
be
from
the
city
solicitor
that
that
has
been
eliminated
from
our
wheelhouse.
Essentially,
yes,.
N
C
C
There's
a
City
of
Toronto
act
itself,
and
when
was
that
that
was
undertaken
under
the
miller
government
in
negotiations
with
Queens
Park,
it's
a
pretty
substantive
act.
Is
it
not?
Yes,
it
is
that
gives
us
fairly
wide-ranging
powers
that
acknowledge
the
fact
that
were
a
mature
city
with
a
mature
level
of
government
through.
N
C
N
You,
madam
Speaker,
the
City
of
Toronto
Act,
speaks
to
a
commitment
to
consult
on
issues
of
significance
to
the
city
and
to
the
province
and
also
refers
to
an
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
province
which,
following
enactment
of
the
City
of
Toronto
Act,
was
was
written
and
entered
into
between
the
city
and
the
province
for
the
purpose
of
putting
a
framework
around
the
consultation
process.
So.
C
Just
while
you're
here
we
had
to
establish
our
awards,
we
were
under
a
lot
of
pressure
from
you
actually
to
establish
our
new
wards
before
2018,
in
order
to
be
legal
for
the
2018
election
as
I
recall.
Is
that
why
we,
you
urged
us
to
have
our
decision
in
2017
or
2016
and
to
make
any
other
decisions
that
would
enable
you
to
have
this
legal
framework
for
the
election.
Yes,.
C
I
S
Madam
Speaker,
we
have
had
extensive
consultation
with
all
of
our
partners.
We
have
had
discussions
with
the
ministry.
We
have
had
extensive
discussions
and
received
phenomenal
support
from
Elections
Ontario,
who
provided
us
with
with
information
on
the
basis
of
the
25
jurisdiction
model.
We
had
support
from
all
of
our
various
partners
impact,
notably
we
had
support
from
our
vendor,
and
certainly
our
IT
people
have
been
phenomenal
and
I
can't
thank
them
enough.
We've
also
had
support
from
all
of
our
staff,
our
incredibly
hard-working
and
diligent
city
staff
and
election
staff,
to
make
this
okay.
L
S
I
S
I
S
I
N
J
I
I
So
we
went
from
moving
with
47
councilors
and
within
a
month
or
so
we
are
now
looking
at
an
election
of
25
and
we
are.
We
are
ready
to
go
with
an
election
if
we
stall
here
at
the
City
of
Toronto,
by
using
whatever
mechanism
some
people
might
want
we're
gonna
go
right
back
to
the
square
one,
how
how
much
more
difficult
might
that
be
if
this
thing
takes
another
month
and
can
we
run
an
election?
If
that's
the
case,
I.
I
S
A
E
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
there
was
a
long
process
leading
up
to
the
passage
of
the
forty-seven
board
structure.
We
we
had
a
four
year
study
process
with
outside
consultants.
They
made
recommendations
to
this
body.
This
body
sent
them
back
again
and
again
for
further
study
and
review.
Ultimately,
in
November
of
2016,
this
body
adopted
a
47
Ward
structure.
The
bills
were
passed
in
April
of
2017.
E
E
K
K
K
E
K
We
have
been
awarded
I
believe,
or
at
least
recognized
for
all
of
the
accessibility
elements.
In
our
elections
we
have
used
accessible
communication
strategies,
we
have
done
outreach,
we
have
had
extensive,
advanced
polling,
we
have
ensured
all
of
those
accessibility
elements
are
Matt.
Will
they
be
met
in
this
25
Ward
model.
T
Through
this
speaker,
one
of
the
key
principles
that
we're
required
to
uphold
when
administering
a
municipal
election
is
that
it
must
be
accessible
to
voters.
So
when
we
looked
at
moving
to
a
25
word
option,
one
of
the
key
components
that
we
wanted
to
assure
ourselves
of
is
that
we
would
still
be
able
to
meet
our
accessibility
standards
and
we
certainly
plan
to
do
so.
Thank.
H
N
H
Before
bill
five,
does
the
province
say
anywhere?
How
often
a
city
must
review
Ward
boundaries
or
how
many
residents
should
be
within
award?
Do
they?
Is
there
anything
out
there
or
was
there
anything
out
there?
There
is
nothing
in
the
legislation.
No,
so
they
don't
say
to
us.
When
you
get
to
a
hundred
and
ten
one
hundred
and
nine
thousand
residents,
you
must
be
establish
and
we
change
your
boundaries.
H
N
H
H
S
H
S
H
H
H
S
H
T
Through
the
speaker,
we
were
planning
on
releasing
the
voters
list
to
candidates
on
September
4th
the
reason
that
we
get
it
from
impact
on
July
31st
is
we
require
a
lot
of
cleaning
off
the
list
before
it's
ready
for
public
consumption,
so
we
go
through
it
and
remove
deceased
electors
duplicate
records.
That
kind
of
thing
Thank,
You.
R
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Through
you
to
staff
during
the
word
boundary
review
was
repeatedly.
We
were
repeatedly
reminded
of
carter
versus
saskatchewan,
which
coined
the
phrase
effective
representation.
Now
it
seems
to
me
the
first
condition
of
the
courts
is
voter
parity,
equal
number
of
voters
in
each
electoral
district.
But
then
the
decision
goes
on
to
talk
about
communities
of
interests,
community
history,
minority
representation
and
projected
population.
Growth
is
also
criteria
under
the
25
ward
system.
Are
we
meeting
the
supreme
court
guidelines
that
we
were
told
repeatedly
during
board
boundary
review
that
we
had
to.
R
Don't
know
how
big
that
team
is,
but
if
you
look
at
municipalities
across
the
Western
world,
there
are
dozens
of
different
formulations
of
representation,
they're
rarely
refuted
to
refer
to
as
city
councillors.
Actually
there's
a
wide
range
of
references.
This
legislation
talks
about
city
councillors.
Did
anyone
ever
talk
about
the
the
borough
president
model
in
New
York
City,
a
community
council
elected
chair
councillors
at
large,
but
not
called
councillors
representatives
at
large?
Did
we
explore
added
representation
in
in
a
formula
that
that
actually
does
not
violate
the
legislation
so.
T
Through
the
speaker
councillor,
we
have
looked
historically
when
we
do
governance,
research
in
the
city,
manager's
office,
at
other
governance
options
and
opportunities
like
the
way
that
they
organize
themselves
in
New,
York,
City
and
London
I
mean
to
do
any
level
of
deep
analysis
or
research
really
needs
to
be
part
of
an
overarching
governance
review
and
the
last
time
the
city
did
a
governance
review.
We
did
look
at
some
of
those
options,
but
at
that
time
they
weren't
pursued
further
would.
R
Thought
that's
all
we're
talking
about
is
elected
representatives
and
our
electoral
system,
but
another
question:
the
federal
electoral
boundaries
Commission
and
the
electoral
boundaries
Readjustment
Act
sets
the
numbers
of
federal
ridings.
If
they
decide
to
go
up
by
five
in
in
the
future
or
six
or
seven
or
ten,
would
we
automatically
follow
suit,
since
federal
War
boundaries
seems
to
be
the
calling
of
the
day.
R
R
My
next
question
is
for
the
clerk
candidates.
Hundreds
of
them
across
the
city
have
been
promised
Ward
lists,
I,
guess
electoral
lists
in
the
in
the
combined
formula,
I
guess
of
25.
You
can
promise
lists
and
maps
by
I.
Don't
September
1st
is
what
let's
come
across.
Is
that
realistic
to
have
all
of
that
ready
for
all
registered
candidates
by
September?
The
1st.
S
R
S
R
J
You
very
much
madam
Speaker
just
to
to
clarify,
because
I've
heard
a
number
of
years
and
and
the
consultation
process
being
given
assigned
different
amounts
of
time.
Is
it
true
that,
from
start
to
finish,
the
Toronto
Ward
boundary
review
took
approximately
five
years
before
we
concluded
with
a
forty
seven
word
option.
E
J
T
Through
the
speaker
for
the
word
boundary
review,
we
had
an
internal
staff
steering
committee
that
we
worked
with
closely.
We
met
the
consultants
on
a
monthly
basis,
essentially
really
to
give
them
access
to
city
information
that
they
required
to
do
their
study.
In
addition,
they
had
an
external
expert
panel
that
they
use
to
bounce
ideas
off
of
that
included,
academics,
municipal
lawyers
and
other
electoral
experts,
so.
J
This
third
party,
independent
reviewer,
had
internal
advisory
panel
as
well
as
an
external
advisory
panel
with
subject
matter.
Experts,
that's
correct,
and-
and
is
it
true
that
they
held
over
100
face-to-face
meetings
with
various
members
of
counsel,
school
boards
and
other
stakeholder
groups,
as
well
as
twenty-four
public
meetings,
information
sessions
that
led
them
to
produce
seven
substance,
substantial
reports,
that's
correct
and,
and
each
one
of
those
reports,
I
guess
one
of
them
is
that
is
the
background
research
report
and
that
background
research
report.
J
T
Through
the
speaker
that
was
kind
of
their
kickoff
preliminary
foundation,
research
that
they
felt
was
important,
so
they
had
the
context
before
they
started
consultation
on
the
current
40
forward
model.
They
wanted
to
ensure
that
they
understood
our
history,
our
context,
so
that
they
were
well-versed
and
had
deep
expertise
and
knowledge
before
they
want
any
further.
Thank.
J
T
K
T
T
J
J
J
With
respect
to
the
and
those
are
very
interesting
answers,
but
with
respect
to
the
wolf,
because
it's
the
numbers
just
don't
add
up
so
that's
why
I'm,
asking
with
respect
to
the
additional
cost
of
City
of
Toronto
were
bare
because
of
the
change
to
the
electoral
process.
What
is
that
additional
costs
that
is
before
us
now
and
that
you
have
to
put
that
you
have
to
take
out
of
the
election
reserve
fund
in
order
for
us
to
change
the
elections
so
through.
T
The
speaker,
we
have
estimated
that,
in
order
to
move
to
a
twenty
five
word
model
this
late
in
the
election
process,
it
will
cost
as
approximately
2.5
million.
Above
and
beyond
our
approved
budget,
it
will
cost
us
approximately
an
additional
2.5
million,
above
and
beyond
our
already
approved
annual
budget
for
the
election.
Thank.
E
N
E
N
E
N
S
F
What
I
need
to
understand
from
you
is
if
the
fact
remains
that
council,
not
the
candidates
but
counsel
before
the
election
year,
already
directed
you
to
do
a
47
Ward
model
and
administer
a
47
Ward
election.
If
we
were
to
simply
tell
you
to
request
that
you
continue
that
as
an
option
so
that
if
we
are
successful
in
court
that
it
be
prepared
and
ready
to
go,
why
would
you
not
do
that
or
would
you
do
it.
T
Through
the
speaker,
counselor,
the
Municipal
Elections
Act
gives
counsel
very
limited
discretion
over
directing
the
clerk
in
undertaking
and
conducting
an
election.
We
took
extraordinary
efforts
in
order
to
develop
a
plan
that
we
can
implement
with
confidence
and
still
assure
the
integrity
of
our
election
in
the
last
few
weeks
on
a
25-word
basis.
I
think
our
report
before
you
today
was
quite
clear
in
that
we
would
find
it
incredibly
challenging
and
the
risks
will
be
substantial
for
us
to
then
revert
back
to
a
47.
In
the
event,
there
is
success.
F
I
appreciate
that
it
would
be
challenging
that
you
are
concerned
about
it,
but
as
the
representatives
of
Toronto,
if
we
decide
to
take
a
stand
to
challenge
premier
Ford
to
challenge
bill
five,
and
if
we
are
successful,
then
would
it
not
be
responsible,
at
the
very
least,
to
have
the
47
model
they're
ready
prepared
to
move
forward
with?
As
long
as
we
provide
you
the
resources
to
ensure
that
that
is
there
as
an
alternate
option.
N
F
By
the
way,
if
I
can
just
add
on
to
that,
we
are
not.
We
would
not
in
that
motion
in
any
way
suggest
that
you
not
adhere
to
bill
five
fulfill
your
responsibilities
under
the
Act.
What
we
would
be
saying
to
you
is
continue
the
work
that
this
council
already
requested,
that
you
do
to
have
it
prepared
for
the
possibility
of
a
successful
court
challenge
to
ensure
that
that
election
take
place.
S
Madam
Speaker,
there
simply
is
not
the
ability
with
the
integrity
and
security
of
the
election
principles
that
I
refer
to,
that
I
must
adhere
to
to
conduct
two
different
elections.
At
the
same
time,
we
further
risk
confusing
the
public,
confusing
candidates,
confusing
our
workers,
all
of
whom
need
to
be
trained
and
I
need
to
have
somewhere
in
the
order
of
16
or
17
thousand
people
ready
to
administer
an
election
on
October
they
well.
S
N
When
I
said
earlier,
that
council
lacks
authority
to
give
direction
to
the
City
Clerk
regarding
the
administration
of
the
election.
That
would
also
include
lacking
the
authority
to
give
direction
to
the
city
clerk
to
proceed
along
the
47
Ward
model
simultaneously
with
the
25
and
just
to
be
clear.
There's
been
some
suggestion
that
council
directed
the
clerk
to
prepare
for
the
election
with
47
wards.
What
counsel
actually
did
was
exercise
its
authority
under
the
City
of
Toronto
act,
as
it
then
was
to
establish
Ward
boundaries
and
the
composition
of
pencil.
F
T
Just
answer
them
through
the
speaker
so
councillor,
administering
an
election
of
the
magnitude,
size
and
complexity
of
Toronto
is
a
million
different
details
that
one
has
to
organize
and
oversee
and
administer,
and
we
don't
feel
that
we
have
the
capacity
to
be
administering
on
a
25-word
basis
in
such
compressed
timelines,
while
at
the
same
time
preparing
ourself
under
a
47,
because
the
geography
of
an
election
is
your
starting
point
for
all
your
other
planning
and
processes.
So
your
geography
becomes
your
fundamental
beginning
point
for
your
staffing
models.
T
Your
voting
places
your
warehouse
packing
your
distribution,
centers
everything.
So
in
order
to
plan
for
47,
while
you're
administering
a
25
would
essentially
be
doing
two
elections
at
one
time
in
order
to
get
1
million
little
details
organized
under
both
scenarios
and
get
ready
to
go
and
again.
In
our
view,
we
have
done
a
very
deep
dive
on
this.
We
appreciate
the
interest
of
this
council,
but
in
our
view
we
do
not
have
the
confidence
that
we
could
assure
the
integrity
to
do
that
at
this
moment
in
time,.
A
B
S
B
S
B
Now
the
purpose
of
the
Municipal
Elections
Act
is
to
ensure
that
the
integrity
in
the
confidence
of
the
electoral
process
is
not
compromising
anyway
and
in
your
report,
the
yellow
pages.
You
are
alluding
to
that
aspect.
If
there
was
a
change
between
the
25
and
the
47,
can
you
just
elaborate
to
that
aspect?
Please.
T
Through
the
speaker
councillor
when
the
when
bill
five
was
introduced
and
it
looked
like
there
may
be
a
move
to
a
25
word
model.
The
clerk
and
her
election
staff
took
extraordinary
efforts
over
a
very
short
period
of
time
to
develop
a
25
word
contingency
plan
that
we
feel
quite
confident
in
administering
if
we
reverted
back
to
a
47
model
in
the
event
that
the
court
challenge
was
successful,
our
view
is
that
we
do
not
have
sufficient
time
to
undertake
that
change
and
administer
the
election
with
confidence
and
integrity
on
October
22nd.
T
B
You
so
within
the
report.
You
are
stating
that
if
that
was
to
happen,
if
you
were
to
revert
back
to
the
40s
to
the
47th
model
and
that
that
will
compromise
and
will
create
an
anoxic
except
unacceptable
in
severe
and
civilian
demanded
trusts
or
the
world's
and
candidates
so
which
is
something
that's
not
quite
clear
and
the
public
has
every
right
to
understand.
T
Through
the
speaker
so
counselor,
when
we
have
undertaken
very
deep,
due
diligence
on
our
ability
to
revert
back
to
a
47
Ward
model-
and
there
are
many
steps
that
one
is
required
to
take
in
election
administration.
So
the
geography
of
your
election
is
your
foundation
for
all
of
your
other
planning
processes,
and
we
would
have
insufficient
time
to
change
all
those
processes,
particularly
related
to
ballot
production
quality.
We
quality
test
our
ballots
and
we
do
some
fairly
deep
analysis
to
ensure
the
accuracy
of
our
ballots.
We
have
a
complicated
ballot
or
a
big
city.
T
We
produce
over
2
million
ballots
and
if
we
reverted
back
to
a
47
that
would
be
235
different
ballot
styles,
that
is
a
very
complex
print
job
that
requires
a
lot
of
testing
and
quality
assurance
to
ensure
its
accuracy.
We
also
have
to
do
and
and
system
tests
of
all
of
our
information
technology
systems
that
support
the
election,
particularly
the
results
chain
for
results
on
election
night.
So
those
are
some
of
the
administrative
details
that
we
feel
in
a
47
model
reverted
back
this
late
in
the
game.
Q
T
Through
the
speaker,
the
costs
relate
to
overtime,
so
there
there
there
certainly
has
been
overtime
that
we've
had
to
assume.
In
the
last
three
weeks
in
developing
and
implementing
our
contingency
plan
to
move
to
a
twenty
five
word
model,
we
also
had
to
retain
and
extend
contracts
of
all
of
our
system.
Testers
again
we
have
a
fairly
complex
information
technology
system
that
supports
election
administration
and
they
all
underwent
privacy
impact
assessments,
vulnerable
of
risk
assessments
and
threat
risk
assessments.
So
some
of
that
we've
had
to
redo
because
we
had
to
recode
the
backend.
T
T
Q
Thank
you.
This
is
a
more
general
question
for
the
clerk
I
understand
that
a
couple
of
the
wards
in
the
city
currently
have
a
much
higher
population
I,
but,
and
and
would
you
agree
that
I
think
it's
the
material
online
says
Ward
20
and
wor
23
current
have
a
current
population
of
95,000
according
to
the
2016
census,.
Q
S
Q
Q
Would
it
be
fair
to
say
it
would
be
between
fifty
and
a
hundred
thousand
four
sounds
about
right?
Okay,
so
so
a
few
of
the
people
that
have
a
population
of
95,000
now
have
an
extra
constituency
system.
The
cost
of
that
is
between
fifty
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
each.
Can
you
tell
me:
is
there
a
general
planning
figure
for
the
cost
to
run
a
counselors
office,
including
the
administration
of
the
office,
the
staff,
the
counselor
themselves,
just
a
general
figure?
Is
it
a
million
dollars,
half
a
million,
just
a
planning
figure.
Q
You
I
think
my
next
question
is
for
the
solicitor
I
just
want
to
understand
better.
In
the
last
paragraph
of
the
first
report,
you
mentioned
a
court
challenge.
A
private
citizen
has
applied
to
the
courts,
I
guess
to
take
some
legal
action.
They've
named
this
as
a
respondent.
Can
anyone
give
me
some
sense
if
it's
being
heard
on
August
31st,
what
power
the
court
has
and
how
long
it
could
take
them
to
make
a
decision
on
this.
T
N
Already
involved
in
that
matter,
and
the
question
before
counsel
today
is
what
what
role
counsel
would
like
legal
services
to
take
the
the
hearing
is
scheduled
for
August
31st.
There
are
some
other
dates
ahead
of
that
for
materials
to
be
filed
and
we
have
materials
ready.
Should
we
be
instructed
to
file
them
the
the
court,
the
timing
that
the
court
will
take
to
deliver
a
decision
is
really
out
of
our
hands,
but
certainly
we
could
request
an
expedited
decision
are.
Q
N
L
You,
madam
Speaker,
to
you
to
the
clerk's
office
on
on
July
30th
on
Monday.
A
communication
was
sent
from
the
deputy
city
clerk,
saying
two
candidates
at
the
current
legislation.
At
that
time
not
bill.
Five
previous
legislation
would
be
followed
in
accordance
and
this
email
was
sent
to
all
the
candidates.
So
am
I
safe
to
assume
that
between
Monday
July
or
from
the
27th,
when
the
thought
was
happening,
till
August
14th
that
you
were
continuing
to
prepare
for
a
47
Ward
election.
T
L
Until
last
week
you
were
going
forward
with
47
no
I
want
to
I
want
to
understand
the
context
of
the
contingency
plan
that
you
had
when
I
heard.
At
one
point,
there
was
nothing
being
done
on
the
25
model
until
the
legislation
passed
and
then
there's
also
some
talk
about
some
work
being
done,
preparing
for
25
more
else.
What
how
long
ago
that
that
work
start
through.
T
The
speaker
so
counselor
when
bill
five
was
introduced
in
the
legislature.
My
staff
and
I
did
begin
some
fairly
intense
contingency
planning
right
away
and
have
continued
to
do
that
contingency
planning
over
the
last
three
weeks.
At
the
same
time,
while
we
continue
to
administer
the
election
under
47
and
ensured
that
we
secured
all
of
the
data
and
information
related
to
the
47,
while
we
started
to
move
forward
on
planning
on
a
25-word
basis,
so.
L
During
the
time
when
bill
five
was
not
low,
contingency
plan
was
happening.
How
is
this
any
different
from
what
Council
of
matter
was
asking
when
a
contingency
plan
for
the
other
model
still
continued
to
happen,
because
I
see
that
you
actually,
when
the
legislation
was
not
bill?
Five,
you
actually
went
ahead
with
starting
to
plan
for
bill
five,
and
why
not?
This
contingency
plan
be
prepared
for
moving
forward
for
the
47
model,
because
I
doesn't
it
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
contradiction
to
me
what
seems
to
be
kind
of
along
the
same
line
through.
T
The
speaker,
the
clerk,
is
required
to
follow
the
Municipal
Elections
Act.
So
when
the
provincial
government
suggested
and
introduced
changes
to
the
Municipal
Act,
the
clerk
is
required
to
prepare
for
those
in
order
to
administer
that
on
October
22nd
I
can't
emphasize
strongly
enough
the
extraordinary
firts
we
had
to
go
through
in
order
to
during
an
election
period
after
we
had
certified
our
candidates
and
nominations
had
closed
to
develop
a
contingency
plan
that
still
gave
us
confidence
that
we
could
administer
the
election
on
October
22nd
with
integrity.
T
L
Question
about
the
waters
list,
you
know
I
hear
that
the
list
is
going
to
be
available
for
on
September
17th,
that
is
about
13
days
after
when
candidates
were
originally
promised.
Now
Canada's
are
going
to
have
the
list
that
is
almost
double
the
size
in
some
cases
triple
the
size
with
ten
less
days
to
prepare.
Do
you
think
that
would
consider
to
a
fair
election
for
candidates
who
are
getting
this
massive
list
with
about
three
weeks
before
advance
poll.
S
L
L
S
L
S
O
O
O
O
N
R
A
I
O
O
O
O
N
I
A
I
N
G
You
first
maybe
I'll,
follow
up
on
the
question
that
councilor
mammal,
Edie
and
Deana
seemed
so
excited
about
the
question
of
whether
or
not
we
conducted
sufficient
consultation
was
considered
by
counsel
by
the
Ontario
Municipal
Board
and
by
the
Superior
Court
of
Ontario
and
all
three
cases
they
found.
That
we
did
is
that
correct.
E
G
You
to
the
clerk
so
I'm
not
asking
the
question
that
councillor
Shan
was
asking
about
whether
or
not
it's
fair
I
just
want
to
understand.
Factually
the
advance.
Our
sorry,
the
voters
list
will
be
made
available
to
candidates
later
in
the
process
than
it
was
during
the
last
election.
Is
that
correct.
G
S
T
S
T
The
speaker
councilor
we're
currently
undertaking
a
detailed
analysis
of
our
capacity
to
conduct
advance
vote
and
we
haven't
quite
determined
what
that
might
look
like
we're
doing
our
best
so
that
we
don't
have
an
impact
on
advance
vote.
But
there
are
some
challenges
given
that
nominations
close
September
14th
at
T
p.m.
and
advance
vote
starts
on
October
6
in
our
current
scenario,
with
producing
ballots
in
time.
In.
T
S
T
P
To
the
city
clerk
madam
Clerk,
just
so
I
understand
when
we
last
discussed
this,
there
was
a
lot
of
concern
that
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
be
ready
for
the
election
and
I
believe
your
report
says
you
can
now
and
going
back
and
I
think
this
was
asked
earlier.
It
would
be
even
more
work
to
go
back
to
anything
other
than
the
25.
That
being
the
case
and
the
fact
that
the
province
really
held
an
election
using
those
board
boundaries.
S
Yes,
the
province
contacted
us
immediately
upon
the
introduction
and
and
discussed
with
us
when
the
timelines
high.
The
timelines
would
need
to
change
in
order
to
implement
the
legislation
and
they
helped.
They
then
drafted
the
regulations.
I
can't
say
enough
about
how
Elections
Ontario
stepped
forward
to
provide
us
with
the
revised
voters
list
for
25
wards.
They
also
provided
us
with
additional
assistance
on
the
voting
subdivisions
which
they
used
the
staffing
models
with
which
they
have
utilized
for
their
voting
places.
S
Am
pack
was
incredibly
proactive
in
providing
us
with
all
of
the
information
that
we
requested.
The
school
boards
provided
their
information
in
a
very
timely
manner.
Staff
in
the
city,
in
particular,
IT
and
others,
have
been
incredibly
supportive
and
our
own
election
services
staff,
as
ms
Murray
has
indicated,
have
worked
18-hour
days
plus,
since
this
has
happened
so.
P
S
P
P
P
Maybe
I'll
ask
that
camera
that
question
in
camera,
then,
with
respect
to
the
city
clerk,
madam
Clerk,
through
you
speaker,
you
have
given
us
an
overview
with
respect
of
the
challenges,
and
so
on
that
you
would
face
with
respect
to
a
twenty
five
electoral
system.
Obviously
you
would
face
challenge
with
respect
to
47.
Is
that
correct.
S
Yes,
as
Miss
Murray
has
explained,
the
difficulty
is
that
we
would
be
asked
to
move
backwards
and
forwards
at
the
same
time,
because
we
have
to
go
back
and
sort
out
the
electoral
geography
and
various
assigning
voters
into
their
proper
voting
stations,
which
would
have
to
be
reconfigured
and
re
permitted
and
re
inspected
for
accessibility.
And
then
we
would
have
to
move
forward
from
where
we
were
on
August
the
14th.
The
problem
is
all
of
electoral
processes
are
interdependent
and
it
is
not
possible
to
go
back
and
go
forward.
At
the
same
time,
fair.
P
E
Capacity
to
represent
is
one
of
the
components
of
the
Carter
test
right,
and
so
the
first
principle
is
voter
parody.
Is
your
vote
worth
the
same
as
an
elector?
In
another
word
boundary,
and
so
the
Supreme
Court
has
established
a
number
of
issues,
one
of
which
is
capacity
to
represent.
That
is
a
function
of
the
number
of
electors
per
ward
right
through.
P
You,
madam
speaking,
to
the
clerk
with
respect
to
the
number
of
electric
and
so
on,
so
looking
at
an
area
that
I
this
morning
actually
signed
to
run
in
Scarborough,
Center
I'll
be
about
a
hundred
and
twelve
thousand
people.
Six
hundred
give
or
take
I
wanted
to
understand
through
you
speaker.
How
will
the
mechanism
and
the
system
work
with
respect
to
twenty
five,
given
that
we
have
now
there's
about
sixty
sixty
five
thousand
people?
Will
the
staffing
component
be
the
same
and
who
will
make
those
particular
decisions?
P
P
M
Me
if
this
is
an
in-camera
question,
of
course,
to
the
I
guess
to
the
solicitor,
an
argument
that
might
be
used
on
the
other
side
is
that
these
boundaries
work
just
fine
for
federal
and
provincial.
Is
there
a
very
argument
to
be
made
that
we
are
fundamentally
different
because
we're
not
part
of
a
political
party
system?
Therefore
you
don't
have
have
any
platform
that
directs
you
how
to
consider
each
issue
you
each
counselor
has
to
look
at
literally
thousands
of
issues
each
year
and
make
an
independent
opinion
on
that.
T
The
speaker,
the
city
clerk,
executed,
a
data
sharing
agreement
with
the
chief
electoral
officer
of
Ontario
that
provided
us
some
data
and
information
on
a
25
Ward
basis
to
assist
us
in
our
contingency
plan.
Some
of
the
information
included,
for
example,
a
shape
file
that
they
would
use
at
a
25
geography
that
saved
us
about
four
days
of
work
from
creating
it
ourselves.
Did
you
get
the
same
information
447?
T
G
You
I
move
the
council
recess
its
public
session
to
meet
his
committee
of
the
whole
in
closed
session
to
consider
CC
45
point
one
legal
options
to
challenge
bill:
five:
the
better
Local
Government
Act.
Those
words
are
not
accurate,
2018
reason
for
confidential
information
litigation
or
potential
litigation
that
affects
the
City
of
Toronto
and
advice
or
communications
that
are
subject
to
solicit
or
client
privilege.
Okay,.
M
A
A
A
Okay,
this
meeting
is
now
resumed.
City
council
has
started
but
not
completed.
It's
closed
session.
Consideration
of
item
CC
45
point
one
headed
legal
options
to
challenge
bill
fight
the
better
Local
Government
Act
2018,
no
motions
were
made
in
closed
session.
We
will
not
recess
for
lunch
and
I
would
take
a
motion
to
resume
in
a
closed
session.
When
we
reconvene
at
2:00
p.m.
recess
to
two
o'clock,
our
favor.